{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/03", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/03/bill-27-second-reading", "section": "bill-27-second-reading", "cue_text": "Mr. WALPOLE: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "n the back of the Bill, had disclaimed in the fullest manner its compulsory character, though the hon. Gentleman the Member for the Tower Hamlets had not done so, and had the Bill been framed on the suggestions which he (Mr. Bruce) made when the Finsbury Estate Bill was before the House, he and his right hon. Friend the Home Secretary, and his right hon. Friend the Judge Advocate have opposed it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/motion-for-adjournment", "section": "motion-for-adjournment", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "to me, and as \"a sincere Reformer,\" speaking to a recent convert, I trust that I shall be listened to. I wish to ask the right hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has commissioned the Secretary for the Treasury and the hon. and gallant Member for the county of Dublin to enter into any arrangement with one or two Members on this side of the House professing peculiar opinions. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/motion-for-adjournment", "section": "motion-for-adjournment", "cue_text": "Some hon. MEMBERS: Why not?", "preceding_text": "d just been perusing. I looked at it, and read it twice over. As I have before informed the House, all I said at the time was:—\"I hope that you will not be satisfied with such a document.\" That is the history of my becoming acquainted with the document. And now, in answer to the question of the noble Lord, I have to remark, that it was not necessarily my duty to bring the matter before the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ter my protest. I have heard many things said in this House, many strange things have occurred, and not among the least strange is this of to-night. But, Sir, I am bound to say that, as far as I myself am concerned, I claim the right to have an opinion, and also the right to express that opinion. In making that statement I do not mean to dictate to anybody. And though I may be called a \"mushroom\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Mr. GLADSTONE: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "n in this Bill, the compound-householder may send to the overseer and say, \"I wish to be rated in future; make me responsible for the rate.\" If he, the tenant, does this, the result will be that, instead of paying 15 s. to the landlord, he will pay 20 s. to the State, deducting 15 s. from the landlord. But then comes the right hon. Gentleman the Member for South Lancashire, who calls that a fine. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ne to make, and impossible for any one to answer. It appears to me that the matter is a very simple one. I will not go any further into detail; but before I close, Sir, I will say that observations are made very often on conduct like mine by Gentlemen who have suddenly started up in the character of Reformers. Now, what possible interest have I in the matter? Why, this—the interest of my country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": " this question. Would the House, with its eyes open, pass a Bill which, in common with the Member for Derby, he knew, instead of staying the agitation, would only provoke it? He did not for a moment believe that the House would consent to it. He felt that he was under a grave responsibility, not only as a Member of the House, but because he had had something to do with the agitation out of doors. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "e fine, it only existed in the imagination of the right hon. Gentleman, and those who thought him infallible in matters of rating. Practical men would tell hon. Gentlemen opposite that as soon as the occupier was rated and was liable to pay rates in respect of his house he would go to his landlord, would arrange upon new terms as to rent, and would pay a rate for the future like any other person. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "ith the transactions between landlord and tenant in England as the right hon. Gentleman, and he must remember that this was an English Bill. When they came to the discussion of the Irish Bill no doubt the right hon. Gentleman would give them the benefit of his information. It was said that the compound-householder did not now pay the full rate. He (Mr. Hunt) thought he did—he paid it in his rent. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": " question settled during the existing Session—and yet who opposed the Government Bill. But he must now turn to another class of speakers, to some Gentlemen who—he could hardly say that they advocated the scheme of the right hon. Gentleman, but who expressed their intention of voting forit. Their course he could easily understand. Foremost among them was his noble Friend the Member for Cranbourne. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Mr. GLADSTONE: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "in the same object, that the trouble and expense will be fifty times as great. Mr. Dodson, I have troubled the Committee at some length. I believe the Bill to contain within it the materials for a permanent arrangement of this question. The right hon. Gentleman opposite from the very beginning has wished to get rid of that which we wish to retain. We say that the rate book should be the register. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "btaining notoriety is to thrust themselves before the public as agitators. These men still continue to exist. It is not on those who seek to lead the poor and ignorant astray that we must look; but we must rely upon the firmness and good sense of those who go to the constituencies. We must not look to those who go to constituencies outbidding each other as to what they will do on these questions. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: He does not abound with it!", "preceding_text": " this House were desirous that we should retain it, we, of all other men, may receive that imputation, not, indeed, with the scorn with which the right hon. Gentleman the President of the Poor Law Board abounds. [\"No!\"] Are Gentlemen aware that I am quoting the expression of the right hon. Gentleman himself? Not, indeed, I say with the scorn with which the President of the Poor Law Board abounds. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/apr/12/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " settlement by drawing the line among persons of the same class, by giving one man the franchise and refusing it to another, 1695 though the social position of the two may be exactly the same, and the only difference between them that arising from the fact that one lives at the side of a street in which the Small Tenements Act is in operation, and the other on a side where it is not in operation. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/aug/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/aug/15/bill-273-committee", "section": "bill-273-committee", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "ng to Parliamentary usage, express my conviction that the Bill ought not to be proceeded with at this period of the Session, I would have adopted it; but I am assured that I cannot now move the Previous Question, and that this is the only course open to me. I must express my disappointment that the Government have not withdrawn this Bill in deference 1572 to what I believe is the general feeling. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/aug/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/aug/15/bill-273-committee", "section": "bill-273-committee", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "icials. Is was a justification for using all the forms of the House to defeat the measure, that although he and his friends were a minority in the House, they really represented the great community out of doors. He had had the curiosity to 1588 take the fourteen Members who spoke against the Bill on Tuesday, and he placed opposite their names the population in 1861 of the places they represented. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/feb/15/address-for-papers", "section": "address-for-papers", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: How?", "preceding_text": "y feeling of Turkey, who had freely opened her coasting trade to Greece, and had placed Greek subjects on the same footing as her own. They had said that the revenues of Greece had increased from £200,000 to £900,000. Well, but if Greece had obtained such an enormous increase of revenue, why had she not paid what she owed to other nations? Had Turkey acted in that way? Had she not paid her debts? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/feb/15/address-for-papers", "section": "address-for-papers", "cue_text": "Mr. GREGORY: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "the descendants of the ancient Christian proprietors, who had changed their religion at the time of the conquest—men whose land-rolls and pedigrees went, perhaps, further back than those of any families in this country—they went back beyond the Middle Ages. Well, were they not just as much entitled to their lands as Christian people? But his hon. Friend would say, \"Nobody wants to turn them out.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/jul/03", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/jul/03/bill-127-second-reading", "section": "bill-127-second-reading", "cue_text": "Sir COLMAN O'LOGHLEN said, he proposed to withdraw that portion of the Bill.", "preceding_text": "y assented to the second reading. It might be either a very small or a very large measure; but it was one to which, if taken in its fullest scope, he thought it would be hardly wise in the House to assent, There were three main provisions in the Bill. It proposed, first, to provide for the granting of leases; and secondly, the making of grants in perpetuity; and thirdly, to give borrowing powers. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/jul/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/jul/09/committee-progress-july-8", "section": "committee-progress-july-8", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "e to re-print every Bill; and on a measure of this importance he wished to suggest that there should at the same time be printed the Bill as it was originally introduced, so as to show the various omissions, erasures, additions, and alterations that had taken place; — that they might see how much of the Bill was the original proposition of the Government, and how much had been added by the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/jul/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/jul/09/taxation-ireland-resolution", "section": "taxation-ireland-resolution", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "to inquire on what day the ceremony would be performed, in order that he might make a journey over to Ireland to witness it. He would give another instance—in the South of Ireland the people showed the greatest possible desire to receive an education beyond that given by the parish priests. On one occasion the priest told a man that if he would insist upon sending his child to a Protestant school—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/jul/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/jul/18/supply-civil-service-estimates", "section": "supply-civil-service-estimates", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Kensington.", "preceding_text": "d be effected. The hon. and learned Gentleman says that there are a great many Palaces which might be placed at the disposal of illustrious guests; but if he examines the subject and considers the various Palaces which Her Majesty possesses, he would find that though there are some fine Royal Palaces in England, yet if a foreign Sovereign becomes the guest of Her Majesty he wants to be in London. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/mar/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/mar/28/mutiny-bill-committee", "section": "mutiny-bill-committee", "cue_text": "The MARQUESS of HARTINGTON: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "ld find that the mode in which this Bill had been introduced in the present year was exactly in accordance with the practice of former years. The noble Lord opposite, who held the same position in the late Government, would confirm him when he said that the Mutiny Bill was not treated like other Bills, only because, year after year, it was, with some slight alterations, essentially the same Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/mar/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/mar/28/mutiny-bill-committee", "section": "mutiny-bill-committee", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: What were his offences?", "preceding_text": "d of October, 1865, he was again sentenced to fifty lashes and 252 days' hard labour, with stoppage, the whole of which was carried out. So that this man in less than three years comes before five courts martial, is four times sentenced to be flogged, and actually undergoing it thrice, and is condemned to 982 days' hard labour, of which 766 are carried out, he being the whole time under stoppage. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/mar/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/mar/28/mutiny-bill-committee", "section": "mutiny-bill-committee", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Is this to apply in time of peace?", "preceding_text": "e been taken to the wording of the clause, it has been drawn up by the legal adviser to the War Office, and I see no reason to alter it, with the exception of that part which refers to men \"on board a ship,\" which should read \"on board a ship not in commission.\" When men are shut up on board a transport it is impossible to subject them to the ordinary punishments that can be administered on land. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/may/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/may/28/committee-progress-may-27", "section": "committee-progress-may-27", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Hear!\" and \"No!\"", "preceding_text": " induced the House to come down to household suffrage was the hope of—to use a popular phrase — finding bottom; something to stand upon; something that everybody knew and could recognise. But in truth the bottom that you stand on at present—that, at least, you profess to have found—is as uncertain and shifting as a sandbank. The suffrage now depends upon the goodwill and pleasure of the overseer. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/may/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/may/28/committee-progress-may-27", "section": "committee-progress-may-27", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: 1858.", "preceding_text": "d his opinions have changed with circumstances. The hon. Gentleman tells us that in 1853 he proposed — where he proposed it I know not; certainly not in this House—a measure of Parliamentary Reform similar to that now under the consideration of the House—as far as the borough franchise is concerned—and that it was not very well received by this side of the House. But 1853 is a long time 1223 ago. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/may/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/may/28/committee-progress-may-27", "section": "committee-progress-may-27", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\" from the Opposition.", "preceding_text": "t 1853 is a long time 1223 ago. [An hon. MEMBER: 1858.] It is a long time since 1858. If the hon. Gentleman has found it necessary to change his opinions on this important subject in three months, I think he might have charitably presumed that hon. Gentlemen on this side of the House would change their opinions after ten years—if, indeed, he can prove that their opinions have been changed at all. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/may/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/may/28/committee-progress-may-27", "section": "committee-progress-may-27", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: No!", "preceding_text": "xxviii. 1701.] The right hon. Gentleman thus declared that his opinion had been—and after a short lapse from virtue in the summer of 1859, under peculiar circumstances, it had returned to be—that any modification of 1228 the £10 franchise, in the nature of a reduction of it, was inadmissible. The right hon. Gentleman says now he stands upon the principle of rating, but does not the £10 franchise? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/may/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/may/29/bill-68-second-reading", "section": "bill-68-second-reading", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "e House in so many words that he was opposed to dealing with the question in a general measure, because the House would then see the whole question, and would be able to deal with it on those principles which are confessed to be necessary, but are not yet ready to be carried into effect. The right hon. Gentleman the Member for South Lancashire (Mr. Gladstone) spoke in a more statesmanlike manner. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1867/may/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1867/may/31/observations", "section": "observations", "cue_text": "Mr. CHICHESTER FORTESCUE: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "ely, by a Court of Law. They would feel it their duty not to take any action until the decision of a legal tribunal had been finally pronounced. The course taken by the former Government was attended with unfortunate results. The present Government believed they would have acted contrary to their duty had they taken any step without having submitted the subject to the consideration of Parliament. "}