{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/blocking-notices", "section": "blocking-notices", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "otice is in order? &sect; Mr. SPEAKER That Bill would not be in order. I could not put that, because, on the face of it, that is not a Bill which could be introduced. I confine myself entirely to the first Bill. &sect; Lord HUGH CECIL I can assure the hon. Member opposite that I have no personal ill-will against him, and I sympathise with him. But my action is taken on 1199 purely public grounds. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "g a lamentable effect on British prestige, for not even his most ardent American admirers imagine that Mr. Asquith has solved his difficulties with regard to either Home Rule or anything else. They go on to say that— It is depressing to find how general is the judgment that the resigning officers were tempted into a grave lapse of duty by the passionate intrigues of Unionist politicians. 4.0 P.M. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "Norseman of Norse blood, and, therefore, to talk of this hopeless division of race as an element in this problem is absurd and a gross misrepresentation of the whole case. Let me briefly refer to the proposals which were dealt with in the Debate yesterday. First of all we had the Referendum. That has been repudiated on all sides, and on this side quite as emphatically as by the Foreign Secretary. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "w one of the constituent races of the United Kingdom with the attribute of sovereignty you cannot take it away. The hon. Member says that this Bill in its present form is not consistent with the federal idea. I never heard a more astounding argument. Take the greatest federal State we have, that is, the United States. Where does the sovereignty come in? It is to be found in each individual State. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "al idea. I never heard a more astounding argument. Take the greatest federal State we have, that is, the United States. Where does the sovereignty come in? It is to be found in each individual State. [An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"] Yes, it is, and it has been described by a great American statesman as the free combination, or federation, of sovereign States. The sovereignty lies in each individual State. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " of discussion and brain power that would be put into every measure which passed through the three Sessions There was quite a moving passage in a speech which the First Lord of the Admiralty made some two years ago, when he said:— Think of all this expenditure of effort, all these colossal exertions in the three successive Sessions! and that passage was quoted with approval by the Prime Minister. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "ary gauntlet and received the approval of the House of Commons three times after being thoroughly considered and thoroughly sifted? We 1228 now know what the reality is. You have no Committee stage in the second and third Sessions, on the plea that if you have a Committee stage and any Amendment were introduced, you would lose the benefit of the Parliament Act . That condemns your Parliament Act. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "on to be, I think there is a danger lest the consideration of Ulster should dominate and overshadow the whole issue of Home Rule. In considering and attempting to give full and considerate attention to the objections of Ulster, there is a tendency lest people should shut their eyes to the strength and the passion of the movement which is represented by hon. Members who sit below 1234 the Gangway. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "stitutional manner. We ask that and nothing else. It is as a constitutional question we wish it to be settled by an appeal to the whole of the citizens of this country, with no possible advantage of plural voting, because the Leader of the Opposition has offered that it should be submitted to a Referendum in which one vote would have one value. Is not that a settlement in a constitutional manner? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "d be put through. &sect; Mr. HARRY LAWSON Yes, he said that, knowing that his Leader sitting behind him has said that all the forces of the Crown would be used to enforce the law when passed without amendment through Parliament. It is trifling with the House. If the Bill is passed without amendment it is the intention, we know from the Foreign Secretary, to enforce it by use of arms if necessary. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The glad eye!\"", "preceding_text": "that there are many others who want to do the same—to approach this problem in a new spirit. The First Lord of the Admiralty, the House will recollect, said that he wanted to approach it with the modern eye. But his eye has become a very bloodshot eye or a very bloodthirsty eye. I want to see him approach this with a clear eye and conciliatory eye, but it must be a real eye not an artificial eye. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "pted nothing would be simpler than to go on with the Bill and put down force with force. I think in-that, he is about as wise and far-seeing as he was when he assured the country there was no longer an Ulster movement. It is not quite so simple a matter as that. The First Lord of the Admiralty, whom I am glad to see present, and whose unlucky visit to Belfast was the beginning of all this trouble—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": " Protestant or Catholic, and which is as execrated, I venture to say, in Belfast as it is in Cork. That is the consequence of the new system of government of Ireland by secret conspiracy. You have allowed one secret conspiracy to lead you by the nose and you allow the other to intimidate you. Look where I will I can see no hope for Ireland, or for the Unionist party, or for the Government, unless—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "ion of the two countries. When I determined to take the 1250 opinion of the people of Cork as between us, I did so in a public letter under the heading \"What the Cork election will mean.\" It began:— I desire to set forth in precise terms the programme of conciliation, on which I intend to stand or fall in the election which Mr. Redmond's official representatives have forced upon the city of Cork. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "n the favourite phrase of these Gentlemen, \"to be wiped off the face of the earth,\" simply because they approve of the recommendation which the Prime Minister himself acknowledged to offer the best hope of permanent peace between the two countries. As the \"Freeman's Journal\" phrases it, they have commenced their holy war for extermination of these men in order to wipe out the blot of factionism.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/01", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/01/british-citizens-rights", "section": "british-citizens-rights", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We do not agree with it!\"", "preceding_text": "his House of Commons is in full sympathy with that previous House of Commons which was responsible for the grant of self-government to them, when they know that the vast majority of this House—indeed, I trust the whole of this House—are in agreement with that great and pregnant utterance of the late Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman, that it is better to have self-government even than good government. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Then turn it off.\"", "preceding_text": ". Gentlemen who merely seem to think that the art of statesmanship and the art of manufacturing cries are one and the same industry. I am not concerned in that. I am concerned with much bigger and deeper things, and I only regret—and I most profoundly and deeply regret—that this class of discussion has been forced upon us. I think it most deleterious. I think it most unhappy and most unfortunate. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "ons with absolute accuracy—which of the propositions I have laid down does he or anybody else differ from? I believe the case I have ventured to lay down certainly does not encourage indiscipline, and does not suggest that no soldier ought ever to be asked to deal with civil difficulties. I never suggested that. There are questions where it would be difficult to say where the line is to be drawn. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "tion of things have brought about an evil which it may take many years to repair. That was intended to lead up and does lead up to this further statement. I say your difficulties are not due to anything that has either occurred or will occur in the Army, but they are due to the fact that Ulster is determined not to be under the Home Rule Government, and the majority of Englishmen agree with them. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: 'No!\"", "preceding_text": "n to which I think in the main the right hon. Gentleman devoted himself, and on that, perhaps, he will allow me to say a few words. Our proposal is a very simple one, and I should have thought to a House of Commons that prides itself on being democratic, the simplest and the best of all. It is that before carrying your Bill into law, which you now admit in its present shape will produce civil war "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No; the Prime Minister did not say so!\"", "preceding_text": "few words. Our proposal is a very simple one, and I should have thought to a House of Commons that prides itself on being democratic, the simplest and the best of all. It is that before carrying your Bill into law, which you now admit in its present shape will produce civil war [HON. MEMBER: 'No!\"] I was referring to the Prime Minister. On a Bill which in its present shape would produce civil war—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " then you would not get the opinion of the community. I can perfectly understand, when a matter has not been discussed, thrashed out, dealt with in all the papers, or been the subject and topic of universal debate, that it may be wrong to spring upon the country a Referendum on that which they have never considered or thought about at all. Who can say that the Home Rule Bill is in that condition? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We understood your words!\"", "preceding_text": " He said we founded ourselves upon the mandate given at the last election on the strength of speeches made by right hon. Gentlemen opposite, that we had searched, as he not very kindly put it, the scrap-heap of their old speeches in order to find occasions on which they had made references to Home Rule, while we abstained from doing so. The right hon. Gentleman entirely misconceives our argument. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"You denied it.\"", "preceding_text": "issue at the election. Mr. BALFOUR I do not think I did. &sect; Mr. HERBERT SAMUEL The right hon. Gentleman wrote a letter at the last election, at the end of 1910, in which he said:— It is the avowed policy of the Government to destroy the Veto of the House of Lords, and then under Single-Chamber government, without any further reference to the electors, to place Home Rule upon the Statute Book. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_text": "on with many of my Friends, as a Protestant, as one who has engaged in religious work for forty years, I hate oppression of every kind whatever. If I believed that this Bill, if passed, would bring oppression upon my brothers and sisters in Ireland, I would not hesitate to vote against the Government. But I do not believe that for a single moment. Personally, I only know what I read in the papers—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "cule groundless fears, but he never laughs at rooted convictions. I hope you believe that. I am afraid some of you do not. In my opinion every facility has been afforded for the advancement of Ulster's safeguards. That is conclusive evidence that the conscience of Ulster is not belittled nor her alarms ignored or lightly treated. The root objection to the Bill is admittedly the religious element. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes!\"", "preceding_text": "vations entirely in accord with that spirit. When I heard, to my surprise—nay, to my amazement—the right hon. Gentleman the Member for the City of London bring back to this controversy much of its old venom, I was very disappointed indeed. I noticed that even by the party above the Gangway that portion of the right hon. Gentleman's speech was not listened to with any apparent or fervent approval. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "like this at this stage change front day to day, and even from hour to hour. The Referendum does not really require much further discussion. If there were no other reason against it as a means of settlement, there is this reason: that it would not be accepted by the Government, and certainly would not be accepted by us. As to a General Election, I think that is a solution that I may also dismiss. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Ancient Order of Hibernians.\"", "preceding_text": "d before in Ireland when there was Protestant domination. All the ills in Ireland were due to Protestant domination. We are afraid of Catholic domination in the future. &sect; Mr. T. P. O'CONNOR The Noble Lord has given me a perfectly fair answer, but he will pardon me if -he compels me to enter for a moment on another line of argument. You are afraid of Catholic domination. Now what do you mean? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "emphasis, against an Orange employer from Belfast and a Catholic employer from Dublin. I hope I will not again be supposed to be making a controversial observation when I say that there is plenty of room in the conditions of Belfast and Lisburn for a Larkin to raise them out of the slough of bad wages. It is better to let these people come together. They will come together if they are left alone. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "ggest that we have ever preached from Ireland from any of our platforms the gospel of sectarian difference— we who have had three Protestant leaders in our history in forty years, and who have Protestants amongst us, seven or eight out of 74? Why, if I were presiding at an Irish meeting and any gentleman even mentioned the word \"Catholic\" or \"Protestant\" I would call him to order under our rules. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "s matter of settlement. Schemes and suggestions of settlement are in the air. The exclusion of Ulster is often referred to the exclusion of Ulster meaning, of course, for this purpose—it can have no other meaning—the inclusion of the rest of Ireland in a system of self-government. Mark you, the rest of Ireland, meaning there, to take his own words, the total exclusion of the whole area of Ulster. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Forty!\"", "preceding_text": " view that would not have been done. In regard to the federal system, I do not think it would be fair or just, and certainly would not be generous, to Ireland. This Home Rule Bill has been before us for a very long time. The country is ready for it; Ireland has sent a compact body of Nationalist Members to this House ready to vote for it at all times; they have done that for the last thirty years—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "e. I well remember that my hon. Friend, if I may call him so, the Member for West Belfast (Mr. Devlin) was so determined in his opposition to my amendment excluding the four counties, that be threatened to sever his head from his body if the amendment was carried, and to sit opposite a truncated corpse. Mr. Deputy-Speaker, at that time I considered that as the only solution of the Irish question. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "Bill. What will happen if they do? The first six years of the Irish Parliament will be the most important period in the history of the next fifty years for Ireland. In the first six years a new Government will be set up, the number of State Departments will be fixed, and a system of government will be entirely novel and different from anything that exists in the British Empire will be worked out. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "ails, because he would know them much better than I do. What will happen is that the best part of Ulster—county Cavan—will not vote herself out. Donegal will not, and only four counties may. I only say \"may.\" Perhaps they will not. There may be only three, but if the four do vote themselves out, what will be the result? The result will be that there would be no opposition in the Irish Parliament. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": " that would be a ridiculous position. &sect; Mr. DILLON There would be no minority. &sect; Mr. LOUGH If there is no minority, everybody will be unanimous—they would all be men of one opinion. &sect; Mr. DILLON Not at all. 1484 &sect; Mr. LOUGH I think the point I am making will appeal generally to the House. I say that the great body of the representatives of the Irish minority would be excluded. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Again?\"", "preceding_text": "ave converted the hon. Member (Mr. Dillon) up to a point. If I can get him to support me in allowing this undesirable proposal to drop, I shall have done something in my few remarks. The men of Ulster are not afraid. They are least of all afraid in these counties. They are too numerous there to be oppressed. We will never have any fires of Smithfield or religious persecutions lit in Ireland again "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "he reason. &sect; Mr. BIRRELL indicated dissent. &sect; Mr. LOUGH I do not think my right hon. Friend can be convinced of anything. I want to say one word upon another point. I deeply deplore that the question of the Army has been brought into this subject. The question how we can satisfy the people of Ulster is large enough with-cut having this mighty question in connection with the Army raised. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/02", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/02/government-of-ireland-bill-1", "section": "government-of-ireland-bill-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The First Lord of the Admiralty.\"", "preceding_text": "e, if all the time an organisation of this kind with threats of this sort is got up against the peaceful inhabitants of a great province like Ulster. And I cannot leave this without reminding the House that it was, I believe, through a false alarm, a lying alarm, that the rebellion of 1641 broke out. Who can tell if this rocket might not be fired in Belfast any night by some irresponsible person. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "\"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "in but against individuals of corruption;: whereas any impartial reader of this Report or of the evidence, reading it honestly and drawing an honest conclusion from it, cannot but be aware that there is not a particle of foundation for the charges against the corporation—charges suggested rather than expressed. Amongst the charges is one that the sanitary laws of Dublin are not strictly enforced. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_text": "and 1,289 small houses inhabited by 4,851 persons, and 20 lodging houses over which the corporation have licensing powers, and which are licensed to accommodate 434 persons, giving a total of only 28,000 persons living in houses stated by the corporation officers to be not fit for human habitation, would not, we think, require a very stringent application of the closing powers of the corporation. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "ttee will not think I have violated the canon which I laid down for myself when I do so: Two British Members, Unionist Members, who spoke here about a fortnight or three weeks ago, brought politics into this question, dragged them in by the neck and heels. They did it before the evidence was forthcoming. They contrasted, forsooth, the state of things in Dublin with the state of things in Belfast. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " reproach of this town that within a few yards of our main streets there is so much badly-constructed old property and insanitary buildings which are objectionable in appearance, unhealthy as dwelling-places, and depressing because of the way in which they perpetuate the evils of slum existence. If any hon. Member of the Committee would like to know the name of that town it is the town of Dudley. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He is responsible!\"", "preceding_text": "law and said the number should be twelve, but they do not enforce it, and in 1,161 cases they have not enforced it. We are asked by hon. Members here to say that this is all due to the discretion, wrongly or rightly, exercised by Sir Charles Cameron, and that the corporation is not responsible. But Sir Charles Cameron can only carry out the orders of the corporation, and he has to do what he can. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "An HON MEMBER: \"Do you say they are corrupt?\"", "preceding_text": "by granting to the owners of those houses who happen to be members of the corporation, and I dare say many others, rebates on the rates on the ground that they are providing houses suitable for the occupation of the working classes. That is about the worst thing that has ever been brought to the notice of this House with reference to corporations. It is not necessary to say that they are corrupt. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Arbitration.\"", "preceding_text": " deal with reference to house building, and that I quite concede. The Committee-find that there has been a considerable amount of house building, but not a very large amount, considering the population and the amount of money which the scheme has cost. The Committee give figures which seem to point to the legitimate conclusion that the house building has been carried on in a very extravagant way. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is so everywhere.\"", "preceding_text": "you choose to buy for your rehousing scheme land of an extremely expensive character, which may be convenient for other purposes, you cannot complain if you have to pay a high price for such land. I find that the cost of building cottages is higher in the hands of the corporation than in the hands of those who have also been engaged in house building for the working classes in the city of Dublin. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "think anyone can read without feeling grieved, and to some extent, ashamed. Therefore, I am very glad the Report has made its appearance. But with regard to the Corporation of Dublin, I am very glad indeed my hon. Friend (Mr. Jonathan Samuel) spoke in the way he did, because I think the corporation has been very harshly treated by hon. Members opposite, not, I dare say, from any political motives—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And Glasgow!\"", "preceding_text": " Why has Dublin been selected now? The Noble Lord was perfectly frank about it. It is all a political attack—a political attack founded upon statements which, if not entirely unfounded, are a mixture of truth and falsehood, which is always the hardest thing to fight. How have we treated similar demands by great cities of this country? Why the extension of the boundaries of Bradford and Birmingham—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where?\"", "preceding_text": "&sect; Mr. MACDONALD It was mostly on roads and for cleaning, but if my right hon. Friend will look at the Reports he will discover on analysis that the word cleaning in Dublin does not mean cleaning simply, but means making roads, as well as cleaning them. In the second season 1907&#x2013;8 the amount spent in wages was £2,478, and of that £497 was spent on work that might be called public work. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where?\"", "preceding_text": "at the word cleaning in Dublin does not mean cleaning simply, but means making roads, as well as cleaning them. In the second season 1907&#x2013;8 the amount spent in wages was £2,478, and of that £497 was spent on work that might be called public work. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Where?\"] It was by the corporation on work concerning the corporation in Dublin. A sum of £2,000 was spent on private property. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "section": "local-government-board-ireland-class-ii", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What was the improvement?\"", "preceding_text": " me give examples from 1911&#x2013;12, and I will read in relation to them an extract from the sworn evidence which this Committee ought very seriously to consider. One of the improvements was the Rutledge Terrace improvement. It began in 1910&#x2013;11. The owners subscribed £20 for material. The Distress Committee spent £33 on material and £86 on wages. That is one very significant improvement. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "section": "civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It was refused by the Committee.\"", "preceding_text": "er for the Scotland Division was using a rather dangerous argument, because his own city of Liverpool not long ago wished to include that eminent suburb, Bootle, within its boundaries. Bootle would not come in, and Parliament decided that Bootle was right, and refused the Liverpool Bill , in just the same way as it refused the Bill which Dublin brought in with the object of including its suburbs. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "section": "civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Sweating.\"", "preceding_text": "entleman who spoke on the other side side of the House that at the bottom of this is the difficulty of bad wages. What I feel we in this part of the House are justified in saying is, that in Dublin wages are bad. We know it. In Belfast, the other large city of Ireland, wages are good, and housing is good. Why is there this distinction. In Belfast there are large manufacturing concerns carried on. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "section": "civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "ough the Local Government Board or as Chief Secretary, by some method, which I am sure he can find if only he looks, to bring pressure to bear upon the corporation to see that this money is refunded? I understand that one of the members of the corporation who has received this money, and who was mentioned by the hon. Member for Leicester in another connection, is a Unionist—the more shame to him. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "section": "civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "r towing path. The right hon. Gentleman says he is not acquainted with the towing path. &sect; Mr. BIRRELL It is a road. 460 &sect; Mr. CAMPBELL The right hon. Gentleman said it was of great advantage to fishermen, I can only tell the right hon. Gentleman that his informants are leading him entirely astray. The fishermen who fish in the canal are as scarce as the flowers that bloom in the spring. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "section": "civil-services-and-revenue-departments-1", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide!\"", "preceding_text": "erous outlying townships. That is a comparison well worth considering. I only rose for the purpose of saying what I thought I ought to say in justice to the Corporation of the City of Dublin, that while they have been very slack and remiss in enforcing obligations under the Housing Acts, they have, I think, done good and useful work in many other departments of public life. &sect; Mr. O'SHEE rose—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/curragh-officers", "section": "curragh-officers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Wait and see!\"", "preceding_text": "me communication should be made to this officer relating to the possibility of an order later on, and that we should really reconsider circumstances which have not arisen. I suggest that there is no necessity to make any communication to those 470 officers, for the simple reason that we may take it for granted by the way in which this subject has been dropped like a red hot coal by the Opposition—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/curragh-officers", "section": "curragh-officers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They ran away at East Fife!\"", "preceding_text": " was a hope on the part, of some that might have occurred, and there was even the possibility of such an occurrence a short time ago, but I venture to say that the recent discussion has obviated the possibility of any such occurrence in the future, and we may take it for granted, after the way in which the Opposition have recently, during the last few days, both in the Press and in their speeches—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/curragh-officers", "section": "curragh-officers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And Tariff Reform last night!\"", "preceding_text": "e possibility of such an occurrence a short time ago, but I venture to say that the recent discussion has obviated the possibility of any such occurrence in the future, and we may take it for granted, after the way in which the Opposition have recently, during the last few days, both in the Press and in their speeches—[An HON. MEMBER: \"They ran away at East Fife!\"] Of course, they ran away there. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/curragh-officers", "section": "curragh-officers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"McKenna!\"", "preceding_text": "he Questions, and sees the way in which this subject is being dropped at the present time by hon. Members opposite who thought they had a splendid weapon with which to beat the Government, we need never imagine that there is any likelihood of any such danger occurring in the future. It is a moral certainty that the Government will be able to proceed with their proposals 471 relating to Home Rule. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/curragh-officers", "section": "curragh-officers", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "heir proposals 471 relating to Home Rule. [HON. MEMBERS: \"McKenna!\"] They may be certain, whatever this House does, whatever laws it may pass, either this year, next year, or in the future, that after recent occurrences and after the discussion that has taken place in the public Press, there is not the slightest possibility of officers refusing to perform their duty whenever called upon to do so. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/16", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/16/curragh-officers", "section": "curragh-officers", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_text": "ain to the House why my right hon. Friend is not here now. Later in the afternoon—the hon. Gentleman described it as a misunderstanding—the hon. Gentleman wrote to the Prime Minister to say that he did not propose to raise the question at the end of the sitting. It is 472 quite true that still later in the evening the hon. Gentleman sent a further communication saying that he had changed his mind—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/movements-of-troops-ulster", "section": "movements-of-troops-ulster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"", "preceding_text": "e this year. Generally, nothing whatever is known at the Irish Command headquarters of any movement of troops or stores as is suggested in these questions. &sect; Viscount CASTLEREAGH When is it proposed again to occupy the barracks in Belfast? &sect; The PRIME MINISTER I must have notice of that question. &sect; Mr. HUNT Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that I have direct evidence from officers—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/clause-4-amendment-of-s-115-of-the-army", "section": "clause-4-amendment-of-s-115-of-the-army", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, does not it?\"", "preceding_text": " go all round the country and collect them. &sect; Sir F. BANBURY That is all very well, but some consideration ought to be extended to the unfortunate owner of the horse. &sect; Mr. TENNANT He is paid. 970 &sect; Sir F. BANBURY That does not cover it in the least. There is the danger that the horse may be injured. If a motor car is sent to a central depot and put on one side, it does not matter. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/clause-5-amendment-of-s-145-of-the-army", "section": "clause-5-amendment-of-s-145-of-the-army", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is the date of that?\"", "preceding_text": " officer on half-pay, the Office will act on that order and deduct the alimony or maintenance from the pay or whether they will disregard the order. The reply given by the Adjutant-General at that time was:— I beg to inform yon that if is not in accordance with our Regulations to take account of the payment of alimony or maintenance, or to deduct such alimony or maintenance from an officer's pay. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Ulster!\"", "preceding_text": "in the whole interests of every class of the community it is in the highest degree undesirable to question the sanctity of the immemorial duty of soldiers as well as citizens to take their share in what is really a common burden. Then my hon. Friend suggests that soldiers ought not to be armed with their ordinary weapons unless they are dealing with a riotous assembly which is similarly equipped. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh, yes!\"", "preceding_text": "urbances. We have still left the anachronism that one single magistrate can call up the military and be the means by which they can be called up. We have the soldier and the officer put in the anomalous position, a position of exceeding great difficulty—in which they have my utmost sympathy—although they have never yet, so far as I know, been called upon to face the consequences of their actions. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh no!\"", "preceding_text": "ling to-day. I am not going into details at all in any way, except to make the point of the extraordinary importance of this discussion on this occasion, because on the sixteen previous occasions in which the military has been brought out no objection has been offered by anybody to their being employed to shoot down those who disturb the peace. Recently, however, a different opinion has prevailed—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": ", and we are entitled to ask whether it is not possible after this defying of military evidence, that some further investigation such as is suggested by this Committee might not be undertaken by someone to prescribe some less deadly, and for the purpose useless, weapon, because naturally a soldier seeing a rioter in front of him fires over his head, as he does not want to kill his own countryman. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"HOW long ago is that?\"", "preceding_text": "ve in view. I do not know how the hon. Member professes to know that no officer has ever made an objection, because there are well-known cases where objection has been made. &sect; Mr. OUTHWAITE They did not object at Johannesburg. &sect; Mr. LEE There is the well-known case of the Bristol riots, where an officer who refused to shoot was court-martialled for his refusal, and he committed suicide. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": " &sect; Mr. LEE The hon. Member professes to speak on behalf of the private soldier, and I am not aware that he has any special claim to do so. &sect; Mr. WARD Only as an ordinary— &sect; Mr. LEE I do not know why the hon. Member professes to speak for the soldier, but I do protest against this libel on the officers of the Army that they are willing—I think he almost went as far as to say anxious—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He did rise!\"", "preceding_text": " protest against this libel on the officers of the Army that they are willing—I think he almost went as far as to say anxious—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"]— that they raised no objection— &sect; Mr. WARD Do not lie yourself. &sect; The CHAIRMAN The hon. Member has no right to make a remark of that kind. The proper way to interrupt is to rise quietly and wait until the hon. Member in possession gives way. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "re called out they should not be armed with the deadly weapon which we all know results disastrously to the individual. My hon. Friend (Mr. W. Thorne) also points out that they should not be subject to mutiny law. The hon. Gentleman says that the officers revolt at being called upon to do this, and I agree, but surely he will also agree that the men themselves revolt at being called upon to do it "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": " Friend (Mr. W. Thorne) also points out that they should not be subject to mutiny law. The hon. Gentleman says that the officers revolt at being called upon to do this, and I agree, but surely he will also agree that the men themselves revolt at being called upon to do it [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"] Surely it cannot be suggested that the officer has more compunction in this matter than the men. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Certainly!\"", "preceding_text": "n circumstances in which officers should act, that discrimination should be equally applicable to trade disputes, but you disagree. &sect; Lord ROBERT CECIL No. &sect; Mr. THOMAS But you did. &sect; Lord ROBERT CECIL No. &sect; Mr. THOMAS It has been made abundantly clear from that side that there are certain circumstances in which officers and men would be justified in refusing to do their duty. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/22/new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "section": "new-clause-employment-of-troops-during", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No. no!\"", "preceding_text": "are mounted, and they are only dismounted to fire under exceptional circumstances. I therefore think it is wise, wherever possible, to employ Cavalry for this duty. &sect; Mr. KEIR HARDIE rose in his place, and claimed to move, \"That the Question be now put\"; but the Chairman withheld his assent, as it appeared to him that the Committee were now prepared to come to a decision without that Motion. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements", "section": "naval-and-military-movements", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\" and Interruptions, and \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_text": "; 67. Mr. AMERY asked the Prime Minister if he will publish the full instructions given by Sir A. Paget to his assistant military secretary, referred to in No. XXX. of the second White Paper? &sect; The PRIME MINISTER I have answered that with number 63. &sect; Lord ROBERT CECIL May I call your attention, Mr. Speaker, to the fact that the Prime Minister with something less than his usual courtesy—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "Ministerial cries of \"All?\"", "preceding_text": "e admitted it if it had not been wrung from him bit by bit by the process of cross-examination. Then, merely to complete this sequence of events, on Monday, we had the explanation of the Secretary of State in the House of Commons, followed by that of the-Prime Minister. On the Tuesday we have a singularly bitter revolt by Gentlemen sitting below the Gangway against the attitude of the Government. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "the explanation of the Secretary of State in the House of Commons, followed by that of the-Prime Minister. On the Tuesday we have a singularly bitter revolt by Gentlemen sitting below the Gangway against the attitude of the Government. [Ministerial cries of \"All?\"] I accept the correction of hon. Gentlemen opposite—a revolt of the whole party against the attitude of their leaders up to that date. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Quote.\"", "preceding_text": "ted that he has some further account. He admitted it yesterday in answer to a question which was not reached, but his answer to which is now printed. He admitted that there were notes of the instructions given to Sir Arthur Paget. &sect; The PRIME MINISTER Refer to it. &sect; Mr. CHAMBERLAIN If the right hon. Gentleman will look at his written answers [OFFICIAL REPORT] yesterday, he will find it. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: MEMBER \"Gun-running!\"", "preceding_text": "hich the Minister referred. We now know that the material information was given last December, and we have no explanation of why the Government which declined to act last December suddenly thought it necessary to act and to act precipitately at the moment when they did act. In the second place, what was the character of the danger to the stores which this information led the Government to expect? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The 'Fanny' had not arrived.\"", "preceding_text": "ger against which they had to guard was against the raiding or the possibility of attack upon these stores by evilly disposed persons who would be discountenanced by the responsible leaders of the Ulster movement\"— By men elsewhere described by him as hot-headed persons, not under any kind of order or discipline. Therefore, it was not against any organised force that these preparations were made. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is the point?\"", "preceding_text": " that they were only wrung from the Secretary of State at the last moment in prevision of these particular circumstances. In a printed answer given yesterday the Prime Minister said:— I am not aware that any instructions such as those indicated in the question were given to Sir Arthur Paget in December last.\"—[ OFFICIAL REPORT, 27th April 1914, col. 1339. ] &sect; The PRIME MINISTER That is true. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_text": "gainst Sir Arthur Paget. On the contrary, I hope to make it clear that I support him in every particular; but the first statement made by the Prime Minister is absolutely accurate. The other question is a different one. &sect; 5.0 P.M. &sect; Mr. CHAMBERLAIN I do not want to challenge the Prime Minister's good faith, but he has made two statements which are in flat contradiction one of the other. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_text": "ime Minister is absolutely accurate. The other question is a different one. &sect; 5.0 P.M. &sect; Mr. CHAMBERLAIN I do not want to challenge the Prime Minister's good faith, but he has made two statements which are in flat contradiction one of the other. [HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"] He himself has not assisted us to elucidate the 1568 truth. He has been supplied by somebody with inaccurate information. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: They have an exact meaning.", "preceding_text": "n of General Gough. I quote from the OFFICIAL REPORT:— Captain Craig: Will the officers be reinstated. The Prime Minister: It is not a question of reinstatement, because they have never been deposed. I suppose that somebody had told him so, but the White Paper says:— These officers will be relieved of their command, and officers have been sent to relieve them at once. Sir, have words any meaning. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "Applause.", "preceding_text": "or in correction of the statement that Sir Arthur Paget had told his officers that Ulster would be in a blaze? Sir Arthur Paget, unfortunately, was only asked to report what he had said after the events had taken place, but he says he told them— I thought that the moves would create intense excitement and that the country—if not the country then the Press—would be in a blaze on the following day. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\" \"Seized?\" and '\"From whom were they seized?\"", "preceding_text": "n says that the Government would never have scattered detachments like this to places of no importance if they had contemplated anything more serious than that which they have avowed. Like my right hon. and learned Friend who spoke on a previous occasion, the information that I get from people who are competent to speak of strategy, is that the Government seized very important strategical points. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not a brigade—a battalion.\"", "preceding_text": "ry. The Prime Minister says that Newry is an outpost of Dundalk. That is a curious military phrase to use in connection with the police protection of stores against hot-headed men. The Government were occupying outposts. Such a movement partook of a strategical character. But now, when you come to a place sixteen miles off—Dundalk—where the stores were, there is a whole brigade of 500 or 600 men. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Covenanters.\"", "preceding_text": " is a whole brigade of 500 or 600 men. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Not a brigade—a battalion.\"] &sect; Mr. CHURCHILL made an observation which was inaudible in the Reporters' Gallery. &sect; Mr. CHAMBERLAIN Why does the First Lord interrupt? &sect; Mr. CHURCHILL Because three batteries with nothing but their drivers and guns are an entirely defenceless unit. &sect; Mr. CHAMBERLAIN Defenceless against whom? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "o not suggest that they would, but he stated that he knew that they would not. Now he says that this Artillery, with its drivers and gunners, is not safe and cannot protect itself against these hot-headed persons under no organisation or discipline, and discountenanced by the whole population. &sect; Colonel SEELY I never said that. &sect; Mr. CHAMBERLAIN That is the contention of the Government. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_text": "would be massed upon the Boyne, where the Cavalry would be required to prevent him from bumping into the enemy, and as a result of which one or two things would happen—either that the Government would occupy Ulster in such military force, and all its important military positions in such strength, that they thought they could defy any attempt at resistance on the part of the Covenanters of Ulster. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You have not arrested them!\".", "preceding_text": "zen Statutes, some of the gravest character, which are being openly flouted and defied at the present time by Members who sit opposite to us, and by their followers in Ireland, and that they are being flouted and defied with the full connivance and approval of those hon. Members. So what we are now witnessing in the House is uncommonly like a vote of censure by the criminal classes on the police. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "eaker, your most patriotic editor is capable of introducing into speech or leading article, is found in the grave and sober pages of the English Statute Book. Under those circumstances we can afford to retain our composure. But what is the position of the Conservative party in regard to the events which have taken place in Ireland? The Conservative party, the party of the comfortable, the wealthy—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "nant class. We are the ruling forces of the State. When laws suit us, we will obey them. If they do not suit us, so much the worse for the laws. We will not bow down to the rules appropriate to the common herd of British subjects. It will be time enough 1579 for us to talk about law and order when we have got into office, and have to deal with Irish Nationalists and British labour men.\" May I ask—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cattle driving.\" \"Moonlighting\"", "preceding_text": " before I come to the point, how the present situation strikes Liberals and Irish Nationalists. Irish Nationalists have always been urged by both great parties in the State to abandon unconstitutional agitation. They have not only been urged to do so, but great violence has been used against them. For a very long time they have staked their fortunes upon constitutional and Parliamentary agitation—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nine years too long.\"", "preceding_text": "in regard to every nationality within the British Empire that is not satisfied with existing conditions, all hope of redress by constitutional means. You, the Conservative party, would have pointed out to them that the surest and most effective method of obtaining redress of grievances is violent, lawless, and armed agitation and rebellion. How does it strike us? We have been nine years in power. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_text": " does not agree with the hon. Gentleman. In the whole of that time we have disposed of great affairs at home and abroad. When we came into office—I must put this point if I may—there were five great questions upon which Liberals desired to legislate: Education, Temperance, Welsh Disestablishment, Plural Voting, and Home Rule. Not one single one of those have we yet succeeded in carrying into law. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " Its purpose and intent is to rupture and destroy the whole movement of Liberal and Radical reform. Its object is to show that, if the veto of the Lords is gone, there still remains the veto of force, and, by the use of that veto, to deny to at least one-half of the nation that fair share of political rights and political activities to which they are undoubtedly entitled. I now come more directly—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": " actual and contingent. That survey comprised three perfectly separate spheres. First of all, there was the question of a large naval force, in principle a Battle Squadron with its attendant ships, which it was decided in the Cabinet of 11th March, should be stationed upon the West Coast of Scotland with a view to being at hand should intervention in Irish disorders become necessary or desirable. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why countermand, then?\"", "preceding_text": "l the fact. It was the details of that force, the date when it should be moved, and as to its actual composition in units which were, of course, left to the Admiralty. Can anyone say, after what has occurred, that it was an improper or improvident proceeding on the part of the Government to have a naval force available for necessary service in Irish waters in the circumstances which then existed. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You did!\"", "preceding_text": "selves going, and I will ask them to consider whether we ought not try even at this period, and even so far as this Debate may be a vehicle of such matters, to make some final effort to reach a better solution? Apart from the dangers which this controversy and this Debate clearly shows exists at home, apart from those dangers, look at the consequences abroad. &sect; Mr. HUNT Who brought it about? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is the Government?\"", "preceding_text": "ite apparently are, and he went on— Arising out of the further reply of the right, hon. Gentleman, is it not a tact that a similar statement to what he has now made was made before, yet there were other telegrams which were not published? Mr. McKenna: No, Sir: my hon. Friend must not misunderstand the point. I think anyone who studies the telegrams—\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 2nd April, 1914, col. 1361.] "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You were not here.\"", "preceding_text": "rge which the hon. Member has made. &sect; Mr. McKENNA May I ask on the point of Order whether it is proper, at any rate, to make a charge of wilful misrepresentation based upon a supplementary question without giving the original question to which that question was supplementary? &sect; Mr. SPEAKER I thought the hon. Member had given the original question. &sect; Mr. McKENNA No, Sir, he had not. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"By whom?\"", "preceding_text": "so was because he thought the matter had been taken out of his hands by the fact of these officers having been summoned to the War Office. If that is the only explanation the Government can give, it is manifestly untrue, and I will tell you why. It is quite true that the telegrams in this Paper bear no record of the time at which they were sent and received; but the times have already been given. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How do you know?\"", "preceding_text": "; but the times have already been given. [An HON. MEMBER: \"By whom?\"] By the Government. They were given in the first White Paper. We know that the first information which the Government ever had about the resignation of the officers was received at 7.35 p.m., and the first telegram which went back ordering these officers to report themselves to London was only dispatched at midnight on the 20th. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who are we?\"", "preceding_text": "h. It is to cover up the mischief they have done by opening the columns of their newspapers to funds for the purpose of maintaining this anarchy, disorder, and disloyalty, and for the purpose of trying to mislead the public—to cover up their own crimes in subscribing from their own pockets to these funds—that this Resolution has been brought forward this afternoon. We will make them a fair offer. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "this afternoon. We will make them a fair offer. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Who are we?\"] So far as we are concerned, we have never cut the abject figure of subservience to a great party that they have done. &sect; Earl WINTERTON Do you mean the alliance? &sect; Mr. RAMSAY MACDONALD The Noble Lord is leading a disruptive revolution of the mob. What right has the Noble Lord to talk about an \"alliance\"? 1611 "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "sults, and we are a proud people, and we intend to fight for our liberties. If you choose to shoot us down for it that is your business. The First Lord of the Admiralty is perfectly right in saying that the Government can move their troops and move their ships, and take any action they like. We do not deny that. What we find fault with is that it was done as a plot to irritate and provoke Ulster. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "C. BERESFORD It was stated by Sir Arthur Paget to his officers, and it has never been denied on the Front Bench. It may be denied by the hon. Gentleman opposite. But the police were to begin it, and I am not quite sure that the police did not object to begin. The police said that they were for police duties, and were not to be put there to be shot down first in order to provoke the Ulster people. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "ther was that whenever he got to Ulster he had better have guns in case there was going to be a disturbance in Ulster. Admiral Bayly showed that he was a good officer. He would be much better off when he had four guns—four guns in each ship I believe it was intended to be—than merely with company, small arms, without guns. That was the code arranged between them, and anybody can see through that. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "uty. It was the duty of the Government to order them, and it was the duty of the officers to obey. Why should they have gone about in plain clothes? I put it to the First Lord of the Admiralty, but he did not seem to know it, that plain clothes are not part of the kit of a naval officer, and it is laid down in the instructions that all officers on duty are to be in uniform. Why did the plot fail? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": " the plot is no longer a mystery. Did you ever see such an array of naval and military talent, and of knowledge of strategy and tactics and warlike operations? Fancy those six Gentlemen sitting in a room discussing the question, when not one of them knew very much about it. I should think the Secretary of State for War knew most. The First Lord of the Admiralty was a terrible failure in the Army. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Certainly!\"", "preceding_text": "I think it very unfair to do so. &sect; Mr. HAMAR GREENWOOD I ask the Noble Lord this question. I am one of those who never believe in attacking officers; but does the Noble Lord know of any officer, whether he is in the British Army or in any other Army, who has seen more active service than the First Lord of the Admiralty? &sect; Lord C. BERESFORD He did not see more active service in the Army. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_text": "y from the point. &sect; Lord C. BERESFORD I am sorry hon. Gentleman should think my statement is in bad taste, but I have made a statement which I believe to be correct, and I would not have made it had not the First Lord of the Admiralty attacked my hon. and gallant Friend beside me. &sect; Mr. LEIF JONES If the First Lord of the Admiralty had been here, the Noble Lord would not have done this. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Won't they? \"", "preceding_text": "ts far more in favour of our contention than it does in favour of the contention on the other side of the House. If the Government do not give an inquiry I think they ought to go to the country as soon as they can; and why I say that is not for any other reason but the following: If the Government cannot govern and the troops and the officers will not consent to coerce Ulster—that is the position—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": " British Fleet this treasonable conspiracy of the importation of foreign rifles from foreign shores would have been dealt with as any foreign raid ought to be dealt with—by the guns of British battleships! I wish myself that the Prime Minister had asked the Admiralty to act, and to find out the \"Fanny,\" wherever she was, and to pit the White Ensign against the Jolly Roger. I am perfectly serious. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\" and Interruption.", "preceding_text": "t of judicial inquiry, or any other means to clear themselves of that charge, I believe it: would have cost them the support of the Back Benches and of their office. But since we have had the payment of Members brought in, it seems to me that hon. Members on the Back Benches are perfectly prepared to swallow anything from Marconis to massacre, provided their consciences are salved by £400 a year. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\" and \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_text": "since we have had the payment of Members brought in, it seems to me that hon. Members on the Back Benches are perfectly prepared to swallow anything from Marconis to massacre, provided their consciences are salved by £400 a year. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\" and Interruption.] &sect; Mr. R. HARCOURT Does that mean that we hold our tongues for money? &sect; Sir R. POLE-CAREW I mean exactly what I say. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Insubordination!\" and Interruption.", "preceding_text": "ould have it, and therefore I take it and give every penny of it to the Unionist headquarters. It is simply a drop in the ocean to turn out the Government from office. I say the Army has been placed in a terribly false position by the man&#x0153;uvres of Gentlemen who occupy the benches opposite. It has been suggested 1631 that the Army has been guilty of insubordination, or of disobeying orders. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is out of order now.\"", "preceding_text": "ce and powers of the Commander-in-Chief. It is no use making this suggestion to the present Government, but I put it forward for consideration by a Unionist Government, which cannot fail to be in power very soon, that that Army Order should be expunged, and in its place should be substituted one which I put down as a new Clause to the Army (Annual) Bill last week and which was ruled out of order. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "Army, that it should have arisen. I used to think that the hon. Member for Stoke (Mr. John Ward) was a friend of the Army, and I was very sorry to see him make the attack upon it which he did the other day. May I point out to the hon. Member that so far from the position we are in being the fault of the Army, it is the fault of the Government. They chose to offer certain alternatives to the Army. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We all say 'No!'\"", "preceding_text": "sed to think that the hon. Member for Stoke (Mr. John Ward) was a friend of the Army, and I was very sorry to see him make the attack upon it which he did the other day. May I point out to the hon. Member that so far from the position we are in being the fault of the Army, it is the fault of the Government. They chose to offer certain alternatives to the Army. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] Who says \"No\"? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "A Laugh.", "preceding_text": "a possible outbreak of sporadic riot against which we have, in our opinion, insufficient protection, nevertheless, are prepared to give you our unwavering support at every sacrifice to ourselves in the present struggle between unscrupulous aristocrats, acting with a sinister disregard of the Empire's welfare on the one hand, and the British democracy representative of the Government on the other. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "he officials responsible for the maintenance of law and order in Ulster that such a coup could have been successfully carried out. It shows that a change is necessary in Ulster. Personally, I should not be sorry, though I much esteem the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and the Chief Secretary for Ireland, if they thought it wise to resign their positions and were replaced by men of stronger character. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": " lawlessness and anarchy. It is not true. Things have got far beyond that. You are trying to force men whom we know to be loyal subjects of the King, attached to their position as citizens of this kingdom, and ruled by this Parliament, into another rule which they distrust. Under the plea of giving better Government to Ireland, you are bringing terrible unhappiness into every part of the kingdom. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "riticism directed against me to-night and against the Government—principally against myself—is, Why did you not do it before? To that reply, I took the step at what I thought was the proper moment, and events have proved that it was the proper moment. It was undesirable to run the risk of creating excitement in Ulster until it was absolutely necessary. In point of fact, we chose the right moment. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/28", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/28/naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "section": "naval-and-military-movements-inquiry", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "araphrase of the right hon. Gentleman. &sect; Colonel SEELY I was about to say, in order that we may define our terms, that I should like to use a form of words to which the Opposition will agree. If we have done nothing wrong, what is the good of this Motion? The idea was that we were going to use a great force to provoke Ulster into resistance, and then shoot down enough of them—is not that it? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1914/apr/28", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1914/apr/28/the-housing-of-the-working-classes", "section": "the-housing-of-the-working-classes", "cue_text": "\"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "er, especially perhaps the agricultural labourer, has more money to spend upon the rent which he may give for his house. And if the noble Marquess criticises the 120,000 cottages as being thoroughly insufficient, there are, I think, two further considerations to which we may point. One is that whenever a Government takes action of this kind it always stimulates private endeavour at the same time. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/30/established-church-wales-bill", "section": "established-church-wales-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "hey are, they will, under the provisions of the Bill, be transferred to the Representative Body. &sect; Mr. ORMSBY-GORE Do I understand the right hon. Gentleman to say that if the cathedral yard is regarded by a Court of Law as a public burial ground that then it will be transferred, and all the monuments in it, to the local burial authority? &sect; Mr. McKENNA I have stated exactly the opposite. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/30/post-office-holt-committees-report", "section": "post-office-holt-committees-report", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is that in London only?\"", "preceding_text": " income of less than 22s. to make that income go, as it ought to go, to provide the modest comforts and requirements of life. And we propose, therefore, in the case of full-time male postal 1892 servants of twenty-three years of age and over, which may be taken as the age of marriage, to provide an overriding wage of 22s. per week for all those whose incomes from the State are less than that sum. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/30/post-office-holt-committees-report", "section": "post-office-holt-committees-report", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is the loss on Press telegrams?\"", "preceding_text": "f a Post Office laboratory on a much larger scale than anything we have got at present, and by thus admitting of much more extensive and close research into telegraphic problems, I hope the Committee of Organisation, plus closer research into the problems of high speed and other matters of telegraphy, may enable us to set this Department on a much more satisfactory footing than at present exists. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/30/post-office-holt-committees-report", "section": "post-office-holt-committees-report", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You have given the sixpenny wire.\"", "preceding_text": "gh speed and other matters of telegraphy, may enable us to set this Department on a much more satisfactory footing than at present exists. [An HON. MEMBER: \"What is the loss on Press telegrams?\"] Undoubtedly it is a very serious loss. &sect; Mr. JOWETT Why do you not mention it? 1895 &sect; Mr. HOBHOUSE There are many statistics which I could have given to the Committee. That did not occur to me. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/30/post-office-holt-committees-report", "section": "post-office-holt-committees-report", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Stafford.\"", "preceding_text": "ed. It requires very skilled and expert workmen to manufacture it. But the result has been uniformly good wherever the system has been tried, and I propose to extend it on a very considerable scale in this country as soon as possible. I hope at a comparatively early date to supply Accrington, Darlington, Dudley, Grimsby, Newport, Paisley, Ports-month, Stockport and Leeds with automatic exchanges. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/30/post-office-holt-committees-report", "section": "post-office-holt-committees-report", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "House and all parties—that if it had to reconsider the matter now, in the light of subsequent criticism, many of its awards would be more satisfactory. In the light of subsequent criticism it would probably have given a larger percentage of increase directly than it has given. I know that postal servants have asked for an increase of 15 per cent. But we all ask for more than we are likely to get. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/30/post-office-holt-committees-report", "section": "post-office-holt-committees-report", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "rmanent Statutory Commission outside this House, as there is in Australia, which would take note of every change from day to day, from week to week, and from year to year, in the cost and standard of living and other pertinent considerations. If a Labour Government ever came into power in this country, I believe they will do what the Labour party did in Australia— establish a Statutory Commission—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/apr/30", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/apr/30/post-office-holt-committees-report", "section": "post-office-holt-committees-report", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about travelling?\"", "preceding_text": " when I come to boots and clothing, I put down 3s. instead of 4s. as in the other case, and rent and rates I lump together at 5s., that being a very reasonable amount, and, if it errs at all, it is on the side of modesty. Here, again, you get a total of 27s. 6d., every copper of which is spent upon items which are rising and none of which are stationary, leaving just 1s. 6d. to cover incidentals. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/04", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/04/state-insurance-scheme", "section": "state-insurance-scheme", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, only British ships.\"", "preceding_text": "rrival, he is always in and out of Lloyd's. For that special reason it is very important that the distribution scheme should be thoroughly organised at once. I would also ask the Prime Minister a question with regard to neutrals. We have a large number of neutrals that bring food and raw material to this country. Do they come under this insurance proposal—I mean ships belonging to neutral Powers? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/27/slaughter-of-animals-bill", "section": "slaughter-of-animals-bill", "cue_text": "Slaughter of Animals Bill [ Lords .", "preceding_text": "August 1914) Search Help HANSARD 1803&ndash;2005 &rarr; 1910s &rarr; 1914 &rarr; August 1914 &rarr; 27 August 1914 &rarr; Commons Sitting &rarr; WAR IN EUROPE. SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS BILL. HC Deb 27 August 1914 vol 66 c122 122 &sect; Message from the Lords, &sect; That they have passed a Bill, intituled, \"An Act to authorise the regulation and restriction of the slaughter of animals used for food.\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/27/german-proposals-for-neutrality", "section": "german-proposals-for-neutrality", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Do not answer&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "se suggestions of their Ambassador in London, and whether any effort at all was made to find out how far the German Government would have agreed to the suggestions put forward by their own Ambassador? &sect; Mr. T. M. HEALY Before the right hon. Gentleman answers that question may I ask him if Socialists in the Reichstag are asking any questions like this? &sect; Sir E. GREY The German Ambassador—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/27/german-proposals-for-neutrality", "section": "german-proposals-for-neutrality", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "e of the reasons why I thought it very desirable to answer very specifically. &sect; Mr. KEIR HARDIE As a matter of personal explanation I entirely repudiate the statement just made by the hon. Member behind me. &sect; Mr. PRINGLE I have to say, in answer to that personal imputation, that my authority is a letter written by the hon. Member in the \"Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald\" on Saturday last. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/27/german-proposals-for-neutrality", "section": "german-proposals-for-neutrality", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Coward.\"", "preceding_text": "y. &sect; Mr. KEIR HARDIE As a matter of personal explanation I entirely repudiate the statement just made by the hon. Member behind me. &sect; Mr. PRINGLE I have to say, in answer to that personal imputation, that my authority is a letter written by the hon. Member in the \"Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald\" on Saturday last. [Cheers.] &sect; Mr. KEIR HARDIE Those who cheer have not seen the letter. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/27/aliens-in-united-kingdom", "section": "aliens-in-united-kingdom", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "employment of German and Austrian aliens during the continuance of the War? &sect; Mr. McKENNA I do not think that I can take the action suggested. Indeed, one of the problems which is causing my Department the greatest anxiety is that of dealing with the large number of Germans and Austrians in this country who have lost their employment and are rapidly becoming destitute. &sect; Mr. HUNT Surely—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/27/aliens-in-united-kingdom", "section": "aliens-in-united-kingdom", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "; Mr. HUNT Surely—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Order&#x0021;\"]—the most urgent business of the Government is to provide first of all for their own people&#x0021; &sect; Mr. McKENNA Yes, certainly; but I am afraid that if the suggestion of the hon. Gentleman were carried into effect, there would be a great disruption of trade, which would be injurious to our own people. &sect; Mr. HUNT Could not our own people—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/27/limited-companies-calls-on-shanes", "section": "limited-companies-calls-on-shanes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": " call is made for payment on a date before the expiry of the moratorium, the date for payment would be extended under the moratorium. &sect; Sir A. MARKHAM Can any shareholder, in a call made by any limited company on unpaid shares, avail himself of the moratorium? &sect; Mr. LLOYD GEORGE Yes. &sect; Sir A. MARKHAM Does it mean that no company can raise additional capital to meet its liabilities? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/aug/27", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/aug/27/intoxicating-liquor-temporary", "section": "intoxicating-liquor-temporary", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "vening. I did not find that the public-houses being open led to any abuse, and I am quite sure that their being closed would deprive these men of any companionship during the evening. It is a very large order to close public-houses at nine o'clock, and the approval of the Secretary of State should be sought in every case. These licensing bodies are only too prone to be severe on the public-house. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/freeholders-borough-of-st-pancras", "section": "freeholders-borough-of-st-pancras", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"", "preceding_text": "s the ground plan of the London County Council? &sect; Mr. LLOYD GEORGE That I do not know. &sect; Mr. CASSEL May I take it, then, that the right hon. Gentleman made his statement with regard to St. Pancras without knowing whether or not there was any official information? &sect; Mr. LLOYD GEORGE I made my statement on the authority of a local gentleman who knows the circumstances thoroughly well—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "tages, and why they were not building cottages now. I do not know whether he has done so. He did not tell me that he had done so, so I thought the best plan was to do again what I did on the former occasion and inquire myself, so I addressed an inquiry to a very large number of builders. The question I put to them was this:— Have the Budget Land Taxes affected the building trade in your district? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh.\"", "preceding_text": ", and I have the 500 printed replies here. These replies are all practically and substantially to the same effect. Perhaps the best plan would be for me to read two of them as a sample. I would tell the Chancellor of the Exchequer that this is not a secret inquiry like his own; this is all perfectly fair and above board. Of course, I cannot disclose publicly the names of these unfortunate people. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is by his cousin.\"", "preceding_text": "ison he drew with Belgium was very much to our disadvantage, and against our methods. He neglected to state what was the condition of those men so employed in Belgium, for that is the point. In talking to the agricultural labourer we ought to be perfectly frank with him. I turn to a book, entitled \"Lessons from Belgium,\" by the hon. Member for York, 814 who sits on the opposite side of the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Hon. Member: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": " Haversham Report and in paragraph 7:— It would appear that one of the primary causes of the want of confidence on the part of the landlords and their desire to sell the whole or portions of their agri- 822 cultural estates is the accumulation of and the fear of the effect of recent legislation, although no evidence was adduced that purely agricultural land has actually been injuriously affected. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "An Hon. Member: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "ing tenants been very unusual for rents to be increased, though in some cases landlords have had their farms revalued, and have come to an arrangement with their tenants. New lettings have as a rule been effected at increased rents during the past five years. Then the hon. Member gets up and suggests that owing to the Finance Act the progress of agriculture and its development have been arrested. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "An HON. Member: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "led to compensation, why is not the tenant who is compelled to leave his farm for other reasons? Why not, for example, in a case of capricious conviction? There is ample evidence, not that such cases are common, but that they do exist in this country. What, too, is to become of the man who, owing to old age or varying circumstances, has to give up his farm? Is not he entitled to any compensation? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. Members: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": " tell the hon. Member why. A remarkable pamphlet has been issued by what I believe is called the Land Conference, which is said to be an answer to the Report of the Land Inquiry Committee. The pamphlet is advocating State-aided purchase, and here is one statement made:— Rents cannot be raised on a man's improvements. Is it admitted on the other side that rents are raised on tenants' improvements? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "g that they never thought of their farms being sold. In some cases, although no written consent has been obtained, the work has been done with the knowledge of the owner's agent, who raised no objection. I am aware, of course, that legally, under such circumstances, tenants cannot, claim to be paid, but it is often, in my opinion, most unfair to take advantage of tenants under these circumstance. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_text": "in this, country. Hon. Members argue, say rightly, that high productivity in an agricultural country, unfortunately, does not mean increased wages. The hon. Member said the labourers only got 1s. 7d. a day, but in Belgium rents are three times as high as in this country. The increased productivity of that country has added to the wealth of one class, but it has not increased the wages of another. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "ife in the country to an audience at the Holloway Empire. He said:— Do you know the villages? I do. I have lived in them. Then he went on to say:— You have no notion in the towns of the pagan thraldom that stifles liberty in our villages. The squire is god; the parson, the agent, the gamekeeper, they are his priests. The pheasants and hares, they are sacred birds and beasts of the tabernacle. 833 "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "no difficulty in disposing of it. &sect; Sir G. YOUNGER Try Scotland. &sect; Mr. RUPERT GWYNNE Why did you not speculate in land instead of in Marconis? &sect; Mr. LLOYD GEORGE I do not think there is any reason at all for making personal observations, because the whole Debate has been conducted with the same good humour. The Hon. Member for Eastbourne is too apt to mistake offensiveness for wit. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Limehouse!\"", "preceding_text": "d the price of material is dear. He was not treating the House fairly, because he was pretending that he was not making a partisan attack, but stating judicially the whole problem in order to obtain the verdict of the House upon it. He did not state the whole of the problem, and I am sorry to say that he must have known that he was not stating the whole of the problem. He certainly must know now. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Limehouse.\"", "preceding_text": "ment Board will do it for them—he was attacking his own Bill, and his own proposals—does he mean to say, if the Finance Act of 1909 were abolished, that Bill would be unnecessary? What is the good, then, of diverting attention from the real problem by mere repetition of irrelevant and rather paltry attacks— &sect; Lord ROBERT CECIL Hear, hear. &sect; Mr. LLOYD GEORGE Such as the Noble Lord makes. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"We have had no chance.\"", "preceding_text": "t all to having the same old Debates about the Finance Act, 1910 . It is always gratifying to me that, whereas the Budget of 1909 raised about £26,000,000 or £27,000,000, the only criticism is made in respect of a tax which is only raising about £600,000 or £700,000 a year. The rest of these taxes, which produce £26,000,000, are passing year by year without a single criticism of any sort or kind. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yorkshire.\"", "preceding_text": "g the North with the South of England? In the South of England, particularly in the arable districts, you have a large number of men, simple agricultural labourers, doing nothing else but odd jobs about the farm. They are not employed with stock, or at any specially skilled work. In the North of England you have practically no agricultural labourers as they are known in the South-east of England. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is true.\"", "preceding_text": " I addressed the House. I can only make this explanation now, by leave of the House. I did not publish the figures. I wrote a letter to the Duke of Sutherland, and surely I was entitled to do so, and to refer to something which he knew. He published the letters. &sect; Mr. PRETYMAN That is just the kind of explanation worthy of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and I knew he was going to say that. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Never!\"", "preceding_text": "WEIGALL Docs the hon. Gentleman suggest that the average tenant farmer in England has not got that to-day? &sect; Mr. MACPHERSON I am coming to that point. I quite agree that in many, in fact in the vast majority of cases throughout England and Wales, the ordinary tenant farmer who farms his farm well and pays his rent regularly, and is quite a decent fellow, is not really turned out of his farm. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": "im. Is it any wonder that under irritation he should in a quite good-natured way attack one or two hon. Gentlemen opposite who may have attacked him? The hon. and gallant Gentleman made one reference to the Duke of Sutherland. He accused my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer of some dishonourable action in publishing some statement that was sent to him privately and confidentially. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "nown what it is, and he has told us how he has suffered and felt what he called the shafts to which public men are liable. He told us when he stood up at that box in June last, or early in July, that he knows what it is to suffer calumnies, slanders, and insults, especially when the most of it and the worst of it is undeserved. Has he sympathy for the Duke of Westminster and the Duke of Montrose? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "lor of the Exchequer to stand at the box as I am now standing here. It is not any fault of mine that it should be necessary now. When the Chancellor of the Exchequer cannot reply to attacks which perfectly easily could have been made before the time it was known he was going to speak— 902 &sect; Viscount HELMSLEY What reply could the Dukes make? &sect; Mr. RUNCIMAN The Chancellor of the Exchequer—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Interruption, and cries of \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_text": "is not any fault of mine that it should be necessary now. When the Chancellor of the Exchequer cannot reply to attacks which perfectly easily could have been made before the time it was known he was going to speak— 902 &sect; Viscount HELMSLEY What reply could the Dukes make? &sect; Mr. RUNCIMAN The Chancellor of the Exchequer—[Interruption.] I shall be glad if the Noble Lord will behave himself. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the other side?\"", "preceding_text": "the Exchequer—[Interruption.] I shall be glad if the Noble Lord will behave himself. [Interruption, and cries of \"Withdraw.\"] If I have said anything unparliamentary, I am quite prepared to withdraw. &sect; Mr. SPEAKER The expression \"behave himself\" is not an unparliamentary expression; but I think the right hon. Gentleman will see that, used by him as it was just now, it was rather provocative. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "but in a spirit of careful, fair, and candid argument. I think he has just reason for complaint, and for considering that these attacks, not on the main lines of his policy, but really on the form of speech adopted by him in the country, should at least have been made before he had spoken in the Debate. The time at which the Chancellor of the Exchequer was going to speak was perfectly well known. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_text": "ty of raising that argument? &sect; Mr. SPEAKER The point to which I was taking exception was the persistent way in which the Noble Lord, to-day in particular, has interrupted every speaker from the Front Bench with a running fire of comment. That is destructive of the whole system under which the Debates of this House have hitherto been conducted. &sect; Viscount HELMSLEY May I, Mr. Speaker, ask—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_text": "nning fire of comment. That is destructive of the whole system under which the Debates of this House have hitherto been conducted. &sect; Viscount HELMSLEY May I, Mr. Speaker, ask—[Interruption]—may I say with all respect that I am sorry I have incurred your displeasure, but I do not really think that your observations are quite justified. As a matter of fact, I do not think that my interruptions—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, 907 hear.\"", "preceding_text": "use, I made a remark to my right hon. Friend neither louder nor different to the remarks one usually makes. &sect; Mr. LLOYD GEORGE Oh, oh! &sect; Mr. LONG If the Chancellor of the Exchequer has any charge to make against me let him make it, and I will meet it. I have not sought or made this interruption. The Minister for Agriculture has chosen to make a charge against me of personal discourtesy. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_text": "im make it, and I will meet it. I have not sought or made this interruption. The Minister for Agriculture has chosen to make a charge against me of personal discourtesy. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, 907 hear.\"] I ask that that charge should be made so that you, Mr. Speaker, will be able to adjudicate upon it. &sect; Mr. RUNCIMAN Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will allow me to explain what I have said. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "nnot leave the matter there. The right hon. Gentleman has chosen to make a charge against me which, during the thirty-three years I have been in the House, has never been made before. The right hon. Gentleman must either substantiate his charge or withdraw it. The statement is that I have made certain interruptions in his speech which were audible to him, but not audible to the rest of the House. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "; Mr. RUNCIMAN I can only say that it is not open to me to reply to the debating remarks of the right hon. Gentleman if they are not made in such a way as to be audible to the House. If the right hon. Gentleman wishes to make any debating comments, I will leave him time at the end. That is the best opportunity I can give him on this occasion for making them in such a way as to be open to a reply. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "t, may ask other landlords to conform. &sect; Mr. LONG The right hon. Gentleman was good enough to say a moment or two ago that he would give me time in which to deal with the criticisms I wished to offer on his speech. His measure of the time in which his speech can be criticised is apparently very different from his measure of the time in which he desires to express the views of the Government. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/17", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/17/debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "section": "debate-on-the-address-sixth-day", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Some of them.\"", "preceding_text": " the country; between the platform speeches of the Chancellor of the Exchequer in what he has been pleased to term his \"land-bursting campaign,\" and his speeches delivered 912 &sect; here. They have roared outside, but here it has been a case of the dove. The right hon. Gentleman who has just spoken, after he had got over his attack on this side of the House, made a speech in defence of landlords—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/deportations-south-africa", "section": "deportations-south-africa", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "thin the meaning of Section 1 (3) of the Aliens Act, 1905 , an undesirable immigrant to whom leave to land in the United Kingdom may be refused. &sect; Major ARCHER-SHEE May I ask first, whether Mr. Poutsma is a naturalised British subject in the United Kingdom; and, secondly, whether the right hon. Gentleman will introduce legislation to amend the Aliens Act so that desperadoes of this character—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/education-bill", "section": "education-bill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_text": "ht hon. Gentleman aware that the local education authorities throughout the kingdom are intensely desirous of having a real Educational Bill and not a religious-squabbles Bill? &sect; Mr. SPEAKER That is not a question designed to elicit information; it is an argument. &sect; Lord ROBERT CECIL On that answer, which was rather imperfectly heard owing to a dispute taking place on the Labour Benches—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/mr-j-e-taylors-reinstate-ment-point-of", "section": "mr-j-e-taylors-reinstate-ment-point-of", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_text": "ion. That is a misstatement; I did not make the observation then, but when he put a supplementary question which in my judgment, and in the judgment of all who listened to it, was of a personal and most offensive character. It was not a series of questions, but a series of observations which hon. Members on these benches resented. I did say to him that he should be the last to make these charges. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/strike-riots-dublin", "section": "strike-riots-dublin", "cue_text": "An HON. Member: \"This evidence was sworn.\"", "preceding_text": "n. Member for Blackfriars throughout his whole argument assumed that if a further inquiry took place it would be a much better inquiry than that which has already been held. I am not prepared to assume that at all. 991 &sect; Mr. BARNES I will assume that it would enable a representative of the working classes, as was promised by the Chief Secretary, to be present, and sworn evidence to be taken. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/strike-riots-dublin", "section": "strike-riots-dublin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Pass it round\" and \"Circulate it with the Votes.\"", "preceding_text": "ct; 6.0 P.M. &sect; Mr. BOOTH Maybe he was not, but let it go. I have got in my possession here a copy of the \"Sphere.\" It is not, I understand, a political organ at all. The \"Sphere\" reproduced the balcony scene after my description was in print. Anyone can compare the dates. Any impartial persons who will examine it can see what the photographs say, and these photographs were taken on the spot. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/strike-riots-dublin", "section": "strike-riots-dublin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No.\"", "preceding_text": " Irish Executive this state of things would not have occurred. The hon. Member seems to forget that this is one of the reserved services under the Bill of the right hon. Gentlemen opposite. &sect; Mr. DILLON The hon. and learned Member is quite wrong. 1014 &sect; Mr. R. M'NEILL I know what the hon. Member is going to say. He is going too tell us that this is only a reserved service for six years. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/strike-riots-dublin", "section": "strike-riots-dublin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "'s face, and that they picked her up. I find among the evidence at least half a dozen other cases of women hit by the police, and the case of a little child in the Corporation Buildings who said, \"Don't hurt my daddy,\" whereupon he was promptly knocked down by a baton. It seems to me to be the habit of the Dublin police not only to attack men, but also to make a speciality of onslaughts on women. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/road-board-administration", "section": "road-board-administration", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": " of those funds the Road Board is showing either the wisdom or the courage to grapple with those great problems of national traffic upon the scale that the time and occasion demands. The revenue in the hands of 1065 the Road Board amounts to more than £1,000,000 per year. Up to the present time the principal use which they appear to have made of that great revenue is to lock it up in investments. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/road-board-administration", "section": "road-board-administration", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There is one.\"", "preceding_text": "order to meet that new form of traffic the county councils have been endeavouring to have the main roads of the country improved. Towards that end they have been praying for Grants from the Road Board to enable them to make the roads wider and better, and more suitable for this kind of traffic. So far as I understand, there is no representative of any kind of Irish interests on this Board at all. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/road-board-administration", "section": "road-board-administration", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"And your side\"", "preceding_text": " control. &sect; Mr. JOYNSON-HICKS I have listened to the speech of the hon. Gentleman, who 1075 I will not say was defending the Road Board, but was answering for that body, And I am not surprised that he took refuge in the Act of Parliament, and that he expressed his pleasure that he has not been subjected to the pressure which undoubtedly would have been put upon him by Members of his own side—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/road-board-administration", "section": "road-board-administration", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": "ority of Members would agree with that. I know that this Board is founded on what appears to me to be quite a peculiar principle. I do not know how we are to get at this Board, except through this House. I am a practical man, and I want results. I have been on deputations to this Road Board; we have got plenty of compliments, sympathy, soft talk, and all that sort of thing, but very little money. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/road-board-administration", "section": "road-board-administration", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": "leman will give a further explanation with regard to the policy to be pursued in Ireland. &sect; Mr. J. M. HENDERSON With regard to hoarding up this money, I think, if the hon. Members refer to speeches made from the Front Bench when the Act was under discussion, they will find that it was distinctly understood that the money should be kept as far as possible for times when unemployment was rife. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/road-board-administration", "section": "road-board-administration", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not all.\"", "preceding_text": "oyment was rife. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] Very great complaints have been made against the Road Board. They have a very difficult task, and so far as my experience goes, they have carried it out very well. They have very, very great difficulties, and the only remedy for all this complaint is one which cannot be far away, namely, that all this road expenditure should come upon the Imperial Exchequer. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/feb/18", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/feb/18/road-board-administration", "section": "road-board-administration", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Ireland?\"", "preceding_text": " and that alone, ought to be the test. I hope the House will not let it go forth as its considered opinion that population ought to be considered as the sole factor. If it is, many parts of the country which have to bear a very heavy cost at the present moment through the depredations upon their roads of motor cars registered in great commercial centres or great cities would come off very poorly. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "ttlement. After all, the proposal which the Prime Minister made, so far as we are able to understand it now, is one which nobody really thinks, having examined the position in Ulster, and in Ireland, and having decided the facts for themselves, would expect them to accept. Hon. Gentlemen opposite, more outside of this House than in it, have declared that we on the Opposition side are not sincere. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes!\"", "preceding_text": "any man who claims to be sincere himself to make against his political opponents. I come now to the second charge, that we want to use Home Rule as a means of attacking and destroying something else. Hon. Gentlemen opposite say, \"What the Opposition really want is, 1044 not to destroy Home Rule, but to break down the Parliament Act .\" Do right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite really believe that? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Foreign Secretary.\"", "preceding_text": "going to discuss now, as we have already debated it, and no doubt we shall again, the new peril which the policy of hon. Members opposite has brought upon this country. You chose to say that we were bluffing. You would not listen to anything that we told you. You talked about going on full steam ahead; of meeting force by force. Where is that language now? Who talks now of meeting force by force? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Will they keep their forces?\"", "preceding_text": "lection be upon Ulster? &sect; Sir E. GREY As you come to the end of the six years, or period, or any time within the six years, it will either be apparent that Ulster, having had experience, as we shall all have had, of the working of the Dublin Parliament, is prepared to come in on terms, or it will appear that the resistance of Ulster is as decided and as strong as it is at the present moment. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "An [HON. MEMBER: \"The Army versus the People.\"", "preceding_text": "opinion. The feeling is known perfectly well without the existence of forces. If that is so, and if it still be the case at the end of six years, that only by force and by coercion can you make a settlement of the Irish question at the end of six years on the lines of our Bill, does anybody believe it possible that the election in this country can take place on anything but that particular issue? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Are only Liberals to vote?", "preceding_text": "ity may be after the election, we are to find ourselves in the position of having to begin at the beginning, and take two and a half years before we can bring the Bill into operation. I did not entirely follow what the view was. Had the right hon. Gentleman opposite said whether he was willing to substitute an election for the Referendum, with the same condition about plural voting attached to it—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_text": "rals to vote?]—Why, if you use the Referendum to obtain the true opinion of the people of this country, is that to be more truly and fairly obtained by eliminating the plural voter, when, if you come to an election, it is necessary to retain the plural voter in order that the election should be fair? &sect; Mr. BONAR LAW The right hon. Gentleman cannot possibly have considered the subject at all. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: \"Try it.\"", "preceding_text": "BONAR LAW The right hon. Gentleman cannot possibly have considered the subject at all. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"] He will agree with me. Does he not see that in a Referendum every vote is of the same value. &sect; Sir E. GREY You take a Referendum of the people. &sect; Mr. BONAR LAW Of the full country. &sect; Sir E. GREY I do not believe that in that method you would get the people to go to the poll. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Now the temperature rises.\"", "preceding_text": " John Redmond) and get votes. He agreed to hand over the Rohillas, and when they would not submit he lent the British Army to shoot down the Rohillas. That was an infamous crime. I really think when it is contemplated to shed blood by the bucketful, and to shoot down hundreds and thousands of human beings, in order to carry through a miserable party man&#x0153;uvre, it is sheer, stark wickedness. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": " saying which line they would prefer to take. I think that there is a great deal to be said for the view that the attitude of officers, either for or against, should be dismissed out of our discussion. Personally, much as I hate and loathe the present Government in every direction, I would much sooner see it kept in power for another five or six months than that we should see civil war in Ulster. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "electors were aware of what would happen if a majority in favour of the Parliament Act came back to this House. I have here my address Which was delivered to the electors of East Manchester in December, 1910, and I there stated distinctly that, if elected, I should support a measure of local self-government for Ireland, because I believe that only by that means can justice be meted out to Leland. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_text": "if it had not been for that knowledge they might have voted in a different way. I am willing for the moment to assume that the party below the Gangway opposite are an absolutely independent party, altogether free from the control of the Government. If that is so, why is it that those hon. Members there are so hostile to the Ulster point of view? The Ulster point of view is a Labour point of view. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, No!\"", "preceding_text": " is not a purely materialistic movement, the moment we get a movement supported by very large masses of the working classes, but which, at all events, has an element of idealism in it, however mistaken it may be, then hon. Members opposite say, \"Our principles about the military—let them go to the winds! Send your troops, send your Artillery, and tell the right hon. Gentleman to shoot them down!\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_text": " had very conflicting statements upon this point from responsible Ministers of the Crown. I hope that before this Debate closes we shall have some more definite statement. The right hon. Gentleman has told us to-day, in no uncertain words, that it is the intention of the Government—and I do not deny that it is within their 1095 rights—to use the forces of the Crown to force Home Rule upon Ulster. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_text": "s have very strong views upon that subject. It is, therefore, only right that we should take all the advantage we can, I think not unfairly, out of the present situation. I hope my hon. Friends in the Nationalist party will thoroughly understand that on this question we are as absolutely loyal to them as we are to our own leaders. We recognise to the fullest extent the pledges they have received. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/amendment-proposed", "section": "amendment-proposed", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No, no!\"", "preceding_text": "Mr. Ronald M'Neill) described by tradition, steadfastness, and confidence in an unselfish leader, have asserted and established their right to have their views heard in this House. Ulster, like the rest of Ireland during these troublesome times, during, at any rate, thirty years, Ulster, in the political sense, has by its steadfast vote declared its determination against what is called Home Rule. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/mar/31", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/mar/31/unemployment", "section": "unemployment", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_text": " the Gentleman who proposes, like the Member for Merthyr Tydvil, an eight-hours day, which may be succeeded by a six-hours day and four-hours day, so as to constantly handicap productive trades of this country more and more, in order to employ our unemployed working classes who now emigrate from this country by hundreds of thousands per year. Last year 302,000 persons emigrated from this country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "lords/1914/mar/31", "house": "lords", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1914/mar/31/the-army-and-ulster", "section": "the-army-and-ulster", "cue_text": "Ministerial cries of \"No, no.\"", "preceding_text": "without a precedent in the recent history of this country. And, finally, you have tried to cover up your tracks by pretending that a plot has been organised between the aristocracy and the Army and by striking a blow at the Army itself. That language is strong, and yet I venture to say that at the bottom of your hearts every one of your Lordships knows it 823 substantially to represent the truth. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Move it&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": " not be given unless those Bills are passed. Are we now to vote this money on that understanding or not? I am very much inclined to move to report Progress. Honestly, I do not see how we can carry on the Debate under these circumstances, and without knowing whether the money is going to be applied or not to the purposes to which the Chancellor of the Exchequer desires that they should be applied. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"If there is an Autumn Session.\"", "preceding_text": "hose Grants are not to be given unless those contentious Bills are passed. As to the Autumn Session, the statement in the Press is apparently official, but I hope that when the Chancellor of the Exchequer replies he will give us a little more information on the subject, which I think is of very great interest to Members on both sides of the House. We may now proceed, apparently, on the assumption—"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "argument, that the general wealth of the Income Tax paying classes can bear the burden laid upon them, I come back to the point that the burden should be laid as evenly as possible. In Income Tax an attempt is made to lay it evenly; but in Death Duties it is a pure lottery. The rate of the tax is such that obviously every possible attempt at avoidance must, and I venture to say ought to, be made. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "onditions imposed at this moment by the House of Commons. Look at another feature of it. We have the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and we have those people who are most insistent upon changes in our rating system. What is the principle which they are never tired of putting forward, and which the Chancellor of the Exchequer put forward in his speech? Do not rate, he says, a man on his improvements. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_text": "tent upon changes in our rating system. What is the principle which they are never tired of putting forward, and which the Chancellor of the Exchequer put forward in his speech? Do not rate, he says, a man on his improvements. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] Hon. Members opposite say \"Hear, hear.\" They desire to make changes in our rating system so that a man should not be rated on his improvement. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Ah&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "provements. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] Hon. Members opposite say \"Hear, hear.\" They desire to make changes in our rating system so that a man should not be rated on his improvement. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I shall have a word to say on that principle in a moment. May I now say this: That the Death Duties are the worst and heaviest taxes upon improvements that could possibly be conceived? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "ve been taken. That is undoubtedly because there is at the present time much evasion of the duty. My right hon. Friend 483 will propose in the Revenue Bill of this year measures which will stop that evasion and make the tax yield the fruit that was anticipated from it. With respect to the Undeveloped Land Duty, my right hon. Friend's estimate in 1909 was £140,000, and it is now yielding £230,000. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He said so&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "ars, you must necessarily exclude that £10,000,000 of increased expenditure, since it is largely owing to the taking over of the great National Telephone system, with the whole of their revenue at the same time, and since it is largely, in fact, mainly, owing to growth; of work. 487 Mr. F. HALL (Dulwich) May I ask if that expenditure has not enabled the Post Office to get a larger annual revenue? "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh&#x0021;\" and \"Alone&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "on. Members that we on these benches do not swallow things like that. Our position is perfectly clear. If there is no Rating Bill and Valuation Bill which will give the local authorities the power to-use this dole as a relief of the rates upon improvements alone, then we will do our best to prevent there being any dole, and to prevent there being any other Liberal legislation till we get our way. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_text": ", but I have put it at forty, because that is nearer middle age, and it has provided me with a figure which I confess is easier to work out. Working out the figures on this basis, one gets some very surprising results. The total amount of tax on this basis which a man with a £150 is going to pay is at the rate of 5. 4d. in the £. In the case of a man with £300 a year the rate is 14.22d. in the £. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That would legalise them&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "usement. As people are asked to pay duties on what are called luxuries, so they might properly be asked to pay duties on what might be called their amusements and diversions. I think the time has arrived when the Chancellor of the Exchequer, if he had the courage to do so, should look around and see whether revenue could not be obtained from the race meetings that are held throughout the country. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_text": " with this matter. I think that the Committee as a whole ought to-congratulate the Government with at last having dealt with this admittedly difficult and thorny question. There is no difference of opinion on either side that it is high time this question was dealt with. I think my right hon. Friend therefore deserves credit from all sides of the House for having taken the step which he has done. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question?\"", "preceding_text": "nce Act . I think we are all very grateful to him for the work he did in connection with that Act; but I venture to criticise the action of the Government in placing upon the shoulders of an official already so necessarily busy, as the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, the responsibility for so complicated a measure as the Insurance Act . It was an experiment which I hope will not be repeated. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/07", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/07/budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "section": "budget-resolutions-tea-duty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "n very little answering ring of congratulations from the Members who sat around them. Any observer of the Debates during these two days would have realised that among the speakers on both sides of the Committee, no doubt with the exception of the hon. Member for Blackburn (Mr. Snowden), there was an uncommon degree of concern about the very large figures to which our expenditure has now amounted. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about 19?\"", "preceding_text": "ody knows domestic servants are getting more and more liberty on Sunday. They are getting more time off in the week and also on Sundays, and, if they stand in need of improvements, if they were to combine in a strong union they would accomplish far more than this Bill. I defy anybody who supports this Bill to show what useful effect it will have upon domestic servants. Now I come to paragraph 20. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "she received notice to leave, she may prosecute me because she made my bed on Sunday morning, and I shall have to prove in a Court of Law that it was unavoidable that this particular housemaid had to make my bed on Sunday morning. It is absurd to suppose that a Bill which enacts provisions of that sort can possibly pass into law. I want to say one word from the point of view of railway companies. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not much&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "ning. It is absurd to suppose that a Bill which enacts provisions of that sort can possibly pass into law. I want to say one word from the point of view of railway companies. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear&#x0021;\"] I know that 2260 railway companies are very bad people—especially the directors—and that the chief wickedness is centred in the board room: but even they have some claim to consideration. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_text": " this Bill was passed into law, all that would come to an end, and the result would be that the national pastimes of Ireland, of which we are as proud as you are of your games here, would be stopped and all Ireland would be seething with agitation to have the Bill repealed. Whether the Bill is repealed or not or become law by any chance, we are going to carry on the playing of our national games. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "ternoon role—and I should have been somewhat suspicious had he been\" backing the Bill, for that would have been an argument, to my mind, for opposing it—asked why the House should not legislate for horses and not for men. The simple answer is this: Those who own horses will pay more attention to them than they will to men, because they have to buy the horses, and they can get the men for nothing. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not the proposal of the Bill? \"", "preceding_text": "has been put before the House, and I ask, that question having been put before the House, will you formally, as the House of Commons, acknowledge that the workers of this country are entitled to one day's rest in seven, and will you, as a House of Commons, representing this great nation, affirm that the Lord's Day is the one day of rest in seven? Can you say, \"No?\" Can any Christian man say \"No?\" "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "l you formally, as the House of Commons, acknowledge that the workers of this country are entitled to one day's rest in seven, and will you, as a House of Commons, representing this great nation, affirm that the Lord's Day is the one day of rest in seven? Can you say, \"No?\" Can any Christian man say \"No?\" [An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not the proposal of the Bill? \"] That is the proposal of the Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "s, representing this great nation, affirm that the Lord's Day is the one day of rest in seven? Can you say, \"No?\" Can any Christian man say \"No?\" [An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not the proposal of the Bill? \"] That is the proposal of the Bill. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no&#x0021;\"] It is the declaration in the Bill which you will negative by refusing the Bill. The word \"Sunday\" is in the Clause of the Bill. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/may/22", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/may/22/weekly-rest-day-bill", "section": "weekly-rest-day-bill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It does&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "f the individual, and all that kind of thing. It is as old as the hills. &sect; Sir F. BANBURY And as true&#x0021; Mr. CHANCELLOR All legislation, if it be effective and of any value whatever, must interfere with the personal liberty of certain individuals. The hon. Member who spoke just now, spoke on behalf of the Hibernian League and their Sunday games. This Bill does not put down Sunday games. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/nov/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/nov/11/debate-on-the-address", "section": "debate-on-the-address", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And Wales&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": "lect that when what you may call the recruiting boom was on it was found necessary—I have no doubt with very good cause—to put a check on the rapidity of the movement. A boom when damped down always has some difficulty in restarting. Perhaps the present rate is hardly sufficient for our needs. But do not mistake the patriotism of Englishmen. English, Scotch, or Irish: we all love our common land. "}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue_html", "date": "commons/1914/nov/11", "house": "commons", "url": "https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1914/nov/11/debate-on-the-address", "section": "debate-on-the-address", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO, no&#x0021;\"", "preceding_text": " it; we want to discuss the matter as far as we can in a friendly and non-controversial spirit. Therefore I shall propose to give a day for that purpose. If that is generally agreed upon, we might put it on one side for the moment. As regards the arrangement for payment, I quite agree that there has been a great deal of confusion in the early weeks, but I hope matters are a great deal better now. "}
