{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/aug/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/aug/08/consideration-1", "section": "consideration-1", "cue_text": "Ministerial laughter .", "preceding_text": "oped he never should. But one of them had been voted against by no fewer than 190 Members on the ground of words quoted from him throwing contempt on the Irish people. Mr. Arnold Forster had complained of the attack made on Irishmen by this learned Judge in the Belfast Commission. It was, therefore, not a Commission to 27 inspire confidence. He, for one, believed—although he knew nothing about it—"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Yes.", "preceding_text": "han himself exactly what the Vote should be. In his opinion, to reduce the Vote even by a small sum would mean a great deal more than the right hon. Gentleman said, because the effect of the Vote would be to declare that the position of Scotch Business was due to the bad administration of the Government in that House. He asked whether the present state of Business applied to Scotch Business only. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "Cheers; and an hon. MEMBER: Quite so.", "preceding_text": "majority of Scotch Members. On the other hand, he maintained that constantly on great Party Bills, the Liberal majority which carried those Bills had been made up by English Members. That was a very important matter, and it was one which he thought they were bound to remember—namely, 1817 that this grievance applied to every locality in the community; it was a necessity which came from the Union. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Three months.", "preceding_text": "risonment. Since the sentence was passed a person of the name of M'Leod had come forward, and volunteered the confession that he was the person who took part in the riot, and that Matheson was not there at all, and upon that confession the Crown put him on his trial for taking part in the riot. He admitted his guilt, and received a sentence of six months' imprisonment, which he was now undergoing—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "ns were from persons themselves incriminated, and one was from Matheson's sister. § DR. CLARK said, that in order to verify the statement of the Lord Advocate the correspondence between the Marquess of Lothian and the friends of Matheson should be laid upon the Table. It was necessary that they should know whether or not the Lord Advocate had made statements utterly the reverse of the truth. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "n the habit of holding out against the majority of the Irish Members; and there was the circumstance that, finally, the individual charged with the conduct of Scotch Business in this House wound up with a deliberate insult to the whole people of Scotland. He gathered that the real objection to doing justice in this matter was to avoid throwing a slur upon the packed jury which convicted Matheson. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/supply-report", "section": "supply-report", "cue_text": "Cries of dissent and \"Buckshot!\"", "preceding_text": "He had never been quite able to understand why Inspector Irwin was made the particular pet of hon. Gentlemen opposite, for there could be no doubt whatever that he was the man who gave the least justifiable order, if any unjustifiable order was given at all, which he did not admit, the order given by Inspector Irwin was unjustifiable, or the least justifiable, because it was the last order given. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/supply-report", "section": "supply-report", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\" and cries of \"They will continue to refuse.\"", "preceding_text": "ad been brought up in custody, that they did not give evidence, and they were remanded again and again, and taken back from whence they were brought. But who was to blame for this when the prisoners refused to give evidence? It was a legal inquiry held under Section I. of the Act. The men were capable of giving evidence, but they refused, and their conduct was applauded by hon. Gentlemen opposite "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/supply-report", "section": "supply-report", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear,\" and cries of \"Not all.\"", "preceding_text": " police constable or several police constables. Again he could see no illegality in that, and really could not see what there was to complain of in one person assisting another, both living in London, to put his evidence into shape. How was it, asked the hon. Member for West Belfast, all these members of the Force were in London. Well, they were there becase they had been subpoenaed by The Times. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/supply-report", "section": "supply-report", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Send them back then", "preceding_text": "they had been subpoenaed by The Times. [\"Hear, hear,\" and cries of \"Not all.\"] The hon. Member appeared to be of opinion that it was in accordance with his desire that these members of the Force should continue in London; but he could assure the hon. Member, and those who appeared to agree with the hon. Member, that the absence of these officers was extremely inconvenient to the Irish Government. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/11/supply-report", "section": "supply-report", "cue_text": "Here the hon. Member produced part of the broken staff.", "preceding_text": "dy they met. The right hon. Gentleman sat and smiled as Members talked of the actions of the Constabulary, but he should have liked the right hon. Gentlemen to have seen what he saw that night. He saw an old woman endeavouring to escape struck on the back by a policeman with his baton—the baton broke under the blow. Here was the baton broken with the force of the blow on the back of an old woman. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/egypt-the-siege-of-suakin", "section": "egypt-the-siege-of-suakin", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "he hon. Baronet can use his influence with these gentlemen, I should advise him to exercise that influence, in order that the attack upon Suakin may be withdrawn. § SIR WILFRID LAWSON complained that the right hon. Gentleman had made no sort of answer to his Question. He had asked him whether he would give orders to the authorities in Egypt to enter into negotiations with 101 these gentlemen—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/egypt-the-siege-of-suakin", "section": "egypt-the-siege-of-suakin", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Black men", "preceding_text": " the attack upon Suakin may be withdrawn. § SIR WILFRID LAWSON complained that the right hon. Gentleman had made no sort of answer to his Question. He had asked him whether he would give orders to the authorities in Egypt to enter into negotiations with 101 these gentlemen—[ Laughter ]—gentlemen the right hon. Gentleman (Mr. W. H. Smith) had called them, but they were generally called rebels—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/service-of-a-summons-on-mr-sheehyin-the", "section": "service-of-a-summons-on-mr-sheehyin-the", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Speak up\"", "preceding_text": " be the opinion of the House, he felt confident of one thing—namely, that the House would not consider the Committee went too far in regard to the Breach of its Privileges. He thought it would be convenient in every way that the approval and concurrence of the House should be signified and entered on the Journals of the House. Looking at the Report it would be found that Committees of this nature "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/service-of-a-summons-on-mr-sheehyin-the", "section": "service-of-a-summons-on-mr-sheehyin-the", "cue_text": "\"No!\" and cheers.", "preceding_text": "e hon. Member for Bedford (Mr. Whitbread), one of the oldest and most experienced Members of the House, then came forward and took the usual, and he ventured to say, the Parliamentary course in the matter, and proposed to vindicate the Privileges of the House. Then not the Leader of the House, but the Chief Secretary for Ireland got up and denounced the conclusions at which the Committee arrived. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/service-of-a-summons-on-mr-sheehyin-the", "section": "service-of-a-summons-on-mr-sheehyin-the", "cue_text": "Mr. A. J. BALFOTTR: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "ed, it was the duty of the House, upon the Motion of the hon. Member for Bedford, to determine whether it agreed with the First Lord of the Treasury, the Home Secretary, and the Solicitor General for England, or with the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant. The right hon. Gentleman the Chief Secretary declared that though what had happened was not a Breach of Privilege, it was highly improper. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/supply-navy-estimates", "section": "supply-navy-estimates", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "ly people who do not know this state of affairs are the British public, and it is better for them to have this question brought before them publicly, and dinned into their ears in times of peace, than it is for them to pay the penalty which they would have to pay if unprepared in time of war. \"We are now so nearly level with France that if we were to lose three ironclads we might lose our Empire. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/supply-navy-estimates", "section": "supply-navy-estimates", "cue_text": "Admiral FIELD: Oh, oh!", "preceding_text": " Service, he was bound to say he did not think they were best adapted for carrying out manufacturing arrangements in the Dockyards. He thought that, above all things, so far as manufacture in the Dockyards was concerned, it would be a mistake to put a professional man at the head of a practical manufacturing Department, for the change would bring about a worse instead of a better state of things. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/supply-navy-estimates", "section": "supply-navy-estimates", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "hat all the wealth we have accumulated may be destroyed if we lose our first line of defence. The Lord Mayor had gone on to say 197 that Her Majesty's Government would be heartily supported by the people in any measures they proposed for bringing about the more perfect security of the country, provided the money was well spent. Well, naval men did not want money wasted. They were born economists. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/supply-navy-estimates", "section": "supply-navy-estimates", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: In 10 years.", "preceding_text": "he building of her ships; but it was rather a significant fact, and one which it behoved us to bear in mind, that Germany, who had nothing to fear from naval attack, and whom we looked upon as a warm friend, was enormously developing her naval resources. Not satisfied with her annual expenditure on the Navy, Germany had voted £5,840,000 for the building of 28 new battle ships and of new cruisers. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/supply-navy-estimates", "section": "supply-navy-estimates", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Four—there is the Controller.", "preceding_text": "statement went quite far enough. He had with him a bundle of opinions expressed by eminent officers who were almost worshipped and idolised in the Navy—such men as Sir Thomas Symonds, Sir Spencer Robinson, Sir Geoffrey Hornby, and others, whose advice it was safe for the country to follow—within limits. According to the naval Colleagues of the First Lord of the Admiralty, of whom there were three—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/supply-navy-estimates", "section": "supply-navy-estimates", "cue_text": "ADMIRAL FIELD: Oh!", "preceding_text": "eable than they were. In the first place, some competent persons thought that it was a mistake that any specification for ships or engines should come from the Admiralty at all; they thought that the builders should make their own specifications, 205 and be absolutely responsible for them when the ships were taken over. They also thought that no ships should be built in Government Yards whatever. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/supply-navy-estimates", "section": "supply-navy-estimates", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: She would break down.", "preceding_text": "hey should get their money's worth; and the only way of obtaining it was by trying what they were going to buy; and his suggestion was that the ships of H.M. Navy, before they were absolutely paid for, should be sent on a trial trip to Malta and back, at full speed with forced driving. When that trial-had been successfully passed, the country would be in possession of a ship fit for H.M. Service. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/13/supply-navy-estimates", "section": "supply-navy-estimates", "cue_text": "The CHAIRMAN: Order, order!", "preceding_text": "e of this distinguished Gentleman. He found that the hon., learned, and gallant Gentleman directed works, the Packet Service, the Civil affairs of Greenwich Hospital, Dockyards, schools, education, seamen's libraries, Naval Inspections, and last, but not least, he absolutely took care of the chaplains. Of course the hon., learned, and gallant Gentleman, who was a descendant of the Pilgrim Fathers—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/14/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ey did not lose their Sunday dinners because of the opening of those clubs, but they lost their dinners in consequence of the public-houses at their own doors being open; and that 299 seemed to him to be the practical view to take. He feared that the governing classes of this country did not thoroughly understand and appreciate the wants of those who were farther removed from them in social rank. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/14/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: In India.", "preceding_text": "r temperance views by giving an absolutely barren vote on the Bill of his hon. Friend. The great negotiator on this subject was his hon. Friend the Member for Barrow-in-Furness (Mr. Caine), who voted against what he had formerly advocated because he had bargained away his vote, and who brought his hon. Friend behind him and others into the Lobby with him. Where was the hon. Member for Barrow now? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/14/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "use of Lords. At that time, however, there were no local councils. Would the Welsh Act have been passed if there had been a majority of Welsh Members opposed to it? It was passed for Wales because there was in that country a consensus of opinion in favour of its being passed. The present Bill was for England; and he very much doubted whether a majority of the English Members were in favour of it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/14/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "as not their business, immediately after having created those County Councils, to trench upon what they had asserted to be their attributes; their desire was that their powers should be greater than they were. In voting for the proposal of his hon. Friends, they would be making a direct attack upon the principle of local self-government. He should vote against the Bill, as a teetotaller, himself. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/21/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Loud, Cries of \"Aye!\"", "preceding_text": " objections why this sum of public money should be granted? Am I to understand that on a question of the employment of a man who has been charged as a swindler and a thief— THE CHAIRMAN I cannot argue with the hon. Member. I have decided that the point he has raised is not in Order on this Clause. The Question is, \"That this Clause stand part of the Bill.\" As many as are of that opinion say \"Aye\"—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/21/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "re the Committee is whether certain sums of money shall or 980 shall not be appropriated by law to certain purposes. That is the only point, and to that point any observations of the hon. Member must be addressed. § DR. TANNER That being the case of course I shall—because, as I have already shown, I do not like to enter into any controversy with a salaried officer of Her Majesty's Government—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/21/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "The CHAIRMAN: Order, order!", "preceding_text": "g the case of course I shall—because, as I have already shown, I do not like to enter into any controversy with a salaried officer of Her Majesty's Government—[ Cries of \"Order!\"] I believe I am perfectly in Order in saying that. If I am wrong the Chairman can call me to Order, and not the salaried officers of the Crown who sit below the Gangway, and who ought to know better than to interrupt me. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/21/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "iated. § DR. TANNER I beg to move a reduction of Schedule B. I for one am of opinion that in the state of affairs in which we are at present landed by Her Majesty's Government, through the horrid and iniquitous manner of proceeding which is their leading and chief characteristic in dealing with any unfortunate people with whom they may happen to come in contact, whether, it be Sir John Gorst—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/dec/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/dec/21/committee", "section": "committee", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Aye!\"", "preceding_text": "OR OF THE EXCHEQUER (Mr. GOSCHEN) (St. George's, Hanover Square) Then, Sir, I have to move that Dr. Tanner be suspended from the service of the House. § Motion made, and Question proposed, \"That Dr. Tanner be suspended from the service of the House.\"—( Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer. ) § MR. CONYBEARE On the question of Order, Sir— THE CHAIRMAN As many as are of that opinion say \"Aye.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "evious evening, and to thank him, not only for the generous sympathy running through his speech, but more especially for the high level at which he opened and maintained the debate during his remarks. The hon. and gallant Member for North Armagh (Colonel Saunderson) had made what he (Mr. Ellis) had no doubt was felt by hon. Members opposite to be a very effective contribution to any Party debate. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "Sir ROBERT FOWLER: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": " pressure on the hon. and gallant Member for North Armagh to restrain his remarks of a provocative character, so that they might not during this Session be led into any of the painful scenes which were due primarily to the hon. and gallant Member last year. In one part of the hon. and gallant Member's speech he endeavoured to connect a particular murder with a local branch of the National League. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "Laughter .\"", "preceding_text": "ently approved of the course taken by the hon. and gallant Member; but the hon. and gallant Member absolutely failed to connect the two together, for the very good reason, as pointed out by the hon. Member for the St. Patrick's Division of Dublin (Mr. Murphy), that there was no local branch in existence at that time, the local branch of the National League which had been in existence having died. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: It was not Sir Robert Hamilton.", "preceding_text": "elpless nature of the Irish, and has partly contributed to prolong that helplessness. A hateful system of bureaucratic government is the result—hateful in itself and only rendered tolerable in my time by the large-minded-ness and fairness, as well as industry and skill, of the eminent man who then filled the post of Permanent Under Secretary. 486 What had the Government done with that individual? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Oh, oh!", "preceding_text": " he mean to say that there was evidence, if the evidence had been presented in the proper way? § MR. MADDEN said, he did intend to say that. There were five cases tried, but separately tried. That was to say, each person accused had the benefit of a separate trial. The evidence was given in the first of the cases, but it was not separately given and reduced to writing in the following cases. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "e only persons who strove to prolong the life of suppressed branches were the secretaries and other paid officials who were making their livelihood out of it. § MR. EDWARD HARRINGTON (Kerry, W.) There are no paid officials. § COLONEL KING-HARMAN said, that there was not a branch of the National League in which there was not some secretary or paid official who was making money out of it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Name!\"", "preceding_text": "at heart of the people\" was not on the side of disorder and lawlessness. His correspondent concluded as follows:— An unmistakable feeling pervades the whole country that at last the Government of the Queen is stronger than any mere local associations, and the people are beginning to feel confidence that the Government can establish security, as every Government of a civilized country ought to do. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Where?\" \"What Unions?\"", "preceding_text": "ally bankrupt. The Guardians spent their time in talking politics and in passing seditious resolutions against the Government, and against anybody who did not happen to agree with them, while the poor were neglected, and those who were in receipt of outdoor relief 509 could not get their money because the cheques of the Guardians were dishonoured by the bank through their accounts being overdrawn—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: He is one of them.", "preceding_text": "Ireland. He had always said, in every speech he had made on the subject, that the vast majority of the landlords of Ireland had done, or had tried to do, their duty; but a remnant of them had been criminals in the true sense of the word, by bringing destruction on thousands of men, women, and children; and the right hon. and gallant Gentleman never uttered a word of condemnation of their conduct. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ied for coercion and gave figures last year to show they required protection. Now, these gentlemen were bound to show that coercion had succeeded, and he had no doubt had gladly given evidence to Dublin Castle to the effect that their position was much better, in order that the right hon. Gentleman the Chief Secretary might have excellent figures to present to the House to justify coer- 517 cion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/feb/15", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/feb/15/criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "section": "criminal-law-and-procedure-ireland-act", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_text": "say \"I make no charge,\" leaving thereby the impression on the mind of the House that there is some connection between the name of that hon. Member and the charge? § MR. SPEAKER This is a matter not for the intervention of the Chair, but for the general judgment of the House. § SIR WALTER B. BARTTELOT I made no insinuation, nor did I even mention the hon. Member's name, further than this—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/12/part-i", "section": "part-i", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": " the District Councils and the County Councils, so that the elections for the District Councils should be held at the same time and manner as the County Councils. The right hon. Member for East Wolverhampton, and those who agreed with him, should remember that there were half-a-dozen polling districts set up in a county at great expense; whereas, in the boroughs, there was only one polling booth. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/12/part-i", "section": "part-i", "cue_text": "Several hon. MEMBERS: And the Aldermen.", "preceding_text": " withdraw the Amendment; but he trusted that the 1853 right hon. Gentleman would consider the question of the Aldermen in the meantime. § MR. W. H. SMITH said, it must be distinctly understood that the only matter he had undertaken on the part of the Government to consider was the term for which the Councils should be elected in the first instance, and the manner in which they should retire. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/12/part-i", "section": "part-i", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "elections for County Councils. The hon. Member for East Northamptonshire (Mr. Chan-fling) said he liked definite small local areas. Now, his answer to that was that definite small local areas would to a certainty return definite small local men; and just as it was found in county representation that large single-member districts, as a rule, returned large-minded men, with some exceptions opposite—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/12/part-i", "section": "part-i", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "se arguments he did not hear. He would like to make one appeal to the right hon. Gentleman the President of the Local Government Board. The right hon. Gentleman had told the Committee that the Government would adhere to their views. That was quite right, but Governments were eminently squeezable; and what he asked was, were hon. Members on these Benches free to vote as their consciences dictated? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/12/re-organizations-in-public-offices", "section": "re-organizations-in-public-offices", "cue_text": "cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "£1,000 a-year; there were nine Superintending Clerks, costing £7,019; and there were 16 Assistant Superintending Clerks, costing £9,679, together with one Inspector of Yard Accounts at £700 a-year, and one Assistant Inspector of Yard Accounts at £450, making a total of £22,548 a-year, now being paid by the nation chiefly for the work of superintendence which used to be performed for under £2,000. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/12/re-organizations-in-public-offices", "section": "re-organizations-in-public-offices", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "duced by 11, and the result of the reduction was a saving of £3,300 in salaries, but the amount spent in pensions was £5,500 a-year. In 1871 the Department had again crept up to £28,000 a-year, and, besides that, the whole of the pensions had to be paid into the bargain. That, he ventured to think, with all respect to the hon. Gentlemen below the Gangway, was rather an Irish way of re-organizing. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/12/re-organizations-in-public-offices", "section": "re-organizations-in-public-offices", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": "red. All that he and his hon. Friends wanted was efficiency in the Naval Service, and they maintained that the only way to administer the Navy efficiently was to get rid of a great many civilians, and replace them by gentlemen of naval experience. It would be much more economical for them all. Naval men desired to serve them for the honour of serving them, and not for the dirty pay they received. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "ce, and there was no means of providing the expenses necessary for 154 the fulfilment of their duties when they were carried out within the area of their election. But not only, in his opinion, if this principle were accepted, would it have naturally to be applied to most other local institutions, but it would also form a very strong argument in favour of its application to Members of Parliament. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Why not?", "preceding_text": "oposal was a very moderate one, and that only those who were willing to accept payment of their expenses should receive such payment. But it was impossible, if the principle of this Amendment were acknowledged, to say that a member should go in formâ pauperis to claim payment of his expenses. Therefore the legitimate outcome was that every member should be entitled to be paid his expenses. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "king that there were some who viewed this Bill with very great misgivings, and the right hon. Gentleman the President of the Local Government Board was accurate when he said that these misgivings were due to the fact that they foresaw a great addition to the burdens on the rates. It appeared to him that, if this Amendment were passed, it would only be a sample of what they might expect in future. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "arly the thin end of the wedge, and that they were only to look at this as the beginning of the proposal, and that if the principle were admitted not only County Councillors but Members of Parliament would have to be paid for their services. He trusted that this would be distinctly understood, not only inside the House, but that every ratepayer throughout the country would know what was going on. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "Ministerial cheers.", "preceding_text": "nces had been made to the workmen who had Representatives at the present time in the House of Commons. The hon. Gentleman the Member for the Ripon Division of Yorkshire (Mr. Wharton) declared that the Trades Unions of the North had their Representatives here, and he was good enough to say that the Members of the House were very glad to welcome those Representatives, and to have them amongst them. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "e appointment of the Magistracy. It is quite impossible where a power like this Council Council is established, which is to be representative of the public opinion of the county, that they will any longer tolerate the administration of Justice in counties being dependent on the nomination of the Lord Lieutenant. That power has been, and is at this time, so grossly abused that it must be reformed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "ber for Derby, but entirely and absolutely repudiated them. § SIR WILLIAM HARCOURT Perhaps it may relieve the anxiety of the noble Lord to inform him that I neither intended to, nor did I make an attack upon the administration of justice, though I attacked most strongly the method in which the county magistrates are appointed. § VISCOUNT CRANBORNE The right hon. Gentleman will pardon me—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "ith regard to the arrangements of the polling districts in 1885 to acquiesce in that statement. In placing this power in the hands of the Quarter Sessions, the Government were placing a temptation in the hands of gentlemen, who, individually and as a class, were specially interested, to arrange the polling districts so as to obtain a majority favourable to their views at the first County Council. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/jun/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/jun/14/county-councils", "section": "county-councils", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "w Her Majesty's Government expressed, and yet one of their first 209 operations in Committee was to give to the Quarter Sessions the duty of arranging the electoral districts, and to provide that there should be no right of appeal. In the constituency which he had the honour to represent, the Quarter Sessions had arranged, in their wisdom, polling places which had given universal dissatisfaction. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/may/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/may/10/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " there he buys on the wharf two or three trucks of English cattle. He then goes to the wharf, and there he buys two or three trucks of foreign cattle. Then the trucks of both are attached to the same train and sent to the same destination—Leeds, Sheffield, Chesterfield, or any other place; and the foreign cattle are carried for 30, 40, or it may be 50 per cent less charge than the English cattle. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/may/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/may/10/criminal-evidence-bill-bill-132", "section": "criminal-evidence-bill-bill-132", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "cussed for three or four hours on the second reading, and a direct Motion was made to exclude Ireland, that Motion being negatived. Again, the other night there was a debate of some hours, though it was true that, as a matter of form, the particular question was whether or not Scotland should be included, yet, as everybody knew, the arguments were as much or more addressed to the case of Ireland. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/may/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/may/17/civil-services", "section": "civil-services", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: £4.", "preceding_text": ". My hon. Friend opposite (Mr. Hunter) made a remark which struck me as a very remarkable one. He said the proprietors in Lewis had in the past taken 25 per cent of the gross earnings of the laud, and all the other earnings, to themselves. If that was the case, and if it be the fact, as has been stated over and over again in this Rouse, that the average payment to the landlord in Lewis is only £2—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/may/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/may/17/civil-services", "section": "civil-services", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "nd remain quiet whilst the protest was being made, because he knew, from circumstances which had preceded this occasion, that the police had received orders \"to bâton, but not to arrest.\" The Crown did not take the responsibility of arresting him on that occasion; but they did what they would not have dared to do in England, Scotland, or Wales—that was to say, they tried to break his head. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/may/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/may/17/civil-services", "section": "civil-services", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "rutal illegality. What happened on the occasion to which he was referring? He went into the Square, being perfectly content to do so, so far as he was personally concerned. He had, as he had said, told the people to be quiet and not to follow him; for if they did they would get into trouble. He had said—\"Stop there, and let me go on.\" He got to the centre of the Square, and there he was collared. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/may/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/may/17/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Certainly not.", "preceding_text": "right hon. Gentleman opposite had interpreted it. After taking a very active part officially on behalf of the trades of the country for 20 years, it was very difficult for him to compress his remarks into so short a period as was now allowed. However, he would contribute his share towards, if possible, closing the debate before 12 o'clock, if his hon. Friends would acquiesce in such an agreement. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/may/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/may/17/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Who 650 is the authority?", "preceding_text": " authority in the Metropolis had said with regard to this clause, and he would ask hon. Gentlemen who were interested in the subject from the standpoint in which he (Mr. Broadhurst) was interested in it to pay some attention to this. This authority said that this new departure—namely, this Clause 12—was evidently the result of the recommendation of the Royal Commission on the loss of life at sea. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/may/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/may/17/second-reading", "section": "second-reading", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "e must be a distinct Motion on that question, and the Government would put down the Motion to refer the Bill to either the Committee on Law or on Trade on the Monday after the Whitsuntide Holidays. § MR. JOHN MORLEY Are we to understand it is the wish of the Government that the Bill should be referred to the Committee on Law? § MR. W. H SMITH said, he was not quite prepared to say that. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/08/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: One-third.", "preceding_text": "o compare the reporters to \"swine,\" he might say that sometimes hon. Members \"cast their pearls before swine.\" It was considered desirable that there should be a fair report of what every Member said, whether he happened to talk sense or nonsense; and, if he remembered rightly, the Committee had laid down that a minimum proportion—he thought three-fourths—of what a Member said should be reported. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/08/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "tisfied that a number of Papers and Books might well be put in the short list, while there were in the short list Papers which ought to be in the hands of every hon. Member. He did not see why the Printing Committee should not look into the whole question of this official literature and its due distribution; but he did object to an expression of an opinion in a thin House on a Wednesday afternoon—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/08/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Of course they are.", "preceding_text": "give the Papers than the matter deserved. The case, as far as the Treasury and the Department of Woods and Forests were concerned, was extremely simple. He had listened most carefully to what had been said; but he had not yet learned in what sense the action of the Woods and 706 Forests Department had disposed of any rights of the public. The rights of the Crown were not the rights of the public. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/08/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: They are all in the Register Office.", "preceding_text": ", after his explanation, would feel that the reason he gave was a fairly proper one. In the first place, the ex adverse proprietors who had become the purchasers in this case—at least one of them—claimed certain rights which were more or less indisputable; and he was told that in the course of the Correspondence and negotiations which took place in confidence some of these disclosed their titles. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/08/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "A laugh .", "preceding_text": "nt interest; and he should like to test the Metropolitan Members to see which way they would vote. He now proposed to take a Division on this question by moving the reduction of the Vote by £633. Everybody who had had the opportunity of visiting the capital cities of Europe would see, as the hon Member for Northampton had mentioned, that everywhere the public were admitted into the Parks in cabs. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/08/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "poor were excluded from the use of the Park. § DR. TANNER said, that he might, perhaps, be allowed to point out that whilst poor children were allowed to go into the Parks on foot in order to recruit their health, there were numbers of invalids who left the large Metropolitan hospitals, who, with the same object, would like to drive through the Parks in cabs, but were not permitted to do so. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/08/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ed to see why they should set up upon a pedestal those who were wealthy or aristocratic enough to keep their own gigs. He would now ask the right hon. Gentleman the First Commissioner of Works to do what he could to enlighten him on one or two points on which he desired information. In the first place, he should like to have some information as to the item for the inspection of ancient monuments. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/08/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "em for the inspection of ancient monuments. [\"Oh, oh!\"] He was told that during his unavoidable absence his hon. Friend the senior Member for Northampton (Mr. Labouchere) had gone into that question. He (Mr. Conybeare) would not repeat what had been said, but would merely ask for a little information as to why they had five different Superintendents and Deputy Superintendents of Furniture. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/12/class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "section": "class-ii-salaries-and-expenses-of-civil", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: It was the noble Lord the Member for South Paddington (Lord Randolph Churchill).", "preceding_text": " a sum of £10,000 out of the Consolidated Fund. That sum of £10,000 had now been docked off. It was never denied that the money was spent by each political Party, when in power, for its own Party purposes. As each was tarred by the same brush the abuse was allowed to remain, until his right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Bury (Sir Henry James), with his stern independence, belled the cat. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/12/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": " hon. and learned Attorney General (Sir Richard Webster) rose to reply he desired, upon this Vote, to refer to a statement made by the right hon. Gentleman the Home Secretary (Mr. Matthews) that afternoon. He should be glad if the hon. and learned Gentleman would give the Committee, without fee, the advantage of his legal opinion on the point which he (Mr. Bradlaugh) had raised upon the Truck Act "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/12/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " into a controversy with the hon. Member for Poplar (Mr. Buxton) as to the utility of having so many Members in the Legal Profession in the House. It might be that there were too many of them; but he would submit to the hon. Member for Poplar that the legal Members of the House fulfilled a useful, though a humble, function. They were the hewers of wood and the drawers of water to the whole House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/12/class-iii-law-and-justice", "section": "class-iii-law-and-justice", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "en he found, as he did in 996 one case, that a summons was dismissed because the Prosecutor could not find about £40 costs, he felt an abuse existed; especially as Mr. Poland, he supposed, did not do the thing cheap, on the job, and it was a scandal that a prosecution should fail for a reason like that. What he asked was this—when prosecutions were undertaken by the Treasury or Joseph Chamberlain—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/16/class-iv-education-science-and-art", "section": "class-iv-education-science-and-art", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "REASURY (Mr. JACKSON) (Leeds, N.) said, be thought he could answer the hon. Gentleman's appeal in a manner which would be satisfactory to the hon. Gentleman. He would not go into the whole question whether there was an agreement to suspend the annual grant until such time as the amount spent upon the Blenheim pictures was covered. He thought, however, that practically there was such an agreement. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/16/bill-47-second-reading", "section": "bill-47-second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "R. SPEAKER If the hon. Member wishes to ask a question I do not think objection will be made to that, but against debate, of course, the objection holds good. § MR. ESSLEMONT said, if the House would extend its indulgence to him he had not the slightest intention of debating the Bill. He merely wished to ask the House to listen to a narration of the circumstances in which the Bill was placed—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/16/bill-47-second-reading", "section": "bill-47-second-reading", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "ntion of debating the Bill. He merely wished to ask the House to listen to a narration of the circumstances in which the Bill was placed—[\"Order, order!\"]—in order that he might put a question to the Government in regard to it. The circumstances were very exceptional. The Bill had been delayed from time to time in hope that the Government would offer an opportunity for bringing it forward. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/business-of-the-house", "section": "business-of-the-house", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: What Supply?", "preceding_text": "tee, as to the amount thought necessary for land purchase. I should hope, then, that we may be able to bring this business in Committee this evening to a conclusion. Then we should take the third reading to-morrow. After that we shall be under the necessity of asking the House to proceed at once with Supply. I should regret that we should be obliged to ask the House for a further Vote on Account. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Fourfifths.", "preceding_text": "ed, 347 and there was a provision for advances being made, but the two purposes were kept quite separate under the Act of 1881. Both that Act and the Act of 1885 put it into the power of the Commissioners, under certain circumstances, to purchase direct from the landlord the whole estate where they were satisfied that there was a fair proportion of tenants, he thought three-fourths or four-fifths—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Not beggars!\"", "preceding_text": "n Order if he were to go into the ease; but as the hon. Member had alluded to bogus tenancies the Committee should remember what class of tenants they were whose places these Protestant tenants took. They were well-to-do tenants. There was very little difference between the rent asked by the landlord and the rent fixed by the Plan of Campaign, and yet the tenants were now beggars on the roadside. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Why not?\"", "preceding_text": " be permitted, and it was with a view of preventing them that he had framed this clause. This was only one class of the transactions he had complained of. He had mentioned two other classes. In the first place, he had pointed out that tenancies above £5,000 in value had been broken up into two or more tenancies in order to enable the subdivided tenancies to come under the Act and obtain advances. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: It ought to be.", "preceding_text": "lue of the tenant right. But there was no case in Ireland of 30 years' purchase being given. It had not happened, and therefore he pointed out to the Committee that the injustice the Amendment was supposed to redress was not one that there was any reason to suppose existed. The whole basis of the Bill rested upon freedom of contract between landlord and tenant—it was the very essence of the Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "ction to tenant and taxpayer. § DR. CLARK (Caithness) said, it being now almost 2 o'clock, and many Members of the Committee asleep, he would ask how much longer it was intended to protract a Sitting that had now extended over 11 hours with the prospect of reassembling 10 hours later? Ten new clauses remained on the Paper, and would it not be wiser to leave them to be finished on the morrow? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh! oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ill—its position, and the Business remaining to be done in the short time remaining in which to do it. The hon. Gentleman himself was one of those who desired an early day for the discussion of Scotch Estimates, but how was it possible for the Government to comply with that wish, or, indeed, to give an early day for anything at all unless hon. Members would really make some sacrifice of rhetoric. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "maining Amendments he found, among others, one standing in the name of the hon. Member for East Bristol (Mr. Handel Cossham), which would have to be pressed most strongly on the attention of the Government. It was an Amendment restricting advances to judicial rents. With this and other Amendments remaining it would be impossible to close the Committee without at least some four hours' discussion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "her Amendments remaining it would be impossible to close the Committee without at least some four hours' discussion. [ A laugh. ] An hon. Member regarded that prospect with unconcern, but he might be reminded that most Members had private duties to perform, and did not desire to commence the morning's work utterly exhausted. Were the Government prepared to go on for some four or six hours longer? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Yes, certainly.", "preceding_text": "erbate debate by the language he had employed, they were not called upon to consult the feelings of right hon. Gentlemen. § Motion made, and Question proposed, \"That the Chairman do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again.\"—( Mr. T. P. O'Connor. ) § MR. GOSCHEN said, surely hon. Members opposite did not consider the speech of his right hon. Friend was of 451 an aggressive character. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Bill through!\"", "preceding_text": " of Business, and he appealed to every impartial Member whether there was anything in the speech of his right hon. Friend to irritate the feelings of Gentlemen on the other side. He appealed to the Committee to proceed with a certain discussion of the Amendment before them. § DR. CLARK asked, when would Progress be reported? Was it a question of time or of getting the Bill through Committee? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "ot from any exasperation that anybody on those Benches might naturally feel at the diatribes of the right hon. Gentleman the Chief Secretary, but, like the proverbial eels, they were accustomed to the skinning by the right hon. Gentleman. He hoped that Progress would be reported out of commiseration for the dilapidated condition of the right hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer's voice. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "\"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "the proverbial eels, they were accustomed to the skinning by the right hon. Gentleman. He hoped that Progress would be reported out of commiseration for the dilapidated condition of the right hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer's voice. [ Cries of \"Order!\"] He appealed to hon. Members; did not the condition of his vocal organ indicate the fatigue the right hon. Gentleman was suffering? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/land-purchase-ireland-bill", "section": "land-purchase-ireland-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, 453 no!\" \"Bill through!\"", "preceding_text": " so ingeniously excited temper in the Committee, he should not have objected to go on for a limited time, but the time had come for the Government to decide what they would do. It must be apparent the Committee could not close discussion of the Amendments in time to return to the House at mid-day, and if the Government would name a time up to which they should continue he would be ready to go on. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1888/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1888/nov/27/adjournment", "section": "adjournment", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "cussed in Committee. 457 § Notice taken, that 40 Members were not present; House counted, and 40 Members being found present, MR. BYRON REED said, many hon. Members were interested in the speedy passage of the Bill he had mentioned, in order to proceed with other Business interesting to English Members, Business that had been long delayed by the factious obstruction of hon. Members opposite. "}