{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.83.1", "colnum": "83", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. BARLOW", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. BARLOW", "preceding_text": "be made up in various proportions of covenanted and un-covenanted benefit or it may be even wholly un-covenanted. Third, if and when an applicant has received 22 weeks' benefit in the fourth period from the 2nd November last there is to be a further grant of 22 weeks' additional un-covenanted benefit, but the additional 22 weeks will not commence until there has been an interposition of two weeks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.83.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.102.0", "colnum": "102", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"To extend the old one!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "preceding_text": "ermission, the 22 weeks will expire on the 4th April, and I always contemplated that, unless things recovered very much more rapidly than there appeared any likelihood of their doing, we should have had to come here, if we had been the Government, and ask for the sort of extension which my right hon. Friend is proposing now. He proposes to com mence a new period of benefit on the 19th April&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.102.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.105.3", "colnum": "105", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "preceding_text": "s the demand upon everybody's lips, and upon no lip is it more honestly uttered than upon the lips of the great bulk of the people now suffering from unemployment. Directly the slump began 2&#189; years ago the point was pressed upon me by those responsible for private industrial concerns. They came to me and said, \"If you will only allow this 15s. a week benefit to go as a contribution to wages.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.105.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.105.3", "colnum": "105", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"What about the right hon. Gentleman the Member for West Swansea? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "preceding_text": " and putting into hand for the relief of unemployment emergency relief work, which they would not have considered it expedient to do if there had been no emergency. That was the proposition urged upon me. It was a proposition which certainly did not involve all the dangers of the wider proposition, which had definitely turned down. I am sure my right hon. Friend will carefully consider the matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.105.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.105.3", "colnum": "105", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The men pay for it!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "preceding_text": "s&#8212;that not for the first time&#8212;though he did not use the term to-day&#8212;he has called the unemployment benefit waste, It is a benefit which is frankly provided by a contributory system for the man who is out of work. It is just like the trade union out-of-work pay. In neither case is there service rendered in return, but there is not a Member on these Benches who can say it is waste.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.105.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.105.3", "colnum": "105", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "cue_text": "HON, MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "preceding_text": " continued until the debt has been liquidated. I am quite sure he will take further comfort in that fact. But I do seriously suggest that if you begin to pull this about, you will probably stand the risk of smashing it up altogether. Some people would not mind that. There are some who openly do not want a contributory scheme. Some of them are on my right above the Gangway. They frankly tell us so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.105.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.151.1", "colnum": "151", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HANNON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He is not in his place!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HANNON", "preceding_text": "romises which they made to their constituents at the General Election? It would be much more useful if, instead of criticising speeches made at the Election, they showed in what way they were using their constructive capacity to achieve the ends which they hoped to realise by their policy, instead of criticising ours. I disagree entirely with my right hon. Friend the Member for the City of London.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.151.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.173.0", "colnum": "173", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "de from the country that the Ministry would be obliged to refund them. I feel that the Government is plunging deeper and deeper into a financial abyss of these weekly doles, which, including the poor rate, amount to something like &#163;100,000,000 a year. Just imagine that this economical Government, which is straining every effort to cut down expenditure, which is ruining our educational system.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.173.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.173.0", "colnum": "173", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "an give the child back the years stolen from him. If you are supplying inferior teachers, if you are refusing to build schools, no one can give back to those children the year of which they have been deprived. I say this Government, which is doing that in a frantic attempt to take some more off the Income Tax, is actually continuing to spend &#163;100,000,000 a year in doles in one way or another.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.173.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.181.1", "colnum": "181", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is your policy?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "n read how you could stop it and prevent it, and then you set to work merely to relieve the distress by making allowances on the level of semi-starvation. We on this side think that such a policy is intolerably wasteful of the nation's resources, but, what is far more important, it is inevitably detrimental to the health and the strength and the character of a large proportion of the wage-earners.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.181.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.182.3", "colnum": "182", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "ing gravity. Of course, the Bill does not pretend to touch the problem of unemployment. What the wage-earner demands is that involuntary unemployment should not be relieved after it has occurred, but should he prevented from occurring. Hon. Members on the other side may laugh at that; may, if they like, admit that they do not know how to deal with it. We believe that unemployment can he prevented.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.182.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.182.3", "colnum": "182", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\" and \"Open up the land!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "nt. What the wage-earner demands is that involuntary unemployment should not be relieved after it has occurred, but should he prevented from occurring. Hon. Members on the other side may laugh at that; may, if they like, admit that they do not know how to deal with it. We believe that unemployment can he prevented. [HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"] Widespread and long-continued unemployment can be prevented.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.182.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.182.3", "colnum": "182", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "n. Members on the other side may laugh at that; may, if they like, admit that they do not know how to deal with it. We believe that unemployment can he prevented. [HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"] Widespread and long-continued unemployment can be prevented. [HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\" and \"Open up the land!\"] The people of the country believe that unemployment can be prevented. They ask that it shall be prevented.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.182.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.182.3", "colnum": "182", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "hat they do not know how to deal with it. We believe that unemployment can he prevented. [HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"] Widespread and long-continued unemployment can be prevented. [HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\" and \"Open up the land!\"] The people of the country believe that unemployment can be prevented. They ask that it shall be prevented. [ Interruption. ] Hon. Members opposite will not listen to our proposals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.182.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.184.0", "colnum": "184", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the MINISTRY of LABOUR (Major Boyd-Carpenter)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the MINISTRY of LABOUR (Major Boyd-Carpenter)", "preceding_text": "nk perhaps hon. Members will equally agree with me that it had very little relation to the proposals of my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour. In fact we can quite equally agree with the hon. Member for Seaham on one point, that we, probably, on this side of the House are suffering from an entire incapacity to understand what he was talking about. The Bill before the House is a modest&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.184.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.185.1", "colnum": "185", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "preceding_text": ", and to destroy friction between classes in this country. If you can do that you will have done something which in essence is good. I have noticed with great regret that over this Bill there is a suggestion that Members sitting on this side of the House are far more desirous of doing something to save their own skins rather than to promote the welfare of those whom the Bill is supposed to affect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.185.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.185.1", "colnum": "185", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "cue_text": "An Hon. MEMBER: \"Why the gap?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "preceding_text": " in much uneven scale, Thou weighest all others by thyself. This Bill is deliberately framed to assist men in a moment of intense difficulty to tide over their troubles, to give a little help to those whose outlook is rather hard and black to-day. Take what happens under this Bill. There are 44 weeks of covenanted and uncovenanted benefits out of 50 weeks assured until the 15th 'October this year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.185.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.189.5", "colnum": "189", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "The figures I quoted have just been confirmed by the hon. and gallant Gentleman. I said there were 1,670,000 people unemployed, and I think I said that 1,000,000&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.189.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.191.0", "colnum": "191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "preceding_text": "I was referring to covenanted benefit. I think the hon. Member will understand why that is so. A great claim was made by the hon. Member for Seaham for uncovenanted benefit. I said, and say again, you can hardly expect a man who draws uncovenanted benefit to be in exactly the same position as a man who draws covenanted benefit.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.191.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-05", "file": "debates1923-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "3523facd0980fe39", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.191.0", "colnum": "191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And the other would have it if he had the opportunity.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "preceding_text": "nk the hon. Member will understand why that is so. A great claim was made by the hon. Member for Seaham for uncovenanted benefit. I said, and say again, you can hardly expect a man who draws uncovenanted benefit to be in exactly the same position as a man who draws covenanted benefit. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"] Because a man who draws covenanted benefit has a contractual engagement with the State.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-05a.191.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.502.0", "colnum": "502", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS(ALTERNATIVE VOTE).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GERALD HURST", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GERALD HURST", "preceding_text": " what has been one of the most important characteristics of our Constitution for over 600 years. We are slow in making these changes, and it is absurd to make them unless some good ground, something beyond mere mathematical formul&#230;, is adduced in their support. At present our system is that the political faith which commands the greatest adherence in a constituency secures its representative.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.502.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.566.0", "colnum": "566", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FEES (INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": "ultation, and I would say this to the House, that there are other organisations just as capable of conferring advice, and they are as much entitled to consideration at the hands of the Board of Trade as the organisation to which the hon. Member for Greenock referred. That will be impressed on the right hon. Gentleman every time I rise to speak in this House on shipping questions and in other ways.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.566.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.590.0", "colnum": "590", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FEES (INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. EMLYN-JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"All the difference!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. EMLYN-JONES", "preceding_text": " be said that the shipowners have been the pampered pets of the Board of Trade. Objection has been taken to Sub-section (4) of Clause 2. It is not the desire of any shipowner that the examination of food supplies on board ships should be curtailed. This Bill still gives the Board of Trade power in this matter. It only means the substitution of the words \"may certify\" for the words \"shall certify.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.590.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.596.0", "colnum": "596", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FEES (INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major BURNIE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Carry on\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major BURNIE", "preceding_text": "he the aggregate estimated cost in that year of the administration of the services in respect of which the fees are payable. The right hon. Gentleman went on to say that &#163;92,000 was the amount received before and that he proposed to increase the fee so as to raise the total of &#163;210,000. If the Noble Lord (Viscount Wolmer) will answer my question on this point at once I will not carry on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.596.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.600.0", "colnum": "600", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FEES (INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Viscount WOLMER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Students?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount WOLMER", "preceding_text": "little exaggerated. My right hon. Friend, in introducing the Bill, I think, fully explained what was proposed. It was proposed that on four days in the week a sum of 6d. should be charged for admission, that there should be no charge for admission on Sundays to the Natural History Museum at Kensington, and no charge on Saturdays or on Bank Holidays, that all students should be admitted free&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.600.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.600.0", "colnum": "600", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FEES (INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Viscount WOLMER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount WOLMER", "preceding_text": "d free, and that every possible step should be taken to prevent the poor being deprived of that source of knowledge. The hon. Member for Durham drew a very heart-rending picture of a small boy who wanted to go into the British Museum. My only reply is that if he wanted to go in on a Sunday&#8212;though I believe, as a matter of fact, he is not allowed to do so on Sunday because it is closed&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.600.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.611.3", "colnum": "611", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "it that we ought to do nothing of the kind. There is a further reason why I think this Amendment ought to be accepted by the Government. If this provision be made, you have settled the permanent form of unemployment insurance, and when the emergency period is over, whenever that may be, when this time of stress has passed away, it will not then be necessary for the Government to come to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.611.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.611.3", "colnum": "611", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "ettled the permanent form of unemployment insurance, and when the emergency period is over, whenever that may be, when this time of stress has passed away, it will not then be necessary for the Government to come to the House. [ Interruption. ] An hon. Friend on the Labour benches is of a sanguine disposition and predicts that his friends will then be on the Treasury Bench. He may be disappointed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.611.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.625.1", "colnum": "625", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "d to the Middle East. I remember an optimistic prediction by the late Prime Minister and by the late Secretary of State for the Colonies, and now the hon. and gallant Gentleman (Mr. Ormsby-Gore) is entering very worthily into that lineal succession. Time will prove whether the hon. and gallant Gentleman will attain to an equal reputation for accuracy to that of any of his illustrious predecessors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.625.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.625.1", "colnum": "625", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "ear!\"] I am sorry that hon. Members should seek to spurn the very high distinction I am offering to the hon. and gallant Gentleman. In these days when Cabinet Ministers are falling, and offices are becoming vacant, I should have thought a testimonial of this character would have been of the utmost value for the purpose of a Front Bench which is as barren of imagination as the one we see before us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.625.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.643.0", "colnum": "643", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GEORGE BALFOUR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GEORGE BALFOUR", "preceding_text": "erica. There again, though there are conditions totally different from those in Australia, you can do it, to a certain extent, because there you have a vast territory with great untapped resources and continually expanding trades. We have got a population of 45,000,000 on, what is little more, comparatively speaking, than a great mud patch. We have opened our gates to all the workers of the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.643.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.643.0", "colnum": "643", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GEORGE BALFOUR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Which years?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GEORGE BALFOUR", "preceding_text": "t, whether we make or lose. It is not a question of looking at this matter from a selfish point of view. The hon. Gentleman referred&#8212;in contradistinction to the drop in the total wages paid&#8212;to what he called the increase in dividends. Yes, Sir, but what about the difference in the price of money? What about the years during which no dividends were paid, while the wages had to be paid I", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.643.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.653.0", "colnum": "653", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Sir MARTIN CONWAY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir MARTIN CONWAY", "preceding_text": "ense of the State; it is claimed that when he cannot find work he should be maintained at the expense of the State, and that when he reaches old age he should still be maintained at the expense of the State That is a very good and admirable ideal, and I say nothing against it as an idea!. But what does it involve? It involves that the State should have something to say to his coming into the world", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.653.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.653.0", "colnum": "653", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Sir MARTIN CONWAY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Try Socialism!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir MARTIN CONWAY", "preceding_text": "e. It is not enough. We want greater wealth. It is easy to say that there is wealth to spare at the top and that there is poverty at the bottom. That is certainly true. In every society there is a scum and also some dregs. If we could get off the scum and employ what we have got to dissolving the dregs it would be a good thing, but unfortunately it is a process that passes the skill of man to-day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.653.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.657.2", "colnum": "657", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LINFIELD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LINFIELD", "preceding_text": "really rose for the purpose of calling attention to the case of the agricultural labourer. Before the War the wage of the agricultural labourer was 17s. 6d. a week, inclusive. The late Mr. Will Crooks brought a Motion before the House before the War for a minimum wage of 30s., and a corresponding wage in the rural areas. The wage of the agricultural labourer to-day is being reduced to 21s. a week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.657.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.662.1", "colnum": "662", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And by the whole of us on these Labour benches!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "preceding_text": "Not on a national basis. The Resolution of the hon. Member calls attention to the national minimum wage. I have been attempting to point out, evidently with little effect on hon. Members, that the national minimum wage has been turned down by various bodies of opinion in this country, including the Trades Union Congress General Council, the Cave Committee&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.662.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.662.1", "colnum": "662", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Major BOYD-CARPENTER", "preceding_text": "but I think there are. You can only have a satisfactory solution of this question when you base it upon certain defined principles. If you ate going to have it, is it going to be on the subsistence basis only, or is it to be on the family basis? Are you going to say, for example, that a bachelor is going to be placed in exactly the same position in this matter as a married man with three children?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.662.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.665.0", "colnum": "665", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ARTHUR HENDERSON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How about Widnes?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ARTHUR HENDERSON", "preceding_text": "e of the House should expect them to accept a a good share of the responsibility for the late Government. After all, what was the late Government constituted of? We have only to look along that bench and we look into the faces of quite a number of right hon. Gentlemen who held important offices in the old Government&#8212;that is, those of them who have been privileged by the electors to get here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.665.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-07", "file": "debates1923-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "02cdadba32f2e506", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.668.3", "colnum": "668", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.- [1ST MARCIE]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HENDERSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS\" Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HENDERSON", "preceding_text": "debating a similar question. One of the speakers towards the close of the Debate last night said that he intended to keep a record of all the questions that Labour introduced, and the cost that the schemes entailed. That was the attitude of the representatives of the Government. They said, in effect, \"This means &#163;20,000,000,\" or \"This means &#163;25,000,000,\" or \"This means &#163;50,000,000.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-07a.668.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-08", "file": "debates1923-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "380b9ed056468cfe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.810.0", "colnum": "810", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ELLIS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ELLIS", "preceding_text": "lways came back eventually on to the consumers, meaning that in this country those people who are earning weekly wages have to pay in a double sense; first of all, by their share towards the insurance fund, and then in the calculation which the employer makes as to what wages he can afford to pay. The hon. Member forgot that the bulk of the trade of this country is carried on with foreign nations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.810.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-08", "file": "debates1923-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "380b9ed056468cfe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.865.0", "colnum": "865", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BURGESS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BURGESS", "preceding_text": "o be unemployed. There are approximately a quarter of a million unemployed women in this country and the only suggestion offered by the Government is that some might be trained as domestic servants. I was interested to listen to the remark of the Minister that, he could not, understand why A was that domestic service was looked down upon. We on this side of the House can understand why that is so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.865.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-08", "file": "debates1923-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "380b9ed056468cfe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.865.0", "colnum": "865", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BURGESS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BURGESS", "preceding_text": " their leisure time was increased from the old night off once a week or once a fortnight to a few hours a night out or probably every other night out. I am sorry to say we find now that there is a scarcity of jobs for women in this country, that a large number of people who are in a position to employ domestic servants, are once again reverting to the bad conditions which prevailed before the War.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.865.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-08", "file": "debates1923-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "380b9ed056468cfe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.865.2", "colnum": "865", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BURGESS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rot!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BURGESS", "preceding_text": "I wish to inform the hon. Member that there are a large number of girls to-day who are having to endure conditions that no woman should be compelled to endure, in many homes in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.865.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-08", "file": "debates1923-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "380b9ed056468cfe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.870.1", "colnum": "870", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. NORTON-GRIFFITHS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not stay at home?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. NORTON-GRIFFITHS", "preceding_text": "fice, and say, \"We, ourselves, can help ourselves; give us your State aid under the existing law, and let us get busy.\" My whole complaint to-day is this. I have tried time after time, by questions and by letters, to get a move on, to try and get some machinery working quickly, whereby we can help people who want to go overseas&#8212;not to encourage them&#8212;there is no encouragement necessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.870.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-08", "file": "debates1923-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "380b9ed056468cfe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.888.0", "colnum": "888", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "cue_text": "who on rising for the first time as Minister of Health was received with cheers", "preceding_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "preceding_text": "", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.888.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-08", "file": "debates1923-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "380b9ed056468cfe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.888.0", "colnum": "888", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nationalisation!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "preceding_text": "ties before you can make a beginning. The canals of this country are in the hands of private companies and railway companies. There is hardly a single through route which is owned by the same company from end to end. What is the result of that? You cannot carry through any scheme of improvement of a canal, at the expense of the Government and the State, without first of all buying up the property.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.888.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-08", "file": "debates1923-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "380b9ed056468cfe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.888.0", "colnum": "888", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "preceding_text": " in the hands of private companies and railway companies. There is hardly a single through route which is owned by the same company from end to end. What is the result of that? You cannot carry through any scheme of improvement of a canal, at the expense of the Government and the State, without first of all buying up the property. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Nationalisation!\"] Not necessarily nationalisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-08a.888.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.915.2", "colnum": "915", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah, why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "preceding_text": "ve been very stupid for any private Member to introduce a controversial Bill, because they would know perfectly well that they would never get it through. The teaching profession, the Churches and the medical men are not as stupid as that. We feel that we shall have done something big if we can only get this small and what I may call legitimate Bill on to the Statute Book. Why do we want the Bill?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.915.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.915.2", "colnum": "915", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No legislation will ever stop that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "preceding_text": "lescence. Then people say why not have girls and leave out boys? I have tried to show the point of view of the medical profession about boys. The final answer is that, sex discrimination in legislation affecting morals will not be tolerated by an enlightened public conscience partly because it is unjust and partly because immorality is a joint offence which cannot be cured by dealing with one sex.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.915.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.923.0", "colnum": "923", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Certainly!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "preceding_text": "his Bill, she went a little further and said that the critical period is the period from 14 to 20. If the whole of that period is the critical period, why do not the promoters of this Bill face the matter right away and put 20 in the Bill instead! of 18? The reason is obvious. It is that next year they will come along and say that Parliament was so kind this year that the age must be raised to 20.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.923.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.923.0", "colnum": "923", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is that?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "preceding_text": " of any kind of alcohol was so serious in the case of young people between the ages of 14 and 18 that it, was a thing which ought to be prevented. If there is anything in their case at all that is the position. Yet the promoters of the Bill leave absolutely untouched the other section, which may lead to drinking of a far worse description than can ever take place on the premises of a public-house.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.923.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.923.0", "colnum": "923", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "preceding_text": " glass of cider in a place where certainly excessive drinking is discouraged, yet allows a young girl of 14 years and 1 day to go and buy an open pint of spirits, which she may take into the nearest by-lane and consume raw if she chooses? How can anyone justify legislation of that kind? Obviously the real intention of the promoters is to try to keep young people out of the public-house altogether.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.923.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.934.5", "colnum": "934", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir G. HAMILTON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"She shakes it at you now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir G. HAMILTON", "preceding_text": "ers who sit on the benches opposite were the only Members who had the right to speak for the working-classes. [HON:. MEMBERS: \"She did not say that.\"] The Noble Lady seems to have changed her opinion about hon. Members opposite. I have seen her many times since this new Parliament met shaking her fist at hon. Members opposite, because she happened to differ from them on essential labour questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.934.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.938.0", "colnum": "938", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JAMES BROWN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"More.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JAMES BROWN", "preceding_text": "prohibitionist, as he would have seen if he had seen my election addresses, and that has not prevented me from coming here: my constituents will not he annoyed at my support of this Bill. In speaking thus I think I am speaking for the great majority of my colleagues on these benches, and in saying that in spite of the last speaker we know as much of the working class conditions as he possibly can.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.938.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.959.0", "colnum": "959", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It does not do that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "preceding_text": "ceived certain printed circulars which embody this particular principle. All I can say is that the gentleman who wrote me this letter either has not read the Bill or, if he has read it has failed to understand it. This Bill does not prevent young persons under the age of 18 from obtaining alcohol. All it does is to prevent a young person of the age of 1S from consuming alcohol in a public - house.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.959.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.959.0", "colnum": "959", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "preceding_text": "ke alcoholic liquor, if it was bought by somebody else. The hon. Member who seconded the Motion said, \"No, it was not,\" whereas, as a matter of fact, a young person can actually go into a public-house and buy liquor as long as he or she does not drink it on the premises. A young person can purchase as much alcoholic liquor as he or she has money to buy, and then drink it outside. That is the fact.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.959.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.959.0", "colnum": "959", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Look at the result!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "preceding_text": "r not. Let us consider whether there is any truth in the statement that if from the age of 14 and 18 a person drinks alcoholic liquor very serious results will follow. I am not quite certain as to the actual age, but I believe that from about 10 to 11 years of age I always had beer at my dinner, which I had in the middle of the day. When I was at Winchester we always had beer at dinner and supper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.959.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.963.5", "colnum": "963", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why should they not? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": " children. Those were some of the things which led to the greatness of England, and I am sorry that we do not at the present moment carry them all out. I fail to see why the teachers should interfere. The duty of the teachers in the elementary schools ceases when the children reach the age of 14, and it is no part of their duty to run after their charges in later life, and see that they are moral.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.963.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.966.1", "colnum": "966", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They go home in cabs at night.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "I will say that it does not exist.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.966.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.966.1", "colnum": "966", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "y owing to the introduction of coffee and cigarettes no doubt, nothing is drunk after dinner, and, probably, owing to the charm of the other sex, we generally go and join the ladies. I venture to say also&#8212;and here again I do not wish to offend the susceptibilities of hon. Gentlemen opposite&#8212;that the example which has been set by the upper classes is being followed by the other classes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.966.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.966.1", "colnum": "966", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We set the example,\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "er dinner, and, probably, owing to the charm of the other sex, we generally go and join the ladies. I venture to say also&#8212;and here again I do not wish to offend the susceptibilities of hon. Gentlemen opposite&#8212;that the example which has been set by the upper classes is being followed by the other classes. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] I am sorry hon. Members opposite do not agree with me there.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.966.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.968.1", "colnum": "968", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MORRISON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear. hear' \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MORRISON", "preceding_text": "this incident? While I was serving in the Army in France, being a school teacher, I took every opportunity I could when my division was back in reserve to chum up with the local French schoolmasters. There was one with whom I got particularly friendly. I used to meet him when he was coming back from school, and then we would adjourn to the local estaminet, and together have a glass of French beer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.968.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.971.3", "colnum": "971", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel ARCHER-SHEE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What bar?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel ARCHER-SHEE", "preceding_text": "There is no comparison between the statistics of crime in the two countries. Not only that, but crime in the United States has increased enormously since prohbition was brought in. In support of that statement, I can quote the report of the annual meeting of the American Bar Association.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.971.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.983.1", "colnum": "983", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": "I rise to a point of Order. I respectfully suggest that, a I represent a point of view otherwise un-represented in this House, I should have an opportunity of doing so in this Debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.983.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.986.1", "colnum": "986", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": " Bill said she hoped we should speak without pride, prejudice or partial affection. I hope I never speak with pride; I hope I shall be exonerated from any charge of speaking with prejudice&#8212;I certainly do not speak on behalf of any organisation of any kind&#8212;and as regards partial affection, if I had any in this matter, I am afraid I should be biassed in favour of the mover of the Motion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.986.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-09", "file": "debates1923-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "941db5bfcb460652", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.991.1", "colnum": "991", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. SIMON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It has not been proved!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. SIMON", "preceding_text": "hat the consumption of intoxicating liquor, at any rate, in the form of beer, is not bad for youth. Everyone is entitled to hold his own personal opinion, but the Home Secretary is wrong when he says that there is no evidence to the contrary. On the contrary, if you are going to pay any attention at all to really the skilled opinion of the medical profession, the opposite view is bound to prevail.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-09a.991.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1045.1", "colnum": "1045", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "preceding_text": "ht hon. Gentleman answers, I should like to ask if a reply is going to be given to my question. My question relates to a British subject, born in England, and if such are going to be deported without appeal to the ordinary Courts of Law? If this man has been guilty of any offence against the State, I am not here to defend him, but I am asking, are not the ordinary Courts in this country available?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1045.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1045.7", "colnum": "1045", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "preceding_text": "He is an English subject, and he has a right to appear before the Courts of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1045.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1046.2", "colnum": "1046", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "I want to make it perfectly clear&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1046.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1110.1", "colnum": "1110", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"By a Labour Government.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": "d a country which is rapidly developing as a great commercial nation. She has an increasing population, part of which is surplus, and she looks across the narrow straits which divide her from the American Continent and there she sees posted the words, \"No yellow man may enter.\" It is the same with many of the islands in the Pacific&#8212;with Australia eyen. Australia is closed to the yellow race.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1110.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1119.0", "colnum": "1119", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LEES-SMITH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LEES-SMITH", "preceding_text": "nd of l&#232;se-majest&#233; As the right hon. Gentleman has said, one of the consequences was that when the War broke out it was found that the staff of the Admiralty was grossly deficient. May I refer to one question which has been discussed this evening, and on which neither I nor many Members of the House can speak with naval or military authority, but upon which we- are justified in speaking.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1119.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1122.3", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LEES-SMITH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LEES-SMITH", "preceding_text": "ed capital ships obsolete and meaningless. On this point I shall show how difficult it is for us to make up our minds when we see great exponents of warfare on that very Front Bench opposite contradicting each other about the simplest point. The First Lord told us to-day that capital ships, in the opinion of the Naval Staff, still constitute the unchallenged mainstay and pivot of the naval battle.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1122.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1122.3", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LEES-SMITH", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He knows nothing about it\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LEES-SMITH", "preceding_text": "al Staff, still constitute the unchallenged mainstay and pivot of the naval battle. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"] Well, I am glad to hear those approving manifestations, because I find that another great exponent of warfare, who is on that Front Bench, the new Postmaster-General, has practically told us that he and about half a dozen like him could wipe out a capital ship practically single-handed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1122.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1122.3", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LEES-SMITH", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Whose is the letter?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LEES-SMITH", "preceding_text": " capital ship practically single-handed. [An HON. MEMBER: \"He knows nothing about it\"] Does he not? Then does the First Lord of the Admiralty know anything about it? I do not know how many years of naval service he put in to qualify for the position he now holds. While just on that point, may I read to the House the opinion of the right hon. Gentleman's colleague who wrote a letter to the \"Times\"?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1122.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1135.0", "colnum": "1135", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": "se of Commons, alluding to that, we cannot get away from the fact that the situation is grave and is one that we must face at the earliest possible moment. In every debate deal-Stag directly or indirectly with foreign affairs we are coming nearer and nearer to an admission of the fact that the relations between this country and France are becoming as the relations between this country and Germany.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1135.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1143.1", "colnum": "1143", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Sir G. COLLINS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not much!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir G. COLLINS", "preceding_text": " the coming year for which these Estimates are making provision prices will be lower. The bonus which is paid throughout the Service to civilians has fallen; the price of material has fallen, wages in the dockyards have fallen, and prices of food in the coming year are bound to be less than the prices were during the previous year. The price of living generally is much less than it was a year ago.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1143.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1158.1", "colnum": "1158", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The same case.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "ch were cited this afternoon, the one cited by the hon. Member for Silvertown (Mr. J. Jones) of a person who is a British subject, and who, as the hon. Member says, was not, as a matter of fact, in recent times involved in any political conspiracy against the Irish Free State, and the other case cited by my hon. Friend the Member for North Battersea (Mr. Saklatvala), the case of mistaken identity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1158.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1158.1", "colnum": "1158", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "r. J. Jones) of a person who is a British subject, and who, as the hon. Member says, was not, as a matter of fact, in recent times involved in any political conspiracy against the Irish Free State, and the other case cited by my hon. Friend the Member for North Battersea (Mr. Saklatvala), the case of mistaken identity. [HON. MEMBERS: \"The same case.\"] Is it the same case? Well, it does not matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1158.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1158.1", "colnum": "1158", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "eland as any other hon. Members? We believe in it quite as much, we back up that government quite as much, but that is not enough to justify deportation from this country upon such Regulations as those which my right hon. Friend has quoted. I therefore hope without any further delay, and in order to enable some hon. and right hon. Members who are more entitled to address the House than I am&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1158.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1160.0", "colnum": "1160", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "as that referred to by the hon. Member for North Battersea (Mr. Saklatvala) earlier in the day. Those who arrested this man were perfectly aware of the existence of another man of the same name, but there is no doubt whatever that the man who was arrested is the man whom the Free State Government asked us to arrest, and if they find when they have got him over there that he is the wrong man&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1160.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1161.1", "colnum": "1161", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Did they get the arms from Germany, like Carson did?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "er orders. The men had no money. I had to support them. I had to pay &#163;12 a week for lodgings alone, costing me in all &#163;120. You may contend I had no right to keep men in Dublin from June to August. I was expecting them to be taken out of my hands every week. They were handed from one Dublin officer to another until they were arrested, and are all now in prison. That is the 27th February.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1161.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1162.0", "colnum": "1162", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacNEILL WEIR", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacNEILL WEIR", "preceding_text": "Ever heard of Pigott?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1162.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1163.1", "colnum": "1163", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": " to send you some. I have quoted these letters in order to show that not only was there an active organisation going on here in this country to attack the Free State Government in Ireland, but that efforts were also being made to persuade people to engage in a campaign of destruction in this country. Anyone who had seen these letters would naturally feel that some attention should be paid to them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1163.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1163.3", "colnum": "1163", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Prosecute them!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "I am responsible. It is quite impossible, and would be impossible, for any sane Englishman in my position to remain passive with this information in his possession.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1163.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1163.6", "colnum": "1163", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes,\" and \"Quite right!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "nder Regulation 14n of the Restoration of Order in Ireland Regulations, and with the Free State Government it was decided to arrest and send over for internment there a number of persons who were known to them and to us. Every person whom they desired and was so sent over was of Irish origin, and was sent over at their request. It has been asked why were these persons not interned in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1163.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1163.6", "colnum": "1163", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Get ahead!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "ee State Government it was decided to arrest and send over for internment there a number of persons who were known to them and to us. Every person whom they desired and was so sent over was of Irish origin, and was sent over at their request. It has been asked why were these persons not interned in this country. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes,\" and \"Quite right!\"] If hon. Members will allow I will say&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1163.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1166.4", "colnum": "1166", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Rot!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "eel that this act is one of the most deadful things that has been done in the history of our country. I am satisfied that both those right hon. and learned Gentlemen must be, or at least would be in their private capacity, of precisely that opinion. I do not think some hon. Members opposite can have the faintest notion of what this Regulation means, or they would not laugh as they have been doing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1166.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1166.4", "colnum": "1166", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "e in their private capacity, of precisely that opinion. I do not think some hon. Members opposite can have the faintest notion of what this Regulation means, or they would not laugh as they have been doing. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Rot!\"] When an hon. Member on this side called out \"Rot!\" he behaved badly, but we expected good manners from the hon. Member opposite who has just made the same interruption.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1166.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1166.4", "colnum": "1166", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "aved badly, but we expected good manners from the hon. Member opposite who has just made the same interruption. [ Interruption. ] I have not the slightest intention of finishing my speech until I have said what I have got to say. I am going to endeavour in quite a few words to point out to hon. Members opposite what this Regulation means, because I am satisfied that they cannot know what it means.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1166.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1168.0", "colnum": "1168", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Foreign?\" and \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "r, they say they are not responsible for what the last Government did. To-day, they have sent over to Ireland for internment without trial, without limit of time without any knowledge of the punishment, without ally knowledge as to whether the right man has been arrested, a. British, subject. Apparently the only answer is that he is to be sent back if the foreign Government decide that they&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1168.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1168.0", "colnum": "1168", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "sent over to Ireland for internment without trial, without limit of time without any knowledge of the punishment, without ally knowledge as to whether the right man has been arrested, a. British, subject. Apparently the only answer is that he is to be sent back if the foreign Government decide that they&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Foreign?\" and \"Withdraw!\"]&#8212;I can remember in this very House&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1168.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1168.2", "colnum": "1168", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Dominion government.\" and \"Under the King\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "Does the hon. and learned Member for York think that interruption was either necessary or desirable? I should have thought it was apparent to anybody that the only materiality of such an observation was an independent Government. What does it mater&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1168.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1168.2", "colnum": "1168", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Under the King!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "Does the hon. and learned Member for York think that interruption was either necessary or desirable? I should have thought it was apparent to anybody that the only materiality of such an observation was an independent Government. What does it mater&#8212; [HON. MEMBERS: \"Dominion government.\" and \"Under the King\"] Surely, hon. Gentleman&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1168.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1169.1", "colnum": "1169", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\" and laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "to be taken off one's argument if there arc repeated interruptions. Unless one does turn a little bit towards another part of the House, one is always met by the observation that hon. Members cannot hear. I have expressed my regret that I have not addressed all my remarks to the Chair. May T point out to the House what is happening, because it may be there is something which we really do not know.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1169.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1171.0", "colnum": "1171", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Sir KINGSLEY WOOD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir KINGSLEY WOOD", "preceding_text": "th the present Irish settlement is that, so far as we can, we have now left that unhappy country to administer its own affairs&#8212;that we have stood on one side and have left the opposing sides to do the best they can in their own land. I venture to think, however, that this may be regarded in many respects as a direct intervention by the British Government once again in the affairs of Ireland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1171.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1187.0", "colnum": "1187", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1187.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1187.1", "colnum": "1187", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "ience, and I hope the House will forgive me for what I am going to say. I say it with quite definite feeling of the truth of what I am going to say in reference to the appointment of Mr. Justice Lawrence, as he was, now Lord Trevethin. I want this House to realise that this gentleman is 80 years of age. Two years ago I was before him, and I say it is monstrous to put him to try anybody at his age.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1187.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1191.1", "colnum": "1191", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\" and \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": ", which are&#8212;whether they be right or whether they be wrong&#8212;at least, as I hope all my statements in the House will be, my deliberate, sincere, and honest conviction. I hope the hon. and learned Member for Wallsend will apply to himself, at any rate, the principle which I have tried to adopt, of saying to the House what he really thinks, and not what he thinks it would pay him to think.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1191.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1198.1", "colnum": "1198", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"One!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "preceding_text": "Lord of the Admiralty, in his speech, exposed the futility of that supposition. But suppose we were to do away with the Navy, would that have any effect upon the United States, upon Japan, upon Italy, upon France? Would they follow suit? Would they have no Navy? Even the hon. Member for Motherwell (Mr. Newbold) told us that if his party&#8212;I do not know what the strength of that party is&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1198.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1198.1", "colnum": "1198", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nothing\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "preceding_text": "gainst the Naval Estimates. So it is absurd to suppose he is an innocent abroad, because he is nothing of the sort. He is now what he always was&#8212;an opponent of the Navy and anything to do with the Navy. Then we had the right hon. Gentleman the Member for South Molton (Mr. Lambert). Having been once a Civil Lord one would suppose he had some traditions to keep up. He told us what he would do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1198.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1198.1", "colnum": "1198", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "preceding_text": "statement of the First Lord that there would be no further reductions in the Navy. The Navy do not want sympathy of that kind. But we are always pleased to know the Liberal view. I would suggest to hon. Members opposite to get out a. leaflet explaining to Liberals at the next General Election what the views of the Liberal Party are as expressed by the hon. Member for South Molton, late Civil Lord.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1198.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1201.1", "colnum": "1201", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "preceding_text": "The Admiralty in this respect acted too quickly. Instead of acting on the assumption that the Treaty would be ratifed, we should have waited until ratification had taken place. What we are now doing is risking our security, and while I yield to no one in my desire for economy I am not prepared to take the risk.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1201.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1201.6", "colnum": "1201", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "preceding_text": "ar ships were sent to the Dardanelles and that they were very useful in serving the purpose for which they were sent there. Let me tell the House, that. in order to send those ships to the Dandanelles properly manned, we had to take almost every man and boy from the Naval Schools, and in the Royal Marine Barracks hardly;I man was left. That was the result of cutting down the personnel of the Navy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1201.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-12", "file": "debates1923-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "d4afc632c98ab898", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1217.0", "colnum": "1217", "heading": "IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. M. WATSON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They came with the greatest pleasure.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. M. WATSON", "preceding_text": "ard is concerned. It has been penalised to a greater extent than any dockyard in this country in the way of dismissals. The unfortunate thing, so far as Rosyth is concerned, is that the great bulk of men there are men who have been enticed from the southern dockyards. They had to get special privileges to entice them to face the climate of Scotland&#8212;inhospitable compared with that of England.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-12a.1217.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1366.0", "colnum": "1366", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OCCUPATION OF RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. THORNTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. THORNTON", "preceding_text": "ness to us of postponing this matter of our reparations. I remember that when the right hon. Gentleman the ex-Prime Minister was speaking on the joint Amendment to the Address, he told us that a solicitor, before he issued execution, had to consider very carefully whether it was worth while to issue execution. I, for a time, belonged to the worst-paid profession in the world&#8212;that of the law.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1366.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0", "colnum": "1390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OCCUPATION OF RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear !\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman who has just spoken complained twice that the view of the Government had not been placed before the House earlier in the afternoon.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0", "colnum": "1390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OCCUPATION OF RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear !\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "preceding_text": "rned that the&#8212;I will not say invective&#8212;the very strong attack of the right hon. Gentleman was not against a Government to which he was opposed, but against the French Government with which we are in alliance. That was the tone not only of the right hon. Gentleman hut of a great many of those who have spoken. I should like to protest against our giving ourselves any airs of superiority.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0", "colnum": "1390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OCCUPATION OF RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "preceding_text": "to occupy the Ruhr with a military force, as a sanction for a default of the Treaty, is a thing wrong in itself, because we prepared to do it. Only two years ago the late Prime Minister informed the House that he had that morning given notice to the German Government that if they did not comply within a week with the demands he was then making, we should join with the French in occupying the Ruhr.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0", "colnum": "1390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OCCUPATION OF RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Bluff !\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "preceding_text": "r a default of the Treaty, is a thing wrong in itself, because we prepared to do it. Only two years ago the late Prime Minister informed the House that he had that morning given notice to the German Government that if they did not comply within a week with the demands he was then making, we should join with the French in occupying the Ruhr. [ Interruption. ] Anyone can look at the OFFICIAL REPORT.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0", "colnum": "1390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OCCUPATION OF RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He said so!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RONALD McNEILL", "preceding_text": "te Prime Minister informed the House that he had that morning given notice to the German Government that if they did not comply within a week with the demands he was then making, we should join with the French in occupying the Ruhr. [ Interruption. ] Anyone can look at the OFFICIAL REPORT. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Bluff !\"] I will not do the right hon. Gentleman the injustice of saying it was really bluff.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1390.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1405.5", "colnum": "1405", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. C. DAVIES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And support!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. C. DAVIES", "preceding_text": "tic and stirring incidents in Welsh history. Welshmen cannot help admiring the solicitous care with which places of historic interest are watched over by Englishmen. Many hon. Members no doubt noticed some weeks ago in the \"Manchester Guardian\" correspondence in reference to the proposed construction of a motor road over a portion of the Lakeland. The very suggestion aroused keen opposition&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1405.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1424.0", "colnum": "1424", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "ghout the whole of Wales. His memory is a sacred memory. He has written some of the most exquisite lyrics in many languages, full of music and of song. Hon. Members may smile, but I can assure them that his name produces a thrill among hundreds of thousands of Welshmen, not merely in Wales, but wherever there are Welshmen who speak our tongue in any part, of the globe. His home is to be submerged.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1424.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1424.0", "colnum": "1424", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Cheapness !\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "but they are able to manage without that; Warrington cannot. Why not? There are plenty of desolate moorlands in Lancashire, in Yorkshire, even in Cheshire, even in Wales. I know something about the moorlands of Wales. There are plenty of desolate moorlands in Wales which could be the gathering ground for water for Warrington or any other town. Why should they pick out this exquisite little valley?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1424.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1424.0", "colnum": "1424", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Fifteen years !\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "y. Therefore, I entreat the House of Commons before they do this, before they outrage the sentiments of the whole of our population in Wales, a perfectly loyal population, that they should, at any rate, see whether it is not possible to reconsider the whole of this question of water supply. If Warrington had to find its supply within the next two or three years or four years I could understand it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1424.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1428.0", "colnum": "1428", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir HAROLD SMITH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, it has! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir HAROLD SMITH", "preceding_text": "hon. Member for Carnarvon Boroughs (Mr. Lloyd George) would raise his eloquent and poetic voice in opposition to this Bill. We fully appreciate, indeed we respect, the opposition of the Welsh Members. While we respect I hope I may say without any offence that, although I think this agitation must necessarily appeal to the Welsh sentiments, the practical side has never been put to the Welsh people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1428.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1430.4", "colnum": "1430", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. SMITH", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. SMITH", "preceding_text": "results in submerging houses and chapels, but they, again, will be rebuilt. I have not had au opportunity of visiting the valley, but I know North Wales a little. I have spent some 30 odd years of my life close to the very nightbourhood we are discussing. From what I know of these chapels in the little country districts in Wales they are not very well equipped for the religious work they carry on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1430.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1440.4", "colnum": "1440", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. WALSH", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"At a profit!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. WALSH", "preceding_text": "f the largest industrial populations in the country. Water is one of the essentials of life. Is it, therefore, not right that progressive municipalities should look ahead to make sure of the provision of that which is so necessary to life. I can assure the Welsh Members in this House and the people of Wales that the promoters are prepared to give the fullest measure of water within the water zone.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1440.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1461.5", "colnum": "1461", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAR PENSIONS ACTS.", "cue_speaker": "Major TRYON", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"That is the pensioner's last chance of justice.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major TRYON", "preceding_text": " pensions and allowances of various kinds. If hon. Members wish in any way to help the Ministry, and I am sure they do, they cannot do more to help us and to help themselves than by getting the idea into the minds of the pensioners that the right and proper course is to go to the local area office and to enlist the help of the voluntary workers, rather than write to the local Member of Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1461.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1466.0", "colnum": "1466", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAR PENSIONS ACTS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "t should be along the lines of restoring to the Committees powers they formerly possessed. I do not understand a Minister being so ignorant of the work of his Department. The Minister laughs; if he comes to the East End of London I will give him proof of what I am saying. Hon. and right Hon. Members opposite are continually saying this is not a party question. We have not made it a party question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1466.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1472.4", "colnum": "1472", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAR PENSIONS ACTS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "Then let us give up the cant that we are going to give pensions to ex-service men. Let us give up the cant and humbug that we care for the ex-service man.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1472.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1479.0", "colnum": "1479", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAR PENSIONS ACTS.", "cue_speaker": "The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the MINISTRY of PENSIONS (Captain Charles Craig)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is that\"?", "preceding_speaker": "The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the MINISTRY of PENSIONS (Captain Charles Craig)", "preceding_text": "not pay too much attention. The next point that that hon. Member made was that the meetings of these Pensions Committees were controlled by the Minister of Pensions. That is true to some extent, but the object that was kept in mind was clearly stated by my right hon. and gallant Friend when he pointed out that in some places the cost of a single meeting of these committees is as much as &#163;200.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1479.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1481.4", "colnum": "1481", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAR PENSIONS ACTS.", "cue_speaker": "Captain CRAIG", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Sometimes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain CRAIG", "preceding_text": " these cases facts and allegations which it would not be for the benefit of the pensioner or anybody else that they should come to light, and the balance of justice is all in favour of these cases being heard in private. The next objection taken was that the Committees were not allowed free access to files and papers. Everybody knows that files and documents in Government offices are confidential.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1481.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1498.0", "colnum": "1498", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAR PENSIONS ACTS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARBORD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARBORD", "preceding_text": "uite foreign to what was promised them during the War when every one said that their service and sufferings would be recognised. Unfortunately every one of us, irrespective of party, can say from personal knowledge that much injustice has been done to many deserving cases. I regret more than anything that during the Debate to-night there was a lack of sympathy on the part of the Pensions Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1498.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-13", "file": "debates1923-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "2eac9df311168ea8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1511.7", "colnum": "1511", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAR PENSIONS ACTS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": "to time. How much more difficult must it be for the ex-service man who prior to the War was in very humble circumstances, perhaps, with very little education and who consequently was unable to understand Regulations. There&#8212; fore I do appeal most sincerely, because I do not think we ought to make party capital out of a thing of this sort, for the consideration which we are entitled to expect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-13a.1511.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1549.6", "colnum": "1549", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, Sir.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": "Obviously I cannot accept the assumption that this act was illegal on the part of the Government. It was agreed by all sections of the House in the Debate on the question that it was perfectly legal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1549.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1551.2", "colnum": "1551", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "I am not quite certain about the right, but my impression is this, that they will make their representations, if they wish to do so, to the Advisory Committee, and it will then rest with the Advisory Committee as to whether they think that these persons should be brought over here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1551.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1694.5", "colnum": "1694", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCIDENTS IN MINES.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And pretty well watered!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "preceding_text": "y every means within our power, consistent with the least danger possible, in order that we may get what little of the surplus&#8212;if there is any that is left to us. I cannot discuss this subject in the present Debate. On broad humanitarian grounds, however, the Members opposite must not suppose they possess the whole of the milk of human kindness. There is some of it left on this side as well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1694.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1694.5", "colnum": "1694", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCIDENTS IN MINES.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Is that for deaths or accidents? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "preceding_text": "rs is something like 230 per thousand of men over 75 years. The statement has also been made that mining is the most hazardous industry in the country. I have the official figures for accidents with me, which show that for seamen the percentage is 4.05 for 3,200 hours' work per annum. The miners 1.56 for 2,300 hours per annum. That is over a period of five years. For railwaymen the figure is 0.59.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1694.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1714.9", "colnum": "1714", "heading": "AIR ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "or cadet fees as against &#163;5,000 last year. Does that mean that only people who can afford the fees are entitled to enter or are we to understand that boys, in every other way fitted to be air officers, are not debarred by the poverty of their parents from embarking on this career? We are supposed to be living in a democrafic age and wealth should be no advantage where ability is non-existent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1714.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1714.9", "colnum": "1714", "heading": "AIR ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "o hon. Members oppo- site, and I trust if a satisfactory reply is not forthcoming, they will support me in what is, I hope, a praiseworthy effort to democratise the Air Service. It is very necesary the Air Service should not be officered by only one class, and that the wealthy class, in view of the temptation to use the Air Force against the civil population in times of trouble or commotion&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1714.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1714.9", "colnum": "1714", "heading": "AIR ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "ar about, and I take this opportunity of referring to a subject which has happily been referred to before in this House, and that is the use of the Air Force against native villages in tribal warfare, particularly on the North West frontier of India. I do not suggest that in tribal warfare the Air Force should not be used to the fullest extent possible compatible with civilized notions of warfare.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1714.9"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1723.0", "colnum": "1723", "heading": "AIR ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "They may lose the lot.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "y. Why should the Government hand over that which is essential to the prosperity of the country to a private exploiting company, which will get, ex hypothesi , &#163;50,000 a year as a picking out of it? [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] Surely they are to get 10 per cent. on the &#163;500,000 they put in. That is, &#163;50,000 per annum, which they will get&#8212;an additional tariff on our aerial transport.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1722.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-14", "file": "debates1923-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "ba9ed3070ed121fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1729.1", "colnum": "1729", "heading": "AIR ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir S. HOARE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not take it over?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir S. HOARE", "preceding_text": "f war supplies we now have to give new orders. Lastly, there was the speech of the hon. Member for Stirling and Clackmannan (Mr. T. Johnston). He made a very determined attack upon the system of subsidies. As I told the House, I dislike subsidies too, but with civil aviation as it is now, I cannot myself see how it can be kept alive, unless subsidies are given, at any rate for some further period.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-14a.1729.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-15", "file": "debates1923-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "c2cca65feef8a4b8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-15a.1764.0", "colnum": "1764", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SEXTON", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SEXTON", "preceding_text": "rose &#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-15a.1764.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-15", "file": "debates1923-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "c2cca65feef8a4b8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-15a.1769.0", "colnum": "1769", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"Which one!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "I only made the orders for the arrest and internment of these ladies on being satisfied that there were good reasons for so doing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-15a.1769.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-15", "file": "debates1923-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "c2cca65feef8a4b8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-15a.1840.0", "colnum": "1840", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "ductions when they become possible. That immediately brings us to the enormous cost of the Army Services. The reduction has been &#163;10,000,000 since last year, but it is still &#163;52,000,000 against &#163;28,000,000 before the War, and that increase is one that must not be put down entirely to the increase in the cost of living, because we have not the same article that we had before the War.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-15a.1840.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-15", "file": "debates1923-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "c2cca65feef8a4b8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-15a.1905.2", "colnum": "1905", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": " would draw the attention of the Committee to the bottom portion of Page 43, which throws rather a sidelight upon the manner in which boys get into Sandhurst. The first item is \"King's Cadets.\" They get in for nothing, and I pass that by without any comment at all. The next class of boy who gets in is the sons of \"Deceased officers and men whose families are in pecuniary distress.\" I pass that by.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-15a.1905.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.1981.1", "colnum": "1981", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "st year by way of Schedule. I said I thought that that was a perfectly proper thing, and we did desire as a consumers' movement in co-operative circles, to do all that we could to see that the selective right of consumers was maintained, so that they might know what they were getting when they went to buy any particular food commodity. That is entirely different from what is proposed in this Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.1981.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.1981.1", "colnum": "1981", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "ree will see what I mean. I do not deny that there is a plausible case in this Bill on the ground that it will afford that selective right to consumers, but I do wish to point out that, instead of this being on the lines of the protection which has been afforded in the past through the medium of the Sale of Food Orders, it is in fact a Bill which will prohibit imports unless these things are done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.1981.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.1981.1", "colnum": "1981", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Against fraud!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "st egg producers in Denmark. They have gone in for the scientific grading as well as marking of eggs, and the stamping of their eggs gives them a place in the, top of the market. They want, therefore, to get protection in the British market, in which they have obtained such a strong footing. That is the real reason for the communication sent to the right hon. Gentleman. They want protection&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.1981.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.1991.0", "colnum": "1991", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HOGGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HOGGE", "preceding_text": "s were labelled each with the place of its origin. It would be an easy and pleasant way of imparting to the child a long and wide view of the geography of this country. We come back to the argument that all this means the raising of the price of these products to the consumer. As I said, the only reason why one could support the Bill is because it is a good joke. German marks are falling in value.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.1991.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2000.0", "colnum": "2000", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major STEEL", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Have you tried it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major STEEL", "preceding_text": " shows that a man can mark 1,440 eggs in an hour. An hon. Member asked how many that is a second. As a matter of fact, I do not think it is a very remarkable feat to unpack, mark and repack 1,440 eggs in the course of an hour. It only comes to 24 a minute, and I do not think it would require a very skilled man to take 24 eggs out of one box, stamp them, and put them back in the course of a minute.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2000.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2017.0", "colnum": "2017", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The producers!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "preceding_text": "f our foodstuffs are imported from other countries, and in return, as for instance in the case of China, we send cotton goods and other things. We have to take these matters into consideration. I do not think that this Measure has been introduced in the interests of the consumers. I do not think it has been introduced in the interests of the farm workers. In whose interests has it been introduced?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2017.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2023.1", "colnum": "2023", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Russian eggs!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "abourers, and no others, and the trader will be taxed out of existence or harried out of his livelihood. I am sure that he believes that that would be for the good of the country. I object to this Bill very much, speaking on behalf of the constituency I have the honour to represent. Hull is a great port, and probably, after London, the greatest port in England for the importation of fresh produce.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2023.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2023.1", "colnum": "2023", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rotten eggs!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "ry much, speaking on behalf of the constituency I have the honour to represent. Hull is a great port, and probably, after London, the greatest port in England for the importation of fresh produce. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Russian eggs!\"] Hon. Members talk about Russian eggs. I suppose we shall be told that we get Bolsheviks out of Russian eggs. That would be just as good a story as the story of the lizard.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2023.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2026.1", "colnum": "2026", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "They are in bulk, but not as regards each packet. When they are brought on board ship each separate packet is not labelled.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2026.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2026.1", "colnum": "2026", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": " affected, and that is the confectionery trade. Again, may I beg hon. Members opposite to remember that the person who buys eggs for the breakfast table is not the only purchaser. Those engaged in the confectionery trade are very huge purchasers. They rely a great deal upon eggs which are sent here for the ordinary markets and which are left over after a certain period&#8212;still perfectly sound.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2026.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2028.4", "colnum": "2028", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "&#8212;I quite agree. This is an interfering, trumpery, ridiculous Measure. It will irritate and annoy an immense number of people. I have listened to many very able speeches in support of the Bill, but I have not heard any proof that this is going to help the growers of agricultural produce in this country. It is admitted&#8212;tacitly, at any rate&#8212;that prices are going to be put up &#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2028.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2032.0", "colnum": "2032", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not six months!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "h a favourable eye upon this Bill, but intend to give it active support as representing part of the agricultural policy of this Government. We have travelled a long way since 1919. when there was a great agricultural policy to re-create the rural life of England. That was one of the lessons of the War. We were to have guaranteed prices for corn, which were to last four years, and did not last two.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2032.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2035.1", "colnum": "2035", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They are inspected now!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "All this sort of thing tends to disarrange trade with foreign countries in such imported fruit, and it is intended to do so. The point is that the inspection is going to affect the quality of the goods as they come in. [ Dissent .] Anyone who knows anything at all about inspection knows that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2035.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2036.1", "colnum": "2036", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": " 2d. or 2&#189;d, for an egg? I say that, so far as the poorer classes of this country are concerned, they are interested solely in these cheap foreign eggs. They never think of asking for an English egg; all they are concerned about is getting an egg which they can eat. Sometimes they cannot get it. My point is this: Under this Bill, you are going to limit the supply of these eggs for the future.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2036.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2036.1", "colnum": "2036", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Very slight.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "of happy omen&#8212;is engaged in this poultry farming industry, and he has given the expert view how poultry farming can be made to pay. It is not by these artificial methods. It is by improving your marketing as they have done in Denmark. Forty-seven per cent. of the eggs that come into this country come from Denmark. Why should they come from Denmark? There is no depreciated exchange, is there?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2036.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2040.0", "colnum": "2040", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The MINISTER of AGRICULTURE (Sir Robert Sanders)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The MINISTER of AGRICULTURE (Sir Robert Sanders)", "preceding_text": " that case professes to be. The whole opposition to the Bill professes to be on behalf of the consumers. It is the consumers whom we want to help by the Bill. The consumer may want to eat Chinese eggs. Then let him have them, and let him know they are Chinese eggs, and let him be able to tell they are Chinese before he breaks the shell. Almost all the opposition has centred on the subject of eggs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2040.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2042.1", "colnum": "2042", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Bents are too high!\"and\" The valuation of the land is too high!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "preceding_text": "of the wheat industry. And it is distinctively an industry of the smallholder. It is also distinctively the industry of the woman. It is also the industry of those ex-service men whom we have settled on the land. We have incurred considerable obligations towards those men. We have given them this occupation out of which to make a living, and a great many of them find that it is a very poor living.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2043.0", "colnum": "2043", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Easter eggs!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": " in a constituency like that which I represent, cannot afford eggs? We get our eggs in egg powder&#8212;Bird's custard powder. God knows where they come from. Is their nationality to be examined? Are we to have an advisory committee to discover where they came from? Our eggs are artificial eggs made in factories. Who are to get the benefit of this Bill? English eggs&#8212;red, white and blue eggs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2043.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2043.0", "colnum": "2043", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": " their nationality to be examined? Are we to have an advisory committee to discover where they came from? Our eggs are artificial eggs made in factories. Who are to get the benefit of this Bill? English eggs&#8212;red, white and blue eggs. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Easter eggs!\"] They will be Easter eggs by the time we get them. They will have the Union Jack flying over them when we place them on the table.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2043.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2043.0", "colnum": "2043", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": "ial eggs made in factories. Who are to get the benefit of this Bill? English eggs&#8212;red, white and blue eggs. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Easter eggs!\"] They will be Easter eggs by the time we get them. They will have the Union Jack flying over them when we place them on the table. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"] Then our patriotic friends on the other side of the House will ask: \"Are they from Australia? \"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2043.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2043.0", "colnum": "2043", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They are stamped!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": " are trying to create barriers around an egg, and trying to pretend that there is one egg that is a true-bluer and another that is down and out. Yet we send our commercial travellers to Denmark and ask the Danes to buy dairy machinery&#8212;ask them to use the things that we produce to enable them to produce the eggs which they send to us. They could easily ask that our machines should be stamped.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2043.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-16", "file": "debates1923-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "5bd6c2e835276da3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2044.1", "colnum": "2044", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MERCHANDISE MARKS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": "You have been stamped on by many a hen.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-16a.2044.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2083.8", "colnum": "2083", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; RUSSIA.", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Order, order!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. H. SPENCER", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that Socialism has completely broken down in Russia&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2083.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2091.3", "colnum": "2091", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSE OF COMMONS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "as been represented to me is: that frequently Members find vacancies in the Ladies' Gallery, say, at 7 o'clock, and they take ladies up there. So that would be very inconvenient for them to have to remove at 8.15. What I suggest is that hon. Members should think over the proposal, and I will ask for a further question to be put to me on Thursday. Then, perhaps, I can gather the sense of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2091.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2098.2", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wait and see!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "I want to know what would happen supposing that these men were, say, shot in gaol in Ireland in a fit of passion? What would be the position of the British Government who have deported them?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2098.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2098.2", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "I want to know what would happen supposing that these men were, say, shot in gaol in Ireland in a fit of passion? What would be the position of the British Government who have deported them? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Wait and see!\"] I submit that that is an important point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2098.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2102.10", "colnum": "2102", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "is whether or not there is a precedent for somebody to be moved from this country without due process of law. Again, the answer is \"No,\" and it is not without due process of law that these people were moved if such an event took place. It is only because, as I understand the law, that one means of bringing a person resident in England to Ireland for trial for an offence committed in Ireland&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2102.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2102.10", "colnum": "2102", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They have been.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "No,\" and it is not without due process of law that these people were moved if such an event took place. It is only because, as I understand the law, that one means of bringing a person resident in England to Ireland for trial for an offence committed in Ireland&#8212;[ Interruption .] If the offence be committed in England and triable in England, obviously they would not be moved to Ireland&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2102.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2105.0", "colnum": "2105", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "( by Private Notice ) asked the Home Secretary if he will inform the House in what districts the prison or internment camps are situated to which British citizens and citizens of the Irish Free State have been deported; whether he is aware that many persons have been shot during imprisonment in Mountjoy Prison, and that many windows in this building have been destroyed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2105.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2105.2", "colnum": "2105", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "Is it not a fact well known to everyone here that many persons&#8212;not one or two&#8212;have been shot, not in the ordinary way, judicially?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2105.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2105.4", "colnum": "2105", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRISH FREE STATE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "It is not a question of the Irish Free State Government order- ing the execution, but of men being shot in those prisons merely by accident.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2105.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2178.0", "colnum": "2178", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GEORGE BALFOUR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No! Nonsense!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GEORGE BALFOUR", "preceding_text": "and instanced again that if, in a large number of industries throughout the country, six men were out on strike, and hundreds upon hundreds followed at their heels, they would not be eligible for benefit because their unemployment was due to the strike. Has the hon. Member thought how easy it would be to bring out a very large number of people by selecting the necessary sixes all over the country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2178.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2230.2", "colnum": "2230", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEPORTATIONS TO IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. STEWART", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS; \"They were not lifted out of this country.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. STEWART", "preceding_text": "eadful thing to be deported to Ireland, especially for people with Irish blood in them who believe England is the last country in the world to live in. I should also like to ask hon. Members opposite, who are so keen about these relatively few people under discussion, how is it we never heard a' word from them when about four or five hundred people were interned in Ulster by the Ulster Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2230.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2235.1", "colnum": "2235", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEPORTATIONS TO IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about Wilson 1\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "preceding_text": " there. I am glad to find that anxiety among the members of the Government. I appreciate it. It touches me. The interesting point about it is that if the British Government cannot be sure of the personal safety of a Member of Parliament, who presumably is friendly to the Free State, how can it be so terribly certain of the safety of the internees of the Free State who have been carried over there?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2235.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2238.1", "colnum": "2238", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEPORTATIONS TO IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We will remember this when our turn comes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "preceding_text": "e Irish Sea and visit him in Mountjoy Gaol? How is he to be able to make provision for them? I am appealing to the Home Secretary. I am not raising the Constitutional question at all. Presumably, it can be justified, that whenever a Government feels a need for it all the old-established precedents and customs of the nation may be set aside. That seems to be the attitude of the Government in power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2238.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2240.0", "colnum": "2240", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEPORTATIONS TO IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Sir LAMING WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir LAMING WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "preceding_text": "e State, if by any means we can prevent them. That is the motive. Does any hon. Member quarrel with the motive that has governed the Home Secretary? Consider what is his position. If we have a responsibility, he has a still greater responsibility, because it is this House which has given him a power which hon. Members say is illegal. The complaint is that these men have been deported without trial", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2240.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2242.1", "colnum": "2242", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEPORTATIONS TO IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is the only point!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "preceding_text": "rget that the Home Secretary had the responsibility of the powers which we have placed in his hands. It is for us to consider, on some suitable opportunity, whether those powers are powers which ought to be invested in any executive Government. Let me take the last point. Have we or have we not lost control of these deportees? I confess that there I think the Opposition is on much stronger ground.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2242.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2243.1", "colnum": "2243", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEPORTATIONS TO IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBEHS: \"Only to-night?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "preceding_text": "t you are prepared to accept the undertaking of the Free State. You have either to repudiate the Free State's undertaking or not. Some of my Friends on this side would be quite willing to repudiate it, but it seems strange that repudiation should come from the other side of the House. It is very strange that it should come from that side of the House. I am going to support the Government to-night.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2243.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-19", "file": "debates1923-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "defce3f791987c9c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2243.1", "colnum": "2243", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEPORTATIONS TO IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "preceding_text": " is very strange that it should come from that side of the House. I am going to support the Government to-night. [HON. MEMBEHS: \"Only to-night?\"] Well, I give no pledges beyond that. I am going to support the Government to-night for this reason, that we have put the Home Secretary in a position of very special responsibility. We have cast upon him a most unpleasant duty and a very dangerous power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-19a.2243.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2459.1", "colnum": "2459", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where did you get them from?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "responsibility of publishing them in what was then the \"Weekly Herald,\" I expected the next morning after the publication to be hauled off to prison for so doing. I was, however, strengthened in what I did by the fact that the editor of the \"Manchester Guardian\"&#8212;supposed to be a much more respectable paper than I was editing&#8212;in a public-spirited manner took the risk of publishing them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2459.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2459.1", "colnum": "2459", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "e lot of other private documents, and I think the whole world owns a debt of gratitude to the Bolshevist Government for publishing those secret treaties, because we now know that the War was not waged on behalf of little Belgium, but was waged for the purpose of carving up the East. No one who has read these secret documents can get away from that. That, however, is not what I got up to say&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2459.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2472.5", "colnum": "2472", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": " to one of the most serious items. Every employer on that side of the House will agree that between the best and the least efficient workman, doing the same kind of work, using the same tools or machinery, there will be a difference in the output of at least 30 per cent. How do you explain that? Only by the physical and the mental condition, and the inefficient man is the victim of bad conditions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2472.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2478.1", "colnum": "2478", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": "to impress this fact upon the House, that we are not living to-day under a capitalist system which is wholly free and unrestrained. We had an unrestrained and free capitalist system in the early part of the 19th century with this result, that little children of from five to six years of age were set to work in factories, and tubs of water were kept handy in which to dip them when they fell asleep.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2478.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2478.1", "colnum": "2478", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is your remedy?\" and Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": "lt? The opportunities for private enterprise and private interests are passing away; they are being narrowed down by the creation of trusts. Competition contains within itself the germs of its own destruction. The creation of trusts shows the admitted failure of the capitalist system as we have known capitalism in the past. I have no time to deal at length with the evil and menace of these things.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2478.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2480.1", "colnum": "2480", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense!\" and \"Yes!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": "t, I think, be very far short of a &#163;1,000,000,000. There is hardly an enterprise in which Government or municipalities are not engaged. I know that conditions have been abnormal during the last eight years, but take the facts as they were before the outbreak of war. Municipal enterprise stood head and shoulders everywhere above private companies and private enterprise engaged in similar work.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2480.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2485.0", "colnum": "2485", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"India!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "ownership of capital to which I should like briefly to draw the attention of the House. As long as the nation has no control over private investments of capital we shall have the spectacle of finance capital being exported from these shores abroad. Last year, according to the figures in the \"Statist,\" there were exported from this country &#163;147,000,000 of British capital for investment abroad.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2485.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2485.0", "colnum": "2485", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "mic system. We want the whole land of the country to be used economically, not to be kept for the delectation of exceptionally rich persons. There were, at the time of the last Census, 600,000 adult males who could not give themselves an occupation, but declared that they were idlers and lived without working at all. Everyone \"&#8212; says the \"Statist \"&#8212; should be compelled to work,\"&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2485.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2490.0", "colnum": "2490", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir ALFRED MOND", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir ALFRED MOND", "preceding_text": "produce that equality of ability, that equality of efficiency, and that equality of physical and mental standard which he presupposes, and for the failure of which he attacks, not the capitalist system, but the industrial system? The hon. Member, much to my astonishment, dates the capitalist system about 100 years ago. The capitalist system has been the system of the world since the world existed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2490.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2492.2", "colnum": "2492", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "rtain security and anxiety of industrial work. But I should be extraordinarily sorry for the rest of the community who, for the services of men who understand industry, who have devoted their lives to it, and have an interest in it, are going to be left to a number of civil servants or theorists like the hon. Member for Stirling (Mr. T. Johnston), who seconded the Motion, to manage their business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2492.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2492.2", "colnum": "2492", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Do not apologise!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "ve would be taken away, and a bureaucratic, soulless machine would be substituted for the freedom of the people of the country. You may indict the capitalist system, but we are entitled to indict and challenge the remedy you have proposed. You are entitled to point out that the world is very imperfect. Some people are beautiful, and some are not. Some people are clever, and some people are stupid.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2492.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2492.2", "colnum": "2492", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": " clever people to the level of the stupid. The whole theory of capitalism, as expounded by some hon. Members, is entirely out-of-date. It does not exist in our modern industrial system. What exists in our modern industrial system is the captain of industry, the man of enterprise and brains. He hires labour and he hires capital. He pays for one, and he pays for the other. He is the man who creates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2492.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2494.1", "colnum": "2494", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "lves; they created works where thousands of people have been employed. One of the difficulties which I feel with regard to socialism is that I do not see how you can make any progress. Hon. Members always seem to assume that the condition of industry is static. It is not; it is dynamic. They talk of the division of the wealth of the world as if it were a fixed amount, which wants to be divided up.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2494.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2499.1", "colnum": "2499", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the co-operative societies?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A MOND", "preceding_text": " Members say the coalmining industry is badly organised, possibly it is, but where have you the men who can organise it better? It is not the gentlemen who write articles in the \"Statist\" or any other newspaper. People who have never managed any enterprise themselves are the most facile critics of other people. It is easy to sit down, and write down on a piece of paper and be colossally efficient.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2499.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2501.3", "colnum": "2501", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "re is another point which I think is admitted by all Socialist writers. Socialism implies two necessary corollaries. One is that every consumer must consume a State-made article whether he likes it or not, because there will be nothing else to be got. Hon. Members will have to take a State-produced newspaper, because it is the only one that will be available. There will be no freedom of the Press.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2501.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2501.3", "colnum": "2501", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "o be got. Hon. Members will have to take a State-produced newspaper, because it is the only one that will be available. There will be no freedom of the Press. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"] Of course, if freedom of the Press means nothing to hon. Members on the Labour benches, I have nothing more to say. Again, hon. Members' wives will have to take the State pattern, and dress after the State fashion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2501.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2501.3", "colnum": "2501", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the matches?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "ut it to the Socialist Members if the State can produce all commodities, obviously it will produce all the dresses in the country. You cannot get away from that, and we shall have to dress as the State tailor or as the State dressmaker directs. There will be no competition. Hon. Members perhaps may not be aware that in France tobacco is a State monopoly, and it is worse than you get anywhere else.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2501.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2502.3", "colnum": "2502", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They are worse to-day.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "ot agree with his economic theories any more than I did 30 years ago. I do not think that they would carry out what he wishes; but he has certainly helped to quicken our human conscience. The hon. Member takes a gloomy view of the world, but let him look back a century, and ask himself what are the conditions under which people live to-day, and what were the conditions under which they lived then.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2502.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2502.3", "colnum": "2502", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There was no need for it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "orld, but let him look back a century, and ask himself what are the conditions under which people live to-day, and what were the conditions under which they lived then. [An HON. MEMBER: \"They are worse to-day.\"] No, they are not. Look at what has been done even during the last 20 years. Was there a hundred years ago a single sanatorium in this country for persons suffering from tubercular disease?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2502.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2503.1", "colnum": "2503", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "liberties so hardly won to a tyranny no better than any tyranny we have passed through in the past. Show us, at any rate, that happiness will be greater. I say you cannot do it. I say it cannot be done, and I invite you to abandon an illusion that is stopping fruitful progress. This discussion has now been proceeding for 50 years. Wherever this policy has been adopted, it has been abandoned again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2503.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2503.1", "colnum": "2503", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": " rate, that happiness will be greater. I say you cannot do it. I say it cannot be done, and I invite you to abandon an illusion that is stopping fruitful progress. This discussion has now been proceeding for 50 years. Wherever this policy has been adopted, it has been abandoned again. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"] After the French Revolution, you had socialism. In China you had socialism for 150 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2503.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3", "colnum": "2505", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name them!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "I know of my own knowledge in my own constituency and other constituencies around.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3", "colnum": "2505", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "I know of my own knowledge in my own constituency and other constituencies around. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Name them!\"] I will take my own constituency and others around me. The hon. Member knows the constituencies around mine as well as I do. I have said the Labour party had no right to be called a Labour party. They were a Socialist party. That was always repudiated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3", "colnum": "2505", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "r constituencies around. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Name them!\"] I will take my own constituency and others around me. The hon. Member knows the constituencies around mine as well as I do. I have said the Labour party had no right to be called a Labour party. They were a Socialist party. That was always repudiated. [ Interruption. ] The hon. Member at the next Election can call himself a Socialist candidate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3", "colnum": "2505", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We are the Labour party. It is the same thing!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "nstituencies around mine as well as I do. I have said the Labour party had no right to be called a Labour party. They were a Socialist party. That was always repudiated. [ Interruption. ] The hon. Member at the next Election can call himself a Socialist candidate. [ Interruption. ] I am stating what is common knowledge. Hon. Members are not called a Socialist party. They are called a Labour party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3", "colnum": "2505", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We are not afraid of it!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "l, and so do other hon. Members, or they would not get so excited. I am extremely glad the mask is off at last. It is a clean issue between Individualism and Socialism, a clean issue of private ownership against national ownership, a clean issue as to the right of the individual to the reward of his labour and his enterprise. I understand now there is no doubt that this Motion will go to division.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3", "colnum": "2505", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": " capital, co-operation and partnership between those who produce, and not between people who do not care, and who do not know anything about industry, to support my Amendment. That is the programme to which I invite their support. I hope that, when the division comes, there will be even some hon. Members on the benches above the Gangway on this side of the House who will reconsider their position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2505.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2506.0", "colnum": "2506", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "The PRESIDENT of the BOARD of TRADE (Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The PRESIDENT of the BOARD of TRADE (Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame)", "preceding_text": "n a decent standard of life. State control, which in one form or another&#8212;and I am not very sure as to what is the precise form the hon. Member advocates&#8212;in every ease is unimaginative, inelastic, and absolutely checks all initiative, and, above all, under State control you get utter inability to take those risks which are the whole essence of successful trading and successful business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2506.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2506.0", "colnum": "2506", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "The PRESIDENT of the BOARD of TRADE (Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\" and \"What about the War?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The PRESIDENT of the BOARD of TRADE (Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame)", "preceding_text": "212;in every ease is unimaginative, inelastic, and absolutely checks all initiative, and, above all, under State control you get utter inability to take those risks which are the whole essence of successful trading and successful business. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] Because nobody in a great State machine could ever have the courage to take a risk which involves a loss, and that is why it never works.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2506.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2510.2", "colnum": "2510", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME", "preceding_text": "It is the basis of national and family life, and it has made more for the greatness of the country than any socialism we have ever seen. Hon. Members opposite always resent any allusion to Russia in relation to this&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2510.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-20", "file": "debates1923-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "cffd8dbe5b839219", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2517.3", "colnum": "2517", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NOTTINGHAM LACE INDUSTRY.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And the women\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": "default of anything else I should like briefly to put to the right hon. Gentleman one or two points which I think are worthy of consideration. This country is at the present time paying a large sum of money, quite unproductive, in unemployment benefit to the lace trade. The workpeople in that trade are losing their skill, and day by day the men are becom- ing more unlit to resume their occupation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-20a.2517.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-21", "file": "debates1923-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "82597d2425c49814", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2544.8", "colnum": "2544", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. BARLOW", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. BARLOW", "preceding_text": "I have decided to set up a Committee with the following terms of reference, namely, \"to inquire into the present conditions as to the supply of female domestic servants, and, in particular, to inquire into the effect of the Unemployment Insurance scheme in this connection; and to make recommendations.\" I have invited a number of ladies to serve on the Committee&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2544.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-03-21", "file": "debates1923-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "82597d2425c49814", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2545.2", "colnum": "2545", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "Would it not be well to add to the Committee an adult working woman?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TURNER", "preceding_text": "Is it not advisable to have on the Committee a representative of the fathers whose daughters are in domestic service?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2545.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-21", "file": "debates1923-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "82597d2425c49814", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2558.8", "colnum": "2558", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSE OF COMMONS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LUNN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LUNN", "preceding_text": "Would the right hon. Gentleman consider the advisability, in order to avoid sitting after 11 o'clock at night, of meeting at 11 o'clock in the day?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2558.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-21", "file": "debates1923-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "82597d2425c49814", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2663.1", "colnum": "2663", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Rear-Admiral Sir GUY GAUNT", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Rear-Admiral Sir GUY GAUNT", "preceding_text": "young and then you will get the thing into his system which he will get nowhere else. I hate to speak about myself, but one of my family went into the cavalry and I into the Navy. We never met for many years. Then he was a major in the cavalry and I was a Commander in the Navy, and we disagreed on every blessed topic that we discussed&#8212;or perhaps, I should say we saw things differently&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2663.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-21", "file": "debates1923-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "82597d2425c49814", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2684.3", "colnum": "2684", "heading": "WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He would get the sack if he did!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "preceding_text": "the loss if he failed in his duty&#8212;he is, as I say, bound to provide reasonably safe plant for the purposes of his business; he is also bound by the common law to carry on his business by a reasonably safe system, and he was bound to employ reasonably competent servants. On the other hand, the workman himself was expected, and I hope will always be expected to take reasonable care of himself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2684.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-21", "file": "debates1923-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "82597d2425c49814", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2684.3", "colnum": "2684", "heading": "WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GREAVES-LORD", "preceding_text": "e act of someone for whom he is responsible. You have the Workmen's Compensation Act, practically insuring the workmen, even against his own negligence; because, if he is guilty of wilful default himself, it is only where the injuries are of slightest possible character that he is deprived of the benefit of the Workmen's Compensation Act and the sort of insurance that that Act of Parliament gives.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2684.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-21", "file": "debates1923-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "82597d2425c49814", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2689.0", "colnum": "2689", "heading": "WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. A. JOWITT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is now!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. A. JOWITT", "preceding_text": "dodge, when a man had been injured and had brought an action at common law, to go and get him to accept money, and get him to sign a receipt saying he had got it under the Workmen's Compensation Act. Once he put his hand to a document of that kind, unless it could be said that he was so ignorant that he did not understand it, his claim at common law had gone, and gone for ever. It used to be done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2689.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-21", "file": "debates1923-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "82597d2425c49814", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2689.0", "colnum": "2689", "heading": "WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. A. JOWITT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Less than that!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. A. JOWITT", "preceding_text": " punished by the jury awarding damages in an action brought at common law. I should like to-point this out&#8212;it might have been useful to some hon. Members in the Debate last night&#8212;that, without increasing the premiums the insurance companies have undertaken to pay larger benefits. At the present time I think that 48 per cent. only of the amount expended in premiums goes to pay benefits.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-21a.2689.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2754.6", "colnum": "2754", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ROYAL AIR FORCE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": "They are afraid to answer that question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2754.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2755.4", "colnum": "2755", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BUDGET.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "Can the right hon. Gentleman say what would be the approximate cost of putting up turnstiles outside every fox covert in England?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BALDWIN", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member's suggestion has been noted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2755.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2759.4", "colnum": "2759", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel STEPHENSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel STEPHENSON", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the French Government have been maintaining an army which is far larger than is required for a peace footing, that they are conducting military operations on a large scale in Germany, contrary to the wishes of their British and American Allies, and that their air force was recently described in another place as a menace to Europe?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2759.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2765.2", "colnum": "2765", "heading": "HOUSE OF COMMONS (LADIES' GALLERY).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "Since Monday last, I have taken such steps as were open to mo to ascertain the feeling of hon. Members, and I have discovered that there is a large volume of opinion in favour of maintaining the present system. I have, therefore, decided to make no alteration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2765.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2765.4", "colnum": "2765", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTIONS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "I desire, Mr. Speaker, to ask you a question in relation to a question that I sought your permission to ask by Private Notice. I do not propose to repeat the question. I merely mention that it related to a communication sent by people deported from this country, and interned without trial&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2765.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2765.6", "colnum": "2765", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTIONS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "I am merely indicating&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2765.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2855.1", "colnum": "2855", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Sir B. FALLE", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir B. FALLE", "preceding_text": "le the non-commissioned officers of the Army are allowed a fully-licensed bar, the chief petty officers of the Navy are not allowed a fully-licensed bar, and they feel the distinction, more especially as the Admiralty instruction was that these gentlemen are to feel that the Admiralty have every confidence in them. They have every confidence in them, but they do not give them a fully-licensed bar.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2855.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2858.2", "colnum": "2858", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "preceding_text": "That is an absolutely untrue statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2858.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2861.1", "colnum": "2861", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "preceding_text": "turned on the streets. I am amazed that this should be done after the First Lord's statement, the other day, that apart from the new shipbuilding programme there would be plenty of work to keep the present staff fully occupied for some years to come. No sooner had the right hon. Gentleman said that than 100 apprentices in Devon-port Dockyard, with five and a half years' training, were sent adrift.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2861.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2889.8", "colnum": "2889", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACPHERSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACPHERSON", "preceding_text": "red with our own. All these things are of the most colossal importance, and I would appeal to my hon. and gallant Friend to ask the Secretary of State to look into this himself personally. I have worked with the Noble Lord, and I know he has got a courageous mind&#8212;a mind receptive of new and fresh ideas, and I hope these remarks which I have ventured to make, I fear at too great length&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2889.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0", "colnum": "2904", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: These are taken into account!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": "y observations last week as a good job. There was an interruption to the effect, I think, that there was a shortage of cadets to-day, and that has been referred to to-day. Let us examine that a little more closely. Is there any other profession at all where a young map qualified commences right off with a salary of &#163;380 a year? Is there any other profession where a man can qualify so cheaply?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0", "colnum": "2904", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes, they have the opportunity!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": "and you certainly do not earn &#163;380 a year when you commence. Take the Bar, which is worse, and where you are very many years after qualifying before you can earn any money. You can go through the whole gamut. I do not object to the conditions of the cadets, but what I would like to ask the hon. and gallant Gentleman is, do the sons of the working-classes get an opportunity to go to Sandhurst?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0", "colnum": "2904", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": " glad of the opportunity to go to Sandhurst, and who would make admirable soldiers. I am very pleased to hear that the case is as suggested by the hon. Member, and I ask that: the fact should be made a little better known; then you will have no shortage of cadets. I come now to the discussion inaugurated last week on the Army Pay Corps. If I turn to column 1928 in the OFFICIAL REPORT I read&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0", "colnum": "2904", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": ". One of them received the highest honour a man can get on the field, the Victoria Cross. \"&#8212;[OFFICIAL REPOKT. 15th March. 1923; col. 1928, Vol. 161.] I would recommend the hon. and gallant Member to verify his facts and his information. There is not a single member in the Royal Army Pay Corps who has got the Victoria Cross. What do I find? He is referring to the Corps of Military Accountants", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0", "colnum": "2904", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": "or the benefit of the hon. Members who did not quite follow what I said. I will read the statement again: They are skilled men, who went out and fought, and came back to the Pay Department as military accountants. One of them received the highest honour a man can get on the field, the Victoria Cross. I say again, there is not a single officer in the Royal Army Pay Corps who got the Victoria Cross.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0", "colnum": "2904", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No. \"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": "ead in the Corps of Military Accountants was some &#163;71 in favour of that body as against the Royal Army Pay Corps. I suggested that if the Pay Department, which does the same sort of work&#8212;that is, all financial work&#8212;reduced their Corps to the same level as the Corps of Military Accountants, &#163;61,699 could be saved. That is what my hon. Friends on the other side are laughing at.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2904.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2908.1", "colnum": "2908", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": "in the Estimates, but no mention is made as to the costing of the Local Audit Staff. The total number of the staff, so far as I can find out from the Estimates, is not given, but the statement sent to me from the War Office shows that the total staff, on which this sum of &#163;283,238 is expended, numbers only 402. The cost per head per annum, therefore, of the Local Audit Staff is &#163;704 10s.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2908.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2909.1", "colnum": "2909", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": "o stated last week, and I think I gave reasons for it, that the whole of the staff of the Record Offices should be dismissed. If that were done it would mean a saving of &#163;33,950. The total saving, therefore, on the Local Audit Staff, the Pay Department, and the Record Offices would amount to &#163;259,464. I put forward that as my excuse for what I am afraid has been a somewhat boring speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2909.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2909.1", "colnum": "2909", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": "n are doing. I have not the privilege that the Financial Secretary has of going in and demanding to be told what they are doing, but one tries in the best way possible to find out, and I find that these civilian gentlemen on the Local Audit Staff are keeping books which are an absolute duplication of books which are very well kept already, and very satisfactorily kept, by the military authorities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2909.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2910.1", "colnum": "2910", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": " the present moment we find that, as he is responsible for the whole of the financial side of the War Office, he is responsible for the Pay Corps and the Local Audit Staff. Who ever heard of a secretary being the auditor of the company as well? That is what is found at the War Office. The thing is perfectly absurd. I have glanced down the names of the members of the Army Council, and I ask &#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2910.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2910.1", "colnum": "2910", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HODGE", "preceding_text": "the members of the Army Council, and I ask &#8212;[ Interruption ]&#8212;I say nothing about their military knowledge, or what they propose to do in the military sense, but when it comes to the question of finance I claim the right to talk, and I ask, are there any men on the Army Council who have sufficient knowledge to stand up against the present Permanent Financial Secretary to the War Office?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2910.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-22", "file": "debates1923-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "4d67645ba4c8d73a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2917.1", "colnum": "2917", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GWYNNE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GWYNNE", "preceding_text": "great many points raised by the hon. and gallant Gentleman the Member for Preston (Lieut.-Colonel Hodge). I will not deal with them in detail. The hon. Member complained very seriously that in the Army Pay Department there is duplication of books &#8212;he does not seem to mind the duplication of speeches. He treated the House to precisely the same oration to-night, in detail, as he did last week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-22a.2917.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2935.2", "colnum": "2935", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RAILWAY FIRES ACT (1905) AMENDMENT BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPARKES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They are dead.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPARKES", "preceding_text": "er, whilst the speakers opposing the Bill consisted of two Conservatives, two Independent Liberals and the then acting Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, whose opposition appears to have been based on the dread lest landlords should remotely or indirectly derive any benefit from the Measure. There was also an hon. Member described as \"N.D.P.\" which I understand to mean \"National Democratic Party.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2935.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2939.1", "colnum": "2939", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RAILWAY FIRES ACT (1905) AMENDMENT BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBEES: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman who moved the Second Heading has told us that agriculture is dying. I am afraid that agriculture is in a bad way, but this Bill is not going to help it, and if it were I do not see why it should be at the expense of railway shareholders who for many years have received very small dividends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2939.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2941.1", "colnum": "2941", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RAILWAY FIRES ACT (1905) AMENDMENT BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON MEMBER: \"What harm will it do?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": " increase. All authorities on agriculture have been saying during this year that agriculture is in an extremely bad way, and that unless something is done to keep up prices the cultivation of cereals must be diminished and the land allowed to go back into grass. What is going to happen is that the prices will go back to the level which existed before the War. What then will be the use of the Bill?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2941.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2941.1", "colnum": "2941", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RAILWAY FIRES ACT (1905) AMENDMENT BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "ven days to 14 days. A farmer knows when he has had a fire, and all he has to do is to write a postcard to the nearest station or to the terminus of the railway company to say there has been a fire. Why should he wait for 14 days? That will make it quite impossible for the railway companies to ascertain how the fire arose. In these days agricultural labourers will persist in smoking at their work.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2941.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2974.0", "colnum": "2974", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major PAGET", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"All wrong!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major PAGET", "preceding_text": "als in an agricultural show?\" Every man who has had anything to do with showing knows that you cannot hope to win a prize for hunter or hack or hackney unless the horse has been subjected to a very considerable process of training. Are those animals included or are they not? If the answer is that they are trained as performing animals what about the fat oxen walking round the ring led by a farmer?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2974.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2982.1", "colnum": "2982", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": " of this Bill, but if I am in order in the Committee stage, I intend to move Amendments to broaden the scope of the Bill, and make it much more useful. I think the present Measure savours a good deal of humbug. If the promoters really had been sincere, they would have brought within the scope of this Measure steeple-chasing; the hunting of foxes, one of the most cruel sports that man could follow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2982.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2984.0", "colnum": "2984", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir WALTER de FRECE", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"And some hon. Members are there.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir WALTER de FRECE", "preceding_text": "eport of the Select Committee is to be acted upon, it should surely be at the instance of the Government, and not be left to private sentimentalists. The Bill deals, as has rightly been said, with the training of \"all\" animals, from the dog in a Punch and Judy Show to presumably horses in the Grand National. The Grand National is being run to-day. Most hon. Members of this House I think know that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2984.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2984.0", "colnum": "2984", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir WALTER de FRECE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir WALTER de FRECE", "preceding_text": "ey were not fluttering about in the water. The manager explained that the water was heated, as the artistes had subsequently to dive into it, and that, therefore, the ducks were somnolent, because they were getting a tepid bath at the expense of the management! That is the sort of complaint we get. Moreover, may I point out that, under this Bill, a bird is an animal, and apparently a snake is not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2984.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2992.1", "colnum": "2992", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. BUTCHER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is there not in existence now a. law against cruelty? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. BUTCHER", "preceding_text": "e existing law, the facilities for inspection, obtaining evidence, prosecution, and so on, were insufficient to stop this cruelty. It is quite true, and I wish to say so in the most public way that I cant that many&#8212;I would say probably all&#8212; of the best exhibitors are against cruelty. They desire to suppress cruelty, and I think most of them would welcome any Measure for suppressing it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2992.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2992.1", "colnum": "2992", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. BUTCHER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. BUTCHER", "preceding_text": "references to the Grand National and it is suggested that if the Bill passed every horse trained for the Grand National would be a performing animal. We speak of a good hunter as being a good performer I agree. That is a question that will have to be gone into in Committee. I do not want a Grand National horse to be treated as a performing animal for the purpose of the Bill any more than a hunter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2992.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2992.1", "colnum": "2992", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. BUTCHER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Did you wear spurs?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. BUTCHER", "preceding_text": "a good hunter as being a good performer I agree. That is a question that will have to be gone into in Committee. I do not want a Grand National horse to be treated as a performing animal for the purpose of the Bill any more than a hunter. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why.\"] Because it belongs to a totally different category of things. I have trained horses and I have ridden in a good many point-to-point races.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2992.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2995.0", "colnum": "2995", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PATRICK COLLINS", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PATRICK COLLINS", "preceding_text": "I have been very interested to hear the hon. and learned Member for York (Sir J. Butcher) telling us the story of this Bill, but I do not think he knows anything about it at all. I do not suppose he has ever been to see any show. It is only what he has read in evidence. The true test is to see the animals perform. I have had twenty or thirty lions&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2995.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2995.0", "colnum": "2995", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PATRICK COLLINS", "cue_text": "HON MEMBER: \"Rhinoceroses!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PATRICK COLLINS", "preceding_text": "ot wild lions. You have to train these animals when they are cubs. You can do nothing with them after 12 months old. It is done in the same way that you rear puppies. You tame them in that manner. I can tell the House, you can do nothing with these animals at all by brutality. It is a mistake to say that there is brutality in connection with performing animals, such as lions, tigers and elephants.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2995.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2995.0", "colnum": "2995", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PATRICK COLLINS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PATRICK COLLINS", "preceding_text": "a horse. When you break in a horse, an iron bit is put into its mouth, and it is held by a rein to keep its head back. Then you get what is called \"a mouth.\" No doubt many hon. Gentlemen know what that is. You go on, with the bit in the horse's mouth, and there is a certain amount of iron in his mouth. He has to chew that iron for at least seven days before he is properly what is called \"mouthed.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2995.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2997.4", "colnum": "2997", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MARCH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MARCH", "preceding_text": "The point of view of hon. Members would be quite different from the point of view of the animal. Again, the point of view of hon. Members with regard to training the horse would be quite different from that of the animal. It is all very well for hon. Gentlemen to say that they have ridden horses. They have ridden them after the work has been done, and after the horses have been got ready for them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2997.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2998.5", "colnum": "2998", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MARCH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"AS a jockey? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MARCH", "preceding_text": "Yes, and I am one of those who have been over their heads more than once.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2998.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2999.1", "colnum": "2999", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MARCH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MARCH", "preceding_text": "I know very well that I would not be thrown over a horse's head without giving one back.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2999.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2999.1", "colnum": "2999", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MARCH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not of that kind!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MARCH", "preceding_text": "I know very well that I would not be thrown over a horse's head without giving one back. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"] Hon. Members probably do not care for realities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.2999.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.3007.0", "colnum": "3007", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GROVES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GROVES", "preceding_text": "ich, presumably, have been trained. A glass cage is placed for the fleas, and the glass is warmed to a certain temperature until the fleas jump. These insects jump a sufficient number of times to be so injured that they fear the next jump. The point I desire to make is, that nearly every species of animal with which you are dealing on the stage has been trained by the actual fear of bodily injury.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.3007.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.3007.0", "colnum": "3007", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GROVES", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GROVES", "preceding_text": "uggest that I am keenly interested in this Bill, and I think if we can do anything to impress upon the people connected with this industry actually to cease any practice that inflicts bodily pain upon animals then, in my opinion, we are performing a just and righteous act. Finally, I think it is a very wrong thing that we should bring our children up to go and see these very indecent performances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.3007.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.3013.7", "colnum": "3013", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "preceding_text": "I am certain there is not a single Member who disagrees with the principle embodied in this Bill. I am a great lover of animals and I have a great many animals about me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.3013.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-23", "file": "debates1923-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "e17ae3d5c7ba19d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.3014.1", "colnum": "3014", "heading": "PERFORMING ANIMALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "preceding_text": "hall have the greatest possible pleasure in supporting, to increase the penalties. One reads, almost every week, of cases in the country where a man is fined a few shillings for some striking act of cruelty. We have 45,000,000 people to deal with in this country, but instances of deliberate cruelty are very few, compared with the total number of people. We have wasted three and a half hours&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-23a.3014.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.109.0", "colnum": "109", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LOCAL AUTHORITIES (EMERGENCY PROVISIONS) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER SHAW", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER SHAW", "preceding_text": "o confine myself on this occasion entirely to the Scottish case. Their sympathy makes it all the more remarkable that a preposterous proposal such as is contained in Clause 3 of the Bill should be brought forward for the consideration of the House of Commons. I do not know whether there are any English Members present at the moment, but they have been conspicuous by their absence from this Debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.109.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.139.0", "colnum": "139", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FEES (INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FOOT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You are wasting it now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FOOT", "preceding_text": "me to deal with the affairs of the nation. It is a very strange commentary on their complaints that they should have occupied the time of the House with this wretched proposal. They occupied time on the Second Reading; they occupied time in Grand Committee and caused the outflow of large quantities of printers' ink in the newspapers, and they have occupied the time of the House in questions later.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.139.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.157.2", "colnum": "157", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FEES (INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": "-merits frequently are composed of gentlemen whose knowledge of particular industries is not commensurate with the importance of the Departments which they supervise. As the right hon. Gentleman's knowledge of shipping is so limited, one can hardly expect him to consider, as one would desire, the importance of the proposals contained in this Bill. He has been in the hands of the shipping industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.157.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.175.1", "colnum": "175", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL", "preceding_text": " receive a fully-paid policy representing the actuarial value of his premiums, or, possibly, a cash surrender value, and although, again, time is given to the companies and societies to rearrange their finance so as to allow these increased benefits to be given, after five years these benefits will be compulsory. It is just conceivable that some hon. Members will think that five years is too long.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.175.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.179.3", "colnum": "179", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Someone is prosperous! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": ", and so also do the Prudential, the Refuge and the other companies. The Pearl's usual dividend is 50 per cent. on its nominal capital. Last year certainly it was 50 per cent. tax free, but the majority of the ordinary shares have only been half called up, so that in reality now the majority of the ordinary shareholders in the Pearl Insurance Company are receiving 100 per cent. dividend per annum.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.179.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.179.3", "colnum": "179", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We are finding them out.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "rity of the ordinary shares have only been half called up, so that in reality now the majority of the ordinary shareholders in the Pearl Insurance Company are receiving 100 per cent. dividend per annum. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Someone is prosperous! \"] Someone is prosperous, but at whose expense? I am sure the House will be delighted to hear the hon. Member afterwards attempt to justify 13,000 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.179.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.183.5", "colnum": "183", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes, he does!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "winding-up order. I have read out the words, and the House can judge for itself what the meaning is of those words. I quite agree that, in regard to a valuation dispute, the right hon. Gentleman specifically gives both friendly societies and companies an equal right of appeal to the Law Courts, but it is only on a question of valuation. On the other questions he does not give that right of appeal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.183.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.199.0", "colnum": "199", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "I am not disputing that there may have been a benefit in many cases, but it may be a menace for private corporations, out of subscriptions obtained from large masses of the working classes, to build up a financial position which would enable them to dictate financial policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.199.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.201.3", "colnum": "201", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \" Which? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "industrial world. When the bad time comes to these people and they are on the rocks, all the money goes to swell the profits&#8212;not altogether of the policyholders and the shareowners in working-class life. The profits even reach 62&#189; per cent. a year, in a very small shareholding in a large company. Those hon. Friends of mine here who believe in the co-operative or public ownership system.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.201.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.201.3", "colnum": "201", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "ake some of these points in Committee and that he will give them careful consideration. But we submit that the Bill is long overdue. The Parmoor Committee Report was issued more than three years ago. It is only now that we are considering in this House, though a Bill was introduced in another place last year, a really practical means for putting into operation the recommendations of the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.201.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.206.1", "colnum": "206", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. THOMSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. THOMSON", "preceding_text": "", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.206.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.206.1", "colnum": "206", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. THOMSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. THOMSON", "preceding_text": "e excitement of the War, from patriotic motives, and when the tanks went round, invested a large part of their savings in what were described&#8212;I have a circular here&#8212;as National War Bonds but which they find to be an ordinary industrial policy which is not worth the paper on which it is written. There are, I understand, large numbers of people who invested their money in that way&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.206.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-26", "file": "debates1923-03-26a.xml", "sha256": "38fd80de4282ef83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.206.1", "colnum": "206", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INDUSTRIAL ASSURANCE BILL. [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. THOMSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ask your question!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. THOMSON", "preceding_text": "eir savings in what were described&#8212;I have a circular here&#8212;as National War Bonds but which they find to be an ordinary industrial policy which is not worth the paper on which it is written. There are, I understand, large numbers of people who invested their money in that way&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide! \"] I am astonished that Members of the Labour party are anxious to shut down&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-26a.206.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.492.3", "colnum": "492", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PEACE TREATIES.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Keep them up! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": "Is the purpose of that Act to reduce the rates, or to keep them up?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.492.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.510.5", "colnum": "510", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are you going? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "I quite agree that there is a humorous side about this subject, but there is another side to it. I particularly wish to discuss this Bill, and I am not certain that I shall be able to get the Bill where I am going.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.510.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.597.0", "colnum": "597", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ASQUITH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ASQUITH", "preceding_text": "hy of a great Power which has played so large a part in all these things and which cannot, either morally or politically, disinterest itself from their ultimate solution. That is the first point, on which I think we are entitled to get some information. I should like to deal with another matter. As I say, I am in an interrogative mood, and I am not proposing for the moment any constructive policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.597.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.630.1", "colnum": "630", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. P. O'CONNOR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"God help them!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. P. O'CONNOR", "preceding_text": "han a quotation or two from these declarations in favour of the liberation of the Armenians, as I know there are other hon. Members who desire to speak on other subjects, but I have here a declaration of M. Poinear&#233; which begins with words which are almost tragically ironical to-day. He says: The Armenians know us, and we know the Armenians. The Armenians trust us, and we trust the Armenians.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.630.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.654.1", "colnum": "654", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. REMER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. REMER", "preceding_text": " forward which by the widest stretch of imagination can be brought to bear against the case which the silk trade have brought forward. If there is a case, why not let the silk trade and other trades of that kind put their case forward before an impartial tribunal under the Act, in order to prove their case? I have the greatest doubt about the bona fides of some of my right hon. Friend's officials.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.654.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.654.1", "colnum": "654", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. REMER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. REMER", "preceding_text": " have brought forward. If there is a case, why not let the silk trade and other trades of that kind put their case forward before an impartial tribunal under the Act, in order to prove their case? I have the greatest doubt about the bona fides of some of my right hon. Friend's officials. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh! \"] I have the gravest doubts, and I am prepared to submit them to the right hon. Gentleman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.654.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.655.2", "colnum": "655", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Viscount WOLMER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount WOLMER", "preceding_text": "taking every step within our power to promote cotton-growing within the British Empire and elsewhere in order to increase the supply of raw material for this industry, one of our greatest industries. I would remind the hon. Member that when, last Session, my right hon. Friend introduced a Bill to promote cotton growing in the Sudan we did not meet with very warm support from hon. Members opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.655.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.655.2", "colnum": "655", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Viscount WOLMER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount WOLMER", "preceding_text": "he British Empire and elsewhere in order to increase the supply of raw material for this industry, one of our greatest industries. I would remind the hon. Member that when, last Session, my right hon. Friend introduced a Bill to promote cotton growing in the Sudan we did not meet with very warm support from hon. Members opposite. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"] I think I am fully entitled to say that&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.655.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.671.2", "colnum": "671", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"By the farmers! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "preceding_text": "Yes, it was. Mr. Edwards was there. I have offered arbitration and it has been declined&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.671.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.671.2", "colnum": "671", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Twenty years! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "preceding_text": "e whole subject of whether the individual farmers in Norfolk can or can not afford to pay a certain rate of wages. I do not know exactly what powers the Minister of Labour has to order the production of bank books, Income Tax returns, and the hundred and one different documents necessary to arrive at a conclusion on that question, but assuming he has All these powers, how long is it going to take?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.671.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4", "colnum": "685", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, Hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "preceding_text": "with this scheme to deal with any system of trusts. The right hon. Gentleman suggests that public opinion will be a sufficient factor in the matter. I am not so sure about the influence of public opinion. There was a public opinion in this country which do Oared that every facility must be given for the production of munitions in order that the soldiers should have every chance on the battlefield.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4", "colnum": "685", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Trade Unions.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "preceding_text": "ry facility must be given for the production of munitions in order that the soldiers should have every chance on the battlefield. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, Hear.\"] That public opinion, however, did not mean that the munition factories of this country produced the material at prices at which they should have produced it, and the National Factories had to he called into being to deal with the situation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4", "colnum": "685", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: No class won the War \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "preceding_text": "e with regard to the second part of my statement. When the nation was in peril, when there was a tremendous crisis in the fortunes of our country, then the rings were ready to seize their opportunity and we had to call into being a national organisation to deal with the situation. I suggest that to the great mass of the people concerned, to those men who were responsible for winning the War&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4", "colnum": "685", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"So they were.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "preceding_text": "e had to call into being a national organisation to deal with the situation. I suggest that to the great mass of the people concerned, to those men who were responsible for winning the War&#8212;[An HON. MEMBER: No class won the War \"]&#8212;to the men of the working class, this is a crisis just as important as the great World War when the Germans were supposed to be the enemies of the human race.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4", "colnum": "685", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "preceding_text": "pent in providing better houses, so that even a working man might get a parlour in his house. I was surprised to-day at. Question time at what was said about the kind of houses that were to be built, and I wondered if the Minister of Health, when he was speaking on this matter, had not, a parlour in his own house. What is good enough for him is not too good for any of my constituents in Camlachie.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.685.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.690.0", "colnum": "690", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "preceding_text": "bricks, cement, slates, and the various other articles that enter into the construction of a house? All of us on this side&#8212;I am saying this publicly, although, perhaps, it is injudicious&#8212;really expected that, when the present occupant of the office was appointed Minister of Health, it would mean something more effective, so far as that could be expected having regard to his associates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.690.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.692.2", "colnum": "692", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "preceding_text": "n handicapped by regulations laid down in this House, and in the City of Glasgow we are handicapped by the fact of the, land being privately owned by a gang of robbers. That is why we come here. If we could have solved our problems in Glasgow, we need never have left it. These local problems can only be tackled if you have sufficient power behind you. We have been waiting in Glasgow for 100 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.692.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-28", "file": "debates1923-03-28a.xml", "sha256": "7ece83d0fb7dce09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.692.2", "colnum": "692", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (No. 1)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "cue_text": "A laugh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "preceding_text": "or hon. Members to interject interruptions that I cannot hear. I think it is a small measure of courtesy for the House to extend to us that every interruption should be audible. The large proportion of my constituents live in houses of one and two apartments, in which they have to live their lives, in which the children are born, and the old people die. They live their lives there; they die there.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-28a.692.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-29", "file": "debates1923-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "204d4946c588cd90", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.722.0", "colnum": "722", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EDUCATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LEACH", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LEACH", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that the principal owner of this journal, who is eking out a precarious livelihood by these disreputable meanings, is also. &#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.722.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-29", "file": "debates1923-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "204d4946c588cd90", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.755.2", "colnum": "755", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE (EASTER).", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": " could he fully discussed under the old system. What will happen to-day? As soon as the arranged debate on Education and Russia has gone through, the benches will empty. Members will go home and a count will be moved. We may be able to keep 40 members here, but I am afraid it is not very likely on the-eve of the Easter holiday. The result will be that about 4 o'clock the House will be counted out.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.755.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-29", "file": "debates1923-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "204d4946c588cd90", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.758.1", "colnum": "758", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE (EASTER).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "e form in which it is put down by the Government, it would be a simple matter for the Government to bring the discussion to an end, and relieve themselves of any embarrassment which may be occasioned by debate. When right hon. Gentlemen plead for the general convenience of Members, I always suspect that they are not so much concerned about the convenience of Members as about their own convenience.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.758.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-29", "file": "debates1923-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "204d4946c588cd90", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.758.1", "colnum": "758", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE (EASTER).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "ights of the [louse as against the encroachments of the Government. I am quite sure that if tie right hon. Gentleman the Member for the City of London (Sir F. Banbury) had been here this afternoon he would have supported me. After all, he has some respect for the traditions of this House. He has shown it time and again I only regret that there are so few hon. Members opposite who share his spirit.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.758.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-03-29", "file": "debates1923-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "204d4946c588cd90", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.784.0", "colnum": "784", "heading": "EDUCATION.", "cue_speaker": "Sir HENRY CRAIK", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir HENRY CRAIK", "preceding_text": "the decadence of education by means of this economy was the enlarging of the size of classes are hon. Members quite certain of their ground? If they are acquainted with schools, they will surely know that it is sometimes not: at all a bad thing to collect a very considerable number of pupils together in a class room at a time to be all taught together. It arouses their interest and their keenness.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-03-29a.784.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.879.3", "colnum": "879", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; RUSSIA.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "I have information to that effect. Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that this particular man surrendered as a test case, and that hundreds of other cases are hanging upon it, and whether he considers that a trade unionist should give away his principles, fought for for decades&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.879.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.922.1", "colnum": "922", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SALMON AND FRESHWATER FISHERIES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "That may be a fact, but the right hon. Baronet may not know that a good deal of shooting does go on by syndicates of shooting men in this country on Sundays.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.922.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.922.3", "colnum": "922", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SALMON AND FRESHWATER FISHERIES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Russia.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "mit Sunday shooting? And if you permit shooting, you must allow horse-racing and so on on Sunday, and one of our most cherished possessions, the British Sunday, would be still further whittled away. I must say that this movement for brightening up the English Sunday will meet, at any rate, with my strong opposition. I do not want our Sunday to be spent as it is in Spain, Italy and other countries.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.922.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.923.1", "colnum": "923", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SALMON AND FRESHWATER FISHERIES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MORGAN JONES", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Put the point! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MORGAN JONES", "preceding_text": "s, and we must pass it on intact to the next generation. What these people feel is that the controversy, which is an old one, is a controversy between those people who fish for pleasure and those who fish for a living. It appears that on the higher reaches of this river hotels are being built from time to time, and these hotels are being visited by gentlemen in the week-ends in search of pleasure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.923.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.927.0", "colnum": "927", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SALMON AND FRESHWATER FISHERIES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel SPENDER-CLAY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"What do you know about South Wales? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel SPENDER-CLAY", "preceding_text": " however, I think it would be tragic if this Bill does not materialise in some real form. I shall not follow the hon. Member for Caerphilly (Mr. Morgan Jones) far in the direction he has gone except to say that I understand that certain people in South Wales are greater adepts at poaching, and by that I mean the taking of fish by illegal methods, than those in any other part of the United Kingdom.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.927.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.932.2", "colnum": "932", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SALMON AND FRESHWATER FISHERIES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel A. MURRAY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No \"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel A. MURRAY", "preceding_text": "e last few lines of Sub- section (1, a ) of Clause 8, because I suggest to the Government that it is not right, in what is pre-eminently a consolidation Bill, to introduce large changes in the existing law of this country. Sub-section (1, a ) of Clause 8, if carried, would to all intents and purposes legalise for all time all existing pollution. That would be the effect of the Clause as it stands.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.932.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.943.2", "colnum": "943", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"For strikes!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "that this Bill is introduced. Everyone must be aware of the excellent work that the special constables did during the War and after wards. There was a very fine force in London, under Sir Edward Ward, which did most useful work. We feel that it is most desirable that a nucleus force should be maintained so that men who know something about constabulary work can be used at short notice if required.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.943.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.962.1", "colnum": "962", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "e young limit? Are they going to take boys of 18? As my hon. Friend the, Member for Silvertown (Mr. J. Jones) says, if they are not allowed to drink a glass of beer in a public-house, are they to be entrusted with the defence of our homes and liberties in time of civil disturbance? Are they going to enrol lads of 16, who can be enrolled in sufficient numbers to make things extremely objectionable?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.962.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.974.0", "colnum": "974", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "me to us and ask us to enrol special constables we will enrol ourselves We will be the special constables for you, and if there is a trade dispute we will take care of the meat vans, and the meat, of course, and everything else that is necessary to be taken care of. But the right hon. Gentleman's Department would find some means of preventing our people being enrolled in this special constabulary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.974.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.979.3", "colnum": "979", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"At two.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "There you are! Now we know. This is said to be done for the benefit of Scotland. We can have them at the age of 14, or at the age of 12, even. You can have them at any age.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.979.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.983.1", "colnum": "983", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. LOCKER-LAMPSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"We do \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. LOCKER-LAMPSON", "preceding_text": " a certain amount of experience if this body was formed before the emergency occurred, before the excitement of the emergency is upon us. All these men are to be under the police authorities in the different districts, that is to say, under the police themselves. I do not think that I need answer the statement that this Bill is politically biassed and anti-Labour. I do not believe it for a moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.983.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.989.0", "colnum": "989", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "preceding_text": "e. There is this about the character of the police&#8212;at any rate, they are chosen from all classes of the workers, and the police can-riot be and are not suspected of being industrial partisans. They are not suspicious and they are not suspected. What is going to be the character of the new force? The hon. Gentleman who spoke last said, in effect, that the working class would not belong to it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.989.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.989.0", "colnum": "989", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "preceding_text": " any rate, they are chosen from all classes of the workers, and the police can-riot be and are not suspected of being industrial partisans. They are not suspicious and they are not suspected. What is going to be the character of the new force? The hon. Gentleman who spoke last said, in effect, that the working class would not belong to it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no! \"] Yes, what he said came to that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.989.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.989.0", "colnum": "989", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "preceding_text": "the day declared that it was an attack against the nation. The Government of the day, of whom hon. Gentlemen opposite were supporters, declared that it was an attack against the nation and that the workers were holding up the community. They then proceeded to ask for a citizen guard. Hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite want to have a citizen guard ready whenever a similar occasion arises again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.989.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.990.1", "colnum": "990", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "preceding_text": "ad to any disturbance at all, but the fury of the working class, not only of the railway men, but of all others who were in any degree sympathetic with them, was very remarkable when that announcement was made about the citizen guard. The point is that this White Guard is created by the Government, the unfortunate consequence will be that. it will create a desire on the other side for a Red Guard.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.990.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.1", "colnum": "991", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"By conscription? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "preceding_text": "in the case of Bavaria at the present time&#8212;are being used by the Government deliberately against the workers and the same thing may apply here. If the Home Secretary says that the force which he hopes to create is not to be of this character, will he give the promise that in the mining districts of Northumberland and Durham he will have a proper proportion of the working miners in the force.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.1", "colnum": "991", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "preceding_text": "erately against the workers and the same thing may apply here. If the Home Secretary says that the force which he hopes to create is not to be of this character, will he give the promise that in the mining districts of Northumberland and Durham he will have a proper proportion of the working miners in the force. [HON. MEMBERS: \"By conscription? \"] Will he take them if they volunteer for the force?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.1", "colnum": "991", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "preceding_text": "rt, but very difficult to stop. Some people, I know, think a class war is inevitable. Personally I do not think it is inevitable but I do believe it is possible, and I think nothing is so liable to create class war as making it possible for the Government of the day to have a force which will in fact&#8212;as it was beginning to be in the railway strike&#8212;be chosen from one class and one only.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.2", "colnum": "991", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander BURNEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander BURNEY", "preceding_text": ". Jones) said no honest man would become a special constable. There have been other extraordinary statements of that character. What really is the reason for the creation of a system of special constables? Surely it is due to the activities, I will not say of hon. Members opposite, but of certain of our trade union leaders, because what have they been doing? They have been preaching class warfare.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.2", "colnum": "991", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander BURNEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander BURNEY", "preceding_text": "ome a special constable. There have been other extraordinary statements of that character. What really is the reason for the creation of a system of special constables? Surely it is due to the activities, I will not say of hon. Members opposite, but of certain of our trade union leaders, because what have they been doing? They have been preaching class warfare. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!] Yes, they have.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.2", "colnum": "991", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander BURNEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander BURNEY", "preceding_text": " statements of that character. What really is the reason for the creation of a system of special constables? Surely it is due to the activities, I will not say of hon. Members opposite, but of certain of our trade union leaders, because what have they been doing? They have been preaching class warfare. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!] Yes, they have. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Name! \"] Well, there are plenty over there.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.991.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.992.0", "colnum": "992", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "I would like to ask the hon. and gallant. Member what he is charging me with?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.992.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.994.4", "colnum": "994", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. STEPHEN", "preceding_text": "s and attack them in the name of law and order. I protest against this wretched Measure brought forward by the Home Secretary which is consistent with his policy of arresting men and putting them into prison without any charge being made against them. I know that one or two of those men have already been released. and that is why I say this Bill is in keeping with the Policy of the Home Secretary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.994.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.999.0", "colnum": "999", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "The Bill which has been under discussion must, I think on all hands, be recognised as a most unfortunate and ill-advised Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.999.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.999.0", "colnum": "999", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We shall make them \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "s on the other side of the House. They are in power to-day. They have the right of making the regulations and can constitute their Fascisti or their White Guard, as they choose, by the regulations they make. But what if the hon. Gentleman the Member for Aberavon (Mr. R. MacDonald) and his friends are on the Front Bench opposite in two years' time, and they have the power to make regulations&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.999.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.999.0", "colnum": "999", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not.?\" Will you he pleased at that? [An HON. MEMBER: \"Certainly.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "s and can constitute their Fascisti or their White Guard, as they choose, by the regulations they make. But what if the hon. Gentleman the Member for Aberavon (Mr. R. MacDonald) and his friends are on the Front Bench opposite in two years' time, and they have the power to make regulations&#8212;[An HON. MEMBER: \"We shall make them \"]&#8212;and they can prescribe the special constabulary they want?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.999.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1001.1", "colnum": "1001", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "ere is no more tendency to riot and disorder, then there is no need for this special force. From 1831 to 1914 there was no special provision for a force of this kind, though by the Act of 1831 they could be enrolled in special emergencies. They were enrolled, I think, at the time of the Chartist agitation, but from that time until 1914, so far as I recollect, we had no need for special constables.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1001.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1003.1", "colnum": "1003", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER,: \"You were not here! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "is Bill, we find references to the railway strike of 1919. We remember all that occurred then. We remember the design for a defence force at that time! We remember also the statement made that there was an anarchist conspiracy! It was an extraordinary situation. Some of us, who were not in the House in those days, could not understand why the anarchist conspiracy was never discussed in this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1003.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1003.3", "colnum": "1003", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What?\" and \"Strike-breaking! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "hat, you get a different reason given from the Front Bench from that which is given from the Back Bench, you thereby create suspicion that the objects which the Government are avowing are not the real objects, that what the Government is concerned with is not simply the preservation of law and order in this country, but the creation of a force which will be used for other needs and other purposes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1003.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1005.2", "colnum": "1005", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You will be the first to go! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "nd it apparently has, but in his own mind the apprehension that looms largely seemed to me to be the apprehension that when hon. Gentlemen on the Front Bench opposite changed places with us here they might use this Bill in some way unsatisfactory to him. I have no such apprehension. I think they would be only too glad to have this Act, when it is passed, to help them if any emergency should arise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1005.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1006.1", "colnum": "1006", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"During the War.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "Why should it be provoking disorder to continue a force which has been in existence up to now and which not one hon. Member opposite has ventured to say has done anything but excellent work?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1006.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1008.0", "colnum": "1008", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1008.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1008.0", "colnum": "1008", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "the working men of this country, That has been proved over and over again on the Continent. Now that we see this amazing metamorphosis in the attitude of the constitutional party, it is, perhaps, as well that we should realise that Labour in power may have as stiff a fight to preserve order against reaction as ever reaction can have in preserving order against people rightly struggling to be free.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1008.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1010.0", "colnum": "1010", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HOHLER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down!\" \"Wedgwood!\" and [ Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HOHLER", "preceding_text": "On a point of Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1010.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1010.4", "colnum": "1010", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No. \"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "al necessity. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\" I wish that \"No!\" had come from the Front Bench, instead of from the Back Benches. Let us imagine, if that be so, whether the sort of people from whom the force is to be recruited is the sort of people who will maintain an unbiassed, non-party attitude, toward the dispute in question. I maintain that this force obviously will rule out at once all trade unionists.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1010.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-09", "file": "debates1923-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "0993a38a506efe97", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1025.6", "colnum": "1025", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "Are you quite correct in saying&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"]&#8212;that we have actually voted the money for the Army? Is it not a fact that we have only passed the Committee stage? [HON. MEMBERS: \"No! \"] Have we passed the Report stage, too?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-09a.1025.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1487.3", "colnum": "1487", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "May I repeat again I have no Army experience, and may I say the only people who have the right to know why not are the Government of the country at the time. If they thought I should have been in the Army, it was their business, and not the business of the men who asked the question. I am as willing to do my part for the country as you are.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1487.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1490.4", "colnum": "1490", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain HUDSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain HUDSON", "preceding_text": " a man may be punished because he has a button off his coat or a button off his trousers, or even because he needs a hair cut. It is these small things which do make for the discipline of the Army. It is all very well to say that a soldier should have his right to appeal to a civil tribunal for things like that. I think if you got that we might get on the Russian lines and try the Red Army system.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1490.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1490.4", "colnum": "1490", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain HUDSON", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain HUDSON", "preceding_text": "e T did not. hear the Red Flag sung yesterday. [ Interruption. ] I understand from Members who have been in the House in previous years that this Amendment has been known as a \"hardy annual,\" which is, I believe, always withdrawn. I am certain officers of the Army do not want this Amendment, and if you vote against the Government the officers will not thank you. They will think, as they always do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1490.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1496.1", "colnum": "1496", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir S. HOARE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir S. HOARE", "preceding_text": "he right. hon. Gentlemen and I disagree, and there is no use disguising the fact. I hold strongly the view that the Army and Air Councils are independent bodies which is much more likely to be impartial and merciful to the young officer, than some outside tribunal. That is the whole case of the Government. Having said that, I venture to suggest to the Committee that we have had a very full debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1496.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1506.6", "colnum": "1506", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, \"That the Clause he read a Second time.\" I do not agree with hard labour&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1506.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1542.2", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "I want to support this Amendment, and to draw your attention to the faces on the other side. We are seriously discussing a very serious matter to the people I represent, and it is being discussed when the average man here is not in a fit condition.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1542.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1544.0", "colnum": "1544", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": " soldier tied. We are desirous of having the soldier free, so that any future Winston Churchills will not have the power to organise the British Army to take the place of the British working class, and of the railwaymen as in 1911. The right hon. Member for Paisley (Mr. Asquith) when he was Home Secretary used troops against the miners of the Featherstone, and the miners were murdered by Liberals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1544.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1546.0", "colnum": "1546", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel GUINNESS", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel GUINNESS", "preceding_text": "It was during the dispute.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1546.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1546.9", "colnum": "1546", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel GUINNESS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They are divided already.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel GUINNESS", "preceding_text": " way depends upon it. The best the troops can do is to use their military formation and their discipline. They are not in any different position from any other citizens. The Amendment would really put the soldier above the law in this respect. It would exempt him from the obligation which is imposed upon any citizen, and it would further divide the Army into two classes with different obligations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1546.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1548.2", "colnum": "1548", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "The right hon. Gentleman was invited to lunch at Leeds last week.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LUNN", "preceding_text": "It is quite sufficient for me to say that I never charged him in what I said. That is not my position. I said I know what happened at Leeds as a result of what happened at Featherstone, and the blame attached to the right hon. Gentleman by the population of the West Riding for the events that took place.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1548.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1549.0", "colnum": "1549", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Constitutionalism goes bang.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "octrine should he extended to the private soldier. They are entitled to do that until the Government disavow the doctrine put forward by the Prime Minister. There is a dilemma. The right hon. Gentleman the Member for Paisley (Mr. Asquith) did not accept that doctrine. Now, for the first time, we have a Prime Minister who says the officer who has a conscientious objection is entitled to down tools.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1549.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1559.1", "colnum": "1559", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"How many under 18?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "preceding_text": "t four years it has been the most difficult thing in the world to find out how many people were shot upon the field for various offences. This afternoon I received an answer from the War Office which, as far as I am concerned, will be invaluable information. I am informed that the number of cases in which death sentences were carried out for desertion on active service during the late War was 264.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1559.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1560.0", "colnum": "1560", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "Is it in order for Members of this House to lie down on the benches.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "preceding_text": "upon the field for various offences. This afternoon I received an answer from the War Office which, as far as I am concerned, will be invaluable information. I am informed that the number of cases in which death sentences were carried out for desertion on active service during the late War was 264. [AN HON. MEMBER: \"How many under 18?\"] It is true there was a much larger number sentenced to death.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1559.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1561.1", "colnum": "1561", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"I thought they got shot on the spot!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "preceding_text": "king to a man who had been in the Foreign Legion for some years. The average person would think that in the Foreign Legion punishments were very severe. I thought that resort to the death penalty would be greater than in almost any other fighting force, and yet I am informed by this man that there is no such thing as the death penalty for desertion in the face of the enemy or abandoning positions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1561.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1561.1", "colnum": "1561", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not so!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "preceding_text": "thought that resort to the death penalty would be greater than in almost any other fighting force, and yet I am informed by this man that there is no such thing as the death penalty for desertion in the face of the enemy or abandoning positions. [An HON. MEMBER: \"I thought they got shot on the spot!\"] As a matter of fact they do not get shot at all. The maximum penalty is five years for desertion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1561.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1561.1", "colnum": "1561", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAWSON", "preceding_text": "as I come from, arid he tells his own story. This is the story, and I am going to accept the story because I have met him. He says: It all happened when I was a sojer: The month of December, 1916, found me in a filthy manure soaked barn&#8212;a British rest billet! All through one terribly cold wet day we had marched from the British front at Arras to this back area 20 kilometers behind the lines.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1561.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1591.2", "colnum": "1591", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. THOMAS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"Why are you blocking it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. THOMAS", "preceding_text": "ndous difficulty many of the supporters of the Government were in. I understand that the Government have made arrangements, especially with the Lancashire Members, that an opportunity would he given them to express the difficulties under which the cotton trade is labouring at this moment. Obviously there will be differences of opinion on the merits of the matter that should come on this afternoon,", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1591.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1605.1", "colnum": "1605", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "tances, I can make this appeal without any suggestion on the part of any one in the House that I have been in any way contributing to the undue prolongation of the proceedings. It is always wise, when a Government is in the heyday of its power, when it has unbroken legions at its command, to show a reasonable, moderate and conciliatory spirit to an Opposition no matter how insignificant it may be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1605.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1605.1", "colnum": "1605", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"You are up a gum tree!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "asonable, moderate and conciliatory spirit to an Opposition no matter how insignificant it may be. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw\"] I am sorry if my hon. Friends on these Benches think I am applying the term to them. They are anything but a weak Opposition; they are too aggressive. I merely quote this as a warning to the Government. If these things be done in the green tree what will be done in the dry?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1605.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1624.1", "colnum": "1624", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who had the milk?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": " certain time before his appeal could be forwarded. It was eventually forwarded, and the Director-General of Lines of Communication immediately remitted the punishment to 28 days' field punishment No. 2, which had already been served. What happened? The papers were lost, the man was sent from one gaol to another, and was finally taken, like a winkle out of its shell, out of the gaol at Nottingham.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1624.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-12", "file": "debates1923-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "3eec724a6ec84653", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1631.0", "colnum": "1631", "heading": "ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL)BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No\" and \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": "g of support of the principle of conscientious objection to the taking of life, it ought to be on the distinct basis of thoroughly discouraging anyone from entering upon an occupation which is admitted to have a deleterious effect on the man joining it. Anyone who knows anything about the occupation of the Army, knows perfectly well that it is not to the interest of any young man to enter upon it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-12a.1631.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1652.7", "colnum": "1652", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IRELAND.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Agreed! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "Is it not the case that when representations affecting legislation are made between one Government and another within the Empire, the legislature affected should be acquainted with these representations?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1652.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1659.2", "colnum": "1659", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FRANCE AND RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Captain WEDGWOOD-BENN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain WEDGWOOD-BENN", "preceding_text": "Why did the British Government consent to the setting up of this office, which harasses British trade?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1659.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1660.11", "colnum": "1660", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FRANCE AND RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BENN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"By whom? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BENN", "preceding_text": "Is it not a fact that such proposals have been made&#8212;not, indeed, directly by the French Govern- ment&#8212;and have they been apprised of our attitude?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1660.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1661.0", "colnum": "1661", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FRANCE AND RUHR DISTRICT.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel WATTS-MORGAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order \"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel WATTS-MORGAN", "preceding_text": "By your Press&#8212;Lord Rothermere yesterday and the \"Pictorial\" and others.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1661.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1687.2", "colnum": "1687", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": "i, as a protest against the action of the Secretary of State for the Colonies in remitting in favour of the Colonial Sugar Refining Company the Export Tax imposed on sugar by the Legislature of the Colony, have refused to participate further in the deliberations of the Council until an assurance has been given that no similar infringement of Constitutional rights will be attempted in future&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1687.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1687.2", "colnum": "1687", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": "berations of the Council until an assurance has been given that no similar infringement of Constitutional rights will be attempted in future&#8212;[ Interruption ]&#8212;whether the Legislative Council now stands adjourned sine die on that account; and whether he will immediately give the required assurance in order that the business of Government in that Colony may be constitutionally carried on?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1687.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1693.1", "colnum": "1693", "heading": "SALE OF INTOXICATING LIQUORS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, heard!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": ", my recommendation to the House would be to treat it in the way it deserves. The machinery which the House holds in reserve for dealing with attempts at in timidation, or at wrongfully influencing any of its Members, is hardly the machinery to be brought into operation in a case of this kind, though, a course, it would be open to the hon. Member to move. Do I carry the House with me in this view?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1693.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4", "colnum": "1747", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": " real effect of a reduction in Income Tax as a stimulus to trade, has come to the conclusion that not more than 2d. or 2&#189;d. in the shilling saved in Income Tax goes directly to stimulate trade. A very extravagant method indeed of stimulating trade. The Exchequer loses 1s. in order that trade may receive 2d. or 2&#189;d. Where does it go? We know perfectly well where a large amount of it goes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4", "colnum": "1747", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "., to-day it is 2&#190;d. The vast amount of sugar directly consumed in the form of sugar, is consumed by people who are struggling every week to make ends meet. If the world price is so uncertain why should the Chancellor encourage it to keep up. As a matter of fact he knows perfectly well that if he took off his tax the price would go down by the amount of that tax, whatever the world price was.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4", "colnum": "1747", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about a shortage? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": " sugar directly consumed in the form of sugar, is consumed by people who are struggling every week to make ends meet. If the world price is so uncertain why should the Chancellor encourage it to keep up. As a matter of fact he knows perfectly well that if he took off his tax the price would go down by the amount of that tax, whatever the world price was. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] It is perfectly true.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4", "colnum": "1747", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Decreased consumption t \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "ax, whatever the world price was. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] It is perfectly true. [An HON. MEMBER: \"What about a shortage? \"] The price will go up if there is a shortage, but under present; conditions the increase due to the shortage would be plus 2&#190;d. the amount of the tax. Am I to understand hon. Members opposite to say that the 2&#190;d. is going to play no part at all in forcing up the price?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4", "colnum": "1747", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "to fall, so that we may know whether we are going to reduce debt or only to reduce taxation, so that we may know whether this duty, that duty, or the other duty is to lie oppressively or fairly upon the shoulders of the various classes that ultimately pay them, so that we may able, by reducing the dead weight of debt, so to stimulate trade that capital will be required and labour will be required.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1747.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1775.0", "colnum": "1775", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": " whereby the loss may be more rapidly met. You can only repair the loss of that &#163;8,000,000,000, which has been blown into the ground and into the air in the shape of shells, by some form of saving, collective or individual. The plan of debt redemption pursued by the right hon. Gentleman is a collectivist plan. The plan advocated from these benches, of a capital levy, is an individualist plan.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1775.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1775.0", "colnum": "1775", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "You can only repair the loss of that &#163;8,000,000,000, which has been blown into the ground and into the air in the shape of shells, by some form of saving, collective or individual. The plan of debt redemption pursued by the right hon. Gentleman is a collectivist plan. The plan advocated from these benches, of a capital levy, is an individualist plan. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No! \"] May I explain that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1775.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1782.1", "colnum": "1782", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "cellor of the Exchequer has done to-day, and earmark them for the purpose of debt; raise them, graduate them, and put them on a more practical basis. I believe that, economically, death duties can substantially be raised. Then give a good premium, a really substantial premium, to any man who will pay his death duties in advance of his death within a specified number of years from the present date.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1782.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1818.0", "colnum": "1818", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NICHOL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NICHOL", "preceding_text": "ellor of the Exchequer sufficiently ingenious to hand than back in a form in which the rich could take them with them when they go. I point to that, because the whole Budget appears to dispel the last doubt that we have a real Tory Government in power. If 10 or 12 years ago one had asked for what Toryism stood, the ordinary man in the street would have said that it stood for beer and big business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1818.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1820.3", "colnum": "1820", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NICHOL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NICHOL", "preceding_text": "There are very, very few indeed working-class homes nowadays which possess even a single War Savings Certificate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1820.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-16", "file": "debates1923-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "4d4ef76670ee97d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1829.0", "colnum": "1829", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CUSTOMS AND EXCISE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "ase has been put before the Government again and again during the last twelve months, have an equal claim to relief with the agricultural industry. It is true that the workers in the agricultural industry are at the present time in a very dire condition and that that industry is suffering very badly. Surely however, the steel industry of Sheffield needs relief as much as the agricultural industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-16a.1829.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1849.9", "colnum": "1849", "heading": "RAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS.", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Answer, answer'", "preceding_speaker": "Lord H. CAVENDISH- BENTINCK", "preceding_text": "Who is responsible for giving M. Loucheur the impression that this country is favourable to the Ruhr policy of France?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1849.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1857.4", "colnum": "1857", "heading": "RAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. STURROCK", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. STURROCK", "preceding_text": "Is it not a general fact that this Government is pledged absolutely against any sort of measure of Protection?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1857.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1926.1", "colnum": "1926", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "That has nothing to do with it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "preceding_text": "Is it not true that the Corporation Profits Tax was remitted to the railway companies?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1926.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1960.0", "colnum": "1960", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WOODCOCK", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WOODCOCK", "preceding_text": "nts that the methods adopted in this Budget were the methods which they expected a Conservative Government to follow. In this Budget the right hon. Gentleman has endeavoured to legislate for every class of the community in the fairest possible manner. Industry has received the consideration which it deserved, the middle classes have not been forgotten, while the working man has also had his share.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1960.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1960.0", "colnum": "1960", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WOODCOCK", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WOODCOCK", "preceding_text": "ellor of the Exchequer could set up another Committee&#8212;a super-Geddes Committee, that would again attack the Departments which are still overstaffed, and make a final clearance of numbers of those officials who are maintaining Departments which are now redundant? I fear that I have overstepped the time which is generally given to a Member who is for the first time addressing this House&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1960.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1974.1", "colnum": "1974", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HANNON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Reducing the cost of living!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HANNON", "preceding_text": "reduced by 22s. 6d., making it the even 50s., and I say that those who represent the trade are quite prepared, if this concession is made, to give the entire benefit of the reduction to the consumer. The result of that would be that the bottle of whisky which now sells for 12s. 6d.&#8212;hon. Members opposite who do not indulge in whisky probably do not know the price&#8212;will be reduced to 10s.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1974.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1974.1", "colnum": "1974", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HANNON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HANNON", "preceding_text": "deration a reduction of this heavy burden upon a great and essential national industry. I am glad that the Chancellor of the Exchequer has seen his way to make a concession upon mineral waters, but I am sorry that he confined his good action to the sweetened variety. I should have wished, as I daresay would many hon. Members, that the concession was a little larger and that it embraced soda water.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1974.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1975.1", "colnum": "1975", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HANNON", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HANNON", "preceding_text": "use, on the whole, it gives a new stimulus to trade and industry in this country. In spite of the arguments put forwards by hon. Members who seem to think that when you take off taxation you are patting it into the pockets of the rich people of this country, the fact is, that by doing so you are enabling that money to be invested in fresh enterprises, and bringing about the steady growth of trade.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1975.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1980.1", "colnum": "1980", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir ALFRED BUTT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir ALFRED BUTT", "preceding_text": " letting. To-day, when all luxuries and many necessities of life are heavily taxed, I cannot think there is one serious argument against the taxation of betting. It is desirable in the interests of the nation that we should maintain a high standard of horse-breeding, for which this country is famous, and from which we derive a great deal, of wealth. But that hits nothing to do with betting &#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1980.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1987.5", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"At a price!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "preceding_text": "That bears out what I was saying; it can perfectly well be shifted. When a trader has accumulated stocks, he, at any rate, can get rid of them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1987.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1987.5", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Was he paying Income Tax?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "preceding_text": "ehow.\" In this particular matter, you leave theatres with this preposterous burden upon them, and you do not make any effort to get back one penny of the enhanced rental that the profiteer makes by letting the theatre to the really enterprising man who is running it. During the War, one man, to my knowledge, so cornered the theatres of London that he was making profit rentals of&#163;1,250 a week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1987.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1992.3", "colnum": "1992", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "preceding_text": "te the Chancellor of the Exchequer on having the courage of his opinion and refusing, in spite of the unpopularity which might result, to reduce the duty, which would in the end benefit the people of this country little if any at all. Let me compare the question of the reduction of the Sugar Duty with the reduction of the Beer Duty. The reduction in the Beer Duty will give real and genuine relief.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1992.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1992.3", "colnum": "1992", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Inebriates homes!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "preceding_text": "nefit the people of this country little if any at all. Let me compare the question of the reduction of the Sugar Duty with the reduction of the Beer Duty. The reduction in the Beer Duty will give real and genuine relief. [ Laughter. ] Hon. Members laugh, but if they will follow my argument I think they will agree with me. This reduction in the beer duty will give relief in a great many poor homes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1992.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1992.3", "colnum": "1992", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "preceding_text": "half that item of weekly expenditure is above the proportionate cost of anything else in the weekly bill of that household. To say that reduction of the price of beer is not helping the rest of the family is a gross libel upon the poor working classes of this country. If the type of man I am speaking of saves 6d. a week on his beer there will be 6d. a week more for the other members of his family.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1992.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1992.3", "colnum": "1992", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "preceding_text": "making large profits. if they had not been doing so the Chancellor of the Exchequer would not have been able to make the arrangement that he has, in which the brewers are to bear part of the cost of reduction in the price of beer. If the brewer had taken per pint off the price of beer during the last year, not only would he have reduced his profit but he would have wiped the profit out altogether.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1992.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1997.0", "colnum": "1997", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir GODFREY COLLINS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Monopolies are still strong!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir GODFREY COLLINS", "preceding_text": " I am glad to congratulate the Chancellor of the Exchequer on his Budget, except where it deals with the Beer Duty. I believe the time is ripe for a big forward movement in this country. The markets abroad are waiting. Our industrial classes have willingly accepted a reduced level of wages during the last 12 months. The costs of production have been reduced, the level of taxation has been lowered.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.1997.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.2004.0", "colnum": "2004", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Which leader\"?", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "sts, between the Conservative Coalitionists headed by the ex-Chancellor of the Exchequer and the ex-War Minister and the Liberal side of the Coalition headed by the ex-Minister of Health and the ex-Financial Secretary. \"Financial Secretary,\" observe, and he advocated the most unsound finance that has ever been put before the House of Commons without the slightest reproof from any of their leaders.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.2004.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.2004.0", "colnum": "2004", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "o so? Yet the Financial Secretary to the late Treasury, getting up to-day, forgetting his keen, bright past, ventures to denounce the hon. Member for Keighley (Mr. Lees Smith) for following in his footsteps and advocating those sound views that he once advocated. But it is not the late Financial Secretary's views en the Capital Levy to which I want to call attention. People may change their views.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.2004.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-17", "file": "debates1923-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "b6cafb5bdc110742", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.2004.0", "colnum": "2004", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is in the Bill.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "ey have to pay rates upon them. We suggest that in your Budget you should take steps towards putting an end to the present land position by putting a tax upon land values. The Minister of Health is not at the moment here, but he introduced a Housing Bill, and it was suggested at one time that the Housing Bill should contain a Clause relating to empty houses. That Clause was much too revolutionary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-17a.2004.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2030.6", "colnum": "2030", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; UNEMPLOYMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GRUNDY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GRUNDY", "preceding_text": "e that some of these districts are doubly penalised for having found work for the unemployed, first by the increase of the district rate, in addition to the increase of the poor rate, which applies to the whole locality, and also by the fact that the Employment Exchanges are outside the districts and that it is very difficult for the small urban districts to improve their proportion of employment?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2030.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2066.7", "colnum": "2066", "heading": "MINISTERS (FACILITIES) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain THORPE", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Captain THORPE", "preceding_text": "e, but the Bill provides that when Noble Lords come to visit us or when we go to visit them proper provision will be made under the Standing Orders of each Chamber, I almost say for the behaviour, but at any rate for the position and conditions under which these Members speak. The promoters believe that such a Measure can do no harm. They believe that by bringing Ministers into this Chamber&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2066.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2101.4", "colnum": "2101", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": " R. Horne) and the right hon. Member for West Birmingham (Mr. A. Chamberlain) were quite as strong in realising the urgency of this question of a considerable reduction in the Natonal Debt. In those days Liberals were in favour of a capital levy. The Liberal party in the last Parliament actually brought forward a Motion urging the adoption of a capital levy, and that was supported by their leader.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2101.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2115.2", "colnum": "2115", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, the reverse! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": "I can quite understand that these facts are unpalatable to hon. Members opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2115.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2115.2", "colnum": "2115", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": "I can quite understand that these facts are unpalatable to hon. Members opposite. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No, the reverse! \"] The fact that these facts should be made public is disagreeable to them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2115.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2115.4", "colnum": "2115", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": "ich presses, as the Sugar Duty does, upon bare necessaries of life. I have indicated briefly our attitude on the financial proposals of the year. I say no more except this, that when these proposals are embodied in the Finance Bill I can assure the right hon. Gentleman he may rely upon the strenuous opposition of the Labour party to most of his proposals. I have said little about the capital levy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2115.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2117.0", "colnum": "2117", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. GREENWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sugar.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. GREENWOOD", "preceding_text": " attached to that problem. I agree very often with arguments put, forward from the benches opposite with regard to taxation, especially when it is said that the burden of all taxes falls in the main and in the long run on the poorer class of the community. I believe that is true, but I ask the Committee which tax presses the people of the country most and especially the poor people of the country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2117.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2129.0", "colnum": "2129", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": "ources of wealth will have to be tapped. I would suggest that the functionaries of the Crown, or the occupant of the Imperial Chair himself downwards to the functionaries of the House of Commons, many of whom are over-paid, should none of them receive an income of over &#163;2,000 a year. If the King could not get on with less, then let the Stock Exchange have a-voluntary subscription to keep him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2129.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2129.0", "colnum": "2129", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": ", many of whom are over-paid, should none of them receive an income of over &#163;2,000 a year. If the King could not get on with less, then let the Stock Exchange have a-voluntary subscription to keep him. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Order! \"] I thought that would get home; that is because, Mr. Chairman, they will have to pay for their royalty instead of the workers having to pay for the support of the King.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2129.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2193.0", "colnum": "2193", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; POSITION OF PROFESSIONAL WORKERS.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not a bit! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member who has just addressed the House says that the Labour party is trying to get some electoral credit by bringing this Motion forward. That implies that there is a large electorate who are anxious for it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2193.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2206.3", "colnum": "2206", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CATHOLIC SCHOOLS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir WILFRID SUGDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir WILFRID SUGDEN", "preceding_text": "I, a Nonconformist, shall support the Resolution&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2206.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2206.3", "colnum": "2206", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CATHOLIC SCHOOLS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir WILFRID SUGDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide!\" \"Do not talk out the Motion!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir WILFRID SUGDEN", "preceding_text": "for certain definite reasons. The first reason is that the divorce of the religious teaching of any section of the Christian Church from the denominational curricula has been the cause of traducing the high principles of religious toleration in this country, and giving our children the highest ideals, which can only come through such denominational teaching by all sections of the Christian Church.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2206.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2206.3", "colnum": "2206", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CATHOLIC SCHOOLS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir WILFRID SUGDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Divide! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir WILFRID SUGDEN", "preceding_text": " such denominational teaching by all sections of the Christian Church. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide!\" \"Do not talk out the Motion!\"] I do not intend to do so, but I say deliberately that such divorce of denominational teaching is the, reason why to-day only 21 per cent. of the people of this country attend church, whereas in the old days, not 30 years ago, 45 per cent. of the population attended church.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2206.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2212.0", "colnum": "2212", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FISHING INDUSTRY, SCOTLAND.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT (Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health, Scotland)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Parliament!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT (Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health, Scotland)", "preceding_text": " the plight in which this great industry has been placed. Before dealing with the argument which has been put forward, I would say in reply to the hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland (Sir R. Hamilton) that he seems to take an optimistic view when he says the main difficulty will be got over now that we have got power to spend this money, if only we can get the Treasury to place it at our disposal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2212.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2212.0", "colnum": "2212", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FISHING INDUSTRY, SCOTLAND.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT (Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health, Scotland)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about loans? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT (Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health, Scotland)", "preceding_text": " to spend this money, if only we can get the Treasury to place it at our disposal. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Parliament!\"] He may perhaps realise, in the many years to come, during which he will no doubt honourably represent his constituency in Parliament, that there is considerable difficulty in obtaining monics from the Treasury or from the Government for the subsidy of any one particular industry &#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2212.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-18", "file": "debates1923-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "a4ddb011d24d2414", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2212.2", "colnum": "2212", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FISHING INDUSTRY, SCOTLAND.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": "ate of the fishing industry in his constituency, seemed to have forgotten that his constituency is precluded by Statute from receiving any assistance under this Act, which only applies to certain crating counties in the Highlands, and has no reference whatever to the counties of Aberdeen and Kincardineshire, which he represents. That is one example of the difficulties with which we are confronted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-18a.2212.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2332.3", "colnum": "2332", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "The CHAIRMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"There has been! \"", "preceding_speaker": "The CHAIRMAN", "preceding_text": "I have endeavoured to ascertain the wishes of the House in order to make up my mind on the matter. Now it is clear that no formal objection has been taken by the party to which the hon. Member belongs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2332.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2341.1", "colnum": "2341", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame. \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "preceding_text": " per cent. above 1913, butter 71 per cent., cheese 127 per cent., fat sheep 83 per cent., store pigs 107 per cent. and so on, and it is an important fact that the complaints as to the state of the agricultural industry are not nearly so severe from the grass counties, which after all represent about two-thirds of the whole. About two-thirds of the whole farming area of this country is under grass.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2341.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2354.1", "colnum": "2354", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Then why not give it up? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "preceding_text": "nditions for themselves. I think if that were done, it would be a great help to debates in this House. One of the things that is in my mind is this. Perhaps they do not realise, that taking the agricultural land of this country which is in private hands, it is now let at a rent which involves a dead loss to the owner on the whole of the purchase money, and a good proportion of the equipment&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2354.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2354.1", "colnum": "2354", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the pre-War position?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "preceding_text": "a holding, he has to pay half the rent, or an immense proportion, in taxes, and therefore he is at a great disability. The State can get the whole of its rent, but as a private owner I can only get half, and the State takes the other half. The private owner to-day is an unpaid agent for the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It is the absolute fact. What is the position of an agricultural estate to-day?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2354.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2354.1", "colnum": "2354", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nobody.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "preceding_text": "out landlords, but, in face of the attitude of hon. Members opposite, it is necessary to say something. Many forms of social legislation now pressed for most strongly by hon. Members opposite were anticipated by country landlords. Who gave pensions when nobody else gave them? Who provided houses for widows, and allowed widows to stay in houses when no labour was coming out? Who gave them sick pay?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2354.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2357.5", "colnum": "2357", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "preceding_text": ", if any other agricultural operation could get the assistance given to sugar beet, we would hear nothing in the House of agricultural Debates. I believe that the assistance given amounts to something like &#163;20 per acre. I am not sure it is not more. The whole of the Sugar Duty, which, I think, the hon. Members opposite are prepared very loudly to complain of, in respect to its enormous weight", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2357.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2367.1", "colnum": "2367", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "preceding_text": "ller gets the wheat, and he says, \"I am not in business for my health, and I have to put all the rates and taxes and extra railway charges and everything else on to the flour.\" The, baker says exactly the same, and puts it on the loaf, and I verily believe to-day that the consumers do not realise that they are paying on each loaf of bread something like 1&#189;d. to 2d. in extra internal taxation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2367.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2381.3", "colnum": "2381", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROYCE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Four per cent.!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROYCE", "preceding_text": "ons represented the Dutch effort to send us potatoes. if licences would have the effect of keeping these potatoes back a bit with the result that the early potato growers would get the advantage of the early market, I do not know that I should have any particular objection; but see what happened. These 36,000 tons of potatoes representing 2 per cent., I think, of the whole of the production&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2381.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2382.1", "colnum": "2382", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROYCE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROYCE", "preceding_text": "ed to export it, it is true not in large quantities, to Holland in pre-War days, so that we can grow sugar beet. At any rate, I hope that the right hon. Gentleman, if he has any idea in future of subsidising sugar beet companies, will consider the claims of the area where you can grow sugar beet. There are many more subjects with which I could deal, but I am sure that the Committee is tired of me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2382.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2398.0", "colnum": "2398", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "May we have the date?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacLAREN", "preceding_text": "ess of that formerly received. Then they give this as an illustration. It is the case of an agricultural estate of sonic 5,500 acres in a southern county, the owner of which was in receipt of an income of barely &#163;2,000 a year from it. The property realised a total of &#163;193,000. Allowing liberally for expenses, the purchase money invested at 5 per cent. would produce &#163;9,000 per annum.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2396.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2408.4", "colnum": "2408", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Major MOLSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major MOLSON", "preceding_text": "te understand that such an increase of freight has quite smashed the potato trade. Their celery trade has also been hit very hard. I do not know what the Minister will be able to do with regard to these rates, but I agree that the reduction is not sufficient to make it profitable for the farmers. I suppose it will be hardly possible to suggest that the Government should help the railway companies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2408.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2414.1", "colnum": "2414", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. EDE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. EDE", "preceding_text": "I have gone very carefully into the matter. I know of one county council&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2414.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2416.2", "colnum": "2416", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "preceding_text": "ees to agriculture. Nothing was too good for the farmers then. Everybody was willing to come to help them. I never thought that people' s memory would be so short. The farmers produced all the corn they could, under compulsion for the moment, but they soon did it voluntarily when they saw that the country was in need. They did it without considering whether they were going to make a profit or not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2416.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2418.3", "colnum": "2418", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "preceding_text": "Yes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2418.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2418.3", "colnum": "2418", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "preceding_text": "If you want agriculture to pay, and to continue, you must support private ownership of land and private interest in land. I would far rather rent under a good landlord with a big capital than be my own landlord. My own landlord offered me my farm some time ago, and I said that I would prefer him to go on owning it, and rent- ing it to me, and I am better off to-day than if I had purchased my farm.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2418.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2421.2", "colnum": "2421", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "preceding_text": "nt is a philanthropist of the first water. We were told just now that the Minister of Agriculture was forcing his opinions on certain sections of the agricultural industry. I am very glad that he is able to do that, for I was not aware of it. I quite agree with the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Chelmsford that agriculture is the Cinderella of industry. It is the oldest industry in the World.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2421.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2421.2", "colnum": "2421", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "preceding_text": "on certain sections of the agricultural industry. I am very glad that he is able to do that, for I was not aware of it. I quite agree with the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Chelmsford that agriculture is the Cinderella of industry. It is the oldest industry in the World. [HON. MEMBERS \"No! \"] Perhaps agriculture is riot the oldest industry. Dressmaking and tailoring may have been the oldest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2421.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2421.2", "colnum": "2421", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "cue_text": "Laud laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "preceding_text": "hter. ] It is a matter of opinion. But we will say agriculture is a very old industry. Why should it be the Cinderella? Why should the Minister of Agriculture be the junior Minister in the Cabinet? Why should he not be placed on the level of others and be paid the same salary as the other Ministers in the Cabinet? If that were i done, we would get a Minister of Agriculture who would learn his job.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2421.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2421.2", "colnum": "2421", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Back to the land! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "preceding_text": "ter of opinion. But we will say agriculture is a very old industry. Why should it be the Cinderella? Why should the Minister of Agriculture be the junior Minister in the Cabinet? Why should he not be placed on the level of others and be paid the same salary as the other Ministers in the Cabinet? If that were i done, we would get a Minister of Agriculture who would learn his job. [ Laud laughter. ]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2421.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-19", "file": "debates1923-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "aca429a74b766094", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2435.0", "colnum": "2435", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Captain TERRELL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain TERRELL", "preceding_text": "The majority of hon. Members deeply regret&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide! \"]&#8212;the deplorable action of a certain section of the Committee this afternoon. Why they held up the Debate is a little uncertain, but it is to be noted that since they obstructed they have disappeared from the Committee. It is all the more regrettable&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-19a.2435.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2456.1", "colnum": "2456", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": "n has been this: \"We will be taking the drink so long as it is available for us, but we do not like this tinkering licensing legislation, and we object also to this class legislation,\" the type of thing represented by the Temperance (Scotland) Act. This, they urge is unfair to the working classes, for the worker says: \"I have a right to get liquor if I want it the same as any man who is well off.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2456.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2456.1", "colnum": "2456", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Robert. Burns! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": "party&#8212;the hon. Member for Colne Valley (Mr. Snowden)&#8212;at the same time denounced, and I certainly endorse his statement, the degrading proposal of imposing taxation on betting. If it is degrading to impose taxation upon betting, surely it is equally if not still more degrading for us to be identified with the taxation of what John Burns described as associated with the anteroom of Hell.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2456.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3", "colnum": "2465", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"That is what we are doing.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": "ould only be carried through by a national plebiscite. I want to say, concerning that, that if that principle is to be followed out, I do not see how some of the big proposals of the Labour party are to be carried through unless the same force is adopted..If they go to their constituents and advocate, and get support for advocating, the nationalisation of the land and of mines or industries&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3", "colnum": "2465", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"For the brewers! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": "ort a single man going on to the licensing bench to grant licences. Did we get the support of the temperance forces? No, we did not. The temperance men said \"No, you cannot do that,\" and the result was that the temperance man was particularly favoured by the brewers, who sought to secure men who were Good Templars to go on the bench. I know what I am speaking about. I am presenting the case&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3", "colnum": "2465", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They will get better beer!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": "se his vote and say, \"If you do not come up to my standard, I refuse to go down to yours. I shall proceed to operate in my constituency and get as many of the voters as I can.\" The temperance forces ought to put up prohibition candidates. That is what we are urging. That is what the Bill is being pressed for. It is to call on the temperance forces, and if they call on the Labour party to come out.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3", "colnum": "2465", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER \"Who said it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": ". MEMBER: \"They will get better beer!\"] If that satisfies those in the Labour club&#8212;the sort of club that Lord Younger was helping to finance&#8212;your Labour clubs are trash, and your Labour movement is absolutely futile. No man is going to stand up and talk about Socialism and the elevation of the people and at the same time suggest that he is concerned about getting beer for Labour clubs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3", "colnum": "2465", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They are sorry for it now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SCRYMGEOUR", "preceding_text": "e. How are these things to be met? Let us think. The United States is a very great commercial power, and it is undoubtedly true that the business forces of that country came in and helped to forward the demand that became the concentrated demand of the churches and temperance bodies, permeating the political forces, dictating to them, causing them to face the business that this thing must be done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2465.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2478.1", "colnum": "2478", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. SALTER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Does the hon. Member understand that in Paris there has been abolition of the drinking of absinthe?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. SALTER", "preceding_text": "elsewhere. I do not think anybody who has travelled, and who knows anything of Continental habits can dispute that picture. Anyone Who knows anything of Paris knows that in Parisian Society to-day this habit of taking narcotic drugs has grown to a terribly alarming extent, and the prevalence of the habit there cannot possibly be attributed to prohibition or to lack of facilities for getting drink.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2478.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2483.0", "colnum": "2483", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Sir ARTHUR HOLBROOK", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You must have been blind! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Sir ARTHUR HOLBROOK", "preceding_text": "England has been getting more sober for many years, and if you go about in any large town to-day. any industrial centre or any agricultural centre, I venture to say that the sight of a drunken man is an absolute rarity. I was in London on Armistice night, and I went through all the main thoroughfares and was about. the streets among the crowds for three or four hours. I saw only one. drunken roan.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2483.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2486.1", "colnum": "2486", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. HOLBROOK", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And some die from starvation.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. HOLBROOK", "preceding_text": " but I do not want to detain the House. I feel perfectly sure that hon. Members. will realise that while we deplore the fact that certain indi- viduals are not able to control themselves, and become so overwhelmed with drink that possibly they may die from it, if the medical faculties were appealed to, they would agree with me in saying that far more men die from overeating than from overdrinking.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2486.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2488.1", "colnum": "2488", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. HOLBROOK", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. HOLBROOK", "preceding_text": " had produced a great diminution of drunkenness. That is not the case at all. It is a well-known fact that there is more drunkenness in America to-day than ever there has been. I saw a statement by an eminent member of the English Church the other day to the effect that within the last few months, as a result of prohibition, 90 per cent. of the adult population of America were breakers of the law.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2488.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2513.3", "colnum": "2513", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir G. GAUNT", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Sir G. GAUNT", "preceding_text": "When I was in an American hotel during the last 18 months, I was sent a. good deal of whisky, with polite notices, in which the senders said, \"We know you will have a lot of people coming in to see you. We are terrified lest you will get something from one of the hotel servants. Do use this, it will be all right.\" When I left the hotel&#8212;the same maid looks after. me, always, over there&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2513.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2518.1", "colnum": "2518", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir G. GAUNT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir G. GAUNT", "preceding_text": "his thing. It would he hopeless to try and enforce this over here. I am only here to give some actual personal experiences on the troubles of prohibition in America. I quite realise that America is up against it. They have written the Eighteenth Amendment into the Constitution, and you apparently cannot blast it out with anything, but I believe they will get round it at no very distant date&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2518.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2526.0", "colnum": "2526", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What has that got to do with this country?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": "rrect representation of what is going on amongst that 100,000,000 people across the Atlantic is it possible that the American people are ignorant of it? Is it possible that two-thirds of their Members of Parliament are ignorant of these facts? Before the Prohibition Act was passed, over three-fourths of the American people were living under prohibition. Were all these people ignorant of the facts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2526.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2526.0", "colnum": "2526", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not fair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": " are warned that in examining applicants for insurance heavy drinkers should not be admitted. Two other life insurance societies started about 35 years ago to set apart the two categories of total abstainers and non-abstainers or moderate drinkers, and the result of their observations carried over the last 50 years is that the total abstainers have an advantage in life expectancy of 22.3 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2526.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-20", "file": "debates1923-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "2ded39e0e4f6522a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2530.0", "colnum": "2530", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIQUOR TRAFFIC PROHIBITION BILL.", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide! \"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-20a.2530.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.80.4", "colnum": "80", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "to the Income Tax payer to the extent of 1s. in the &#163; and to those who consume tea to the extent of 4d. in the lb.&#8212;and there are in this year's Budget provisions also for the relief of these two different classes of taxpayer. The relief to the indirect taxpayer on this occasion is granted in respect of beer, which is not an article of general consumption to the same extent as tea&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.80.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.93.0", "colnum": "93", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHARLETON", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHARLETON", "preceding_text": "ll convince the House what a serious thing it would be if an engine driver were to go to sleep on an express train. I can say quite seriously that I have been assisted in keeping awake and vigilant by using tea, because it must be remembered that railwaymen on night work, living in a working-class district, cannot sleep so peacefully as the average man would, say, in Mayfair or Brook Street&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.93.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.100.1", "colnum": "100", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": "uce the consumption of beer. Put a tax on beer and make it dearer, and people will consume less. That has been demonstrated during recent years, and more especially since the War. While there is a heavy tax on beer, there is a lessened consumption. Reduce the tax on beer, and you increase consumption. Take a man who is drinking beer in a saloon. He may drink that beer until all his wages are gone.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.100.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.106.1", "colnum": "106", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "and 3d. below &#163;500. The Conservative party, even in this, could not get away from the trammels of wealth, and, I presume from those who contribute heaviest to its exchequer at election time. As one goes up and down the country&#8212;and I will just say this practically last word to the Chancellor of the Exchequer&#8212;one must come to the conclusion that this Government cannot last too long.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.106.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.108.0", "colnum": "108", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HOGGE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What do they drink?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HOGGE", "preceding_text": "eer is a habit which we regard as effeminate. After all, this Government receives some little support from Scotland, although I admit it is not a very great deal. There is no part of the country where the Government receives less support than in Scotland, and their action recently has diminished that support very considerably. A reduction of the Beer Duty is no advantage to the people of Scotland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.108.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.125.1", "colnum": "125", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel GUEST", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel GUEST", "preceding_text": "ce upon the trade. I do not want to mention individual businesses, but it is very easy for hon. Members to look up the Stock Exchange list and see exactly what the companies have paid in the last few years. One company has paid 26 per cent. on the average in the last five years, and in addition they have been able to issue a bonus of 50 per cent. of common stock to the whole of their shareholders.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.125.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.125.1", "colnum": "125", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel GUEST", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel GUEST", "preceding_text": "s to look up the Stock Exchange list and see exactly what the companies have paid in the last few years. One company has paid 26 per cent. on the average in the last five years, and in addition they have been able to issue a bonus of 50 per cent. of common stock to the whole of their shareholders. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"] I will give the name privately, or if hon. Members desire I will give it now.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.125.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.137.0", "colnum": "137", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHARLES ROBERTS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHARLES ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "ons? Will he tell us whether that is right? If it be right, it is rather a serious matter for the country to consider. In bulk consumption it will bring us tolerably near to the pre-War standard. Hon. Members who are interested in beer may sing the praises of beer, but the fact remains that an increased consumption of that kind will undoubtedly be reflected in the increased figures of drunkenness.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.137.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.150.0", "colnum": "150", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": "ribution, but, surely, the logical result of that is that, as we have urged from this side of the House, the trade can afford, on its own showing, to make a further contribution of 4s. If that be the case, the Exchequer is making the trade a present of &#163;5,250,000 of the taxpayers' money. This is not in any sense an attack on the proposal to cheapen beer. I am only anxious to see beer cheaper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.150.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.153.0", "colnum": "153", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": "ren never concerned them. All that concerned them was: \"If we make a pledge to the trade we can depend upon the trade supporting us.\" They got that support, and they are now paying back, they think, the debt. The \"Brewers' Gazette\" estimates that if you have 1d. off beer you will have increased consumption up to 20 per cent. But then you will increase the amount of drunkenness by 20 per cent. too.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.153.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.153.0", "colnum": "153", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": "res I have quoted relating to the expected increase in the consumption of liquor? But it is a universal law that if you increase the facilities for getting beer you increase the amount consumed. Conversely, if you decrease the facilities for getting beer you decrease the amount consumed, and if you decrease the amount consumed you decrease the amount of drunkenness connected with that consumption.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.153.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.179.2", "colnum": "179", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. AMMON", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. AMMON", "preceding_text": "I am afraid I cannot answer the hon. Member on that particular point. What I am concerned about is the general condition of the industry as I know it, and this particular industry happens to be the only one in my constituency.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.179.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.185.0", "colnum": "185", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TURNER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And very good, too!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TURNER", "preceding_text": " wish to make a similar appeal to that which has been made by my hon. Friend the Member for East Ham South (Mr. Barnes). I come from a very old-fashioned county with old-fashioned ways. When I went to the mills 50 years ago, the mill lads went with their breakfast cans in their hands and their breakfast food under their arms, and the usual food at that time for a growing lad was a currant teacake.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.185.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.187.0", "colnum": "187", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": "e rich is fresh and very dear, the fruit diet of the poor is preserved fruit and should be cheap. I think there is some argument in the Amendment so ably moved and seconded in favour of this concession. Now that the hon. and gallant Gentleman the Parliamentary Secretary has learnt the lesson taught him the other night, that it is better to yield to argument and justice than to yield to riot&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.187.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6", "colnum": "190", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "preceding_text": "get. It relieves rich people in all directions, but it gives little or no relief to the poorest of the poor. It is all very well to turn up one's nose at 1&#189;d. per head of the population, but one has to consider that we have in this country a number of people whose poverty deepens from day to day. We make very small contributions at the present moment to the relief of the unemployed man&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6", "colnum": "190", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "preceding_text": " it gives little or no relief to the poorest of the poor. It is all very well to turn up one's nose at 1&#189;d. per head of the population, but one has to consider that we have in this country a number of people whose poverty deepens from day to day. We make very small contributions at the present moment to the relief of the unemployed man&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"]&#8212;in this present Budget.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6", "colnum": "190", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The biggest in the world.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "preceding_text": "oor. It is all very well to turn up one's nose at 1&#189;d. per head of the population, but one has to consider that we have in this country a number of people whose poverty deepens from day to day. We make very small contributions at the present moment to the relief of the unemployed man&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"]&#8212;in this present Budget. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"] I say they are inconsiderable.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6", "colnum": "190", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "preceding_text": "ider that we have in this country a number of people whose poverty deepens from day to day. We make very small contributions at the present moment to the relief of the unemployed man&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"]&#8212;in this present Budget. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"] I say they are inconsiderable. [An HON. MEMBER: \"The biggest in the world.\"] It does not matter. We are the richest country in the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6", "colnum": "190", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "preceding_text": "mber of people whose poverty deepens from day to day. We make very small contributions at the present moment to the relief of the unemployed man&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"]&#8212;in this present Budget. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"] I say they are inconsiderable. [An HON. MEMBER: \"The biggest in the world.\"] It does not matter. We are the richest country in the world. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"] We claim to be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.190.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.195.1", "colnum": "195", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "o be only for the duration of the War. The right hon. Gentleman who is now the Leader of the House (Mr. Bonar Law) said definitely, when the point was put to him, that duties of this kind should never be continued in any circumstances when the War was over. What the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Central Glasgow, as he then was, and as he now is, though with a somewhat reduced majority&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.195.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.195.1", "colnum": "195", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\" and \"Turkey!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "hat is germane to the question because in my opinion the action of the right hon. Gentleman in not taking off these duties was one of the reasons why his majority was reduced. We are going to press this Amendment to a Division, and I suggest that what is vital is that pledges of this kind, when they have been given, should be adhered to. It is now more than four years since the War was over&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.195.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.195.1", "colnum": "195", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "ent to a Division, and I suggest that what is vital is that pledges of this kind, when they have been given, should be adhered to. It is now more than four years since the War was over&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\" and \"Turkey!\"] I am not aware that the Turkish Empire was in question when these Duties were put on. It is more than four years since the War, to which the Duties referred, was over&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.195.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.205.1", "colnum": "205", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": " Hon Members opposite may believe that, and to the extent that they are deluded by the Members of the Cabinet, that is their affair, and not the responsibility of hon. Members on this side. At all events the House and the Country are entitled to reason and logic from the right hon. Gentleman. He may smile, he may submit facetious arguments and stories about doubtful ladies in Worcestershire&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.205.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.212.0", "colnum": "212", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. AUSTIN HOPKINSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. AUSTIN HOPKINSON", "preceding_text": "ctive duties than ordinary excess duties upon luxuries. So long as they are kept within the very close limits, within which they are kept at present; so long as the motor duty is only to be imposed on luxury cars of one sort or another and is not to be imposed on commercial vehicles, then so long is it possible for any convinced Free Trader in this House to vote for these duties and I shall do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.212.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.213.0", "colnum": "213", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide\" and \"Order\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "preceding_text": "When hon. Members on this side of the House ask the Government for money for social purposes&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.213.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.213.0", "colnum": "213", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide\" and interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "preceding_text": "t of production in America is so high, that they cannot produce and export cars. The \"Times Commercial Supplement\" of the other day, contained a statement to the effect that an American ropeworks company was opening works in this country, because they were unable to produce ropes in America&#8212;owing to the high tariff there upon imports&#8212;at a price at which they could sell in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.213.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.213.0", "colnum": "213", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "preceding_text": "s opening works in this country, because they were unable to produce ropes in America&#8212;owing to the high tariff there upon imports&#8212;at a price at which they could sell in this country. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide\" and interruption. ] That is Tory argument. I shall quote, again from the \"Times\" in connection with the statement made by the hon. Member for Coventry as regards the Fordney Tariff.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.213.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.215.1", "colnum": "215", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "preceding_text": "nk that the British merchant and trader is the biggest dunderhead who ever wore out shoe leather, and that we can only manage our business through departments of Overseas Trade and Trade Commissioners and that sort of thing, then it is high time we got back to the principal enunciated by Gladstone. I remember seeing a cartoon depicting a gentleman of rather Jewish appearance, with a top hat&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.215.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.216.1", "colnum": "216", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHAW", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Yes\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHAW", "preceding_text": "e time of war. Tell your farmers and your manufacturers that the first thing they have to do is to make their own work efficient, then come to the nation to ask for support. The argument that was used was that if this protection were withdrawn, all these thousands of men working in the motor industry would be stopped. Does any hon. or right hon. Member opposite believe that that statement is true?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.216.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.216.1", "colnum": "216", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHAW", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"America\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHAW", "preceding_text": "tor industry would be stopped. Does any hon. or right hon. Member opposite believe that that statement is true? [HON MEMBERS: \"Yes\".]&#8212;Then I have a great amount of admiration for the sincerity of hon. Members opposite, but very little admiration for their judgment. In my opinion, that belief is absolutely without foundation in fact. Who is the dangerous competitor in motors for this country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.216.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.216.1", "colnum": "216", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHAW", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Ford\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHAW", "preceding_text": "MBERS: \"Yes\".]&#8212;Then I have a great amount of admiration for the sincerity of hon. Members opposite, but very little admiration for their judgment. In my opinion, that belief is absolutely without foundation in fact. Who is the dangerous competitor in motors for this country? [HON. MEMBERS: \"America\".] America pays higher wages and pays more for materials. Why, then, can America undersell us?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.216.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.218.0", "colnum": "218", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. H. SPENCER", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. H. SPENCER", "preceding_text": "ainst French dress goods, I will at once buy &#163;250,000 worth of British yarn and make it into dress goods off which I will make 25 per cent. profit and I will pay thousands of pounds in Income Tax and Super-tax, and instead of careering about the country with my wife in a \"tin lizzie\" I will buy a Daimler motor car. All I want is the legislative right to rob the men and women of England&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.218.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.218.0", "colnum": "218", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. H. SPENCER", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. H. SPENCER", "preceding_text": "ench dress goods come in without a duty. The competition of hon. Member for Coventry is against America where the exchange is high, while the French exchange is low. Every argument the hon. Member for Coventry has used I can use in greater reason of right. The remedy is better organisation within the factory and my hon. Friends to my right must let me say it is a higher output among the men&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.218.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-23", "file": "debates1923-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "86d8ccc924133808", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.219.2", "colnum": "219", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; WAYS AND MEANS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPENCER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It was an insinuation!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPENCER", "preceding_text": "I never made such a statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-23a.219.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.280.2", "colnum": "280", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; POST OFFICE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Pringle.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that legal questions arise in relation to the determination of the contract, will the right hon. Gentleman put on the Committee somebody who is competent to deal with the legal issues?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.280.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.305.1", "colnum": "305", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "ort of his Measure. Therefore, what we have got to do to-day, if we are to get back to similar conditions, is not merely to reinstate the small builder who did most of the work, but also to restore, or, if we cannot restore, to replace, the financial machinery by which alone he is able to carry out his operations. What is the situation to-day? Private enterprise is beginning to function once more.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.305.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.305.1", "colnum": "305", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Working class houses?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": " we cannot restore, to replace, the financial machinery by which alone he is able to carry out his operations. What is the situation to-day? Private enterprise is beginning to function once more. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"] I am going to tell you where. I have been rather surprised to find how many houses have been built recently without any assistance from the State or from local authorities at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.305.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.308.0", "colnum": "308", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Space!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "nd it will be a lesson to me to try to exercise a little more reserve in future when I come to other Bills which may possibly be the subject of controversy. The House will have already seen that the word \"parlour\" does not appear in the Bill at all, and if it is desired by local authorities to meet the wishes of those who desire parlours there is nothing in the Bill to prevent them doing so&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.308.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.309.0", "colnum": "309", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "You are simply taunting us. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"] I am not going to sit and listen to this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.309.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.310.2", "colnum": "310", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "Have I got to listen to this? What does he mean by that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.310.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.310.3", "colnum": "310", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about height?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "On the first floor there is a bathroom and lavatory, 6 feet by 5 feet 10 inches; first bedroom, 11 feet 4&#189; inches by 13 feet 6&#189; inches; second bedroom, 12 feet 2&#189; inches by 9 feet 3&#189; inches; third bedroom, 10 feet 6 inches by 6 feet 10 inches.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.310.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.310.3", "colnum": "310", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": ". MEMBERS: \"What about height?\"] The height is not given, but these figures, at any rate, show that it is possible to build a house, within these dimensions, with a parlour included. No doubt hon. Members opposite will say that these rooms are very small, and that they want a house with larger rooms. It is suggested that the space should be increased from 850 feet to 900 feet or 950, or even more.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.310.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.344.1", "colnum": "344", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the 500,000 houses?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "A very large part of the promises were carried out. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] Certainly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.344.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.368.0", "colnum": "368", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir SAMUEL CHAPMAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We do not get a chance!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir SAMUEL CHAPMAN", "preceding_text": "The small and select band of Unionist Members for Scotland have not, I think, been very prominent in recent discussions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.368.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.368.0", "colnum": "368", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir SAMUEL CHAPMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir SAMUEL CHAPMAN", "preceding_text": "he often extends over these benches, that we have no sympathy on this question, and I was horrified to hear that the right hon. Gentleman who has introduced this Bill has also no sympathy. That is both unjust and ungenerous, and, coming from gentlemen, presumably of liberal minds, I do think it is anything but right judgment on their part. We on this side for generations have been keen on housing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.368.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.380.2", "colnum": "380", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Dead Sea fruit!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "king classes. We have tens of thousands of them all over the country that are desperate to get a home, there are no homes for them, and the Government come forward with this Bill. It is produced by an individual who is supposed to be the man of the moment. They have discovered someone who is going to be able to lead this Government out of the desert of Sinai and right into the plains of Palestine.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.380.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.390.4", "colnum": "390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. RAEBURN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"With 5 per cent. dividend!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. RAEBURN", "preceding_text": "d closely for years on the housing question, and I think that I do know something about it. Among other things, I have been chairman of a workman's dwelling company, which put up a series of buildings, not for the profit of those who invested their money, but to clear away slums and to enable the poorer workers in those places to have better houses than they could afford out of their meagre wages.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.390.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.396.0", "colnum": "396", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACPHERSON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Or even Dingwall!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACPHERSON", "preceding_text": "ew, they could not have had a clearer or more able exponent. As a Scottish Member I was astonished to find that from beginning to end of his speech there was not a single reference to Scotland. He talked with almost parental fluency of the consultations which he had had with the authorities. I heard Manchester, Birmingham, and Leeds mentioned, but not a word of Glasgow, Edinburgh, or Dundee&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.396.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.396.0", "colnum": "396", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACPHERSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They did not build houses!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACPHERSON", "preceding_text": "to suit English conditions. In 1919 we had separate arrangements for Scotland. At that time we had a Government with, at any rate, a good many Scottish Members in it, and we got certain arrangements for Scotland. At first the local Authorities thought they were not very good, but in the course of time the arrangements which were made for Scotland turned out to be good arrangements and worked well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.396.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.396.0", "colnum": "396", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACPHERSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We do not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACPHERSON", "preceding_text": "rked very well in the past, and there is a strong desire in the minds of each man who has fought his way in the industrial world, to own his house. I am delighted to think that the Minister has, in any case, advanced the sum of &#163;800 to &#163;1,200 or &#163;1,500. May I say in conclusion I am not an opponent of the Bill, If I were an English Member, I should regard it as a fairly good Measure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.396.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.399.0", "colnum": "399", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. HUTCHISON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. HUTCHISON", "preceding_text": " separate treatment; it is that if the Bill is carried through as it stands, without some alterations being made, you will be compelled to adopt a standard house for Scotland fixed on an English principle. Now standard things are not things that we seek. We know perfectly well that the great theory during the War was to have standard ships, but when the War was over no shipowner would accept them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.399.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.412.0", "colnum": "412", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That will not carry you far!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": "gigantic problem. The Addison schemes in England have produced less than 215,000 houses, and the cost to the State has not been &#163;28,000,000, but will amount to something like &#163;600,000,000. In the face of a divergence so great between theory and practice those of us who are lesser mortals than the Labour party will be content to move humbly, to go warily, and to feel our way step by step.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.412.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.412.0", "colnum": "412", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": ". Member, no doubt, with that zeal which so characterises him, desires us to make a frontal attack on the problem, and to solve with a great sweep the question which confronts us, not only in Scotland, but throughout the country. With that desire I am in heartiest sympathy, but to do that we should require to take much more drastic steps than have been contemplated in any previous housing schemes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.412.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.412.0", "colnum": "412", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Try us!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": "olve with a great sweep the question which confronts us, not only in Scotland, but throughout the country. With that desire I am in heartiest sympathy, but to do that we should require to take much more drastic steps than have been contemplated in any previous housing schemes. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"]&#8212;much more drastic than we could get assent for from any hon. Member on the other side.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.412.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-24", "file": "debates1923-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "c4dacd26c5692fa7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.414.7", "colnum": "414", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, ETC. (No. 2), BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"They ought not to be!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": "nd was being oppressed, and even gagged, under the procedure. The complaints of gagging have come not from the nationality which had only two representatives, but from the nationality which has had nine representatives. First and foremost, the justification for bringing these two Measures into the one Bill is that, except for one or two minor points, the provisions are the same for both countries.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-24a.414.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.458.0", "colnum": "458", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ROYAL NAVY.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": "Does the diocese of the Bishop of Gibraltar extend as far as the Balkan States?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.458.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.472.0", "colnum": "472", "heading": "WOMEN'S ENFRANCHISEMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel ARCHER-SHEE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel ARCHER-SHEE", "preceding_text": "3,000,000 more people were enfranchised. That was many years after the previous franchise reform. Five years is nothing in the history of a nation. Surely we ought to see how the women's vote is going to work before we rush forward and increase the number. Another great objection which I have to this Bill is that we ought to ask the existing voters whether they wish their stock to be watered down.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.472.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.521.0", "colnum": "521", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir PHILIP PILDITCH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"This is the Second Reading!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir PHILIP PILDITCH", "preceding_text": "The speech to which we have just listened from the right hon. Gentleman (Sir John Simon), and which has pleased the House&#8212;as do all his speeches&#8212;indicates that neither he nor the section of the Opposition, with which he is associated, propose to move an Amendment to the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.521.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.535.0", "colnum": "535", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McCURDY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And in England!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McCURDY", "preceding_text": "o me is a pro- found disappointment. The magnitude of the housing evil has been so eloquently expressed in the Debate, that I will not waste time in recapitulating it. The housing problem is one not only of appalling dimensions as it affects the poorest classes of the community. Some of the figures which have been quoted, with regard to conditions in Scotland, are really of a horrifying character.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.535.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.535.0", "colnum": "535", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McCURDY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You can see them now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McCURDY", "preceding_text": " stimulate the building industry. There are various ways of doing it. The policy which was unfortunately adopted was to try to find some other agency which could come to the assistance of the State on the assumption that private enterprise had failed. Before the War, of the houses which were provided for the working class 90 per cent. were provided by private enterprise by the speculative builder.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.535.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.535.0", "colnum": "535", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McCURDY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"100 per cent. slums.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McCURDY", "preceding_text": "12;some of them built by public utility societies, places like Letchworth built by private enterprise, and some by co-operative enterprise. Do not let us wander away into the quagmire of economic differences when we are discussing a simple but important issue like the housing problem. Ninety per cent. of the houses which were being provided before the War were being provided by private enterprise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.535.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.535.0", "colnum": "535", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McCURDY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, they are!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McCURDY", "preceding_text": "uilding, and that is the only client which the poor builders have to rely upon, we may take it that they will try to get the best terms for themselves from their one remaining client, the local authority. There is a good deal of nonsense talked about combines. I do not believe that at the present time the housing difficulties are necessarily much aggravated by the operations of rings and combines.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.535.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.545.0", "colnum": "545", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARCOURT JOHNSTONE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, it is not!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARCOURT JOHNSTONE", "preceding_text": "bine, with a view to exporting the whole of its production for use in America. That would shorten the market and raise the prices still further. There is, however, in Belgium, a market to which builders should be perfectly free to go for their cement. I understand from contractors that, though in a minor way Belgian cement does not come up to the British specification, it is in fact quite as good.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.545.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.550.0", "colnum": "550", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LORDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He did not say so\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LORDEN", "preceding_text": "I did not propose to deal with the question of rings and so forth until the end of my speech, but as the last speaker has referred to the subject and he thinks that every material bought out of England is better than the material which our British people produce&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.550.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.555.2", "colnum": "555", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LORDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Put it on the poor people!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LORDEN", "preceding_text": "at deal more for maintenance and upkeep than the rent they produce. Therefore, I think the wise policy of the Government will be to say to the people, and to the councils: \"Sell the houses at whatever price they will fetch.\" I believe that in the near future there will be such an increase in the cost of maintenance that it will be a great advantage to let the tenants have them at almost any price.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.555.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.555.2", "colnum": "555", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LORDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LORDEN", "preceding_text": "tirely for people who have a less income than &#163;5 a week. That will be a very serious state of affairs. I want to urge, that in Clause 5, Subsection (2, a ), the Minister should put in a definite percentage, and that it should not be more than 5 per cent. We have heard that the Scottish people have borrowed money at something like 3 per cent. or 3&#189; per cent., which made one's mouth water.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.555.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.555.2", "colnum": "555", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LORDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LORDEN", "preceding_text": "ery important point, which we ought to have cleared up in the Bill. There is no superficial extent mentioned in Sub-section (3), in regard to the &#163;1,500, and I take it that the house can be as large as the builder likes, provided that it does not cost more than &#163;1,500. I believe you would want at least 1,600 superficial feet to provide a residence with really comfortable and large rooms.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.555.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.565.1", "colnum": "565", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MARDY JONES", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MARDY JONES", "preceding_text": "nial period. He made the point in his speech that the average increase in the last decennial period was about 181,000 persons per year. Beyond that, he said nothing. We were left to assume that something similar would be the position in the coming 10 years, but I venture to say that the increase of population in the coming 10 years is likely to be far in excess of what it was in the last 10 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.565.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.599.5", "colnum": "599", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "ggeration, but, at any rate, there is a prejudice which is disadvantageous if you build such a house. At Leicester they have a certain style of house. In Glasgow there is an almost entirely different style of house. It is a problem whether the houses could be brought within the same superficial area at the same rate. I suppose you must go on in Glasgow with these tall houses in separate tenements.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.599.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.605.1", "colnum": "605", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"Speak up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "o remove the rent restrictions at the end of the period during which this Bill operates, what is the advantage of putting in the limitation of time? I want in the few minutes left to me to suggest to the House that now is the opportunity for the policy of the Labour party to be put forward in this matter. I would like, if I may, to speak of the programme of the Labour party with regard to housing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.605.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.605.1", "colnum": "605", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "ionalisation we want the Central Government to do everything. That is not the case. We rely very much more on the local authorities, but we do want the co-operation of the Central Government in order to give a stimulus to the local authority, and we want it for another reason. We want to equalise the burden to some extent among local authorities. You have to give the local authorities a free hand.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.605.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.605.1", "colnum": "605", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "extending over a period of 15 to 20 years. We should provide for a sufficient recruitment of labour in the building trades, giving the necessary guarantees for the continuous employment of that labour, and we should provide a grant-in-aid adequate to induce the local authorities to take action in this matter. Only in that way do we think you can adequately cope with and solve the housing problems.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.605.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.610.1", "colnum": "610", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WEBB", "preceding_text": "If the House does not desire to hear me and signifies that it does not desire to hear me, I shall sit down.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.610.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.613.1", "colnum": "613", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "I do not want to get into controversy as to who is responsible. It is not because I am afraid of the problem, but because I do not think it is helpful to discuss it at this moment. The problem we have to deal with is not why there is not enough skilled labour, but how we are to get houses now when labour is scarce?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.613.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.614.6", "colnum": "614", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"By the building speculator?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": " the actual average cost was less than &#163;200 an acre. There are to-day 20,000 acres which have been acquired by local authorities, and one of the methods which we hoped they will largely use in forwarding these housing schemes will be to put in that land at a cheap rate, so as to have the land available at once, partially developed as it is, for the provision of houses in the very near future.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.614.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.614.6", "colnum": "614", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speculators!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "clear. The plan we are suggesting is a subsidy which the State gives to the local authority, and the local authority where it can finds a private builder hands it on, with assistance from itself. The method which we suggest as a method of largely accelerating the building of houses will be for the local authority to pass on the land at a cheap rate to the builder and by that means give assistance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.614.6"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.618.5", "colnum": "618", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Name him!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": "And the Speaker's House next.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.618.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.620.1", "colnum": "620", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ten by six!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": " to have plans put up in the smoking room, which will show the houses which were actually being erected before this Bill was drafted, which are being erected, and which have been erected, and which comply with the provisions of this Section. Hon. Members, therefore, will be able to judge for themselves whether or not these are houses which anybody might quite fairly say are decent and respectable.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.620.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.621.4", "colnum": "621", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\" and \"Sit down!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "Did you hear what an hon. Member opposite said?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.621.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-25", "file": "debates1923-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "5fd610018e9ce7f1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.622.6", "colnum": "622", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\" and \"Name!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "If I had heard an expression of that kind, I should have said it was grossly out of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-25a.622.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-26", "file": "debates1923-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "9a25a75c9497de3f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-26a.650.4", "colnum": "650", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "Is it not a fact that, in putting these questions to the right hon. Gentleman, what has been asked has always been whether a man in receipt of an adequate pension should also draw a salary while men in receipt of no pension cannot get any work The Minister is entirely misrepresenting what I said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-26a.650.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-27", "file": "debates1923-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "f493c8ede1054dea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-27a.889.4", "colnum": "889", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PREVENTION OF UNEMPLOYMENT BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BOWYER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A retaining fee.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BOWYER", "preceding_text": " work be not forthcoming&#8212;and I submit that suitable work will not, in three cases out of four, be forthcoming&#8212;then you are going to pay, in maintenance, at the trade union rate. Here I quote in assistance the speech of the hon. Gentleman who seconded the Bill. In addition to the man's maintenance, you will pay such maintenance for the wife and family as the medical officer may suggest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-27a.889.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-27", "file": "debates1923-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "f493c8ede1054dea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-27a.915.1", "colnum": "915", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PREVENTION OF UNEMPLOYMENT BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HOHLER", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HOHLER", "preceding_text": "stant point? What is to be the nature of the scheme? Let us have some thought on this subject, and do not let us say that, simply because there is something here in print, it must be good. One knows that uneducated or ill-educated people believe that that which they see in print in the Press must be right, and it is not until they find that they do not always tell you what is quite accurate&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-27a.915.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-27", "file": "debates1923-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "f493c8ede1054dea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-27a.925.1", "colnum": "925", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PREVENTION OF UNEMPLOYMENT BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. BARLOW", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hell is paved with good intentions.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. BARLOW", "preceding_text": "when we come down to the actual programme it embodies almost exactly what the Government programme embodies. That is the real difficulty. Those who are honest in this matter know that with the best intentions in the world&#8212;and I do not for a moment claim for myself, or for those on this side of the House, any better intention in the matter than that which animates hon. Members opposite&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-27a.925.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.972.5", "colnum": "972", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; WEMBLEY STADIUM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nobody said that.'\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "If the crowd was entirely good-humoured, and the police arrangements were quite perfect&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.972.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.973.1", "colnum": "973", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; WEMBLEY STADIUM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\" and \"Sit down!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "May I&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.973.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.973.5", "colnum": "973", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; WEMBLEY STADIUM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir. May I make it clear that my question was not in any sense a reflection upon the police who were present&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.973.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.973.6", "colnum": "973", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; WEMBLEY STADIUM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member's question asks \"the reasons for the defective police arrangements.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.973.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1021.1", "colnum": "1021", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LOCAL AUTHORITIES (EMERGENCY PROVISIONS) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": "the suggestion of the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Greenock (Sir G. Collins), who suggested that the funds of the Unemployment Insurance Act should be earmarked for the relief of some necessitious areas. He will realise the difficulty of using insurance money, money which is not a dole, but a right of the insured person, for supplementing funds for the relief of unemployment in other areas.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1021.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1032.0", "colnum": "1032", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MILLAR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Home Rule for England.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MILLAR", "preceding_text": "atter in Scotland, with whom I have no doubt my hon. and gallant Friend will also have to discuss the matter later on. The result is simply going to be that in Scotland we shall not get the houses. It is cheese-paring policy; it is a foolish policy. I am perfectly certain I carry with me the views of the hon. Members who represent Scotland when I say that the question of housing is a national one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1032.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1044.2", "colnum": "1044", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Join up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. CHAPPLE", "preceding_text": "h Grand Committee might be a source of danger or anxiety. Has Scotland to suffer because Glasgow has sent a few wild men down to Parliament? Is the system of using Scotsmen to get through Scottish Measures and to supply the needs of Scotland to go by the board because there are in the House a few Labour Members of whom hon. Gentlemen opposite are afraid? We on these benches are not afraid of them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1044.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1050.1", "colnum": "1050", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Can no good come out of Edinburgh?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": "o deal with that very point, but it is no argument to the English Members of the Committee to say that the opinion of the hon. and learned Member for East Fife is supported by an eminent housing expert in Edinburgh. I wish to emphasise and to reiterate this paint. It is very difficult for me to come forward to the English Treasury and press this claim when it is only supported by another Scotsman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1050.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1056.0", "colnum": "1056", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MUIR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MUIR", "preceding_text": "We are considering a Rent Bill for England and Scotland. In Scotland the rates are paid on the full rent, whereas in England&#8212;I do not know if the custom is universal, but it is a widespread custom, at any rate&#8212;the rates are not paid on the true rent, but on a percentage of rent ranging from one-half down to one-third.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1056.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1056.2", "colnum": "1056", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FALCONER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Capitalise the sum.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FALCONER", "preceding_text": "ses at the end of 20 years when the cost of repairs has increased, and the yield of the rental will probably be reduced. They have to make that calculation, and they say&#8212;and from what little experience I have had in connection with the housing business I agree&#8212;that they will be very unwilling to face the loss involved and to take the responsibility for their community providing for it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1056.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1056.2", "colnum": "1056", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FALCONER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FALCONER", "preceding_text": "order that some other way may be devised. I listened with great attention to the arguments addressed to the House on the question of a sparate Scottish Bill. I am quite unable to see any difficulty in doing as has been done over and over again, of having a separate Bill, and sending it to Scottish Grand Committee. That does not mean that a Grand Committee is to be set up in every part of Scotland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1056.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1060.2", "colnum": "1060", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FALCONER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FALCONER", "preceding_text": "I did not say, \"How will you get them?\" I said: \"You will not get houses under this scheme.\" I expressly disclaimed any desire for preferential treatment, and said that was a subordinate and secondary question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1060.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1060.3", "colnum": "1060", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. CRAIK", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. CRAIK", "preceding_text": "their country, would not use that as an argument, would, indeed, disdain to use such an argument on the part of Scotland in the British House of Commons. The hon. Member opposite taunted my hon. and gallant Friend with driving as hard a bargain as he could get in these terms for Scotland. For 20 years as head of the Scottish Department I did everything I could to get the best terms for my country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1060.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1096.1", "colnum": "1096", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": " next question is whether that flat rate is sufficient. It clearly cannot be quite advantageous for every authority because ex hypothesi the conditions do vary. We have got to strike a sort of balance. A great deal of the&#8212;well, I will not say criticism&#8212;but of comment has been upon the fact that a bargain, as it is called, had been struck with only a certain number of local authorities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1096.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1097.1", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So they are.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "al areas, and the rural areas. It would, I think, be perfectly preposterous to suggest that every time any kind of subsidy is handed out from the Exchequer we should examine what are the rates in every particular locality, and, if they are extra there, fix the subsidy accordingly. That does not seem to me to be the way to go about it. These particular industrial areas are termed necessitous areas.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1097.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1111.1", "colnum": "1111", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARRIS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The age of a house!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARRIS", "preceding_text": "ng charged for the municipal house. For that reason, the only practicable scheme to make this Bill workable from a financial point of view is for the Government to guarantee to the local authorities a loss, whether &#163;6 or more, for the whole of the loan period. Twenty years is an entirely fictitious figure, selected, for some reason we have never been able to fathom, by the Minister of Health.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1111.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1128.2", "colnum": "1128", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": " built and the estimate then given of the capital liability of the State was &#163;10,000,000. It is interesting, therefore, to recollect, in relation to that estimate, what has exactly happened in respect to the building of houses and the liability of the State. Something like 200,000 houses have been provided&#8212;less than half the number anticipated&#8212;and the liability of the State&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1128.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1130.1", "colnum": "1130", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "f the Addison scheme, we have it clearly before us that subsidies are not going to solve this problem, but are only going to be a means of enabling the profiteers of all classes to plunder the public. This is a new substitute for the doctrine of tranquillity. We read of A little more sleep, a little more slumber. The Government's policy on housing is: A little more loot, and a little more plunder.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1130.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1132.3", "colnum": "1132", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"25s.!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "preceding_text": "al area on a subsidy from the State of &#163;6 for 20 years which, we ought to remember, is only equivalent to &#163;4 for the 60 years for which the loan would run, plus a subsidy not exceeding &#163;5 from the local authority. It is purely illusory to think that houses will be built in rural areas upon those conditions. What can a labourer, with 26s. or 28s. a week, pay by way of rent and rates?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1132.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1134.1", "colnum": "1134", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. WORTHINGTON-EVANS", "preceding_text": "ave reduced, not his willingness, but his means, and the duty hitherto fulfilled by the landowner must fall upon someone else. Houses built in the past are not sufficient to-day for the country side, and frequently they are not up to the standard of comfort that, a man has the right to expect. They must be replaced by some one. By whom? You cannot ask the farmer to do it; he has no means to do it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1134.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1137.1", "colnum": "1137", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And labour.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "preceding_text": " extent of his wealth. If the Government really intended to grapple with this housing question, instead of coming forward at this moment with talk of subsidies, the heaviest part of which will really have to be borne by the localities themselves, they would take their courage in their hands, and take control of all the building material in the country, and the sources of all the building material.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1137.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1137.1", "colnum": "1137", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You will not let ex-service men work.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "preceding_text": "localities themselves, they would take their courage in their hands, and take control of all the building material in the country, and the sources of all the building material. [An HON. MEMBER: \"And labour.\"] Labour as well, I quite agree, if the Government will also, in taking control of labour, see to it that many of those in the West End of London who are not doing useful work are put to do it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1137.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-04-30", "file": "debates1923-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "f7b7e2bb67ed7c26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1138.0", "colnum": "1138", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, Etc. (No. 2) [MONEY].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "preceding_text": "Hon. Members opposite drew me away from the point. I hope they will have patience, because I have only one or two more pearls to cast before them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-04-30a.1138.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1167.1", "colnum": "1167", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT (ACCESS TO SUBWAY).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. and gallant Gentleman aware that one hon. Member at least had considerable difficulty in persuading the police that he was a Member of Parliament?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1167.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1177.4", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Speech!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": "Is there any reason at all why information which can be divulged to a private Member cannot be disclosed to this House? Surely it is in the interest of the Government itself that information asked for&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1177.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1177.9", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "We are not a trade union.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. THORNE", "preceding_text": "I would like to ask, Mr. Speaker, whether you have any power to make Ministers do what they are asked to do, in consequence of huge sums of public money being involved?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1177.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1186.7", "colnum": "1186", "heading": "INSTRUCTIONS TO COMMITTEES.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LEES SMITH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Speak up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LEES SMITH", "preceding_text": "May I ask you, Mr. Speaker, to give a ruling and perhaps some advice&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1186.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1236.1", "colnum": "1236", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Captain HAY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain HAY", "preceding_text": "f we are justified in spending this money. The Minister of Health can only spare &#163;6 per house for 20 years as a bonus on house building, and we are prepared to throw away &#163;10,000,000, much of which will find its bed in the mudswamps of the harbour of Singapore. We are going to spend our money on buildings and garrisons in that pestilential and immoral cesspool, for what and against whom?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1236.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1243.0", "colnum": "1243", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Captain Viscount CURZON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Or be destroyed!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Viscount CURZON", "preceding_text": " a hostile fleet is attacking India, or taking possession of Australia or New Zealand? Surely the right hon. Gentleman would not have tolerated that when he was at the Admiralty. He would do what any Board of Admiralty do, whether Conservative, Liberal or Labour. I am perfectly certain they would all do the same thing. They would send a British fleet to seek out the hostile fleet and destroy them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1243.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1258.0", "colnum": "1258", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": "are so much in excess of the labour costs of production in this Eastern quarter. There are such enormous interests to protect. Within a radius of 1,000 to 1,500 miles of Singapore you have what is virtually one of the richest regions in the world. It is because of the tremendous financial interests of hon. Members on the opposite side of the House, and particularly below the gangway as well&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1258.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1258.0", "colnum": "1258", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": "en for the last 30 or 40 years deliberately, conscientiously, and consciously to serve the interests of a certain gang of people who are always powerfully entrenched and whose representatives can be seen wandering in and out, backwards and forwards, through the corridors of the Admiralty whenever you like to look inside; and who are represented in very great numbers on the other side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1258.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1284.0", "colnum": "1284", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Major Sir BERTRAM FALLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS\" Agreed!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Sir BERTRAM FALLE", "preceding_text": "is country they become immediately ineligible for the amount, and, although the sum is not a large one, it is frequently sufficient to keep a family together. Then they consider that at the age of 60 they ought to be given that sum, whatever it is, without any further trouble, and they also think the limitation of their means to &#163;150 if unmarried, and &#163;200 if married, is a little unfair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1284.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1310.1", "colnum": "1310", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NICHOL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NICHOL", "preceding_text": "came as a surprise to me, because the hon. Member obviously was familiar with golf courses in Scotland. The characteristic distinction between Turnberry as a commercial venture and an inland course such as Gleneagles is that Turnberry is available for 12 months in the year, and Gleneagles, on account of the climate and the soil, cannot be available for more than four or five months at the outside.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1310.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1314.1", "colnum": "1314", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Working people!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "d be foolish to stop now, in the midst of the scheme, and so waste the whole of your previous expenditure. That is my main point. I think now it has gone so far that it would be wrong to stop it without full development. For my part, I disagree with my hon. Friends. After all, the golf course is open more than five months of the year. I have watched working people go there at any time of the year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1314.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1315.2", "colnum": "1315", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": " him to be a very conclusive reason and that, I think, is a miraculous and extraordinary conversion for an experienced politician of his years to make. Another extraordinary reason adduced to-night in support of this Bill was by the hon. Member for Erdington (Sir A. Steel-Maitland) who said that the railway companies ought to know their business better than their critics on this side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1315.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1317.0", "colnum": "1317", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Captain TERRELL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain TERRELL", "preceding_text": " thing. I would like to see more enterprise shown by railway companies in this country in the direction of catering for any sport so as to get extra revenue. I also support this Bill because I presume it is finding work for some people who otherwise would be out of employment. We have been told by the right hon. Member for Derby (Mr. Thomas) that altogether 1,000 people are employed at Gleneagles.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1317.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1318.0", "colnum": "1318", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Captain HAY", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Captain HAY", "preceding_text": "one place to another. I used one half of the ticket on the day of purchase, spent a day at this place and proceeded to make the return journey with the return half of the ticket on the third day, only to be told that it was no good. I put it to any reasonable, fair-minded man that I should have been warned on buying the ticket that I must, so to speak, consume the ticket within a fixed time&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1318.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1322.0", "colnum": "1322", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir CHARLES BARRIE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir CHARLES BARRIE", "preceding_text": "After the humorous after-dinner speech to which we have just listened&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1322.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1323.0", "colnum": "1323", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": "I rise to oppose this Bill, and I would like to call attention to several cases of lack of facilities, which, I think, the Caledonian Railway Company had much better have supplied before endeavouring to waste money in the wilderness of Perthshire.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1323.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1323.0", "colnum": "1323", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": "railway servants in the northern part of the borough of Motherwell. That is a much more necessary thing than to provide for the well-to-do people who proceed from Glasgow and Edinburgh to Gleneagles. They are rarely, I think, seen making their way to Gleneagles. There are in the industrial areas of Scotland, those people who are engaged in producing the wealth that has made Lanarkshire what it is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1323.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-01", "file": "debates1923-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "89105db329bb70e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1325.1", "colnum": "1325", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": " seen&#8212;no, not even in Russia after many years of war&#8212;anything that is so backward as some of the rolling-stock provided by the Caledonian Railway Company. Therefore, I would suggest that we should give to the Caledonian Railway Company tonight a lesson which would teach them for the future that before they provide facilities for those people who are not usually employed on useful work.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-01a.1325.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1370.1", "colnum": "1370", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "il, and before the Poplar Council the Poplar District Board of Works, has been representing to the central authorities these areas, and that as long ago as 1920 ten areas were represented to the London County Council, and two years ago the right hon. Gentleman's own Department held an inquiry, and not a single one of these areas has been dealt with, and children, women and men are suffering&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1370.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1376.4", "colnum": "1376", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GRAY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GRAY", "preceding_text": "May I have a reply to my question?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1376.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1441.0", "colnum": "1441", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What were you doing there?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. MOND", "preceding_text": "ng to do. The \"Pall Mall Gazette\" explained another policy, and it seems rather curious that we cannot be told now until after Whitsuntide, and that the tenants in this country are not to know, what are the secrets locked up in the mystery box of this Bill, when at one time we had a kind of kaleidoscope of proposals which rivalled the electric signs which we see at night time in Piccadilly Circus.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1441.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1443.1", "colnum": "1443", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "e us extraordinary powers, practically without discussion of any kind, or a lot of people in the country will be subjected to the greatest suffering and misery.\" The right hon. Gentleman, having got himself and this House into this position, has the audacity to get up and say that anyone who ventures to comment on it is guilty of obstruction. Even in the long and sad history of recent years&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1443.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1444.0", "colnum": "1444", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "Give us some meat!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "ad history of recent years&#8212;[HON. MEEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"] Hon. Members often see fit to contribute to our discussions a series of well-reasoned cat-calls, which they undoubtedly find the most appropriate means of communicating their opinions. Far be it from me to object to these monosyllabic interjections of the otherwise inarticulate. I will not pursue them into that intricate line of argument.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1443.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1458.1", "colnum": "1458", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": " per house will be greater than in the town and the burden on the local authority will be less. As a result, of course, there would be a less number of houses to the population, than in the town. I think there is more commonsense in that suggestion than hon. Members opposite pretend to see, because the urgency of finding houses for the people to live in is greater in the towns than in the country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1458.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1484.0", "colnum": "1484", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. LAMBERT", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. LAMBERT", "preceding_text": "would be no necessity for selling these sites which have been bought at a considerable price. I would point out that in giving this subsidy you really are forcing up the price of building in the rural districts. It is the inevitable result of any Government subsidy that up goes the price. Whenever the State engages in enterprise, if it ever has any enterprise at all, which I doubt very much&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1484.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1517.0", "colnum": "1517", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major YERBURGH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major YERBURGH", "preceding_text": "n some people, so the habit of putting off the commencing of speaking in this House will grow too. In the second place, I was not given very much notice of being required for the work of seconding this Motion; but I will say this, the hon. Member who asked me said that it would be sufficient if I just got up and formally seconded the Motion. I have, however, a certain amount of Scotch in me&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1517.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1536.0", "colnum": "1536", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the ADMIRALTY (Commander Eyres-Monsell)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the ADMIRALTY (Commander Eyres-Monsell)", "preceding_text": "ave obtained for them the most generous terms that we could obtain. When I was in the Navy I was brought up to the idea that a little cherub sits up aloft, and looks after the destiny of all of us at sea. The idea of this invisible and benign being was a very comforting one. But when I became a Member of Parliament I received three distinct shocks. The first was when I saw this cherub materialise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1536.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1542.4", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. EMLYN-JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. EMLYN-JONES", "preceding_text": " the people, and surely there cannot be any injustice in a system which lays down as a cardinal principle that the value attaching to land, as exemplified by the price asked for it when it is required for housing sites, should be the value upon which the owners should pay their contribution to local taxation. Can it be said that the owners of the land have done anything to improve the value of it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1542.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1542.4", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. EMLYN-JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. EMLYN-JONES", "preceding_text": "justified the expectations that were held in regard to it. In all of the large towns and cities west of Manitoba, by far the largest proportion of the rate revenue is derived from a tax upon the site value of the land. There is no time to-night, unfortunately, to deal with all the popular arguments against this principle. Its opponents refer to the failure of the land duties in the Budget of 1910.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1542.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1562.0", "colnum": "1562", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHARLES ROBERTS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHARLES ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "I desire&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1562.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1564.1", "colnum": "1564", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Some local authorities!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT", "preceding_text": "saying that they would be unable to operate this scheme, have begged us to co-operate with them on a 50&#8211;50 basis as far as possible. We have got ahead with this scheme, and, not merely in the great cities, but as far north as Kirkwall and running down to the south to small authorities like Easter Anstruther, we have been able to secure the whole-hearted co-operation of the local authorities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1564.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-02", "file": "debates1923-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5c660ccc3f0eaa06", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1570.0", "colnum": "1570", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INCREASE OF RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS (CONTINUANCE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. THOMSON", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. THOMSON", "preceding_text": "Just one question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-02a.1570.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1659.0", "colnum": "1659", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MAXTON", "preceding_text": " his somewhat belated intervention in the proceedings on this Bill, considering the interest that has been taken in it in his own constituency and in neighbouring constituencies in Glasgow. All along from the Labour Benches we have asked the Government to consider, not the minutiae of the matter, but the equity of the case, and the equity of the case, we hold, was propounded by the House of Lords.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1659.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1663.0", "colnum": "1663", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. HORNE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Then vote against it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. HORNE", "preceding_text": "The Bill does not go far enough. That is my abjection.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1663.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1666.1", "colnum": "1666", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. WOOD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. WOOD", "preceding_text": "ng the reasonable sums they have expended. My complaint against the Bill is not that of hon. Members opposite at all. They are to be highly congratulated on the terms of the Bill. I think it is very unfair, in many respects, to the landlords of this country, but I am not going to vote against the Bill for the same reason as that given by my right hon. Friend the Member for Hillhead (Sir R. Horne).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1666.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1678.0", "colnum": "1678", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"King of Scotland!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "it. They are not able to pay the current rent, let alone paying retrospective rent, and you are running the risk, a very serious risk, of the law being defied. What is the use of you making laws with which the people for whom you are making them are not able to comply? You are flying in the face of fate in performing in that fashion, and you have to remember this, that my people in Scotland&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1678.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1678.0", "colnum": "1678", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "sleep that he will lose. The Premier has gone. There are others going the same way. We have been sent here to defend our people, and we are going to defend them. We on these benches are the men who to day are standing by the constitution of our country. I say to the Attorney-General, \"Thou art the man.\" He is defying all Government. He is trying to legislate against the constitution of my country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1678.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1681.2", "colnum": "1681", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "ect touch with the sheriffs of Glasgow to obtain for himself all the details that were necessary in order that he might know the thorny path he had set about to tread. We come here and appeal to the Government to accept this Amendment, because if they do not, then it means that our people will defy the law, and I shall be one of those who will advise them to defy the law. I have done it all along.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1681.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1689.1", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "decided in another Parliament by men holding other views, and who have other objects in their mind. They will say that when the Court of this land decided once in favour of that power you interfered with what had been adjudicated upon by the highest Court in the land; they will follow your example and will bear that precedent in mind when they are legislating also for the disinheritance of people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1689.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1695.1", "colnum": "1695", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": " moneys he should be able to recover them. In other words, Parliament altered retrospectively the rights of tenants against landlords. I think Parliament was probably quite right in doing that. I am not concerned to challenge their wisdom. I am mentioning it because I am challenged to produce an instance of retrospective legislation and that is a very obvious one which is quite ready to our hands.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1695.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1697.1", "colnum": "1697", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "Lord Dunedin, who for many years sat as a Scottish judge, was President in Scotland and is now one of our most valued judicial Members of the House of Lords, was one of the dissenting judges. I should have thought Lord Dunedin was as good a Scotsman as the hon. Member could desire.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1697.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1700.2", "colnum": "1700", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Read it!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "ntleman suggested was that if a tenant could not pay these instalments and was brought before the sheriff or the County Court judge the sheriff or County Court judge has no option but to turn him out. I want to reassure the hon. Member about that. That is not the law, and if he will read Section 5, Sub-section (2), of the principal Act, which is incorporated in the present Bill, he will see&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1700.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1711.1", "colnum": "1711", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": " in a better position than any other tenant, because there are no arrears to be collected. Therefore, the effect, so far as colliery houses are concerned, will be merely this&#8212;that the miner will go on in future paying the same rent as he has been paying in the past. He will not have to add to his payments a weekly sum by way of instalment for arrears, because there are no arrears to be paid.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1711.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1761.0", "colnum": "1761", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FAIRBAIRN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What corporation is that?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FAIRBAIRN", "preceding_text": " of the condition of the houses, and their certificate, when given, ought to be effective, without the tenant having to go to the County Court with it. I urge this in the name of my corporation, and I want to join in the appeal to the Attorney-General. This is not a political or a party matter. My corporation is a Tory corporation of the Toriest, but I am speaking here on behalf of my corporation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1761.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1764.1", "colnum": "1764", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "tion&#8212;whether or not we cannot give power to the Small Debt- Court to give a certificate and thereby save the expense to which he has referred. When, however, he goes on further to suggest, as he does by the Amendment, that if the tenant goes to the sanitary authority and that authority gives a certificate that that shall ipso facto prevent the landlord from ever getting any increase of rent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1764.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1765.3", "colnum": "1765", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "I think I was quite accurate in what I was saying&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"]&#8212;that the effect of the Amendment would be this, that the tenant applies to the sanitary authority, and if the sanitary authority issues the certificate ipso facto, the very fact of its issue prevents the landlord from recovering his increased rent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1765.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1765.5", "colnum": "1765", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "if the tenant applies to the sanitary authority and the tenant gets a certificate which would ipso facto suspend the right of the landlord to recover any increase of rent, and the landlord would then never be able to get any increase of rent until he had made an application to the County Court and satisfied the County Court that the grounds on which the certificate was granted had ceased to exist.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1765.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1774.0", "colnum": "1774", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, cattle!\" and \"Give him a chance.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "ch is about the second in size, and the first in importance. What occurs is that all your sanitary authorities insist on is not decorations at all, but that the place shall be reasonably fit for people to live in. It does not include decorations or even painting. Take the case of a farmer with a byre for keeping cattle in. All that is insisted on there is that the place shall be well white-washed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1774.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1774.0", "colnum": "1774", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": " place shall be reasonably fit for people to live in. It does not include decorations or even painting. Take the case of a farmer with a byre for keeping cattle in. All that is insisted on there is that the place shall be well white-washed. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, cattle!\" and \"Give him a chance.\"] The hon. Member does not give anybody a chance; he is too prejudiced. His interest is too much at stake.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1774.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1774.0", "colnum": "1774", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "ost, if this Amendment were carried, might be only &#163;5, yet the man who has a perfectly legitimate grievance may be run into costs reaching &#163;20. The result is that you pay to the landlords every time. It is no use appealing to you. It is no use appealing to certain people; there are vested interests; the money interest is so strong; and to the last speaker that applies particularly&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1774.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1776.0", "colnum": "1776", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WILLIAM HUTCHISON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Anything but your Friends!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WILLIAM HUTCHISON", "preceding_text": "t the question was taken up, and the Sheriff Principal of Renfrewshire, in the case of Weston against Morris, held that until the landlord executed all repairs which had on the evidence been found necessary, he would not be entitled to a single penny of rent. If the original rent is not payable in such circumstances, how much less is the increase of rent payable? If my hon. Friends opposite&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1776.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-03", "file": "debates1923-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "d069a2bc974be8cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1786.1", "colnum": "1786", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "I am going to ask the House to accept this Amendment&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-03a.1786.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1927.15", "colnum": "1927", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "l not be in sympathy with the local people, because they will be strangers and not trained police. They will not, therefore, I am afraid, take the careful attitude that we expect of the trained police in all cases of civil disorder. Those are my reasons&#8212;at any rate, my first reasons&#8212;for moving this new Clause, and I hope that they are sufficient to show that it is absolutely necessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1927.15"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1960.2", "colnum": "1960", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HAYES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HAYES", "preceding_text": ", it is necessary that order should be restored at the earliest possible moment. But there is a bounden and inherent duty by common law and statute law, upon all citizens to maintain order amongst them- selves. I cannot see the necessity for importing special constables into a locality to preserve order among people whose duty it is, by the common law and statute law, to preserve order themselves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1960.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1960.2", "colnum": "1960", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HAYES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HAYES", "preceding_text": " under a grievance into channels of peacefulness by employing outside people. The principle of the Bill, unfortunately, is not likely to help the tranquillity of the community. What it will do is to assist&#8212;I do not say that it is the intention of the right hon. Gentleman, but I know how the Bill will operate in practice&#8212;the bad employer in bringing about wage reduction movements&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1960.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1964.1", "colnum": "1964", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARMSWORTH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARMSWORTH", "preceding_text": "f a town should look after the preservation of order in its own district without any help from outside. Taking the question as a whole, there are very few arguments against the Bill. The Amendment would mean that if there were a disturbance in Liverpool and the rioters got the better of the local police, the Government would be unable to send police to Liverpool from any other part of the country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1964.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1965.0", "colnum": "1965", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "y should the necessity arise. We object to the use of special constables in that way, and the reason for our objection is perfectly simple. It must be obvious to every Member of the House&#8212;and, if not, it will be very soon after the formation of this body&#8212;that nine out every ten, nay almost 99 out of every hundred, who join the special constabulary will be men who are opposed to Labour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1965.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1965.0", "colnum": "1965", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "f this body&#8212;that nine out every ten, nay almost 99 out of every hundred, who join the special constabulary will be men who are opposed to Labour. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] That really must be understood before hon. Members can under- our opposition to the Bill. You are selecting from the community those people who will be hostile to Labour, and you are ruling out absolutely all trade unionists.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1965.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1967.2", "colnum": "1967", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. REMNANT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. REMNANT", "preceding_text": "he country where they were wanted, and even to-day we cannot do it properly. When I say \"we,\" I mean the country generally. We wish we could make the police a more movable body, and make it easier to employ particular forces where they are wanted. The hon. Gentleman remarked that the Liverpool people did net mind being knocked about by their own police, but strongly objected to outsiders doing so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1967.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1982.4", "colnum": "1982", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. AUSTIN HOPKINSON", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. AUSTIN HOPKINSON", "preceding_text": " an extraordinary misapprehension of the intentions of this Bill and particularly as to the refusal of the Government to accept the Amendment. In the case, for example, of a dispute between myself and my men, do hon. Members of the Labour party really believe that if I applied in such a dispute for the use of special constables to break the strike among my men, that my request would be acceded to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1982.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1982.4", "colnum": "1982", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. AUSTIN HOPKINSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. AUSTIN HOPKINSON", "preceding_text": "se of a continuance of the dispute&#8212;that under such circumstances alone would the special constables be used in doing any work in a trade dispute. We had an example of the sort of thing I mean about three or more years ago, and it is a case of the kind in which undoubtedly a large portion of the inhabitants of this country were in actual danger of serious privation and of ultimate starvation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1982.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1984.4", "colnum": "1984", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WALSH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALSH", "preceding_text": "doubted. The whole mining industry&#8212;and those who know recognise that at least one side has had a fair share of prosperity&#8212;has managed to do without special constabulary right up till now, and until a couple of years ago, when the miners in the industry were locked out, and some million people were involved. The controversy was very acute, but there were no special constables called in.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1984.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1995.1", "colnum": "1995", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "mittee very much hope you will support the club, in which case kindly forward me your subscription in the enclosed envelope, when particulars will be sent you; the range at Blackfriars will be open on Thursday, 3rd May, and at Borers Passage on Monday, 14th. The next swearing of recruits will take place at the Guildhall on Friday, 4th May, at 1.30 p.m. Please make an endeavour to obtain a recruit.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1995.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1995.1", "colnum": "1995", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We were!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "all on Friday, 4th May, at 1.30 p.m. Please make an endeavour to obtain a recruit. [ Interruption. ] Hon. Members opposite express the spirit of Fascisti thoroughly and well, and they prove that the statements made by the Home Secretary are of absolutely no effect whatever. Whom are you going to use the revolvers and rifles against? Against the workmen and no one else. You are not at war, are you?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1995.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1999.4", "colnum": "1999", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You did!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "I did not describe it as anything of the kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.1999.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2001.0", "colnum": "2001", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "re construed in the sense that I have construed them. I submit that in these circumstances, as there is a doubt, it is essential that the new Clause should be inserted in the Bill. The Home Secretary says that he has no objection, on the merits. His objection is that the new Clause is unnecessary. It is the first time I have heard of a new Clause being refused on the ground that it is unnecessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2001.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2003.0", "colnum": "2003", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir ALFRED MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir ALFRED MOND", "preceding_text": "Could not the Home Secretary see his way to accept this Amendment?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2003.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2008.0", "colnum": "2008", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "being secured on a ballot, while no such ballot was taken. Communistic influences are operating.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2008.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2012.0", "colnum": "2012", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "in during the discussion to-day, that the new constabulary might be considered to be the nucleus of the Fascisti. I think that the Fascisti are more of Southern European crowd, but we have in America a force similar in character, which is causing great disturbance and heartburnings in that country at the present time, namely, the Klu Klux Klan. The Kin Klux Klan started, of course, by being&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2012.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2013.1", "colnum": "2013", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why this Bill?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRIDGEMAN", "preceding_text": "The hon. and gallant Gentleman seems to have found great pleasure in raising a bogey and then in knocking it down again. The special constabulary have been known to the public for years. We have had experience of the force for 93 years. Why, then, this extraordinary criticism when we are only doing the same as hitherto.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2013.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2023.6", "colnum": "2023", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SPECIAL CONSTABLES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No wonder.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN", "preceding_text": "is bound to be a class force, you will have an aggravation which would not exist if the ordinary forces were used. This is bound to be a class force, because of the refusal of the right hon. Gentleman to accept our Amendments to-day. He says we are unjustly suspicious, but, if so, why does he not allay the suspicion? It is not only ourselves who are suspicious, but our constituents are suspicious.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2023.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2054.5", "colnum": "2054", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WALSH", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Railways and Canals Commission.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALSH", "preceding_text": "disposition whether by reason of defect in title, legal disability or otherwise; We start out by stating there are persons from whom the right must be obtained, and yet, by a later implication, we say there are no persons possessed of such a right. When people are desirous of working coal, for the ownership of which, or the disposition of which, no legal right exists, who is going to confer power?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2054.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2061.0", "colnum": "2061", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BATEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A million and a quarter.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BATEY", "preceding_text": " to time by way of royalty in respect of the specified minerals if they had been worked out in the ordinary course. We take a very strong objection to paying royalty owners even for the coal which has been worked out, and we object even more strongly to paying them for coal which would have been worked out. In the County of Durham where I come from we pay the royalty owners &#163;1,000,000 a year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2061.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2071.0", "colnum": "2071", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. D. REID", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. D. REID", "preceding_text": "rals and surface sells the surface, reserving the minerals and reserving the right to let down the surface, well knowing that the purchase price he obtains is considerably lower than it would otherwise be. Hon. Members want to eat their cake and have it. If they choose to buy cottages built on land of which the owner has previously parted with the right of support they have nothing to complain of.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2071.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2072.0", "colnum": "2072", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacLAREN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Your leader!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacLAREN", "preceding_text": "hat we may attempt to do in a much more liberal way, and more in conformity with the basis rights of justice, that all men have equal rights to the earth on which God put them, and that no men have the right to withhold the minerals underneath, which they never made. I could quote speech after speech of the right hon. Member for Carnarvon Boroughs in those great days, when even I was apprehensive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2072.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2076.0", "colnum": "2076", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "consult the man who has sunk all his little capital in the building of a house? The Minister of Health tells us that is an admirable thing to do. But do not do it in a mining area or your house may tumble about your ears on account of the royalty owner and no compensation will be paid. An hon. Member said a few moments ago that it was perfectly right and just that these houses should be destroyed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2076.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2076.0", "colnum": "2076", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "n. Member said a few moments ago that it was perfectly right and just that these houses should be destroyed. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] I am within the recollection of the House when I say that one hon. Member declared with emphasis that any man who built a house in a mining area where there were no guarantees that the coal would not be worked, did so at his own risk and no compensation should be paid.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2076.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2076.0", "colnum": "2076", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": " \"Hear, hear!\"] People who build houses in mining areas do not do so for fun; they build the houses to live in so that they may be near their work. Is it to go out to the public, as a doctrine of the Conservative party, that it is right and just and proper that these poor men should have their houses tumbled about their ears without a penny of compensation at the hands of the royalty owning class.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2076.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2076.0", "colnum": "2076", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We do not agree.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "t these poor men should have their houses tumbled about their ears without a penny of compensation at the hands of the royalty owning class. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"] An hon. Member says \"Hear, hear.\" I hope he will be pilloried all over the working-class districts of Great Britain to-morrow, and I trust others who agree with him, and have not the courage to say so now, will also be pilloried.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2076.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2081.1", "colnum": "2081", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINES (WORKING FACILITIES AND SUPPORT) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide, divide!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "preceding_text": "I want to deal&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2081.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-07", "file": "debates1923-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "d93adeda439b8cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2094.3", "colnum": "2094", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SALMON AND FRESHWATER FISHERIES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel MURRAY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel MURRAY", "preceding_text": "installing these means should not be too prohibitive, having regard to the result obtained. That was the effect of the Act of 1876, but by that Act no manufacturer who commenced to pollute after the Act had passed was allowed to pollute, and, if he were proceeded against in the courts he could not plead that he had used the best practical and available means to render harmless the polluting matter", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-07a.2094.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2166.7", "colnum": "2166", "heading": "HEREDITARY TITLES (TERMINATION).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PONSONBY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PONSONBY", "preceding_text": "nary influence in tickling the most solemn audience into convulsions. Hereditary titles are doomed, and this Bill affords a very simple way of beginning to get rid of them. Hereditary titles administer to vanity; they encourage corruption; they lead to snobbishness and flunkeyism; they perpetuate class difference; and, in the eyes of the majority of intelligent people, they have become ridiculous.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2166.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2169.5", "colnum": "2169", "heading": "HEREDITARY TITLES (TERMINATION).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "Yes, I did.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2169.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2169.9", "colnum": "2169", "heading": "HEREDITARY TITLES (TERMINATION).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "I looked round, and asked for the \"Noes.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2169.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2201.0", "colnum": "2201", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "s were organised&#8212;should meet their representatives, discuss their respective situations, and come to an agreement about legislation, which then might be retrospective. That was not done. The house owners believed that they had sufficient strength with the Government to force a complete retrospective Bill through the House of Commons, and I am sorry to say they have been more than successful.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2201.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2213.0", "colnum": "2213", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir ROBERT HORNE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir ROBERT HORNE", "preceding_text": "nsidering. Even the native genius and Parliamentary ability of the hon. Member for Aberavon (Mr. Ramsay MacDonald) has not been sufficient to endow this argument with any new features, at least in so far as they were relevant to the subject to which he addressed himself. There is only one thing in his speech which I regret. He made a reference to this legislation as a species of class legislation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2213.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2217.2", "colnum": "2217", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. HORNE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. HORNE", "preceding_text": "ole charge of this error. The Government have not seen fit to take that course, and anything I have been able to say in urging such a remedy seems to have fallen on unsympathetic ears. Accordingly to-day one is put in a difficulty. Either you have to support this Bill or take the course which my hon. Friend suggests. The Government course is at least to do some meausre of justice in the situation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2217.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2217.2", "colnum": "2217", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. HORNE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. HORNE", "preceding_text": "rging such a remedy seems to have fallen on unsympathetic ears. Accordingly to-day one is put in a difficulty. Either you have to support this Bill or take the course which my hon. Friend suggests. The Government course is at least to do some meausre of justice in the situation. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"] The course proposed by the Front Opposition bench is that we should leave matters as they are.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2217.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2235.2", "colnum": "2235", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. HENDERSON (Tradeston)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. HENDERSON (Tradeston)", "preceding_text": "here is no trace of humour in a Scotsman would do well to listen to an extract which I will read from one of our local newspapers, and when I have read it I am convinced that it will be unnecessary for me to suggest to the Government that not only should rents not be fixed, but it is my humble opinion&#8212;and I am convinced of the justice of that opinion&#8212;that no rent should be paid at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2235.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2251.1", "colnum": "2251", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Send a policeman.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "preceding_text": " war. You may charge us with preaching it, but we charge you with practising it, and by the carrying of legislation of this character you are robbing the poor for the benefit of the rich. So far as I am concerned, and so far as I have any influence in the East End of London, I will resist this kind of legislation and I dare any of you to come down into Silvertown and try to collect this back rent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2251.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2255.1", "colnum": "2255", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. RAEBURN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. RAEBURN", "preceding_text": "Therefore, when that Bill came before Parliament and in Committee, I never really heard any very strong protest against the raising of these rents. I know some hon. Members of the Labour party object to the rise being so great, but, on the whole, I must say that they were fair enough to realise and to accept the argument that the landlords were entitled to something.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2255.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2259.1", "colnum": "2259", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. RAEBURN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. RAEBURN", "preceding_text": "12; [OFFICIAL REPORT, 29th June, 1917; col. 702, Vol. 95.] That case to my mind is on all fours with this. There was a decision of the Courts that the Act was not retrospective, and therefore the money could not be recovered. That was deliberately changed, and a Clause was inserted in the Courts (Emergency Powers) Bill, which gave the tenant power to recover. This is the same sort of case as that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2259.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2259.1", "colnum": "2259", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. RAEBURN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. RAEBURN", "preceding_text": "Powers) Bill, which gave the tenant power to recover. This is the same sort of case as that. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] There is this difference between the oases however. In the Birmingham case, the Act under which the claims arose was perfectly clear. It was in no way retrospective; but in the case of Kerr v. Bride the decision was on a mere legal quibble and not on the equity or justice of the case.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2259.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2268.9", "colnum": "2268", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Do you really mean it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "I will apologise about that too. I will do anything to please hon. Members. I was going to say that the hon. Member for the Gorbals Division said that nothing was too hard for the landlords. If that is his point of view, and the point of view of hon. Members opposite, argument becomes impossible. We might as well hang the landlords straightaway and have done with it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2268.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2268.9", "colnum": "2268", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": " the Gorbals Division said that nothing was too hard for the landlords. If that is his point of view, and the point of view of hon. Members opposite, argument becomes impossible. We might as well hang the landlords straightaway and have done with it. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Do you really mean it?\"] Well, that is what the hon. Member said or suggested. He said that nothing was too hard for the landlords.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2268.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2269.1", "colnum": "2269", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Made enough out of the law!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "of people would not probably be able to receive any rent at all for a long period, it might be a year. We have heard a great deal about the landlord class, and about the rich and the poor. I should like to say to hon. Members that up till about two years ago I was a practising solicitor. I cannot be accused of any personal interest in the matter now, because I have entirely retired from, practice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2269.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0", "colnum": "2282", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "preceding_text": " have been scrapped. The only thing you refuse to scrap is the latest promise made by the latest Prime Minister. I do not want to say that hon. Members opposite are any worse or any better than we are, but I do suggest that if they were left free in this matter there would be very little doubt about the result. Rightly or wrongly we believe that they represent the interests of the property owners.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0", "colnum": "2282", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "preceding_text": "uggest that if they were left free in this matter there would be very little doubt about the result. Rightly or wrongly we believe that they represent the interests of the property owners. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] If they do not, they will support us in rejecting this legislation. Is there a single hon. Member opposite who made any statement other than that he was fighting for the owners of property?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0", "colnum": "2282", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "preceding_text": " country when the Government goes aside in that way to further the interests of any one section of the community. There are many people who have suffered by the War, and they have had to put up with it. Think of the people against whom you are legislating. They gave up everything at the call of their country. The sons and, in some cases, the fathers went. Now you are loading the dice against them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0", "colnum": "2282", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Revolution!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "preceding_text": "re are two sections in our party. Sometimes you say that we are all the same, but I repeat that there are two sections in our party. There are men who believe in carrying out great changes by a process of evolution. There are other men in our party who say that you people will not obey the law when it is passed against you, and that the only way to make an alteration is to adopt different tactics.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0", "colnum": "2282", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "preceding_text": " but I repeat that there are two sections in our party. There are men who believe in carrying out great changes by a process of evolution. There are other men in our party who say that you people will not obey the law when it is passed against you, and that the only way to make an alteration is to adopt different tactics. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Revolution!\"] I know that you all laugh at revolution&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2282.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2288.2", "colnum": "2288", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "I am only using the argument that led up to that. I think I am entitled to use that argument.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2288.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2288.6", "colnum": "2288", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "bring them it would alter their outlook because I do not believe they are void of feeling, and I believe if they knew and understood the conditions under which the people live, move, and have their being, then they would understand our appeal. What do we find in that \"Holy City.\" If you drive a three-inch nail into the partition of one of the houses, the people next door can hang pictures upon it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2288.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2290.1", "colnum": "2290", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "occasion I read a letter&#8212;which was printed in the Press&#8212;a letter sent me from a soldier in hospital who had been wounded five times while serving in France and was a wreck lying in Stobhill Hospital, Glasgow. The letter stated that the factor had come and taken away part of his furniture, and unless the rent was forthcoming was going to put his wife and five children out in the street.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2290.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2290.1", "colnum": "2290", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Give it now!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "r in hospital who had been wounded five times while serving in France and was a wreck lying in Stobhill Hospital, Glasgow. The letter stated that the factor had come and taken away part of his furniture, and unless the rent was forthcoming was going to put his wife and five children out in the street. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"] I will give you the name and address, again, of the factor who did that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2290.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2290.1", "colnum": "2290", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Only one of many!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "in France and was a wreck lying in Stobhill Hospital, Glasgow. The letter stated that the factor had come and taken away part of his furniture, and unless the rent was forthcoming was going to put his wife and five children out in the street. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"] I will give you the name and address, again, of the factor who did that. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Give it now!\"] Brown, Bath Street, Glasgow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2290.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2290.1", "colnum": "2290", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": " regularly, and I am satisfied that many other Members must equally have been faced with it from time to time. There is, in my constituency, a very genuine belief that this Bill is directed against one section of the community and in favour of another. I am sure a great many Members, whatever their views may be, must have met in their constituencies innumerable people who have expressed that view.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2290.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2298.0", "colnum": "2298", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY - GENERAL (Sir Douglas Hogg)", "cue_text": "AN Hon. MEMBER: \"Who was that?", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY - GENERAL (Sir Douglas Hogg)", "preceding_text": "een so often said, two out of the five Law Lords, so far from it being clear that notice to quit was necessary, held, in fact, that under the Bill notice to quit was not necessary. One of those five Law Lords, one who agreed that notice to quit was necessary, went out of his way in the course of his judgment to point out that the language used in the Act was, to use his own expression, misleading.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2298.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2302.1", "colnum": "2302", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": "You are all a collection of swindlers, all the lot of you.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2302.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2302.3", "colnum": "2302", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "preceding_text": "Mr. Speaker, I am not interested in the quarrels of the hon. Gentlemen on both sides, who have all taken part in robbing the people&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2302.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2302.6", "colnum": "2302", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "preceding_text": "I am quite prepared to do so at your invitation. I do not want to say anything offensive, but, listening to the lawyers on both sides&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2302.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2303.1", "colnum": "2303", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The ATTORNEY-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "It is only by virtue of that enactment that any tenant has even any claim to get money back apart from the Bill we are now bringing in. But for that this question would never arise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2303.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2309.0", "colnum": "2309", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2309.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2309.0", "colnum": "2309", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "ise what exactly he has done in the terms of his own admissions in that closing speech. He has admitted that retrospective legislation is bad, and that retrospective legislation is not only repugnant to the spirit of our law but to the tradition of Parliament, and to his own instincts. What, then, is the excuse and justification that he has given for the present essay in retrospective legislation?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2309.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2310.3", "colnum": "2310", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT RESTRICTIONS (NOTICES OF INCREASE) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "I was summing up, not unfairly, I think, the effect of the Attorney-General's admissions, first of all, his objection to retrospective legislation, and I was going on to consider&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2310.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2315.11", "colnum": "2315", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FORESTRY (TRANSFER OF WOODS). [CONSOLIDATED FUND.]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BUCHANAN", "preceding_text": "I have no objection to this going through, but I object to this hole-and-corner way of doing it. We cannot hear what is being said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2315.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2316.4", "colnum": "2316", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FORESTRY (TRANSFER OF WOODS). [CONSOLIDATED FUND.]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "preceding_text": "Then I challenge your authority.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2316.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2316.10", "colnum": "2316", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSE IN COMMITTEE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PETO", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\" and \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PETO", "preceding_text": "On the point of Order. May I point out to you that the Motion was already put and declared carried by the Chairman before the hon. Member rose.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2316.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2316.12", "colnum": "2316", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSE IN COMMITTEE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "preceding_text": "What happened was wrong and contrary to the rules of the House. The hon. Member for Silvertown (Mr. J. Jones) was in order in making his protest, and he rose in good time before the Question was put. I heard it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2316.12"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-08", "file": "debates1923-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "1458c328b9313a30", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2317.1", "colnum": "2317", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSE IN COMMITTEE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, and No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": "In this matter I should like to ask for your ruling. Here is a Vote which involves nearly a million of money. We have been asked to accept it without question; I raised a protest. I raised it at the proper time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-08a.2317.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2356.2", "colnum": "2356", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GRAY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GRAY", "preceding_text": "I doubt very much whether&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2356.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2363.2", "colnum": "2363", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH NOTE TO RUSSIA.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that any sudden rupture will cause much loss on contracts to British firms who are carrying on trade&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2363.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2371.0", "colnum": "2371", "heading": "PASSENGER VESSELS (LIQUOR) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Pirate cutters?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "hich vessels with liquor on board will dump their liquor; and I suppose that under this Bill, if it becomes law, American ships will have to stop at floating cloak rooms on this side, outside our three-miles limit, and take on board liquor. I know that in this House there are many friends of pilots, and all who travel by sea have a very friendly disposition to them, but if the pilot cutters&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2371.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2486.0", "colnum": "2486", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING BURDENS (REDISTRIBUTION).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. PATTINSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. PATTINSON", "preceding_text": "ys told that the party opposite do not believe in changes. It is evident that they have been content to go on without any change whatever; but during the years that have passed enormous grievances have crept into the rating system. Therefore, it is a fit and proper time to raise the question once again. It has been raised on many occasions. Commissions have sat time after time, but with no result.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2486.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2489.4", "colnum": "2489", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING BURDENS (REDISTRIBUTION).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RILEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A journalist!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RILEY", "preceding_text": " fact that these burdens cannot be adjusted equitably until the incidence of local revenue and taxation is placed on the owner of income from land the value of which is created by the community. The hon. Member who moved this Resolution is a farmer. Let me quote a farmer as to what has occurred. I refer to a little book published recently, called \"The Farmer's Problem.\" It was written by a farmer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2489.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2511.2", "colnum": "2511", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING BURDENS (REDISTRIBUTION).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "preceding_text": "e may be an adjustment of assessment. Putting that on one side, and taking the present basis of assessment, and admitting that it might possibly be altered, with advantage, it is true to say, and there is no hon. Member in this House who can contradict it, that every bit of real property in this country, whether it be land or houses, pays, without fear, favour or affection, its share of the rates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2511.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2511.2", "colnum": "2511", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING BURDENS (REDISTRIBUTION).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "preceding_text": "ly be altered, with advantage, it is true to say, and there is no hon. Member in this House who can contradict it, that every bit of real property in this country, whether it be land or houses, pays, without fear, favour or affection, its share of the rates. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] That is absolutely true. What hon. Gentlemen have, I think, in their minds is that there are certain unrealised values.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2511.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2515.0", "colnum": "2515", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING BURDENS (REDISTRIBUTION).", "cue_speaker": "The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the BOARD of EDUCATION (Lord Eustace Percy)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the BOARD of EDUCATION (Lord Eustace Percy)", "preceding_text": " is necessary is that the Government, which is granting (say) a 75 per cent. grant to the local authorities, should be able to estimate in its Estimates presented to Parliament year by year what this liability is. As is well known, local authorities are not very early with their Estimates for the coming year's expenditure and they are usually very wide in estimating what their expenditure will be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2515.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2530.0", "colnum": "2530", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; GRETNA FACTORY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GWYNNE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not fair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GWYNNE", "preceding_text": "Board for nine months or a year before he took on the job. He ought to have known that when he pledged himself that one of his first acts would be to get a Committee set up to reconstitute this factory. It would have been wiser not to say that, and to couple with it at the same time the determination whole-heartedly to support the League of Nations and settle international questions by conference.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2530.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-09", "file": "debates1923-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "67de7ab60840e547", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2530.0", "colnum": "2530", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; GRETNA FACTORY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GWYNNE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GWYNNE", "preceding_text": "the same time the determination whole-heartedly to support the League of Nations and settle international questions by conference. [HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not fair.\"] It is my way of dealing with it. Is there a single Gentleman opposite who, if I on behalf of the War Office asked for a Supplementary Estimate to spend some millions in setting up this big cordite factory at Gretna, would support me?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-09a.2530.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2578.1", "colnum": "2578", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARREST OF BRITISH TRAWLERS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "Why do you not send the Fleet to New York?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2578.3", "colnum": "2578", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARREST OF BRITISH TRAWLERS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Go and join the Soviet\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "You are a lot of cowards. You are afraid of America&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2578.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2628.0", "colnum": "2628", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "Star Chamber!", "preceding_speaker": "Sir JOHN SIMON", "preceding_text": "quieter neighbourhood. The next thing that occurs in this precious document is this: The authors of it are not content with imposing these absurd penalties for the ridiculous crimes, but they think it necessary to create a special Court to try and punish offenders. I think if hon. Members will turn to Article 6 they will find this provision: A special Chamber of the Saarlouis Supreme Court\"&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2623.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2637.1", "colnum": "2637", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WOOD", "preceding_text": "h the elected representatives, etc. I am advised&#8212;whether the advice is firm or not I have no means of knowing, but it was the legal view, that was also taken by other nations, I think I am right in saying, as well as ours&#8212;that inasmuch as the Decree does not introduce modifications into any existing law it was not bound to be submitted to the elected representatives of the inhabitants.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2637.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2638.3", "colnum": "2638", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Do not give them away!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WOOD", "preceding_text": "I think the hon. Gentleman knows who they were.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2638.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2652.1", "colnum": "2652", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lord R. CECIL", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Lord R. CECIL", "preceding_text": "nterprise and activity. I accepted most fully and most completely the French doctrine and the French explanation that the Ruhr action was purely economic in character, and merely for the purpose of obtaining the necessary economic pledges in order to obtain the reparations to which they thought they were entitled. I accepted that absolutely and with complete sincerity, and I still hope it is true.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2652.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2652.1", "colnum": "2652", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lord R. CECIL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lord R. CECIL", "preceding_text": "trines of violence and force.\" I found, also, a great deal of exaggerated belief in the wickedness and in the extraordinary skilfulness of the European diplomats. 6.0 P.M. And, as an example, I was asked at every single meeting which I attended, either private or public, when I invited questions, what was going to happen in the Ruhr. Why is that allowed to go on? Why does not the League intervene?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2652.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2671.3", "colnum": "2671", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "preceding_text": "estion, which perhaps have not received in this House, the attention which they ought to have received. The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, in another place, or in a public speech, I forgot which, repeated a few days ago the well-known formula that the maintenance of the Entente was the only hope for peace in Europe, and Ministers in this House constantly refer to the French as our Allies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2671.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2676.1", "colnum": "2676", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "preceding_text": "ses with a total of 1,600,000. The Rumanian Conscription Law affects all males between 19 and 46 years, provides for 27 classes and totals 2,500,000. Thus, under the direct supervision of the French General Staff, 6,500,000 men in these States of the Little Entente alone, four and a half years after peace was signed, are being drilled and equipped for the next war. And this takes no account&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2676.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2676.1", "colnum": "2676", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is to keep Germany in order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "preceding_text": " all males between 19 and 46 years, provides for 27 classes and totals 2,500,000. Thus, under the direct supervision of the French General Staff, 6,500,000 men in these States of the Little Entente alone, four and a half years after peace was signed, are being drilled and equipped for the next war. And this takes no account&#8212;[ Interruption ]. Interruptions do not add to the clarity of debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2676.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2677.1", "colnum": "2677", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "preceding_text": "That is a rather long interjection, but one does not generally raise and equip 6&#189; millions of men with modern weapons in order to play football You have a helpless and disarmed Germany", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2677.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2677.1", "colnum": "2677", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He is here by the Speaker's Chair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "preceding_text": "t demand for &#163;6,600,000,000 in May, 1921, was a joint demand, and the ultimatum that the Ruhr would be occupied unless the Germans paid up was a joint ultimatum. The right hon. Gentleman the Member for Carnarvon Boroughs (Mr. Lloyd George) and M. Clemenceau share a distinction which will go down to posterity of being the creators of the Versailles Treaty. The right hon. Gentleman is not here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2677.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2677.1", "colnum": "2677", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOREL", "preceding_text": " of dismembering Germany, coming to a conference like sensible human beings, a new world conference, to clear up this financial mess we have all got into, to make the League of Nations a reality, and elaborating some scheme of disarmament, conditionally upon that we will wipe out your debt to us, and become the principal guarantors of an international loan upon the security of Germany's resources.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2677.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2693.0", "colnum": "2693", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHARLES BUXTON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHARLES BUXTON", "preceding_text": "is interested in at the present moment by itself, if it wants reparation at all, is &#163;1,300,000,000, roughly speaking, in pounds sterling; and Germany has offered &#163;1,500,000,000. I anticipate that ridicule will be poured upon me for speaking in this way. I shall be told, \"You are leaving out all the other Allies; you are leaving out Great Britain.\" Frankly, I am leaving out Great Britain.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2693.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2707.1", "colnum": "2707", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": "rue to say that before the Minority Treaties were negotiated there had not for years been a Jewish representative in either of the Chambers of the Polish Legislature. Is it correct to say that as a result of the protection extended to these minorities in Poland, and I believe very loyally observed by the Poles, that there are now a number of Jews in both Chambers, exercising legislative functions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2707.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2710.0", "colnum": "2710", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What would we do with them?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "preceding_text": "far as my recollection goes, in October, 1914. Lord Bryce sent this letter to Mr. Page, and the letter said that the writer regretted very much the trend of events, that her house was constantly being occupied by German officers, both naval and military, and that they one and all said that before Christmas 10 German army corps would be in England. And what were they going to do when they got here?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2710.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2710.0", "colnum": "2710", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Good for the dynamite trade!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "preceding_text": "icers, both naval and military, and that they one and all said that before Christmas 10 German army corps would be in England. And what were they going to do when they got here? [An HON. MEMBER: \"What would we do with them?\"] We have done very little at present. What were they going to do when they got here? They were going to destroy every single city in this country which had produced munitions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2710.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2713.1", "colnum": "2713", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "nsideration. I remember that, before the War, there were very great complaints made of German goods being dumped upon this country, and I remember that it was said that the result, was that our workmen were thrown out of employment, because the ordinary person in Great Britain preferred to buy for, say, 1s. a German article which could not be produced in this country under, say, 1s. 4d. or 1s. 5d.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2713.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2713.1", "colnum": "2713", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "r the impression that if German goods are allowed to come to this country&#8212;and we must remember that at the present moment the Germans would be very much advantaged, much more than they were eight or nine years ago, by the low rates of exchange, and that therefore quite irrespective of the fact that German workmen work much harder than our workmen, much longer hours, and for less wages&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2713.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.2", "colnum": "2714", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "overnment is that they have not taken proper steps to back up our Allies and France. My belief is that if the Foreign Secretary, when France first went into the Ruhr, had told the Germans that we were going to support France and that, if necessary, we would send our men there, I believe Germany would have given in at once, and we should have had none of this trouble. After all, we are the victors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.3", "colnum": "2714", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. SHAW", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And with money.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. SHAW", "preceding_text": "I do not intend to follow the right hon. Gentleman. I will only concern myself by making an appeal to the Government to take definite steps with regard to the Ruhr. I appeal to the Government to talk in a distinct manner to France, because we have a right to talk to France. When that country was fighting, we fed France with men and food and clothes and guns.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.3", "colnum": "2714", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. SHAW", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. SHAW", "preceding_text": "ng if the troops will be withdrawn. That is the position of affairs. It is not the position of a brave victor, it is not the position of a generous victor, it is not the position of the ordinary idea of an English victor, that when the enemy is crushed he should be jumped upon. That is not a British principle. It never was and never will be, and the people of this country are revolting against it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.3", "colnum": "2714", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. SHAW", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. SHAW", "preceding_text": "y be able to justify what I am going to say, that the officer swaggering along the road was, if I may use a Northern expression, \"the cock o' the walk.\" All that, I venture to suggest, has now gone. These men have been swept away. The Germany of the present day is a Republic, and the majority of its people desire peace, and are willing to make reparation if they get a fair opportunity of doing so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.3", "colnum": "2714", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. SHAW", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And speak their languages!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. SHAW", "preceding_text": "esire peace, and are willing to make reparation if they get a fair opportunity of doing so. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"] Well, the information of hon. Members may be better than mine. All I can say is that I have taken considerable pains to get mine. I know something of Germany, as I know something of France. I have travelled both countries from end to end, and know a very large number of people in them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2714.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2721.3", "colnum": "2721", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. BURN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. BURN", "preceding_text": " won the War, as they anticipated they would. I know that statement is true, and I believe every word of it. In these circumstances it is for France and Great Britain to put their heads together, to lay down on an equitable basis what Germany can pay, and when that is decided upon, it is up to us to make Germany pay it. Hon. Gentlemen on the opposite side, who are hand in glove with Germany&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2721.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2722.2", "colnum": "2722", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "rant, and I only wish to add this. There are only, it is true, 5,000,000 Galicians, but we tried to govern Ireland in a similar way in recent years and we failed utterly, and I am sure that where we failed in Ireland the Poles will fail in Eastern Galicia. But there is in Canada a loyal population drawn from this part of the world. There are half a million of persons of Galician descent in Canada.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2722.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2726.0", "colnum": "2726", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": " and that that is the only way to get money out of Germany and to reap indemnities. How sad it is to observe the descent of the last of the individualists! Has there ever been so great a fall from greatness as that of the right hon. Gentleman, or so great a departure from steadfastness or principles as we have heard this evening? If I might now refer directly to the subject under discussion&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2726.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2726.0", "colnum": "2726", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": " a more stable and stately edifice of English policy\"? What was his foundation for that edifice? His foundation was the English Cabinet and their policy. You might as well ask him to build a pyramid upon a jelly fish. You want something more solid than this upon which to build the foundations of the new world. You want a policy, a conception, a plan, vigorously thought out and vigorously executed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2726.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2732.2", "colnum": "2732", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"British\" and \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "s. But, if I may refer to the subject to which I have devoted the whole of my remarks prior to the interruptions, I would ask the Government to state, if they can, what is the policy of the English Government. Having advanced an invitation to Germany, having elicited a response, having assumed responsibility for a new move in the international situation, what is the plan of the English Government?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2732.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2732.2", "colnum": "2732", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MOSLEY", "preceding_text": "jeers, laughs and boos from those benches. In a few weeks later there is acquiescence in precisely the same policy. On this occasion I ask the right hon. Gentleman to turn, if he can, to the traditions more worthy of this country and recover, if he can, in the councils of the nations some of those mighty ascents of English statesmanship which in the past thrilled the moral conscience of the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2732.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-10", "file": "debates1923-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "2f10b851f3ee0e26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2746.0", "colnum": "2746", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "The SECRETARY of STATE for the HOME DEPARTMENT (Mr. Bridgeman)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not unusual!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The SECRETARY of STATE for the HOME DEPARTMENT (Mr. Bridgeman)", "preceding_text": "e in and released her hold, and her boots were taken off, as she was kicking violently. She not only rendered the woman warder unconscious, but bit her, and bit another of the women warders. After that, she appeared to become rather exhausted with her exertions and seemed likely to faint: I think she actually fainted. Then the not unusual practice was resorted to of dashing some water in her face.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-10a.2746.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-11", "file": "debates1923-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "1f712ed14fbec2fa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2763.0", "colnum": "2763", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING OF MACHINERY BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel WATTS MORGAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel WATTS MORGAN", "preceding_text": "And to make more profit.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2763.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-11", "file": "debates1923-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "1f712ed14fbec2fa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2768.0", "colnum": "2768", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING OF MACHINERY BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And he lost his job.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "preceding_text": "or the purpose. It will be remembered that last year my right hon. Friend the Member for West Swansea (Sir A. Mond)&#8212;the late occupier of the office which I now hold&#8212;was ready to set up a Departmental Committee of inquiry into these matters. I take it, the only reason why he did not proceed with the setting up of that Committee was that the Bill itself never got beyond the Report stage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2768.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-11", "file": "debates1923-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "1f712ed14fbec2fa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2789.1", "colnum": "2789", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING OF MACHINERY BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. FRASER", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"300!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. FRASER", "preceding_text": "There, I am getting on a broad subject. One reason why I am supporting this Bill more than any other is, that if you feel justified in rating a machine, surely you are equally justified in rating a mechanic, a workman, an engineer, a baker, a candlestick-maker, or the man who lays bricks. You should tax the bricklayer according to the utmost capacity of his output. If he can lay 1,000 a day&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2789.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-11", "file": "debates1923-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "1f712ed14fbec2fa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2830.0", "colnum": "2830", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING OF MACHINERY BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Thousands, not millions!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "preceding_text": "te in London, very largely under-rated at the moment, because undeveloped. Certain people Ranted to purchase that site in order to place upon it magnificent buildings, and the whole question is, Can they do it? Because if they do it, they will be spending the best part of &#163;500,000, but not only will that mean an annual rental value of something like &#163;25,000,000 or &#163;30,000,000&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2830.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-11", "file": "debates1923-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "1f712ed14fbec2fa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2834.3", "colnum": "2834", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING OF MACHINERY BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Lawyers!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "preceding_text": "re simply because you will not look into these questions. This subject happens to pinch a few people opposite, and so machinery is to be un-rated. What they do not realise is that there is no connection in the world between the sort of individualist creed professed in this country and the defence of these rotten economics which allow a few people to get rich at the expense of the entire community.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2834.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-11", "file": "debates1923-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "1f712ed14fbec2fa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2834.3", "colnum": "2834", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING OF MACHINERY BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "preceding_text": "n in the House with me for many years, speaking in this most unaccustomed strain, I could not help realising that this was the moment that we should nail down what he and his friends were saying, that it is bad for industry that you should rate improvements and machinery. When you have pursued that thought to its logical conclusion you will come to no other conclusion than that on the whole&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2834.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-05-11", "file": "debates1923-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "1f712ed14fbec2fa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2834.3", "colnum": "2834", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RATING OF MACHINERY BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBEE: \"You may get to the Woolsack.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "preceding_text": "ay: \"Save us from our so-called friends!\" In conclusion I want to say this, quite shortly. I am delighted to find the support we are getting from the other side of the House upon this prime principle of the unrating of improvements. If we can only go on and develop this dawning of economic intelligence on that side of the House, and get them to give tongue to it, Heaven knows where it may lead to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-05-11a.2834.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-02", "file": "debates1923-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "0c07f1bf02524393", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.67.0", "colnum": "67", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. GRIFFITHS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We cannot hear you!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. GRIFFITHS", "preceding_text": "sion of a certificate of the Board of Education should free it from the duty. Then, again, with regard to musical festivals; people in different districts in Wales are trained perhaps for 12 months and at the end of the time have a musical festival. It is a labour of love; indeed, they incur considerable personal expense, and&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up!\"]&#8212;I think they should be exempted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.67.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-02", "file": "debates1923-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "0c07f1bf02524393", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.156.4", "colnum": "156", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain Viscount EDNAM", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Viscount EDNAM", "preceding_text": "m. If it is once admitted that there is an obligation either on the State or on the local authorities to nuke good deficits, the hospitals will have lost their incentive to collect and the subscribers their incentive to contribute. I particularly wish to emphasise that point because I have no doubt the right hon. Gentleman in his reply will say that this concession means in effect a State subsidy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.156.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-02", "file": "debates1923-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "0c07f1bf02524393", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.163.0", "colnum": "163", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The voluntary system!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "preceding_text": "s know what are the facts. The Cave Committee made this particular recommendation. 9.0 P.M. Already I have referred to that great institution, one of the greatest in South London, that is the King's College Hospital, Denmark Hill. There it is, a greater boon to that community was never bestowed. Its case is this: There are six wards closed, with 180 beds, and 1,000 poor people on the waiting list.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.163.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-02", "file": "debates1923-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "0c07f1bf02524393", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.163.0", "colnum": "163", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. MACNAMARA", "preceding_text": "scape what will happen will be that to that extent you will be giving 10 per cent. of the total benefaction to the executors of the estate. Supposing, for instance, &#163;1,000 is left. In that case &#163;900 will go to the hospital, and the &#163;100, instead of going to the Treasury, will go to the beneficiaries under the will. That may be so in some cases but that could be immediately adjusted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.163.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-02", "file": "debates1923-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "0c07f1bf02524393", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.166.0", "colnum": "166", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "cue_text": "an HON. MEMBER: \"And the lifeboat institutions!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "preceding_text": " precedent if adopted for every other kind of charity, but how could he guarantee that? Already since this Clause was put on the Paper I have had an official letter from St. Dunstan's asking that they should be included, and why not? Are they not a most excellent charitable institution? The moment this Clause is conceded you would find a Clause put down that St. Dunstan's should be included&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.166.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-02", "file": "debates1923-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "0c07f1bf02524393", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.206.6", "colnum": "206", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SAMUEL ROBERTS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SAMUEL ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "uld have been confiscated by the Germans. The consequence was that after the Armistice the whole of the profits earned for a period of five years were distributed in March or April, 1919&#8211;20, and this man, who always before was &#163;1,000 below the Super-tax level, and since has been below the Super-tax level, suddenly found himself, because of the German occupation, having to pay Super-tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-02a.206.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.288.1", "colnum": "288", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": "It was enacted by the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.288.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.301.1", "colnum": "301", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir G. COLLINS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir G. COLLINS", "preceding_text": "d, three consequences will result. First, owners of land will avoid their fair share of taxation; second, there will be loss of revenue, which will fall upon the shoulders of the general taxpayers; and, third, local authorities and ratepayers throughout the country will be forced to pay an extra high price for land when the State develops our housing activities and other forms of State activities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.301.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.301.1", "colnum": "301", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir G. COLLINS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir G. COLLINS", "preceding_text": " the rights of property are being challenged. The financial difficulties of the time have made our people question every Act of Parliament, and question the rights of this House. If the Prime Minister were present I would say to him, \"Is this the moment to raise a cry of further injustice?\" It is quite apparent that if the Amendment is not carried landlords will gain and the Exchequer will suffer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.301.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.317.2", "colnum": "317", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You will see the horns in a minute!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "Oh! What is the country? We always understood when a man was talking about saving the country's money that he was talking about the public Treasury; that is how Members of Parliament ordinarily speak. Now, apparently, when the right hon. Gentleman speaks about the country he means the owners of land who have to make the returns. Here we see the cloven hoof.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.317.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.319.0", "colnum": "319", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir WILLIAM BULL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Circulate it!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir WILLIAM BULL", "preceding_text": "imple, etc.) is passing. In the case of the grant or assignment of a lease, the particulars of the lease should be entered on page 4. ( b ) Particulars (including term, rent reserved, and any power of renewal) of any outstanding lease to which the interest passing is subject. (If the lease is a lease for lives the date of birth of the youngest life should be stated.\" There are not many more&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.319.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.329.1", "colnum": "329", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Last year!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "urselves and hon. Members opposite is that they are always looking backward while we are looking forward. Some hon. Members opposite, and especially those associated with the hon. and learned Member for Penistone, are persuaded that it is only they who are looking forward. What, then, is the meaning of all that diving into the OFFICIAL REPORT to discover opinions expressed three or four years ago?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.329.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.333.1", "colnum": "333", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Pringle!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "r for this year.\" After that, purely because a few inexperienced Members&#8212;and we have all been inexperienced, we have all been new Members at one time, though it is a long time ago since I was a new Member&#8212;I have no doubt at all that it was a mistake, and that they probably did not quite understand the Bill; who does within the first few months after he has been in the House of Commons?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.333.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.379.5", "colnum": "379", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Overtime!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "preceding_text": "ment the other night I should have spoken then, but as agreements seem to be rather light things, I propose to speak now. I do not, as a rule, speak at very great length. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"] But I May be encouraged to do so if hon. Members continue to interrupt me. I have spoken for nearly two hours in the country upon this question, and I can easily do so again without repeating myself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.379.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.379.5", "colnum": "379", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HEMMERDE", "preceding_text": "n he proceeded to denounce the rating of land values. Of course, until you have got a valuation of the unimproved land value of this country, you cannot alter your rating system to try even experiments in the direction in which most of our Colonies have gone. You cannot fairly tackle the question of the public purchase of land in any direction. You cannot nationalise land, either wholly or partly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.379.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.387.1", "colnum": "387", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Read it!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRETYMAN", "preceding_text": " for West Birmingham (Mr. A. Chamberlain) has been strongly enforced. It is perfectly clear that the country is faced with a direct determination on the part of both parties opposite to use this valuation for the purpose of reimposing land valuation. I do not wish to weary the House, but I have here a quotation from the speech of the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Paisley (Mr. Asquith)&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.387.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.390.0", "colnum": "390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir ALFRED MOND", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"At an honest price!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir ALFRED MOND", "preceding_text": "ugh the other way. What does the right hon. Gentleman mean by saying that the dice are loaded? Does he mean that the more accurate the information which the Government can obtain does not enable them to pay a fair price for the land which is acquired? The Financial Secretary is one of the guardians of the public purse, and he ought to see that land is bought for the Government at the lowest price.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.390.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-03", "file": "debates1923-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "830e8d96ee19d4ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.399.0", "colnum": "399", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain WEDGWOOD BENN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain WEDGWOOD BENN", "preceding_text": "t case is this. He says that when the Government were defeated on the vote on the co-operative societies' Income Tax they considered it their duty to bow to the will of the House. This is not in pari materia at all. That was a defeat deliberately inflicted on the Government, against the Government Whips, by the House of Commons. This is nothing of the kind. This is a vote which was snatched&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-03a.399.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.467.3", "colnum": "467", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wait and see!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNOWDEN", "preceding_text": "re giving to Labour propaganda? Yesterday's Debate and the confessions that were made that the Tory party is going to prevent it from coming into its own, that they are going to do nothing while in office, and, so far as they can, make it difficult for those who follow them to do justice to the dispossessed of the country is worth at least 50 seats to the Labour party at the next General Election.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.467.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.496.1", "colnum": "496", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And were duds when they were bought.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": " price that they paid during the War for certain commodities and munitions bought from us was an inflated price, and that, therefore, there should be a writing down of the debt to some considerable extent. If that be a valid argument, we have exactly the same argument to put to the United States of America. It is notorious that much of those munitions were bought at an artificially inflated price.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.496.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.511.0", "colnum": "511", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir ARTHUR CHURCHMAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about trade?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir ARTHUR CHURCHMAN", "preceding_text": " of the Exchequer in this House, and even to hon. Members on the benches opposite, of a suggestion as to what their future taxation should be, I would say that it would be far better to have a graduated tax on expenditure than a graduated Income Tax, because a graduated tax on expenditure would actually discourage expenditure of a careless and foolish nature, and would encourage thrift and saving.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.511.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.519.1", "colnum": "519", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"More!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "preceding_text": "he whole of the working classes&#8212;still using the same term&#8212;are not represented by the Labour party opposite. The hon. Member, who is one of my own constituents, knows quite well that in my Division I represent a very vast proportion of the working men in the constituency. In the same way, nearly every hon. Member on these benches represents an almost equal number of working-class votes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.519.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.523.1", "colnum": "523", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Singapore.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "preceding_text": "Members come here day after day and month after month pressing further expenditure upon the Government unless they realise at the same time that they have to face the inevitable day in April, 1924, when the new Budget has to be brought in and it will have to be balanced either by further taxation, which no one would think of if it could possibly be avoided, or by economies during the current year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.523.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.534.1", "colnum": "534", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And the men who took the risks!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GOULD", "preceding_text": "ned to be in the House, and I corrected him. Whatever profits we derive in the shipping industry&#8212;I have been some years in the House, and it has been anathema maranatha for any hon. Member to stand up and defend the shipping industry&#8212;I will say this as a shipowner: It was the shipping industry that saved this country in 1914, and it is to the shipping industry that we owe our position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.534.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.546.1", "colnum": "546", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"As Chancellor of the Exchequer?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HERBERT", "preceding_text": " many&#8212;we know that really we cannot press them when the time comes, because the Budget has been prepared on certain lines. Though our suggestions may not cost a lot, yet everyone costs a little, and when a number are put together it means that they really cannot be given. What I do hope is that my right hon. Friend the Financial Secretary will remain in his present position till next Budget.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.546.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.548.1", "colnum": "548", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RILEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RILEY", "preceding_text": "week is contributed by that family in taxation on sugar. In face of an instance like that, we are quite justified in saying that a Bill of this character is iniquitous and disgraceful. Last year the same thing happened. The hon. Gentleman who spoke last made the statement that 42,500,000 people in this country got nothing directly from this Bill. It is argued that it comes back to them indirectly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.548.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.566.0", "colnum": "566", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. AMMON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. AMMON", "preceding_text": "t. Before dealing with one or two main points of the Finance Bill, I propose to deal with the few points raised by the Financial Secretary to the Treasury when he replied to the discussion a short time ago. He, I think, was under some impression that people on this side of the House claimed an entire monopoly of honesty of conviction with regard to the principles they were presenting to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.566.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-04", "file": "debates1923-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "d55b4e9845f9e8ee", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.566.0", "colnum": "566", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. AMMON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. AMMON", "preceding_text": "ajority position in this House through the agency of this Finance Bill to consolidate themselves still further, and to take to themselves further increases of wealth. There has as yet been no answer to our criticisms, and there have been no proposals brought forward for the reduction of the great burden of debt other than that advanced by the Labour party, namely, the imposition of a capital levy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-04a.566.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-05", "file": "debates1923-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "d681e60e549415d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-05a.706.1", "colnum": "706", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HOWARD-BURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel HOWARD-BURY", "preceding_text": "ders and prevent any such thing happening again. The policy of frontier roads will enable us to cut down our forces very considerably on the frontier. We all regret the outrages that have recently taken place, but when you get a large and fanatical Mahommedan population living on the frontier, and across the frontier, and when they think that to kill a Christian means that they go to Heaven&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-05a.706.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-05", "file": "debates1923-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "d681e60e549415d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-05a.712.0", "colnum": "712", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. HOPE SIMPSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. HOPE SIMPSON", "preceding_text": "fortified his high position if he had had the courage to certify the extra Income Tax to make up the deficit. That is where he make a mistake, not in certifying, but in certifying salt. In my opinion this has had an unfortunate political effect for two reasons. First it demonstrates the impotence of the Assembly, it demonstrates the fact that the Assembly was as the Indians themselves said a sham.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-05a.712.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-05", "file": "debates1923-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "d681e60e549415d9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-05a.732.1", "colnum": "732", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "l it their business to create a federation, loosely knit if you will, of the people under the British flag, not to dominate other people, but to lead the way for a true federation of the world. We talk a lot about the League of Nations. If we cannot have a League of free people under British rule, do not let us talk about a League of Nations outside British rule. Indians are kept out of Australia.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-05a.732.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-06", "file": "debates1923-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "f830bd0c9a94da4a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-06a.816.3", "colnum": "816", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EAST INDIA LOANS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. SUGDEN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"From what authority is the hon. Member quoting?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. SUGDEN", "preceding_text": "ncashire are being compelled to work one week in four as a result of this competition. I ask the House to listen while I give figures which will show how the Indian export trade to China has been proceeding from 1913 to 1922. Previously to 1913, we in Lancashire supplied the majority of the world's needs in these goods. In 1913&#8211;14 the export of yarn from India was one-half what it is to-day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-06a.816.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.987.0", "colnum": "987", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McENTEE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order, order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McENTEE", "preceding_text": ". He says, \"You are not fair; you are taking away from the good landlord so as to punish the bad landlord.\" It is quite reasonable to argue that the good landlord should have something to pay him for the repairs he does, but in the same speech the right hon. Gentleman admitted that there are bad landlords who are not doing the work. It is not common honesty, and I charge him with dishonesty&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.987.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.990.1", "colnum": "990", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McENTEE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McENTEE", "preceding_text": "Then I charge the Government with gross dishonesty.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.990.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.993.1", "colnum": "993", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": "I can assure the right hon. Gentleman that I have read the Bill. I was pointing out the condition of affairs under the existing Acts. I take it from the right hon. Gentleman's remark that he agrees with me that such a state of affairs as I have indicated could arise under the existing Acts. May I point out the very great difficulty that exists in approaching the sanitary authorities?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.993.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1005.2", "colnum": "1005", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. DAVIES", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It will not touch that case at all.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. DAVIES", "preceding_text": "that kind. I do not know whether it could or not One thing is obvious, to me, at any rate, and that is that the owner of property of that kind is not justified in swooping down upon a shopkeeper tenant when he has built up a business by diligence, by thrift and by capacity, to ask &#163;2,000 premium for the renewal of the lease. If the Amendment is carried it will relieve many cases of that kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1005.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1009.5", "colnum": "1009", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. THOMAS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He would still do it if your Clause were put in.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. THOMAS", "preceding_text": "who is faced with this situation. He has developed his business, formed a connection, and had given his time and money. Then the landlord comes along and says, \"I know perfectly well that you cannot remove from the district. I know perfectly well that you have built up a connection.\" What right, we ask, has the landlord to take advantage of the situation because the tenant has built up a business?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1009.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1009.5", "colnum": "1009", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. THOMAS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"I voted for it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. THOMAS", "preceding_text": "EMBER: \"He would still do it if your Clause were put in.\"] My hon. Friend interrupted the previous speaker, and said he did not believe this Clause was watertight. If it is not watertight, what we are concerned with is with removing the grievance, mere words are a detail. It is not sufficient merely to criticise the wording of the Clause if you wish, or are agreed, that a remedy ought to be found.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1009.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1057.1", "colnum": "1057", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "me at which there is some reasonable hope that houses will be provided, and we will have an end of this legislation altogether? I am sure that commends itself to the hon. Gentleman opposite. Even the hon. Member for West Woolwich (Sir K. Wood) has not had the hardihood to suggest that there will be houses in 1925. What is then to be the result? You will have another series of by-elections in 1925.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1057.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1059.0", "colnum": "1059", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why did you not let the ex-Service men build them when they came back from the War?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "preceding_text": ". As far back as 1905 the building of houses for the working people had practically ceased, and I do not believe you intend, with your Bill, to provide houses, either in 1925 or in 1930. The suggestion is made that we favour municipal building. The Members on these benches favour the building of houses by any means by which they can be got. The need is so great that we do not care who builds them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1059.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1068.1", "colnum": "1068", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Clear as mud!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "rd means. In view, however, of the fact that I might be questioned on it, I have fortified myself with one or two quotations. Take, firstly, Stroud's Judicial Dictionary. It says: Where the word has a constructive legal meaning not completely corresponding to the fact it indicates, then the addition of 'actual' will intensify that word, so that it will not be fully satisfied by such legal meaning.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1068.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1070.6", "colnum": "1070", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HASTINGS", "preceding_text": "As far as I am personally concerned, I agree with every word that has been said as to the inapplicability of the word \"actual.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1070.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1129.3", "colnum": "1129", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "preceding_text": "I think I am perfectly in order, with all due deference.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1129.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-09", "file": "debates1923-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "632009a9c46b109c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1137.3", "colnum": "1137", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Go on!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "orrow night. I had intended to go as far as Clause 9, so as to divide up the time fairly evenly between the two nights, but I should not like to take advantage, even unwittingly, of any misunderstanding which was perfectly bona-fide on the part of anyone. If the House desires that we should do so, we will adjourn now on the understanding that we are going to have the Third Reading to-morrow night.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-09a.1137.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-10", "file": "debates1923-07-10a.xml", "sha256": "b290ad6780ef8518", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1151.8", "colnum": "1151", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. HUTCHISON", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Order, order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. HUTCHISON", "preceding_text": "Will not the right hon. Gentleman consider putting a company as garrison for Edinburgh Castle? After all, it is only battalion training that is interfered with, and&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1151.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-10", "file": "debates1923-07-10a.xml", "sha256": "b290ad6780ef8518", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1175.5", "colnum": "1175", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PENSIONED WIDOWS (SICKNESS GRANTS).", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "The Guardians!", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. de FRECE", "preceding_text": "Who assists these pensioned widows when the grant has been withdrawn?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1175.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-10", "file": "debates1923-07-10a.xml", "sha256": "b290ad6780ef8518", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1208.2", "colnum": "1208", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Yes.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "If the notice was inaccurate?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1208.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-10", "file": "debates1923-07-10a.xml", "sha256": "b290ad6780ef8518", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1314.0", "colnum": "1314", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. DAVIES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. DAVIES", "preceding_text": "I am surprised at the argument used by the hon. Member for South West Hull (Mr. Entwistle). We have carried our point in this Amendment a step further than the Bill. The Bill simply states: 'Repairs' means any repairs required for the purpose of keeping premises in good and tenantable repair. That would mean a house with no decorations at all&#8212;simply whitewashed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1314.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-10", "file": "debates1923-07-10a.xml", "sha256": "b290ad6780ef8518", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1317.7", "colnum": "1317", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONALISATION OF MINES AND MINERALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT (Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health, Scotland)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT (Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health, Scotland)", "preceding_text": " House. Seldom or never have we had the House discussing a Measure of this first-class importance with that light-heartedness and carelessness which is more the privilege of those who enjoy a position of greater freedom and less responsibility. On the general question of the nationalisation of mines and minerals I do not think hon. Members opposite on the Labour Benches can be quite serious&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1317.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-10", "file": "debates1923-07-10a.xml", "sha256": "b290ad6780ef8518", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1317.7", "colnum": "1317", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONALISATION OF MINES AND MINERALS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT (Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health, Scotland)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: Have you read the Bill?", "preceding_speaker": "Captain ELLIOT (Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health, Scotland)", "preceding_text": " mines and minerals I do not think hon. Members opposite on the Labour Benches can be quite serious&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: Oh!\"]&#8212;in proposing that a Measure of this importance should be given a Second Reading in this House in five minutes' time, after the long and heated discussion which has taken place this afternoon. There are many points of substance and indeed of principle in this Measure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-10a.1317.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1354.6", "colnum": "1354", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ADVERTISEMENTS (NATIONAL FLAG).", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "Will the right hon. Gentleman recommend the deletion of the Union Jack from advertisements of Conservative meetings?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1354.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1402.2", "colnum": "1402", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "k I should be able, by documentary evidence, to prove to the Solicitor-General for Scotland that there is a doubt existing in the minds of the legal advisers. It is, as a matter of fact, the case that allotment holders are now outside the scope of the relief given by the Act of 1896. I should further like to draw the attention of the Minister of Agriculture to the fact that the relief given&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1402.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1403.6", "colnum": "1403", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "Surely it must be possible, in a Bill proposing to deal with relief of the rates upon agricultural land, to define \"agricultural land\"? The definition sought to be obtained in this Amendment is a definition as to what shall not constitute agricultural land.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1403.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1407.0", "colnum": "1407", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. RICHARDS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. RICHARDS", "preceding_text": "I beg to second the Amendment. We think that this Bill is not only bad in principle but in its incidence, and we are not convinced that the industry of agriculture is unduly depressed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1407.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1409.1", "colnum": "1409", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "nd, which is so badly hit at the present time, and less relief to those branches of agriculture that are not doing so badly at the present time. If I am challenged on that point, I would like to take the case of sheep farms, or, at all events, those which are not arable farms. It is a fact that people are selling their sheep to-day at prices 100 per cent. above the prices obtaining before the War.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1409.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1422.0", "colnum": "1422", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain DIXON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain DIXON", "preceding_text": "he farmers who work those grazing lands had had enough money to dress them with artificial manure and treat them properly, I venture to state that they could feed at least double the number of milch cows that they are feeding at the present time. In very large areas of England, also, the grazing tenants have bought their holdings, and have paid for them, I think, much more than the land was worth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1422.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1426.0", "colnum": "1426", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is it agricultural?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "preceding_text": "In Glasgow we have 4,000 acres in our city&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1426.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1426.0", "colnum": "1426", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "preceding_text": "f slums. If the Bill was going to deal with the agricultural side alone, there would be no need for me to cut in on this question. Grass lands are not known in Glasgow because, even if we could get rid of the old tins and the bottles and started to put in crops, as soon as they put their heads above the ground the fumes from the chemical works at St. Rollox would lay them all dead in half an hour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1426.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1428.1", "colnum": "1428", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "ommittee, and I hope the Minister of Agriculture has not made his mind up about it. There is substance in it, and I put it forward because it comes from high authority. It is merely an adaptation of an Amendment which was moved to the principal Act by Mr. McKenna. In these circumstances, it demands the consideration of the Government. We hope soon to see Mr. McKenna as Chancellor of the Exchequer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1428.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1444.0", "colnum": "1444", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "An HON MEMBER: \"Of course he is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": "oposal such as this. They do not dare take this proposal to a Scottish Grand Committee of this House. They tack this surreptitiously on to an English Bill&#8212;because it is an English Bill&#8212;in the sure and certain knowledge that if they did not do that they would never get it through a Scottish Grand Committee. I cannot understand whether the deer forest proprietor is to share in this swag.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1444.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1449.2", "colnum": "1449", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. CRAIK", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"On land values!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. CRAIK", "preceding_text": "anded proprietors, whose burdens are unbearable. There is Lady Gordon-Cathcart who, from her island property, draws no rental whatever, and who, if she were not the owner of a large city property in Edinburgh, could not carry on. Some hon. Members think you would get a better economic system if you abolished the landlord altogether. Where would the burden of the rates in those districts then fall?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1449.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1451.0", "colnum": "1451", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for SCOTLAND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for SCOTLAND", "preceding_text": " (Mr. Falconer) that while the rates are paid half by the owner and half by the occupier that the owner's rates do not affect the agricultural industry at all. Therefore, it seems to me that the English system of rating the occupiers is a profound mistake. If all the rates in England could be shifted from the occupier to the owner the agricultural industry would be free from all burden whatsoever.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1451.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1461.3", "colnum": "1461", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He has no spots.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "preceding_text": "bery of the people of this country; it cannot be described in any other terms. I am surprised that so soon after the establishment of a Conservative Government, the Government should show its hand so openly. It has so long camouflaged its purposes that one cannot help being surprised when it so clearly shows its hand. It seems to me that the Conservative, like the leopard, never changes his spots.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1461.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1461.3", "colnum": "1461", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So you do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MACLEAN", "preceding_text": "s no spots.\"] Then he is black all over, I suppose. I am glad to have that admission. I protest, as a Scottish Member, against, this robbing of the people of the country in the interest of a class. This is sheer class legislation. I suppose one cannot expect anything but class legislation from a Conservative Government. Hon. Members opposite complain about our preaching class hatred and class war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1461.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1471.0", "colnum": "1471", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Dumbartonshire!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "ive some philosophical defence of this extraordinary procedure. He will defend it, I have no doubt, on biological lines, in the same way in which he held his Fabian theories in the old days before he entered this House. Where are the others? Where is the right hon. Member for Hillhead (Sir R. Home)? He is not here. The hon. Member for Kelvin Grove (Mr. W. Hutchison) is not here. They are all away.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1471.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1477.1", "colnum": "1477", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "I am not the only Scotsman representing an English constituency. I do not know that the Noble Lord can congratulate himself on the most recent acquisition to the representation of his own county, who is a Scotsman also.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1477.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1484.1", "colnum": "1484", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major McKENZIE WOOD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Major McKENZIE WOOD", "preceding_text": "After the long and clear arguments that have been addressed to the Government, I think we ought to have some answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1484.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1505.0", "colnum": "1505", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BRUFORD", "preceding_text": " the landlord does the repairs to a great extent and often helps his poorer neighbours. That is not thought about in this House. The hon. Member for Newcastle-under-Lyme told us just now he would see that the action of the Government was understood in the country. I do not mind if he does that, so long as he will see that his emissaries tell the truth about the Conservative party and the landlord.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1505.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1507.2", "colnum": "1507", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And in the towns!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "ming will save itself by its own self-help and capacity. The other point is this: An hon. Member, speaking a little while ago, said he had made the discovery that the landlord was an unpopular character. I am afraid that is a fact. A little while ago I fought an election in a rural area. Under the surface I never saw a fiercer class war than that which raged in that particular part of the country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1507.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1507.2", "colnum": "1507", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "that the landlord was an unpopular character. I am afraid that is a fact. A little while ago I fought an election in a rural area. Under the surface I never saw a fiercer class war than that which raged in that particular part of the country. [An HON. MEMBER: \"And in the towns!\"] And in the towns. A feeling has grown up that the landlord is a class of person who ought not to be permitted to exist.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1507.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1507.2", "colnum": "1507", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ROBERTS", "preceding_text": "revolution that is going on now in Europe can quite easily see that some drastic changes may come in our own country. Even in a land like Denmark, with its system of peasant proprietorship to steady the situation, the best step to the agrarious revolution is a proposal under which the big landowners had to surrender to the State one-fifth of their property, on a very small and scanty compensation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1507.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1517.0", "colnum": "1517", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ACLAND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Did you say that at Tiverton?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ACLAND", "preceding_text": " he does not therefore need so much relief in rent. It would be hypocrisy for anybody to try to conceal that, and I do not think that anybody has tried to conceal it. Certainly in the case of new tenants no power on earth can prevent the tenant from offering the rent which he thinks he can afford, and the lower his outgoings in the form of rates and so on the more he can offer in the form of rent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1517.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1526.1", "colnum": "1526", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. SANDERS", "preceding_text": "Then I go one better than my right hon. Friend, and I say I think the agricultural labourer will be the first person who will gain by it, because he will get higher wages.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1526.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1528.2", "colnum": "1528", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major BURNIE", "cue_text": "laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Major BURNIE", "preceding_text": "ember for Dumfries. My grandfather lived in the time when the Battle of Waterloo was fought. The then landowner enclosed a large part of the parish, and that is the land on which we are going to give relief to the present landlord by reducing his rates. My uncle erected his nets in the waters off the coast and was cast into Edinburgh Gaol for three months. These were all poor men. My father&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1528.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1528.2", "colnum": "1528", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURAL RATES BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Major BURNIE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major BURNIE", "preceding_text": "was fought. The then landowner enclosed a large part of the parish, and that is the land on which we are going to give relief to the present landlord by reducing his rates. My uncle erected his nets in the waters off the coast and was cast into Edinburgh Gaol for three months. These were all poor men. My father&#8212;[ laughter ]&#8212;I am sorry to go into these personal and family details&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1528.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-11", "file": "debates1923-07-11a.xml", "sha256": "8952d59e1c054eb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1533.7", "colnum": "1533", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "preceding_text": "My right hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury says he hopes to put it down as the second Order after the East India Loans Bill, which I do not think will take more than an hour, or, at the outside, an hour and a half. That will give full time, and I hope that, as everyone is anxious to get home, it will be convenient to the House&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-11a.1533.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-12", "file": "debates1923-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "a504f38c2937e276", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1564.1", "colnum": "1564", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "Will the right hon. Gentleman consider the case of Members who neglect their duties by never coming here at all, and could not we have payment by results in this House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1564.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-12", "file": "debates1923-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "a504f38c2937e276", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1579.4", "colnum": "1579", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; RUHR OCCUPATION.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "Rubbish!", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount CURZON", "preceding_text": "Is it not a fact that a child has died from confluent small-pox at Gloucester, and that a grave responsibility will rest on those who, like the hon. Member, keep on putting these questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1579.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-12", "file": "debates1923-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "a504f38c2937e276", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1579.6", "colnum": "1579", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; RUHR OCCUPATION.", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Withdraw!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SPEAKER", "preceding_text": "The question only asked for figures, and any hon. Member is entitled to ask for information.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1579.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-12", "file": "debates1923-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "a504f38c2937e276", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1590.0", "colnum": "1590", "heading": "GERMAN REPARATION.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "May I ask one question?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1590.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-12", "file": "debates1923-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "a504f38c2937e276", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1663.3", "colnum": "1663", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel WATTS-MORGAN", "cue_text": "Cheers.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel WATTS-MORGAN", "preceding_text": "d do the necessary work. When a request is made for the oath in Welsh the reply invariably made by the sitting magistrates is that they have not the official form of the Welsh oath to be administered. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Give us it. It is very simple and easy, and is as follows: Yr ydwyf yn tynghedu fad y dystiolaeth a rhoddaf i gynwys y 'Gwir,' yr holl 'Wir,' a dim ond y 'Gwir,' fel yr atebaf i Dduw.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1663.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-12", "file": "debates1923-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "a504f38c2937e276", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1679.2", "colnum": "1679", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHARLES BUXTON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHARLES BUXTON", "preceding_text": "e he will not put me off with mere political prejudice against these gentlemen's opinions. I hope he will not endeavour to dispose of the matter by raising a cloud of political prejudice, which is so easy to raise, because this is really a question worth answering. What is the objection to having these gentlemen here? Are they going, in three or four weeks, to upset the British Constitution&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1679.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-12", "file": "debates1923-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "a504f38c2937e276", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1731.1", "colnum": "1731", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Vested interest!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "preceding_text": "evidence of hundreds being saved and got hold of in time. I believe the Home Secretary will bring a perfectly fair mind to bear on this subject. It is a moral question, to which the country, more and more, will awaken, because women are going to see whether they cannot prevent immorality. We are not so stupid as not to know that there is a good deal of immorality that goes on that no law can stop.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1731.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-12", "file": "debates1923-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "a504f38c2937e276", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1745.2", "colnum": "1745", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRISONS, ENGLAND AND WALES.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "prisons are the worst. I never in my life attended religious services where I have been more blasphemed in thought and word than in these prison chapels. The idea of thinking about religion when there are a dozen men standing on platforms to see that I do not speak a word to my fellow men or look in any way that is not straight ahead, and then to be told that we are \"Dear, beloved brethren\"&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-12a.1745.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1760.1", "colnum": "1760", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "May I say, before I move my Amendment, that the only really important Amendment would be to reject the Bill on Third Reading? I have not the slightest doubt that if a Vote by ballot be taken by the House on that issue the Bill will be rejected on Third Reading.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1760.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1766.4", "colnum": "1766", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "ents in a previous Debate as to the effect of stimulants on people under a certain age. I wish to call the attention of the Noble Lady and of hon. Members who support the Bill to the speech made by the hon. Member for London University (Sir S. Russell-Wells) only a few days ago, in which he said that beer was a food and contained a certain quantity of nourishment and also that tea was a pure drug.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1766.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1766.4", "colnum": "1766", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": " formed, that a habit of some degree of dependence on alcohol may be contracted and it is a noteworthy fact that in nearly 90 per cent. of cases of confirmed inebriety the addiction to drink began between fifteen and twenty-five years of age. That is the danger period.'\"&#8212;[OFFICIAL REPORT, 9th March, 1923; cols. 917&#8211;8, Vol. 161.] Let us see what Sir James Crichton-Browne really did say.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1766.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1781.0", "colnum": "1781", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is dry.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "preceding_text": " of his party who live in constant terror of Prohibition. I would like to warn hon. Members, when they say that these vexatious restrictions are against the free working of a free people, that civilization is built up of vexatious restrictions. None of us are entirely free to do what we would like. For instance, every time I pass the pond in St. James Park I feel I would like to take a swim in it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1781.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1783.0", "colnum": "1783", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; INTOXICATING LIQUOR (SALE TO PERSONS UNDER EIGHTEEN) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain Viscount CURZON", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Viscount CURZON", "preceding_text": "hy of hon. Members opposite&#8212;the Bill does absolutely nothing to prevent the employment of juveniles under 18 in taprooms. If the professions were honest that it is quite wrong to have young people in a taproom, and all the rest of it, surely it would have been equally correct for the Bill to provide that young people should not be employed in taprooms. I say it is a very serious thing&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1783.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1799.0", "colnum": "1799", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. WOOD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: You would have to do something then!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. WOOD", "preceding_text": "with him. I do not see how anyone can go into the Lobby with him, because he must be aware that at the end of this month, on 31st July, the Rent Restrictions Act of 1920 comes to an end, and that means that all the protection given by that Act to the tenants of this country ceases. If we carry this Amendment, it simply means that every tenant in this country will be left with no protection at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1799.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1805.1", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FOOT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FOOT", "preceding_text": " would be caused by refusing to grant an Order or judgment for possession than by granting it. The word \"before\" is used instead of the word \"after\" in the previous Act of Parliament. In the previous Act of Parliament the advantage which Parliament intended to give was given to the earlier owner. Now this advantage, and a very important advantage, is given only to those who have bought since 1922.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1805.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1829.0", "colnum": "1829", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Then why not decontrol now?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The MINISTER of HEALTH (Mr. Neville Chamberlain)", "preceding_text": " upon that point. The real difference that divides us is: What is the best method of restoring to the tenant his freedom of choice. Hon. Members opposite believe that if you continue until 1930 the provisions of the existing Act of 1920 by that time sufficient houses will be built to allow decontrol. We on this side believe that as long as you continue these restrictions you will never get houses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1829.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1835.10", "colnum": "1835", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "met. The hon. Member for Central Newcastle (Mr. Trevelyan), who spoke last, followed the example of other hon. Members on that side of the House in speaking as if the Bill came to an end in 1925. I have already dealt with that point. I would now remind the House that, in the opinion of the Labour party, by 1930 there will be sufficient housing accommodation to make any further control unnecessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1835.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-13", "file": "debates1923-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "2c62823cd1fd203f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1838.3", "colnum": "1838", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide, divide!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": " to say this, that the right hon. Gentleman has totally failed to meet the gravamen of the case, which has been put in the Debate by my hon. Friend the Member for Bodmin (Mr. Foot) and by my hon. and learned Friend the Member for South Shields (Mr. Harney). A case was put in regard to the matter of alternative accommodation on the legal interpretation of these words, and I wish to point out&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-13a.1838.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1864.3", "colnum": "1864", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; S. S. \"LEVIATHAN\"", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. DAVISON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. DAVISON", "preceding_text": "Is my hon. Friend aware that, according to the Canadian Press that has just come over, a further grave inconvenience has been caused in this way, that a British ship sailing from Canada to Australia, which stopped at Honolulu, has been obliged to go on \"dry\" from that part, and&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1864.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1878.4", "colnum": "1878", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSE OF COMMONS REFRESHMENT DEPARTMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order, order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "preceding_text": "Does the hon. Gentleman say that he is not aware of the prices being higher here than outside? If so, then he has no knowledge&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1878.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1879.0", "colnum": "1879", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSE OF COMMONS REFRESHMENT DEPARTMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": "Is it true that the hon. Gentleman has just said that the Kitchen Committee has no control over the kitchen?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1879.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1928.1", "colnum": "1928", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GRENFELL", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Or Russia.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GRENFELL", "preceding_text": "om they would pay more, as was the case in the days when the French railways were being built. What will be the result of the policy which hon. Members opposite are advocating? Let us recall the fact that Britain is four-fifths urban, and in such a country that policy is running straight to starvation. Why not try this on a country that can support itself? Why not get Denmark or Germany to try it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1928.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1928.1", "colnum": "1928", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GRENFELL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GRENFELL", "preceding_text": " you straight to starvation? Although I heard a voice from the other side say that the lady whose opinion I quoted about the Georgian Republic was not to be accepted as an authority, yet I conclude with a quotation from another Labour leader, who, I have no doubt, some hon. Members will also disown&#8212;a Labour leader who has been in control of more labour than any hon. Member on the other side.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1928.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1928.1", "colnum": "1928", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. GRENFELL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. GRENFELL", "preceding_text": "voice from the other side say that the lady whose opinion I quoted about the Georgian Republic was not to be accepted as an authority, yet I conclude with a quotation from another Labour leader, who, I have no doubt, some hon. Members will also disown&#8212;a Labour leader who has been in control of more labour than any hon. Member on the other side. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Name!\"] I refer to Mr. Gompers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1928.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1930.0", "colnum": "1930", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. IRVING", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about yours?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. IRVING", "preceding_text": "iety. The right hon. Member for West Swansea said that capitalism had existed as long as the world had existed. I am bound to say that, in so far as I have read the speeches on this Motion, his was about the cleverest&#8212;and I still think it is the cleverest&#8212;that has been delivered against our position, but what speech is it? It is the speech of a political advocate pleading for his side.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1930.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1935.1", "colnum": "1935", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. IRVING", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. IRVING", "preceding_text": "illed and maimed whose lives and limbs could be saved, if not profit but the welfare of the men who work for the community were the first consideration. Let us for a moment consider the railways a little further. We have been urging the nationalisation of the railways, and, in my humble judgment, the late Government had some intention of nationalising those railways, but they thought better of it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1935.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1936.3", "colnum": "1936", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. IRVING", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. IRVING", "preceding_text": "ey said, \"We will no longer live in idleness. We will go down into the world's market and do something for our living.\" They would meet with the sternest opposition from the working-classes everywhere, who would say to them, \"Go back to the place whence you came. There is no need for you to come and work. You are only taking the bread out of our mouths.\" I once said to a lady friend of mine&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1936.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1", "colnum": "1942", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"Save it, and spend it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "Then there is nowhere else where they can invest it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1", "colnum": "1942", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "Then there is nowhere else where they can invest it. [AN HON. MEMBER: \"Save it, and spend it.\"] It is exactly the same thing as expropriating it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1", "colnum": "1942", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "Then there is nowhere else where they can invest it. [AN HON. MEMBER: \"Save it, and spend it.\"] It is exactly the same thing as expropriating it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] However, it is quite appropriate that that statement should come from him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1", "colnum": "1942", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "g. This is the worst country in the world to make an experiment of that kind. You might make it in a country with great inherent resources, agricultural and mineral, and if it failed you could restore the position after a good many years of suffering. You could do it in a great agricultural community like Russia. There will be confusion, chaos, and a good deal of distress, but Russia will survive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1", "colnum": "1942", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "nsion with regard to the future? I know the Prime Minister suggested in his statement on Thursday that the present condition of things was very largely due to the Ruhr Valley, and there are multitudes of people in this country who believe that the moment that question is settled all will be well, exchanges will be restored, trade will improve, and you will recover your lost prosperity. Is that so?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1", "colnum": "1942", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "en he denounced the immorality of Germany in spending money upon constructing new canals while she owed money to other people. A new France has sprung up&#8212;not out of the ruins of the old&#8212;but out of the devastation of a single province. She has increased enormously her capacity for production, of the very things we are selling in foreign countries. In Germany the same thing is happening.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1942.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1977.0", "colnum": "1977", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEWBOLD", "preceding_text": "if possible, but outside if that is not possible. You will then be faced with the alternative, that is, expropriation. You will have the land and capital taken away from you and vested in the working classes organised maybe in the general council of trade unions, maybe in the workshop committees, but certainly controlled, held, and operated by some body thrown up in the excitement of the conflict.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1977.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1988.0", "colnum": "1988", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "The FIRST LORD of the ADMIRALTY (Mr. Amery)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The FIRST LORD of the ADMIRALTY (Mr. Amery)", "preceding_text": " to make one or two observations. I noticed, with some interest, that the hon. Member for Colne Valley, in making his case that the state of the world had shown no improvement in spite of all the development of science, and that therefore some wholly drastic, new proposal was necessary, asked the House more particularly to follow him in a passage from Mr. Henry George, making that same case&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1988.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1988.0", "colnum": "1988", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "The FIRST LORD of the ADMIRALTY (Mr. Amery)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The FIRST LORD of the ADMIRALTY (Mr. Amery)", "preceding_text": "ought. After all that, when the country had decided what kind of Government it would have, it would only have affected the fate of a very small section of those who have to take part in industry. The whole of the rest of the mechanism of industry would consist of civil servants and Government employ&#233;s, of men who, once they were in the Service, would be subjected to practically no test&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.1988.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2004.3", "colnum": "2004", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Free!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "returned with an increased majority? The right hon. Gentleman opposite, elaborating that point of his about the bureaucracy, had an idea that under Socialism some great central body was going to sit in London and control all the production of the country. Is not that very largely true now? What about all your trusts, all your federations of industry, what about all your organisations of employers?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2004.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2004.3", "colnum": "2004", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "about all your trusts, all your federations of industry, what about all your organisations of employers? [An HON. MEMBER: \"Free!\"] Nominally, it may be, but there is the control. The right hon. Gentleman did not talk about freedom; it was simply the question of the organisation. I do not like it. I am opposed to it. As a matter of fact, there is going to be very little bureaucracy under Socialism.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2004.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2004.3", "colnum": "2004", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": " was right, and it was not merely because his pocket was full. I object to the human spirit being limited and confined in its freedom by embattled econo- mic power such as capitalism affords to-day. Talk about liberty to-day. Why, we have not got a whiff of liberty yet. The great mass of our people are not free to choose a destiny for their own children, and to live lives that would be good lives.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2004.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2004.3", "colnum": "2004", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "ed in its freedom by embattled econo- mic power such as capitalism affords to-day. Talk about liberty to-day. Why, we have not got a whiff of liberty yet. The great mass of our people are not free to choose a destiny for their own children, and to live lives that would be good lives. [ Interruption. ]The great mass of our people are not free to say what they like and to think what they like&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2004.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-16", "file": "debates1923-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "8f015fb41434203e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2009.6", "colnum": "2009", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CAPITALIST SYSTEM.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "old state and the new. He said: \"In the old state we used to work from here\"&#8212;touching his shoulder&#8212;\"to there\"&#8212;pointing to the end of his pick&#8212;\"because then we worked for capitalists. In the new state, when we think of the children who are enjoying our coal in Tiflis, we not only work from the shoulder to the pick, but we work with our hearts as well.\" That is my experience.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-16a.2009.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2084.0", "colnum": "2084", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EAST INDIA LOANS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ARTHUR MICHAEL SAMUEL", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"The fact is that the &#163;50,000,000 does not go across to the United States. It is goods that would go across.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ARTHUR MICHAEL SAMUEL", "preceding_text": " the outcome of an obsolete Statute. Recently the Bank of England, considering the public interests of Great Britain, has put up the price of money by one per cent. in order to prevent a drain of money to the United States. Suppose this &#163;50,000,000 were raised in England. Suppose it is not spent as I believe it will be spent; suppose that it goes to purchase railway material in America&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2084.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2100.1", "colnum": "2100", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EAST INDIA LOANS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": "I have listened to this Debate with great interest, but most of the hon. Members taking part have spoken from the standpoint of commerce. The rights of the people of India have not been recognised.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2100.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2101.1", "colnum": "2101", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EAST INDIA LOANS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Have you been there?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "preceding_text": "we must place these conditions upon the people of India. Probably they are looking for a seat for the chairman of the \"Big Five\" Who fixes the rate of interest? What control has this House over the rates of interest charged for the use of money? We have no control. A certain number of people meet in Lombard Street or Throgmorton Street or Petticoat Lane and decide what the price of money is to be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2101.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2173.1", "colnum": "2173", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "timents, the fears, and the general atmosphere of 1914 after War had been declared. At that time it was decided, when the whole country, I am afraid, or a very large portion of it, was suffering from acute attacks of spionitis, to bring in this very ridiculous enactment, and then, in 1919, when we were still suffering from shell-shock, the gentlemen I have mentioned, headed by Mr. Bottomley&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2173.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2179.2", "colnum": "2179", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "t power. The right hon. Gentleman must not shake his head, because he knows perfectly well that he and I have had correspondence on this subject, and he knows that he has kept men in prison in this way and then sent them abroad. What has been the charge against them? They are his political opponents; they happen to hold Communist views, and because they are Communists they are treated in this way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2179.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2179.2", "colnum": "2179", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "r. If we are going to keep out aliens, then let us keep them all out. The Government does not do that; the Whites and the Fascisti are allowed in. You say you keep the Communists out because they are not democrats, and because they want to overturn in a violent way order over here. Yet you welcome Mussolini here, and people like him, who have done far worse than ever the Bolshevists did in Russia.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2179.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2181.4", "colnum": "2181", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "u have no right, even although you disagree with them, to keep them out merely because they are Communists. It is not a question of their coming here to take the bread out of people's mouths. The right hon. Gentle-knows that the people about whom I have written to him simply came here in the course of going to Moscow, and that they were not allowed to travel through this country from port to port.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2181.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2182.0", "colnum": "2182", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Viscount CURZON", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount CURZON", "preceding_text": "On a point of Order. What has this to do with&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2182.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2184.2", "colnum": "2184", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Captain EVANS", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain EVANS", "preceding_text": "I do not expect the hon. Members above the Gangway will agree with what I have to say. I suggest that they seem to have lost sight altogether of the fact that England to-day is the only nation that stands for civilisation in Europe. If we are to have people coming to our country and poisoning the minds of our people&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2184.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2185.0", "colnum": "2185", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": " call us aliens or by any other name. It makes no difference to us what we are designated in this House. We have come to put forward a point of view, not to sue for peace with the capitalist class, but to fight the capitalist class. Certainly we are aliens to your point of view. I have no desire, neither have my colleagues whom I have just left, and whom this House has the audacity to expel&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2185.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2185.4", "colnum": "2185", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": " have men assembled in this day and generation, to pose before the world as the last speaker did, and express the sentiment which surges through the average mind in this House, that the British race is the greatest race in the world. They believe they are a heaven-born race sent here to rule, and that all is better and well in our native land through their ruling&#8212;the murderers that they are.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2185.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2186.5", "colnum": "2186", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir; I agree with you. Nevertheless, it is very neces- sary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2186.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2187.3", "colnum": "2187", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order, order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "t been so, and because of the trend of development in the Labour movement, I would not have intervened now. This blow is aimed at the working classes by the Government of the country who wish to prohibit people coming into the country, and the people they wish to keep out are the working classes. The British Empire is made up of countries all over the world and the Union Jack&#8212;that rag&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2187.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2191.1", "colnum": "2191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, yes!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "That is quite irrelevant. He was an independent Member in this House, and never had been a recognised Liberal candidate at any time when he was elected to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2191.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2191.6", "colnum": "2191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not last night!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "Yes, but not of our brand. There is also a certain variety in the strength of the Socialism above the Gangway.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2191.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2191.6", "colnum": "2191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "nd the Government of that day resisted it. The present First Commissioner of Works was at that time Under-Secretary at the Home Office and he opposed making this provision permanent. He said it would only be temporary and it was on the ground that it was temporary that even under those conditions the House accepted it. All these conditions have changed. We are not worried about the Germans to-day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2191.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2214.2", "colnum": "2214", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"In case of accidents.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "ident of the Board of Trade. Of course, if the Merchandise Marks Bill were going to pass this Session it would be unnecessary to have this at all, because the existing Order continues until 31st December of this year. Accordingly, when the right hon. Gentleman says it is necessary to have this he obviously contemplates that the Merchandise Marks Bill will not go through before 31st December, 1923.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2214.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2215.1", "colnum": "2215", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PETO", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Hear, Hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PETO", "preceding_text": "House attempting to deal with such absurd and petty details! Take the simple consumption of strawberries and cream. It is illegal to sell strawberries and cream after a certain hour, but you can, with perfect legality, sell strawberries and ice cream because the first are soft, fruit, and the second has a special Act of Parliament to itself. Really I do not think I need go very much further&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2215.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2221.0", "colnum": "2221", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. LOCKER-LAMPSON", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"It is a very important matter.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. LOCKER-LAMPSON", "preceding_text": "At this very late hour of the night I do not think the House will expect me to make a very long reply.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2221.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2247.1", "colnum": "2247", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JOHNSTON", "preceding_text": " that arranged for. But when the Bill that has been introduced into the House comes on for Second Reading we shall be able to discuss all the technical details. The point with which I am concerned now is that the local authorities, if you will allow them, could get cheap money instead of financing housing schemes at 5 and 6 per cent. They could be financing housing schemes at less than 3 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2247.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2270.3", "colnum": "2270", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order, order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "preceding_text": " unearthly hour after waiting all night, it is not going to lead to the friendly feeling that should exist in the House of Commons. I am not using any warning or giving out any threats, but, knowing my fellow-countrymen as I do, this kind of conduct is not going to meet with success in the House of Commons. I hope now that the House will go on with the business, or, by God, you will know about it!", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2270.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2271.0", "colnum": "2271", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHORT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHORT", "preceding_text": " the Solicitor-General as to the point raised, or we shall be compelled to oppose the Adjournment if it be persisted in. The Bill is introduced very shortly with no complete statement of the provisions and following a speech by one or two Members we get the Adjournment removed. This is not the way in which the House ought to be treated. In my opinion it is an act of gross discourtesy to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2271.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-17", "file": "debates1923-07-17a.xml", "sha256": "968ca055a9aa2d76", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2273.1", "colnum": "2273", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SULLIVAN", "preceding_text": "I would suggest that Friday is not a convenient day for Scottish Members who wish to get home.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-17a.2273.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-18", "file": "debates1923-07-18a.xml", "sha256": "d17088c2efaee717", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-18a.2278.4", "colnum": "2278", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; LIQUOR REGULATIONS (UNITED STATES).", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Speech!", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. DAVISON", "preceding_text": " a case like this, which is on all fours with the American practice, surely it is advisable for the Foreign Office to inquire into the matter, and assuming that the facts are correct, may I ask whether the American Government have had their attention called to their own despatch to the Spanish Government on this matter, in which they said that, while recognising the right of that Government&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-18a.2278.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-18", "file": "debates1923-07-18a.xml", "sha256": "d17088c2efaee717", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-18a.2281.5", "colnum": "2281", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; GEORGIA (SOVIET OUTRAGES).", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Order!", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "I think it is a very proper question, in view of the statement in the question on the Paper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-18a.2281.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-18", "file": "debates1923-07-18a.xml", "sha256": "d17088c2efaee717", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-18a.2423.3", "colnum": "2423", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Can you raise steam with industrial alcohol?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARDIE", "preceding_text": "used its powers, we could be on the highway to producing all that power, not only in petroleum form, but in the form that is much better, namely, industrial alcohol. If we wanted even to go on a petroleum basis, all that we have to do in this country is to use known plant in order to take from the coal oil that would give us independence, and at the same time give us pure atmosphere in our cities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-18a.2423.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-18", "file": "debates1923-07-18a.xml", "sha256": "d17088c2efaee717", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-18a.2449.3", "colnum": "2449", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It does not represent the seamen!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME", "preceding_text": "That is not so. That was the recommendation of the Committee, but it is not a recommendation which I accepted. What I propose was that the cost of the service should be borne half and half. That is the present position. I am prepared to go into this question with the Treasury and look into the cost. I think I ought to get the opinion of the National Maritime Board.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-18a.2449.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2539.7", "colnum": "2539", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "preceding_text": "n they were called into the War Council, because they were cross-examined by men who were accustomed to talking, whereas they belonged to the silent Service. Besides, it is not the business of a naval officer to give answers. It is the business of the First Lord, and I propose to ask him one or two questions now about this new naval base at Singapore. Have they considered the climate of Singapore?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2539.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2547.1", "colnum": "2547", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Agreed!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "preceding_text": "That is the point. If you are going to send a battle fleet to Singapore, you must send destroyers, submarines, and all other things&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2547.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2547.1", "colnum": "2547", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "preceding_text": "That is the point. If you are going to send a battle fleet to Singapore, you must send destroyers, submarines, and all other things&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Agreed!\"]&#8212;Now we have got something. Let us assume what is the principal object of the British Navy, to defend our trade. May I give the opinion of some very distinguished admirals? Sir Percy Scott is one&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2547.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2550.3", "colnum": "2550", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LAMBERT", "preceding_text": "Why did they contract themselves out of it? I do not suppose they would have done so if it was going to be a disadvantage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2550.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2551.2", "colnum": "2551", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander BURNEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\" and \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander BURNEY", "preceding_text": "losing merchant vessels in April. 1917, at the rate of 800,000 tons per month. We were losing them at 1,000,000 tons per month, and there was no doubt that the British Empire was in a most frightfully serious position at that time. That is an undoubted fact, but what were the reasons? The reasons were, first of all, that the right hon. Member for Paisley (Mr. Asquith), who has gone to sleep&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2551.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2563.0", "colnum": "2563", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir GUY GAUNT", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You are not helping to make it work!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir GUY GAUNT", "preceding_text": "leep in peace. It is not a question of a race of armaments, but if you do not keep abreast of the times you are coming to an end. There is no question about that. It is all very well to talk about the League of Nations. I agree with the League of Nations. I hope it will work; but I do not see any prospect of it functioning for a great many years and, therefore, you must be ready for contingencies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2563.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2572.0", "colnum": "2572", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "An HON. MEMBER", "cue_text": "Fear God, and keep your powder dry!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "preceding_text": "alf the text: When a strong man armed keepeth his palace his goods are in peace. He did not quote the succeeding verse, which is as follows: But when a stronger than he shall come upon him and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusteth and divideth his spoils. Christ, when He was pointing the moral, said: Yea, rather blessed are they that hear the Word of God, and keep it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2571.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2573.1", "colnum": "2573", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Everything.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. DARBISHIRE", "preceding_text": "What has that to do with it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2573.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2581.6", "colnum": "2581", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Viscount CURZON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Chinese War\" and \"Egypt!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount CURZON", "preceding_text": "e any feeling in Japan that this is an aggressive act. They know the history of the British Empire. The British Navy has never been used, as far as I know, for aggressive purposes. It has always been used to police the oceans. It has always been known as the defender of the weak against the strong, and I challenge hon. Members opposite to give an instance where it has been used in any other sense.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2581.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2581.6", "colnum": "2581", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Viscount CURZON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who said that?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount CURZON", "preceding_text": "id for us during the War, and how ready they have always been to respond whenever we have needed their help, we cannot say to them, \"We are very sorry that you are in danger, but we cannot come to your assistance.\" Here is a case where, I believe, and I have heard it stated by very eminent authorities, that both in Australia and in New Zealand this naval base of Singapore is very ardently desired.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2581.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2606.0", "colnum": "2606", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not in exports!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": "ry subtle intelligence. They are not fools. They want to know why European Powers want to fix naval and aerial bases in Eastern waters. You say it is for your trade, but what about their trade? Have they no trade interests? Have the 500,000,000 Asiatics nothing to compare in trade interests with the 400,000,000 European or white races? As compared with trade matters, they would beat us every time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2606.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2610.3", "colnum": "2610", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscountess ASTOR", "preceding_text": "ade, I do not know that the British Navy has ever interfered with the trade of any other nation, and I do not see why we have to assume that by going East the Navy is going to interfere with trade. I think we have to make up our minds when we talk about the yellow peril that, if we are to have the progressive civilisation which we are asking for, the Anglo-Saxon race will have to police the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2610.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2612.7", "colnum": "2612", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel MAURICE ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel MAURICE ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "l Conference, but I equally realise that the Government would not have brought in this scheme unless it had in some form or another taken the opinion of the overseas Dominions. In regard to Singapore proper, let me point out to the hon. Member for Silvertown, who I am sorry is not in his place, that the establishment of a base in Singapore does not mean inconvenience to the United States or Japan.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2612.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2613.1", "colnum": "2613", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Colonel ALEXANDER", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why build the ships.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel ALEXANDER", "preceding_text": "re you are! We have been told by the hon. and gallant Gentleman the Member for Maidstone (Commander Bellairs) that a battleship costs about &#163;7,000,000. If you send your British Navy to fight, wherever it may be, at a distance of something like eight or nine thousand miles, and if one single battleship is sunk, you sink &#163;7,000,000 without any means of recovery or any means of saving life.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2613.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2629.1", "colnum": "2629", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE", "preceding_text": "I make this statement, which, to the best of my belief, is true. I am not in a Court of Law, where I have to produce my witnesses and my evidence. I make this statement, and if it is incorrect I have no doubt that we shall be told so. I do not make my statement on any official basis, but I say, unofficially, that in the conversations that was the general feeling.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2629.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2649.0", "colnum": "2649", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"Anybody!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": " is not intended for aggression, and I think that may be taken almost as axiomatic, but that it is for protection, as the First Lord informed us in his lucid statement. I ask either the First Lord or the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty to answer specifically a question which has been put more than once, but to which no answer has been forthcoming. Against whom are we protecting ourselves?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2649.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-19", "file": "debates1923-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "d9b6695bc1b0c910", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2652.0", "colnum": "2652", "heading": "NAVY ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "Sir BERTRAM FALLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Vote against them!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir BERTRAM FALLE", "preceding_text": " their best to get to the quarter deck. But we must be fair. Every retired and pensioned Army officer, non-commissioned officer and man, who became pensionable during the War, received pay and pension, but in the Navy, at first, only the already pensioned men received pay plus pension. This will prove with how little wisdom the world is governed. The Treasury will not face their duty until forced.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-19a.2652.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-20", "file": "debates1923-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "74e573e70ec2c1e5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2720.0", "colnum": "2720", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNIVERSITIES OF OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RAWLINSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RAWLINSON", "preceding_text": "of the University. The governing body of the University have declared twice absolutely clearly on that point. In the last three years by big majorities they have declared against it. The hon. Member for Central Newcastle (Mr. Trevelyan) has indulged in the ordinary sneer at those who do not reside in Cambridge, and he talked about the strange conglomeration of London lawyers and country clergymen.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2720.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-20", "file": "debates1923-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "74e573e70ec2c1e5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2720.0", "colnum": "2720", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNIVERSITIES OF OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. RAWLINSON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why should men govern women's education?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. RAWLINSON", "preceding_text": " allow the privileges of education, examination, and even titular degrees to a large body of people who have settled near them, and yet should decline at the same time to allow them to have the power of governing the University, which very many of us think is a bad thing, and it is better when you are dealing with men's education to have men to control it, because there are very many points&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2720.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-20", "file": "debates1923-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "74e573e70ec2c1e5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2734.0", "colnum": "2734", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNIVERSITIES OF OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JOHN MURRAY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JOHN MURRAY", "preceding_text": " views are just one of the habits of that party, and that whatever had been the subject discussed to-day they would have been found standing up for State money being thrown, perhaps by force, upon local or voluntary bodies and for the imposition, following that grant, of the largest measure of State control. Therefore I ask the House to discount everything that came from that quarter of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2734.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-20", "file": "debates1923-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "74e573e70ec2c1e5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2766.0", "colnum": "2766", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNIVERSITIES OF OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "ies allowance is made to their parents not alone for the cost of their subsistence but for the wage which they might have been earning had they remained at the bench. When this question is being considered by these two Statutory Committees they ought not to consider merely the question of free education for selected individuals but also the question of compensation for their wage-earning capacity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2766.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-20", "file": "debates1923-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "74e573e70ec2c1e5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2773.0", "colnum": "2773", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UNIVERSITIES OF OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"None.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel WEDGWOOD", "preceding_text": "I think the speech of the right hon. Baronet the Member for the City of London (Sir F. Banbury) requires some reply&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-20a.2773.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.31.6", "colnum": "31", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PEACE TREATIES.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "May I ask whether British Princesses who married German Princes&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.31.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.77.1", "colnum": "77", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "s by devils or stars or something else, we go on and on and or until at last, once again, we are launched into war. That is not to be said of Singapore. Singapore stands in a totally different category, a category all by itself. Surely, if there be one rule in defensive armaments&#8212;I am using the popular jargon for the moment&#8212;it is that you should never build them until a danger appears.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.77.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.77.1", "colnum": "77", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is true!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": ". That is the result. The world cannot be indifferent to these things. The world will never be indifferent to these things. We can say that we have no intention to threaten anybody. We can say that the British Fleet, the British Air Service, and the British Army have never and never will be the instrument of oppression against any people from one end of the earth to the other. We can say all that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.77.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.81.1", "colnum": "81", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Enforce by what?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "on. Our one chance is to begin at once a policy which, whilst yielding nothing, nevertheless brings together the nations of the world, who are just as much aware as we are of the folly of these armaments, mobilising public opinion against them, and coming to international agreements that will be properly guaranteed and backed up by the necessary Government authority to enforce, if necessary&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.81.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.81.1", "colnum": "81", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"By the force behind!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "eements that will be properly guaranteed and backed up by the necessary Government authority to enforce, if necessary&#8212;[An HON. MEMBER: \"Enforce by what?\"]&#8212;enforce not, surely, by new armies, and new navies, and new air forces. If my hon. Friend does me an injury, and I take him into Court, and he has a sentence passed upon him, his sentence would not be enforced by a policeman's baton.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.81.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.89.0", "colnum": "89", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. O'NEILL", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No, for offence!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. O'NEILL", "preceding_text": ", followed by certain rumblings across the Channel which look rather as though it were intended that there should be a sequel in France. The third unfavourable factor is France's overwhelming fear for her own security. I should like to examine that matter from a rather different view-point to that usually put forward. Why are armaments required at all? Firstly, they are required for defence&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.89.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.134.0", "colnum": "134", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel SPENDER-CLAY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There was no catch in it in 1917.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel SPENDER-CLAY", "preceding_text": "loquent of our speakers, do a great deal more harm than good. The more you appeal to the United States to come in and take a hand in European politics the less likely are you to get it. America will come in when it suits her. The more you go about asking: \"Why does not America come in?\" the more will the people of the United States, or a large portion of them say, \"There is some catch in it&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.134.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.134.0", "colnum": "134", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel SPENDER-CLAY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel SPENDER-CLAY", "preceding_text": "we interfere with it. A word about another movement. Probably many hon. Members will not agree, but I cannot help thinking that the No-More-War movement, which is being fostered in various parts of the country, is a dangerous movement. It is being run largely by the Socialist party, and it is, in many parts of the country, an attempt to capture the League of Nations machinery for the Labour party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.134.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.147.0", "colnum": "147", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN THOMSON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Compulsion.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN THOMSON", "preceding_text": " them defeated by the moral power of the world which grows when the occasion arises. I deprecate some of the remarks made with regard to the attitude of this country towards the last War. I think the highest motives animated those not only on recruiting platforms but also those who went over the seas and made the great sacrifice that was called for. I am sure the highest motives animated them all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.147.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.181.1", "colnum": "181", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BERKELEY", "preceding_text": " of Nations' machinery for settling this great problem. It is perfectly true, as has been pointed out, that three of the great Powers, the United States of America, Germany and Russia, are not at present members of the League of Nations, and it is perfectly true too, as he also pointed out, that the presence of these Powers is very important for achieving the objects which the Labour party desire.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.181.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-23", "file": "debates1923-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "0cbca40ca7827f26", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.182.0", "colnum": "182", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MILITARY EXPENDITURE AND DISARMAMENT.", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "describes as \"the atmosphere of Geneva.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-23a.182.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-24", "file": "debates1923-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "848fa4af36ce136e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.204.5", "colnum": "204", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WESTWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"NO!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WESTWOOD", "preceding_text": "Is the Solicitor-General aware that under the section, under which the Regulations are placed upon the Table, there is no method of protesting unless we get the consent of the Government to discuss the Regulations?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.204.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-24", "file": "debates1923-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "848fa4af36ce136e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.225.0", "colnum": "225", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. JOYNSON-HICKS", "preceding_text": "I had better read them all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.225.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-24", "file": "debates1923-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "848fa4af36ce136e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.364.0", "colnum": "364", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HANCOCK", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HANCOCK", "preceding_text": "terminate the present method of regulating wages. I hold no brief for or against it. I had nothing whatever to do with drawing up the Regulations, and I had very little to do with the administration of it. It may not be all that one would like. I have never approved of the sliding scale method of regulating wages. I have never approved of the prices of coal being the only determining factor&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.364.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-24", "file": "debates1923-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "848fa4af36ce136e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.381.1", "colnum": "381", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LYLE-SAMUEL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LYLE-SAMUEL", "preceding_text": "ut it is a great deal to these burdened ratepayers, who hardly know how to sustain their existence. It is all very well for hon. Gentlemen above the gangway to interrupt. This is a capital sum, and they pretend to have no interest or regard for capital, but they have a great interest in capitalising human misery for party purposes. They are the greatest political capitalists in human misery&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.381.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-24", "file": "debates1923-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "848fa4af36ce136e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.394.3", "colnum": "394", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Hear, hear.!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. KIRKWOOD", "preceding_text": "to concede this point to us. It is becoming apparent to Scotland that we are getting lees from this Government, and less in this Session, than has ever been the case before. The Prime Minister the other day, when waited on regarding Scottish matters, had the hardihood to state that he had no time to deal with these Scottish matters, because there were other more important matters to be dealt with.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.394.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-24", "file": "debates1923-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "848fa4af36ce136e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.399.0", "colnum": "399", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Captain BENN", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Purely an antiquarian interest.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain BENN", "preceding_text": "Bill and that was the reason in 1913 the Government of that day passed this Extension of Polling Hours Bill But there is a further point which I wish to put. Upstairs in Committee this Amendment might have been carried if it had been pressed. After all, it is a Scottish affair. It does not concern English affairs at all, and how does it concern the hon. Member for Mossley (Mr. A. Hopkinson)&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-24a.399.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-25", "file": "debates1923-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "dafb5054268436d4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.491.8", "colnum": "491", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "The UNDER-SECRETARY of STATE for the COLONIES (Mr. Ormsby-Gore)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And Palestine?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The UNDER-SECRETARY of STATE for the COLONIES (Mr. Ormsby-Gore)", "preceding_text": "ons of recent days, of course, have been Rhodesia and Kenya, but, in view of the many questions affecting the different portions of the non-self-governing Empire, I propose to deal with the items in geographical order commencing with the West Indies, and followed by West Africa, South Africa, East Africa, Ceylon, the Eastern Colonies, the Middle East, Ireland, and the Imperial Economic Conference.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.491.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-25", "file": "debates1923-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "dafb5054268436d4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.551.0", "colnum": "551", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BANKS", "cue_text": "Interruption, and HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw&#8225;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BANKS", "preceding_text": "It has been recorded in the Press.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.551.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-25", "file": "debates1923-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "dafb5054268436d4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.551.0", "colnum": "551", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BANKS", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BANKS", "preceding_text": " I would not particularly object, but it is the persons who did least in India&#8212;as elsewhere&#8212;and just as in this country &#8225;&#8212;people who supported the conscientious objectors, and organised strikes against munitions, who are now most sentimental about the ex-service men, and say that those in India who did nothing whatever should reap the reward of the valour of those who fell.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.551.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-25", "file": "debates1923-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "dafb5054268436d4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.553.1", "colnum": "553", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BANKS", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"Your Friend&#8225;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BANKS", "preceding_text": "for Newcastle-under-Lyme, to chatter sedition, then they have to address one another in English, because they cannot understand one another's tongue. Upon this question of political equality it may be that you get in the highest type of Indian a man who, intellectually and spirtually, may be the superior of the Englishman. Many of my own Indian friends are men of the highest possible intelligence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.553.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-25", "file": "debates1923-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "dafb5054268436d4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.553.1", "colnum": "553", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BANKS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Over there&#8225;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BANKS", "preceding_text": "the highest possible intelligence. [An hon. Member: \"Your Friend&#8225;\"] Yes, I commanded Indian troops for two years, and I had amongst them some friends who would be prepared to die for me, as well as to talk for me, or vote for me. While I am prepared to admit that many of those men are spiritually and intellectually the superiors of many of those who call themselves civilised over here&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.553.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-25", "file": "debates1923-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "dafb5054268436d4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.579.3", "colnum": "579", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SNELL", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SNELL", "preceding_text": " far as that is possible, to the views of the representatives of the Ceylon Congress. It may be a bad thing that a majority of a nation should rule, but it is a worse thing that a minority should rule over a majority. This Constitution makes the minority rule the majority. I can understand why His Majesty's Government has introduced that, because it itself rules on a minority vote in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.579.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-25", "file": "debates1923-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "dafb5054268436d4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.588.0", "colnum": "588", "heading": "CLASS II.", "cue_speaker": "TheCHANCELLOR of the DUCHY of LANCASTER (Mr. J. C. C. Davidson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up&#8225;\"", "preceding_speaker": "TheCHANCELLOR of the DUCHY of LANCASTER (Mr. J. C. C. Davidson)", "preceding_text": "I think hon. Members will expect some reply to the discussion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.588.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1923-07-25", "file": "debates1923-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "dafb5054268436d4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.620.0", "colnum": "620", "heading": "CIVIL SERVICES AND REVENUE DEPARTMENTS ESTIMATES, 1923–24.", "cue_speaker": "HON.MEMBER", "cue_text": "Class VI, &#163;16,000,000.", "preceding_speaker": "MR. PRANGLE", "preceding_text": "( seated and covered ): What is the class of this vote,and what is the sum asked for?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-25a.619.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.697.3", "colnum": "697", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EDUCATION.", "cue_speaker": "Lord E. PERCY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lord E. PERCY", "preceding_text": "That is only another way of putting a question which, as I say, has been frequently debated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.697.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.753.8", "colnum": "753", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Sir ALFRED MOND", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir ALFRED MOND", "preceding_text": "ty, they will never achieve what they are meant to achieve; and the amount of money guaranteed is quite insufficient. The export credits scheme has suffiered very much from the same kind of basis. Obviously, if the Government wants to put its credit at the disposal of traders it must not be afraid occasionally of making a bad debt. Governments can afford to make a bad debt when individuals cannot.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.753.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.766.0", "colnum": "766", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WALLHEAD", "preceding_text": "ction of wages. These disputes always arise out of the attempt of the men to retain their standard, whereas the hon. Member has just told us that if it were not for these disputes wages would be better than they are at present. What with this talk about the aftermath of the War and the wastage of wealth during the War, which I do not believe for a moment has anything to do with the question&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.766.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.770.2", "colnum": "770", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ELLIS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the home market?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ELLIS", "preceding_text": "presence of so much gold, there is bound to be some crisis before very long in American trade and industry. We have that to face in the future, and very important it is from our point of view, because it may lead to the unloading of a good deal of American material on the few markets left in which we can compete to-day. We have one of our old markets left to consider, the market of Central Europe.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.770.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.775.1", "colnum": "775", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ELLIS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nationally!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ELLIS", "preceding_text": "some extent, in many places, change the dole for some real work. If we could introduce a system among the local authorities who now come here to squabble and to spend large sums of money&#8212;I Can speak feelingly for my own constituents&#8212;as to whether this little bit of a water shed belongs to them or to somebody else, and matters could be arranged differently, it would be better all round.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.775.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.803.2", "colnum": "803", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": "e chief manufacturing nation of the world. That is an important consideration. What are the basic industries of this country? I ventured last Wednesday, in the Debate on the Board of Trade Vote, to make reference to certain industries as our basic industries. I do not want now to go into details. Our basic industries are, broadly, coalmining, shipbuilding and engineering, and the shipping service.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.803.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.807.1", "colnum": "807", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They cannot send them to sea!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SHINWELL", "preceding_text": "#8212;and I feel sure the hon. Member will agree with me&#8212;that it is not a mere question of cheapness. That has nothing to do with the situation just now. As a matter of fact ships are not required. The United States of America are not likely to purchase ships from this country no matter how cheaply we can produce them, for the simple reason that they have more than they know what to do with.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.807.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.842.2", "colnum": "842", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ERNEST EVANS", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Pop!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ERNEST EVANS", "preceding_text": "hould be enabled to realise the situation in which we really are; it is imperative that we should seek to ascertain the causes of existing conditions before we seek to remedy them. 9.0 P.M. There is an advertisement which faces us on the hoardings of this city and which impresses upon us the desirability of seeing the label. I am not at all sure what the article is, but I believe it is a beverage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.842.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.848.3", "colnum": "848", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MURRAY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is what Socialism is!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MURRAY", "preceding_text": "o so and there was a crisis, we raised vast sums of money by loan for State purposes. That is plain. He said that now we are in a different kind of crisis surrounded by difficulties, and that again it is the duty of the State to raise and dispose of large sums, the Board of Trade using all its legal powers to help the nation through its difficult times. That is not Socialism, that is merely sense.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.848.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-26", "file": "debates1923-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "13b1e2507f35b7cf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.854.1", "colnum": "854", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLY.", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Tell that to the Colonies!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME", "preceding_text": "ich would make it difficult, if not impossible; but Europe buys from all the world, and we depend upon the purchasing power of Europe. It is the purchasing power of Europe which enables Europe to buy from all the great. countries, whether east, or south, or west, which have sold to Europe in the past, and they have used the credit created by their sales in Europe in order to buy from this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-26a.854.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-27", "file": "debates1923-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "6642d50208ef2aa8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.909.5", "colnum": "909", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION (SCOTLAND) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. CRAIK", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. CRAIK", "preceding_text": "tralised authorities. The authorities cannot look after them. The authorities are spread over a wide area of country, sometimes involving a journey of nearly one hundred miles from the centre, under difficult conditions, and this leaves all the more authority and power in the hands of the local officials. Officials of all sorts are people whom this House does well to be on its guard against&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.909.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-27", "file": "debates1923-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "6642d50208ef2aa8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.914.2", "colnum": "914", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION (SCOTLAND) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. WESTWOOD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. WESTWOOD", "preceding_text": "on to the Clause. We have had some informal statements but we have not had the name of one organisation which is in opposition to it. What is the attitude of the teaching profession in Scotland? Surely the right hon. Gentleman, like other Members for Scottish constituencies, has received a communication informing him that the Education Institute of Scotland is unanimously in favour of this Clause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.914.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-27", "file": "debates1923-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "6642d50208ef2aa8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.976.4", "colnum": "976", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who said that?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "is Bill passes. It is quite conceivable that in Committee hon. Members may desire either to enlarge the Clause or to remove it altogether. They will have freedom of vote in accordance with the pledge which my right hon. and learned Friend the Attorney-General has given, which was, that if upon a free vote of the Committee they decide that this Clause should be deleted, the Clause shall be deleted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.976.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-27", "file": "debates1923-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "6642d50208ef2aa8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.976.4", "colnum": "976", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL", "preceding_text": "lause or to remove it altogether. They will have freedom of vote in accordance with the pledge which my right hon. and learned Friend the Attorney-General has given, which was, that if upon a free vote of the Committee they decide that this Clause should be deleted, the Clause shall be deleted. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Who said that?\"] That was the pledge that was given by my right hon. and learned Friend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.976.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-27", "file": "debates1923-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "6642d50208ef2aa8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.982.2", "colnum": "982", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "with expectations. But he was somewhat critical. The Committee stage was taken right away. It was reported without Amendment to the House, and was read a Third time. That was penny-in-the-slot legislation. We have got away from those automatic methods in the present Parliamtnt. We can get these things discussed in the light of day on a Friday afternoon, and when there are a good many in the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.982.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-27", "file": "debates1923-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "6642d50208ef2aa8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.982.2", "colnum": "982", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "vote of the House, which not only condemned the Act of 1920, but condemned their own reform on that Act. They would be bound, at the peril of their lives, to accept the decision of the House, and I ask the House, therefore, not to be impressed by the warnings of the Solicitor-General. The fears which he cherished have no reality. No Government, still less a Government so weak as the present&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-27a.982.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1081.0", "colnum": "1081", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not yet!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir FREDERICK BANBURY", "preceding_text": "I suppose that in the Lords they are able to put their arguments in a better shape.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1081.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1084.1", "colnum": "1084", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "ermore, it is all the more important that this should be done in the case of a Bill like this, which is really being rushed through Parliament at a breakneck pace. The most important Clause of the Bill, Clause 3, was considered on Report after midnight, when the House was working under the greatest difficulties and there was no opportunity whatever for the Debate to be reported in the daily Press.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1084.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1101.5", "colnum": "1101", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. HARNEY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. HARNEY", "preceding_text": "&#163;80 until June, 1923, and then to pay me &#163;100 after June, 1923, that will put the position right. You will be paying me, up to June, 1923; the rent that is permissible under this Act; the house will be a free house then, and after that you will pay me &#163;100, because, if it were a free house, that is what I should be able to get.\" Under these circumstances, you have your tenant&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1101.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1102.2", "colnum": "1102", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBEBS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "une, 1925. I am surprised that legislation of this kind which, on the statement of the Noble Lord, is so ineffective should be accepted by Parliament. But when I hear such an innocent construction placed upon it, I wonder whether it is the right one or not. There are certain very doubtful words in this Clause about the tenancy being determined. It seems to determine the lease and tenancy together.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1102.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1105.0", "colnum": "1105", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN THOMSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. TREVELYAN THOMSON", "preceding_text": "introduced in order to enable the landlord in certain circumstances to get the higher rent. As this Clause was not in the Bill when it was previously before the House, but is completely new matter, the Government would be well advised not to press it. Surely its effect is to determine the lease and, I take it, once the lease is determined, the house passes into the category of decontrolled houses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1105.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1107.0", "colnum": "1107", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. F. GRAY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Names!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. F. GRAY", "preceding_text": " construction, and therefore it is natural that the Noble Lord the Under-Secretary should get up and speak, being a layman, with every possible confidence in giving his construction of what it means. I have no doubt that the Minister of Health, when he speaks, will speak with even greater confidence, but I would point out that, sitting below the Gangway on this side, there are six eminent lawyers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1107.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1124.1", "colnum": "1124", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RENT AND MORTGAGE INTEREST RESTRICTIONS BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FOOT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FOOT", "preceding_text": "ne, but I submit, Mr. Speaker, to the House that the Clause as it left on the Third Reading, and as it was submitted to us on the Third Reading, gives an advantage to those who became landlords since June, 1922, and exposed all earlier landlords to the necessity of proving alternative accommodation. Whatever was the intention of the Government, the wording of the Clause did bear that construction!", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1124.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1174.1", "colnum": "1174", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "The MINISTER of AGRICULTURE (Sir Robert Sanders)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The MINISTER of AGRICULTURE (Sir Robert Sanders)", "preceding_text": "he United States and the great oyster planters undertook to re-establish the beds either by making use of layings on the old natural beds and restocking them, or by the creation of new layings. The experiment was remarkably successful, and it is on account of the creation of these great beds, exploited by the method, that it is possible to obtain oysters in such quantities and at so cheap a price.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1174.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1183.0", "colnum": "1183", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. EDE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. EDE", "preceding_text": "advocates of this Bill I shall support the hon. Member for Maldon (Major Ruggles-Brise) who moved the rejection of the Bill. I do not think we ought to let pass without grave consideration the issue raised by the right hon. Baronet the Member for the City (Sir F. Banbury). I think the point was a most serious one, and he has received no answer from the Ministry or from the supporters of this Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1183.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1194.0", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TOWN COUNCILS (SCOTLAND) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for SCOTLAND (Mr. F. C. Thomson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for SCOTLAND (Mr. F. C. Thomson)", "preceding_text": "out to my hon. Friend that his proposed Clause has very serious drawbacks. It would enable one candidate in a municipal election, for instance, in the City of Glasgow, where there are 37 wards, to ask for an extension of the polling hours and to impose that extension on all the other candidates. It would either mean that, or you would have different hours of polling in different wards in the city.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1194.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1194.0", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TOWN COUNCILS (SCOTLAND) BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for SCOTLAND (Mr. F. C. Thomson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Once a year!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for SCOTLAND (Mr. F. C. Thomson)", "preceding_text": "t that has been made not only in Edinburgh but by other municipalities. It is made by the Town Clerk of Glasgow and also by the Town Council of Paisley. If you extend the hours of polling, it means that the counting has to be done at a later hour, and the result may not be declared until the following day. It means a very long day for the presiding officers and the poll clerks&#8212;a 14-hour day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1194.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1218.0", "colnum": "1218", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FRANK GRAY", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FRANK GRAY", "preceding_text": "only the preliminary to other additional powers which may hereafter be conferred upon them. In all I say I should like to draw a sharp distinction between borough magistrates and county magistrates. There is no single county magistrate who is not absolutely convinced of the superiority of the county benches over the borough benches. I speak as one who has appeared before a great number of benches.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1218.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-30", "file": "debates1923-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "7a581269e9b2a241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1218.0", "colnum": "1218", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL [Lords].", "cue_speaker": "Mr. FRANK GRAY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. FRANK GRAY", "preceding_text": "r. ] I am glad to say that so far&#8212;and I put in \"so far\" as a qualification or reservation which I know will appeal to hon. Members on the other side&#8212;it has only been in a professional capacity. With that experience, I have no hesitation in saying, that in every case and without exception, borough magistrates' benches are vastly superior to any county bench before which I have appeared.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-30a.1218.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1261.4", "colnum": "1261", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRANSPORT.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel CROFT", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ask Curzon!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel CROFT", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. and gallant Gentleman satisfied that the police take steps to see that motors do not exceed 20 miles an hour in towns?&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1261.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1262.7", "colnum": "1262", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel WATTS-MORGAN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel WATTS-MORGAN", "preceding_text": "On a point of Order. I wanted to ask the hon. and gallant Gentleman whether he is aware&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1262.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1278.6", "colnum": "1278", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NAVAL AND MILITARY PENSIONS AND GRANTS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. JONES", "preceding_text": "Owing to the unsatisfactory nature of the reply&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1278.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1309.1", "colnum": "1309", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF MEMBERS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear !\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "he alluded to the shortage of houses in Glasgow. He said something about children which I did not catch, and he then said something about saving money and I said \"Hear, hear!\" I have the OFFICIAL REPORT in my pocket, and I said \"Hear, hear!\" in such a way that if hon. Members will look at the OFFICIAL REPORT, they will see that there is no name mentioned. But in little brackets there are the words", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1309.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1310.0", "colnum": "1310", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF MEMBERS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEIL MACLEAN", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEIL MACLEAN", "preceding_text": "On a point of Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1310.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1310.0", "colnum": "1310", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF MEMBERS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. NEIL MACLEAN", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. NEIL MACLEAN", "preceding_text": "On a point of Order. [ Interruption. ] I am doing what the right hon. Gentleman did on that occasion when he rose to a point of Order. As a Glasgow Member, and as one, therefore, who comes under the statement made by the right hon. Gentleman, I should like him to quote&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1310.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1315.0", "colnum": "1315", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF MEMBERS.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. ASQUITH", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Victor Grayson!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. ASQUITH", "preceding_text": "ouse, the Leader of the Opposition and the Chairman of Ways and Means all assenting to the view that the dignity of the House had been sufficiently vindicated by a suspension of three weeks' duration, even without apology, and that the rights of constituencies must not be ignored. I do net know of any other case since 1902 where a Member's suspension has been continued more than three weeks&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1315.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1324.3", "colnum": "1324", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "refuge in the arms of the Marconi Company. I only refer to that because here we have a strange coincidence. This has only happened in the case of two Postmasters-General, and both of them began their Ministerial life in the same office. Their first Ministerial appointments were at the Ministry of Munitions and the Ministry of Munitions was the first Department which started the publicity business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1324.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1324.3", "colnum": "1324", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "to learn that the intelligence officer at the Post Office had, since the right hon. Gentleman entered upon his new office, card-indexed all his utterances since he entered the House of Commons. It would be interesting to know also whether, before this communiqu&#233;, the Postmaster-General had any communication, direct or indirect, with publicity officials. And what has happened to this official?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1324.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1402.1", "colnum": "1402", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the railways?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. BANBURY", "preceding_text": "wners of hansom cabs when the taxicabs came to London demand that they should be protected against the competition of the taxicabs? Of course not. The modes of transport alter, and if certain people invest their money in a certain mode of transport and modern methods supersede that mode of transport, I am very sorry for them, but they have to lose their money as other people have done before them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1402.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-07-31", "file": "debates1923-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "25539b919a362b40", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1403.0", "colnum": "1403", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRIVATE BUSINESS.", "cue_speaker": "Sir CHARLES WILSON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir CHARLES WILSON", "preceding_text": "at as only a municipality can deal with this question of control of traffic we ought to allow this exceedingly mild and moderate Clause to go through. I have had experience for 30 years of this matter, and I know that the corporations of the present time are practically powerless, because they are not armed with any powers for control of traffic. Only London has power to control its great traffic.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-07-31a.1403.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1440.3", "colnum": "1440", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; RUSSIA.", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY", "preceding_text": "There have been cases tried in the Courts in which the plea has been that of diplomatic immunity of the predecessor of this gentleman, and it was accepted by His Majesty's Judges.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1440.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1462.7", "colnum": "1462", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EX-SERVICE MEN.", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. DAVISON", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. DAVISON", "preceding_text": "Having regard to the fact that trade unions have received special privileges&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1462.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1478.1", "colnum": "1478", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "Was not the suggestion to which the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Central Glasgow gave approval the suggestion which has just been abandoned by the Government, and not the new suggestion of a Customs duty?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1478.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1482.0", "colnum": "1482", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "the relations of the Admiralty and the Air Force is to be made tomorrow at Question Time. There is, therefore, a third subject upon which a number of Members may wish to address the House. We have three first class subjects of debate and, in the circumstances, to limit the sitting to 5 o'clock will be imposing an undue restriction upon the rights of Members who may wish to take part in the Debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1482.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1482.0", "colnum": "1482", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Pringle!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "avely concerned about the present position. The House is to rise automatically at 5 o'clock. Those who wish to go away can go away, but undoubtedly the Prime Minister will make a speech of considerable importance, and it may take a considerable time. The Leader of the Opposition will be desirous of speaking, and I think the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Paisley (Mr. Asquith) will also speak.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1482.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1482.0", "colnum": "1482", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "away can go away, but undoubtedly the Prime Minister will make a speech of considerable importance, and it may take a considerable time. The Leader of the Opposition will be desirous of speaking, and I think the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Paisley (Mr. Asquith) will also speak. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Pringle!\"] However surprising it may be to hon. Members opposite, I have no inention of speaking.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1482.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1550.1", "colnum": "1550", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LANSBURY", "preceding_text": "arn even 1s. or 2s. a day now and then. Therefore, you cannot blame the mother for wanting the boy to go out and earn whatever he can pick up. The boy wants to do that. All of us did, or at least I did, when I was 14. I wanted the pocket money, and to feel that I was on my own. Some hon. Members on the other side never had that glorious feeling when they were 14. They were at Eton or Harrow&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1550.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1558.1", "colnum": "1558", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. BARLOW", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"In his own district.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. BARLOW", "preceding_text": "ur policy in the past, as it will be in the future, is the stimulation of trade both home and foreign. We all agree that while financial provision is necessary along the lines of the Unemployment Insurance Acts, in order to prevent starvation, it is merely a palliative. What is wanted is work and normal work&#8212;employment for each man in his normal occupation and, if possible, at a normal wage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1558.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1613.0", "colnum": "1613", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"And lawyers!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. JONES", "preceding_text": "e want is a root and branch reorganisation, and if it is a matter of schemes of employment, the pigeon-holes of Whitehall are full of them. I remember the Royal Commission of 1886 reporting in favour of great schemes of reconstruction. We have had numbers of Commissions, and all I can see as a result is that they find work for printers, and that is about the only people for whom they do find work.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1613.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1645.2", "colnum": "1645", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SEXTON", "cue_text": "HON.MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SEXTON", "preceding_text": "else! An hon. Member above the Gangway to-night called attention to the fact that during the War Government control was in operation. If the Minister of Labour were in his place I would remind him that at least Government control during the War did temporarily settle the unemployment problem, and that it was only when we returned to private enterprise that we had 1,500,000 people unemployed&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1645.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1646.3", "colnum": "1646", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. SEXTON", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"I can name one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. SEXTON", "preceding_text": " this country cannot buy food or clothes, and we have got to provide them with the means to become customers. The hon. and gallant Gentleman told us there was no unemployment in Canada. Where did he get his information from? We were told by an hon. Member above the Gangway that the only solution was emigration to the Colonies. Can he name any of our Colonies where there is not unemployment to-day?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1646.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1652.1", "colnum": "1652", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "ding for profit or not, subject to the necessary safeguards, and I am glad to hear that the right hon. Gentleman opposite felt that that was likely to be a fruitful source of employment. Then the hon. Member for Seaham (Mr. Webb) did not seem to approve of this programme. He suggested that it would be far better to apply our money to non-revenue producing schemes than to revenue-producing schemes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1652.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1654.1", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. CHAMBERLAIN", "preceding_text": "I think he did as a matter of fact.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1654.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1674.0", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "preceding_text": "talk about the depletion of our capital during war-time, that they added to their capital during war-time. When they talk about the destruction of capital during war-time, one can go through the West End and the City and see that they have lost their old offices and built big marble palaces instead, while in the country big mansions have been built where there were only humble lodges before&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1674.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1674.0", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "preceding_text": "we find, in place of their old workshops, huge capital developments and the last word in modern machinery. This great Debt is a mortgage on the life and labour of the people, held in bondage to the capitalist classes who profiteered out of them during the War. This War Debt, which is such a handicap to your industry, is almost to a penny the measure of the profiteering that went on during the War.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1674.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1678.2", "colnum": "1678", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "preceding_text": "I bow to your ruling, Mr. Speaker, but in discussing the causes which bring about this result to deal with it adequate, we must go back to some extent, and other hon. Members have referred to it&#8212;to the War period. In conclusion, I am going to say&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1678.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-01", "file": "debates1923-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "0345c003efd9d3d6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1678.2", "colnum": "1678", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION) BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. BROAD", "preceding_text": "e must go back to some extent, and other hon. Members have referred to it&#8212;to the War period. In conclusion, I am going to say&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"] I do not know that the conclusion of my speech may not take so long as that of some other Members when they are interrupted. I have often felt very cross at the difficulties of Members getting a decent hearing after the dinner hour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-01a.1678.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1772.1", "colnum": "1772", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. RAMSAY MacDONALD", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. RAMSAY MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "re pursued by concurrence, and not a combination which any one of the partners can claim to control by its own will and in its own interest. I think that that is both reasonable and proper, and, in so far as the action which has been inaugurated by my right hon. Friend since he became Prime Minister, carries out that general conception of British policy, I think he can depart on his holiday&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1772.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1777.1", "colnum": "1777", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "rmany and come to an agreement with France and Belgium and our other Allies regarding War debts. In doing that, might I beg the Government to re-explore the whole question of reparations. We have been talking about reparations, I think, in a somewhat unfortunate way, and even now the expression that is so commonly used is this, \"What can Germany pay?\" That is only a very small part of the problem.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1777.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1779.1", "colnum": "1779", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "mplete prostration of Europe. Therefore, whatever memories and feelings the word \"Germany\" may bring, we had better be reasonable and objective in mind now, and realise that a broken Germany is going to pull Europe behind it for many years down the road of impending ruin. I am only putting these questions. If the Prime Minister finds that he cannot answer them we will trust ourselves to him&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1779.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1783.3", "colnum": "1783", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ships!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman must not misrepresent me, because I did not say that. I simply said that if you put the question to yourself, \"What can Germany pay?\" that is not the solution of the whole problem of reparations&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1783.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1783.3", "colnum": "1783", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDONALD", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman must not misrepresent me, because I did not say that. I simply said that if you put the question to yourself, \"What can Germany pay?\" that is not the solution of the whole problem of reparations&#8212;[HON. MEMBERS: \"Ships!\"]&#8212;I said you must choose your forms, and one of the forms you would not choose now was payment by completely made ships&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1783.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1784.3", "colnum": "1784", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. PRINGLE", "preceding_text": "May I ask the right hon. Gentleman a fair question?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1784.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1830.1", "colnum": "1830", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Very much better!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "I should have thought the present Government would never have championed a policy of that kind, but, at any rate, what does it mean? In so far as the Prime Minister in his reply gave any indication at all as to his course of action, it was that he will continue his negotiations with a view to secure unity. Is it not really better that he should recognise the facts?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1830.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1832.1", "colnum": "1832", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Which you created.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "I did protest against it from the very first moment, but you have to take the situation as it is now.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1832.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1834.1", "colnum": "1834", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. LLOYD GEORGE", "preceding_text": "Yes, in gold, or the equivalent of gold. If hon. Members had taken the trouble to study this question&#8212;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1834.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1923-08-02", "file": "debates1923-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "cbdfe654b71ae241", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1846.1", "colnum": "1846", "heading": "RUHR AND EUROPEAN SITUATION.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNEILL", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNEILL", "preceding_text": "But it was a movement which, although as we now know, it was of vast significance, passed almost un observed in its first phase, and it was only after Kemal had established a very considerable power in Asia Minor, and had organised resistance to the Allies, that the Allied Powers began to realise what had taken place.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1923-08-02a.1846.1"}
