{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "spirit that would give it any success whatever. The only objection that could be raised to men nominated in the way he had suggested was that they were of pretty decided political opinions; that they were Nationalists, and, in fact, strong political partisans. He must say candidly that he thought it would be no advantage to the people of Ireland if persons of a colourless character were selected. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "Laughter from the Irish Benches .", "preceding_text": "ad over-estimated the Catholic and under-estimated the Protestant population in Ireland. The County Fermanagh had been alluded to, and he thought his noble Friend (Viscount Crichton) would be able to answer for his noble Father, than whom there was no man more loved or respected in Ireland for the way in which he had spent his time, his money, and his intellect for the benefit of his native land, "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Who is he?", "preceding_text": "ointed the Lord Lieutenants? There had been Liberal Viceroys in Dublin for more than 34 years out of the last 50, and if there was any anxiety to have Liberal Lord Lieutenants in the counties those Viceroys had ample opportunity of appointing such; but yet all over Ulster there was only one Liberal Lord Lieutenant, and he would not have been appointed if it were not that he happened to be a Lord. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Name!\"", "preceding_text": "ers? The land gentry, who, of course, gave biassed representation to him. The result was that since Lord Gosford was appointed by a Liberal Lord Lieutenant no one Presbyterian or Catholic had been appointed to the Magistracy in the county. 1687 § MR. BERESFORD I rise to Order. The very last gentleman who was appointed to the Commission of the Peace, within the last month, was a Presbyterian. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "Mr. BIGGAR: Oh, oh!", "preceding_text": "rotestant; but in Ireland the case was different, as there the people instructed the magistrates. The question was a serious one, and he hoped it would be taken into serious consideration by the Government. If they wished the people to be law-abiding they should try and impress them with confidence in those who administered the law. He believed the Chief Secretary was willing to do what he could. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "Mr. BIGGAR: Oh, oh !", "preceding_text": "e taken into serious consideration by the Government. If they wished the people to be law-abiding they should try and impress them with confidence in those who administered the law. He believed the Chief Secretary was willing to do what he could. [Mr. BIGGAR: Oh, oh!] Hon. Members might jeer; but he might say for himself that he believed the Chief Secretary was willing to do what he could. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\" from the Irish Members .", "preceding_text": "igible to undertake magisterial duties, and he believed that nine were appointed in consequence. Nowhere in Ulster was there a larger number of Catholics as compared with Protestants amongst the population than in the county of Donegal; and nowhere was it more difficult—in fact, it was almost impossible—to find Roman Catholics who were both willing and able to discharge the duties of magistrates. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh!\" from the Irish Benches, and \"Very slow!\"", "preceding_text": "the Lords Lieutenant, or by conferring with them, and urging them very strongly to recommend particular individuals, no less than 61 magistrates. He could not help hoping that the Lord Chancellor was only at the beginning of his appointments, because, as he had said, the preliminary steps in these matters were very slow. [Mr. GIBSON: What are the figures?] 33 were members of the Church of England—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "Derisive cheers .", "preceding_text": " than 61 magistrates. He could not help hoping that the Lord Chancellor was only at the beginning of his appointments, because, as he had said, the preliminary steps in these matters were very slow. [Mr. GIBSON: What are the figures?] 33 were members of the Church of England—[ Cries of \"Oh, oh!\" from the Irish Benches, and \"Very slow!\"]—19 were Catholics, and six were Presbyterians. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "section": "ireland-constitution-of-the-magistracy", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: You have them already.", "preceding_text": "assment, to use the mildest possible word. If in any locality they were to take men who were strong partizans—not colourless in their politics—but men who held strong views in reference to the affairs in which they entered, in what position would they be landed? Why, in the South of Ireland they would have strong Land League magistrates, and in the North they would have strong Orange magistrates. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/committee-progress-3rd-4pril", "section": "committee-progress-3rd-4pril", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "and the result of accepting either of the Amendments might be that they would have one law for a Military Governor of a fortress and another law for a Civil or a Naval Governor. He had shown hon. Members that they could not do what they wanted by their Amendments; but, besides, it was surely not the business of English law to interfere with the jurisdiction of the commander of a foreign fortress. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/committee-progress-3rd-4pril", "section": "committee-progress-3rd-4pril", "cue_text": "Mr. PARNELL: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "ttee to adopt it, because it went oven beyond reference to military law. Let them take the case of a British officer, who became a Civil Governor in a foreign country. Supposing a person under his jurisdiction committed a murder, and he consented to the delinquent being hanged, that would be an offence against the Act. Did the hon. Member say that such an act as this should be held to be illegal? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/apr/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/apr/04/committee-progress-3rd-4pril", "section": "committee-progress-3rd-4pril", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "a Question on the matter having been put in the House a fortnight ago? § MR. CAMPBELL - BANNERMAN said, the noble Marquess the Secretary of State for War (the Marquess of Hartington) had referred to the fact that a question, had been immediately put to Admiral Hewett by telegraph, and that the reply thereto had been laid on the Table of the House. No further inquiry had been made since then. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1884/apr/04", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1884/apr/04/question-observations", "section": "question-observations", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "f the statesmen who guide England's councils. My Lords, I deeply regret that we separate for the Easter Recess with so feeble an account of the resolution of Her Ma- 1617 jesty's Government. When I saw that the only answer which the right hon. Gentleman the Prime Minister had to give to the Lender of the Opposition in \"another place\" was a reckless and stormy invective, I knew how much barrenness—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1884/apr/04", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1884/apr/04/question-observations", "section": "question-observations", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " extreme literalness of his ideas. But, on that occasion, he had indulged in sentiments of the purest sentimental kind. He had talked about the slaughter of 6,000 Arabs as being a great crime on the part of the British Government, and as having produced no effect whatever. He (the Duke of Argyll) looked upon that as not only sentiment, but he ventured to say it was maudlin, morbid sentimentality. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/02/the-irish-land-commission-court-valuers", "section": "the-irish-land-commission-court-valuers", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "ter and qualifications of Mr. Haughton. § MR. SPEAKER Order, order! The hon. Gentleman is not entitled to use the epithet which he has just used in giving Notice of a Question. § MR. WILLIAM REDMOND Then, I will give Notice that I shall take every opportunity which the Forms of the House allow of calling attention to the grossly improper conduct of the Land Commission in Ireland. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/02/motion-for-a-paper", "section": "motion-for-a-paper", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": " were engaged in slaughtering people who the Prime Minister had said were fighting for their freedom. It was a pity that the Government could not withstand the hysterical shrieks of a certain portion of the Press. This increase in our armaments meant no good to the people of this or of any other country; it meant outdoor relief to the aristocracy, as the right hon. Member for Birmingham had said. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/state-of-ireland-the-newspape-press", "section": "state-of-ireland-the-newspape-press", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " which a garbled extract was given in The Times , was not a vehement denunciation of agrarian crime, and an exhortation to the people to hunt it down themselves, and whether these articles were not published with the object of obtaining a public investigation into grave and specific charges against certain public officials therein named of taking away innocent lives, screening infamous officials —"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/state-of-ireland-the-newspape-press", "section": "state-of-ireland-the-newspape-press", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "obtaining a public investigation into grave and specific charges against certain public officials therein named of taking away innocent lives, screening infamous officials —[ Cries of \"Order!\" ] —corrupting the course of justice by packing juries, employing perjured witnesses, using the detective police for the purpose of or- 612 ganizing crime, and seducing convicts to give false evidence—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/state-of-ireland-the-newspape-press", "section": "state-of-ireland-the-newspape-press", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order! \"", "preceding_text": "BRIEN, who rose amid cries of \"Order!\" said: Sir, an attack has been made upon me, and I hope I may be allowed to reply to it. [\"Order!\"] § MR. CALLAN Move the adjournment. § MR. SPEAKER If the hon. Member wishes to make a personal explanation, the House will grant its indulgence. MR. O'BRIEN I simply wish to say that whatever may be the opinion of the right hon. Gentleman—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/ministerial-statement", "section": "ministerial-statement", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Oh, oh!\" and \"Longer!\"", "preceding_text": "e than 14 days, of summoning them together, with the advice of the Privy Council, with an interval of not less than six days. That being so, and considering the serious demand that has been made on the time and patience of Members at these Autumn Sittings, we think the House, when it rises—if it rises—on Saturday next, may adjourn, with a tolerably good conscience, until 658 the 10th of February. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Sir GEORGE 664 CAMPBELL: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "he greater earnestness, because I remember not very long ago a I right hon. Friend of mine, a Member of I the Cabinet, laid it down to me in conversation, as an incontestable proposition, that if we divided up the country into constituencies of equal populations; and had one Member elected by each such constituency, the judgment of the Members so elected must correspond with that of the electors. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Eighteen.", "preceding_text": "elled to vote as someone tells you? I think there is a very simple process of letting the voter himself say how he will pass on his vote from one candidate—his first choice—to a second, supposing it is not required by the first. Take the strongest example—that of Liverpool, with nine Members. Suppose that it is undivided, and a voter receives a ballot paper containing the names of all candidates. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "General Sir GEORGE BALFOUR: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": " Instruction to the Committee that certain constituencies should be named, and should be transferred from England or Wales or Ireland and given to Scotland. A fourth proposal had been made, the hon. Member for Leicester (Mr. Picton) having stated that he would move an Instruction to the Committee that the University seats should be disfranchised, and that these should be transferred to Scot-laud. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " Cannock, 13,000; Handsworth, 32,000; Leek, 12,000; Rowley Regis, 27,000; Smethwick, 25,000, or a total of 208,000 inhabitants. The whole population of the county, excluding the boroughs that would still exist, was 411,300; and therefore 200,968, or just half that number from whom the voters were to be taken to return the county Members, would not be rural, but strictly urban, in their character. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Not at all.", "preceding_text": "remembered the brilliant and unanswerable manner in which Lord Salisbury vindicated the rights of Parliament to a free and independent judgment in this matter. But, alas, \"How are the mighty fallen!\" It was lite- 711 rally, the truth that as far as their position in Parliament was concerned, the position they occupied then was precisely the position which they so bitterly denounced before. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: The Strand.", "preceding_text": "hat no one who had listened would have known which was the Conservative and which the Liberal. But in disfranchising, or partially disfranchising, such towns as Oxford, Cam- 716 bridge, Exeter, and Worcester—towns whore there must be some Conservative force, although they may return Liberals—and transferring the Members for those cities to such places as Bethnal Green, Rotherhithe, and Battersea. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/second-reading-1", "section": "second-reading-1", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Long ago.", "preceding_text": "ly it has been put down day after day on the Orders of the House—for what reason I do not exactly know—but the House having no indication of what the Bill really was intended to be, it was put down day after day on the Orders of the House. It is, therefore, pretty clear that the hon. Member himself did not know what the Bill was going to be until a recent date—probably not until a day or two ago. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "rable or even decent that further progress should be made. He thought he was only performing his duty when he moved the adjournment of the debate. § MR. A. R. D. ELLIOT The Bill was printed and circulated weeks ago. § Motion made, and Question proposed, \"That the Debate be now adjourned.\"—( Mr. Sexton .) § MR. WILLIAM REDMOND said, he did not wish unnecessarily to detain the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "ght be introduced to the House by them, and not by Her Majesty's Government. He considered that his hon. Friend, in moving the adjournment of the debate, had only done what was his absolute duty; and he sincerely hoped that it would be a lesson to the right hon. Gentleman the Chief Secretary—who had not altogether disappeared from the House—who, although he had slaughtered one useful Irish Member—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " attempts to suppress Irish Members in the measures they introduced, they would not succeed in that triumph without considerable loss of sleep. § MR. KENNY said, he should like to know from the hon. and learned Member who was responsible for the introduction of the Bill whether or not it was to apply to Ireland? § MR. A. R. D. ELLIOT Yes; it is to enable Irish voters to get to the poll. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/adjournment-of-the-house-1", "section": "adjournment-of-the-house-1", "cue_text": "An hon. MBMBER: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "h referred in that letter as a police spy, was a police spy. That man, at the time he was in the employment of Detective French and paid out of the Secret Service money, was going about 804 Cork inveigling people into conspiracy. He succeeded in doing so. He got some wretched young men to engage in a dynamite conspiracy. Two of his victims were tried in Liverpool and sentenced to penal servitude. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/dec/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/dec/04/adjournment-of-the-house-1", "section": "adjournment-of-the-house-1", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " of the Irish National School Teachers Bill on Saturday. He warned the Government that if they persisted in their refusal to allow the Irish Members to have a full and fair discussion of the merits of the Bill on Saturday the consequences would be not altogether satisfactory to the prospect the Chief Secretary for Ireland had before him in regard to the administration of law and order in Ireland. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/the-bankruptcy-act-appointment-of", "section": "the-bankruptcy-act-appointment-of", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "HARTLAND I wish to ask the right hon. Gentleman if after the Liberal Members of Parliament had addressed the officials of the Board of Trade with regard to these appointments, he can still say he was ignorant of the politics of the candidates for the offices? § MR. CHAMBERLAIN What I have stated is, that I am not aware of the politics of the majority of the gentlemen who have been appointed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/egypt-events-in-the-soudan", "section": "egypt-events-in-the-soudan", "cue_text": "Ministerial cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " very briefest and most succinct and decisive terms, and I cannot imagine that there can be any difficulty in presenting it to the House. § MR. CHAPLIN Do I understand the right hon. Gentleman to decline to state to the House until to-morrow, whether the Government intend to take effective measures for relief of the garrisons of Sinkat and Tokar or not? It seems to me that this is a question—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/egypt-events-in-the-soudan", "section": "egypt-events-in-the-soudan", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "esenting it to the House. § MR. CHAPLIN Do I understand the right hon. Gentleman to decline to state to the House until to-morrow, whether the Government intend to take effective measures for relief of the garrisons of Sinkat and Tokar or not? It seems to me that this is a question—[ Ministerial cries of \"Order!\"]—which, in order to allay the intense anxiety of 445 the country on the subject—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/egypt-events-in-the-soudan", "section": "egypt-events-in-the-soudan", "cue_text": "\"No, no!\" and \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "l, in my opinion, be found by Parliament that no part of this case has been neglected by them. § MR. W. E. FORSTER I hope I am not out of Order in saying I understand my right hon. Friend's answers, especially the first, to be that although he cannot give a definite reply to-day, yet that the Government have not come to an absolute decision or given up all hopes of relieving these garrisons. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/egypt-events-in-the-soudan", "section": "egypt-events-in-the-soudan", "cue_text": "Ministerial cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": " other garrisons in the Soudan which were in danger. The hon. Gentleman seems to forget that at and after that time means were organized by the Egyptian Government for the relief of those garrisons, which it 448 was believed and confidently expected would prove sufficient. § SIR R. ASSHETON CROSS I wish to ask whether the Government will give the House any Papers before the debate to-morrow? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " purpose.\"—( Rules and Orders , No. 23.) Now, where do hon. Gentlemen find that the Oath has to be administered, or that the Member has to be called on by the Speaker? We assert, rightly or wrongly, that a Member derives his right to go to the Table by his election, and that neither Mr. Speaker nor the House has the slightest right to prevent him. I will quote the language of Mr. Justice Stephen. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Yes.", "preceding_text": ".) Now, where do hon. Gentlemen find that the Oath has to be administered, or that the Member has to be called on by the Speaker? We assert, rightly or wrongly, that a Member derives his right to go to the Table by his election, and that neither Mr. Speaker nor the House has the slightest right to prevent him. I will quote the language of Mr. Justice Stephen. [\"Oh, oh!\"] Do hon. Gentlemen object? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " words of the Oath which follow the declaration were to him an unmeaning form. That, I think, was perfectly well admitted, and I need not prove it. Well, I confess that, for my part, I do regard those words of the Oath as an utterly unmeaning form—utterly and absolutely an unmeaning form. To me they are just the same superstitious incantation as the trash of any Mumbo-Jumbo among African savages. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "Opposition cries of \"Oh\" and \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "—determined to oppose Mr. Bradlaugh. [\"Question!\"] It is the Question. It was only when the Fourth Party had taken that decision that they were followed by the Conservative Party. Otherwise the Conservative Party would have sat quietly by and let Mr. Bradlaugh take his seat. Why did they do that? Everybody in the country knows why they did it. They did it simply because they wanted to waste time. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "Interruptions", "preceding_text": "re followed by the Conservative Party. Otherwise the Conservative Party would have sat quietly by and let Mr. Bradlaugh take his seat. Why did they do that? Everybody in the country knows why they did it. They did it simply because they wanted to waste time. [ Opposition cries of \"Oh\" and \"Order!\"] They did it because they wanted to throw impediments in the way of Liberal legislation. They did it—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "interruptions", "preceding_text": "tive Party would have sat quietly by and let Mr. Bradlaugh take his seat. Why did they do that? Everybody in the country knows why they did it. They did it simply because they wanted to waste time. [ Opposition cries of \"Oh\" and \"Order!\"] They did it because they wanted to throw impediments in the way of Liberal legislation. They did it—[ Interruptions ]—I am quite willing to stand here all night—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " believe the country understands the matter, and that hon. Gentlemen opposite do wish to waste the time of the House. § MR. T. COLLINS I rise to Order. I wish to know if the hon. Gentleman is in Order when he says that hon. Members on this side of the House wish to waste the time of the House? § MR. SPEAKER made no reply. 458 § MR. LABOUCHERE Perhaps I had better put it in this way—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " I am called upon to interfere. § MR. LABOUCHERE I heard an hon. Member shout out on the other side—I think the hon. Member for Eye (Mr. Ashmead-Bartlett)—that I did more than charge hon. Members with wasting the time of the House—namely, that I charged them with wasting it deliberately. Well, I believe that if they did waste it they would waste it deliberately. But I will put it in this way-"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "Mr. WARTON: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": " Commons, because the House of Commons is in the wrong. The House of Commons is merely the creature, and behind Mr. Bradlaugh stands the people of England. We shall see who wins in the end. You will find the people of England, I do not say this from any feeling of affection or regard for Mr. Bradlaugh as an individual, will support him. Assume, if you like, that Mr. Bradlaugh is the vilest of men—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "course, turn upon evidence as to what actually took place. I, therefore, wish to ask you, Sir, to direct the Clerk at the Table, who has carried off those papers, to replace them there, so that they may be inspected by any Member of the House; because I am under the impression—and should be prepared to give evidence on the point in any Court of Law—that, no Oath was taken and no Testament kissed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "Mr. SPEAKER did not rise for a few moments, and there were loud and continuous cries of \"Chair\" from the Irish Members.", "preceding_text": "fice in this House. I should like, however, to have an opinion from you, Sir, for the guidance of your Successor, so that I and my Friends, if we happen to find ourselves suspended again, may know that we may retire to that quiet and enjoyable nook in which Mr. Bradlaugh is, now sitting. What I want to know is whether an order to a Member to withdraw simply extends to the Bar of the House? § "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "stand that hon. Members on this side of the House, and perhaps a majority of the House, would object to a stranger, who is certainly not a Member, taking part in a Division of this House, and having his vote recorded by the officials of the House. Therefore, the point which hon. Members behind me have raised, with some persistence, does, I think, require some more luminous decision from the Chair—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Order! \"", "preceding_text": "he Amendment be withdrawn? \" § MR. HEALY Before the Amendment is withdrawn, I wish to put a question to Mr. Speaker. The House of Commons appears to be reduced to this position—that Mr. Speaker, having given a direction to an hon. Member who has not taken the Oath to withdraw, is quite powerless to enforce it. You, Sir, have given a direction, and it appears that you have stultified yourself—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\" and \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "uding days of your holding the Office of Speaker of this House—if, with all your great and wide experience, you find yourself powerless to enforce your own orders, you will have reduced the position of Speaker to this—that after your 10 or 15 years' experience in that Chair, you have given an order to an hon. Gentleman, and you have declared yourself that you have no power whatever to enforce it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "e had no right to vote, he simply added penalty on penalty, for the Court might decide that he must pay £500 for each vote. He (Mr. Labouchere) would suggest that, instead of going on with this Motion, they should pass quietly to the debate on the Address without any further trouble. Mr. Bradlaugh had voted already—for a specific purpose, as hon. Members knew; and he (Mr. Labouchere) would engage—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "section": "parliamentary-oath-mr-bradlaugh", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Passing through the House.", "preceding_text": "nal decision, which we conceive to be the greatest possible error; but, at the same time, to support and uphold the executive authority of the House, in regard to any orders which that authority might give in pursuance of that decision. And now the question is, has Mr. Bradlaugh, by his recent action in passing through the Lobby and voting, disobeyed the order of the Speaker and the House or not? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ady to set out with that force, it might be a question of hours; but the hon. Gentleman, as I apprehend, has no information that that 490 is the case; and I venture to state to him that it is not only not a question of hours, but that nothing would be gained, but much might be lost, by forcing the Government, if he would force the Government, to a premature statement on a subject not ripe for it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "ght be a question of hours; but the hon. Gentleman, as I apprehend, has no information that that 490 is the case; and I venture to state to him that it is not only not a question of hours, but that nothing would be gained, but much might be lost, by forcing the Government, if he would force the Government, to a premature statement on a subject not ripe for it. [\"Oh, oh!\"] Why not yet ripe for it? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "section": "prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "cue_text": "Colonel KING-HARMAN: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": " him to withdraw the instructions of the Lord Chancellor, and to allow the Orange faction to have free way in Ireland. Lord Palmerston replied— What, let mo ask, is the object, and what are the prospective advantages, of the Orange Association? Is it an organization which belongs to the age in which we live? Is not it rather one that is suited to the Middle Ages? Not being an Orangeman myself \"—— "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "section": "prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "cue_text": "Viscount CRICHTON: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "esenting various classes and interests in society, whose administration of the law would bring strength to the Government and induce amongst the people a respect for the administration of the law. The noble Lord the Member for Fermanagh (Vis- 512 count Crichton) said that, considering the way in which the office was degraded, the Commission of the Peace was not an enviable position now in Ireland—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "section": "prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "cue_text": "Irish MEMBERS: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "arman) thought that out of the hon. Gentleman's own mouth he could prove that his words were not exactly accurate. Speaking in Glasgow, on the 6th of November, 1883, the hon. Member for Sligo (Mr. Sexton) used these words— Yes; Mr. Forster's Police Act has certainly passed away, but the Irish people remain; the spirit of the Land League survives, and the ex-suspects are the leaders of the people. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "section": "prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "ner, some of them might be reduced to the condition which the hon. Member for the City of Cork described as threadbare—did they go to Parliament to ask for assistance to clear off their mortgages; nor did they go to a starving and down-trodden peasantry to extract from them a tribute of £38,000. It was the old, old Nationalist story; the old begging plea; the inexhaustible bottle of the conjuror. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "section": "prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Derry!\"", "preceding_text": "ately held a meeting at Castlewellan after it had been prohibited? It appeared that a Nationalist, as he was called, or, as he (Colonel King-Harman) preferred to call him, a Land Leaguer, might defy the law with impunity; but let an Orangeman make a mistake, and he was punished with the utmost rigour. It was the old story, that one man might steal a horse, and another might not look over a hedge. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "section": "prevention-of-crime-ireland-act-1882", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "s; and in Ulster they had drawn a cordon of bayonets around seditious agitators, thus preventing the loyal citizens of Ulster from doing more than show what their opinion was. He said that the magistrates of Ireland, as a body, had done their duty, and that they deserved well of their country. In an anxious and trying time they had done their duty without fear, favour, impartiality, or affection. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/bill-2-second-reading", "section": "bill-2-second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: At the same price?", "preceding_text": "been experienced in finding persons to perform the duties for one day. Though he should have thought, theoretically, that some difficulty would have been experienced in this matter, it had turned out not to be the case. Since 1878, at these elections, they had found no greater difficulty in getting persons to sit from 8 to 8 than they had previously experienced in getting them to sit from 8 to 4. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/11/motion-for-a-return", "section": "motion-for-a-return", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Agreed!\"", "preceding_text": "NT DEPARTMENTS (IRELAND). MOTION FOR A RETURN. HC Deb 11 February 1884 vol 284 cc548-54 548 MR. O'BRIEN said, he desired to move for a Return showing the names, place of birth, religious denomination, and salaries or emoluments of persons employed in Government Departments in Ireland under various headings. He was astonished to find that the Government made some difficulty in granting the Return. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/25/egypt-affairs-of-the-soudan-general-1", "section": "egypt-affairs-of-the-soudan-general-1", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "answered, to ask whether, having regard to the extraordinary and exceptional character of the mission of General Gordon, it would not be better to leave General Gordon to carry out, unmolested and in his own way, the duties which he had so courageously undertaken, and not through Questions addressed to Her Majesty's Government, especially when those Questions were founded on imperfect information—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/25/adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "The Marquess of HARTINGTON: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "eant that Osman Digna had a correspondent at Suakin; that the correspondent at Suakin had a correspondent in London, who was able to expend an enormous sum of money in telegraphing out to the correspondent at Suakin, who in his turn would send to Osman Digna in the desert, the speech of the noble Lord. The noble Marquess treated Suakim as if it were a capital of Europe with an enterprizing Press. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/25/adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Ironical, Ministerial cheers", "preceding_text": "policy with respect to Sinkat and Tokar. They would all be glad to know whether the noble Marquess could state, on his authority as Minister of War, that reinforcements were to be sent to General Graham, and that he was tolerably secure, though he was without Artillery and Cavalry, and two transports sent to assist him were on the rocks. He could not at all understand the policy of the Government—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/25/adjourned-debate", "section": "adjourned-debate", "cue_text": "Mr. PARNELL: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": " which is such that the Government could not possibly accept it. The Motion as it stands applies only to Ireland. How would it stand in the face of the country, even if we had arrived at the stage at which we should consider how to apply the local principle, that we should apply it to Ireland exclusively? It is quite plain that the claim of Scotland would be as undeniable as the claim of Ireland. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/feb/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/feb/25/adjourned-debate", "section": "adjourned-debate", "cue_text": "Mr. PARNELL: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "speeches of the hon. Member and the Prime Minister; but it seemed that they had forgotten one point, which was that the Committee constituted in the terms of the Amendment would have to deal with almost every Bill which was introduced, for they all applied to Ireland, unless that country was specially excluded. He supposed, however, that the hon. Member meant Bills which applied solely to Ireland—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/jun/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/jun/16/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "the Continent. He illustrates this statement by a reference to that marvellous institution— the English Sunday School. This is the religious side of the question which objectors tell us in this country our teaching neglects. They say we have introduced the secular system, which is degrading to religion, and that we are lowering the moral and religious tone of the people by our educational system. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/jun/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/jun/16/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Have they no voluntary contributions?", "preceding_text": "ce at the 40 schools was 12,500; the grant received was £8,700, and the deficit £2,345. When the list was put into his hand, he asked himself what was the addition to the Government grant which would put the 40 schools in question into a state of solvency. The calculation was very easily made. It was as nearly as possible one-fourth of the amount of the grant itself, or just about 4 s . per head. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/jun/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/jun/16/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "Mr. WARTON: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "laim for some further aid from the Imperial funds. He hoped his right hon. Friend would not look at this as purely a monetary and financial question; and he further hoped that he would not simply refer the matter to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and would not say that it was a question upon which he had to look to that right hon. Gentleman for an answer. In reality it was a question of policy. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/jun/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/jun/16/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "Mr. MUNDELLA: Oh, oh!", "preceding_text": " Browne. Dr. Crichton Browne's statement was to the effect that he was requested by the right hon. Gentleman the Vice President of the Council to make an inspection with regard to the alleged presence of over-pressure; that he devoted all his spare time to the inspection; and that when he made his Report, the right hon. Gentleman, who described it as a farrago of nonsense, declined to publish it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/jun/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/jun/16/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Which?", "preceding_text": "fference to the children who came last; and it would make an immense difference to the country to lose all the advantages of their education. He did not wish to put it solely upon this result; but he candidly confessed that another reason he had was, that they ought not to lose sight of the advantages education had derived from the zeal and energy and practical knowledge of those who promoted it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/jun/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/jun/16/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "Government, showing a considerable increase in the Government grant. That increase in the grant would go on, and he (Mr. Mundella) should be very glad if it did. But do not let them say that they thought it was a vital question for English religious teaching that the children should be trained in Denominational Schools, and then say they would not put their hands in their pockets to support them. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/jun/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/jun/16/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: How about the loans?", "preceding_text": "ion, were not going the right way to lighten the burdens of the voluntary subscribers to the Voluntary Schools. They were doing their very best to increase these burdens; because the more they disinclined the parent to send his child to school the more burden they placed on the back of the teacher, and the more burden they placed on their own back. He was sorry to have kept the Committee so long. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1884/jun/16", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1884/jun/16/motion-for-papers", "section": "motion-for-papers", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "ng rents, the Commissioners said — \"You must erect cottages.\" What was the rent they were to get for them? A shilling a-week. Do not suppose they are cottages such as your Lordships would erect for la- 360 bourers. We have it on the evidence of the Bessborough Commission, from a witness that appeared before it, that a cottage in Ireland, with all \"the convaniances of life,\" can be raised for £14. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1884/jun/16", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1884/jun/16/motion-for-papers", "section": "motion-for-papers", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " Irish legislation. I shall have no objection whatever to the production of the Returns moved for by my noble Friend. § THE MARQUESS OF WATERFORD said, that, in his opinion, the thanks of all who were interested in the true welfare of Ireland were due to the noble Duke opposite (the Duke of Argyll) for the able, eloquent, and perfectly unanswerable speech he had delivered to their Lordships. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/04/egypt-affairs-of-the-soudan-general", "section": "egypt-affairs-of-the-soudan-general", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "ESS OF HARTINGTON I have received no information whatever of such an intended attack. No orders have been sent cancelling or superseding the orders to General Graham which I read to the House yesterday. § MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT asked whether it would now be convenient to the Prime Minister to answer the Question which the noble Lord the Under Secretary for Foreign Affairs had failed to answer? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/sunday-closing-act-wales-operation-of", "section": "sunday-closing-act-wales-operation-of", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Wales, Wales!\"", "preceding_text": "e report I have heard from Wrexham has not been favourable to the condition of that town on Sundays. But there are some Returns—and this is a matter of considerable interest—to which I would refer the hon. Member on this matter. In Scotland, as he knows, Sunday closing has been in operation for a great many years, and there has been a Return moved for by the hon. Member for Glasgow (Mr. Anderson)—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/suez-canal-company-arrangement-between-m", "section": "suez-canal-company-arrangement-between-m", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ngement has been made between the Canal Company and an Association of Shipowners; and all that Her Majesty's Government have said is that they deem that a satisfactory and wise arrangement. § SIR H. DRUMMOND WOLFF It was not Lord Granville, but the Prime Minister, who made use of the words I have quoted. I read them from Hansard , because I anticipated a shuffling answer from the Government. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "n thinks that an argument worth laying before the House, and founding upon it what was to be a Vote of Censure upon Her Majesty's Government, I may say that with that argument I am not prepared to cope. The right hon. and gallant Gentleman goes back to the condition of Egypt generally. He has described our difficulties—difficulties which came to us with the inheritance of the previous Government. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ble of them; because I have shown they were distinctly warned of what was to come before they contracted the engagement. But why should the right hon. and gallant Gentleman 702 exaggerate the difficulties? Why should he say that \"for 20 months you have been going on in Egypt and nothing has been done?\" Is that true? He says we went to restore tranquillity in Egypt. Tranquillity has been restored. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "r Majesty's Government. He need not dwell upon the utter absurdity of these naval and military gentlemen entering into theological questions in a Proclamation of this sort. Of course, the translation might be more or less inaccurate, and he hoped to hear that there was not the slightest truth in the fact that Admiral Hewett and General Graham had entered into any theological questions at 729 all. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "General Sir GEORGE BALFOUR: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "to go into. The questions, however, which had been raised in the course of the evening ought to be debated till the Committee got from the Government an assurance as to their intentions, which up to the present moment they had not received. All that they had heard from the Government was—\" We mean at the very first opportunity to leave Egypt; we mean, as soon as possible, to withdraw our troops.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: What from?", "preceding_text": "ventured to say that the right hon. Gentleman, had not rescued the Liberal Party from any of its difficulties—unless it were the difficulty they felt as to the choice of a Leader—but he had plunged the Party into deeper difficulties, and the country with it. [\"No, no!\"] Hon. Members opposite might say \"No, no!\" but he would ask them whether the Prime Minister had rescued the Liberal Party or not? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " had been preaching from his (Sir Wilfrid Lawson's) text. He was not going to reply to a great deal that the hon. Gentleman had said, because he observed that the hon. Member's remarks were very much like bits of the speeches which had come from other quarters on the Opposition side of the House; and though speeches were excellent by way of criticism, they did not suggest any policy of their own. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: What Government?", "preceding_text": "pproved of his (Sir Wilfrid Lawson's) finding fault with the Khedive and calling him \"a miserable man.\" Well, the Khedive was a miserable man; and in saying that he was not using language too strong, for he had a high precedent for it. The Home Secretary, who was a model of moderation and respectability in his language, had the other day called the Government \"a miserable Government.\" [\"No, no!\"] "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "A laugh .", "preceding_text": " have—a right they were all so proud of in England; and before this debate concluded he should like some one to tell them why the Egyptian people were to be an exception to that rule, which they were so anxious to see applied to all other nations? The Egyptian people wished simply to govern themselves; to 766 vote their own Budget; to manage their own affairs; and that was a simple enough demand. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ed to Arabi and the rebellion, and had said that in the national movement there were some undeveloped germs which might have borne fruit. But the British Government had crushed those germs, and to his mind the history of the world hardly showed a more melancholy transaction, particularly as those germs had been crushed by a people who were proud of their freedom. Our action was too bad for France—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: We have India.", "preceding_text": "an illustration of that near home. Let them look at Ireland, which was only a few miles from them. There they had to govern by means of an Army against the will of the people, and what was the consequence? Why, the consequence was that hon. Members were worn out with sitting up until 6 o'clock in the morning sometimes, and the House of Commons itself ran the risk of being brought into ill repute. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "l son, a good husband, and a kind father, and, on the whole, a respectable man; and he summed up Arabi's character in these words— Never since the days of Mehemet Ali, or perhaps from a much earlier date, was there a man who had such a firm hold on the country as Arabi, for he had not only the Army but Police at his disposal, and consequently was in a position to terrorize to any extent he chose. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " say anything on the subject, or give the Committee any information as to their intentions. He thanked the Committee for their kindness in listening so patiently to him; and he hoped that when he spoke on future occasions he would not incur the Chairman's displeasure. § LORD GEORGE HAMILTON moved that the Chairman do now report Progress. He assumed the Government would not resist the Motion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/committee-progress-28th-february", "section": "committee-progress-28th-february", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "dealing with any part of this great question of the preservation of rivers; they should remember the case of the Blackwater. In that case the Duke of Devonshire alleged he held the river under a patent before King John from Lismore down to the sea. He (Mr. Healy) intended, at a convenient time, to bring in a Bill to meet this robbery by the noble Duke, the father of the Secretary of State for War—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/committee-progress-28th-february", "section": "committee-progress-28th-february", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " the case of the Blackwater. In that case the Duke of Devonshire alleged he held the river under a patent before King John from Lismore down to the sea. He (Mr. Healy) intended, at a convenient time, to bring in a Bill to meet this robbery by the noble Duke, the father of the Secretary of State for War—[\"Order!\"] To his mind, it amounted to a theft of the people's rights by the Duke of Devonshire—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/committee-progress-28th-february", "section": "committee-progress-28th-february", "cue_text": "Mr. HEALY: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "them get out of Committee; that was all he asked. § MR. HIBBERT said, he should be glad to meet the views of the hon. Member if he thought the result could be in any way satisfactory. He did not object to consider the case the hon. Member proposed with reference to Ireland; but the Freshwater Fisheries Act, 1878 , and all the Acts incorporated in the present Bill, referred solely to England. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/committee-progress-28th-february", "section": "committee-progress-28th-february", "cue_text": "Mr. WARTON: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "Member for Stockton said \"No;\" and, of course, they gave his negative the full authority it was entitled to. Would hon. Gentlemen on the Treasury Bench give the Irish Members any guarantee that an attempt would be made to meet the Irish case? It was understood in Ireland that there was a great grievance in that country on this question. The people generally saw some hope of getting the franchise. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/06/committee-progress-28th-february", "section": "committee-progress-28th-february", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "ther House, is most indecorous and improper. § MR. HEALY As I have your ruling on that point, Sir Arthur Otway, I, of course, accept it; but I should have been glad if the correction had come from someone else than the noble Lord opposite. I think it would have been more decent in him, as the son of the Duke of Devonshire, to have left it to someone 807 else to take exception to my language. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/merchant-shipping-bill-loss-of-life-at", "section": "merchant-shipping-bill-loss-of-life-at", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ng trade at the present moment will have the effect of inducing shipowners during the next two or three years to over-insure their ships, with the view of causing them to be lost for their own benefit, and by that means risking the lives of seamen? I wish to ask the right hon. Gentleman whether he still adheres to that statement? § MR. CHAMBERLAIN No, Sir; I did not say anything of the kind. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "e from Egypt, and used language which he (Mr. Laing) was afraid came perilously near that of some of the hon. Members below the Gangway—groaning under the responsibilities of an Empire of 300,000,000 of people, wishing we could contract and turn our great Empire into a second-rate State, and anxious that we should retire behind the \"silver streak,\" which he would make the boundary of the Kingdom. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ople, their finance, and all which went to make them happy and secure depended. If that administration were in the hands of Englishmen, he had not the smallest doubt that the troubles, difficulties, and disasters in Egypt, the bad finance, the corruption, and the suffering amongst the fellaheen would practically cease in a very short time, and with them would cease many of our political troubles. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "te from the official despatches, showing exactly how the mind of the Government had been made up on this question. In the first place, the news of General Baker's defeat reached this country on the 5th February last. The Committee would remember the right hon. Baronet the President of the Local Government Board (Sir Charles W. Dilke), whose ingenuity was far in excess of his accuracy of statement—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " the day after the receipt of the news of General Baker's defeat, he (Mr. Ashmead-Bartlett) had put a question to the Government. The question was, whether they would now take steps to go to the relief of the garrisons; and this was the extraordinary answer he got from the Prime Minister, who appeared to be somewhat agitated at the time and, therefore, perhaps, did not realize what he was saying. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "Mr. JESSE COLLINGS: Oh, oh!", "preceding_text": " campaigns I could be read, it would be found that 1119 the action of the Government, in despatching General Graham's force to Suakin, had been influenced by the pressure put upon them by Foreign Powers, and that pressure was not likely to cease. Her Majesty's Government were losing all the trade of the Soudan, and casting away the means of doing good to the people, by their half-and-half policy. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "claration more than another that we have reiterated until the House must be sick of hearing of it, it is that very declaration, and it now comes out as the climax of a great Opposition speech, addressed to us in total for got fulness of the language which we have used so often and so freely that it requires a special petition for the indulgence of the House if one were to attempt to use it again. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-army-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "f, as I stated at the time on the Motion for Adjournment, that, so far as the public interest was concerned, and without any detriment to the public interest, the debate might have been very well suffered to conclude on that 1144 evening. Those among us whose fate it was to attend the greater part of that evening saw the manifest and evident difficulty with which the debate was kept alive at all. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-navy-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-navy-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "§ (2.) Motion made, and Question proposed, That a Supplementary sum, not exceeding £147,200, be granted to Her Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March 1884, for additional Expenditure arising out of Military Operations in Egypt. § MR. W. H. SMITH said, he hoped the Government would now consent to report Progress. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/10/supply-navy-supplementary-estimates-vote", "section": "supply-navy-supplementary-estimates-vote", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "ay that five minutes would exhaust all that it was possible to say on that subject on one side or the other. Then the right hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. W. H. Smith) said the Vote ought to be postponed, because it was announced that they had undertaken certain responsibilities with regard to what was called the littoral of the Red Sea, to which the right hon. Gentleman ascribed a number of miles. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/egypt-military-operations-in-the-soudan-1", "section": "egypt-military-operations-in-the-soudan-1", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": ", however, perhaps be permitted to say that I have telegraphed to General Graham, congratulating him on the success which he has gained, and on the conduct of his gallant troops, and asking him to report fully as to details, and also to report fully on the situation. § SIR HENRY TYLER I beg to ask the noble Lord whether his attention has been called to a telegram in The Daily Telegraph to-day"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/evictions-ireland-the-returns", "section": "evictions-ireland-the-returns", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "d the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, If he will state why the monthly Returns of Evictions in Ireland are discontinued, while the monthly Returns of Agrarian Outrages are still issued; and, whether he will cause the Eviction Returns to be completed and presented to the end of last month? § MR. TREVELYAN Sir, it is manifestly undesirable to multiply the printing of Returns—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "re might be a great reduction of staff, as well as the infusion of increased energy and efficiency into the Board. The hon. Member for Sligo (Mr. Sexton) asked what progress had been made with reference to the advances which had been made under the Land Law (Ireland) Act for loans to occupiers of land? He knew that the Board had been very active in that matter, and had done a fair amount of work. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "; MR. RAMSAY said, that, before the Attorney General replied to the questions which had been addressed to him by so many hon. Members, he would suggest that one means of relieving these learned Gentlemen from some of their duties was that the Government should at an early date, by means of legislation, prevent the possibility of English Judges interfering with the jurisdiction of Scottish Courts. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "\"Oh! \"from the Irish Members .", "preceding_text": "mâ facie case for committing a man for trial. The only other observation he would make was in reference to the statement of the hon. Member, that attempts had been made by the Crown to obtain juries more favourable to conviction. That statement he denied in the strongest terms. He denied that any man had ever been sot aside, or ever would be told to stand aside, on account of his religion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "argues from that that a diminution in the cost of detecting crime ought to take place in consequence. I can well believe that that should be so; but we have not yet reached the point at which it occurs. One cause of the diminution of crime in Ireland is because the war 1451 against crime has been carried on with special vigour—and I would, at the same time, venture to say with exceptional success—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Paid to the informers?", "preceding_text": "er interrupt them, and I must ask that I shall not be treated in this manner. We have clone that in a year which has been marked, of all years in the history of our country, for the successful prosecution of a very great, and, as it was satisfactory, a very successful crime. Now, £5,000 of that increase is due to the rewards that were paid for bringing to justice the Phœnix Park murderers. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "Mr. HEALY: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "ry early in the proceedings, because it was shown that he had acted under compulsion, and without any participation in the act of murder. Hon. Members, earlier in the debate, brought charges against me, with singular vehemence, couched in language which I really think those hon. Members would hardly repeat in their cooler moments. I was charged with having tried to hang an innocent man and woman. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "gs, because it was shown that he had acted under compulsion, and without any participation in the act of murder. Hon. Members, earlier in the debate, brought charges against me, with singular vehemence, couched in language which I really think those hon. Members would hardly repeat in their cooler moments. I was charged with having tried to hang an innocent man and woman. [Mr. HEALY: Hear, hear!] "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "Laughter from the Irish Members .", "preceding_text": "of this Estimate is a thing which I keenly value. In the suppression of crime it is possible that hardships have resulted to individuals. Well, these hardships I deeply regret; but they have not been hardships inflicted from any animus against the people. The Irish Government earnestly and sincerely endeavours to detect the guilty, and earnestly and sincerely endeavours to render innocence secure—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: He did not answer it.", "preceding_text": "y something like £20,000 was advertised in the Irish papers to be given for the discovery of these crimes. The Chief Secretary, however, also by way 1459 of illustrating, presumably, his peculiar relations with the country which he was sent to govern, devoted most of his attention to answering the very reasonable and business-like criticism of the hon. Member for Wolverhampton (Mr. H. H. Fowler). "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Two days.", "preceding_text": "of the Session, which were not devoted to the Speech from the Throne and the Vote of Censure, have been devoted to the Supplementary Estimates, except the days which were devoted to the introduction of the Representation of the People Bill . The Government have not taken a single day during the present Session, except for the Supplementary Estimates and for the Representation of the People Bill . "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-vii-miscellaneous", "section": "class-vii-miscellaneous", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "eb 13 March 1884 vol 285 cc1502-14 1502 § (21.) Motion made, and Question proposed, That a sum, not exceeding £7,020, be granted to Her Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March 1884, for the repayment to the Civil Contingencies Fund of certain Miscellaneous Advances. § MR. WARTON begged to move to report Progress. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-vii-miscellaneous", "section": "class-vii-miscellaneous", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "Gentlemen seem so anxious for, I must oppose the Motion. § MR. WARTON said, it was obviously the duty of the Government to give time for the consideration of the Votes. Long before any arrangement, so-called, was come to in regard to the postponement of any Votes, the right hon. and learned Member for Whitehaven (Mr. Cavendish Bentinek) had left the House, being not at all well that evening. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/13/class-vii-miscellaneous", "section": "class-vii-miscellaneous", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "ent in Royal Yachts; but, nevertheless, whenever any of Her Majesty's relatives liked to go abroad, or whenever any Royal personage connected with this country who had married into a wealthy family abroad came to England to see her relatives, a special packet was to be employed, at a cost of £40 each way, to bring her here and take her back. He had the greatest respect for these august personages—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/19/bill-5-second-reading", "section": "bill-5-second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "ed. This Bill dealt with the compensation which was to be given to the reversioner in estates of 50 or 60 years; but experienced valuers stated that the compensation for a reversion beyond 40 years was practically nil , and that would be the amount which the County Court Judge would be bound to give under the provisions of this measure. But was that the real value of the property of the landlord? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/mar/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/mar/19/bill-5-second-reading", "section": "bill-5-second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " the sanction of Her Majesty's Government. § LORD RANDOLPH CHURCHILL said, when he observed that the hon. and learned Gentleman opposite the Attorney General, in the course of his speech, mentioned Belgrave Square, he (Lord Randolph Churchill) said he thought it would come to that. The House would perceive very clearly that, they had been treated to the views of the owner of Belgrave Square. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/02/egypt-events-in-the-soudan-relief-of", "section": "egypt-events-in-the-soudan-relief-of", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "enerals that an Anglo-Egyptian Force could be sent to Berber, the British Government telegraphed to Hassem Khalifa, Governor of Berber, that no help could be given to him? 1166 § LORD EDMOND FITZMAURICE I replied just now to both Questions. § MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT Am I in Order in asking the noble Lord whether he will kindly repeat the answer which he gave, for I failed to understand it? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/02/egypt-events-in-the-soudan-relief-of", "section": "egypt-events-in-the-soudan-relief-of", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No! \"", "preceding_text": " to Hassem Khalifa, Governor of Berber, that no help could be given to him? 1166 § LORD EDMOND FITZMAURICE I replied just now to both Questions. § MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT Am I in Order in asking the noble Lord whether he will kindly repeat the answer which he gave, for I failed to understand it? [ Cries of \"Order!\"] Will he be so good as to inform the House why he declines to reply? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/02/parliament-sittings-and-adjournment-of", "section": "parliament-sittings-and-adjournment-of", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "'s Motion was clear, that previous to the 1st of June Morning Sittings should not be taken except by Resolution of the House. The Home Secretary had said that this must lead to a waste of time. For his own part, he did not think that it would do so in the least degree. It was most improper that the Government should come down at that period of the year and deprive private Members of their rights. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/02/motion-for-a-select-committee", "section": "motion-for-a-select-committee", "cue_text": "A laugh .", "preceding_text": "on; but what he wanted to point out was, that it was very difficult for those sitting on the Opposition side of the House, or any independent Member, to believe that the support given to the Motion by the hon. Members for Hereford could be sincere, on account of the extraordinary 1216 conduct pursued by the Government. What was to become of the reputation of the House of Commons if the Government—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/02/motion-for-a-select-committee", "section": "motion-for-a-select-committee", "cue_text": "\"Order, Order!\"", "preceding_text": "d be sincere, on account of the extraordinary 1216 conduct pursued by the Government. What was to become of the reputation of the House of Commons if the Government—[ A laugh .] He knew that the hon. Member for Stockton (Mr. Dodds), and his protector, the Home Secretary, cared very little for the reputation of the House of Commons, and allowed its honour and character to be dragged into the dirt. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/02/madagascar-observations", "section": "madagascar-observations", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "unfortunately, they were refused, that would enable Her Majesty's Government to use their friendly offices in order to bring about that condition of things which all desired to see restored, the House and the country might rest assured that the opportunity would not be lost. § MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT said, he wished to correct two statements which the noble Lord had made with regard to himself. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/07/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "athed into the Bill by the people it remains a dead letter.\" He divided his remarks into four parts—(1) The necessity for the Bill, (2) the objects of it, (3) the principle, and (4) the machinery. He would first speak as to the necessity for the Bill. The measure had not met with much favour in the country. All sorts of depreciatory epithets had been applied to it. It had been called \"dishonest.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/07/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " for the Bill, (2) the objects of it, (3) the principle, and (4) the machinery. He would first speak as to the necessity for the Bill. The measure had not met with much favour in the country. All sorts of depreciatory epithets had been applied to it. It had been called \"dishonest.\" [\"Hear, hear!\"] It had been called \"a huge joke\" and \"a great blunder,\" and it had been called \"tyrrannical.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/07/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Mr. WARTON: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "ecide by plebiscite 1604 whether they should have pure water, why should they not be allowed to decide in the same way whether they should banish from their midst a traffic which produced so much social misery and moral depravity? It was further said that it was unconstitutional, inasmuch as it gave the majority the power to dictate to the minority what they should and what they should not drink. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/07/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Mr. C. S. PARKER: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "he necessary effect of his action was to divide the Party, and give the Government an excuse for not bringing in a Bill. He never expected to pass the Bill—he meant this Session; but he thought a great deal was gained by this discussion upon it; and perhaps next year, when he should introduce it again, it would be passed. If the Amendment were carried it would recognize the principle of the Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/15/observations-4", "section": "observations-4", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "t; MR. BIGGAR Mr. Speaker— [ Cries of \"Order!\") § MR. SPEAKER Does the hon. Gentleman rise for the purpose of raising a point of Order? § MR. BIGGAR Yes, Sir; I rise to a point of Order, and the point of Order is this—whether or not, in the circumstances, the Government cannot set up Supply in order to give an opportunity for discussing the matter, and a decision being arrived at—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/15/ways-and-means-the-financial-proposals", "section": "ways-and-means-the-financial-proposals", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "re was increasing, to borrow an expression of the Prime Minister, by \"leaps and bounds;\" but the income was more or less stationary. What was the cause of this great increase of expenditure? There was a popular delusion cherished by certain Gentlemen, especially those below the Gangway, that this increase was due to the paying off by the present Government of debts incurred by their Predecessors. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/15/ways-and-means-the-financial-proposals", "section": "ways-and-means-the-financial-proposals", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: On foreign wines.", "preceding_text": "f this kind. It was estimated that the present Tea Duty would produce this year about £4,400,000. If it were reduced by one-half there would be a deficit of somewhere about £2,000,000. The hon. and gallant Gentleman (Colonel Nolan) who made this Motion, and the hon. Gentleman who had just spoken, had suggested that the money required should be obtained by increasing the duty on spirits and wines. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/19/parliament-rules-and-orders-of-the-house", "section": "parliament-rules-and-orders-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "those objections or settling them— possibly by collusion with the Clerk at the Table, although, of course, I only put that as a possibility—whether that fact would destroy that right of priority? MR. GLADSTONE I rise to Order. I heard the hon. Member say that something has occurred by the possible collusion of the Clerk at the Table. MR. O'BRIEN The right hon. Gentleman misunderstands my meaning. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/19/parliament-rules-and-orders-of-the-house", "section": "parliament-rules-and-orders-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " MR. SPEAKER If I had considered that the right hon. Gentleman was out of Order I should have called him to Order. The right hon. Gentleman is entitled to proceed. MR. O'BRIEN Will you allow me, Sir, to go on? § MR. SPEAKER I call upon Mr. Gladstone. MR. GLADSTONE My object, Sir, in rising to Order was to invite your protection for the Clerk at the Table. § MR. HEALY Nobody attacked him "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/19/parliament-rules-and-orders-of-the-house", "section": "parliament-rules-and-orders-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Order !\" amid which the hon. Member resumed his seat .", "preceding_text": "ending themselves; and it does appear to me that if the Rules of this House are to allow of attacks of this kind upon gentlemen who cannot defend themselves, it is a matter of importance seriously calling for the consideration of the House. I respectfully submit to you, Sir, whether or not the protection of the House ought not to be extended to these gentlemen? MR. O'BRIEN Upon the point of Order—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/19/parliament-rules-and-orders-of-the-house", "section": "parliament-rules-and-orders-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "d which the hon. Member resumed his seat .] § MR. SPEAKER I should have risen at once to vindicate the impugned character of the Clerks at the Table if the statement I was immediately about to make in reply to the hon. Member did not itself amply vindicate it. With reference to the remarks made by the hon. Gentleman the Member for Mallow (Mr. O'Brien), I have to say— MR. O'BRIEN Mr. Speaker— "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/19/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: One in 66.", "preceding_text": " Now, I say that these figures constitute, at all events, a primâ facie case. There is terrible loss of life. The shipowners complain that I have taken a single year. Well, drop the single year and take the whole 12. What is the fact with regard to the whole of these 12 years? It is this—that in that time 36,000 men suffered violent deaths; and of the whole number one in six lost his life. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/19/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: To steam.", "preceding_text": "ile the tonnage between 1871 and 1882 increased by 23 per cent—that is to say, from 5,634,000 in 1871 to 6,921,000 in 1882—the number of men employed declined from 218,000 to 212,000, or a decrease of 3 per cent. So that while the tonnage has gone up 20 per cent, the number of men has gone down 3 per cent. Of course, the decrease in the number of men employed is due partly to improved appliances. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1884/may/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1884/may/19/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Mr. MAC IVER: Hear, hear !", "preceding_text": "ean not loss which could certainly have been prevented, but loss which might possibly have been prevented. The facts which these figures disclose constitute a very serious state of things. I am not going to appeal to the sentiments of the House of Commons. Common humanity will suffice to make us give the facts serious consideration. I have been accused of having been sensational in my statements. "}