{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/08/state-of-ireland", "section": "state-of-ireland", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "rron). He (Mr. Reynolds) had listened to the speech which the hon. Baronet had made, and he had the same fault to find. But he could not forget, and the House could not forget, that the right hon. Secretary for Ireland had informed them that thirteen Committees had sat on the affairs of Ireland. [Sir W. SOMERVILLE: Sixty-three.] He thanked his right hon. Friend for having multiplied it by eleven. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: More!", "preceding_text": "diency of the legislation which has occasioned it—still there is no man in this House who will deny that the condition, especially of the occupiers of land in the United Kingdom, is one of, I would say, almost unprecedented difficulty. Now, look at the main feature of the case. You have a diminution of rents, which, we are informed, may be taken on the average at the rate of probably 10 per cent. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Several Hon. MEMBERS: More!", "preceding_text": "s one of, I would say, almost unprecedented difficulty. Now, look at the main feature of the case. You have a diminution of rents, which, we are informed, may be taken on the average at the rate of probably 10 per cent. [An Hon. MEMBER: More!] I am told that it is more; but I wish to understate the case, and I say the diminution of rents in the United Kingdom averages at least 10 per cent. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: The lunatics.", "preceding_text": "n of the surplus of 1,900,000 l. being put down against the item of 1,500,000 l. the amount of the window tax. The hon. Gentleman also referred to the salaries of the poor-law officers, 550,000 l. in England, and 160,000 l. in England, making together 710,000 l. If those sums be added, they make 1,860,000 l., leaving but a very small margin for a balance. That is the Budget of the hon. Gentleman. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_text": "he pressure had not yet descended to the peasantry. But were there no signs of its doing so? He held in his hand the last report of one county, not the least important or entitled to consideration—he meant Lincolnshire. It was published that day, and was as follows:— Spalding:—The distress to which the agricultural interest is now exposed, aggravated in some districts by the blight of last season "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers from the Protectionists.", "preceding_text": "red in speaking of the condition of the tenant-farmer. There was, in particular, one question, in which he (Mr. Bright) had in former years taken great interest, but the advocacy of which he had been compelled to relinquish in consequence of his not having received that aid from the farmers which their private representations had induced him to expect. He alluded to the question of the game laws. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Question!\"", "preceding_text": "e, supposing them to be the true friends of the occupiers of the land, either to alter the game laws, which they certainly ought to do, or, if they would not do that, at least to alter their practices, and to discontinue that system which was abhorrent to the civilization of our day, and which, at all events, was most cruelly injurious to those whom hon. Gentlemen opposite professed to represent. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: Yes.", "preceding_text": "ute acres, and nineteen-twentieths of those 8,000,000 derived their support, such as it was, from agricultural pursuits. Let him also remind his hon. Friend the Member for Manchester that whilst the manufacturers had protection, the agricul- 94 turists had none. There was a protection on cotton and woollens, and more on silk. Would the manufacturers agree that that protection should be taken off? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "said it was not a tenth. Now let him appeal to the eminent manufacturers on the other side of the House, and ask them, if their respective protecting duties were repealed, what effect that would have upon their cotton mills? He believed that the manufacturers of America and of France would send in such vast quantities of manufactured goods, that the manufacturers of this country would be swamped. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Vehement cheers.", "preceding_text": "told to-morrow that the hon. Member for the city of Dublin voted with the hon. Member for Buckinghamshire, as a charge had been brought against him and some of his countrymen that they had recorded their votes 96 for a similar Motion on the 14th of last month. It had been said of them, it was said broadly, \"What an extraordinary set of fellows the Irish Liberal Members must be to do that!\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: Not all!", "preceding_text": "uents turned round and said, \"Why, you would not ask us to vote for protection—to raise the price of food to the poor man?\" Now that was not only a vindication of themselves, but it was an indirect censure upon those who took the other course, and therefore he complained of it. What happened? Meetings had been held in different localities—votes of censure had been passed upon some of the majority—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "oble Lord at 97 the head of the Government, and he wished he could still be able to afford him support, because he was free to confess that his (Mr. Reynolds's) political creed tallied more with that of the noble Lord than with that of any other leading Whig in. the House; and if the noble Lord had abode by his principles, which he could tell him he had not done, as he (Mr. Reynolds) abode by his—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " the Ministry. He could not help it; he had brought himself to this conclusion, that it mattered little to his country what man held the helm of affairs, provided only that the Minister directed his attention to the improvement of the condition of the people—whether it was the noble Lord who occupied the Treasury bench, or whether it was the right hon. Baronet the Member for Ripon (Sir J. Graham)—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": " upon foreign seeds was the single tax paid exclusively by the occupying tenant; but he could not persist in proposing its repeal, when that repeal was opposed by hon. Gentlemen professing to represent the agricultural interest. If the farmer should complain hereafter that he had to pay duty upon foreign seeds, let him remember that to the owners of land he owed it that this tax was not repealed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "ole consumption of provisions, and with such a state of things it was in vain to look for a rise of prices. Depend upon it, the discussions, such as they had had to-night, could not end there; for if they were determined not to do justice to the owners and occupiers of land, he trusted that a force still existed in the country which would wrest from them that justice which they would not concede. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Cheers", "preceding_text": "ed—if it is denied, we fail.\" Let it be a fair Motion, and not a delusive Motion, and, as becomes a great party in this country, let them put the issue fairly between us. MR. M. J. O'CONNELL would not follow the rule of action of the hon. Member for the city of Dublin, as he could not call it either policy or principle. The hon. Gentleman had, unblushingly, before an assembly of English Gentlemen—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/11/assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "section": "assessed-taxes-act-agricultural-distress", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "policy of the Government. He had once stepped in on behalf of a deeply suffering and injured class, the miners of Cornwall; but he would never join in any factious opposition, nor approve of combinations of Members representing extreme opinions, for he knew that such junctions were not calculated to confer a lasting benefit on any cause in which they occurred. They had still a surplus legislation—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/14/st-albans-election", "section": "st-albans-election", "cue_text": "Sir R. H. INGLIS: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "e Report, they would at once reintroduce all the evils with reference to deciding controverted elections which the Grenville Act , and, still more, the Act under which these Committees were appointed, were designed to remedy. Suppose that the Committee had decided otherwise, and declared the election to be null and void, would the hon. Baronet propose that a writ he not issued for a new election? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/14/st-albans-election-1", "section": "st-albans-election-1", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: No; he is not.", "preceding_text": " to produce the witness and paying the costs of the Motion. Why should they here at once discharge Edwards, who had been guilty of this great contempt, interfering with the privileges of that House, and acknowledging the object he had in view of stifling a most important inquiry? He confessed he was not disposed at present to discharge Edwards at all. Edwards, he believed, was a professional man. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/14/st-albans-election-1", "section": "st-albans-election-1", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: No, no!", "preceding_text": "tion, it would be a different thing, the House might then extend its lenity to him. The ATTORNEY GENERAL thought that the House ought not to commit Edwards to Newgate upon ex parte evidence taken before the Committee, or at all events without his being present, or having an opportunity afforded him of cross-examining the witnesses. This man had presented a petition praying to be heard at the bar. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/apr/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/apr/14/coffee-and-timber-duties-acts", "section": "coffee-and-timber-duties-acts", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear !\"", "preceding_text": "or of the Exchequer might say it was attributable to an increase of low-duty coffee and to a decrease of high-duty coffee, he could not deny that, since 1847, there had been a diminution of 6,000,000lbs., and that every year there had been a decrease in the deliveries of consumption. That decrease was not owing to any want of power to consume it, for the country was in a state of great prosperity—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/feb/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/feb/21/st-andrews-church-marylebone", "section": "st-andrews-church-marylebone", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "as to the state of discipline in the Established Church. It is necessary for me before I put the question to state the circumstances of the case to the House, which I shall do in as few sentences as I possibly can. I will confine myself exclusively to the facts of the case, and shall refrain from making any comment upon them, or offering any observations to the House which may lead to discussion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/feb/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/feb/21/the-hungarian-refugees", "section": "the-hungarian-refugees", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "y 1851 → Commons Sitting THE HUNGARIAN REFUGEES. HC Deb 21 February 1851 vol 114 cc885-6 885 § LORD D. STUART said, he was sorry to be the means of postponing for a few moments that financial question which was the legitimate subject of discussion that evening. The House would see that he had been compelled to take that course by the neglect of duty of other persons, and not of himself. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jul/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jul/04/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "from that in which the Bill had been brought forward by Her Majesty's Government. He did not say this because he believed that the proposals of his hon. and learned Friend would materially alter the character of the Bill; but it was evident, from the latter part of the speech of his hon. and learned Friend, that, in his opinion, Parliament had gone too far in assenting to the Relief Bill of 1829. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jul/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jul/04/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": " that this country had been long in the enjoyment of civil and religious liberty; and that I do not believe that it would be possible in this country to interrupt that long usage, and to violate the sanctity of conscience, or to prevent the public worship and exercise of all the rites of religion according to the opinions and faith of various classes of Christians who may be established among us. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1851/jul/25", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1851/jul/25/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "The LORD CHANCELLOR: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "ernment to allow no alteration in the Bill, in order not to admit of its again being discussed in the other House. This involved an utter abdication not only of the functions of Government, but of legislation. Was it becoming for such a reason to permit such an important Bill to pass into law with words in it of which the Go- 1527 vernment disapproved? It was said that the words were unimportant. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "was on the part of the Roman Catholic Government; and by all the members of that creed it had been determined, as they had avowed, that the Protestants, from the state of heathenism in which they said they were, must be brought to yield a submission to them. They had chosen a hundred and a hundred times in the House to throw back in the teeth of those who supported the Bill, the word \"aggresion.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Oh, oh!\" and \"Question!\" \"Prove it!\"", "preceding_text": "se who supported the Bill, the word \"aggresion.\" [ Cries of \"Oh, oh!\"] There was a different question before the Committee, else he would prove it. But when the hon. Gentleman appealed to them, when he said \"you cannot accuse our loyalty,\" he replied he knew their loyalty, that it was one and undivided to the Pope of Rome, \"and,\" they added, \"perish the thrones of kings and queens!\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no! \"", "preceding_text": " But when the hon. Gentleman appealed to them, when he said \"you cannot accuse our loyalty,\" he replied he knew their loyalty, that it was one and undivided to the Pope of Rome, \"and,\" they added, \"perish the thrones of kings and queens!\" [ Loud cries of \"Oh, oh!\" and \"Question!\" \"Prove it!\"] The declaration had been made and published, and he then held it in his hand. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Laughter, and cries of \"Read, read!\"", "preceding_text": "e our loyalty,\" he replied he knew their loyalty, that it was one and undivided to the Pope of Rome, \"and,\" they added, \"perish the thrones of kings and queens!\" [ Loud cries of \"Oh, oh!\" and \"Question!\" \"Prove it!\"] The declaration had been made and published, and he then held it in his hand. [ Cries of \"No, no! \"] No, no! there were so many pio no-nos . "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Oh, oh!\" and cries of \"Read!\"", "preceding_text": ",\" they added, \"perish the thrones of kings and queens!\" [ Loud cries of \"Oh, oh!\" and \"Question!\" \"Prove it!\"] The declaration had been made and published, and he then held it in his hand. [ Cries of \"No, no! \"] No, no! there were so many pio no-nos . [ Laughter, and cries of \"Read, read!\"] He would take another opportunity to prove his assertion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Hear, hear!\" and loud laughter .", "preceding_text": "ed, and he then held it in his hand. [ Cries of \"No, no! \"] No, no! there were so many pio no-nos . [ Laughter, and cries of \"Read, read!\"] He would take another opportunity to prove his assertion. [Oh, oh!\" and cries of \"Read!\"] The hon. Gentleman then read—\"We respect the authority of the Vicar of Christ infinitely more than we do any musty Act of Parliament.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " Christ infinitely more than we do any musty Act of Parliament.\" [Hear, hear!\" and loud laughter .] Wait a little; I spoke of your loyalty. Is divided allegiance nothing? The hon. Gentleman continued to read: \"We consider our allegiance due to the Roman Throne first of all.\" [\"Oh!\"] You see that, now; \"And second to that, and in an infinitely lower sense, to mere civil governments.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "sider our allegiance due to the Roman Throne first of all.\" [\"Oh!\"] You see that, now; \"And second to that, and in an infinitely lower sense, to mere civil governments.\" [ Loud cries of \"Hear, hear!\"] But hear what follows: \"We owe our loyalty to the holy Roman See; and perish 1038 the thrones of kings and queens of earth rather than that shall be in the slightest degree tarnished.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Hear, hear!\" and much noise and confusion .", "preceding_text": "overnments.\" [ Loud cries of \"Hear, hear!\"] But hear what follows: \"We owe our loyalty to the holy Roman See; and perish 1038 the thrones of kings and queens of earth rather than that shall be in the slightest degree tarnished.\" [ Loud cries of \"Hear, hear!\"] \"As the spiritual power infinitely exceeds the temporal, so does our loyalty to the Holy See that which we owe to the Queen.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Order!\" in the midst of which the Chairman also called the hon. Member to order", "preceding_text": "ne, believed, as he quoted them, to have been sentiments expressed by some hon. Members of this House, or by some Catholic authority. I now find that he quotes from a newspaper which I, for one, never before heard of. I think it anything but fair and just—and, if the rules of the House permitted it, I would say it was anything but honourable —in the hon. Gentleman to make use of these quotations— "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Chair, chair!\"", "preceding_text": "ty. I now find that he quotes from a newspaper which I, for one, never before heard of. I think it anything but fair and just—and, if the rules of the House permitted it, I would say it was anything but honourable —in the hon. Gentleman to make use of these quotations— [ Loud cries of \"Order!\" in the midst of which the Chairman also called the hon. Member to order]. I will not be put down. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\" and cheers", "preceding_text": "of his opinion. I now beg to inform the noble Lord, as well as the hon. Member for West Surrey, that I have not used any expression that I do not hold by. I believe that I have used no expression in contravention of the orders of this House. If I have done so, I am as ready as any man in 1040 this House to apologise for it; but I cannot permit the hon. Member for West Surrey, or any other Member— "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Chair!\" and \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " not used any expression that I do not hold by. I believe that I have used no expression in contravention of the orders of this House. If I have done so, I am as ready as any man in 1040 this House to apologise for it; but I cannot permit the hon. Member for West Surrey, or any other Member— [ Cries of \"Order!\" and cheers ]—to use such expressions without standing up to protest against it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Chair!\"", "preceding_text": "ed no expression in contravention of the orders of this House. If I have done so, I am as ready as any man in 1040 this House to apologise for it; but I cannot permit the hon. Member for West Surrey, or any other Member— [ Cries of \"Order!\" and cheers ]—to use such expressions without standing up to protest against it. [ Cries of \"Chair!\" and \"Order!\"] I will not be put down. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "ber for Galway rose, I considered that he was rising on the point of order; but I did not immediately collect from the speech of the hon. Gentleman on what point he complained of the hon. Member for West Surrey. § MR. O'FLAHERTY I now complain of the hon. Member for West Surrey for quoting in such a manner as to lead to the conclusion that he was quoting expressions of Members of this House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers .", "preceding_text": "o consider the question; and his Grace was invited, as their natural representative, to sanction the intended meeting by consenting to preside at it. It was thought that if only twenty gentlemen signed this document there would be no difficulty in inducing the distinguished nobleman to whom it was addressed to accede to the requisition; but not half that number were induced to append their names. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Ironical cheering from the Roman Catholic Members .", "preceding_text": "lic meetings and in the press, than to approve of the movement which had taken place, and of which, on the contrary, they highly disap- 1045 proved. That was a matter of notoriety amongst Roman Catholics, and he was in a condition to produce evidence of its truth. He thought that a strong case had been made out for legislation, and for very stringent legislation, in the sense of the first clause. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "rting their allegiance, namely, to sacrifice their blood and their property in the vindication of their honour. Let no man, therefore, impeach him (Mr. Reynolds) with a divided allegiance. The Catholics of England and Ireland, in the event of the Pope being able to do that which he was not now able to do, even if he were disposed, namely to invade this kingdom, would meet him in the battle field. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/jun/20", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/jun/20/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Loud, cries of \"Divide, divide!\"", "preceding_text": " public occasion. I have sometimes met Dr. Murray at dinner, and I have always asked him to go out before me, and thought it a very proper piece of eivility so to do; but that might be construed into a public occasion, or said to be a piece of state ceremonial, and a jury might be asked to convict him (Lord John Russell) under this clause. I must, therefore, oppose the bringing up of this clause. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/07/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "d to the proceeding. After four months, during which the people had spoken, and the Queen had answered, after 395 Members of that House declared that some effectual measure must pass, Her Majesty's Government had dropped the whole substance of their Bill, had reduced it to this miserable shadow, and had thereby declared before the country and Europe, they were, in fact, impotent to meet the evil. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/25/rank-of-church-dignitaries-in-the", "section": "rank-of-church-dignitaries-in-the", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Question!\"", "preceding_text": " being held that he was not only Bishop of Sydney, but also Metropolitan. In reference to this arrangement, the bishop replied that, however gratifying it might be to himself personally, it left untouched the main question, namely, of the right of another potentate, not the Sovereign of this country, to give by his authority a situation to which precedence was attached in Her Majesty's dominions. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/25/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "The hon. Member read several extracts from this address.", "preceding_text": " had received 271,943 signatures. Considering the proportion of Protestants and Catholics, it could not be inferred from this there was a very strong national feeling on the subject of the aggression. It was painful to him to contrast the language used by bishops of his own Church with the temperate address of the Roman Catholic bishops of Ireland to their flocks upon the subject of this measure. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/25/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "n broken, nothing in my opinion could be more disparaging than for the Government to make, or this House to entertain, a proposal to proceed upon that breach of the law of nations only by an Act of Parliament imposing penalties on certain of the Queen's subjects. And the letter of the noble Lord to the Bishop of Durham was a letter which I am certain he would have demeaned himself to have written—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/25/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Lord J. RUSSELL: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "oing perhaps to pass, will really be? As my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Abingdon said, both the law officers of the Crown laid it down that the Bill originally was intended to prevent \"synodal action;\" but I understood the hon. and learned Attorney General to say that the Bill does not, or rather in its proposed form (that is, in its proposed clauses) will not prevent \"synodal action.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/25/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Ironical cries of \"Hear!\"", "preceding_text": "actment. The Bill is directed against \"the assumption of territorial titles;\" but does it prohibit them? If it prohibited all such titles, I could understand you when you said you were defending the \"territorial rights\" of the Crown. But you prohibit episcopal, not territorial titles. Are there no others who \"divide the country into districts\" besides episcopal bodies? The Wesleyans, for instance—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/25/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "I know the meaning of that cheer, and I will deal with it by and by; but I think it is convenient to take one point at a time, and I am upon the point of territorial titles. I say, then, you do not prevent territorital titles; for not only the Wesleyans with their \"circuits,\" but the Presbyterians with their \"synods,\" have \"titles\" as strictly \"territorial\" as the Roman Catholic or Scotch bishops—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/25/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "\"Hear!\" and \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "h constitute the Government and the Opposition. We, the opponents of the Bill, are a minority, insignificant in point of numbers. We are more insignificant, because we have no ordinary bond of union. What is it that binds us together against you but the conviction that we have on our side the principle of justice—the conviction that we 597 shall soon have on our side the course of public opinion? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/25/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "turning to the interruptor", "preceding_text": "ments. I wonder whether that was the motive which animated Lord Stanley—he was then the companion of the right hon. Gentleman; they stand together in their chivalry, but neither the House nor the country was in the secret, nor believed that the opposition was founded on—[\" Question, question!\"] I am speaking to the question; this subject has been introduced by the right bon. Gentleman, and "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/28/supply-army-estimates", "section": "supply-army-estimates", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\" and \"Divide, divide!\"", "preceding_text": " show some necessity for it. It had not, however, been done by the right hon. the Secretary at War. The right hon. Gentleman had referred to the year 1839; but he (Mr. Williams) could 762 tell him that the cost of the Army, Navy, and Ordnance, or, as they were generally termed, cavalry, infantry, and artillery, marines and sailors alone, had been 3,076,000 l. more than the estimates of this year. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/mar/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/mar/28/supply-army-estimates", "section": "supply-army-estimates", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "approaching, and although they might have money in hand for the present year, that money, very properly, could not be applied to the expenditure of the ensuing year. He hoped his hon. Friend would now allow the Votes to be taken. § MR. W. WILLIAMS said, he wished to show the injustice of several of the items, and especially with regard to the differences of rank. He wished to go into detail. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/may/16/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "e disturbed any longer by paltry legislation. The present Bill was the commencement of a course of war in Ireland. If the Amendment of the hon. and learned Member for Midhurst (Mr. Walpole), was carried, no Roman Catholic priest could exist in Ireland. Roman Catholic ecclesiastics could only exist, in the first instance, by the authority of the Pope, and that authority was denied in the preamble. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/may/16/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "An Hon. Member: Yes.", "preceding_text": "holic priest could exist in Ireland. Roman Catholic ecclesiastics could only exist, in the first instance, by the authority of the Pope, and that authority was denied in the preamble. [ Cries of \"Order!\"] There was no order in his country. The proposition now was, whether the preamble be postponed. [\"No, no!\"] Yes, it was. He wished to know whether the preamble was withdrawn or not? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/may/16/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: Nothing.", "preceding_text": "e first instance, by the authority of the Pope, and that authority was denied in the preamble. [ Cries of \"Order!\"] There was no order in his country. The proposition now was, whether the preamble be postponed. [\"No, no!\"] Yes, it was. He wished to know whether the preamble was withdrawn or not? [An Hon. Member: Yes.] Then, if the Motion was withdrawn, what were they now discussing? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1851/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1851/may/16/ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "section": "ecclesiastical-titles-assumption-bill", "cue_text": "Loud laughter.", "preceding_text": "is, In the north every man who asked for his rent was shot, while the south was a desert. A man had lately ridden twenty miles in Ireland without meeting a human being. Talk of bullies! the bullies were the men who had kept down his country with 40,000 armed men. They had driven the people to the grave or to America, but they should remember Saratoga, General Cornwallis, and Lord Burgoyne. "}