{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/apr/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/apr/10/contents-and-boundaries-of-boroughs-with", "section": "contents-and-boundaries-of-boroughs-with", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Last Session.", "preceding_text": "ied, the question of the extension of boundaries of Dublin is not ripe for settlement. 1330 The matter, consequently, stood thus—two Commissions had reported in favour of the extension of the municipal boundaries which was now suggested. The Corporation of Dublin had no power to promote a Bill for themselves; but the Government, through Lord Spencer, had promised to introduce a Bill this Session. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/apr/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/apr/10/england", "section": "england", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " received any support 1348 from the Committee, he should certainly press the Amendment to a division. § Amendment negatived. § MR. WARTON said, the next eight Amendments were to the same effect as the one which had just been disposed of. He would therefore pass over them, and go on to the Amendment in page 26, column 1, line 32, to leave out the word \"Mid,\" and insert the word \"Central.\""}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/apr/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/apr/10/england", "section": "england", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "an exception should be made. Fortunately, there was an appeal from the Front Benches to the country at large, and he hoped it would be seen that this matter was not one to be settled by a compact between those Benches, but by the House. § MR. WEBSTER said, he was profoundly dissatisfied with the decision to which the right hon. Gentleman in charge of the Bill (Sir Charles W. Dilke) had come. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/apr/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/apr/10/england", "section": "england", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "d been said by an hon. Member that if certain little insects were unanimous they might pull a person out of bed. So in the case of hon. Members 1417 who had grievances in connection with this measure. If they would all unite, each would be able to carry his point; but, as it was, they scattered themselves, enabling the Government to meet each discontented section separately, and defeat it easily. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/apr/22/second-reading-3", "section": "second-reading-3", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "lions of men who were interested in the subject who had not been consulted, and who had had no voice in the matter, it was only fair that the debate should be adjourned. The Bill, as presented to the House, was of a hybrid, imperfect character, which ought not to be allowed to pass in its existing form. If they were to stop drinking on Sundays lot them begin at home. Let them begin at that House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/apr/22/second-reading-6", "section": "second-reading-6", "cue_text": "Laughter from Irish Members below the Gangway.", "preceding_text": "the question. He gladly admitted that the education provided for Law students in Ireland was extremely good; and it might, at first sight, appear that there was no occasion for their visiting the English Schools of Law. He feared, however, that if the measure were passed without reservation or qualification it might be regarded by some as tending to the lowering of the character of the Irish Bar. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/apr/22/second-reading-6", "section": "second-reading-6", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "eland—the King's Inns —and the statement that the Benchers were not a good authority to pronounce an opinion and give advice on this subject seemed to him to be one of the most extravagantly Radical propositions he had ever heard. The Benchers knew the practice and working of the Bar in Ireland, and he was quite sure that they enjoyed the confidence and represented the general opinion of the Bar. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/apr/22/second-reading-6", "section": "second-reading-6", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ges and distinguished members of the Bar upon the subject. They were told that because the Chief Secretary supported the adjournment that he had appeared in his true colours, and that he desired to tyrannize over the Irish people. The imputation was perfectly ridiculous. It did not in the least matter to the Irish people what the opinion of the Chief Secretary on this particular subject might be. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/aug/05/royal-commission-on-the-depression-of", "section": "royal-commission-on-the-depression-of", "cue_text": "Mr. WARTON: Oh, oh!", "preceding_text": "measure by the House of Lords. It was impossible, he thought, that Mr. Nicholson could have issued this Circular unless he knew he was acting in a way which would give pleasure to the Prime Minister. He was very much shocked the other day to see evidence of an extraordinary internal dissension in the Conservative Party, especially with reference to the noble Lord the Secretary of State for India. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/aug/05", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/aug/05/royal-commission-on-the-depression-of", "section": "royal-commission-on-the-depression-of", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\" and \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_text": "an affectionate look upon his face such as I have never seen upon it before. There is not a man who has an eye in his head who does not know that the hon. Gentleman who represents United Ireland and the town of Mallow in this House has been caught hold of by the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Attorney General for Ireland, and kissed upon both cheeks, and asked to assault those damned Whigs. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/13/army-estimates", "section": "army-estimates", "cue_text": "Dr. CAMERON: Oh, oh!", "preceding_text": "he hon. Gentleman was well aware, it was necessary, when an Expedition left this country, that certain reserves of supplies and stores should go out with the troops. Then the hon. Gentleman said that the packing of the biscuits was bad. Lord Wolseley, in his despatch which was read by the Surveyor General (Mr. Guy Dawnay), said that, generally speaking, the supplies were properly and well packed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/13/supply-8th-july-report", "section": "supply-8th-july-report", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "licy for his re-instatement than there were before. The House would not expect him (Mr. Shaw Lefevre) to go fully into those reasons. He thought it would be obvious to anyone that at a time when they were making preparations for a possible outbreak of war it was not unimportant 551 that the Government should he in a position to command information which Hobart Pasha had on very important matters. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/13/supply-8th-july-report", "section": "supply-8th-july-report", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": ". He (Mr. M'Coan) happened to be at Constantinople when Hobart Pasha first entered the Turkish Service, and well recollected the circumstances under which Hobart Pasha was appointed; and he could testify that during that gallant officer's residence in Constantinople, and his service in the Turkish Navy, he rendered not only good service to the Turks, but excellent service to this country as well. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/13/supply-8th-july-report", "section": "supply-8th-july-report", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "e Retired List, and that if he exercised his right he received half-pay; that when he came to the top of the list of Commanders ho became a retired Captain; and that when he became to the top of the list of Captains he became a retired Admiral. A retired Admiral's services were never called upon. Hobart Pasha would never be called upon by Her Majesty's Government; his services could not be asked. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/13/second-reading-1", "section": "second-reading-1", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ng, at any agreement on the principle of the Bill; and, therefore, he thought it better at once to move the adjournment of the debate. § Motion made, and Question proposed, \"That the Debate be now adjourned.\"—( Mr. R. H. Paget. ) § MR. RAMSAY said, he had no intention at that hour of the morning (2 A.M.) of unduly occupying the time of the House; but he would like to make a few remarks. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/13/motion-for-leave", "section": "motion-for-leave", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": " law of England; and on that ground he asked that the second reading should not be taken until the Bill had been in the hands of Members and before the country for a time sufficient to admit of its being adequately considered. § MR. CARINGTON said, he recollected a case in his constituency of a boy working in the fields meeting with an accident. The poor fellow was taken to the parish doctor—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/27/supply-considered-in-committee", "section": "supply-considered-in-committee", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "eneral terms, what the policy of Her Majesty's Government in regard to Bechuanaland was, as the information now in possession of the House was extremely deficient. The late Government told them nothing whatever, but left them in a state of doubt; and the present Government, being merely a temporary Government, it became very difficult for them to decide upon the question of permanent expenditure. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/27/class-i-public-works-and-buildings", "section": "class-i-public-works-and-buildings", "cue_text": "Laughier.", "preceding_text": "arbour was likely to cost more than the Estimate, so that the total expenditure might be £700,000. This was one of the harbours recommended by the Select Committee which had sat to inquire into the subject of Harbours of Refuge. He had been a Member of the Committee, by whom several recommendations had been made. He did not know were Peterhead was, but supposed it was somewhere on the East Coast. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/27/class-vii-miscellaneous-1", "section": "class-vii-miscellaneous-1", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "n had the right of taking a man-of-war if she liked. Well, they had been told that the Crown had the power of closing the parks; but it was said at the time that it would cost three Crowns to do it. He knew that there were abstract rights of that sort; but they could never be exercised. Now, this was a very thin House; but he wished them to consider that all those who were absent agreed with him. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1885/jul/27", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1885/jul/27/medical-relief-disqualification-removal", "section": "medical-relief-disqualification-removal", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "ntinued. I have been called to Order for much less. THE EARL OF ROSEBERY I must call attention to the facts of the case. If this Bill is a derelict, it is because it was abandoned by the Leader of the House of Commons. There can be no question as to who ought to have charge of the Bill in this House, for it was at once taken charge of by the Liberal Leader for the time being—Sir William Harcourt. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1885/jul/27", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1885/jul/27/question-observations", "section": "question-observations", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "st proposal of fresco-painting, and caused an indefinite amount of delay. There was no one, either inside or outside the House, who appreciated more fully than his right hon. Friend (Mr. Plunket) the many merits of Mr. Herbert's paintings; paintings which had been justly praised in his own generation, and would certainly carry his name down to posterity as one of the greatest painters of the day. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/supply-report", "section": "supply-report", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "te or to the world had General Gordon done that should make the House of Commons vote money for a statue of him, for he (Sir Wilfrid Lawson) supposed that statues were not voted to men simply because they were good and honourable? It was true that General Gordon had heroic qualities; but he (Sir Wilfrid Lawson) himself did not think that General Gordon did any good to the State while at Khartoum. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/supply-report", "section": "supply-report", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "rom the Government as to why they should pass the Vote. It must be remembered that General Gordon came before them as one who went to Khartoum for the specific purpose of making peace. No doubt he fought very gallantly; but he fought in a cause which, in the opinion of some hon. Members, was a wrong one. In that manner he did not carry out the instructions or intentions of those who sent him out. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "hough I regret that some time has elapsed between its second reading and the Motion that you, Sir, do leave the Chair, yet, as the right hon. Gentleman beside me (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) has stated to the House to-day, we shall go on with the consideration of the measure from day to day until the Committee is closed. This is a question which has stirred England from one end to the other. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Interruption, and emphatic cries of \"Order!\" and \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_text": "further inquiry and more deliberation be given to the subject before proceeding with the said Committee, said, that he could not understand why the right hon. Gentleman opposite (the Secretary of State for the Home Department) had interfered with the ordinary course, and interposed between the House and the Motion of which he (Mr. Hopwood) had given Notice, unless it were for the indecent purpose—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "retary of State for the Home Department) had interfered with the ordinary course, and interposed between the House and the Motion of which he (Mr. Hopwood) had given Notice, unless it were for the indecent purpose—[ Interruption, and emphatic cries of \"Order!\" and \"Withdraw!\"] § MR. SPEAKER That is not a proper expression for the hon. and learned Member to use—— § MR. HOPWOOD I withdraw—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "he were found with a copy of such a paper as that in his pocket, he would be soundly flogged; and when he was at the University, he might have been rusticated for the same offence. He would like to read some of the opinions which the late Home Secretary gave on the subject years ago; but, of course, there was no greater master of the political morality of public men than the right hon. Gentleman. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/part-i", "section": "part-i", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "on is put. It is proposed to leave out all the words after the word \"endeavours,\" in line 10, to the word \"to,\" inline 13. The Question is, that the words \"procures or\" stand part of the Clause. § MR. CAVENDISH BENTINCK said, he had a right to ask Her Majesty's Government whether it was their intention to define the term \"common prostitute,\" and in common courtesy he was entitled to a reply. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/part-i", "section": "part-i", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": " being asked. He was informed that this kind of practice was carried on very extensively; and if that were so, it seemed to him that it ought to be met by the strongest action of the law. It was the worst kind of brothel life he could conceive. If, on the other hand, the report 608 was untrue, he admitted that the clause was mere brutum fulmen. He heard the other day—a friend of his had told him —"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/jul/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/jul/30/part-i", "section": "part-i", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "ight hon. Gentleman was not fully aware of the depth of the depravity of human nature, notwithstanding his experience in the Home Office, which was a great place for becoming familiar with it—but, as he was saying, a friend of his, a Member of the house of Commons, had told him that a short time ago one of his constituents had related this circumstance to him. A relation of his—a niece or cousin— "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/12/navy-state-of-the-navy-notice-of-motion", "section": "navy-state-of-the-navy-notice-of-motion", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\" and \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "ED Will the Prime Minister allow me to ask him another Question on this subject? The terms of my Motion are not in the form of a Vote of Censure on the Government, but only of a Vote of Censure on a Department of the Administration; and 888 it seems to me that we have some claim to bring before the House the views which, after care and consideration, we hold on this subject. I should have thought—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/12/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "e correct, was he wrong in saying that the hon. Member for Wexford (Mr. W. Redmond) was begging the whole question. The meaning of the word \"National\" was this. It was generally associated with attempts on the part of a people who had been struggling under penal laws, persecution, and confiscation to make themselves free, their progenitors having been engaged in a similar undertaking before them. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/12/class-v-foreign-and-colonial-services", "section": "class-v-foreign-and-colonial-services", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "n opportunity of bringing forward the question he had been met by jeers from 949 hon. Gentlemen occupying seats below the Gangway on the Ministerial side of the House; but he thought that, judging from what had transpired in the past, and from what was transpiring now, the Committee and the country would agree that his hon. Friend had been persistently right in that portion of his foreign policy. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/12/class-v-foreign-and-colonial-services", "section": "class-v-foreign-and-colonial-services", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "evious Government, did the country much good, and he did not think that the noble Earl had done this Liberal Government much good as Colonial Secretary. All he (Mr. Onslow) could say was, reading history as he did, and knowing a little of the Colonial and Foreign policy of this country, that if they had had such men in the past as in the present, they never could have made the Empire what it was. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/12/class-vi-non-effective-and-charitable", "section": "class-vi-non-effective-and-charitable", "cue_text": "Laughter, and \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "nued, it was not unfrequently the case that towards the close Members of the Liberal Party got disgusted with the business, and put pressure on their Leaders to bring the wrangle to a close. Moreover, the officers of the House found their health ruined by these arrangements, and the result was a general cave in all along the line. Well, he (Mr. Healy) was always in favour of amicable arrangements—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/18/boroughs-to-cease-as-such", "section": "boroughs-to-cease-as-such", "cue_text": "Sir GEORGE CAMPBELL: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": " explain that what I understood my hon. Friend to say, and what I cheered, was not that the Bill was bad and unequal, but that the new scheme of distribution brought in by the Lord Advocate increased the existing inequalities and did not decrease them. § MR. TREVELYAN Then the remark which the hon. Member cheered was practically that the scheme of the Lord Advocate proceeded on no principle. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/18/boroughs-to-cease-as-such", "section": "boroughs-to-cease-as-such", "cue_text": "Several hon. MEMBERS: No, no!", "preceding_text": "E CAMPBELL I did not catch your last observation, Sir. THE CHAIRMAN The hon. Member's speech has been unusually discursive. I did not interrupt him once or twice when I ought to have done so; but I really now must say that he must confine himself to the Question. § SIR GEORGE CAMPBELL said, he would not further allude to the Hawick Burghs, but would refer for a moment to the Dumfries Burghs. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/30/observations-1", "section": "observations-1", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "R IRELAND (Mr. WALKER) said, if it would please the hon. Member for the City of Cork, he would give an instance. On the 20th September, 1880, he said— Lord Macaulay exactly describes the treatment I have received. True justice was meted out thus—first, execution; then, investigation; and last of all (or rather not at all) the accusation. That was a sample of the way in which this gentleman wrote. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/30/class-i-public-works-and-buildings", "section": "class-i-public-works-and-buildings", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No; humorous.\"", "preceding_text": "stened patiently to the remarks of the hon. Member, and all he had ventured to say was that other persons might have their opinions as well as the hon. Gentleman. The hon. Member said that anything he (Sir Patrick 1058 O'Brien) might say at that time of night would be futile. § MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT No; humorous. § SIR PATRICK O'BRIEN said, that as he had caught the word it was \"futile.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/mar/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/mar/30/class-i-public-works-and-buildings", "section": "class-i-public-works-and-buildings", "cue_text": "A laugh .", "preceding_text": "tter. If they wanted any evidence of that, he thought they had it in the fact of the accession to the Government of the hon. Gentleman the Under Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. H. H. Fowler). He believed that hon. Gentleman had been the cause of the shifting of the incidence of taxation for the Metropolitan Police Courts, and he was quite certain that the promise of the Government—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/representation-of-the-people-ireland-act", "section": "representation-of-the-people-ireland-act", "cue_text": "Cries of No!\" \"Oh!\" and \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "e; and whether he would take steps to protect such officials as took such instructions and acted upon them? MR. CAMPBELL-BANNRRMAN Final instructions cannot be issued until after the passing of the Seats Bill . Meanwhile, I will see whether there is any misunderstanding. § MR. HARRINGTON said, that as this was a very important matter, perhaps the House would allow him to make an explanation. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/ministerial-statement", "section": "ministerial-statement", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": " the railway to Berber was undertaken as a military work in support of that operation, and, indeed, 156 at the time it was considered a necessary part of it. With the relinquishment of the intention to advance upon Khartoum neither of these objects will be prosecuted. There is, however, no intention of evacuating Suakin until an arrangement can be made for holding it by some other civilized Power."}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/ministerial-statement", "section": "ministerial-statement", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\" and cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "rate the troops at any given point. § MR. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT I wish to ask the noble Marquess a question of some importance. The noble Marquess on a previous occasion described the policy which he has just explained to the House as a new departure, a new step of the most momentous and most disgraceful character. I wish to ask the noble Marquess whether he now wishes to withdraw that statement? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/egypt-war-in-the-soudan-suakin", "section": "egypt-war-in-the-soudan-suakin", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "will hold with regard to those at Suakin. § COLONEL KING-HARMAN asked as to where the friendly Natives would be brought to? 166 THE MARQUESS OF HARTINGTON I am afraid I am not in a position yet to say. § MR. ONSLOW Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether Russia has given to Her Majesty's Government any guarantee that when the boundary is once fixed, she will not overstep that boundary? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ompany that with the expression of our opinion that no Supplies which this House can vote will be sufficient for the defence of the Empire so long as the present Government have the handling of its affairs. The Prime Minister thinks the Resolution is not strong enough. I agree with him. I say that no Resolution is strong enough to censure the conduct of the Government during the last five months. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Mr. GLADSTONE: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": " what he says. But the present Prime Minister never means what he says, and ho can always explain afterwards that ho did not exactly intend what was the natural inference from his language. [\"Hear!\" and murmurs on the Ministerial side. ] Can hon. Members opposite tell me of one single question of policy on which the Prime Minister's action has in any way been in accord with his election speeches? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Sir WILLIAM HARCOURT: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "e thus acts on questions affecting merely internal affairs he can, comparatively, do little harm; but when he appeals, in the name of the English people, to the civilized world, and makes use of language which leads everybody to think he meant war, and when, a week afterwards, he recants his views, he does irreparable harm to the national character for integrity of speech and the national honour. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\" and \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_text": " in the name of the English people, to the civilized world, and makes use of language which leads everybody to think he meant war, and when, a week afterwards, he recants his views, he does irreparable harm to the national character for integrity of speech and the national honour. [Sir WILLIAM HARCOURT: Hear, hear!] Honesty of speech may be a matter which has no fascination for the Home Secretary—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "any portion of this money is to be applied to the more rapid extension of those railways? Perhaps it might be found necessary to go further, and to extend the railway to the fortifications of the Helmund. Unless we now back up our intentions by resolute action, war will ensue in a short time. I daresay I shall be told that in making observations such as these we show that we are in favour of war. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\" and cries of \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "nd injurious consequences to the country which must result from him allowing his personal opinion to prevail over his Party allegiance. It is a matter of notoriety that in the past Liberals have acted upon that principle, and have time after time voted contrary to their consciences, and that they have suppressed speeches which they would have made for fear of giving offence to the Prime Minister. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Yes!\" and \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "idering what was then in the knowledge of the Government, he would not pronounce one way or the other. We thought we had a case which required explanation. We had demanded explanation; but we did not presume to say what the result of that explanation would be. I go further, and say the central point of my right hon. Friend's speech was that \"the book could not be closed.\" Has the book been closed—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Opposition laughter", "preceding_text": "omplains that since the prospect of a settlement has improved, the Government have recalled—as he prefers to put it—Sir Peter Lumsden. Now, as has been already stated by my noble Friend the Secretary of State for War, it is not a recall in any sense injurious to the reputation of Sir Peter Lumsden. But we have thought that the object of his Mission has been, to a considerable extent, accomplished—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Lord GEORGE HAMILTON: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "le Lord does not say what he would have done; he says he is a friend of peace. We have an indication in the language which he has uttered to-night of what he and his Friends would have done in our place. He repeats again the old story of the conduct of Russia in times past. He leads us to infer that, in his opinion, at all events, Russia is a Power with which no trustworthy agreement can be made. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Opposition cheers.", "preceding_text": "rse pursued in the Soudan— Has rendered it imperatively necessary, in the interests of the British Empire and of the Egyptian people, that Her Majesty's Government should distinctly recognize, and take decided measures to fulfil, the special responsibility now incumbent on them to assure a good and stable Government to Egypt and to those portions of the Soudan which are necessary to its security. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "lt of the diplomacy of Her Majesty's Government, is an object of which the great bulk of the people of this nation will most heartily approve. § MR. CHAPLIN Sir, the hon. Member opposite has again imputed to Gentlemen on this side of the House a charge that he brought against the Opposition on a former occasion—namely, that we are anxious to bring about a war between this country and Russia. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "say that this has been an almost intolerable tax upon the patience of the House—a severe trial of endurance to hon. Gentlemen on this side of the House. We have gone on in this way for many months, and I can assure the right hon. Gentleman the Prime Minister that many of us on this side have had grave doubts how far we were justified in continuing to maintain this attitude of silence and reserve. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Time!\" and interruption.", "preceding_text": "aria, and the Christian populations in Turkey, would then look to Austria and not to Russia as their protector, and, in fact, Russia would place herself at the mercy of Austria. Would any Russian statesman consent to sacrifice the influence of Russia in the East, and possibly in Constantinople itself, for the chance of gaining Afghanistan? Perhaps he might be allowed to explain the frontier line. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "his, as on other occasions, of being the War Party; but in this they are really allowing themselves to be carried away by an unhappy and unfortunate amount of violent and blinded partizan prejudice. Observe how they totally misconstrue every expression which falls from Members on this side of the House. The hon. Member for the Islands of Orkney (Mr. Laing) and the Chairman of the Brighton Eailway—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Laughter, and \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " the Government from Office?\" The right hon. Gentleman has totally avoided saying anything of the kind, and he declares that it is the insufficiency of information—and the insufficiency of information alone—upon which he founds his support of the Vote. That is a glaring contradiction indicating the community of sentiment which prevails between the right hon. Gentleman and those with whom he acts. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ea of interposing the slightest obstacle in the way of the Vote we had then proposed. Such is the history of the question as far as regards the terms of this very remarkable Motion. And now, Sir, it has been said that in the time of the late Government their hands were weakened by hostile attacks and criticisms upon their policy. All that is perfectly true. It was a necessity lamented at the time—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "t obstacle in the way of the Vote we had then proposed. Such is the history of the question as far as regards the terms of this very remarkable Motion. And now, Sir, it has been said that in the time of the late Government their hands were weakened by hostile attacks and criticisms upon their policy. All that is perfectly true. It was a necessity lamented at the time—[\"Oh!\"]—lamented at the time. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "do you supply the defect? You supply it by putting forward a series of suppositions, every one of which, so far as you are able to show, is absolutely baseless. You say that everything has been surrendered to Russia in what you term a lamentable fiasco. Of that you know nothing whatever. You say it is a base surrender to Russia to carry on negotiations in London instead of on the Afghan Frontier. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: How long will she keep it?", "preceding_text": "haracter of a swindler and owning to the character of a bankrupt. What do hon. Gentlemen mean when they say they are not friends of war, when, at the same time, they indulge in this most unwise and most unjustifiable language? If we are to have a frontier to Afghanistan—that is, a frontier between Afghanistan and Russia, are we, or are we not, to have an engagement with Russia with respect to it? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/third-reading", "section": "third-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Question!\" and \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " he found himself face to face with a Cabinet, one-half of whom were Lords or expected to be Lords. This was the state of things which had been brought about because a number of hon. Gentlemen below the Gangway, who were supposed to exercise considerable influence over the Ministry and the Liberal Party, refrained from giving expression to their real opinions, and allowed themselves to be choked. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/11/third-reading", "section": "third-reading", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "large, and as a necessary consequence the force of public opinion would run a risk of being entirely miscalculated. Although that was a considerable danger, a matter still more to be deplored was the prospect of the absence of that element of independence which had characterized the House of Commons in the past, and which with a better system might have been still further developed in the future. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/12/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Name!\"", "preceding_text": "to Paris would be little more than that from London to Liverpool. It is, however, quite needless to enlarge on these advantages of the Channel Tunnel as the crowning enterprize of an age of vast engineering works. Its accomplishment is to be desired from every point of view; and should it be successful, it will be as beneficent in its results as the other great triumph of the science of our time. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/12/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: What date?", "preceding_text": "is, however, quite needless to enlarge on these advantages of the Channel Tunnel as the crowning enterprize of an age of vast engineering works. Its accomplishment is to be desired from every point of view; and should it be successful, it will be as beneficent in its results as the other great triumph of the science of our time. [ Cries of \"Name!\"] The extract he had read was from The Daily News. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/12/consideration", "section": "consideration", "cue_text": "Opposition cheers", "preceding_text": "ore to be denied than the diurnal motions of the sun, that those efforts were steadily, and no doubt conscientiously, resisted by hon. Gentlemen opposite, and that, in consequence, we have never been able, never been allowed, to appoint a Grand Committee without its being made a subject of contest afresh. But what happened in connection with the Grand Committees? We have done, I must Bay, nothing—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/12/consideration", "section": "consideration", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Name!\"", "preceding_text": " amended, very few undergraduates would get upon the Register, because, coming up to the University at the age of 18, they very frequently changed their rooms or lodgings; that to exclude people in statu pupillari from the franchise would be to keep out people who ought to have the vote; that the political results would be very doubtful, and that the change would not be detrimental to discipline. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/12/consideration", "section": "consideration", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: You can appeal.", "preceding_text": " the Tower Hamlets (Mr. Bryce) were in such a position that if they were to misconduct themselves the visitor of their College could turn them out, neck and crop, without any appeal whatever. He thought he was right in saying that the authorities of the Universities and of the Colleges had power to dispossess a man at a moment's notice. The Fellow or Head was by no means a freeholder of property. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/12/consideration", "section": "consideration", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "that from the Heads of the Colleges down to the lowest clerk no one in the University possessed the status which entitled him to be put upon the Register of the town. But that was a very different thing from what might occur under the Revising Barristers. He thought something had been said to-night about the incompetence of those gentlemen, and he had heard it said that some were not over-honest. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/12/consideration", "section": "consideration", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " and that nothing could be more unfair than to qualify a special class and disqualify the rest. He should, for these reasons, certainly vote against this Amendment. § MR. HEALY said, the effect of the last Amendment being, as he understood, to disqualify undergraduates in England, he wished to know whether the Government would apply the same principle to the case of the Irish undergraduates? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/14/the-queens-message", "section": "the-queens-message", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "a servant of Her Majesty, to ask the House to pass these Acts to enable Her Majesty to hold property, and to leave property, if Her Majesty did not hold property and had property to leave. I believe the Civil List is far too high at the present time. At the lowest estimate, the Civil List and the allowances to Her Majesty and Members of the Royal Family exceed £700,000 per annual—perhaps £720,000—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/14/the-queens-message", "section": "the-queens-message", "cue_text": "Cries of\" Order!\"", "preceding_text": "circumstances connected with the Prince of Wales's recent visit to Ireland. Probably there will be another opportunity of doing so. I only allude to it now as an illustration of the purposes to which the money granted by Parliament to the Royal Family may occasionally be devoted; and I must say that, up to this moment, no intelligible motive has ever been assigned for that Royal visit to Ireland. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/14/the-queens-message", "section": "the-queens-message", "cue_text": "Cries of \" Order!\"", "preceding_text": "eople who do not believe in English Royalty, and that the time has come when, on behalf of the people we represent, we should speak out; for if we did not do so we should be properly looked upon as hypocrites. In Ireland we have had very little experience of Royalty. But a very short time ago we had a visit from a Member of the Royal Family, and what was the impression we derived from that visit? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/14/the-queens-message", "section": "the-queens-message", "cue_text": "Cries of \" Order!\"", "preceding_text": "gland—who themselves, I believe, do not care the snuff of a candle about Eoyalty—that there 510 is only one English Member in this House calling himself a Radical who has the common honesty and the straightforwardness to stand up and speak his mind on this question. It will convey to the working classes the perfect uselessness and the hollowness of the Radical Party below the Ministerial Gangway. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/14/the-queens-message", "section": "the-queens-message", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "it will not be merely to protest, against the impositions of a Budget; but it will be to protest against the existence of that machinery of Government which robs the people of their money and keeps them in starvation. It will be to tear down this building upon the heads of the House of Commons, and to march into Downing Street in a way which the right hon. Gentleman has been little accustomed to. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/14/consideration-adjourned-debate", "section": "consideration-adjourned-debate", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "e of England. If the law of Ireland were assimilated with that of England, he maintained that an Irish town containing 3,000 inhabitants was of as much importance as an English town containing 10,000 inhabitants. This alteration in the law would be quite as advantageous to the Conservatives as to the Liberals. § MR. LEWIS said, there were 34 counties in Ireland. § MR. SEXTON Thirty-two. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/21/resolution-adjourned-debate", "section": "resolution-adjourned-debate", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "ty is that we have made various and serious errors—but not one of those difficulties was of our own creation. In our policy we have never made claim to an ambitious foreign policy; we have endeavoured to cope, as we could, with the circumstances which we found. I rejoice to say in many cases we have succeeded; but I admit there are other cases in which success is either far distant or incomplete. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/21/resolution-adjourned-debate", "section": "resolution-adjourned-debate", "cue_text": "Laughter, and \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "ittle information was given, and so slowly, as recently. I have never known a time when so much information was given, and so rapidly. Looking back at the last few weeks, and at the pressure which has been brought to bear upon us to produce some part of the Russian Correspondence, my impression is that perhaps the public interest might have been better served if we had maintained greater reserve. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/21/resolution-adjourned-debate", "section": "resolution-adjourned-debate", "cue_text": "Mr. ASHMEAD-BARTLETT: Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "the argument that I saw a few days ago in a daily paper of great influence and ability, which I will not name, because I think that it is very seldom that it writes such folly and nonsense. But that article, deliberately founded on this principle, illustrated and dilated and expanded this proposition—that the Government of this country was so weak that the Russian Government had only to persevere—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1885/may/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1885/may/21/resolution-adjourned-debate", "section": "resolution-adjourned-debate", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": " Bosphore Egyptien was the appearance in it of an incendiary Proclamation from the Mahdi, and that the publication of such matter as the paper contained could not be tolerated. Nothing could be stronger or plainer than that; in fact, the advice of both Sir Evelyn Baring and Lord Lyons was that the newspaper should be suppressed. That suppression received the deliberate sanction of the Government. "}