{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/01/naval-defence", "section": "naval-defence", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "e country. I wish I could be sure that I was speaking for the great body of the working men, for then I should know that the end of this hateful system is not far off. I read in the Times of to-day:— Mr. Cremer and Mr. Howell have opposed Lord G. Hamilton's Resolution, with Amendments, which, we should hope, the great body of working men of the United Kingdom would reject with indignant contempt. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/01/naval-defence", "section": "naval-defence", "cue_text": "Opposition cries of \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "hat we have had a great mass of work incomplete in our hands which it was our duty to finish as rapidly as possible. I have not the slightest doubt that the course of action and the policy we propose to pursue is, from a business point of view, the right policy. So far as my statements in the past are concerned, and the proposals we now make for the future, we have shown that they are consistent. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/03", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/03/marriage-with-a-deceased-wifes-sister", "section": "marriage-with-a-deceased-wifes-sister", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "simplify, as far as possible, the Marriage Law, especially in Scotland, where it is in the greatest muddle; but I contend that this measure would not simplify the matter, but would only render it more complicated. It would introduce absurdities even greater than those which now exist. Besides, it contains the old vice which has characterized every Bill of this kind—the vice of being retrospective—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/03", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/03/marriage-with-a-deceased-wifes-sister", "section": "marriage-with-a-deceased-wifes-sister", "cue_text": "cries of \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "nto their own hands are to be whitewashed, and their illegality is to be rendered legal by means of this Bill. Of course, in the matter of religious legality the Bill could not operate, as it would not alter the view of anyone, and I am sure that to deal with the subject in this piece 1531 meal fashion, offending the vast majority of the religious people of this country, would be a fatal mistake. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/10/agricultural-tenants-ireland-bill-bill-7", "section": "agricultural-tenants-ireland-bill-bill-7", "cue_text": "Ministerial cheers", "preceding_text": "tes the necessity for this clause. If the clause had been law, that man when he served the originating notice would have been able to obtain a stay of proceedings. We are told that there is an Arrears Clause in the Act of 1887. So there is, but, like many other Clauses in Acts dealing with Ireland, it has been utterly inoperative. A County Court Judge well known for his impartiality—Judge Waters —"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/10", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/10/agricultural-tenants-ireland-bill-bill-7", "section": "agricultural-tenants-ireland-bill-bill-7", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: To the tenant.", "preceding_text": " and tenant compared to a dual ownership. The landlord brings into this partnership, as it were, the land with its capacity for improvement, which varies infinitely in different cases, and the tenant brings—as I will assume for the sake of argument—his money and money's worth to the improvement of the soil. As a matter of fairplay and common sense, to whom, then, should the improved value belong? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/the-condition-of-donegal-motion-for", "section": "the-condition-of-donegal-motion-for", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: \"Hottentots!\"", "preceding_text": " coming spring, and in many instances without the prospect of food. In any case I thought it right to make the true state of affairs known to you, as representing South Donegal— and then comes the first faint indication from the Bishop of the organization making the distress worse, bad as it is in itself— Gweedore,\" says the Bishop of Raphoe, \"is still treated as if the natives were. savages. 257 "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/the-condition-of-donegal-motion-for", "section": "the-condition-of-donegal-motion-for", "cue_text": "Several hon. MEMBERS: \"Six- 276 pence?\"", "preceding_text": "andlords, they have paid in many cases a portion of their arrears as well as their rents; stock is fetching good prices; pigs sell well; there is a good crop of oats with plenty of straw; tenants are buying meal, but that is usual in these months unless the potato crop has been good; on most farms people are hard at work; and there is no difficulty in getting seed potatoes at 6d. a stone or less. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/class-i", "section": "class-i", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: And the culture", "preceding_text": " have seen, Mr. Courtney, eminent Gentlemen who do not agree with us on this side of the House, going over to Ireland and coming back and boasting that they had been received and banquetted by the tradesmen of Ireland. Why, they did all that because of this expenditure. This is the sort of bribe that is given to certain tradesmen who 294 are paraded as the wisdom, and the commerce, and the wealth—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/class-i", "section": "class-i", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: 47 days.", "preceding_text": "and he stayed one day. He came again on the 22nd of August, and stayed two days; on the 15th September, and stayed four days; on the 16th October, and stayed just about a fortnight, and the 18th December, and stayed 10 days; on Friday,. 10th August, 1888, and stayed eight days; on Saturday, 22nd October, and stayed a week—that is to say, he was in Ireland three months out of a total of 15 months. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/sugar-convention-bill", "section": "sugar-convention-bill", "cue_text": "Opposition ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": "the Continent will have to sacrifice a spurious profit, and content themselves with the legitimate profit of their business. If the same quantity of sugar were still imported into England as now, I fail to see by what process of reasoning hon. Gentlemen can imagine that sugar would become dearer. I venture to think that when the Convention comes into force sugar will be cheaper instead of dearer. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/sugar-convention-bill", "section": "sugar-convention-bill", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": "n record with the exception of the crop of 1886&#x2013;87, when it amounted to 2,733,946 tons. Notwithstanding this enormous crop, the price of raw beet sugar was to-day 18s. 1&#x00BD;d. per cwt., whereas on the 1st of February it was quoted only 13s.6d.per cwt., showing a rise of 4S.7&#x00BD;d. per cwt., or £4 12s.6d. per ton, in nine weeks. There is a probability of a further rise in the price. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/sugar-convention-bill", "section": "sugar-convention-bill", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Who is your authority?", "preceding_text": "will be an actual scarcity of sugar, and what are known as famine prices may have to be paid. The imme- 315 diate cause for this great rise in the price of sugar is attributable to the great falling off in the imports of cane sugar, which for the first three months of 1889, compared with the first three months of 1888, showed the remarkable diminution of 98,835 tons into the United Kingdom alone. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/sugar-convention-bill", "section": "sugar-convention-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "o develop new ones of our own, bringing wealth and prosperity to our own shores. Let us give work to the industrious and find work for the unemployed. It is extremely difficult to find work for 317 the unemployed, and, therefore, we should be all the more chary of destroying an industry which employs 51,000 men. The figures were given in a Blue Book 10 years ago, and they have never been refuted. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/sugar-convention-bill", "section": "sugar-convention-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: The Board of Trade.", "preceding_text": "ndustrious and find work for the unemployed. It is extremely difficult to find work for 317 the unemployed, and, therefore, we should be all the more chary of destroying an industry which employs 51,000 men. The figures were given in a Blue Book 10 years ago, and they have never been refuted. [ Cries of \"Oh!\"] Hon. Gentlemen say \"Oh!\" but I ask them to say by whom and when they have been refuted? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/sugar-convention-bill", "section": "sugar-convention-bill", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": "ing an industry which employs 51,000 men. The figures were given in a Blue Book 10 years ago, and they have never been refuted. [ Cries of \"Oh!\"] Hon. Gentlemen say \"Oh!\" but I ask them to say by whom and when they have been refuted? [An HON. MEMBER: The Board of Trade.] The Board of Trade simply stated that the number immediately employed in the sugar industry amounted to 4,000 or 5,000 persons. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/cradock-wells-charity", "section": "cradock-wells-charity", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: With the consent of the Government.", "preceding_text": "t me say I can understand the interest hon. Members for Wales take in the scheme. They would have us believe they support the scheme upon its merits; but their support of it is due to the bargain the people of Cardiff made some years ago in order to obtain the location of the South Wales College in Cardiff. For that location they undertook to make over this Charity for the benefit of the College. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/apr/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/apr/11/cradock-wells-charity", "section": "cradock-wells-charity", "cue_text": "\" Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "rust they will not decide the question upon any Party issues, but in the interest of the poor in the interest of the children of the poor, and in no other interest. I am sorry my right hon. Friend the Vice-President did not put the question a little higher than he did, because he knows very well that if this scheme is rejected, we might as well send the Charity Commissioners about their business. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/aug/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/aug/09/bury-corporation-bill-lords", "section": "bury-corporation-bill-lords", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "rting from the Standing Order. &sect; MR. COURTNEY I have no right to address the House again, but I may perhaps be allowed to say a word in explanation. I wish to say that I am 893 entirely in the hands of the House. If it is desired that I should withdraw my Resolution and adopt the suggestion of the President of the Board of Trade I am ready to do so, and will ask leave to withdraw the Motion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/aug/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/aug/09/bad-characters-in-ennis", "section": "bad-characters-in-ennis", "cue_text": "Loud cries of \"Order&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": " of such persons. &sect; MR. COX I must press this question. The right hon. Gentleman has stigmatised as bad characters some of the most respectable inhabitants of the town of Ennis and the County of Clare, some of whom may be, for aught I know, friends of my own. I want to learn the names of the persons to whom he referred. Will he repeat his cowardly and contemptible slanders outside the House? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/aug/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/aug/09/class-iii", "section": "class-iii", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No\" from the Ministerial Benches.", "preceding_text": "cerns the argument in this connection is that the notorious Mr. Cecil Roche, whose name has so often been heard in this and in former Debates, has been promoted over the heads of at least 11 of his colleagues. Now, I say that the task of ascertaining these facts ought not to be left to the industry of any private individual. I ask, is the right hon. Gentleman ashamed of this system, or is he not. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/aug/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/aug/19/light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "section": "light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "hdrawn until long after that opposition had ceased. It was quite competent for the Government to have rushed Part II. through the Committee, as they rushed the rest of the Bill through. They have adopted none of those safeguards which the Royal Commission recommended them to adopt. There is not a supporter of the Bill on this side of the House who does not believe that a large sum will be wasted. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/aug/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/aug/19/light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "section": "light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": "R I hope the hon. Gentleman will not insist upon pressing this Amendment to a Division. I think he will see that nothing is to be gained from the taxpayer's point of view by the introduction of the words he proposes. We may take it that when Parliament has said it is prepared to expend a capital sum of £600,000 on Irish Light Railways, the whole of that will be called up and will have to be paid. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/aug/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/aug/19/light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "section": "light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "cue_text": "Mr. A. J. BALFOUR: Hear, hear&#x0021;", "preceding_text": "ressed through the House hastily for the purpose of benefitting congested districts of Ireland; and the Commissioners inform us, in their Report, that the Privy Council granted Orders for a short branch line to the Harbour of Carrickfergus, and for a suburban line from Dublin to Blessington, cases for which the Commissioners state \"we should scarcely have thought an Imperial grant was desirable.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/aug/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/aug/19/light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "section": "light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "enny (Mr. Chance) has taken up a very extraordinary attitude as regards the Bill, and the hon. Member for Cavan (Mr. Biggar) has taken up a line of action which we all acknowledge, but regret. We are sorry that a man of his attainments in other respects should entertain such a deep-seated objection to water communication. But the Irish Members have been tolerably unanimous in respect to the Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/aug/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/aug/19/light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "section": "light-railways-ireland-bill-no-378", "cue_text": "cries of \"Order&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "DDEN Any Company holding a working agreement with a Railway Company may apply for a guarantee from the Treasury, and, of course, the Treasury will have to satisfy themselves that the line will be worked. The guarantees under the Act of 1883 will apply to the lines which may be promoted under the Act of 1883, with the Treasury assistance derived from this Bill. &sect; MR. A. O'CONNOR What I ask is—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/feb/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/feb/21/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "for very many years a case where the House has been called upon to express its opinion upon contested matter in an Address to the Throne. One sentence read by the hon. mover was as follows:—\"We assure your Majesty that we learn with satisfaction that the statutes which we have recently passed for the restoration of order and confidence in Ireland have already been attended with salutary effects.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/jun/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/jun/18/army-estimates", "section": "army-estimates", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No.\"", "preceding_text": " think the War Office ought to know that the price paid for meat is in some cases ridiculously low—namely, 4&#x00BD;d. or even 4&#x00BC;d. per lb. It is bad enough if the men have the whole of that; but I understand that out of this it is possible for the officers and non-commissioned officers to purchase what they require at contract price, and of course the contractors give them the best of it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/jun/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/jun/19/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No whip has been received.\"", "preceding_text": " almost the words dictated by the Chairman of Ways and Means. It was not until a late hour last evening that I received a message from the right hon. Gentleman stating that he would afford facilities for discussing the measure in the manner now provided by the Motion. I arranged very late in the evening that a whip should be sent out on the condition that it was sent to every Member of the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/jun/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/jun/19/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Agreed.\"", "preceding_text": "mmittee, and upon which undertaking the Second Reading of the Bill was granted. Now the hon. Member for Bethnal Green proposes to limit the Reference to the Committee to the first point of inquiry. I am, as I have said before, most anxious that the Bill should pass into law with the least possible delay, for the present position of things is highly detrimental to the coal trade of the Metropolis. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/jun/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/jun/19/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "al position of the Corporation as it is put before us by the hon. Baronet to show that it would be absolutely impossible for the Corporation of the City of London to act upon those rights which are stated to belong to it. If it attempted to do so, whatever the fate of the duty might be in such a case, I have no doubt whatever as to what the fate of the Corporation itself would be. Fifty years ago "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "Several hon. MEMBERS: Dopping.", "preceding_text": "autious, even a little more Parliamentary, than my hon. Friend supposes. Before I move for a Committee of Inquiry, I want to be assured of my ground for so doing. I am not willing to proceed on newspaper reports alone, and in the Mitchelstown 736 case, and in almost every other case, we have asked, begged, entreated, and besought the Government to give us officially the facts, but without result. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "ases. In most of those cases the offences were unquestionably political. The case of O'Connell, for instance, was distinctly 750 a political offence; and if these offences were committed now, I apprehend that those who committed them would be treated as political prisoners and as State prisoners, as they have been treated in the past. &sect; MR. SHAW-LEFEVRE Let me remind the right hon. Gentleman—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Mr. Edward Harrington.", "preceding_text": "he executive officer. But the Government of Ireland have not declined, and do not decline general responsibility for all that is done in Ireland. I should like hon. Members opposite to elect whether they consider that the Chief Secretary administers the law and is to be held to administer the law, or whether he is not. The right hon. Gentleman challenged me upon the case of Mr. Timothy Harrington "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": "OF THE EXCHEQUER I think the right hon. Gentleman will agree with me that he had another reason for suppressing that interesting part of the quotation. Mr. Byrne, the House will be interested to learn, was the most prominent member of the Reception Committee of the right hon. Gentleman himself. &sect; MR. SHAW LEFEVRE Allow me to say I never saw and I never heard of him before in that connection. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "Mr. T. HEALY: Hear, hear.", "preceding_text": "rope, certainly not in America, where anything like the same moderation would have been observed as has been observed by the police in Ireland. The next charge brought in this long indictment has been against the Resident Magistrates. But it has been shown that appeals against their decisions have been successful in a less proportion of cases than appeals against decisions under the ordinary law. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Law and order.", "preceding_text": "enjoy it, and that there is a wide gulf between the population and the Resident Magistrates. If that charge is well-founded, at whose door rests the blame? A great part of it must be at the door of the Party opposite, who appointed many of these Magistrates. I am not sure that they have not appointed the majority of them, though they are now forward in all parts of the country in denouncing them. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: Quote.", "preceding_text": " that farms were being taken, and that men were again in a position wherein they could follow their own bent and use their own liberty, then this effort had to be made; then came the recrudescence of agitation in Kerry and elsewhere; then came the emissaries of the National League to spread abroad again their baneful influence, with its usual baneful effects, and again there was crime in Ireland. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "hat they should rise to the performance of municipal duties. But what would happen if you established local self-government in Ireland tomorrow? It would be entirely controlled by a central political clique and worked for political purposes. It would be throttled in its cradle at once by the political turn which would be given to it from its very birth. Have we proofs of that at the present time? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/01/address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "section": "address-in-answer-to-her-majestys-most", "cue_text": "Cries of dissent.", "preceding_text": " was the soothing speeches of the right hon. Member for Mid Lothian and the operation of the Plan of Campaign 814 which have led to the diminution of crime. Why, the Plan of Campaign is in itself one of the greatest and most mischievous of the crimes that are committed in Ireland, and as for the soothing effect of the right hon. Member for Mid Lothian's sympathies, those sympathies began in 1886. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/ireland-treatment-of-prisoners-under-the", "section": "ireland-treatment-of-prisoners-under-the", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order!\"", "preceding_text": "ry important matter between the Chief Secretary for Ireland and the hon. Member. The hon. Member has made a statement, and the only answer which the right hon. Gentleman makes is that he has taken it from the Freeman's Journal , which happens to be the authority on which the right hon. Gentleman himself drew up a memorandum. What I wish to ask is whether a Minister of the Crown is entitled to say—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/ireland-treatment-of-prisoners-under-the", "section": "ireland-treatment-of-prisoners-under-the", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order.\"", "preceding_text": "akes is that he has taken it from the Freeman's Journal , which happens to be the authority on which the right hon. Gentleman himself drew up a memorandum. What I wish to ask is whether a Minister of the Crown is entitled to say—[ Cries of \"Order!\"] I am entirely in order. I would ask whether a Minister of the Crown is entitled to give that sort of denial which the right hon. Gentleman has given? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/guns-and-ordnance-stores-for-the-naval", "section": "guns-and-ordnance-stores-for-the-naval", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: It was not open competition.", "preceding_text": "as exceedingly desirable steps should be taken to utilize more the gun-producing powers of the country. What has happened since? On the 13th of March last the value of the guns entrusted to Messrs. Armstrong is £387,000, to Whitworths £258,000, and to Messrs. Vickers £114,000. These figures shows that the Government have called upon the trade to an enormous extent for the manufacture of big guns. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/navy-estimates", "section": "navy-estimates", "cue_text": "Ministerial Cries of \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ntion to some important points somewhat in detail. I think it is very hard for hon. Gentlemen who have been sent here as supporters of Her Majesty's Government—and for my own part I do support Her Majesty's Government—to be told at the last moment \"There is no time to consider these matters; we want the money.\" I say that that sort of thing cannot go on. I do not care which Government is in power "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/navy-estimates", "section": "navy-estimates", "cue_text": "A Laugh.", "preceding_text": "is prepared to add to the Fleet the necessary number of officers, for, at the present time, there is a deficiency of 1718 something like 300 lieutenants. The present system of educating officers is very faulty. Both the German and the French systems are better than our own. In these days of steam and exact accuracy of the gun the first aim is to knock off the head of the captain you are fighting. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/navy-estimates", "section": "navy-estimates", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "le than most stores. &sect; DR. CAMERON Will the noble Lord reply to the points I raised a few moments ago? &sect; DR. TANNER (Cork Co., Mid) Before this subject is disposed of, there is another matter I should like to mention as requiring consideration. It is in connection with the appointment of a certain foreign nobleman to a certain post in the Navy. Of course, having been recently imprisoned—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/navy-estimates", "section": "navy-estimates", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": " want to get hold of more money. Though they cannot agree as to how it is to be expended, they all agree in this, that they must have more from the National purse. We are wasting to a large extent the National resources. Depend 1737 upon it that sooner or later these extravagant expenditure will come home to us. The poverty of this country—notwithstanding its wealth on the one hand—is increasing. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/navy-estimates", "section": "navy-estimates", "cue_text": "Renewed laughter.", "preceding_text": "ey must have more from the National purse. We are wasting to a large extent the National resources. Depend 1737 upon it that sooner or later these extravagant expenditure will come home to us. The poverty of this country—notwithstanding its wealth on the one hand—is increasing. [ Laughter. ] Yes; I say that the wealth is increasing amongst certain men, but poverty is increasing in larger numbers. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/14", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/14/navy-estimates", "section": "navy-estimates", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "sult is, we are bringing the whole of Europe into such a condition that there is danger for us all. If we increase our Navy on the one hand, another Power increases its Navy, so that the relative position is unchanged. I do ask the House to put a stop to this rivalry that is going on. I support with all my heart and might the Amendment of my hon. Friend, and I hope he will press it to a division. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/29/civil-service-pensions", "section": "civil-service-pensions", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\" and \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_text": "ll Civil Servants were compelled to subscribe, and that this fund was eventually absorbed by the Treasury on the understanding that pensions would in future be granted to Civil Servants out of the Consolidated Fund; what the fund amounted to when absorbed by the Treasury; and what has become of it? &sect; *MR. GOSCHEN In answer to the 5th consecutive question put by the hon. Member, I have to say—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/29/answers-in-the-house", "section": "answers-in-the-house", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ER That would be a very unusual course to take. There was great deal of conversation in the House at the time. It rests with hon. Gentlemen whether answers are to be audible or not. &sect; MR. BRUNNER (Cheshire, Northwich) Would it not be reasonable that a Minister, instead of reading his reply at the moment when every Member in the 1166 House is turning his Paper over, should delay for a moment? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/29/the-payment-of-members-of-parliament", "section": "the-payment-of-members-of-parliament", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "perhaps, perfectly fitted to be a Member, but not intimately known to the constituents, as a man would be who lived among them. It is quite true we might have a certain rush of candidates, and that might confuse Party organization; but I think the burden of that inconvenience would fall more heavily upon the Liberal than on the Tory Party. The Tory Party have always been the Party of obstruction. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/29/the-payment-of-members-of-parliament", "section": "the-payment-of-members-of-parliament", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": " of America. It is urged that the adoption of payment of Members will bring a large number of working men's representatives into Parliament. I do not believe it. Where the system does exist we do not find that working men are elected. So far as I am aware, not a single working man sits at Washington at the present moment—at least, I have never heard of any; nor have I ever heard of any in France. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/mar/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/mar/29/the-payment-of-members-of-parliament", "section": "the-payment-of-members-of-parliament", "cue_text": "Several hon. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "\"machine,\" as it is called, is worked from top to bottom by a class of men who try to make as much out of it as they can. My hon. Friend, the Member for Aberdeen (Mr. Bryce) has given us a description of this \"American machine,\" the working of which is an illustration of what comes from handing over the political power of the country to unscrupulous politicians who intend to make money out of it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order.\"", "preceding_text": "ance—a conviction that has been made the subject of an appeal to a Higher Court. I venture to say, following the remarks that have fallen from you Sir, that such a course has never been taken and is not in accordance with the view of the House. I think that the practice is one that may have serious consequences and that it is, contrary to the course which has been generally followed by the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: \"Yes, lawful means.\"", "preceding_text": "st instance has decided that during his presence in Ireland the hon. Member for Camborne broke the law. If there is any reasonable ground for believing on the part of the authorities that any person is engaged in an undertaking which involves a breach of the law, it is not only within the right and lawful for the police, but it is their duty to obtain all necessary information by all lawful means—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "at a right hon. Gentleman may occupy one of the highest positions in connection with the Government of Ireland without his legal knowledge being such that even the Lord Lieutenant could satisfy himself of it, I presume no one will contradict me when I say I am probably the only Member of the House who can place in the possession of the House the actual facts which are at present under discussion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order, order!\"", "preceding_text": "anything else to a man for the purpose of enabling him to break the law, is an offence against the law in every civilized country in the world. This brings me to the conduct of the police in arresting Mr. Harrison. Mr. Harrison was acquitted. The magistrates took a lenient view of the circumstances and acquitted him. &sect; MR. CONYBEARE The magistrates said the Crown had not made out their case. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No; that is not what you said.\"", "preceding_text": "on. Gentlemen opposite eagerly taking notes of that observation, with the obvious intention of using it for their own purposes. I am grieved to interfere with their benevolent purposes, but if they bad given me half a moment to explain, I should have saved them the trouble of making the notes. What I said I adhere to. I say that the part of Donegal we are dealing with is in a state of revolution. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "section": "motion-for-adjournment-of-the-house", "cue_text": "\"Order.\"", "preceding_text": "s so proud upon the question of licensing, and he thinks the Solicitor General so wrong. I cannot go on to say that he thinks himself so right, because he did not venture to express any opinion. I have a very accurate recollection of an amusing incident on the occasion of the debate on the licensing laws. I hope I may be forgiven for mentioning it, but a case was pending with regard to licensing. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/naval-defence-bill", "section": "naval-defence-bill", "cue_text": "Admiral FIELD: Hear, hear!", "preceding_text": "han is necessary at present. The first Lord of the Admiralty told the House that the new standard of the Fleet was that it should be equal to any two navies in the world. I was shocked when I heard a Minister of the Crown make such a declaration. I have no doubt the hon. and gallant Admiral (Admiral Field) would have supported the First Lord of the Admiralty if he had asked for double the amount. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/naval-defence-bill", "section": "naval-defence-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "requirements which seems a more reasonable standard. What are those requirements said to be? To enable our Navy to protect our shores from invasion, and to protect our commerce. This danger of invasion is aired at every moment. We are asked to think what a terrible thing it would be, a foreign army in England, and we are asked, will you refuse to vote a sum of money to save us from this invasion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/naval-defence-bill", "section": "naval-defence-bill", "cue_text": "An hon. MEMBER: It is not a Treaty.", "preceding_text": ", and we should have a result similar to that of the 1306 American Civil War. The Confederates had but one or two cruisers that managed to get on the sea from neutral ports, and the United States lost the whole of their carrying trade, which fell principally into our hands. It is asserted that belligerents in all probability would not hold to the Treaty, and that we are not forced to abide by it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/naval-defence-bill", "section": "naval-defence-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": "ed a while? Past history shows us, and everything shows us, how little confidence we ought to have in these large expenditures which are periodically asked for. The House will remember the large amount Lord Palmerston asked for and expended in the fortification of the Channel Islands, and then there were £5,000,000 asked for by Lord Northbrook, as to which nobody has yet discovered where it went. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/naval-defence-bill", "section": "naval-defence-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": "eaking of a Liberal First Lord of the Admiralty. We have come to the conclusion that a great deal of that five millions was absolutely wasted. I will go even further. In 1885, the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Mid Lothian (Mr. Gladstone) asked for eleven millions for the Army and Navy. Of this, two-and-a-half millions were handed over to the Admiralty. Does any one know what became of that? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/naval-defence-bill", "section": "naval-defence-bill", "cue_text": "Cries of 1312 \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "o scandalous and outrageous, that he honorably preferred to withdraw from the Government and cease to be the Leader of the House and Chancellor of the Exchequer, than accept the responsibility of that expenditure. Last year, a Committee was appointed to look into the Navy Estimates, and that Committee agreed with the noble Lord and found that the expenditure was gross, scandalous, and profligate. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/naval-defence-bill", "section": "naval-defence-bill", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": " so, and they will do so again if needs be. When any hon. Gentleman can quote any words of mine deprecating an increase in the Navy, I shall be ready to deal with him. But, Sir, I will go so far as this. If the Board of Admiralty have been mistaken—which I do not admit—in their views upon this great and crucial question, it would be no mistake for them to acknowledge and to repair such a mistake. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/06", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/06/civil-services", "section": "civil-services", "cue_text": "Interruptions.", "preceding_text": "l of the Colony has entered a nolle prosequi with respect to other charges. Why preserve the institution of trial by jury at all if the decision of juries is to go for nothing? Certainly after the practical admission of the Attorney General that he had no evidence to tender, these persons ought surely to be set at liberty. This Ordinance was practically the expression of the will of the Governor. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/22/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "ce cheaper. The yards on the Thames have not only to pay an additional price in freight upon every ton of coal they consume, but you actually put a tax on their coal of 1s. 1d. additional. Undoubtedly, to look at this it is a disadvantage to the shipbuilders, but the real pinch comes upon those who are employed by the shipbuilders. It is the poor of the Metropolis who suffer from this unjust tax. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/22/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "cue_text": "Order, order!", "preceding_text": " or anywhere outside the boundary of the tax and there establish his works. Of course, you cannot blame the capitalist or the manufacturer, but it tells severely against the great mass of the population at the East End who cannot find employment. These imposts are swept away elsewhere, and it is only in the Metropolis that they survive to any extent. * MR. R. G. WEBSTER I rise to a point of order—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/22/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "cue_text": "Order, order!", "preceding_text": "Of course, you cannot blame the capitalist or the manufacturer, but it tells severely against the great mass of the population at the East End who cannot find employment. These imposts are swept away elsewhere, and it is only in the Metropolis that they survive to any extent. * MR. R. G. WEBSTER I rise to a point of order—[Order, order!] The hon. Member states that in no other part of the country—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/22/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_text": "nquiry into the extent of the rights, and as what the legal right to them is, is a matter which may be a proper subject of debate. I think it is highly improper to abolish rights which are believed to exist without proper inquiry. Therefore, although I shall feel it my duty to vote against the Amendment of my hon. Friend, if put to the House, I shall also feel it my duty to vote against the Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/22/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_text": "County Council. That being so, we shall in my opinion stultify ourselves if we vote now at the request of the Liberal County Council. I think the Council is rather rash in rushing 767 into the discussion of questions in regard to which its members have no experience whatever, and they ought in my opinion to get a little experience before dictating to the House of Commons as to how we should vote. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1889/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1889/may/22/coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "section": "coal-duties-london-abolition-bill-no-5", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Divide,\" and interruption .", "preceding_text": "uestions in regard to which its members have no experience whatever, and they ought in my opinion to get a little experience before dictating to the House of Commons as to how we should vote. [ Interruption .] I shall cordially support the rejection of this Bill, and I am very sorry indeed that any change of front has taken place on this side. The Home Secretary said he would not accept the Bill. "}
