{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " the hon. Member who is to move the rejection of the Bill declared himself, in 1907, as opposed to the principle of the Plural Voting Bill which passed this House in 1906 on the ground that it was a revolutionary measure. He said: that it sought to create an absolutely new principle in the political world in doing away with the old Liberal idea that representation and taxation should go together. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "th has only a one thirty-nine-thousandth share of a Parliamentary representative? Or, turning to the counties, why should an elector in Sutherland have a one three-thousandth share in a Parliamentary representative-while an elector in the Romford division of Essex has only a one fifty-three-thousandth share? I agree that the argument for the redistribution of seats is, in my judgment, answerable. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"GO on.\"", "preceding_text": "e on the one day. This would be effected by Clause 3 of this Bill, which provides that all writs for the election of Members of Parliament to serve in a new Parliament to be elected after the passing of this Act shall bear the same date and shall be issued on the same day, and that the elections shall take place on the same day. It would be out of place for me to dwell on the points already made. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBEB: \"Oh! Oh!\"'", "preceding_text": " will agree that that is a form of legislation which is not in any sense desirable. Though this Bill is introduced for the purpose of dealing with certain anomalies, its foundation is disfranchisement and not enfranchisement. You are disfranchising people who are entitled to a vote, and whose qualifications to vote have never caused any demur or any question. If you are honest about this question—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "lass vote ought to be organised. I myself think that the vote of what is 1620 called the middle class, in the South of England, has been very largely given to the Radical party. The vote of what I might call, I hope without offence, that admirable class, the grocer class, was very largely given to hon. Gentlemen opposite; or at all events was largely given to them until within the last few years. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "have turned against hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite. I would ask the House to recognise that in this Bill a very serious blow is being aimed, not at the large landlord, but at the small owner of property. Why is it being aimed at him? Because hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite detest the class of small property owners quite as much as they detest any man who has a stake in the country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"I am.\"", "preceding_text": "e any qualification. They were shovelled by agreement of the parties in thousands into certain divisions arbitrarily chosen with which they had no connection. Many of us in this House know of cases of that kind in our own persons. In the case of London an hon. Member suggested that residence in London in a freehold house did not give a man two votes. Who is resident in London in a freehold house? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: 1634 \"The number is exaggerated.\"", "preceding_text": "ining constituencies. In the one there are no ownership voters at all, and in the other there are several thousands, many of them belonging to the working classes. These differences are so great that it is almost impossible for anyone to state how many duplicate or plural voters there are, or how many non-resident voters there are, because you have no means of testing them in a particular county. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_text": "ecome law. I think that very fact is a very good illustration of the serious consequences which might arise if these Resolutions ever came to be passed, because it is almost certain, as he has stated, that that Bill would have been passed in 1906 if there had been no Veto of the House of Lords, and I think it is equally certain that we should not be prepared to pass that Bill at the present time. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Question.\"", "preceding_text": "uld largely do away with canvassing, which I look upon as unfortunate. § Mr. L. SANDERSON I think every Member of this House, whatever his views may be about the particular question we are now discussing, must agree that our electoral system requires to be simplified. If this Bill were directed to that object I do not suppose there would be any opposition to it from any quarter of the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "nd I have mentioned would have 1647 been a Bill for the purpose of enfranchising people, and giving them the opportunity to vote while this Bill is just the opposite, and is a Bill to disfranchise the people. I heard that statement doubted just now, but surely it is so. This Bill, if I understand it rightly, involves one principle, and it is this, that one elector shall have one vote and no more. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They ought to be.\"", "preceding_text": " that has the vote, but the property. This is very simply proved. If you take a house or a plot of ground as long as you reside in the house, or keep the plot of ground you have a vote for that house or plot of ground in the district. It is well known to everyone of us that the moment we give up the occupation of the house, or sell the plot of ground, our 1655 names are removed from the register. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "n remember in the last Parliament there was an hon. Gentleman here, the Member for Stirling Burghs, who succeeded to the seat of the late Prime Minister, and who aspired to succeed him not only in his seat, but to take up the mantle of Elisha which fell from him— HON. MEMBERS \"Elijah,. Elijah!\" § Mr. REES I beg pardon, Elijah, or Elisha, whichever it was. I attach no importance to the point. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide, divide.\"", "preceding_text": ". I do not see why Section 4 should he confined to by-elections if you take the words of the clause only. The right hon. Gentleman said that if a Division were called he would vote for it, although I do not understand that he adopts the measure on behalf of the Government. Consequently his speech leaves me very much in doubt as to what is the proper course I should take in regard to this measure. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/01/parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "section": "parliamentary-elections-law-amendment", "cue_text": "An HON MEMBER: \"Sit down and let them.\"", "preceding_text": "alled he would vote for it, although I do not understand that he adopts the measure on behalf of the Government. Consequently his speech leaves me very much in doubt as to what is the proper course I should take in regard to this measure. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide, divide.\"] Hon. Members cry out, \"Divide, divide,\" but to my certain knowledge there are several hon. Members opposite who wish to speak. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "e which might be £100 per acre. When they are sold the piece leading towards the town has a slight building value of £5 per acre, while the other has no building value whatever. 278 The man whose land does not lead towards the town would not pay a single penny of Increment Duty, while the other unfortunate man would pay £20 per acre on the increased agricultural value of his land. Is not that so? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": "hon. and learned Friend (Mr. Clancy), fully and most satisfactorily achieve that purpose. § Mr. MAURICE HEALY indicated dissent. § Mr. DILLON have often said before that feel considerable difficulty and disadvantage in arguing a point with the hon. and learned Member for North-East Cork. What does the hon. and learned Member say, presuming on the ignorance of some Members of this House? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Any where?\"", "preceding_text": "s been used over and over again, is that it only applies to building land. It does not apply only to building land. Whatever value that lands attains beyond purely agricultural value, it becomes taxable on the whole increment, agricultural or otherwise. The question the hon. Member has asked us to solve by his Amendment is, Do these words exempt the kind of sentimental value in Ireland (anywhere)—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "ely local valuations—and in those valuations I am assured—and have been making careful inquiry—it will 291 only be necessary to consult the official documents, so far as agricultural land is concerned, in regard to its value from that point of view. And when we made our estimates for the valuation— § Mr. T. M. HEALY Why do you have site value? What does the Department fix the site value for? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where?\"", "preceding_text": "s way of welcoming it, to say that we should impeach the gentleman who is responsible for this opinion. I can only restate the opinion that it will not be necessary for the purposes of this Bill to send men from Somerset House or anywhere else to tramp over the agricultural land of Ireland to find out its value, because they have already got full particulars to enable them to ascertain its value. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not a general valuation.\"", "preceding_text": " the valuation of land from Scotland and England and Wales, because you have at least two or three different official valuations already there. § Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN Will the right hon. Gentleman say what they are? § Mr. LLOYD-GEORGE The first is Griffith's valuation. I say this on authority which is quite good enough for me. The second valuation is the valuation under the Land Acts. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "exceed—the original site value or what? § Sir W. ROBSON I am taking agricultural land for the purpose of the original site value. That is the case with which we are dealing. All agricultural land at present in England will be put under valuation. Its original site value will, of course, be agricultural value. It is called site value; but the word \"site\" is not very appropriate to that value. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "takes that into account, and takes particularly good care as a business man that he will get the full return for his money and labour out of the agricultural value before the land passes into the category of building land. He takes care that he will be fully rewarded, and he puts no more labour and capital into the land than he knows he will get a return for before the land becomes building land. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "An Hon. Member: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "ons, but it would be a worse thing if the valuation is to be made without any examination at all, and that, it appears, is the state of things which is now brought before the Irish agriculturists. In England you are going to have a scientific valuation—you are going to have a valuation made ad hoc by officials specially appointed for the purpose. In Scotland you are to have the same good fortune. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "section": "clause-7-exemption-for-agricultural-land", "cue_text": "HON. MENBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "to buildings, you could not, for the purpose of constructing a scientific valuation, go to a source which would land you in more error and more disaster than the Poor Law valuation. § The DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN The hon. and learned Member has exceeded the limit I allowed him of a reply to the statement of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He must not argue the question of the principle of valuation. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/apr/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/apr/26/clause-1-increase-of-number-of", "section": "clause-1-increase-of-number-of", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Will the Government Whips be taken off?\"", "preceding_text": "nk I can speak for most of the agricultural Members. At all events, I myself would be very glad to support the Amendment of my noble Friend because it would tend to have that effect. § Mr. LLOYD-GEORGE May I now appeal to the Committee. I think I have really gone out of my way to meet the view of hon. Members. I have accepted a suggestion which will leave the House absolutely free to-morrow. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/18/secretary-for-scotlands-office-1", "section": "secretary-for-scotlands-office-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name them.\"", "preceding_text": "ides that, we have ample 975 authority for this change—the authority of no less an educational expert than the present Secretary of State for War. It seems to me, however, that when Scottish Members get upon the Treasury Bench they seem to lose all sense of obligation as Scottish Members. I will, however, make exception in the case of two Members of the Government out of the four who are present. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/18/secretary-for-scotlands-office-1", "section": "secretary-for-scotlands-office-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "ng, but so far as I have been able to ascertain, the only whole-hearted enthusiastic defender of the Secretary for Scotland is my right hon. Friend the Lord Advocate. He has defended the Secretary's administration with a great amount of zeal. The net result of this Debate will be that, so far as the opinion of Scotland has been expressed, it has been an overwhelming censure on the administration. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/2-amendment-of-law", "section": "2-amendment-of-law", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Seven years.\"", "preceding_text": "ted in 1842. It was purely a voluntary promise on her part to pay the Income Tax, which was then understood to be a temporary charge. I do not suggest that was the sole reason, but undoubtedly the idea was that it was only going to last for a very few years. In 1853 Mr. Gladstone made a financial arrangement when he introduced the Budget for the termination of the Income Tax in five or six years. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/2-amendment-of-law", "section": "2-amendment-of-law", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Provision was made for the Prince of Wales' children.\"", "preceding_text": " its merits. I want to direct the attention of the House to a serious matter on this point. The Chancellor of the Exchequer very easily glided over the ground, but, so far as I could follow his speech, he asked the House to believe that it was perfectly in accordance with a precedent. I can find no precedent for provision being made for the younger children of the King before the money is wanted. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/2-amendment-of-law", "section": "2-amendment-of-law", "cue_text": "Sir F. BANBURY: 1676 \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " future Parliaments when Grants require to be made. I submit that that is bad finance and that it would not be agreed to in any other Department of State. What would be condemned by hon. Gentlemen on both sides of the House, in regard to any other Department of State expenditure, should not be agreed to in connection with these Royal Grants. My second objection is a more commonsense one, perhaps. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/2-amendment-of-law", "section": "2-amendment-of-law", "cue_text": "Several HON MEMBERS \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_text": "oyal Highness the Prince of Wales, surely they can find ways and means of serving their country, and earning their salaries, without becoming, as was said on a former occasion by a very distinguished Member of this House, recipients of outdoor relief. What this proposes is that we should provide for Members of the Royal Family an income to enable them to live a life of luxury, ease, and idleness. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/2-amendment-of-law", "section": "2-amendment-of-law", "cue_text": "Several HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "o right to saddle future Parliaments with financial obligations in respect of matters which are not urgent, and which can be discussed on their merits when the circumstances arise; and, secondly, that by voting these sums to the children of His Majesty we are thereby assuming that they will live lives, perhaps ornamental, but without rendering any service whatever to the State for the sums voted. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "section": "clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "cue_text": "Several HON. MEMBERS: \"Read on.\"", "preceding_text": " government of the kingdom of Great Britain shall, in all time coming at his or her accession to the Crown, swear and subscribe that they shall inviolably maintain and preserve the foresaid settlement of the true Protestant religion with the government, worship, discipline, right and privileges of this Church as above established by the laws of this kingdom, in prosecution of the claims of right. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "section": "clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "nd he calls that an unimportant thing. That was the very thing secured by the Act of Union. § Sir H. CRAIK It does not allow them to alter the confession of faith; it only allows them to alter slightly the terms of adhesion to the confession of faith. § Colonel GREIG I have not the statute with me; but, speaking from memory, I think it allows the synods to alter the confession of faith. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "section": "clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": " of subscription.\" § Colonel GREIG Will the hon. Gentleman give me the formula of subscription? The formula of subscription meant this: That if there was any alteration made, the people who were given that formula might accept the alteration. You will find that that was the object of the alteration, because the Church of Scotland desired to make certain alterations in its confession of faith—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "section": "clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes, it is an English Act.\"", "preceding_text": "n by saying that the Act of Settlement does touch the relation of the Sovereign to Church government in England, and does not touch the relation of the Sovereign to Church government in Scotland at all. Under the Act of Settlement one of the things that the Sovereign must do is to take the English Coronation Oath, and that is an Oath by the Sovereign put to him by an English Archbishop or Bishop. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/22/clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "section": "clause-4-regent-not-entitled-to-give-the", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_text": "port that course if we go to a Division. § Mr. MORTON I understand that the Government have no settled convictions on this matter, therefore we may be allowed to decide it in a straightforward manner. I hope the House will agree with respect to putting Scotland as it was before a portion of the Clause was struck out. I was not here, but no notice was given that it was going to be struck out. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/25/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Cocoa\"", "preceding_text": "e principles of the Government. Very often when new import duties are proposed the Government and hon. Members who sit. behind 1772 them reject them because they may possibly do some home producer some benefit. That seems to be the test applied. You may suggest a duty, but if it can be shown that one little producer in this country is benefited by it then it becomes heretical and cannot be passed—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/25/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "lace there has been a complete departure from the original doctrine of Preference and Tariff Reform as laid down, for that doctrine did not include India. It expressly excluded India, and it excluded India upon consideration and for adequate reasons. Secondly there is an admission that up till 12 per cent. the foreigner pays the duty, and it is suggested that over 12 per cent, or some such figure—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/25/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh.\"", "preceding_text": " remitted especially in favour of India as is intended, what are we going to get from India? I think this question marks the different spectacles through which we on these benches, together with the Colonial Premiers, look at this question of preference as compared with hon. Members opposite. We do not look at it from the point of view of the sordid question: \"What are we going to get out of it?\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/25/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"Shame!\"", "preceding_text": " of the Indian Stores Department, with which I am more familiar. The Indian Stores Department do not give preferential treatment to merchants in this country. Their object is to buy the best article at the lowest sum at which they can procure it in the markets of the world. That, and that only, is their object. There is none of this preferential treatment to which the right hon. Gentleman refers. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/25/labour-exchanges", "section": "labour-exchanges", "cue_text": "Mr. HOLT: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": ". The old duty on these houses for the year ending in July would have been £7,006. The new Licence Duty, taking the £500 houses and all those above that figure at the minimum charge which the Finance Bill proposes, and taking the hotels as if less than one-third of their takings were for liquor—I find that the new Licence Duty for the year amounted to no less than £29,934, an increase of £22,934. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/25/naval-construction", "section": "naval-construction", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "rential trade arrangements with our colonies.\" He went on to say \"that Germany would be quite willing to take us on if she had only half our strength at sea.\" Germany will have a great deal more than half our strength at sea. You may depend upon it that force of circumstances will, as it has always done in the past, compel Germany to expand. She has got to expand against some one. We are nearest. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/accession-declaration-bill", "section": "accession-declaration-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "Bill. For those reasons I beg to move. § The PRESIDENT of the BOARD of EDUCATION (Mr. Runciman) I am sure that the hon. Member does not expect the Government to accept the Motion. Ample time was given between the First and Second Reading for a great deal of the discussion which he desires, and I am sure we are only consulting the general wish of the House in proceeding at once with the Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/accession-declaration-bill", "section": "accession-declaration-bill", "cue_text": "Several HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "d I think that three weeks rather than three days should have been allotted to it But there I part company with the right hon. Gentleman. He says that this is the only opportunity the House has had of debating the question of the shortness of time. He has forgotten that he might have debated the question at the commencement of to-day's proceedings on the Motion to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/accession-declaration-bill", "section": "accession-declaration-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Autumn Session.\"", "preceding_text": "similar motion without taking advantage of their opportunity to debate it. Members opposite complain, and I think with some reason, of the insufficiency of the time accorded to the discussion of so grave and important a subject as that now before the Committee; but if the Motion to report Progress were carried, the time at our disposal for debating important matters would be still more curtailed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/accession-declaration-bill", "section": "accession-declaration-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "is not my argument. § Mr. BIRRELL At all events, that is not the Constitution of this country at present. At all events, the House of Commons, carrying a Bill with such a majority as that of last night, is entitled,. I think, to consider that it may proceed with it. Hon. Gentlemen opposite have very fairly admitted that they have had full and ample opportunity for the discussion of this Bill "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/schedule", "section": "schedule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " from what the right hon. Gentleman said one would have actually thought he was advocating the maintenance of the old Declaration. All his arguments went to strengthen the view which some of us hold upon the matter. The hon. Member for East Clare (Mr. W. Redmond) especially complimented the House on the tolerance with which they approached this subject. I do not think he was quite sincere in that—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/schedule", "section": "schedule", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It does not apply to Ireland.\"", "preceding_text": "erm \"faithful Protestant\" involves equally the denunciation and repudiation of those doctrines. When it is said that what is objected to is the selection of the Roman Catholic religion for special treatment, the same argument would apply, not only to the Declaration, but also to the Bill of Rights and the Act of Settlement, because in both of those that religion is selected for special treatment. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/schedule", "section": "schedule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "nts instead of having time to think over them is because the apologists of the Government say—although I do not know that they say it themselves—\"we want this thing hurried through before the country has had time to think over it.\" They do not want, it is said, to discuss the matter because they see the discussion would be inconvenient and there would be a great rousing of public opinion upon it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/schedule", "section": "schedule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "me Minister attaches no importance to the Declaration or to the form of words, and is prepared to adopt any form which will meet with the least resistance in the House. § Mr. MOORE I should like to say a few words upon this matter, because the Prime Minister has gone out of his way, quite unnecessarily, to cast reflections upon the devotion to Protestantism which is felt among my colleagues. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/schedule", "section": "schedule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Agreed\" and \"Divide\"", "preceding_text": "untry. I trust that even now the Prime Minister will allow the matter to go over, at any rate, until November, so that he can say and we can say that he is neither ashamed nor afraid to allow the people of the country to consider the measures he brings forward. § 12.0 M. § Mr. J. G. BUTCHER I rise for the purpose of expressing my hearty agreement with the Amendment of the Prime Minister—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/jul/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/28/civil-list-bill", "section": "civil-list-bill", "cue_text": "Several HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "rarr; 1910 → July 1910 → 28 July 1910 → Commons Sitting CIVIL LIST BILL. HC Deb 28 July 1910 vol 19 cc2497-500 2497 § Order for Third Reading read. § Motion made, and Question proposed, \"That the Bill be now read the third time.\" § Mr. G. N. BARNES Hon. Gentlemen on both sides will no doubt feel, after the long Debates we have had, that they have earned their repose. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/01/treasury-temporary-borrowing", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What do the Government care about that?\"", "preceding_text": "William Harcourt further stated that:— The right hon. Gentleman has muddled away his income. Those are very good words, and I think I may say that the right hon. Gentleman has \"muddled away\" his income. Sir William Harcourt proceeded:— I have always held that this provision is one of the greatest sources of strength to the British nation because that gives you credit at home and character abroad. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/01/treasury-temporary-borrowing", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Lords.\"", "preceding_text": "overnment make this proposal, because in November they thought £3,500,000 would be sufficient, and why is it not sufficient now? What has happened during the last few months? I have been looking about for an answer to that question, and the only answer I can find is that in November last the Government thought they were going to raise the whole amount from the Income Tax, but whose fault is that? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/01/treasury-temporary-borrowing", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And carried in both Houses.\"", "preceding_text": "; Mr. LLOYD-GEORGE No. § Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN When, then? Not before Easter. You do not seek authority to do that. It must therefore be after Easter. Is it to be immediately after? No, it will not be until the various Resolutions dealing with the House of Lords have all been discussed—each and every one of them—and the discussions concluded in this House. It will be a Committee discussion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/01/treasury-temporary-borrowing", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The House of Lords.\"", "preceding_text": "riend the Member for the City of London. I do not desire to pose as a hostile critic of the Motion before the House, but I desire to have further information as to the intentions of the Government. Where I am their critic is not in regard to what they are doing now, but in regard to what they are leaving undone, and what they have left undone, to minimise the disorder which has been occasioned by—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/01/treasury-temporary-borrowing", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing", "cue_text": "OPPOSITION laughter.", "preceding_text": "t I think the great mistake they made was dissolving Parliament at all. They ought to have denied the right of the House of Lords to force the dissolution, and they ought to have brought in their Budget again in February and sent it up to the House of Lords again, and let the House of Lords reject it if they dared, and they would not have dared. § Lord HUGH CECIL Would you have voted for it? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/01/treasury-temporary-borrowing", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing", "cue_text": "OPPOSITION laughter.", "preceding_text": " Budget again in February and sent it up to the House of Lords again, and let the House of Lords reject it if they dared, and they would not have dared. § Lord HUGH CECIL Would you have voted for it? [OPPOSITION laughter.] § Mr. DILLON The laugh is premature. I am perfectly prepared to answer that question. We should have done exactly what we did last December. We should have abstained. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/01/treasury-temporary-borrowing", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing", "cue_text": "OPPOSITION laughter.", "preceding_text": "e exactly what we did last December. We should have abstained. [OPPOSITION laughter.] Is not that a perfectly fair answer? We would not have assisted the House of Lords in killing the Budget. We have never concealed our position towards that Budget, and I, personally, have never had the slightest difficulty in stating what my feelings towards it are. I think it is an excellent Budget for England. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/01/treasury-temporary-borrowing", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "and right hon. Gentlemen on the Opposition Benches silent now? That is a plain question which could be easily answered, but all their patriotism evaporates when that question is asked, and their great anxiety to save the country and clear up the finances of the country disappears. I know what is in the minds of hon. Members perfectly well. They imagine that they are going to win at next election. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/02/teaching-of-irish", "section": "teaching-of-irish", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Bear it like a, man.\"", "preceding_text": "raph of the question is in the negative. § Mr. MOORE Will the right hon. Gentleman reconsider the waste of public money in teaching this senseless subject? § Mr. BIRRELL I think that Irish well taught is an admirable subject. 858 § Mr. MOORE Will the right hon. Gentleman say to whom it is of the least utility? § Mr. BIRRELL It is difficult to say who benefits by any education. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/02/treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How about the Bill?\"", "preceding_text": " Resolution, other Members have no power in a matter of this sort. If the Government were to propose a Resolution and the subsequent steps necessary were carried out, then the Income Tax would be paid exactly as it has been for centuries in the past. § Mr. McKENNA Centuries? § Sir ALFRED CRIPPS Well, I will not say centuries, but for fifty years. That will be sufficient for my argument. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/02/treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who threw out the Budget?\"", "preceding_text": "e House of Lords master of the whole situation. Colonel WILLIAMS Is not this a fact, that Budgets are a modern invention, and that formerly every tax had its own Bill? I know something about the feeling of business men in the City, and I am quite certain that the party in the House which is going to gain most in the eyes of the people is that which consults the convenience of the business people. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/02/treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The two elections yesterday.\"", "preceding_text": " point of honour you decline to avail of this offer, and rather than have it said of you that you accept any suggestion, however reasonable, coming from a quarter that you dislike, you have preferred to throw the whole finances of the country into disorder and to occasion very great loss to the taxpayer. I think that the conduct of Gentlemen on that bench will undergo the judgment of the country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/02/treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You would have had the Budget if it were not for yourselves.\"", "preceding_text": "n sight of any bird. The Liberal party, I trust, will never be fools enough to be caught by such chaff as that. The House of Lords has created this financial confusion. 891 I do not wonder that hon. Members above the Gangway are pitiably anxious that something should be done to clear up this financial situation. They are extremely uneasy about the state of finances for which they are responsible. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/02/treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "section": "treasury-temporary-borrowing-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Certainly not.\"", "preceding_text": "or yourselves.\"] Are you going to support the Budget? Answer me that question. You are calling for the Budget to be produced, are you going to support it? Answer me, and I will answer you. The point at issue at this moment is whether the House of Commons, on the invitation of the hon. Gentlemen above the Gangway, is going to recur to the old British principle of having half a dozen Finance Bills. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/02/navy-supplementary-estimate-1909-10", "section": "navy-supplementary-estimate-1909-10", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": "l tell the right hon. Gentleman my authority. There was a most interesting article published in \"The Times\" a few days since, and according to that article, I am still under the impression that, from the date of the first order till the commissioning of the ship, Germany has not produced any \"Dreadnoughts\" in less than thirty-six months; at any rate, they cannot produce them so rapidly as we can. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1910/mar/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/mar/02/navy-supplementary-estimate-1909-10", "section": "navy-supplementary-estimate-1909-10", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who said it?\"", "preceding_text": " BERESFORD When the \"Dreadnought\" was built there was no advertisement of her, but, after she had been built, there was an advertisement held up to all the nations of the world, and particularly to Germany, saying that the new ship could sink the whole of their fleets. It is that advertisement which has run us into this enormous expenditure of money—an expenditure which will go up to £60,000,000. "}