{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/naval-floating-docks", "section": "naval-floating-docks", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What has he done?\"", "preceding_text": "§ Mr. McKENNA I have nothing to add to the answer given to a similar question on Monday last, namely, that the designs are now under consideration. § Mr. MIDDLEMORE May I be allowed to submit a point of order? The right hon. Gentleman has not returned a \"yes\" or a \"no\" in answer to my question, nor an 328 answer which is a diplomatic mixture of the two He has not refused an answer even. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/naval-floating-docks", "section": "naval-floating-docks", "cue_text": "Loud laughter.", "preceding_text": "o support me? § Mr. SPEAKER However often the hon. Member puts his question down he cannot compel a Minister to answer. I understood the First Lord to say that the matter was under consideration. § Mr. MIDDLEMORE I asked about the designs, Sir? § Mr. SPEAKER Well, he said the designs were under consideration. Perhaps the hon. Member will repeat his question about the end of August. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/opening-of-strangers-gallery-budget", "section": "opening-of-strangers-gallery-budget", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "mons Sitting OPENING OF STRANGERS' GALLERY (BUDGET STATEMENT). HC Deb 28 April 1909 vol 4 cc341-2 341 § Mr. WILLIAM CLOUGH I beg to ask you, Mr. Speaker, whether, in view of the universal interest taken in the Budget, and in view of the fact that this will be the first financial statement of the present Chancellor of the Exchequer, you will arrange for the Galleries to be open to the public. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/trade-boards-bill", "section": "trade-boards-bill", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": "t does, let us imagine what will be the result. Will the worker be harmed by a reduced demand for a dearer article? Unless the decrease in the demand is very great, I say this, with great conviction, that it would be better that the worker should be employed on a lesser demand, with reasonable hours of work at a fair rate of wages, than on a great demand with long hours at sweated rates of wages. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/trade-boards-bill", "section": "trade-boards-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is it.\"", "preceding_text": "ry great, I say this, with great conviction, that it would be better that the worker should be employed on a lesser demand, with reasonable hours of work at a fair rate of wages, than on a great demand with long hours at sweated rates of wages. [Ironical cheers.] I suppose what is running in the minds of the hon. Gentlemen who cheer is that you are going to invite foreign competition from abroad. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/trade-boards-bill", "section": "trade-boards-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Both.\"", "preceding_text": "ade board have considered the report (if any) made by the committee.\" It seems to me that the principle of local government could not be given wider application. The hon. Member for Durham and others have also complained of the optional character of the Bill. I do not know whether by that he alludes to the setting up of the trade boards or to making their determinations compulsory. Probably both. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/trade-boards-bill", "section": "trade-boards-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Under protection.\"", "preceding_text": " this country of goods produced by sweated labour abroad. That is particularly necessary in the case of the trades affected by this Bill. What is the position of these trades abroad? According to the recent publications of the \"Office du Travail,\" the earnings in the tailoring trade in France, in the workroom where the ordinary class of goods is manufactured, are these: The men average 4f. a day. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/trade-boards-bill", "section": "trade-boards-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Belfast?\"", "preceding_text": " this House in favour of any proposal meant to cope with the sweating evil which exists in this country, but the conditions which prevail in Great Britain are very different from those which prevail in Ireland. Here you have great urban centres and great industrial centres. In Ireland, whilst we have a few, very few, large urban centres, I might say we have practically no large industrial centre. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/trade-boards-bill", "section": "trade-boards-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"All.\"", "preceding_text": "ed to extend the schedule of the Bill to all industries, whether they have trade unions or whether they have not. It is what trade unions have been contending for during many years, that the State should intervene and fix a minimum wage. I am sorry to see that my right hon. Friend is so innocent as to be misled by the clever tactics of people who appeal to the humane sentiments which we all have. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/trade-boards-bill", "section": "trade-boards-bill", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "n possibly be extended, and in each case the extension an only take place with the sanction of both Houses of Parliament. § Sir F. BANBURY Sweating is very difficult to define. A great number of people say that the agricultural labourer who receives only 12s. or 15s. a week is sweated. The case of the agricultural labourer has been cited over and over again by hon. Members below the Gangway. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/28/trade-boards-bill", "section": "trade-boards-bill", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "[\"Hear, hear.\"] They cheer that now. Does the right hon. Gentleman intend to include agricultural labourers, because there is a large number of people who have come forward and say that the wages of the agricultural labourers are sweated. So far as I know the only standard fixed by hon. Members below the Gangway is the wage standard—a wage on which the person who receives it can live comfortably. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/national-debt", "section": "national-debt", "cue_text": "cries of \"Order\"", "preceding_text": "nder-estimation of revenue, and the over-estimation of expenditure, respectively? § Mr. HOBHOUSE To the questions put down by the hon. Member I have not been able to prepare an answer. The House will understand that the Department has been very much overworked in connection with the financial statement. § Mr. CHIOZZA MONEY Arising out of the interesting answer that might have been given—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/development-scheme", "section": "development-scheme", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "world—but we have by no means exhausted its possibilities for healthy and productive employment. It is no part of the function of a Government to create work; but it is an essential part of its business to see that the people are equipped to make the best of their own country, are permitted to make the best of their own country, and, if necessary, are helped to make the best of their own country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/development-scheme", "section": "development-scheme", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "in such a crowded little island. There are millions of acres in this country which are more stripped and sterile than they were, and providing a living for fewer people than they did even a thousand years ago—acres which abroad would either be clad in profitable trees or be brought even to a higher state of cultivation. We want to do more in the way of developing the resources of our own country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/duty-on-petrol", "section": "duty-on-petrol", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They have got protection,\" and \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "opment of the motor industry by discouraging persons from keeping a motor, or an additional motor, should they only want it for occasional use. § I, therefore, propose to put a tax of 3d. per gallon on all petrol used for motor vehicles. This small tax, very small compared with what hon. Gentlemen would have to pay if they were motoring in France, where they would be compelled to pay 1s. 8d.—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/legacy-and-succession-duties", "section": "legacy-and-succession-duties", "cue_text": "\"Oh, oh.\"", "preceding_text": "5 515 § The rate of legacy and succession duties, where the beneficiary is a brother or sister or a descendant of a brother or sister of the deceased, will be raised from 3 per cent. to 5 per cent.; while the other legacy and succession duties, which at present vary from 5 to 10 per cent., according to the degree or absence of relationship, will be charged at the uniform rate of 10 per cent. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/legacy-and-succession-duties", "section": "legacy-and-succession-duties", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not at all.\"", "preceding_text": "he beneficiary is a brother or sister or a descendant of a brother or sister of the deceased, will be raised from 3 per cent. to 5 per cent.; while the other legacy and succession duties, which at present vary from 5 to 10 per cent., according to the degree or absence of relationship, will be charged at the uniform rate of 10 per cent. [\"Oh, oh.\"] Most of them are charged 10 per cent. at present. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/stamp-duties", "section": "stamp-duties", "cue_text": "Some cries of \"Speak up.\"", "preceding_text": " additional revenue under this head will be derived from transfers of real property. As such property will benefit largely from the decrease of the poor rate, which must necessarily follow as a result of the adoption of a State system of old age pensions and other schemes of social reform, it is equitable that it should be called upon to contribute to the Exchequer expenditure for these purposes. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/taxation-of-land", "section": "taxation-of-land", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": " of urban land and of mineral property. And a still more important and relevant consideration in examining the respective merits of these two or three classes of claimants to taxation is this. The growth in the value, more especially of urban sites, is due to no expenditure of capital or thought on the part of the ground owner, but entirely owing to the energy and the enterprise of the community. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/taxation-of-land", "section": "taxation-of-land", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ere are good landlords and there are bad landlords. But in this respect there are so many good landlords in the country to set up the standard that even the worst are compelled to follow at a greater or a less distance. But the worst rural landlord in this respect is better than the best urban landlord in so far as the recognition of what is due to the community who produce the rent is concerned. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "section": "the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "ch he himself has quoted show that there is a growing movement in favour of sobriety. That has been going steadily on for the past 10 years and it may be expected to go en for the future, owing to the feeling which now animates all classes of society. We know that his colleagues have advocated these additional duties as a punishment on the trade for having opposed the Licensing Bill of last year. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "section": "the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Tea\" and \"Sugar.\"", "preceding_text": "reased according to national requirements, and would produce permanently a sound source of revenue of enormous dimensions. 579 I rejoice that we, a Free Trade country—and all Free Trade countries must depend on direct taxation as an important source of their taxation—should ensure that the food of the people shall not be a source from which the revenue can carry on the Government of this country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "section": "the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Scotland?\"", "preceding_text": "happened in 1853, when the gravest of all injustices was done in point of taxation to our country. In 1853, by the imposition of a largely increased whisky tax, the taxation of Ireland was increased at one blow by £2,000,000 per year, and now you do not propose to put a single additional sixpence on the beverage of this country, while you propose to put an enormously increased taxation on whisky. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "section": "the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER on the Opposition Benches: \"A dissolution.\"", "preceding_text": "l the land of the country, a Valuation Bill apparently for all the buildings in the towns, a Land Bill, a Bill dealing with town tenants' interests, and a Licensing Bill, all rolled into one. I do not know what the proposal of the Government will be, whether they intend to keep Parliament sitting until Christmas to discuss this measure, or what their object is in proposing a measure of this kind. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "section": "the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "cue_text": "Opposition cheers.", "preceding_text": " Bill dealing with town tenants' interests, and a Licensing Bill, all rolled into one. I do not know what the proposal of the Government will be, whether they intend to keep Parliament sitting until Christmas to discuss this measure, or what their object is in proposing a measure of this kind. [An HON. MEMBER on the Opposition Benches: \"A dissolution.\"] Well, I sincerely hope it is a dissolution. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/apr/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/apr/29/the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "section": "the-chancellor-of-the-exchequer", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER made an interruption.", "preceding_text": " the state of the National Debt at the present moment. According to this Paper here, it stands at £702,000,000. In 1899 it was £628,000,000. That is to say, £74,000,000 less than now. But that did not include 586 the money which we were going to spend upon land purchase in Ireland. That was not passed at that time. We do not know exactly how much we are going to spend on land purchase in Ireland. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/08/professional-advisers", "section": "professional-advisers", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Order.\"", "preceding_text": "ointment, and are admitted to the Official Gallery when their presence is required by my right hon. Friend. Their salaries will be charged to Treasury Vote, sub-head C, Special Inquiries. The total cost will be about £600. Captain CRAIG May I ask whether this Mr. Lumley was not in the hands of the receiver last December, and whether he is now the adviser to the Government in matters of valuation? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh,\" and Mr. MCNEILL: \"Is it not?\"", "preceding_text": "ally his speech places the Government in an impossible position. He reads out certain statements about the internal condition of a foreign country in regard to which we have no treaty obligation and treaty rights, and he challenges the Government to disprove those statements. It is not our business even to know what passes in the internal affairs of other countries where we have no treaty rights. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"From what source?\"", "preceding_text": "gs in this country. The hon. Member for Barnard Castle Division read out certain figures. I do not accept those figures. Of course, we do have reports from foreign countries, which we cannot publish, with regard to the state of affairs in those countries. All I have seen, which comes from sources which I could trust, goes to show that what the hon. Member has stated is not a true or fair account. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "pinion of the whole of the representatives of the Duma of what is good for their country? Is it the welfare of Russia you have at heart? If it is, why not take the opinion of the representatives of that country? Many of us came into contact with those members of the Russian Duma. They belonged to different parties, tout they represent; every party which desires constitutional progress and reform. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the 200 men in gaol?\"", "preceding_text": "atives of the Duma of what is good for their country? Is it the welfare of Russia you have at heart? If it is, why not take the opinion of the representatives of that country? Many of us came into contact with those members of the Russian Duma. They belonged to different parties, tout they represent; every party which desires constitutional progress and reform. [Cries of \"No.\"] Yes, it is a fact. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "ifestations of futile folly, I should have spoken in a very different tone and made a different appeal to the House. I do appeal to the common-sense and practical sense of the House of Commons, and I would ask them to remember that the Czar who is going to pay a visit to this country will undoubtedly be remembered in history as a Sovereign during whose reign constitutional Government was granted. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "erson) in discussing the view of the Czar's visit which he has put forward this afternoon. We discussed it very fully last year. The Motion which was moved by the Labour Party on that occasion was rejected by an overwhelming majority of the House, and as Mr. Homiakhoff's letter showed, whether it be right or wrong, reasonable or unreasonable, is repudiated by the great mass of patriotic Russians. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Does the hon. Gentleman dispute the official returns which have been quoted today relating to prisons and massacres?\"", "preceding_text": "an refers to a matter of no account, and it is exceedingly 686 improbable that the whole nature and character of the Russian people has so completely changed. I have travelled in Siberia and seen a good many prisons, and I protest that were I, as I hope I never shall be, a convicted prisoner, I would rather spend the term of my sentence in Siberia than in any prison I have ever seen in the world. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, never.\"", "preceding_text": "nly I should be quite as much in sympathy as my hon. Friends in their natural abhorrence of the government in Russia, but I venture with the greatest respect—and I am speaking now entirely on my own Motion—to suggest that it is a little too exigent on their part to endeavour to pass a censure upon His Majesty's Government for what is nothing more than continuing the ordinary diplomatic relations. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Why not?\"", "preceding_text": " on my own Motion—to suggest that it is a little too exigent on their part to endeavour to pass a censure upon His Majesty's Government for what is nothing more than continuing the ordinary diplomatic relations. [Cries of \"No, never.\"] And I would say this, if I may illustrate my meaning, supposing the Emperor of Russia were to visit this capital—I believe he is not going to leave the Royal yacht—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Non-intervention!\" and \"Freedom!\"", "preceding_text": "ort both lines. If the policy of the Foreign Secretary has committed this country to an alliance with France in a European war, irrespective of the merits of the case, I think that would be a departure from Liberal traditions, and the traditions of Liberal foreign policy. A great deal has been said as to the traditions of Liberal foreign policy. What is the Liberal tradition as to foreign policy? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Was that Palmerston's policy?\"", "preceding_text": " to the traditions of Liberal foreign policy. What is the Liberal tradition as to foreign policy? [Cries of \"Non-intervention!\" and \"Freedom!\"] When you say that it is \"freedom,\" you use a term which is meaningless. To say that Liberal foreign policy is freedom is to use the idlest of rhetoric. The practical tradition of Liberal foreign policy is non-intervention in foreign affairs. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Oh, oh.\"", "preceding_text": " MacNeill) spoke about two-thirds of the provinces of Russia being under martial law and in a state in which the governor was able to sentence to death without trial. That statement is absolutely contrary to the information which we have received. 725 § Mr. MacNEILL I gave the information, and I know it is correct. § Mr. McKINNON WOOD It is absolutely and flatly contradicted officially. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/22/foreign-office", "section": "foreign-office", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": " loans and to a very large extent the finances of the country; that there is an improvement in the freedom of the Press. I cannot help thinking that the real question before the House is this: First of all, are we justified because of our opinion of the internal affairs of another country in saying that we shall have no friendly relations with that country? That is what this Vote would amount to. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jul/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jul/29/navy-and-army-expenditure-1907-8", "section": "navy-and-army-expenditure-1907-8", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_text": " Debate which took place in the year 1904–5 upon this question. In 1904 we had a discussion on this question, and the hon. Members who took part in it form a very striking list. There were six hon. Members on that occasion, every one of whom since has been advanced to high rank on the Government Bench. I am not taking part in the Debate with any idea that the same happy fate will befall me—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jun/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jun/29/part-i-duties-on-land-values", "section": "part-i-duties-on-land-values", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": " per cent. Settlement Estate Duty as well. There will be Succession Duty, and, at the lowest, that will be about 2 per cent. Then there will be 20 per cent. Increment Duty on that part of the estate on which the Increment Duty is payable. Where the estate comes in direct succession, the duty will be something over 30 per cent. Where it does not come to a lineal descendant, it will be 40 per cent. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jun/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jun/29/part-i-duties-on-land-values", "section": "part-i-duties-on-land-values", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "; Mr. LEIF JONES 20 per cent, only is the Increment Duty. § Mr. PRETYMAN I am sorry that the hon. Gentleman did not quite catch what J said. I said on that part of the estate which was due for Increment Duty value. I said that distinctly. Of course, it would not amount to 40 per cent, on the whole. § Mr. LEIF JONES Not on the capital value? § Mr. PRETYMAN Yes, on the capital value. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jun/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jun/29/part-i-duties-on-land-values", "section": "part-i-duties-on-land-values", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not at a forced sale.\"", "preceding_text": "have any difficulty in selling that portion of his estate which had an increment value. My hon. Friend said—and this is germane to the whole of the discussion—it was impossible for the owner to get the market value of his land on these occasions. I submit that is an absolute contradiction in terms. The market value of the land is the value which the land-owner will get by sale in the open market. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jun/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jun/29/part-i-duties-on-land-values", "section": "part-i-duties-on-land-values", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "t to the House may I call the attention of the right hon. Gentleman to the accusation which has been made on the other side that we have put on the Paper the Amendments which we have to delay and obstruct the passage of this Bill. Here is an instance which, clearly, if the sub-section had been allowed to pass un-amended, would have made it necessary for a valuation to be made out of this country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jun/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jun/29/part-i-duties-on-land-values", "section": "part-i-duties-on-land-values", "cue_text": "OPPOSITION cries of \"No\"", "preceding_text": "en. I think that is rather strong, because B has the property and the increment and A pays. But that is not all—— § Sir W. ROBSON Although the property is B's, section 2 of the Finance Act gives rise to the occasion for the collection of the duty, but it does not follow that the duty is collected from the heirs of the estate of the person who made the gift. It is a duty attaching to the land—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jun/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jun/29/part-i-duties-on-land-values", "section": "part-i-duties-on-land-values", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Section 5.\"", "preceding_text": "which they would clear their property of the Increment Value Duty. This occasion is one on which it is proper they should clear their property at some later date. § Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN Can the Attorney-General refer me to the section he relies upon? § Sir W. ROBSON Yes, I will refer him to the section. It is really part of the scheme of the Act, because the duty is put upon the land. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/jun/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/jun/29/part-i-duties-on-land-values", "section": "part-i-duties-on-land-values", "cue_text": "Cries of \"Read on.\"", "preceding_text": " the section he relies upon? § Sir W. ROBSON Yes, I will refer him to the section. It is really part of the scheme of the Act, because the duty is put upon the land. [Cries of \"Section 5.\"] Section 5 provides, \"The provisions as to the assessment, collection, and recovery of Estate Duty under the Finance Act, 1894 , shall apply as if Increment Value Duty were an addition to the Estate Duty.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/land-value-duties", "section": "land-value-duties", "cue_text": "Cries of \"To-morrow.\"", "preceding_text": "ar as I am concerned I shall certainly preserve an open mind for full discussion with regard to any grievance that may be submitted for my consideration. I only get up now to clear up one or two misconceptions, and in doing so I can partly anticipate the introduction of the Bill, which cannot now be delayed beyond a day or two. Before the end of this week the Bill will be in the hands of Members. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/land-value-duties", "section": "land-value-duties", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is there any limit of time?\"", "preceding_text": "he proposals of the Finance Bill the college would be taxed on the money which had been spent on developments. He will find that all the money spent on development will be deducted before the valuation has been arrived at. If the college sent £70,000 or £100,000 on improvement, I think it would be a monstrous thing if a tax were imposed on the money spent by it on the improvement of its property. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/land-value-duties", "section": "land-value-duties", "cue_text": "Ministerial cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "hich we have heard so much lately—the Crown; Woods and Forests; the Corporations; the London County Council—every single owner of land, public or private. Every single owner of land, public or private, collies under the condemnation of the hon. and learned Gentleman. He says they are all holding up this land illegitimately and the existing owners require to he robbed in order to put things right. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/naval-defence-two-power-standard", "section": "naval-defence-two-power-standard", "cue_text": "Cries of dissent, and an Hex. MEMBER \"It is important.\"", "preceding_text": "ceded whether Conservative or Liberal. There has been no change of any sort whatever. We have continued strictly on the lines laid down for us, not by one party or the other, hut by the common consent of administrators belonging to both parties in the State. Let me add—the hon. Member will, I think, agree with me—that at the moment, for the purposes of the moment, the Question is an academic one. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/naval-defence-two-power-standard", "section": "naval-defence-two-power-standard", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He explained that.\"", "preceding_text": " delicate as these, because, however one answers, however guarded they are, they are often liable to misconception—that under existing conditions, or conditions that we cannot at present foresee, you ought not to limit your vision when you are contemplating the two-Power standard to Europe alone. It was said three or four years ago by Earl Cawdor that the standard only applied to European Powers. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/naval-defence-two-power-standard", "section": "naval-defence-two-power-standard", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Which statement? \"", "preceding_text": "d carry out a campaign throughout the country to revert to the old standard of two to one—two \"Dreadnoughts\" whenever Germany lays down one. § Sir WILLIAM COLLINS I desire to move, as an Amendment, to leave out from the word \"House,\" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words, \"accepts with confidence the statement with regard to the two-Power standard made by the Prime Minister.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/naval-defence-two-power-standard", "section": "naval-defence-two-power-standard", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "er what the country or where situate. I understand now that at least two, and I think three, great modifications are, for the first time, introduced into that statement. In the first place, it is not every country which is to be included. I understand that any country which is not likely to be able to bring a fleet for offensive purposes into British waters is excluded. Is that the new statement? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/naval-defence-two-power-standard", "section": "naval-defence-two-power-standard", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Read, read,\" and \"Divide \"", "preceding_text": "\"whether by the words the two next strongest Powers' the right bon. Gentleman means the two next. strongest Powers, whatever they may be and wherever they may be situated? § Mr. McKENNA Would the right hon. Gentleman read the question which preceded that question? Mr. BALFOUR I am afraid it is not on this Paper. It would greatly help me if you would read it. § Mr. McKENNA I will explain—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/naval-defence-two-power-standard", "section": "naval-defence-two-power-standard", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Read.\"", "preceding_text": "Paper. It would greatly help me if you would read it. § Mr. McKENNA I will explain—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Read, read,\" and \"Divide \"] Mr. BALFOUR The right hon. Gentleman apparently wants me to read it, and is afraid to read it himself. At all events he prefers to read it, if he reads it at all, when I am not in a position to reply to any gloss he chooses to put upon it, which may be a wise policy. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/may/26/naval-defence-two-power-standard", "section": "naval-defence-two-power-standard", "cue_text": "Cries of 1316 \" Yes\" and \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "nts in the sense in which the Prime Minister used the words six months ago. § Mr. W. B. BYLES He said lie withdrew nothing. Mr. BALFOUR He said a great many things that qualified their meaning. Really does the hon. Gentleman say that the Prime Minister now holds—now holds—that the two-Power standard means \"the two next strongest Powers whatever they may be, or wherever they may be situated.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/23", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/23/clause-17-advances-for-purchase-of", "section": "clause-17-advances-for-purchase-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "rt of the Government to omit these landless men or put them at the bottom of the Clause. In Ireland, however, they will say: \"Here is a Land Bill which is giving facilities for existing proprietors of £10 rateable value to have their holdings enlarged. That is the object of the Bill. It is better to add to the holdings of the men already in possession than to bring men in from the village corner. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/23", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/23/clause-21-congested-estates", "section": "clause-21-congested-estates", "cue_text": "An Hon. Member: \"That is a different point.\"", "preceding_text": "sell his property to the Congested Districts Board, but his solicitor could not get them to come to terms. The Board were asked in February why they had not replied, and the solicitor received a letter stating that they had had 120 estates offered to them for voluntary acquisition in the West of Ireland, and there was not one which they could approach because they had not got the necessary funds. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/23", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/23/clause-41-proposals-for-purchase-by", "section": "clause-41-proposals-for-purchase-by", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You had not the power.\"", "preceding_text": "hen what will be the result of want of satisfaction with the present Bill? We all know what the words of the hon. and learned Member mean. They always express dissatisfaction with anything they get; but at the same time they grasp it greedily, and they take the last penny they can get out of the Bill. The hon. and learned Member and other Members said that we had made no concessions in this Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/23", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/23/clause-41-proposals-for-purchase-by", "section": "clause-41-proposals-for-purchase-by", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh.\"", "preceding_text": "ral compulsory sale? What has invariably been the answer? One solitary case is given by hon. Members below the Gangway, that of Lord Clanricarde, and one solitary case adduced by the Vice-President of the Department of Agriculture. Those are the two solitary cases held up as the argument and justification for the introduction of a compulsory purchase system which exists nowhere else in the world. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/23", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/23/clause-48-congested-districts-counties", "section": "clause-48-congested-districts-counties", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "and the meaning of this at all. The new congested area comprises nine counties. The new areas agreed to by the House of Lords to come under the sway 154 of the new Congested Districts Board are very large. Yet out of all the immense district recommended by the Dudley Commission, the House of Lords have fixed, and fixed alone, upon this particular district which is represented by me in this House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/23", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/23/clause-48-congested-districts-counties", "section": "clause-48-congested-districts-counties", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_text": "hampion of Clare in this matter, and to the extent of two-thirds I have succeeded. Had it not been for such energy as Lord Crewe and I exhibited in regard to this matter no part of Clare would have been included. 157 § Mr. WILLIAM REDMOND Might I ask the right hon. Gentleman if he can state what were the reasons given by Lord Lansdowne and those who objected to the inclusion of County Clare? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/23", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/23/clause-60-restrictions-on-sales-of-land", "section": "clause-60-restrictions-on-sales-of-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "; Mr. BIRRELL Hon Members speak to very willing ears when they speak to me on this subject. I have been hard at work on this thing from a very early hour yesterday morning. I quite agree that on the whole we have made marvellously good progress, and I am quite sure there has not been a word said which could reasonably have been omitted. We are, however, peculiarly situated. Our days are numbered. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1909/nov/23", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1909/nov/23/finance-bill-1", "section": "finance-bill-1", "cue_text": "Cries of dissent.", "preceding_text": "t is always possible for a landowner who finds himself in the position of being expected to pay Undeveloped Land Duty to rid himself of that painful necessity either by developing the land or by selling it to somebody else. A NOBLE LORD Find someone to buy it. § EARL BEAUCHAMP If no one buys it, it has not a market value and therefore the owner does not have to pay any Undeveloped Land Duty. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/25/women-suffrage-prisoners", "section": "women-suffrage-prisoners", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_text": "sent, and what were its contents? § Mr. GLADSTONE The hon. Member's information is inaccurate. I have already stated the exact facts. A discretion was given by me to the Governor to act according to his judgment, and release the prisoners either on Friday or on Saturday. § Mr. KEIR HARDIE As the accuracy of my statement has been called into question I will read a paragraph to the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/nov/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/nov/25/clause-4-powers-and-duties-of", "section": "clause-4-powers-and-duties-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " have another scheme which has been put before us by, say, B. Go and con- 393 suit with B, bring up an amended scheme, and we will consider whether we will approve of it.\" If this Amendment is not accepted they may be bringing forward schemes of their own, and their judgment as to other schemes will not be unbiassed but determined by their own schemes, to the detriment, perhaps, of other schemes. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1909/nov/25", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1909/nov/25/finance-bill-1", "section": "finance-bill-1", "cue_text": "Cries of, \"Name.\"", "preceding_text": " movement was in that mind, nursed in such noble historical and constitutional traditions. I am inclined to believe that people outside are right who say we must look to another quarter for its origin, and that the remarkable man, the highly distinguished man, who is now your guide, philosopher and friend in this matter, but was not always so, had a good deal to do with the origin of this motion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/oct/29", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/oct/29/clause-93-reduction-of-permanent-annual", "section": "clause-93-reduction-of-permanent-annual", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Better employment.\"", "preceding_text": "few hundreds, of people, probably—— § Mr. YOUNGER You are only talking of direct employment. § Mr. LLOYD-GEORGE Agriculturists, barley growers, and those working in the malt distillers; but it will increase enormously the comfort and the happiness of hundreds of thousands of homes; and from the point of view of employment the money that is saved in this, after all, goes into employment. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/08/land-at-the-north-pole", "section": "land-at-the-north-pole", "cue_text": "The HON. MEMBER added, I assume the Prime Minister will understand \"land at or adjacent to.\"", "preceding_text": " HC Deb 08 September 1909 vol 10 cc1307-8 1308 Sir GILBERT PARKER asked the Prime Minister whether the land at the North Pole is considered to belong to the Dominion of Canada; and, if so, providing it is established that Dr. Cook has reached the North Pole and has planted there the American flag, whether that act would, in any way, give the United States any right of possession over that region. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/08/clause-32-distribution-of-payments-on", "section": "clause-32-distribution-of-payments-on", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: \"Soda water.\"", "preceding_text": " portion of this increased tax will foe doubtful, if in fact it can be shown that there had been no increased tax at all by reason of the articles being non-excisable. § Mr. JAMES HOPE Surely the seller of mineral waters has a very direct interest in the licence? It is well known that a great portion of intoxicating liquors would not be consumed by many without the additional mineral waters. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/08/clause-32-distribution-of-payments-on", "section": "clause-32-distribution-of-payments-on", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: \"And 24 hours' notice \"", "preceding_text": "have arisen, will have deprived the Commissioners of the power of dealing with it; and the Government have done this thing, while at the same time they are professing the keenest interest on behalf of the oppressed tenants. Will the Commissioners take into account any agreement cancelled, broken, or withdrawn? If it be true that while these tied-house tenants hold as monthly or quarterly notices— "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/08/clause-32-distribution-of-payments-on", "section": "clause-32-distribution-of-payments-on", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How do they live?\"", "preceding_text": "nd its level, and in the ordinary way of a tax of that kind it will be paid somehow or other by the consumer. It must in this case be paid by the consumer, because this particular trade is not in a position to bear the tax. It is already taxed to death. Hon. Members opposite have an idea that it is not. They may take it from me that the trade is taxed to death, and the publican is taxed to death. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/08/clause-33-reduction-of-monopoly-value", "section": "clause-33-reduction-of-monopoly-value", "cue_text": "Cries of \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "ences which would be surrendered. If those three houses, instead of being suppressed, had remained they would have to pay the increased Licence Duties chargeable under this Bill, and year after year there would have come a certain sum to the State. That sum disappears, although the whole trade of those three suppressed houses goes ex hypothesi to another house, or to other houses in the district. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/08", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/08/clause-33-reduction-of-monopoly-value", "section": "clause-33-reduction-of-monopoly-value", "cue_text": "Several HON. MEMBEBS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_text": "ill take the means, as far as in us lies, of paying back the spirit in which the observations have been addressed to us. § Sir SAMUEL EVANS The hon. and learned Gentleman, in the speech that he has just made, is very unjust indeed. He says that when I was a Member below the Gangway that he assisted me— § Mr. T. M. HEALY I did not use the word \"assisted.\" § Sir S. EVANS Yes you did. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/21/clause-50-exemptions-and-abatements-in", "section": "clause-50-exemptions-and-abatements-in", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So they ought.\"", "preceding_text": " something like nine £1 shares. Up to the 239 present they have been allowed either exemption or abatement of the Income Tax charged in this country where they complied with the conditions, and in India they have had only the native Income Tax to pay. Under the present provision not only would they have to pay the native Income Tax, but also the Income Tax which is now proposed to be levied here. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/21/clause-50-exemptions-and-abatements-in", "section": "clause-50-exemptions-and-abatements-in", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "draw that preference altogether. It may be said that the Government have rushed to the other extreme, and that we are withholding from the Colonial or the British subject abroad or the foreigner privileges and exemptions which are now given to British subjects. As far as the first part is concerned, there is general agreement, I think, that the Colonial or foreigner ought not to get a preference. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/21/clause-50-exemptions-and-abatements-in", "section": "clause-50-exemptions-and-abatements-in", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is the work of the Income Tax agencies.\"", "preceding_text": "is like the gentleman in Bon Gaultier, who missed the bluebottle and hit the mogul. He is always launching out and landing his blows in somebody else's eye. It is not worth while for the sake of foreign millionaires to inflict all this hardship on British subjects. I was rather surprised to hear from my hon. Friend the Member for the City how much importance is attached to these small abatements. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/21/clause-51-special-provisions-as-to", "section": "clause-51-special-provisions-as-to", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"YOU could not enforce the penalty then.\"", "preceding_text": "be subject to Sections (3) and (4). There are two or three very notorious cases which happened within the last few years. There was one case of a gentleman living in a single room on something like about £2 a week never paying a penny to the Income Tax, and paying very little to the general taxes, for he was a teetotaler, and never smoked, but when he died it was discovered he was worth millions. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/21/clause-51-special-provisions-as-to", "section": "clause-51-special-provisions-as-to", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "00,000 a year. I quite agree that there will be cases where a man is in doubt. Suppose he is under the impression the whole time that he is not subject to the Super-tax and it is discovered by some legal interpretation or other that his wife had more money than he ever thought she possessed. It would be very hard that that man should be taken before the magistrate, even if the case was dismissed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/21/clause-51-special-provisions-as-to", "section": "clause-51-special-provisions-as-to", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Without reasonable excuse.\"", "preceding_text": " Section to give them power to dismiss a case. He said that if a man failed to make his return before 30th September the court have got to fine him. I should be very willing to agree to any words that would safeguard a case of that kind. The words I suggest would come into the next subsection, which is the operative one. We might say \"if any person without just excuse,\" or any words of that kind. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/21/clause-52-stamp-duty-on-conveyances-or", "section": "clause-52-stamp-duty-on-conveyances-or", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What amount will be excepted?\"", "preceding_text": "tedly mean that four-fifths of the land transactions in Ireland would not be subject to the operation of the tax. The same remark would apply probably to small 367 holdings and workmen's dwelling-houses in this country. I do not want to anticipate the discussion on that point, but on the general argument which has been put before the Committee now I have to say that I cannot accept the Amendment. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1909/sep/21", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1909/sep/21/clause-52-stamp-duty-on-conveyances-or", "section": "clause-52-stamp-duty-on-conveyances-or", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": " hon. Gentlemen and right hon. Gentlemen asleep on the benches. Depend upon it, when we see that state of affairs it is time we went home. Therefore, I move that you report Progress and ask leave to sit again. § Mr. LLOYD-GEORGE I hope the hon. Member will not press this Motion. I was 377 under the impression that it was understood that we were to go up to the end of the Conveyancing Stamps. "}