{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/apr/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/apr/08/criminal-law-independence-of-juries", "section": "criminal-law-independence-of-juries", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "CRIMINAL LAW—INDEPENDENCE OF JURIES.—QUESTION. (Hansard, 8 April 1875) Search Help HANSARD 1803–2005 → 1870s → 1875 → April 1875 → 8 April 1875 → Commons Sitting CRIMINAL LAW—INDEPENDENCE OF JURIES.—QUESTION. HC Deb 08 April 1875 vol 223 cc493-5 493 § MR. WHALLEY As the hon. Member for Stoke (Dr. Kenealy)—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/apr/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/apr/08/criminal-law-independence-of-juries", "section": "criminal-law-independence-of-juries", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Read, read.\"", "preceding_text": "—INDEPENDENCE OF JURIES.—QUESTION. HC Deb 08 April 1875 vol 223 cc493-5 493 § MR. WHALLEY As the hon. Member for Stoke (Dr. Kenealy)—[ Laughter ]—perhaps I may be permitted to explain that on a former occasion, when I intended to put this Question, also in his absence, I found myself on being called upon to read it not equal to the task; and I therefore postponed the Question until this day. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/apr/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/apr/08/criminal-law-independence-of-juries", "section": "criminal-law-independence-of-juries", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Read\" and \"Order.\"", "preceding_text": "to explain that on a former occasion, when I intended to put this Question, also in his absence, I found myself on being called upon to read it not equal to the task; and I therefore postponed the Question until this day. [ Cries of \"Read, read.\"] § MR. SPEAKER Does the hon. Gentleman propose to put the Question? § MR. WHALLEY I do so; but perhaps I may be allowed a word of explanation. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/05/supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "section": "supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ent assault, and for a common assault. The jury arrived at what seemed to him a very lenient view of the colonel's conduct in acquitting him of the intent. Any person who had at all devoted any portion of his time to a consideration of the evidence given by Miss Dickinson must be satisfied that this colonel had undoubtedly in his mind at the time he assaulted her an attempt to violate her person. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/05/supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "section": "supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "cue_text": "The hon. Member proceeded to read, amid the marked impatience of the House, the evidence of Miss Dickinson.", "preceding_text": "e under the actual purview of the law with reference to the crime, he was as guilty as if he had effected his purpose. The description which the lady gave of the transaction was calculated to excite a feeling of the highest indignation, and that indignation would be increased by the sentence, which was really no punishment at all for one of the most scandalous and atrocious crimes ever committed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/05/supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "section": "supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "cue_text": "Mr. SPEAKER: Order, order.", "preceding_text": "shment at all for one of the most scandalous and atrocious crimes ever committed. [The hon. Member proceeded to read, amid the marked impatience of the House, the evidence of Miss Dickinson.] He must appeal to the Speaker. It was impossible for him to proceed in the execution of what he considered his duty while Gentlemen on all sides were interrupting him. Was he to be heard in his place or not? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/05/supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "section": "supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "cue_text": "Dr. KENEALY: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "moment two instances of a similar sentence having been pronounced. I shall now trouble the House by referring to only one, and I shall select that case because I think it is of a character that will commend itself to the consideration of the hon. Member for Stoke. In the year 1850 a gentleman was arraigned before the Court of Queen's Bench, charged with an offence of a somewhat similar character. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/05/supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "section": "supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "s a man of fashionable or aristocratic connections. I have had no means of judging whether Colonel Baker was a man of fashion—I never saw him before the other day when he was in Court; but, as regards aristocratic connections, neither of the parties in this regrettable affair is connected, I think, with what are conventionally called the upper classes. As to the heroine of this unpleasant romance—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/05/supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "section": "supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "cue_text": "\"Order.\" \"Chair.\"", "preceding_text": " person who is attacked to make his defence. I must first of all call the attention of the hon. Gentleman to the extreme inconvenience of the precedent he is endeavouring to form—namely, that the private incidents and events in the lives of Members of this House should be brought forward here on account of their performing a public duty. I submit that is a very inconvenient precedent to lay down. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/05/supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "section": "supply-report-criminal-law-sentence-on", "cue_text": "A laugh .", "preceding_text": "a decrease in the revenue of the colony had unfortunately occurred; and further, the 572 death of some of the leading inhabitants and chieftains, on whom the Government had, in the main, depended for carrying out the measures connected with the annexation of the Island, had thrown additional burdens upon the Executive Government. He should add that this grant was to be repaid at some future time. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/07/third-reading", "section": "third-reading", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "cate the great principle of Sunday rest. As for the hon. and learned Member for South-wark (Mr. Locke), he recommended him to go to the Continent, where there was little observance of the Sunday. In this country the working classes were of a different way of thinking from the working classes on the Continent, and they were of opinion that the day should not be given either to amusement or to work "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/aug/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/aug/07/third-reading", "section": "third-reading", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "re willing not to do that; and as to the views taken by the legal faculty of the case tried, the Judges in both the Courts said it was highly improper, or words to that effect, that proceedings should be taken under that Act. No one had spoken in favour of it; and, on the whole, instead of taking the course the Government were now adopting, he considered it would be much better to repeal the Act. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/feb/17/bill-18-second-reading", "section": "bill-18-second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "the laws of the country. With regard to the late Duke of Richmond, there was no friend in the world that he respected or admired more than him, and it was perfectly true that he did what he found was the custom of the country. There was no estate in Scotland that was managed better than the Duke of Richmond's; but the tenant-farmers in some parts would not take the game if it was offered to them. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/feb/17/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "as not only recommended, but was even made compulsory; the lady was entitled to ask the husband to marry her, and if he objected, she spat on her shoe and struck him in the face, which, although it might not have the effect of making him amorous, at any rate showed her disdain at his refusal. It was also clearly laid down in these words—\"Thou shalt not marry thy wife's sister while she is alive \"—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/jul/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/jul/01/the-queen-v-castro-question", "section": "the-queen-v-castro-question", "cue_text": "\"Order.\"", "preceding_text": "riable practice of the Home Office that documents sent there have to be registered and then become public property, and are never returned to the persons sending them. § MR. WHALLEY said, he was not aware that the right hon. Gentleman had answered the Question before. What he would ask the right hon. Gentleman was, whether he still persisted in refusing permission to inspect those documents? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/jul/13/motion-for-a-select-committee", "section": "motion-for-a-select-committee", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "a large military force there, all owing to the intriguing policy of the Jesuits. He merely asked for a Committee of this House to inquire into the question, and if granted he would lay such a body of evidence from all parts of England and Wales before it—evidence of half a million of people—in reference to recent legal proceedings—to that great national scandal—a scandal in the eyes of all Europe—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/jul/13/motion-for-a-select-committee", "section": "motion-for-a-select-committee", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "he was speaking upon a a Question altogether irrevelant to his Motion which he had placed upon the Paper. 1424 § MR. WHALLEY pleaded that the indulgence of the House had tempted him to digress. With regard to the Jesuits, he assured the House that he was not prejudging the case; and the question was whether they were to allow those \"pirates,\" those \"black pirates,\" to remain in this country.—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/jul/13/motion-for-a-select-committee", "section": "motion-for-a-select-committee", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "llow those \"pirates,\" those \"black pirates,\" to remain in this country.—[\"Order, order!\"] Those Jesuits were coming by hundreds, nay, more, by thousands, into this country and making it a basis for their operations; and Germany, sensible of it, had given the warning; but if ever there was an occasion more than another for the extirpation of those nests of hornets—those Jesuits—it was the present. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/mar/01/leave-first-reading", "section": "leave-first-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "State, and which is in actual opposition to the law of the State. Well, as long as any crime exists in Ireland which shows the prevalence of such a state of feeling on the part of any considerable section of the people, I, for one, confess I do not think it would be safe altogether to abandon this exceptional legislation. So much as to the necessity which exists for the continuation of this code. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/mar/01/leave-first-reading", "section": "leave-first-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "ation is a hopeless task for us to embark upon, or that the condition of Ireland has not greatly improved under its influence. From what I have said, I hope it will be seen that, in my opinion, this is no party question, and I believe that, with the same feeling, a large number of hon. Members on this side of the House will join me in giving the Government a most cordial support on this occasion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/mar/01/leave-first-reading", "section": "leave-first-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " clergy in Germany on letters and documents which he refused to produce—secret information, he went on to add, on which no English Minister would found a coercion law. That, however, was precisely what an English Minister was doing in the present instance—founding a Coercion Bill on the authority of the police and magistrates, some of whom in many parts of Ireland were totally unworthy of belief. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/05/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers .", "preceding_text": "o would do the right thing because it was right—if we had a statesman who would do the virtuous thing because it was virtuous, and not because it might affect prejudicially the pocket of the Chancellor of the Exchequer; if we had an old Irish Brehon sage here, how would he proceed? He would approach the question somewhat in this fashion. He would say—\"This whisky is the destruction of my people.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/05/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers .", "preceding_text": "r my people. Let it end. Sunday and Monday alike. Let it never appear in our sacred island again. Go, my officers, to the bonding warehouses, drag out the puncheons, the pipes, and the hogsheads of this poison; swill the streets of my cities with it; and as the very dogs lap it up and fall prostrate under its influence, let Irishmen learn what a foreign nation has provided for their destruction.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/05/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide, divide!\"", "preceding_text": "se that he stood there in a particular position. A Committee was appointed in 1868, of which he was a Member, and he would therefore ask hon. Gentlemen, more especially those who were not in the House at that time, to allow him to say a few words. No one was more anxious to put down intemperance than he was, and that, he believed, was the opinion of all right-thinking men, magistrates and others. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/05/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide, divide!\"", "preceding_text": "ow what evidence had been given for that assertion, and he most emphatically contradicted the statement. In his own City of Cork the consumption of ale and porter had increased to a very great extent of late years. He denied that whisky was the drink par excellence of the working classes in Ireland; whisky was more consumed by persons of sedentary habits belonging to a different class of society. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/05/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "sion, that he must hold himself free to take what course he thought proper. It had been shown that this was a perfectly practical measure, and the circumstances connected with it were very similar to those of Scotland. This was a case in which they could not go ahead of public opinion, as an hon. Member asserted. As he understood, Sunday closing was practically observed in Ireland some years ago. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/05/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "hops and clergymen had signed the Petitions; but what he wanted, if he could, to get at, was the feelings of the class whom this Bill would affect. It was of no use to tell him that large numbers signed the Petitions in favour of the Bill. Let him see who were the parties who signed them. He knew how those Petitions were got up. They were got up in certain offices. He knew how the thing was done. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/06/personal-explanation", "section": "personal-explanation", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "r than impute anything to the right hon. Baronet or bring myself into collision with him, I would plead some deficiency of recollection on my part; but what I would say is that it was not at the time \"palpably absurd\" that the Lord Chief Justice should make such a communication to the right hon. Baronet. It was not absurd then, because it was only a few weeks before that unhappy man, the Claimant—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/06/personal-explanation", "section": "personal-explanation", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "ic purposes; and if the House considers that I have erred in this matter, and that I was not justified in repeating what I had heard to the Claimant, I will at once throw myself on the indulgence of the House. Recognizing the force of the observations to which I have just adverted, I will merely say that the communication in question was not made to me in a gossiping form at all, but in a tone of—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1875/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1875/may/06/committee-progress-4th-may", "section": "committee-progress-4th-may", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "be the Preamble of the Bill. That Question raised all the general points embodied in the Bill; but the hon. Baronet appeared to be making a personal explanation instead of discussing the Bill. 194 § SIR EARDLEY WILMOT said, that what he was proposing to do was to show that Clause 5 of the Bill was not in accordance with his feelings, and he wished to tell the Committee why he objected to it. "}