{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/12/blocking-motions", "section": "blocking-motions", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order, order.\"", "preceding_text": "d be deprived of availing themselves of the only chance they get of raising their particular grievances by the action of other independent Members. It is a matter I regret extremely, but, as long as the Rule exists, I am powerless to over-ride these Motions, and I must enforce it. &sect; Mr. WILLIAM O'BRIEN I am extremely grateful for that expression of opinion from you, and I beg to give notice— "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/12/house-of-commons-foreign-treaties", "section": "house-of-commons-foreign-treaties", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " irresponsible man in this House of Commons can get up and complicate matters, and that there are international confidences between Powers in international transactions which should not be divulged, and that it is of the greatest benefit for the peace and amity of people entering into these negotiations that inner negotiations should be 536 confined to as small a company of statesmen as possible. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/12/house-of-commons-foreign-treaties", "section": "house-of-commons-foreign-treaties", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO, no.\"", "preceding_text": "d war and high international politics. The whole thing cannot be better summarised than in two or three pages in the introduction to a little book frequently quoted in Debates here, \"Bagehot's English Constitution.\" Bagehot was not talking of present matters, because he died so far back as 1877. I thank the House for allowing me to speak on a matter on which I am afraid I am in a minority of one. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/12/vaccination", "section": "vaccination", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"HOW much?\"", "preceding_text": "erman Empire corresponding to the office of our Home Secretary. He was very interested in the public health legislation and practice of this country. He remarked to me: \"You have very weak laws with regard to vaccination in your country.\" I replied: \"Yes, I fear we have.\" He responded: \"To us Germans it is a matter of great surprise that you gave the world vaccination and yet you keep small-pox.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/12", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/12/vaccination", "section": "vaccination", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That was before the exemptions took place.\"", "preceding_text": "ber of 100. Actually the highest number was sixty-five in the year 1008. What was our experience during the same decade? We had during the same decade in different years 600, 700 and 800 deaths out of a population of 44,000,000. In 1902 there were 2,545 deaths from small-pox in this country. I confess that, until I came to study the figures I was not aware of our national disgrace in this matter. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/19/clause-4-amendment-of-section-114-of-the", "section": "clause-4-amendment-of-section-114-of-the", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Some of them.\"", "preceding_text": "ey were paid for very dearly. I know it is a fact that the representatives of all the military Governments of Europe make Ireland the happy hunting ground for the supply of horses for their cavalry, wherever they may be. I have read from time to time in the reports of battles on the Continent that Irish horses played no undistinguished part in the various actions. They are sound in wind and limb. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/19", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/19/imperial-conference", "section": "imperial-conference", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_text": "which in the end we should deplore. The third course which is open to us is to co-operate, and if we are to co-operate I am perfectly certain it will be found that we can only do so by some constitutional means. I do not think we can go on as an Empire under the loose system under which we should have with our own Dominions very little modified the relations which we have with the foreign Powers. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": " the Liberal Government was defeated apparently upon a Home Rule issue to remind this House that mandates are things which are very easily talked about, but which are exceedingly difficult to define. Then there is another interesting light upon mandates. I do not know if my election address was one of those supervised by a writer of German mind, whose letter appears in \"The Times\" of this morning—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Certainly.\"", "preceding_text": "t the electors of this country were aware of this departure on the part of the Government is a delusion. I do not believe there is a Member on the opposite side who is prepared to say that the majority who returned him to the House of Commons were absolutely aware of the fact that it was contemplated to pass into law a Home Rule Bill as the direct corollary of the passing of the Parliament Bill . "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "Opposition cheers.", "preceding_text": "-dour, I might almost say with crudity, both by the hon. Member who moved it and still more by the Noble Lord opposite, is this—a suggestion that His Majesty's Government are going to take advantage of the operation of this Clause, if and when it passes into law to secure the assent of Parliament to a measure which, to use the language of the Noble Lord, would be a measure of trickery and deceit. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "which the purposes, intentions, and desires of Liberal and Progressive politicians are set will, at any rate, have an even chance of being carried into law.\" I think it is absurd to attempt to argue from the omission from election addresses of the specific enumeration of particular measures that any one of those measures are left out of account either by the candidates or those whom they address. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HOY. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " spoke—and in view of the shameful things which are being said, I feel bound to emphasise that point—I spoke of our views of the proper solution of the problem of Irish self-government. What I then said I repeat: to it I adhere, and I believe the Liberal party adheres. I do not in the least grudge the Tory party any electioneering capital that they can extract from Mr. Redmond's American dollars— "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " at once without further ado. We defeated it in 1893\". Next time 1393 Observe Lord Lansdowne's prescience. Next time in 1913 it goes through. 1913&#x0021; Two years from the time in which we are now assembled here— In 1913 it goes through if a composite majority can be secured in the House of Commons in its favour. That is the opinion of the Leader of the Conservative party in the House of Lords. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Trickery and deceit.\"", "preceding_text": "as been put into my hands while he was speaking by a friend of mine, and there is in that speech, which took three columns to report, no doubt the passage about Home Rule to which the right hon. Gentleman refers. It is a brief statement, I quite agree it is clear and that there is no ambiguity about it, I have not suggested there was. Hon. Members opposite do not know the ground of our complaint. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "ule in enthusiastic terms, had the least, idea what kind of Home Rule would be passed Yet the two are utterly different. Home Rule which is to bring into being an Executive and Parliament into Ireland is evidently utterly distinct from the Home Rule Bill which is to bring in an Executive and Parliament in Wales, and Executive and Parliament in Scotland, and an Executive and Parliament in England. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "u have thus obtained surreptitiously for a purpose on which I have not the smallest doubt the country would express the strongest possible view could that issue, and that issue alone, be presented to it in isolation. I do not care what the opinions of hon. Gentlemen are. I know I am speaking the absolute truth, and a truth in which hon. Members, wherever they sit in this House, will agree with me—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " put as a clear issue to the people in the interval between 1892 and the last two elections? It is exceedingly simple. It is because Liberal Ministers had come to the conclusion it was no use, to use the words the Prime Minister used many years ago, \"to plough the sands,\" and that, until the Veto of the House of Lords was limited an appeal to this country on the issue of Irish Home Rule was idle. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "e City alderman say? He said the people of this country were witnessing in the visit of the hon. Member for Water-ford (Mr. John Redmond) to Holyhead the development of a great Celtic conspiracy to conquer and trample upon the superior race of these islands, the superior race, he then went on to explain, being the English race. These are the Gentlemen, I say, who call themselves Unionists&#x0021; "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Wait and see.\"", "preceding_text": "and I say it with the deepest conviction, I do not know whether the hon. Member will bear me out or not supposing that his Friends were to-day or to-morrow faced with the alternative of being forced to make a choice between twenty years of Radical Government in this House and Home Rule for Ireland: which would they select? I believe that they would select Home Rule; in fact, I am convinced of it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name.\"", "preceding_text": "t necessarily also be subjected to it, and in the particular 1427 case to which I refer, this is what happened. The question was asked the candidate:— How, under Home Rule, can we safeguard the interests of the Protestant minority in the North of Ireland? Here is the answer:— We shall not give to Ireland any further power than merely to deal with local affairs such as the County Councils do here. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Quote.\"", "preceding_text": "ecretary, the other ego of the Prime Minister; that whatever the Prime Minister knew the Patronage Secretary knew, and whatever the Patronage Secretary knew, he knew, \"and you may take it from me,\" he said, \"that I am in a position to make a full and accurate statement of Liberal policy.\" Then he went on to make his speech, and he told us that there were two Home Rule policies before the country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/home-rule", "section": "home-rule", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "y to acknowledge has not been put forward in any way by the right hon. Gentleman who has just spoken. It is an explanation which falls to pieces when it is examined, and that explanation having gone, what is the next explanation which the Opposition are driven to adopt to explain the uncomfortable but undeniable fact that the electorate has returned a Government supported by a Home Rule majority? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "hould be subject to the assent of the people. 1440 This argument is made all the stronger when we reflect that it was only three or four nights ago that the Government told us that this Bill was not a mere temporary expedient, which we had been led to expect it would be, but that it is, so far as we were able to gather from the right hon. Gentleman's speech, to be a Bill of a permanent character. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "had been led to expect it would be, but that it is, so far as we were able to gather from the right hon. Gentleman's speech, to be a Bill of a permanent character. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] That is cheered by hon. Members below the Gangway opposite. I suppose they will do their very utmost to take care that the scheme of the Bill shall be made permanent so long as this Government is in power. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no,\" and \"Which one?\"", "preceding_text": "ssed through under the provisions of this Bill? Although I admit that it is improbable that a Bill for the abolition of the Monarchy should pass the House of Commons as the matter stands at present, do not let us forget that there is a considerable section, or at any rate a section, of political force in this country which has put in the forefront of their programme the abolition of the Monarchy. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear,\" and \"Ignorant?\"", "preceding_text": "e the Committee an illustration of what I mean. In regard to the prerogative of appointing judges or magistrates, it is quite true that it is exercised by and on the advice of Ministers, but, having regard to events which have recently happened, and which may happen in the immediate future, it is at least possible that an ignorant outcry may arise. Indeed, I am not sure it has not already arisen. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"More than one.\"", "preceding_text": "nds the House of Commons with the people of the country and the whole attitude he assumes is that we are the people of this country. The truth is you may have a House of Commons which does not represent upon some subjects the will of the people. That was loudly said by the Attorney-General and his friends with reference to at least one measure which was passed by the last Unionist Administration. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"Or golf.\"", "preceding_text": "ality between the two sides of the House. This makes him tremble to think that there may be a majority in this House coincident in opinion with the opinion of the other House, and the idea of any such unfair advantage in what he evidently regards 1475 as the game of politics, fills him with the same kind of dismay as unfair rules in the carrying on of any particular contest on the football field. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Unchangeable.\"", "preceding_text": "tion to sign away the only virtue which anybody has claimed for a written Constitution?\" &sect; The SECRETARY of STATE for the HOME DEPARTMENT (Mr. Churchill) The right hon. Gentleman has joined others on the opposite side in paying a tribute to the virtues of the Parliament Bill . They wish to make it permanent; they ask to make these safeguards unchangeable; they regard them now as so valuable. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "ers on the opposite side in paying a tribute to the virtues of the Parliament Bill . They wish to make it permanent; they ask to make these safeguards unchangeable; they regard them now as so valuable. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Unchangeable.\"] That is the request of the Amendment. &sect; Sir P. MAGNUS made a remark which was inaudible. &sect; Mr. CHURCHILL To make the provisions of this Bill unalterable. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "t what the right hon. Gentleman is asking is not an even-handed arrangement. By what he is asking his party would be free to alter this instrument or to abolish it altogether. Is it not their own declaration that they intend to alter it when they have a majority? The right hon. Gentleman's contention is that his party should be free to alter the system to a very different one any time they liked. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Destroying the Constitution.\"", "preceding_text": "as at least entitled to stability which shall last until the Preamble is carried into effect, and we get the further instalment that he has promised us. This is not a question whether a Bill is organic or otherwise. It is an answer to the right hon. Gentleman to say that this Bill is primary, and deserves proper treatment at his hands, inasmuch as it is inadequate for rebuilding the Constitution. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": ". Are they going to amend the Bill by reducing the two Sessions to one Session? We have been told it is fair the House of Lords should have power to defer, and we have had to-night the first anticipation of the kind of speech we shall have when the House of Lords use their powers under this Bill. They will still, after the passing of this Bill, be subject to vexatious and malevolent interference. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.", "preceding_text": "e Chamber Government in the time of Cromwell was such a success that no such safeguards are now required? Our experience in Cromwell's time of Single Chamber Government was the most arbitrary that ever existed. Is there anything in the composition of this House or of the present Government which leads the right hon. Gentleman opposite to suppose that safeguards of this kind can be dispensed with? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, studied and silent insolence.\"", "preceding_text": " to the House it proposed to reform. &sect; Viscount HELMSLEY The intervention of the hon. Member for the Kirkcaldy Burghs (Sir Henry Dalziel) is at least more welcome, even although it is irrelevant than the studied and silent insolence of hon. Members opposite, who made no attempt whatever to listen to any arguments that are made. &sect; The CHAIRMAN Did the Noble Lord use the word \"insolence?\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/powers-of-crown", "section": "powers-of-crown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order,\" and \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_text": "hat this House alone 1513 should not carry it, but that it should under the Constitution of this country have to be passed by both Houses which make the constituent power of Parliament. That argument deserves some consideration. It does not deserve the ignominious treatment which the hon. Members seem to give it—treatment which arises as much from the assurance of their majority as from ignorance—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/welsh-disestablishment", "section": "welsh-disestablishment", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Will the hon. Gentleman give the names?\"", "preceding_text": "Can the Prime Minister really suggest that in the case of Welsh Disestablishment the country was consulted at all? In what way? Take the election addresses. First of all I take the election 1521 addresses of the members for Wales who support the Government. Twenty-one of the Government candidates for Welsh constituencies issued election addresses. Of those only eight mentioned the subject at all. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/welsh-disestablishment", "section": "welsh-disestablishment", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Will the hon. Gentleman give the names of the twenty-one candidates? \"", "preceding_text": "gious equality may be I do not know, except if you are going to equally confiscate endowments of other religious bodies besides those of the Church. 1.0 A.M. On this great and burning question at all events the Welsh people are supposed to have made up their minds, yet only eight out of twenty-one candidates thought fit to mention the subject at all, and two others spoke about religious equality. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/welsh-disestablishment", "section": "welsh-disestablishment", "cue_text": "Some laughter.", "preceding_text": "was passed between England and Ireland the churches of England and of Ireland were united, and it was enacted \"that the continuance and preservation of the said united church shall be deemed and taken to be an essential and fundamental part of the union.\" Of course, I am aware it suits them because the Church of Ireland has been disestablished. Yes, but that was by the concurrence of both Houses. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/welsh-disestablishment", "section": "welsh-disestablishment", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_text": "per of 3rd December, 1910, the Bishop of St. David's said:— As a Bishop whose diocese Mr. Asquith is pledged to deprive of 87,500 out of 94,000 a year of endowments, I appeal to churchmen to vote for the Unionist proposal of a Referendum on all matters of great gravity. The Bishop wanted the Referendum. Well we have had the Referendum, so far as this matter is concerned, in Wales for forty years. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/welsh-disestablishment", "section": "welsh-disestablishment", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And disendowment?\"", "preceding_text": "blishment in Wales, and that the veto hitherto possessed by the peers shall be overridden. I think that in this Parliament we shall have religious equality. It is a strange thing to me that the hon. Member (Colonel Griffith-Boscawen) in his brief candidature was not told by one of the miners what religious equality meant in Wales. Religious equality and disestablishment are really the same thing. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/24", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/24/welsh-disestablishment", "section": "welsh-disestablishment", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_text": "ch either in England or Wales is not like the establishment of the Church in Ireland under the Act of Union, but is one of more ancient constitutional usages which had grown up before Parliament itself came into existence. &sect; Mr. EDGAR JONES On a point of Order. If the hon. Member is allowed to discuss the question of the different types of establishment we shall be here for a very long time. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Oh, yes.\"", "preceding_text": "nother and the only other solution which, as far as I know has been suggested, and that is a Joint Session between the two branches of the Legislature. I mentioned the fact that that is the remedy which has been adopted by two of our great self-governing Dominions, Australia and South Africa. I do not know, although it is adopted in those two Constitutions, that it has ever yet been re sorted to. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "s been suggested, and that is a Joint Session between the two branches of the Legislature. I mentioned the fact that that is the remedy which has been adopted by two of our great self-governing Dominions, Australia and South Africa. I do not know, although it is adopted in those two Constitutions, that it has ever yet been re sorted to. [HON. MEMBERS: Oh, yes.\"] Perhaps on very trivial occasions. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": " my hon. Friend behind me in which the question of the numerical magnitude of the majority was taken into account. The right hon. Gentleman said there was no precedent in our Constitution to deal with questions in that way. We come now to the Amendment moved by my learned Friend, and the Prime Minister brushes it aside, saying, inaccurately that the method proposed has not been used in Australia. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "Session is the simplest and best 1673 method by which that growth of confidence can be brought about. &sect; Mr. J. M. HENDERSON This Amendment presupposes two Houses which are coequal. That may be the constitution of some countries; it is not the constitution of this. If you are to have Joint Sessions it must mean that the vote of the other House is to count as equal with the vote of this House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": " BANBURY The hon. Gentleman opposite has rather misunderstood Professor Dicey. The whole position is that the House of Lords surrenders, not to the House of Commons, but to the people. That is the whole difference between hon. Gentlemen on that side of the House and hon. Gentlemen on this side of the House. We are always prepared to obey the will of the people when that will has been ascertained. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "nment accepting this Amendment, because I have long since come to the conclusion that any Amendment, however reasonable, proposed on this side of the House, will not be accepted. Perhaps for the moment I forget that the suggestion I put forward was promised consideration on Report, and it is possible that I may have had some influence on the Government, but I am afraid we are rather wasting time. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "endment is to be rejected by the House because it would only be effective if the Government carry out their policy. &sect; Mr. NIELD I understand that the non-acceptance of this Amendment is based upon the theory that the Government have a mandate for this Bill, line by line, Clause by Clause, \"the Bill, the whole Bill, and nothing but the Bill.\" Anything more ridiculous and absurd I never heard. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Equator\"", "preceding_text": " and proper means of dealing with legislation in future. On the other side of the House the hon. Member for Dudley (Colonel Griffith-Boscawen) is waiting to propose that the Bill should be four times passed through the House instead of twice, as the hon. Member for Kirkcaldy suggests. Between the North and the South Pole the Government occupy the temperate zone. and we shall continue to occupy it—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "Several HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "is present Parliament. We are not ashamed to say that we want to get as much as we can out of this Bill and out of the present Parliament, and for that reason I should like the Government to accept this extremely 1708 moderate proposal. I am in favour of the establishment of a strong elective Upper House, but we are agreed on both sides that that reform cannot be brought into immediate operation. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "Several HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "vour of the establishment of a strong elective Upper House, but we are agreed on both sides that that reform cannot be brought into immediate operation. [Several HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] Hon. Members opposite are as clearly convinced of that as any Member on this side. They know that it is impossible to set up a reformed elective House of Lords immediately, however ardently they may desire to do it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"I thought you would.\"", "preceding_text": "hemselves, and the sooner the Government closure this Bill through without discussion the more nearly will they be brought to shame, and the further they will be from all the true principles of democracy and self-government. The question remains how are we to vote in this Division? I should certainly myself vote for eliminating the word in the Bill because I think the word \"four\" would be better. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No; but against three.\"", "preceding_text": "as 1713 equally entertaining in his support of my proposal. The Noble Lord said some, thing about the word \"hypocrisy\" in the course of his speech. I do not think it necessary at this stage to analyse the application of that word too closely Hon. Gentlemen opposite say they are in favour of four Sessions as against two, and the Government position is for three, but they are going to vote for two. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_text": " course of his speech. I do not think it necessary at this stage to analyse the application of that word too closely Hon. Gentlemen opposite say they are in favour of four Sessions as against two, and the Government position is for three, but they are going to vote for two. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No; but against three.\"] The division on the Amendment I moved would be a division as between three and two. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "nst two, and the Government position is for three, but they are going to vote for two. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No; but against three.\"] The division on the Amendment I moved would be a division as between three and two. [Hon. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"] I am perfectly well aware of the Parliamentary way in which the question will be put, but in effect it will be a division as between three Sessions and two Sessions. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "ight at all times, to move any Amendment to any measure which the Government may bring forward, but we shall exercise our discretion as to the way we play the game; and I am convinced from the expression of disappointment on the faces of hon. Gentlemen opposite that we are right. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the Amendment. &sect; The CHAIRMAN Is it your pleasure that the Amendment be withdrawn? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "more, but two years is the minimum. As to the amount of discussion a Bill will receive in each of those years it is beyond my power to forecast. The House of Lords, at any rate, will have full opportunity of discussion under the provisions of this Bill in the two Sessions in which a measure goes up to them. The House of Commons, after all, is the custodian and trustee of the rights of free speech—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The House of Lords.\"", "preceding_text": " of those years it is beyond my power to forecast. The House of Lords, at any rate, will have full opportunity of discussion under the provisions of this Bill in the two Sessions in which a measure goes up to them. The House of Commons, after all, is the custodian and trustee of the rights of free speech—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]—and if they are not I should like to know who is the custodian. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "one year. I think that is rather a different point from the one raised by my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon, whose Amendment limits the Session to seventy days. &sect; The CHAIRMAN I agree the hon. Member's Amendment is quite in order. 1731 &sect; Mr. JAMES HOPE Under these circumstances I ask leave to withdraw the Amendment. &sect; The CHAIRMAN Is it your pleasure the Amendment be withdrawn? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It has been done.\"", "preceding_text": "ll. &sect; The CHAIRMAN I am much obliged to the right hon. Gentleman for asking me 1732 that question. There are Amendments down to insert \"the Second Reading\" and \"the passing of the Bill,\" and it was my intention to allow one of those. &sect; The PRIME MINISTER The Noble Lord has actually suggested the hypothesis that a Government might fraudulently introduce a Bill under the Ten Minutes Rule. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Distrust\"", "preceding_text": "way supplant the work of the House of Commons, but it would ensure that no general policy was carried out in its entirety without the express approval of the people of this country at a general election. I would like hon. Members opposite to remember that their great leader, Mr. Gladstone, laid it down that Liberalism was trust of the people, while, as he said, Conservatism was fear of the people—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/apr/25", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/apr/25/clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "section": "clause-2-restriction-of-the-powers-of", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We are sick of it.\"", "preceding_text": "ur of the Bill it shall.\" &sect; Mr. HERBERT SAMUEL I beg to move, \"That the Chairman do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again.\" &sect; Earl WINTERTON I wish to ask what business will be taken to-morrow. I have no objection to any arrangement made behind the Chair, but private Members' time is now so much infringed that I think these arrangements should 1758 be publicly stated to the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes", "section": "labour-disputes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_text": "m trade unionists? &sect; Mr. CHURCHILL Non-union men are now by law entitled to continue their employment without molestation; and, so far as it is in the power of the police, they will be protected in the exercise of this right. MARQUESS of TULLIBARDINE May I ask if the right hon. Gentleman is unaware that several non-union men have 1919 been prevented from earning their livelihood by strikers? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes", "section": "labour-disputes", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_text": "t were dragged brutally along the streets merely because they could not get out of the road of the patrols quickly enough? &sect; Mr. SPEAKER The hon. Gentleman is asking as to a number of specific allegations of which notice should be given. It would be better if he would raise the matter on the Appropriation Bill . &sect; Mr. LANSBURY I did raise this question days ago—I think almost a week ago—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes", "section": "labour-disputes", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_text": " could not get out of the road of the patrols quickly enough? &sect; Mr. SPEAKER The hon. Gentleman is asking as to a number of specific allegations of which notice should be given. It would be better if he would raise the matter on the Appropriation Bill . &sect; Mr. LANSBURY I did raise this question days ago—I think almost a week ago—[Interruption]—I do not know whether you want people's blood—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes", "section": "labour-disputes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "r than at their heads, and whether he thinks it is in the interests of peace to use the soldiers in that sort of brutal murderous manner? &sect; Mr. CHURCHILL I do not know as to the facts. 1927 &sect; Mr. LANSBURY The right hon. Gentleman told us we had seen the news in the Press. The Press states that. I want to ask whether he thinks that is consistent with trying to get arrangements for peace. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes", "section": "labour-disputes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": " in the Press. The Press states that. I want to ask whether he thinks that is consistent with trying to get arrangements for peace. [Interruption.] &sect; Mr. SPEAKER The hon. Member has not given notice of his question and can hardly expect a full reply. The other matter is a matter of opinion. &sect; Mr. LANSBURY The slaughter of innocent people is not a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/government-of-scotland", "section": "government-of-scotland", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No Lords?\"", "preceding_text": "n of the burden should be taken off the Parliamentary machine, that the purely domestic matters should be discussed in the various countries concerned, and that this House should be freer to deal with entirely Imperial affairs. The measure we propose provides that on an appointed day there shall be a legislature in Scotland consisting of His Majesty the King and a House of Repre- 1931 sentatives. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes-1", "section": "labour-disputes-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Of shelving disputes.\"", "preceding_text": "h 1948 agreements made under the the arbitration of the Board of Trade have failed to obtain acceptance by the men after their leaders have signed them. Another feature is the attacks which have broken out in various places against the system of Conciliation Boards for which the Government are responsible. Those Conciliation Boards offered to the railway men a peaceful means of settling disputes. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes-1", "section": "labour-disputes-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They have gone down.\"", "preceding_text": "e the house owner, the man who can extract rent from them, has simply been watching every change in their circumstances for the purpose of putting up the rent. During this period I have in my mind, I find that in the East End of our large cities—the places most affected by these unfortunate circumstances—Cardiff, London, Manchester, and elsewhere—house rents have gone up a substantial percentage. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes-1", "section": "labour-disputes-1", "cue_text": "Several HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": "n. Member opposite began his speech with a humorous touch, quite foreign to this serious Debate. He reproached this side of the House with not raising the question of the condition of the people and the amount of the wages paid to the poor. I should have thought the House was tired of that question being raised on these benches. It is the burden of song of all those who speak about Tariff Reform. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes-1", "section": "labour-disputes-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh.\"", "preceding_text": "from a strike committee to do what he ought to do under the protection of officers of the Crown. I would like to draw the Home Secretary's attention to these two points: Whether the anarchy in London was justifiable, and. whether it was not a very serious thing, for the whole trade in London that lorries; and carts should be overturned in all directions without the police being able to interfere? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes-1", "section": "labour-disputes-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh\"", "preceding_text": "Y Certainly he does; but I understood the policeman died from-natural causes. &sect; Mr. HARRY LAWSON He died from natural causes, but in the discharge of his duty, and probably from over-exertion in dealing with the Liverpool mob. I ask the Home Secretary to consider whether he can take such measures as will prevent the possibility of our city being disgraced in the way in which it was last week—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/labour-disputes-1", "section": "labour-disputes-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, 1989 hear.\"", "preceding_text": "h appear to be well founded I will have them investigated as soon as a reasonable chance and opportunity is afforded, and when matters regain their normal condition. For the rest I must refer the members of the public who feel themselves aggrieved to the courts, which are open to them. I do not know whether the House would care to have two official reports which have been received from Liverpool. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/aug/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/aug/16/business-or-supply-scottish-estimates", "section": "business-or-supply-scottish-estimates", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "s that I was told that before. Now I see the Postmaster-General coming in. When we had the Post Office Vote before us I raised the same question in regard to Sutherland-shire that I am going to raise now, but I got no reply at all. The Postmaster-General went away, and the Assistant Postmaster-General did not appear to know anything about it. I commented on the Estimate being completed that night—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "nary demonstration of legislative fecundity. I am not going to speculate, I do not feel in any way bound to speculate, as to the motives which have led to this exuberant efflorescence. It is unprecedented; it is singular. It is singular for this reason. These 130 new Clauses, ranging over the whole domain of finance, and raising, I believe, almost every question which was considered and discussed—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Two o'clock.\"", "preceding_text": "ect; The PRIME MINISTER The right hon. Gentleman is quite wrong. The two days are made out of that sitting and of the Friday sitting. Mr. BALFOUR The House debated the Bill from four o'clock one afternoon till about ten o'clock the next morning. From that the right hon. Gentleman deducts eight hours, and he therefore considers there was a legitimate discussion up till four o'clock in the morning. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_text": ", I presume, did not contemplate last year, and which, as introduced this year, are entirely novel proposals, going to the root of the finance of every local authority in the kingdom. The right hon. Gentleman, in a spirit of paradox audacious and almost unexcelled, represents these proposals as a concession to this House. Is there a single man off the Treasury Bench who thinks it is a concession? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "Cheers", "preceding_text": "edge was broken, but whether ample time was given. Following upon that, the right hon. Gentleman, speaking for the Conservative party, assumes that he and they alone are the only section of the House that is to be considered when the Government is devising its business and adjusting its programme. I desire on behalf of a minority, of a party in this House quite as independent as the Conservatives—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who said so?\"", "preceding_text": " of Amendments and the devising of new Clauses for this Bill. Not that the Bill itself might be made better than it is, not that this House might re-assert its control over business and not that the taxpayers of the country might be benefited, but all these things were to be done, all these conclaves were to meet and all these Amendments to be put upon the paper to throw the Bill over 31st March. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We might be better off if we were.\"", "preceding_text": "ider the multiplication of taxation or considering the interests of the taxpayers as real business. Nothing of the kind is real business in his opinion. He must begin the work of destroying the Constitution of the United Kingdom. I submit that at the present moment representative Government does not exist. Things could not be worse if we were living under the uncontrolled tyranny of an oligarchy. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The House of Lords.\"", "preceding_text": "f if we were.\"] I am rather inclined to agree with that hon. Member who says, \"We might be better off if we were.\" Take, for instance, these proceedings. I submit to hon. Members on both sides of this House that they are a gross breach of faith, and an unnecessary attack upon the privileges of this House. Who was responsible for there not being sufficient time to discuss the finances of the year? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The whole of them.\"", "preceding_text": "lready on the Statute Book, and which must be done by the machinery of the new clauses. I think the House should maintain that control.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 21st November, 1910, cols. 204&#x2013;205.] That is just what we on this side of the House wish to do. There may be 136 or 138 new Clauses—I have not counted them—but there are some, at all events, which are brought forward in a business sense. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": "cies which we, every one, boast of when talking to our Constituents, the whole system, in a word, is not an absolute farce from beginning to end I In my opinion the action that the Prime Minister is taking on this occasion in moving this Motion is serving to back up the speech that was made by the right hon. Gentleman's corner-stone—the hon. Gentleman the Member for South Hackney (Mr. Bottomley). "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": " am very glad that they did not come to amicable terms with the Opposition. Or they could pass this guillotine Resolution, which we have before us. I do not like guillotine resolutions as a rule, but if it is the only alternative to coming to terms with the Opposition I prefer it. It is certainly necessary that this Budget, which is last year's Budget, should be passed into law before 31st March. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It will save about a million\"", "preceding_text": " why. &sect; Mr. WEDGWOOD Because of the end of the financial year. &sect; Mr. A. CHAMBERLAIN Why is it necessary to pass it before the end of the financial year? It was not necessary to pass the Budget of 1909 by the end of the financial year, and the Government declined to attempt to do so. It is not, therefore, in the nature of Budgets that they must be passed by the end of the financial year. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Fridays are not full Parliamentary days.\"", "preceding_text": "lsory financial business before the 31st March without taking the time of private Members. We took the time of private Members, as I make it out. thirteen and a-half days of private Members' time. We took six Tuesdays and six Wednesdays, each of which are half Parliamentary days. That makes six Parliamentary days, and we took seven Fridays which are counted as ordinary days, making thirteen days. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "section": "allocation-of-time-prime-ministers-motion", "cue_text": "Ironical cheers.", "preceding_text": " compelled at 4.15 a.m. to discuss Clause 10, which was of the utmost importance, indeed of immense importance to all local authorities of this country. I quite agree with what one of my hon. Friends has said that many of the new Clauses have been put down in a business spirit. I should like to point out one which was put down in that spirit, and that was the Clause which I placed upon the Paper. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/new-clause-amendment-of-s-16-2-b-of-the", "section": "new-clause-amendment-of-s-16-2-b-of-the", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"NO.\"", "preceding_text": "cause I believed it would have that effect. If, however, we are to have the builder substituted for the landlord, it seems to me that we are not getting much \"forrader.\" At the point reached by the hon. Member opposite we had succeeded by the operation of this tax in inducing the landlord to part with the land. He has presumably parted with it more cheaply than he would have done but for the tax. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/new-clause-contiguous-pieces-of-land", "section": "new-clause-contiguous-pieces-of-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "a town we now have it that it is intended to tax land used for agricultural purposes as soon as it is established that it is wanted for building purposes. The Under-Secretary for India took exception in rather strong terms to a leaflet which was issued, and in which it was stated that agricultural land was liable to taxation. Now we have it clearly established in this House that that is the case. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/new-clause-contiguous-pieces-of-land", "section": "new-clause-contiguous-pieces-of-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_text": "ide of the House wanted. The reason why the Amendment is brought forward is perfectly clear, and simple. It asks that this concession to the owners of contiguous tenancies should only avail when they are adjoining the same road or road that is to be. It exactly meets the case brought forward by the hon. Member for the Kingston Division (Mr. Cave) and by the hon. and gallant Member for Chelmsford. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/new-clause-contiguous-pieces-of-land", "section": "new-clause-contiguous-pieces-of-land", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no\"", "preceding_text": "nner said, \"I hope my hon. Friends will never consent to obstruction.\" What have they been doing during the last two hours. \"I hope my hon. Friends who vote for this guillotine Motion will see that everything is done to hurry through this particular Bill in order that the Parliament Bill may go on.\" What have hon. Members below the Gangway done? They have taken advantage of their Leader's absence—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/consolidated-fund-no-1-bill", "section": "consolidated-fund-no-1-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "e fact, which is true, that this country gets a preference from Canada. It is not entitled to that preference; it is given voluntarily by the people of Canada, or rather by the Liberal party, and it was opposed vigorously at the time by the Conservative party and by the manufacturers of Canada. That British preference depends entirely upon the continuance in office of the Liberal party in Canada. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/mar/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/mar/27/consolidated-fund-no-1-bill", "section": "consolidated-fund-no-1-bill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": " or river did—at Fambridge, prove conclusively that that in the main the men are capable, when properly led, of doing this kind of work. In proof of that the Central Unemployed Body twice over carried the scheme. I admit that the other day they gave up the battle with the right hon. Gentleman, but thirteen distress committees have appealed to their Members in this House, and I will read them out.—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/09/parliament-bill", "section": "parliament-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "d consist in round figures of eighty Members representing the Opposition, and twenty Members supporting the Government proposals. The delegation from the House of Commons would consist of fifty-nine Members supporting the Government proposals and forty-one Members representing the Opposition. There would, therefore be seventy-nine supporters of the Government, and 121 opponents of the Government. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/09/parliament-bill", "section": "parliament-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order, order.\"", "preceding_text": "cussion. The Government say that this is an illustration of the way the Opposition are bringing forward their Amendments time after time. We bring them forward time after time because the Government are incapable of answering our arguments. The Government may take what course they think fit. Let the country understand that this is what the Prime Minister of a self-respecting, responsible Assembly—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/09/clause-1-powers-of-house-of-lords-as-to", "section": "clause-1-powers-of-house-of-lords-as-to", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_text": "e will want some better security than the conviction which the Postmaster-General tells us he entertains that the position of the Chair would not suffer. I am afraid that it is only too certain that it would suffer. It is said that the impartiality of the Chair has always been above suspicion. So it has, but would it he above suspicion in the future if this disastrous experiment is persevered in. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/09/clause-1-powers-of-house-of-lords-as-to", "section": "clause-1-powers-of-house-of-lords-as-to", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "nt future. While those who have come to occupy the Chair under the traditions that have always ruled in this House would, we may depend upon it, be absolutely impartial, although as I have just said, they might not escape suspicion of impartiality when they decided on such critical matters, yet how would the thing work in the distant future? We are legislating, not for a mere temporary expedient. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/09/clause-1-powers-of-house-of-lords-as-to", "section": "clause-1-powers-of-house-of-lords-as-to", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "gh as I have just said, they might not escape suspicion of impartiality when they decided on such critical matters, yet how would the thing work in the distant future? We are legislating, not for a mere temporary expedient. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"] We are, and the sentiment is cheered opposite, creating legislation which is to be permanent as affecting the relations between the two Houses. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/09", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/09/clause-1-powers-of-house-of-lords-as-to", "section": "clause-1-powers-of-house-of-lords-as-to", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "ifference or distinction between the two. If there be any distinction I am advised, if it is possible to draw a distinction where no distinction exists, that the words used by the Government would be a little more restrictive than the words which the hon. Member proposes to apply. What is the Bill? It is a Bill which contains \"provisions which deal only with any or all of the following subjects.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/11/income-tax-collection", "section": "income-tax-collection", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Brass.\"", "preceding_text": " Something was said about certain persons being brazen. I do not know what quality that requires. But for Gentlemen who never paid a penny into the old Sinking Fund to taunt those who paid £11,000,000 into it, and for those who increased the debt by £140,000,000 to taunt those who reduced it by £55,000,000, and who are making arrangements to reduce it still further, I wonder what quality that is. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/11/income-tax-collection", "section": "income-tax-collection", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": " that they were prepared in order to conceal from the House of Commons what actually occurred. Let me take these questions one by one. First, the Secretary to the Treasury said it was a mistake of a subordinate official. We do not usually mean by that the head of a department. Further inquiries showed that this subordinate official was Sir Robert Chalmers, the head of the Board of Inland Revenue. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/11/income-tax-collection", "section": "income-tax-collection", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"3rd April.\"", "preceding_text": "nd the questions afterwards, and I think really—and I leave this with absolute confidence to the House—that it would have been fairer of the hon. Member if he had withdrawn the charge. Mr. CLEMENT EDWARDS On a point of Order. The hon. Member (Mr. Bonar Law) stated that the supplementary question to the first question put on 6th April had reference to some questions that had been put on 4th April. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/11/private-business-1", "section": "private-business-1", "cue_text": "By Order.", "preceding_text": "PRIVATE BUSINESS. (Hansard, 11 May 1911) Search Help HANSARD 1803&ndash;2005 &rarr; 1910s &rarr; 1911 &rarr; May 1911 &rarr; 11 May 1911 &rarr; Commons Sitting &rarr; CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENT ESTIMATES, 1911&#x2013;12 [Progress.] PRIVATE BUSINESS. HC Deb 11 May 1911 vol 25 cc1466-85 1466 &sect; SLIGO CORPORATION BILL .—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/11/civil-services-and-revenue-departments", "section": "civil-services-and-revenue-departments", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "jority of the county council, of party action, is making a charge which I am surprised he should make, and I am surprised that hon. Gentlemen should cheer it. After all, what is the charge which hon. Gentlemen opposite cheer. It is that my hon. Friend in his capacity as leader of the majority in the county council recommended for a particular appointment, the chief finance officer of the council. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/11/civil-services-and-revenue-departments", "section": "civil-services-and-revenue-departments", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A majority of one.\"", "preceding_text": "loyed. What puzzles us more than anything else in this case is the action of the Government. We are not always claiming to be representatives of the people or to be true democrats, but we are in this case the democrats and the Chancellor of the Exchequer is a tyrannical autocrat. My hon. Friend is the representative of the majority on a popularly elected body which represents the whole of London. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/expenditure-1911-12", "section": "expenditure-1911-12", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_text": "l 25 c1853 1853 &sect; I now come to the expenditure of 1911&#x2013;12. There are five items of expenditure to which I shall have to call special attention. Most of them, but not all, are known to the House. The first is a very considerable and exceptional increase in Navy expenditure. Naval expenditure this year is up by £4,006,000. That represents a total increase in three years of £12,204,000. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/payment-of-members", "section": "payment-of-members", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_text": ". It is very difficult for Members to attend to their ordinary avocations and public affairs at the same time. Those who are able to attend at all to public affairs find their time affected very seriously by attending to Parliamentary duties. I have examined and will give the scale of payment of Members abroad and in the Colonies. The United States of America heads the list with £1,500 per annum. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/payment-of-members", "section": "payment-of-members", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": " the pay is £400 per annum, but I cannot find whether there is included free railway travelling. &sect; We do not propose to be as generous as the United States of America, or to be as just as Germany. We propose to take a course somewhere between, and to follow the precedent of some of the Colonies. We propose to fix the pay at £400 per annum, but without any travelling expenses, and no pension. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/payment-of-members", "section": "payment-of-members", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "nd to follow the precedent of some of the Colonies. We propose to fix the pay at £400 per annum, but without any travelling expenses, and no pension. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I am sorry to disappoint hon. Members. There are 670 Members of this House. There are thirty-eight in receipt of salaries either as Ministers, or as officers of the House, or as officers of the Household. They will be excluded. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/reduction-of-debt", "section": "reduction-of-debt", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "ty to the extent of £12,452,000. Now we have been criticised very severely, and especially in the last few years, on the assumption that the Government have done nothing for the reduction of debt. You might imagine that we had ceased to deal with the National Debt altogether in the last two or three years and that we have raided the Sinking Fund for the purposes I think of bribery and corruption. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/imporved-trade", "section": "imporved-trade", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Can you keep it?\"", "preceding_text": "rch Help HANSARD 1803&ndash;2005 &rarr; 1910s &rarr; 1911 &rarr; May 1911 &rarr; 16 May 1911 &rarr; Commons Sitting &rarr; BILL PRESENTED. IMPORVED TRADE. HC Deb 16 May 1911 vol 25 cc1859-60 1859 &sect; But what is the position. Our trade has gone up by leaps and bounds. In 1908 our foreign trade was £1,050,000,000, and last year it was £1,213,000,000. So that there has been an enormous increase. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The consumption is less.\"", "preceding_text": "ng that the movement in the direction of temperance, which was first detected by myself, is still proceeding, and that it indicates a change in the habits of 1881 the people. But the whisky trade is booming. He said that the £1,600,000 which he expected first of all, fell to £800,000, but now he is going to get £1,800,000, so that temperance has gone by the board and the finance is up in the air. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_text": " way that the party opposite desire. We have asked them time and again to state their case, to lay their cards on the table, and to let us know exactly what they mean by Tariff Reform. In my own Constituency they appealed for support by offering taxation of foreign refined sugar. I do not know whether hon. Members opposite will support a tax on 1924 foreign refined sugar coming into this country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Death Duties.\"", "preceding_text": "e hollowness of the pretence. The great contribution to these purposes of social reform and social amelioration is being made by the wealthy class of this country, who pay taxes upon considerable incomes. The great contribution is the contribution of Income Tax. There was a certain contribution, no doubt, from the new Whisky Duty, but the great contribution has been from the new Income Taxpayers. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They do it in chocolate.\"", "preceding_text": "der a Free Trade system as regards cocoa, can equally carry on a large world-wide trade. 1933 As far as the manufacture of cocoa as opposed to chocolate is concerned, I admit that there is a good deal in that argument, but the moment you apply it to chocolate it absolutely breaks down. You do not find in Holland any Holland firm doing any large world-wide trade in chocolates, but you do in cocoa. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We could not be ignorant after reading your book.\"", "preceding_text": "er more detailed, and that is with regard to cocoa butter. The hon. Member did not mention it, and I have no doubt it is a subject upon which hon. Members below the Gangway are absolutely ignorant. I have read a good many references that have been made by their supporters in the Midlands to this subject, and the remarks they have made have proved to me the ignorance with which they spoke upon it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "ures. If they were put on a Finance Committee to analyse the expenditure I think we would save many millions in the course of the year. The Chancellor of the Exchequer said that there was more work in the country. It is not so. There is more work, but it is in Canada! We have been exporting abroad nearly five thousand men weekly. There are towns in Scotland near Dundee that have been depopulated. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is 9d.\"", "preceding_text": "y. We are all interested in taxation whether high or low, rich or poor. The Income Tax for many years has always been looked upon as a legitimate source of 1943 revenue for the country, but let me remind the House that only four years ago the Prime Minister said that an Income Tax of 1s. in the £ was impossible to justify and difficult to defend. Now we have got an Income Tax at 1s. 2d. in the £. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"He does.\"", "preceding_text": "working classes, and he said he would not advocate Tariff Reform if he did not think that would be the result. I do not for one moment believe that it will be the result. I would like to point out that while we import £156,000,000 worth of goods we export something like £320,000,000 worth. If you tax a foreigner and keep out his goods, what is to prevent him taxing you and keeping out your goods? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"Who said it would?\"", "preceding_text": "ry, \"What do I propose to do? I propose to put a 10 per cent. duty on foreign manufactured goods and this will realise ten million sterling. It will be for the industrial community to say what shall be done with that ten millions. \"He also said, \"You will do more. You will keep the goods out.\" I wonder how it will be possible to keep the goods out and at the same time to realise this £10,000,000. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/16/customs-duty-on-tea", "section": "customs-duty-on-tea", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "er (Mr. Chiozza Money). He objected to indirect taxation altogether, and wanted all Income Tax. There is a good deal to be said for that proposal, but I should like hon. Members to tell us definitely at what rate of income they want the tax to commence —at £400 a year, or £50 or £80. Then we can go to our Constituents and say that the Labour Members want to put Income Tax on men with 15s. a week. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/26/mr-speaker-leave-of-absence", "section": "mr-speaker-leave-of-absence", "cue_text": "The House signified its assent by general cheers.", "preceding_text": "lowed to claim the personal indulgence of the House for a very few moments. I may say I have been strongly recommended by my medical adviser to take a somewhat more prolonged holiday than the House is prepared to allow to itself at Whitsuntide, and I propose, if the House will give me its assent, to take a few extra days before and after the comparatively short holiday the House is going to take. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/26/poor-law-london-bill", "section": "poor-law-london-bill", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "can be administered. I have heard a great many discussions on this subject, and I have heard, I think, a good many people say things which are more or less beside the point. The first thing is that the London County Council is tremendously overworked. So far as my experience goes, and it is only a very limited one, I agree that the London County Council is a model for businesslike administration. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/26/poor-law-london-bill", "section": "poor-law-london-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "yone else, in a desire to promote the interests and well being of the poorer classes of our country. I should be rather inclined, if I had the time, to follow the hon. Member who referred to it into the land question; but I will not do that except to say that we recognise that one of the real remedies for poverty and overcrowding in the town is to get more people to live in the country districts. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/26/poor-law-london-bill", "section": "poor-law-london-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "stablish an authority which was ostensibly a Poor Law authority and then give it these powers in relation to pensions and invalidity insurance. If they do not do that who is going to do these things? The county council at present looks after the pension business so far as that business is clone by the local authority. At all events these committees get their chief support from the county council. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/26/poor-law-london-bill", "section": "poor-law-london-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": " than a Grand Committee of this House, especially if we can have the 655 advantage of discussing at the same time the Bill which is proposed by the Noble Lord. That, of course, is out of our hands. I do most earnestly venture to urge upon the right hon. Gentleman that when he finds that on broad principles the representatives of London on both sides of the House are agreed to a very great extent. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/may/26", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/may/26/poor-law-london-bill", "section": "poor-law-london-bill", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": " would not be justified in shrinking from the task if it were put upon me in consequence of the serious danger, almost disaster, which would accrue both to the Insurance Bill and the Poor Law under the circumstances dictated by this Bill. I am not afraid of the responsibility. This Bill on 663 a Friday, on the Motion of a private Member, abolishes thirty-nine local bodies in the county of London. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/03", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/03/naval-prize-bill", "section": "naval-prize-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "h a large proportion of neutrals upon it would give decisions in favour of neutrals than do the National Courts at the present time? An observation has come from hon. Gentlemen opposite that the law the Court is going to administer will be less favourable to us on the whole, but if you look at the code that has been adopted for it you will find our view of that law has in most cases been adopted. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/03", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/03/clause-23-appointment-of-british-judge", "section": "clause-23-appointment-of-british-judge", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He admitted it.\"", "preceding_text": "arried that the other Sections relating to the setting up of the Court would be left out. It is really trifling with the subject to speak in that way. The right hon. Gentleman says that the argument of my hon. and learned Friend was that because he disapproved of the Declaration of London the International Court should not be set up. That was not the argument of my hon. and learned Friend at all. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/03", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/03/clause-25-appeals-to-international-prize", "section": "clause-25-appeals-to-international-prize", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes he is.\"", "preceding_text": "ships into men-of-war on the high seas, he will state to the House what action the Government will take if foreign merchant ships are so converted, and whether, in the event of such ships preying upon our mercantile marine, they will be treated as pirates when caught? What did the right hon. Gentleman reply? For once he was not evasive. I must not say too much against him, because he is not here. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"This side too.\"", "preceding_text": "tion to discuss the matter. I have had no opportunity of considering those people who have written many letters to me, and no doubt to all Scotch Members, pointing out the differences between the condition of affairs in Scotland and those in England on which we have had no explanation. The Lord Advocate did not intend to make a statement at all until he was challenged from this side of the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBEHS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_text": " course open to us but to accept the new proposals. There were one or two points raised by my hon. Friend the 58 Member for the Blackfriars Division (Mr. Barnes) which deserve consideration. I only saw these Amendments for the first time on Saturday, and that was through an act of personal kindness. I arranged to meet some of the leaders of the friendly societies in my own Constituency on Sunday. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": ". If he did not mean that what did he mean, when he said that England had no cause to complain if the other portions of the United Kingdom are treated separately. Did he not mean that England would be financially advantaged by having her interests separate from those of Scotland, Ireland, or Wales? Of course he meant it. No other meaning is possible. I think it is extremely likely to be the case. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Home Rule.\"", "preceding_text": "nd the friendly societies have to take it upon trust. No one can say, on either side of the House, that the reasons which were put forward by the Lord Advocate were reasons which would lead any of us to grasp or grip what these proposals mean. If that is to be the way in which the people of Scotland are to be treated, I think it is time the people of Scotland understood how business is conducted. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"More than one.\"", "preceding_text": "nd the Secretary for Scotland, whom he represents. &sect; 6.0 P.M. &sect; Sir WALTER MENZIES When this discussion commenced I understood the objection taken to it by the hon. Member for Central Glasgow was on account of the short notice we had of the discussion. Since that speech we have had various objections from the other sides and from one hon. Member upon this side against the scheme itself. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBEES: \"No&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "y is a matter of very great importance. The right hon. Gentleman said there will be a super-Commission for dealing with the finance of this Clause. That is to say, supposing there is a separate administration in Scotland and a separate fund and administration in Ireland and in Wales, as well as in England, you have to set up in order to do away with confusion and prevent chaos another Commission. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_text": "hat this is not a Scotch night. If you resolve upon separate Comsioners for Ireland, Scotland, and Wales, you also resolve to have separate Commissioners, and a separate fund for England, and that is a point upon which English Members have a right to be heard. I hope there will be no more consideration of this subject as if it were merely a narrow parochial question appertaining to North Britain. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "An. HON. MEMBER: \"And the Opposition.\"", "preceding_text": "his Bill fully, but seeing that the Chancellor of the Exchequer has given us a whole evening for the consideration of this one Clause I do not think we have much reason to complain. I am not at all objecting to what the English or Irish Members are doing in criticising these proposals. We must never forget that Scotland, to a very large extent, rules the world, and the English Government as well. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh.\"", "preceding_text": "that it would be better for Scotland to have a separate Commission and a separate fund. We also came to the conclusion that it 113 would be most desirable that those Commissioners should have power to adapt this measure as far as possible to the special needs of the districts throughout Scotland. To that view I entirely subscribe. I have listened from beginning to end to this most wasteful Debate—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/13", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/13/clause-58-application-to-scotland", "section": "clause-58-application-to-scotland", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where?\"", "preceding_text": "f the hon. Member's fellow countrymen in Ireland in that regard. Until that is done we must do our best. We are placing large powers in the hands of the Insurance Commissioners to adopt exceptional means as to that part of the country. 120 &sect; Mr. MORTON Will the Insurance Commissioners for Scotland have power to deal with that question of medical relief? &sect; Mr. URE Yes they have, I think. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/railway-companies-and-their-employes", "section": "railway-companies-and-their-employes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Home Rule.\"", "preceding_text": "Commission's Report by the directors of the various companies in that country? &sect; The PRIME MINISTER The suggested meeting would be solely concerned with the recommendations of the recent Royal Commission. &sect; Sir J. LONSDALE Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the Irish railway directors and their employ&#x00E9;s are able to settle their own differences without Government intervention? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/irish-insurance-commissioners", "section": "irish-insurance-commissioners", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about Wales?\" and \"How about the Isle of Man?\"", "preceding_text": "House know the names. &sect; Mr. T. M. HEALY Am I to understand that we shall not know the names of the Irish Commissioners before the Bill leaves the House of Commons? &sect; Mr. LLOYD GEORGE No; my hon. and learned Friend must not understand that. I hope to be able to give them during the next few days. All I said was that I did not promise them. &sect; Mr. WATT Will the same apply to Scotland? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/sir-edward-greys-statement", "section": "sir-edward-greys-statement", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"In 'Le Temps.'\"", "preceding_text": " endeavour to avoid them in the future. I shall not enter at any great length upon the crisis which arose in July, but there is only one sentence which fell fom the right hon. Gentleman which merits an explanation. He used these words:— On the 21st July I had been made anxious by the news which was published the day before. What news, and where was it published? That is an all-important question. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/sir-edward-greys-statement", "section": "sir-edward-greys-statement", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Speak without moving.\"", "preceding_text": "hat? &sect; Mr. SPEAKER The last conversation I had with the hon. Member. &sect; Mr. MASON I am bound to say to you and to the House that I never stated I would not move the Amendment. &sect; Mr. SPEAKER I said I understood from the hon. Member that he would not move. I would not have called upon him if he had told me that he intended to move. &sect; Mr. MASON I distinctly stated at the beginning—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/sir-edward-greys-statement", "section": "sir-edward-greys-statement", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "t the House, which is the greatest deliberative Assembly in the world, should have the option of supporting the Amendment or rejecting it. I do not wish to interfere with the opinions of hon. Members who may wish to discuss other subjects. An expression of opinion by this House with regard to this Amendment will carry great weight, and will be very much appreciated in Italy and throughout Europe. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/sir-edward-greys-statement", "section": "sir-edward-greys-statement", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Say what you have to say.\" \"Make your speech.\"", "preceding_text": "interfere with the opinions of hon. Members who may wish to discuss other subjects. An expression of opinion by this House with regard to this Amendment will carry great weight, and will be very much appreciated in Italy and throughout Europe. [Interruption.] I do hope the House will accord me the courtesy of a hearing. I will be as brief as possible. I do not think I have interrupted any Member. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/sir-edward-greys-statement", "section": "sir-edward-greys-statement", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Address the Chair.\"", "preceding_text": "ill be very much appreciated in Italy and throughout Europe. [Interruption.] I do hope the House will accord me the courtesy of a hearing. I will be as brief as possible. I do not think I have interrupted any Member. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Say what you have to say.\" \"Make your speech.\"] I hope hon. Members opposite will show towards me that fair, sportsmanlike attitude which I have always shown to them. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/sir-edward-greys-statement", "section": "sir-edward-greys-statement", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "y shape or form, as far as one can gather, of dealing with the Arabs and making them friendly disposed. Therefore, the accusation of treachery may be dismissed as really amounting to very little indeed. What were the facts on the other side? Hon. Members doubtless are well aware of what took place in the oasis. Everyone admits the truth of the statements of brave correspondents of great journals. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/sir-edward-greys-statement", "section": "sir-edward-greys-statement", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "ere views. This House has the power. Right hon. Gentlemen are helpless before the House—if we only knew it. We have the power if we unite, and if hon. Members co-operate with us in trying to urge this Government to act. If you co-operate with us in urging the Government to act, and they refuse to do so, 149 then we have a common cause. We can go to the country and turn the present Government out. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/27/sir-edward-greys-statement", "section": "sir-edward-greys-statement", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": "ffect I know it had: that practically all the friends of England in Germany—the friends of peace, the friends of better relations between the two countries—were simply stupified. They said it was useless for them any longer to work to bring about better relations when the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the man whom they regarded as the best friend of Anglo-German friendship, had made such a speech.—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/national-insurance-bill-2", "section": "national-insurance-bill-2", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There are none.\"", "preceding_text": "the Exchequer said as regards domestic servants. I see he has tried to persuade domestic servants of the benefits of the Bill. What he said as to details none of us know. Did he point out to the domestic servants that unless they were members of an approved society this Clause would give them no benefit at all? The general societies for girls, domestic servants, are not approved societies at all. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/national-insurance-bill-2", "section": "national-insurance-bill-2", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "e should put in these words: \"In the case of such of its members as are domestic servants, clerks, shop assistants living in, hospital nurses, or any employed persons who are boarded by their employers.\" I submit to the House with some confidence that this specification covers practically every class of person to whom, we desire this Clause to apply. We do not desire to apply it to other persons. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/national-insurance-bill-2", "section": "national-insurance-bill-2", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They have been here most of the afternoon.\"", "preceding_text": "e against Members of this side being called upon repeatedly to reply. Are hon. Members opposite going to take this Clause or are they not? Where are the three hon. Members that have recently succeeded at the by-elections? They assured the people that they would come in and put this Bill right, and tell the Chancellor of the Exchequer what they thought of it. Where are they? Why are they not here? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/national-insurance-bill-2", "section": "national-insurance-bill-2", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no, with regard to the mistresses.\"", "preceding_text": "emly language had been used by I he Chancellor of the Exchequer, and I think this Clause is one of the subjects which gives an opportunity for answering that challenge. The Chancellor of the Exchequer alluded to the protest of the servants with regard to this Clause, and said that this agitation was a mean agitation. I venture to think that the use of the word \"mean\" with regard to these servants—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/national-insurance-bill-2", "section": "national-insurance-bill-2", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "he right hon. Gentleman never used any such language with reference to the case of the servants. He referred to the action of a certain portion of the newspaper Press and to some mistresses. &sect; Captain TRYON I am quite prepared to continue the discussion where the subject has been left off. The Chancellor of the Exchequer and other prominent Ministers not only took a line against the servants—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/national-insurance-bill-2", "section": "national-insurance-bill-2", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "s about keeping servants for twenty and thirty years, and keeping them for six months when they are ill on full wages, are simply humbug and fraud. There are exceptional women as there are exceptional men, but no man is ignorant of the fact that the ordinary idea of the average woman who employs a servant is that if her servant becomes ill, she gets rid of her before she gets too ill to be moved. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/national-insurance-bill-2", "section": "national-insurance-bill-2", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is a partial substitution.\"", "preceding_text": "&sect; Sir RUFUS ISAACS The hon. and learned Member says we are not substituting benefits under Clause 9, Sub-section (2), but what we are in fact doing is saying that the rates of sickness and disablement benefits may be reduced, and that when they are reduced you must give additional benefits equivalent in value, subject to the consent of the Treasury. Is that a substitution of benefits or not? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/national-insurance-bill-2", "section": "national-insurance-bill-2", "cue_text": "An. HON. MEMBER: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_text": "n said in respect to this new Clause, but I want to ask why is it confined to those who have been teachers before? Why should not this provision apply to anybody who becomes a certificated teacher? When the person leaves the employment of the Government as a teacher and joins the ranks of some other profession, say after ten years, what becomes of the money in that case? Does he lose it entirely? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1911/nov/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1911/nov/28/appointment-of-new-sea-lords", "section": "appointment-of-new-sea-lords", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where?\"", "preceding_text": " Press. &sect; The FIRST LORD of the ADMIRALTY (Mr. Churchill) I do not at all complain that the Noble Lord should have asked at the first available Parliamentary opportunity for information upon what he very justly described as a most important matter. It is quite true that His Majesty has been pleased to approve of certain changes in the Board of Admiralty which have been announced this evening—"}
