{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-23", "file": "debates1951-01-23a.xml", "sha256": "640f4fec976f9c7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-23a.13.8", "colnum": "13", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "No. The whole object of the exercise is to save taxpayers' money.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-23a.13.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-23", "file": "debates1951-01-23a.xml", "sha256": "640f4fec976f9c7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-23a.19.7", "colnum": "19", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And some Ministers.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "Yes, it is a matter of great public interest because a great deal of misrepresentation has been made, and if some newspapers exercised more restraint—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-23a.19.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-01-23", "file": "debates1951-01-23a.xml", "sha256": "640f4fec976f9c7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-23a.42.7", "colnum": "42", "heading": "KOREA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Nonsense.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "But will not my right hon. Friend agree that in the stage which the negotiations have now reached, the differences of opinion which make those hostilities continue do not surround Korea so much as Formosa and the Chinese place in the United Nations?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-23a.42.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-23", "file": "debates1951-01-23a.xml", "sha256": "640f4fec976f9c7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-23a.45.1", "colnum": "45", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "preceding_text": " that no hon. Member was surprised when notice was given to introduce a new Town and Country Planning Bill, although I am bound to say that I for one was rather disappointed at this mouse of a Bill which the Minister has produced because I had been expecting and hoping for something very much better. The Town and Country Planning Act, 1947, which we on this side of the House opposed at all stages—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-23a.45.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.112.0", "colnum": "112", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ROYAL NAVY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Watkinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Watkinson", "preceding_text": "Is the Parliamentary Secretary aware that certain classes of modern British destroyers, such as the Battle class, are fitted with U.S.A. gunnery equipment? The position is, therefore, that proper standardisation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.112.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.112.2", "colnum": "112", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ROYAL NAVY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Watkinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Watkinson", "preceding_text": "Would the Parliamentary Secretary tell us whether any steps are being taken in connection with American gunnery equipment now fitted in our ships?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.112.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.120.0", "colnum": "120", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "st be some time. It is desirable that the public and Members should have an opportunity of arguing and debating the matter, and we ourselves must take some little time to consider it. Therefore, I should not like to give a date. We must remember that the existing Charter runs to the end of the year, and, therefore, there is time. I think that the Government must come to some provisional conclusion", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.120.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.133.6", "colnum": "133", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINE WORKERS (MEETING WITH PRIME MINISTER)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Ask the Lord President of the Council.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I do not quite know what the hon. Member means.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.133.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.152.5", "colnum": "152", "heading": "Clause 1.—(PROHIBITION OF POACHING.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "preceding_text": "I have made no accusations against any sheriffs. I made my remarks in that way so that I should not ruffle the tempers of the landlords on the benches opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.152.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.154.1", "colnum": "154", "heading": "Clause 1.—(PROHIBITION OF POACHING.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacMillan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is the wrong year.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacMillan", "preceding_text": "Hon. Members opposite should remember that landlords did exactly that in the past. At one time it was so dangerous for a man to exercise his natural right to take a salmon that he could be hanged for it. In 1884, when the Crofters Commission was set up against the wishes of the Government, it was in order to protect the crofters against landlords.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.154.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.155.3", "colnum": "155", "heading": "Clause 1.—(PROHIBITION OF POACHING.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "I am deeply disappointed that this Amendment did not receive the support from my right hon Friends which, rightly or wrongly, like my hon. Friend the Member for the Western Isles (Mr. M. MacMillan), I imagined they would give to it. However, we have made our protest—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.155.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.156.0", "colnum": "156", "heading": "Clause 1.—(PROHIBITION OF POACHING.)", "cue_speaker": "The Chairman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "I am assuming that they evidently have, the same object—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.156.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.259.1", "colnum": "259", "heading": "Clause 12.—(APPREHENSION OF OFFENDERS.)", "cue_speaker": "The Lord Advocate", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Maintained.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Lord Advocate", "preceding_text": "proceeds bodily to carry him before a sheriff or magistrate. Nothing more calculated to create a breach of the peace is conceivable. Whereas the water bailiff or the person appointed by the Secretary of State can produce a warrant of his authority, the ordinary citizen not embraced by that definition is not able to show any such authority. Therefore what hon. Members opposite wish to see restored—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.259.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.193.0", "colnum": "193", "heading": "Clause 7.—(ILLEGAL POSSESSION OF SALMON OR TROUT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who was it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "t what was done in the Act affecting the Solway did not apply generally to the law of Scotland. The learned lawyer to whom 1 have referred said: It is a firmly fixed principle in the law of Scotland that the essential details of a charge cannot be proved by the statements of one witness alone. There must be corroborative evidence. Because of that, he gave a decision in favour of an accused person.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.193.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.200.2", "colnum": "200", "heading": "Clause 7.—(ILLEGAL POSSESSION OF SALMON OR TROUT.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How does the hon. Member know?", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "preceding_text": "The Committee would be well advised to take the advice of the Lord Advocate on this matter. The right hon. and learned Gentleman at any rate has moved about the country outside his constituency to an extent sufficient to know that when persons go poaching they do not go in large numbers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.200.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-24", "file": "debates1951-01-24a.xml", "sha256": "2abd2f2b3959adb3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.210.0", "colnum": "210", "heading": "Clause 7.—(ILLEGAL POSSESSION OF SALMON OR TROUT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Or another witness\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "vocate, I think that no Member of the Committee can be convinced of the absolute necessity for this departure from Scottish justice. The Lord Advocate himself stated that if the Amendment in the name of myself and the Amendment in the name of the hon. Member for Tradeston (Mr. Rankin) were accepted it would mean that the evidence of one witness would have to be supported by corroborative evidence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-24a.210.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.310.11", "colnum": "310", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Again?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "s. We are of opinion that at least two days will be needed for this debate. May I ask the Lord President if it would not be better that a discussion on foreign affairs should precede the debate on defence. I think that is a matter which he should carefully consider. I must also make it clear that the Opposition will wish to debate the question of the nationalisation of the iron and steel industry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.310.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.312.1", "colnum": "312", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Fishing.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I should hope that it will be weeks. The long catalogue of requests which the right hon. Gentleman raised leaves me a little bit speechless. I suppose he will leave a little time for the ordinary business of the legislative programme which has to be attended to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.312.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.312.1", "colnum": "312", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Both.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "ill take them into account. As to whether any re-adjustment can be made in business for next week to allow a debate on the fuel situation, we shall certainly consider that and we shall be willing to discuss it through the usual channels. I cannot promise, but we will see what can be done. I agree with the right hon. Gentleman that the defence or foreign affairs debate, whichever it may be or both—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.312.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.312.2", "colnum": "312", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How many decisions do you want?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "s, but I trust that coal will be arranged for this coming week because it is a burning question in every sense of the word. With regard to iron and steel, our view is that this Measure will greatly hamper rearmament, that it is put forward not on merits but for political purposes, and that it constitutes a grave and direct issue between the parties and should be brought to a decision in the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.312.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.313.0", "colnum": "313", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I only heard about the fuel debate this morning. We shall want to think about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.313.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.313.0", "colnum": "313", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Ask the country.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": " Gentleman does not come along the next minute with a white sheet around him as if he were a saint, because he is not. We will think about the fuel debate and discussions can go on through the usual channels. On iron and steel, however, where exactly the same issue is involved of the Opposition starting up party political tactical moves—which I am not complaining about at all—these precise issues—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.313.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.313.0", "colnum": "313", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"By a majority.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": ", because he is not. We will think about the fuel debate and discussions can go on through the usual channels. On iron and steel, however, where exactly the same issue is involved of the Opposition starting up party political tactical moves—which I am not complaining about at all—these precise issues—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Ask the country.\"]—the country was asked twice about it and the country decided—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.313.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.314.2", "colnum": "314", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You have done it already.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "May I ask the right hon. Gentleman if he will answer the question I put to him, whether, if a formal Motion is put down by the Opposition on the question of iron and steel as a Vote of Censure, as we have a right to do—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.314.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.314.5", "colnum": "314", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, you have.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I have not refused yet.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.314.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.315.1", "colnum": "315", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Meat.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "May I ask my right hon. Friend, if the internecine warfare is now over, whether he would bear in mind that there is another subject with which the people of this country are at the moment gravely concerned—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.315.1", "colnum": "315", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Houses.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "May I ask my right hon. Friend, if the internecine warfare is now over, whether he would bear in mind that there is another subject with which the people of this country are at the moment gravely concerned—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Meat.\"]—and that is the proceedings at Lake Success—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.317.2", "colnum": "317", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.317.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.320.1", "colnum": "320", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Sir. I should like to ask your guidance, arising out of the interchange of questions and answers which has just proceeded, with special reference to the intervention of the Leader of the Opposition just now, who indicated that the Government had the support of the Opposition in certain policy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.320.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.344.1", "colnum": "344", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Evans", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Evans", "preceding_text": "s as O.E.E.C. and others. I am hopeful that its prestige and influence will grow and be effective in making international agreements, as well as on the equally vexed question of over-fishing, a subject which continues to cause anxiety. I raised that subject in 1947 very soon after the International Convention on Over-Fishing issued its report. It is disappointing to find that little has been done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.344.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.351.1", "colnum": "351", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Duthie", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where did the balance go?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Duthie", "preceding_text": "sh that I am talking about is fish of the very highest quality which can command the highest prices at Billingsgate, Manchester, Liverpool or any of the other central markets, because it is fish that is landed the same day as it is taken. Cod fillets were being sold at Billingsgate wholesale at 1s. 1&#x00BD;d. per 1b. last week. Our fishermen at Moray Firth ports got 6&#x00BE;d. for the same fish.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.351.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.403.5", "colnum": "403", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacMillan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Misrepresentation.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacMillan", "preceding_text": "I quite appreciate that the noble Lady welcomed what was done by Governments in pre-war days, but it still remains true that there is no part of the British fishing fleet that is more obsolete, and in regard to which there have been fewer attempts by private enterprise at replacement, than that which is in Scotland, and particularly in Aberdeen. The Tory representation of that area—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.403.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.407.5", "colnum": "407", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the fishermen?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "and the house will usually listen to a person who is trying to make a statement in defence of his honour. I was accused by the Minister of making a statement to the Press without having read the Bill. I was asked by the national Press to make such a statement. I refused to do so for three days. Until I got to Grimsby and saw both the trawler owners and the merchants, I refused to make a statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.407.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.407.7", "colnum": "407", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"So the hon. Member did it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "constituency, which rings Grimsby, and I now have 22,000 votes which were previously in the old Grimsby Division. The second thing of which the Minister accused me, which I deeply resent, was this. He accused me—and sneered at me because I had said what I had said—of playing cheap party politics in Grimsby. Is it wrong for me to do it in Grimsby when he does it in the Don Valley whenever he likes?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.407.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.408.6", "colnum": "408", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "aid that \"take\" meant to take an interest in new companies. Let him look at HANSARD tomorrow. The Bill, without his explanation, said \"in any company.\" Any company means every company. Therefore the Authority could take or acquire an interest and the word \"take\" has a more partial meaning than the word \"acquire.\" And if the Authority could take it, it could take over every company in the industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.408.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.409.3", "colnum": "409", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We are not frightened.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I thought that they and their party were pledged to the nationalisation of all industries, including fishing. Why should they be frightened of it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.409.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.409.3", "colnum": "409", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I thought that they and their party were pledged to the nationalisation of all industries, including fishing. Why should they be frightened of it? [HON. MEMBERS: \"We are not frightened.\"] Because it may cost them votes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.409.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.409.3", "colnum": "409", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is the same old private enterprise.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I thought that they and their party were pledged to the nationalisation of all industries, including fishing. Why should they be frightened of it? [HON. MEMBERS: \"We are not frightened.\"] Because it may cost them votes. [HON. MEMBERS: Nonsense.\"] Having said that, I would like to make one or two real criticisms of this Bill, which I do not like.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.409.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.410.3", "colnum": "410", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "oreign-caught fish is subject to the same strict regulations as to quality, quantity and price as the British, this scheme will fail, completely and utterly. So far, the Minister has given no assurance that he will re-impose even the pre-war quotas of foreign-landed fish. Therefore, I say again, as I said in my article after having read the Bill carefully, that this is a piece of political humbug—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.410.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.410.7", "colnum": "410", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"I am sure you do not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "Ten per cent. is sufficient to make just that difference to the price. What can the Minister tell the House and the three sections of the industry as to the promises he can give regarding foreign-caught fish? I come now to my next question. I speak for myself, and not for my party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.410.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.411.7", "colnum": "411", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I am obliged for that assurance. I was asked for it by people in the industry who fear these things.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.411.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.435.2", "colnum": "435", "heading": "MEAT RATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper-Key", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper-Key", "preceding_text": "o the housewife, which would be reflected in a higher figure in the cost of living index, which he thinks would be unpopular; or alternatively to give a subsidy on imported meat which the Treasury in any case would not agree to. It is this cost of living index—some people now say the price of starving index—which is really responsible for the failure to feed the nation adequately in the last year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.435.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.435.2", "colnum": "435", "heading": "MEAT RATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper-Key", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper-Key", "preceding_text": " I thoroughly resent the attitude they are now taking up. Nevertheless, this we must face as a business deal. We either have the meat and pay a price which would reflect an increase of about 1&#x00BD;d. or 2d. per week extra in the shops, or we go without. I think that public opinion today, is in favour of having the meat. One further fact emerges from this story. State trading in meat has failed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.435.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.435.2", "colnum": "435", "heading": "MEAT RATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper-Key", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper-Key", "preceding_text": "Nevertheless, this we must face as a business deal. We either have the meat and pay a price which would reflect an increase of about 1&#x00BD;d. or 2d. per week extra in the shops, or we go without. I think that public opinion today, is in favour of having the meat. One further fact emerges from this story. State trading in meat has failed. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Yes. In a world of abundant supply—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.435.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-25", "file": "debates1951-01-25a.xml", "sha256": "04d9252a9666f0e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.442.1", "colnum": "442", "heading": "MEAT RATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "pare a system that will take the place of the present system at the right time. At the present moment we are faced with the problem of prices. Why have we stood out against the Argentine? It is because we believe that their demands are quite excessive, quite unreasonable and quite unfair to this country. We really cannot keep the cost of living down if we are to yield to every demand of this sort.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-25a.442.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.447.0", "colnum": "447", "heading": "MEAT RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": "way in which the debate ended last evening. Of course, the Opposition will want time to consider the consequences of his very grave statement, which will be received with the utmost distress on all sides of the House and in the country as a whole. The country cannot at this stage refrain from drawing the conclusion that this is in large part a consequence of the Government's policy of bulk buying.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.447.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.449.1", "colnum": "449", "heading": "MEAT RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "My mind is not closed. Indeed we are preparing schemes for controls if they are needed; but representatives of the Co-operative movement came to me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.449.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.449.1", "colnum": "449", "heading": "MEAT RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where will they go?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "My mind is not closed. Indeed we are preparing schemes for controls if they are needed; but representatives of the Co-operative movement came to me—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] —they are interests with considerable experience—and said, \"If you impose control on rabbits not a single member of the Co-operative Societies will have any rabbits at all.\" This weight of evidence I cannot dismiss lightly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.449.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.451.2", "colnum": "451", "heading": "MEAT RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?'", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "It is impossible to state how much per lb. is involved. We have to consider the effects of paying more to the Argentine on our agreements with the Dominion suppliers. If we pay more to the Argentine, it is inevitable that we must pay more to New Zealand and Australian producers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.451.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.451.2", "colnum": "451", "heading": "MEAT RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Fair shares for all.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "It is impossible to state how much per lb. is involved. We have to consider the effects of paying more to the Argentine on our agreements with the Dominion suppliers. If we pay more to the Argentine, it is inevitable that we must pay more to New Zealand and Australian producers. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?'] They would expect it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.451.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.459.2", "colnum": "459", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NEW STREETS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": " not here who intervened when I raised this matter in the House on the Adjournment, and who said that this first type of fraud was rather difficult to practise. That is true. That is the type of fraud which was practised by, I do not say all builders, and I do not even say the majority of builders in Hornchurch, and possibly not even all builders at present resident in Hornchurch, but by builders—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.459.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.469.5", "colnum": "469", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NEW STREETS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hargreaves", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hargreaves", "preceding_text": "I am not contesting that but, again, I am making the point that a payment in respect of road charges was made to an estate company. It was a separate payment when this house was erected, and it was —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.469.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.476.3", "colnum": "476", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NEW STREETS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hutchinson", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman is making a very general charge against the building industry. Surely he recognises that the cases which the hon. and learned Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Bing) cited are exceptional cases?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.476.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.480.2", "colnum": "480", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NEW STREETS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lindgren", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lindgren", "preceding_text": "I am not going to argue a technical legal point with a learned King's Counsel such as the hon. and learned Gentleman, but my assumption from this Bill is—and it refers to where one payment is made—that in this instance where the first payment has been made for the new house in the street there should be a requirement to make the road—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.480.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-26", "file": "debates1951-01-26a.xml", "sha256": "c149f71878e15d13", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.496.1", "colnum": "496", "heading": "DESERTED WIVES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Turner-Samuels", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Turner-Samuels", "preceding_text": "hat if the Bill had been wider and had proposed that in particular circumstances that a husband could be divested of his tenancy of his house, it might not have been another matter and worthy of consideration. The Bill does nothing of that sort. It leaves the whole position at large. What the promoters are seeking to do is to have the husband thrown out of the house whatever the circumstances are—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-26a.496.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-29", "file": "debates1951-01-29a.xml", "sha256": "425e4d6388753762", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.572.5", "colnum": "572", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; STRATEGIC MATERIALS (EXPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubber?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "I think the hon. Gentleman is under a misapprehension. We are imposing restrictions on the export of strategic materials at present.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.572.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-29", "file": "debates1951-01-29a.xml", "sha256": "425e4d6388753762", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.592.3", "colnum": "592", "heading": "ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "preceding_text": "May I ask the Prime Minister if he realises that there is a considerable volume of opinion in this country which is not Communist, but which will be absolutely horrified by the statement he has made this afternoon—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.592.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-29", "file": "debates1951-01-29a.xml", "sha256": "425e4d6388753762", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.643.1", "colnum": "643", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COURTS-MARTIAL (APPEALS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": " fail to draw forth this comment: we started our work in November, 1946, and various little instalments dropped from the War Office, which I admit, and which I think were admirable, but from 1947 to 1951 has gone by. It has taken all these years for this House to reach this question of a Court of Appeal. If hon. Members will look at the Report of the Lewis Committee—and we were a strong Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.643.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-29", "file": "debates1951-01-29a.xml", "sha256": "425e4d6388753762", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.650.1", "colnum": "650", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COURTS-MARTIAL (APPEALS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "nour to be a member. We are dealing with the Courts-Martial (Appeals) Bill today, and it would not be appropriate for me to express any considered opinion upon it, because a Bill of this kind requires very careful consideration, and I was notified only on Thursday, or perhaps Friday, last that this Bill was coming up for Second Reading today. I am not, therefore, able to make any comment about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.650.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-29", "file": "debates1951-01-29a.xml", "sha256": "425e4d6388753762", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.653.2", "colnum": "653", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COURTS-MARTIAL (APPEALS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "I was dealing with Clause 2 (4). May I invite you, Mr. Speaker, to read the subsection?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-29a.653.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.716.9", "colnum": "716", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ATOMIC ENERGY (ANGLO-AMERICAN ARRANGEMENTS)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I have tried to explain twice that there was no treaty—it was a question of agreement. That agreement—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.716.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.726.2", "colnum": "726", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Norman Smith", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Norman Smith", "preceding_text": "e securities that, although the securities may appreciate in financial terms, they will certainly, whichever party is in power, depreciate in real value, because of the inflation which is inseparable from rearmament; and is it not really time that interest and repayment were tied to the cost-of-living index, so that we can have honest finance, and not the sort of finance which we on these benches—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.726.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.746.1", "colnum": "746", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CONTINUATION OF EXPIRING LONG TENANCY WHERE TENANT IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Spens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Spens", "preceding_text": " intended to be included in this Bill there is not the slightest difficulty in doing so. Historically that also would be quite easily ascertainable, and I cannot believe that it is beyond the wit of man to devise a definition which would include improved ground leases. In going beyond that we get to the stage of premises which are let at substantially higher rents, either rack rents, or something—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.746.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.747.1", "colnum": "747", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CONTINUATION OF EXPIRING LONG TENANCY WHERE TENANT IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Spens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Spens", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member says Put them all in.\" It would be perfectly simple to say that there is to be a complete standstill for all leases coming to an end in the next two years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.747.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.770.0", "colnum": "770", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CONTINUATION OF EXPIRING LONG TENANCY WHERE TENANT IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Derek Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Derek Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "eight years. The Furnished Houses (Rent Control) Act, which was supposed to end at the end of 1947, is still going strong—and is even spawning other Bills, so strong a hold has it taken on its position on the Statute Book. So I cannot help feeling that this Bill, which is supposed to last for two years, may—at any rate if the present Government is in power—go on for a good deal longer in practice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.770.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.828.2", "colnum": "828", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CONTINUATION OF EXPIRING LONG TENANCY WHERE TENANT IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": "Let us assume that the Attorney-General desires leasehold enfranchisement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.828.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.828.2", "colnum": "828", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CONTINUATION OF EXPIRING LONG TENANCY WHERE TENANT IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": " of very serious consideration with a view perhaps to adopting it. There is no reason why these premises could not be marked or distinguished in some way so that if, in permanent legislation, it is decided, contrary to what I believe will be the case, to take these houses out of the protection of the Rent Restrictions Acts, and give them to the tenant, if such an extraordinary Measure were passed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.828.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.832.2", "colnum": "832", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CONTINUATION OF EXPIRING LONG TENANCY WHERE TENANT IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "preceding_text": "d by a rateable value of £100 in London and £75 in the provinces. It is no good saying, as the hon. and learned Gentleman attempted to say a moment ago, that that can be amended in the course of the Committee stage, because this is fundamental to this Bill. If we do anything different by amending the Amendment in the name of the Opposition, obviously we shall be changing the Rent Restriction Acts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.832.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.840.1", "colnum": "840", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CONTINUATION OF EXPIRING LONG TENANCY WHERE TENANT IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": " and extremely complicated Bill. I doubt very much whether the Government, although they are very sanguine about it, will be able, within two years, to introduce this comprehensive Measure. The right hon. and learned Gentleman has gone on record this afternoon in very hopeful terms about it, but, frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether or not the Government will bring in a comprehensive Measure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.840.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-30", "file": "debates1951-01-30a.xml", "sha256": "0ca88caf055254ab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.866.1", "colnum": "866", "heading": "KINGSTON VICTORIA HOSPITAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It ought to be a gynecological unit.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "preceding_text": "Perhaps it is an unfortunate building; but the name given to it and the fact that it has been a pour building in the past must not lead us to suppose it must always be like that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-30a.866.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.930.1", "colnum": "930", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CONTINUATION OF EXPIRING LONG TENANCY WHERE TENANT IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": " my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Gloucester (Mr. Turner-Samuels). It is always extremely easy to criticise the drafting of Bills, particularly when they deal with inevitably complex subjects such as this. I must confess that in the days when I occupied the happily irresponsible position of the hon. and learned Member for Wirral, I indulged in a good deal of criticism of that kind myself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.930.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.952.1", "colnum": "952", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROVISION WHERE TENANT HOLDING OVER AFTER EXPIRY OF LONG TENANCY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Turner-Samuels", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Turner-Samuels", "preceding_text": "time, they themselves can clear out and allow this other person to do something with the house which would amount to exploiting it. If these words are left in the Clause, it is perfectly clear that somebody can come from abroad and stay for three months, and that that person will be the person who is living there. What these words mean is somewhat difficult to interpret, but that is what it means.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.952.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.984.2", "colnum": "984", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RESTRICTIONS ON ENFORCE- MENT OF COVENANTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Black", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Black", "preceding_text": " to the Committee. They are by no means exceptional cases. They are the type of case which occurs in literally hundreds and hundreds of districts, where, if this type of property is included within the scope of the Bill and there is no right to recover possession in the event of the landlord desiring to remodel, a great deal of accommodation will be withheld from homeless families of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.984.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.995.1", "colnum": "995", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RESTRICTIONS ON ENFORCE- MENT OF COVENANTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heald", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Take another walk.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heald", "preceding_text": "We should realise where we are getting—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.995.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.995.3", "colnum": "995", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RESTRICTIONS ON ENFORCE- MENT OF COVENANTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heald", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heald", "preceding_text": "exactly the way in which more houses can be obtained, and hon. Members opposite are opposing it. That is significant and important. I am just as much entitled as any hon. Member opposite to say that I regard housing as a matter of the utmost importance. I have always done so and I always shall, and I am glad to see that there is no suggestion on the other side of the Committee that that is not so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.995.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1003.1", "colnum": "1003", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RESTRICTIONS ON ENFORCE- MENT OF COVENANTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "preceding_text": "I was not arguing that point at the moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1003.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1007.2", "colnum": "1007", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RESTRICTIONS ON ENFORCE- MENT OF COVENANTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Derek Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Derek Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "se put by the right hon. and learned Gentleman, although I cannot, of course, pretend to reproduce the rich eloquence with which he always adorns his speeches. So far as the suggestion that the Amendment covers only unusual cases is concerned, in a sense that is so. The law exists, happily, to deal with unusual cases, I wonder whether that has ever occurred to the right hon. and learned Gentleman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1007.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1015.3", "colnum": "1015", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RESTRICTIONS ON ENFORCE- MENT OF COVENANTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manningham-Buller", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manningham-Buller", "preceding_text": "h could hold more families, should be converted for the use of more families. This second factor must be recognised. It is that unless we do something to facilitate that conversion taking place we are stopping the increase of housing accommodation. Unless the Clause is altered—let there be no mistake about this—the party opposite are putting an impediment in the way of the rehousing of our people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1015.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1031.3", "colnum": "1031", "heading": "Clause 5.—(PROVISION WHERE LONG TENANCY DETERMINED AND SUBTENANT, ETC., IN OCCUPATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Agreed.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "Is the Committee in agreement with that course?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1031.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1040.1", "colnum": "1040", "heading": "ROAD HAULAGE (DELAYS)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Barnes)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Barnes)", "preceding_text": "s of this House to raise matters of this description. I want to admit that he has put his case in a light and humorous way, which does not in any way undermine the seriousness of some of the points he made. He ought to recognise that many of his comments and assertions were hearsay and based on what other people had obviously seen, but that he had no opportunity of checking their accuracy himself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1040.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-01-31", "file": "debates1951-01-31a.xml", "sha256": "701554f6ab0bd0e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1041.3", "colnum": "1041", "heading": "ROAD HAULAGE (DELAYS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about 1949?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnes", "preceding_text": "0, the first year it was operated under the British Transport Commission through the Road Haulage Executive, the claims declined to 21.2. If we apply the same test to this organisation in regard to proof of delivery inquiries, then in 1946, for every 10,000 packages, the inquiries with regard to accuracy of delivery amounted to 50. In 1950 the proof of delivery inquiries declined to 27.2 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-01-31a.1041.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1066.4", "colnum": "1066", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EMPLOYMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Whose side is the right hon. Gentleman on?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "It is not always wise to interpret these acts in that way. It exalts the influence of the Communists in a most extraordinary fashion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1066.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1067.6", "colnum": "1067", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ANTI-COMMUNIST BOOKS", "cue_speaker": "Lord Malcolm Douglas-Hamilton", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Has the noble Lord read it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lord Malcolm Douglas-Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman familiar with the book which is called \"A History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Bolsheviks),\" which is described inside as a short course, is printed and published in Moscow, and is, I understand, a textbook of the workers of the Communist Party, and sells in this country for Is. 6d.?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1067.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1081.7", "colnum": "1081", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "They have been published.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "As we are being asked to get the Supplementary Estimates through in rather a hurry next Tuesday, can the right hon. Gentleman tell us when they will be published.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1081.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1084.0", "colnum": "1084", "heading": "KOREA (UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "h the right hon. Gentleman has made without having the documents referred to paragraph by paragraph before us, and it is not very clear, from what we have heard, what the whole of this statement amounts to. But I presume we are right in assuming that the representatives of His Majesty's Government will vote with the United States on the resolution declaring China to be an aggressor in North Korea—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1084.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1086.0", "colnum": "1086", "heading": "KOREA (UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Nonsense.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": " laid upon those parts of the resolution which deal with negotiation and good offices rather than with condemnation and sanctions, might I ask him whether he will bear in mind that for large numbers at any rate, perhaps the majority, of our citizens the vote of this country in condemning as aggression, within the meaning of the United Nations Charter, what China did, does not carry their approval—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1085.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1086.2", "colnum": "1086", "heading": "KOREA (UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Nonsense.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "—that in fact, in the opinion of great numbers of people the Chinese have done nothing there which this country would not have done in the same circumstances—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1086.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1092.17", "colnum": "1092", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Absentee.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1092.16"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1093.0", "colnum": "1093", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "I am sure, Mr. Speaker, that you are delighted to have the assistance of such a charming censor of taste. My attendance here is as good as anybody else's.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1093.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1093.0", "colnum": "1093", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "I am sure, Mr. Speaker, that you are delighted to have the assistance of such a charming censor of taste. My attendance here is as good as anybody else's. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] I do not intend to take up much of the time of the House today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1093.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1093.0", "colnum": "1093", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"By Old Moore?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "on the reduction of coal supplies which are vital to our industrial production. Many of my hon. Friends and hon. Members opposite will wish to discuss the Minister's statement, so I shall try to be as brief as I can. Unless the weather becomes milder, we are told by the Parliamentary Secretary that the prospects of averting another fuel crisis \"are all very gloomy.\" This is a crisis long foretold.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1093.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1097.1", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Go and get some.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "—and the policy of the Government can best be described by adapting some words of Sir Stafford Cripps which are well within the memory of the House, as drifting from expedient to expedient. In the course of many debates the Opposition have stressed that the nationalisation of coal, be it wise or unwise, is no longer an issue between parties. Britain today needs coal not dogma.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1097.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1097.2", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Or Bournemouth either.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "d the Opposition have constantly pressed for reforms. Our doubts are shared by the forthright Chairman of the Yorkshire Miners' Union, Mr. Hall: You cannot run the pits from London &#x2026; There is no more ridiculous fallacy than to believe that any industrial or political set-up in London can handle the tremendous perplexities of coal, and it is no use London telling us what to do in Yorkshire\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1097.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1097.3", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "ore than enough to do if it fulfils its responsibilities for research, development and financial control. It is obvious that the Board cannot handle the two cardinal problems of the coal industry, the first of which is, apparently, intractable absenteeism. I want to deal for a moment with the earlier preliminary interruption. Hon. Members on both sides know that I have never criticised the miners.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1097.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1099.3", "colnum": "1099", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Fuel and Power (Mr. Philip Noel-Baker)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Fuel and Power (Mr. Philip Noel-Baker)", "preceding_text": " quote to him, on what he said about superseding the manager in the mine, the words of Mr. Drummond, whom he will remember as the very able manager under private enterprise of the Ashington Colliery, in Northumberland. Mr. Drummond said: To say that managers have less freedom today than they had under the old system is simply nonsense. I shall not follow the right hon. Gentleman about absenteeism.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1099.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1104.1", "colnum": "1104", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "s. As I have said, those reductions would have given us the end-of-the-year stocks we wanted but for the developments in December, which I have referred to. Of those developments by far the most important is the growth in home consumption. It is a thing that for most reasons all of us rejoice about. It comes from full employment, more production, and more gas and electricity in the people's homes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1104.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1113.5", "colnum": "1113", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "for miners, especially in places where coal production must expand. The Coal Board have asked us for 10,000 houses in the next two years. These houses will be built. Most of them will be built within the normal local authority programmes, but not fewer than 3,600 will be built by special measures, if need be; that is to say, by imported labour, special contracts and so on. They will be for miners.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1113.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1122.4", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "preceding_text": "OFFICIAL REPORT, 12th December, 1950; Vol. 482, c. 1051.] I do not know what the hon. Gentleman meant by that, but it seems quite clear to me that there is a very distinct relationship between the danger of substantial cuts in electricity and the possibility or otherwise of continuing a high level supply of coal to the power stations. I fail to see the strength of his observation on that occasion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1122.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1124.0", "colnum": "1124", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "preceding_text": "I do not think there is any conflict here between us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1124.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1139.0", "colnum": "1139", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "by the North Thames Gas Board. One entire page includes two tramcars originally designated \"Triumph\" and \"Desire.\" With no apparent relevance to the tramcars, there appear these words underneath: Wherever they go the new gas cookers are a triumph. White, spotless, easy to use and clean, neat as a new pin—they transform the kitchen. Why not see them at the gas showrooms? A few pence a day buys one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1139.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1145.1", "colnum": "1145", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Glanville", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Glanville", "preceding_text": "r the policy of full employment which the Government have pursued, miners are not so easily or cheaply obtained as they were 50 years ago. Since the ring-fence was lifted from the industry, the men have had the right to choose their own jobs. I know what hon and right hon. Gentlemen opposite would have. They would have someone at the colliery with a whip in his hand to drive the men into the pits.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1145.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1147.2", "colnum": "1147", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Glanville", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Glanville", "preceding_text": "f manpower in the mines, and I want the Minister and the Parliamentary Secretary to take notice of a suggestion which I have. It is obvious that there is not sufficient manpower in the country to man the whole of industry when full employment is the order of the day. That is why when they were in power the Tories kept a pool of a couple of million unemployed in order to exploit the man on the job.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1147.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1147.6", "colnum": "1147", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Glanville", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Glanville", "preceding_text": "estions. In the meantime, the ranks are open. I dare say the Whips will take the names of any volunteers who come forward. Having said that, Mr. Speaker, I thank you for this opportunity and I hope it will be a long, long time before any more inquests are held on this industry. They are not necessary. The good feeling between the Board and the men in the coalfields was never better than it is now.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1147.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1149.5", "colnum": "1149", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the challenge?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "preceding_text": "I am not a little bit afraid of him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1149.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1154.3", "colnum": "1154", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "preceding_text": "d suffer a severe penalty. They suffered that penalty and shouldered that responsibility because the ship went on the rocks. No plan which they could have put forward to get the ship off the rocks would have taken that responsibility and penalty off their shoulders. The Minister of Fuel and Power has run the coal ship of State on to the rocks, and the moral of the story is obvious. It is the duty—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1154.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1156.2", "colnum": "1156", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not the answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "preceding_text": "Of course it is. The amount by which the price of coal has gone up is not all due to the wages. It is the extra amount—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1156.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1166.1", "colnum": "1166", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Miss Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is still there.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Ward", "preceding_text": "cost of living. If the Minister really wants to do a good service to the miners, as I assume he does, I am surprised that he does not inform the public that not all miners get high wages, and that in fact less than 50 per cent. do. That again, if I may say it without offence, leads me to a point I want to make about the quality of coal. In the old days there was a penalty for the filling of stone.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1166.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1171.1", "colnum": "1171", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Surely they are necessary.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "preceding_text": "want to secure a certain number of prosecutions. They delight in coming before the authorities to say that they should endeavour to prosecute this or that firm. It costs a lot of money to take those firms to court and very often the case is laughed out of court. We have to bear the cost of that type of nonsense throughout the country, under the Food and Drugs Act, 1938, and other food regulations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1171.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1190.1", "colnum": "1190", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "ncrease in mechanisation and a 9 per cent. increase in output per manshift. That clearly shows that there was harder work clone by the face workers or that there was better management, or both. The hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter) was interested in the cost of American coal freights and one or two other matters. Quite clearly, it would be quite contrary to public interest—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1190.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1192.5", "colnum": "1192", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": " of deep-mined coal we should have to eliminate opencast and have to produce next year nearly 235 million tons from the mines alone. This figure of nearly 235 million tons compares with last year's output of deep-mined coal of 204 million tons. Knowing that, it is just absurd to suggest that any Labour Ministers promised to produce adequate supplies like a conjuror producing a rabbit out of a hat.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1192.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1195.1", "colnum": "1195", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "which the Government have steadily pursued since 1945, and which has ensured full employment and a much improved standard of living for the mass of people of this country, has been so eminently successful that the total coal produced in 1938, when hon. Gentlemen opposite were in power, while adequate for that year, would have been totally inadequate for 1951. I do not want to be too controversial.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1195.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1195.1", "colnum": "1195", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": " the Amendment which hon. Gentlemen opposite have moved. I say that it will take several years before the country, under conditions of full employment, will be able to produce in the mines a full sufficiency of coal for all our needs. It seems to me, therefore, that this House and the country are entitled to know whether, indeed, under a Labour administration, we are making slow or quick progress.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1195.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1195.1", "colnum": "1195", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "of coal for all our needs. It seems to me, therefore, that this House and the country are entitled to know whether, indeed, under a Labour administration, we are making slow or quick progress. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Certainly; the country;s entitled to know whether, under a Labour administration, we are making slow or quick progress towards the objective of fully-sufficient coal. Let us examine it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1195.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1195.1", "colnum": "1195", "heading": "COAL SHORTAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "d as a 20-year journey. I say that the industry can be justly proud of that achievement. Increased mechanisation and rapidly improving relations in the industry will, I hope, speed up that progress still more. Even so, it is clear that some years lie ahead before deep-mining production is such that all restriction of supplies can come to an end. What have we to do? I think that the battle of coal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1195.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-01", "file": "debates1951-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "4f162cffecde4ac9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1206.3", "colnum": "1206", "heading": "DEMOLITION ORDER, EAST HAM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ten minutes?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "preceding_text": "This case, of course, is one that received very wide publicity in the national Press, and in the 10 minutes that I can take I shall try to outline—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-01a.1206.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-05", "file": "debates1951-02-05a.xml", "sha256": "cf680cfd7855cc8a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1319.7", "colnum": "1319", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. Edward Davies", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. Edward Davies", "preceding_text": "In view of the rising cost of living, which is nobody's fault particularly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1319.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-05", "file": "debates1951-02-05a.xml", "sha256": "cf680cfd7855cc8a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1341.1", "colnum": "1341", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SOVIET EMBASSY OFFICIALS, LONDON", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Martin Lindsay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Martin Lindsay", "preceding_text": "In view of the wide dissatisfaction with which the hon. Gentleman's reply has been greeted in all parts of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1341.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-05", "file": "debates1951-02-05a.xml", "sha256": "cf680cfd7855cc8a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1343.6", "colnum": "1343", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; U.S. FORCES, GREAT BRITAIN (INJURY CLAIMS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader A. E. Cooper", "preceding_text": "Will the hon. Gentleman point out to his hon. Friend the Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. S. Silverman), who has a well known antipathy for all things American—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1343.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-05", "file": "debates1951-02-05a.xml", "sha256": "cf680cfd7855cc8a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1346.6", "colnum": "1346", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; DOCK STRIKE, NORTH- WEST AREA", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Everybody else is.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "I understand that the Ministry of Food are not at the moment apprehensive about the food position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1346.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-05", "file": "debates1951-02-05a.xml", "sha256": "cf680cfd7855cc8a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1399.0", "colnum": "1399", "heading": "Clause 9.—(TIME FOR, AND INTERIM EFFECT OF, APPLICATION FOR NEW TENANCY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Renton", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Renton", "preceding_text": " using, be taken as Parliamentary sanction to one month's delay, and that one month's delay can be used for the purpose of abusive delay. When we are faced with a position like that I suggest, if I may use a vulgar expression, we should not stick our necks out. We should be dealing with the abuses that there have been in the past rather than sanction a bigger form of abuse than was allowed before.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1399.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-05", "file": "debates1951-02-05a.xml", "sha256": "cf680cfd7855cc8a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1412.1", "colnum": "1412", "heading": "Clause 10.—(POWER OF COURT TO GRANT NEW TENANCIES OF SHOPS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "preceding_text": "The court is entitled to regard the word \"may\" as meaning that it has some extra discretion. Otherwise, why use the word \"may\"? The word \"shall\" should be used. That is point number one, and is quite obvious.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1412.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-05", "file": "debates1951-02-05a.xml", "sha256": "cf680cfd7855cc8a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1414.0", "colnum": "1414", "heading": "Clause 10.—(POWER OF COURT TO GRANT NEW TENANCIES OF SHOPS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "n for clearing it up and making the position certain. I come now to the third point. My hon. Friend the Member for Leicester, North-West (Mr. Janner), referred to the Rent Restriction Acts and all the complicated decisions which we get. Anyone who has had experience of that knows that the right of discretion vested in the courts is often considered by the court to be an intolerable responsibility.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1414.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-05", "file": "debates1951-02-05a.xml", "sha256": "cf680cfd7855cc8a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1475.0", "colnum": "1475", "heading": "Clause 10.—(POWER OF COURT TO GRANT NEW TENANCIES OF SHOPS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gibson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not necessarily.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gibson", "preceding_text": "nterest is already owned by the local authority, the judge may be able to decide, if it is for the public good, that that interest shall remain with the local authority and that the tenant shall be removed. One hon. Member said that the interest of private enterprise in these matters was merely to obtain a rent, and as big a rent as possible. The interest of the local authority is the public good.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-05a.1475.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1514.6", "colnum": "1514", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Performance?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir; certainly not at all hours, but very naturally within the licensing hours, and during the performance of their lunch or dinner, or what-ever it may be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1514.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1527.6", "colnum": "1527", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; WORLD PEACE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "No, I think that is not a very wise suggestion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1527.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1557.3", "colnum": "1557", "heading": "Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF CLASS OF LAND FOR IMPROVEMENT OF WHICH GRANTS MAY BE MADE UNDER THE PRINCIPAL ACT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "I entirely accept that, but I should have thought that the picture of the Cumberland farm which the hon. Gentleman has just given us is quite different from that of the farm about which his hon. Friend the Member for West Perth told us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1557.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1566.0", "colnum": "1566", "heading": "Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF CLASS OF LAND FOR IMPROVEMENT OF WHICH GRANTS MAY BE MADE UNDER THE PRINCIPAL ACT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nugent", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nugent", "preceding_text": " living, were in very great difficulty and the result was that, as the Milk Marketing Board got going, in the 'thirties, those little farms gradually went into milk production. Now nearly all those farmers are making their living from milk production. My hon. Friend the Member for Thirsk and Malton (Mr. Turton) brought out this point extremely well. Those farms are potentially stock-rearing farms—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1566.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1638.1", "colnum": "1638", "heading": "NAVY SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE, 1950&#x2013;51", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "The Motion is in today's Order Paper. The Government on this occasion, if I may say so with respect, seems to be ahead of the Chair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1638.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1643.0", "colnum": "1643", "heading": "NAVY SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE, 1950&#x2013;51", "cue_speaker": "Captain Ryder", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Ryder", "preceding_text": "I am always a little suspicious when I see a round figure like £10 million and naturally I share certain misgivings of the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1643.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1663.2", "colnum": "1663", "heading": "ARMY SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE, 1950&#x2013;51", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. The hon. Gentleman has twice referred to me as a military Communist, and he has referred to me as a military Communist before. I am not a Communist, and I should like it publicly known that I am not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1663.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1671.0", "colnum": "1671", "heading": "ARMY SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE, 1950&#x2013;51", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "preceding_text": "r the old soldier? Recruiting would go up at once; that would help recruiting more than anything else. He now has a new Secretary of State and is an old soldier himself, so he may be able to do something about this. There was a tang of the hoardings, I thought, when the Under-Secretary said that we kept on asking for the pay of the Regular Forces to be put up yet had one arm tied behind our backs—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1671.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1671.0", "colnum": "1671", "heading": "ARMY SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE, 1950&#x2013;51", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "preceding_text": " a minute before saying \"Hear, hear.\" What we said, and we said it throughout—I can remember these words very well—was, \"If you will spend a little more on the Regular element and take a chance you will put up Regular recruiting and stop the flow out of the Regular element. Then as a result you can give back to the Treasury a reduction in the National Service intake which will more than repay it.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1671.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1679.0", "colnum": "1679", "heading": "AIR SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE, 1950&#x2013;51", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "I accept your Ruling, Major Milner, though I am not so sure that Erskine May would.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1679.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1683.0", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "AIR SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE, 1950&#x2013;51", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Make your mind up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "I should like to follow, very briefly, the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Hendon, North (Mr. C. I. Orr-Ewing) with regard to the disposal of stores. One looks at Vote 6, item Z; no, Item G; no, I am sorry, Item Z.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1683.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-06", "file": "debates1951-02-06a.xml", "sha256": "5870ef0c6143fc2c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1685.5", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "AIR SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE, 1950&#x2013;51", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about tomorrow?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "preceding_text": "he whole thing. I understand that radar and the equipment connected with it is an extremely vital part of flying these aircraft. Yet there is a saving of almost £2,000,000 on that. Almost £5,000,000 is being saved on these two items alone. Surely we are entitled to have some information, some greater detail, of why we are saving money in this very important period in the history of the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-06a.1685.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1711.5", "colnum": "1711", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ROYAL AIR FORCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "preceding_text": "No, Sir. That is a rather mixed supplementary but I will try to disentangle it. The most advanced types to which the hon. and gallant Member referred will be available long before \"some years.\" It is not the case that the Auxiliary Air Force squadrons are at half strength.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1711.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1735.1", "colnum": "1735", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NORTHERN RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Hynd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Hynd", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend also aware of the fact that one of these companies recently declared a dividend of 120 per cent.?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1735.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1736.7", "colnum": "1736", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; GALLANTRY AWARDS, KOREA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "preceding_text": "While we are all glad to hear that gallantry has received its proper and just recognition, may I ask the Prime Minister whether he is aware that his candidate in the West Bristol by-election has said that this country should not have interfered in Korea at all?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1736.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1744.5", "colnum": "1744", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "jor stumbling block to national unity and to national safety, and it is surely only right that the House of Commons should show itself capable of surveying the position with composure, firmness and a clear eye. I do not expect that we shall reach any measure of agreement—that is one of the tragedies of the times in which we live. Who is responsible for forcing this disruptive issue upon the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1744.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1744.5", "colnum": "1744", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "use last time we debated the matter. There is, I suppose, no prime, vast, complicated industry in the country, in the direction of which from a practical point of view men of goodwill and good sense, however seated in the House or inflamed with party strife or working in the industry, can more easily find agreement than on this question of steel. The Conservative Party and the Liberal Party stand—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1744.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1746.0", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Thank you very much.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ecial representations on his behalf. As to finality. Not to enforce steel nationalisation now is not to say there never will be steel nationalisation. If the Government and the Socialist Party choose to come into line themselves, there would he no reason why they should not, when circumstances are less grave and menacing, resume their theoretical movement for the nationalisation of iron and steel.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1746.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1746.0", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ing branches of human society were not in jeopardy. I earnestly hope that I shall be granted full liberty of debate on this occasion. As to being booed—this was an experience which in nearly 50 years of the House of Commons I had never previously endured, and indeed it was an exhibition which I have never witnessed employed against anyone in all the Parliamentary storms through which I have lived.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1746.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1746.0", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " already burdened with all the perplexities of the aftermath of a terrible struggle and the transition from war conditions to what we all then hoped would be an era of unchallenged peace and freedom. I do not admit as democratic constitutional doctrine that anything that is stuck into a party manifesto thereupon becomes a mandated right if the electors vote for the party who draw up the manifesto.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1746.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1746.0", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ld then be told, \"Do you not see these letters 'etc.' written at that point in our party manifesto? Does that not give us the right and impose upon us the obligation to do anything we please?\" At the last election steel played no prominent part in the manifestos and propaganda of the Socialist Party. The Conservative and Liberal Parties, on the other hand, declared their vehement opposition to it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1746.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1749.1", "colnum": "1749", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " All this we have achieved here in the British steel industry. It should be taken as a model Why should it be turned topsy-turvy? Why this industry, of all others, and now, at this time, of all others? These are surely questions which have often been asked and they embody one great question which we must try to answer here tonight. I talk of the disruption of the iron and steel industry advisedly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1749.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1753.1", "colnum": "1753", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "t like, and which are contrary to their native promptings. Their leaders felt they could he held together only by the bringing forward of this specific cause of party antagonism which would appeal to the strong, inherent, factional emotions which range below the Gangway. I repeat what I said the other day, that this unpatriotic step is being taken by the Prime Minister to placate his unhappy tail.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1753.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1753.1", "colnum": "1753", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " industry, we have merely to pay out about £300 million of stock, which must be manufactured by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, to persons who are now investing their money in a business in which they have confidence and which has served us all so well. Let us, therefore, look closer into the question of the acceleration of the act of vesting now to be imposed upon us. What is all this hurry for?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1753.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1757.0", "colnum": "1757", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Hynd", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Hynd", "preceding_text": "All your pals are asleep behind you.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1757.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1757.1", "colnum": "1757", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " careful argument. It is not the good opinion of hon. Gentlemen opposite that I seek to gain, but this place is meant to be a place of serious and careful argument. On a great matter of this kind the Socialist Party would not be so restless and distressed if their guilty consciences were not troubling them so. I am sorry to have to take up more time than I meant, but I shall have to repeat myself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1757.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1757.1", "colnum": "1757", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " reconciles the most violent denunciation of the capitalist exploitation of the proletariat with the fullest enjoyment of its fruits. There are a few in every country. Herr Krupp, who was and may be again, a millionaire, and was certainly a Nazi Socialist, is a case which springs to the mind. There are some in France, and perhaps some in Italy. Mr. Hardie, the master of the Government Corporation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1757.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.1", "colnum": "1763", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "ain of immense quantities of scrap from Germany, amounting to about 2 million tons a year. Finally, a major contribution was the willingness of the steel workers to operate on the basis of a continuous week. There can be no doubt that one of the considerations in their minds, when they agreed to this, was the knowledge that the Government had promised to bring this industry under public ownership—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.1", "colnum": "1763", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about houses and meat?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "s a year. Finally, a major contribution was the willingness of the steel workers to operate on the basis of a continuous week. There can be no doubt that one of the considerations in their minds, when they agreed to this, was the knowledge that the Government had promised to bring this industry under public ownership—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"]—and that this Government does not break its promises.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.1", "colnum": "1763", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "rnment does not break its promises. [HON. MEMBERS: \"What about houses and meat?\"] The Iron and Steel Federation has estimated that the continuous working week added three-quarters of a million tons a year to the output of the industry. The fallacy underlying the whole argument embodied in the Amendment is the implication that output increases under private ownership and not under public ownership.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.3", "colnum": "1763", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "I think the hon. Member knows that output per man-shift has increased in the coal industry. I am not asking the House to conclude anything from this comparison—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.3", "colnum": "1763", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "hat there is something inherent in public ownership which prevents output increasing is patently absurd. In this connection, I want to say a few words about the production prospects of the iron and steel industry during 1951. The House should be aware that the raw material position in the last few months has developed in a way which must make it doubtful whether a continued increase of production—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1763.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1770.1", "colnum": "1770", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "d upon party passions. I hope that the Opposition will now, at last, cease sacrificing the public interest to Conservative dogma. I am entitled to add this: It really ill becomes the right hon. Gentleman to suggest, as he did today, that those who are to carry out the onerous duties of the Corporation have little or no experience of the working of the steel industry. It is not true of two of them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1770.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1773.1", "colnum": "1773", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edgar Granville", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edgar Granville", "preceding_text": "tated his opposition to the Act, and the right hon. Gentleman the Minister has again defended it from that Box. I think it is unfortunate at this time, to say the least, when, apparently, the country and also the House are divided upon the issue. I say \"unfortunate at this time\" because we want 100 per cent. total effort in the country, unity and co-operation, to try to secure international peace.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1773.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1778.1", "colnum": "1778", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "preceding_text": "e of the complications of the price structure in the industry, there is at least the possibility that high profits will be made in the years during which the rearmament programme is under way. At a time when there is a very real threat to our standard of living, it would be psychologically disastrous to have an iron and steel industry which was doing very well indeed from a business point of view.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1778.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1783.1", "colnum": "1783", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Sir Ralph Glyn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Ralph Glyn", "preceding_text": "It falls to me, as the next hon. Member to speak, to congratulate the hon. Member for Bristol, South-East (Mr. Wedgwood Benn) on a most admirable and able speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1783.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1791.1", "colnum": "1791", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Chetwynd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Chetwynd", "preceding_text": "I shall be perfectly happy to withdraw it. I think the general implication was made—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1791.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1792.0", "colnum": "1792", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He has sat down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "preceding_text": "Before the hon. Member sits down", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1792.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1799.1", "colnum": "1799", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nowhere.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": "l that went forth from the Tory Party on that occasion, to the effect that everybody who had the good of the country at heart should at all costs turn out and vote against this dreadful steel nationalisation, 16 per cent. of the electorate, or more than five million voters, failed to take that opportunity to express their dissatisfaction with the nationalisation of steel. Where does that bring us?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1799.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1803.0", "colnum": "1803", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": "ant before they decide to restore the Trade Disputes and Trade Unions Act? It is perfectly obvious, by examining these two propositions in this way, that the whole argument of the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Woodford and his party is completely absurd and ridiculous. They do not believe in it themselves, because if they did they would offer us some sliding scale for calculating the future.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1803.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1814.5", "colnum": "1814", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No one can tell.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "preceding_text": "Is it? Can the hon. Gentleman say with confidence that, the next year, production will go up as a result of nationalisation?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1814.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1818.1", "colnum": "1818", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Banks", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The miners.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Banks", "preceding_text": "office. If hon. Members opposite intend to nationalise all these things and bring them under State control, let them say so. After they have done that, perhaps they will tell us how they intend to make these things pay. I do not think that it is possible to do so. I have not yet found a nationalised industry where the people in that industry have done a better job as the result of nationalisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1818.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1829.3", "colnum": "1829", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mitchison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchison", "preceding_text": "ares, that I had better leave that matter where it is for the moment. All the assumptions made from the benches opposite are that nationalised industries have been a failure. What is the ground for saying so? We are getting more coal per miner now. We are getting better coal. The rise in the price is simply due to our treating the miners properly at long last. Our railway trains are more punctual.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1829.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1829.3", "colnum": "1829", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mitchison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchison", "preceding_text": "tries have been a failure. What is the ground for saying so? We are getting more coal per miner now. We are getting better coal. The rise in the price is simply due to our treating the miners properly at long last. Our railway trains are more punctual. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] If hon. Members do not believe me, they had better ascertain the facts before interjecting. Railway trains are more punctual.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1829.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1833.3", "colnum": "1833", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The same people will get the raw material.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "preceding_text": "If the production of raw material goes down as the result of nationalisation—and I say \"as a result of nationalisation\" because, after nationalisation, the Minister will be in charge of the ship.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1833.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1839.3", "colnum": "1839", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There are plenty down our street.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "preceding_text": "ation which will take account of the new Corporation and dovetail it into the working of the industry as it has been for the last few years. To understand why there is genuine fear of the consequences of implementing this Act on 15th February—and here I confine myself to the terms of the Amendment—it is necessary to understand how the industry is at present organised. There are really three tiers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1839.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1839.3", "colnum": "1839", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "preceding_text": ", but if he continues to ignore the danger with which the country is faced, and the disruption and the ill-effects which will follow, not only will he mislead the country but he will undermine the confidence of the other free nations of the world who are anxious that we should play our full part in discharging our international responsibilities. I say to the Government that, having failed in coal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1839.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1849.1", "colnum": "1849", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "f hearts that this is a condition or posture in which His Majesty's Government find themselves today. Even in this House the Government enjoy what I might call an ambulance majority. The motto or slogan of the Government, if I might be permitted to pun, is solvitur ambulando. Even in this House it becomes necessary for the Prime Minister personally to solicit a \"pair\" for a Minister who is abroad.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1849.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2", "colnum": "1852", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "enfrew, West (Mr. Maclay), with which I was profoundly in agreement. I am not at the moment saying—although I believe it to be true—that nationalised industries and services will always fail upon the test of efficiency. I think that they will, but I am not saying so now. There are some nationalised industries and services which may have come to stay, and we shall all have to try to make them work—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2", "colnum": "1852", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "re you embark upon further adventures on perilous seas,\" or, if hon. Members prefer a shore-based adage which I have already used, \"Do not change horses when crossing a stream.\" I now turn to another argument put forward during the debate, notably by the Minister of Supply. He advanced the argument, I think, that nationalisation of steel is urgent and necessary because of our rearmament programme.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2", "colnum": "1852", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "r, 1950. I cannot read the whole article, which is highly hostile to the Government's attitude on the vesting of the iron and steel industry, but I will inflict two quotations on the House. The Government must yesterday have disappointed the more open-minded of its own supporters. Not a very enthusiastic supporter of the Government—this \"authoritative and well-balanced source.\" Later, the article—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2", "colnum": "1852", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": " whole argument is directed to show that events totally unforeseen when the Bill was introduced are now reasons why it should be applied immediately. Let me admit that there would still be some force in this argument upon other scores if the steel companies were free to charge what prices they liked and to make money out of the rearmament programme, which I am quite sure none of them wishes to do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2", "colnum": "1852", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": " by them alone unforeseen. Why, the present Government have had three defence programmes in six months. Another cold winter brings us to the edge of another coal crisis. The fumbling and inefficiency of the Ministry of Food have reduced our meat ration to its lowest point in our history. The object of all these manoeuvres is to keep the Labour Party together and to preserve the semblance of unity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1852.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1858.1", "colnum": "1858", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Supply (Mr. John Freeman)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Supply (Mr. John Freeman)", "preceding_text": "vernments—on Tory terms. We cannot understand why this should be so. It is the old trick. My right hon. Friend quoted examples of it in his speech. It is another example of what happened, perhaps, in 1922 and what certainly happened in 1931. The Tories always come to us and say, \"This is a time of crisis when we must have national unity, and, therefore, you, the Labour Party or the Liberal Party\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1858.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1858.1", "colnum": "1858", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Supply (Mr. John Freeman)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Supply (Mr. John Freeman)", "preceding_text": "e that the Opposition are broadly prepared to accept that policy which the Government think fit to carry out—for this reason, if for no other, that the Government cannot divest themselves of the responsibility for taking actions necessary to govern the country. At the present moment, as I understand it, on our external and defence affairs there is some measure of agreement between the two parties—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1858.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1858.1", "colnum": "1858", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Supply (Mr. John Freeman)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Supply (Mr. John Freeman)", "preceding_text": " this House, they are in duty bound to do what they consider right. The right hon. Member for Aldershot (Mr. Lyttelton) talked about the decision made at the end of the last Parliament to defer the vesting date. He quite properly said that one of the reasons for that was, no doubt, that the electorate should have the chance of pronouncing on it again. But the electorate has pronounced on it again—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1858.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1862.3", "colnum": "1862", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Freeman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Freeman", "preceding_text": "That in itself is not much of a promise. All we are asking the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1862.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1862.3", "colnum": "1862", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Freeman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Freeman", "preceding_text": "That in itself is not much of a promise. All we are asking the right hon. Gentleman—[ Interruption. ] Really, Mr. Speaker, my hon. Friends exercised a degree of courtesy in listening to the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Aldershot.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1862.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1876.1", "colnum": "1876", "heading": "ADVERTISEMENT LIGHTING (PROHIBITION) ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"It would not get any more coal.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "o ask what is the definition of advertising for this purpose, and whether or not it does amount to advertising to display a sign solely indicating the name of the premises outside which it is displayed, and whether it would amount to advertising, favourable or unfavourable I leave the House to consider, to display a coloured sign \"National Coal Board\" outside Hobart House. Would it be advertising?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1876.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1885.1", "colnum": "1885", "heading": "ADVERTISEMENT LIGHTING (PROHIBITION) ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "An. HON. MEMBER: \"No; only the advertisements.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "I am only introducing this, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, by way of illustration, because the Government have spent vast sums of money inviting people to come to Britain to see the illuminations and the Minister has now introduced an Order to abolish the said illuminations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1885.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1888.1", "colnum": "1888", "heading": "ADVERTISEMENT LIGHTING (PROHIBITION) ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "That is a very interesting intervention. I propose to tell the story in my own way. We shall come to the point if the right hon. Gentleman restrains himself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1888.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1892.1", "colnum": "1892", "heading": "ADVERTISEMENT LIGHTING (PROHIBITION) ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Raikes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why should you?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Raikes", "preceding_text": "ed his figures with the B.E.A.? If not, why does he produce muddled mathematics which mean nothing to anyone, unless it is a check against real figures? My hon. Friend the Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter) asked specifically whether the Ministry had consulted, and discussed this matter, with the Travel Association or the Hotels and Restaurants Association. We have had no answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1892.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-07", "file": "debates1951-02-07a.xml", "sha256": "61152b4a15758c81", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1894.1", "colnum": "1894", "heading": "ADVERTISEMENT LIGHTING (PROHIBITION) ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why should he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "preceding_text": " say that that is within the potentiality of his knowledge. We now know that we have saved a pound of coal. Now may I ask this second question of him? He stated that one can bank down in the efficient electricity generating stations and certain units, and I would like to know if he has, in fact, banked down units in such generating stations because of this Order? Can he give any places, and dates?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-07a.1894.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1923.5", "colnum": "1923", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gibson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gibson", "preceding_text": "Would the Minister have another look at this matter, because I think his information is not quite full enough? Hydthorpe Road is a dangerous road and—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1923.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1943.2", "colnum": "1943", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "With regard to a suspension on Wednesday, I think that that, too, had better be discussed through the usual channels. There might be a slight relationship between the two which is not obvious on the surface but will be understood by the usual channels.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1943.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1946.0", "colnum": "1946", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "nment actions. What we are considering today is not what we think will happen, but what has happened, is happening and will go on happening—and that is the fact that, through the mismanagement and lack of foresight. as we call it, or, more colloquially, through the muddle of His Majesty's Government, His Majesty's lieges are reduced to eating the smallest ration of meat ever known in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1945.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.1", "colnum": "1947", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "Of course, that figure of 26 ounces to which I have referred was an average, and, of course, that means some got more and some got less—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.1", "colnum": "1947", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "Of course, that figure of 26 ounces to which I have referred was an average, and, of course, that means some got more and some got less—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—otherwise the word \"average\" has no meaning; whereas today, of course, the eight-pence worth is the maximum: nobody can get more.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.1", "colnum": "1947", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "s—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—otherwise the word \"average\" has no meaning; whereas today, of course, the eight-pence worth is the maximum: nobody can get more. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] If those somewhat scurrilous cheers imply that the Minister's enforcement officers are not doing their duty, then the blame must lie there. It is no good making noises at me. I have no responsibility in this matter whatever.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.1", "colnum": "1947", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "es not like the average which was 26 ounces. Would he take the comparison with the consumption of meat of a worker earning less than £5 a week? Would he take it with that of men on unemployment benefit? Would he take it with what was given to people in workhouses? Or would he take it with the meat consumption of men who were 'on lower levels of wages, somewhere about 41s.? Will he take his choice?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.2", "colnum": "1947", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Kirkwood", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who mentioned the Clyde?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kirkwood", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and gallant Gentleman asked me about people who were unemployed on the Clyde for two years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1947.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1948.1", "colnum": "1948", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Luxury.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "ments it would be better not to argue at all. We can all go home—and we shall not get any meat when we get there. I shall take these four different sections of people to compare their average with the 26 ounces which was the consumption per head before the war in this country. First of all, I will take the great mass of people—small salary earners and wage earners who were earning under £5 a week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1948.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1948.3", "colnum": "1948", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I am making no comments. I am merely giving the figures. That family on 41s. 8d., a husband, his Wife and three children, were purchasing just on 18 ounces per head per week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1948.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1952.1", "colnum": "1952", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Above?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": " get it from normally? Obviously we would expect to get the greater part from home, or the greater part from overseas: or fifty-fifty as the case may be. Let us see where we have got to in home production at present. Up till now, in beef cattle production we have not yet reached the production we had before the war. In mutton and lamb we are still 17 per cent. below pre-war. For pigs, 25 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1952.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1952.1", "colnum": "1952", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about milk?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "r pig population for pork. Today we take only 18 per cent. for pork, and two-thirds of that is only of manufacturing quality. The result is that whereas the pattern of our consumption before the war was in the proportion of four of beef to two of mutton and lamb but one of pork, today it is four of beef to two of mutton and lamb—which is the same—but instead of one of pork it is one-tenth of pork.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1952.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1955.3", "colnum": "1955", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is what the Americans say as well.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "that until we have an abundance of meat we cannot abandon rationing in this country.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 25th January, 1951; Vol. 483, c. 442.] Nobody suggested that we should, but the indications are that there is plenty of meat in the world today and that we are quite within sight of the possibility of ending rationing. The right hon. Gentleman said he did not think it would happen for 10 years.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1955.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1960.1", "colnum": "1960", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"White's.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "No, I am just finishing. There was an old club in this country which had a motto—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1960.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1961.1", "colnum": "1961", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Mr. Maurice Webb)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Mr. Maurice Webb)", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and gallant Gentleman wondered if he were speaking too long. I can say with all sincerity that the House felt that he did not speak too long. We have heard an excellent speech, a speech well directed to this very serious issue. I myself have no complaint to make about it, except that I thought he was a little ungenerous in one or two of his personal references.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1961.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1961.1", "colnum": "1961", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Mr. Maurice Webb)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Mr. Maurice Webb)", "preceding_text": "a time of inadequate supplies and rising prices. Our negotiations with Argentina are only one sector of the cost-of-living battle, a battle inherent in the chronic, persisting and growing world shortage, grievously intensified by recent world events. This situation has come about, as I hope to show, simply because we, the Government, have been fighting that battle, which is the housewives' battle.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1961.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1963.0", "colnum": "1963", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": ", the system of Government purchase has stood us in good stead. We have always said that Government purchase of basic foods is not a doctrinaire policy. It is a policy dictated by these facts of life in the present economic circumstances of the world. Can any sensible person really believe that our overseas suppliers, such as the Argentine, will give up their system of State or semi-State selling—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1963.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1963.0", "colnum": "1963", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "doctrinaire policy. It is a policy dictated by these facts of life in the present economic circumstances of the world. Can any sensible person really believe that our overseas suppliers, such as the Argentine, will give up their system of State or semi-State selling—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"]—in order to let us have meat or other foods more cheaply? Would private traders get better terms out of Peron?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1963.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1963.0", "colnum": "1963", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"There are.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": " out of Peron? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"] Bidding, as they would be, against each other, are they likely to withstand the continuous pressure for higher prices, which this country, as the main importer of foodstuffs in the world, must endure as long as over-all world supplies are inadequate? In any case, in present circumstances there are no practical alternatives to our system of State bulk purchase.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1963.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1967.1", "colnum": "1967", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Which year?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "ent expired, a five year agreement was concluded in June, 1949, under which we agreed to pay during the first year an average price of about £97 10s. 0d. per ton for meat. Let the House note this very striking fact. This 1949 increase given to the Argentine—it is quite recent—was an average increase of no less than 239 per cent. over the prices quoted in the first bulk contract with the Argentine.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1967.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1967.1", "colnum": "1967", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "on care about that?—obligations such as pensions to British ex-railway employees; the very important question to private traders of the import of British goods in the less essential class; and the settlement of outstanding debts on commercial transactions with firms in the United Kingdom, like Harrods, and so on. We had to consider those things in the background of these discussions. When we came—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1967.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1970.4", "colnum": "1970", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "ything discreditable or foolish in our having tried to hold down food import prices and so to have attempted to change the terms of trade in this country's favour. It was no more than our duty, as prudent men, to have done this, and to have refused to take the easy and seductive course of buying food recklessly regardless of cost. Let me add this—apart from the special case of South American meat—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1970.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1981.1", "colnum": "1981", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Alport", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He never said that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Alport", "preceding_text": " inaccuracies about life in the years before the war for so long that they are beginning to believe them. It has become the habit to talk all this nonsense which, in their saner moments, they know it to be. For example, the President of the Board of Trade said that he never remembered seeing any children with shoes on in his school days, and afterwards he had to agree that he was talking nonsense.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1981.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1983.1", "colnum": "1983", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard Winterbottom", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Malnutrition.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard Winterbottom", "preceding_text": "First of all may I ask the House to forgive me if my voice does not carry quite as well as it usually does, but I have a very bad cold.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1983.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1984.0", "colnum": "1984", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "preceding_text": "Yes, it is perfectly true. The nearest they got to meat was bones—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1984.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1987.1", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "preceding_text": "e cheapest that can be found. World prices are far in excess of this figure of £97 10s., and I say that that is an adequate reply to the critics of bulk buying. I understand that Peron wanted £140 for chilled meat. I take the view that a compromise might have been effected had this issue not been the subject of great publicity. A more restrained attitude in this country would not have given Peron—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1987.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1987.1", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "preceding_text": "ine for canning purposes for stock-piling and paying £268 per ton. My final word is in the form of a question. Will anybody tell me where we are to get alternative supplies at the moment? I agree that the purchase of French meat on short-term contracts at present prices is not much help. We are getting as much as we can from Australia and New Zealand; we are getting as much as we can from Ireland—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1987.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1988.1", "colnum": "1988", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We shall all be dead.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "preceding_text": " face that fact if we are to supply our people. For the Minister of Food it is a problem either of the meat or the price, but we cannot apportion blame to any Food Minister who tries to keep down the price to the consumer at home. In the long run, I believe that his policy is right, that stockpiling will finish and that his policy will then be beneficial to the whole of the people of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1988.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1993.3", "colnum": "1993", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "preceding_text": " well-known fact that wives and mothers all over the country today are giving up their meat ration in order that their menfolk may have some semblance of food inside them when they go to work. Hon. Members opposite should remember that before the war builders and tradesmen in the building industry invariably took a chop or a piece of meat with them to the site which they ate for their midday meal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1993.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1997.3", "colnum": "1997", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is that going to help the Minister to buy?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "lies available to us at a reasonable price. Where there is New Zealand bulk selling and British Government bulk buying, there we have an ideal supply and demand situation which is working perfectly. Where there is a totalitarian party doing the bulk selling, brought about by an irresponsible monopoly which introduced bulk buying, one has the unfortunate situation which has arisen in the Argentine.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1997.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1997.3", "colnum": "1997", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "h has arisen in the Argentine. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Is that going to help the Minister to buy?\"] It is going to help the Minister to buy a great deal more than what is being done by hon. Members opposite. The hon. and gallant Member for Ilford, South, spoke about starvation, while the right hon. and gallant Member for Gainsborough said that it looked as if this country was facing unexampled disaster.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.1997.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2007.1", "colnum": "2007", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Jean Mann", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Co-operative.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Jean Mann", "preceding_text": "aying that the way to get clown the cost of living was to have plenty of competition and free enterprise and to stop bulk buying. In that constituency I used to do my shopping with all the other housewives. I am still wondering where the free competition was or is in Britain. For example, there are Lipton's, Limited, Maypole Dairy Company, Home and Colonial Stores, United Dairies, Peark's Dairies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2007.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2023.1", "colnum": "2023", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Moeran", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"What about vegetarians?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Moeran", "preceding_text": "shadow of a suspicion of an alternative programme to put in place of the programme which the Opposition criticise. It is perhaps fortunate that the hon. Member for Luton no longer holds his office with the British Medical Association, because apparently he now contradicts their statement that there is at the present time no convincing evidence that animal protein has an intrinsic value of its own.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2023.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2027.1", "colnum": "2027", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Moeran", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Moeran", "preceding_text": "e of the facts behind the difficult position in which this country, under whatever Government, must find itself. However skilful our negotiations, we must recognise that the real solution of our food and meat problems does not lie in the hands of the Minister of Food alone. On the contrary, if we are to face this worsening world position in the coming years we have to produce more of our own food.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2027.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2031.1", "colnum": "2031", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Daises", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daises", "preceding_text": "times as much as they do. Hon. Members now find it a subject of amusement when we refer to the heritage of the past. I do not think the Food Minister is without some blame in the situation we find ourselves in and I think that perhaps I could lay the blame just as emphatically as do hon. Members opposite on certain aspects of his case, but the fact is that this situation is a heritage of the past.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2031.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2032.0", "colnum": "2032", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Who wrote that?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daises", "preceding_text": "e evils of the past. Trace it back to successive Governments and importers too who ignored the Commonwealth countries which could today have been rearing the cattle we need. The importers bolstered up the Argentine producers because Argentine meat was easier to ship. The politicians had neither the energy nor foresight to develop and protect their own Empire. The nation pays today for their folly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2031.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2040.1", "colnum": "2040", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name them.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "tion in that industry, and this is one of the reasons why there has been that friction. I have until nine o'clock, I understand, and so I would mention that there is another splendid racket going on. There have been complaints about the Minister, but let us have private enterprise out in the open on this matter, too. One of the rackets going on, supported by hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2040.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2040.1", "colnum": "2040", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "ose tears over private enterprise are really sickening. I took a deputation 18 months ago to the then Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food, now the Minister of National Insurance. That deputation consisted of men who are cutters at Smithfield Market, men who are experts at their job. They made a conclusive demonstration to the Minister. They brought along to the Ministry a side of beef—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2040.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2042.3", "colnum": "2042", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "The United Nations Economic Commission has proved conclusively that bulk buying has, from the point of view of food, made this country what it is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2042.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2043.1", "colnum": "2043", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "preceding_text": "against me in a Foreign Affairs debate by the late Mr. Lloyd George when he said, \"You've done for it.\" That is precisely what the right hon. Gentleman has done. He and his friends are always claiming that the agricultural interest has been spurred on and developed, and they are putting about in the country all sorts of stories of the little that we did in our day for the British farming industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2043.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2055.3", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "f ascertaining the amount of meat consumed per head. However, if he were to do that, I think it would be reasonable also to compare that with the present situation, that is to say, take the total meat consumed in the country and divide it by the population. Of course, if one does that, one does not get a figure of one-quarter of the pre-war total at all. In fact the figure under normal conditions—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2055.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2055.3", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "e reasonable also to compare that with the present situation, that is to say, take the total meat consumed in the country and divide it by the population. Of course, if one does that, one does not get a figure of one-quarter of the pre-war total at all. In fact the figure under normal conditions—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"] Yes, I say under normal conditions when we are receiving meat from the Argentine—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2055.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2055.3", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"If we had it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "nder normal conditions when we are receiving meat from the Argentine—[ Interruption. ] It has been a noticeable feature of the attitude of the Opposition throughout this debate to try to pretend that we are committed permanently to a policy of an 8d. ration. That is quite untrue. Perhaps I may go on with the figures. At a total consumption of 1.8 million tons, the per head consumption is 23.4 oz.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2055.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2055.3", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "of 1.8 million tons, the per head consumption is 23.4 oz.—[An HON. MEMBER: \"If we had it.\"] If we take the case where we are receiving no meat from the Argentine as at present and we assume that for the full year we have a total meat supply of 1.4 million tons, the amount per head is not one-quarter of the 26 oz., or 29 oz., but is 19.3 oz.; that is to say, it is two-thirds of the previous ration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2055.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2056.1", "colnum": "2056", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and gallant Gentleman is, of course, a past-master at comparing like with unlike; I am comparing like with like: the consumption per head before the war and the consumption now, and the answer is that it is two-thirds and not one-quarter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2056.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2056.3", "colnum": "2056", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "We have had a great deal of discussion in this debate about bulk purchase, and of course I quite agree that, in analysing this problem, we have to ask ourselves whether or not bulk purchase is desirable. For our part, we are not in any way doctrinaire.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2056.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2057.1", "colnum": "2057", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "gdom is an important one for the producers, and where, in fact, they desire that we should buy the major part of their products and are therefore prepared to sell to us on long-term contracts because they have the advantage of a guaranteed market. I should have thought that hon. Members opposite who support that policy at home would see the advantage of it abroad. That is, of course, the position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2057.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1", "colnum": "2058", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "Of course, it is our duty if we are selling in an open market to get the highest price we can. Really, hon. Members are so confused in their own minds that they do not understand—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1", "colnum": "2058", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "Of course, it is our duty if we are selling in an open market to get the highest price we can. Really, hon. Members are so confused in their own minds that they do not understand—[ Interruption ]. What are we to say about the hon. Gentlemen opposite who, at this very moment, are demanding a return to free competitive enterprise when the U.S.A. is introducing Government bulk purchase for rubber?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1", "colnum": "2058", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Buy what?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "is not our desire, and we do not desire a return to pre-war conditions when the prices paid to the primary producers of the world were far too low, in my opinion, and the result was misery and depression here. What we say is that, by reason of our operations in these limited markets where we have. bilateral negotiations, we are able to buy at far lower prices than we would if the market were open.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1", "colnum": "2058", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"For nuts.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": " low, in my opinion, and the result was misery and depression here. What we say is that, by reason of our operations in these limited markets where we have. bilateral negotiations, we are able to buy at far lower prices than we would if the market were open. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Buy what?\"] We have to look at the situation in the light of the fact that we are, of course, having to pay very much more—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1", "colnum": "2058", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about coal?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "on on this subject. One hon. Member after another has said. \"Never mind about the price, buy the stuff.\" And believe me, there are going to be some very valuable quotations from their speeches for us to use when the time comes. It is the duty of the Government to take every possible action to keep down these prices, and that is exactly what my right hon. Friend the Minister of Food has been doing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2058.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2060.1", "colnum": "2060", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "t he did say about the attitude of the Opposition, in principle at any rate, regarding these negotiations. It is, of course, one of the disadvantages from which my right hon. Friend and I suffer that we have to be extremely careful what we say in public because what we say might prejudice the outcome of the negotiations. That is surely clear enough. When these negotiations began nearly a year ago—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2060.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2060.3", "colnum": "2060", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "hey did not grant the import licences which had been promised. They did not pay their current debts; and when we began they were owing us some £13 million in blocked remittances and about £3&#x00BD; million in trade debts as well, and a very serious situation was developing. I am glad to say that in the course of these negotiations, as a result of the firm line adopted by His Majesty's Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2060.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2060.3", "colnum": "2060", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the meat?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "ay that in the course of these negotiations, as a result of the firm line adopted by His Majesty's Government—[ Interruption. ] The Opposition are complaining that we are taking too firm a line. As a result of that we have at least obtained the payment of the commercial debts. We have not succeeded so far, as I told the House on Tuesday, in obtaining the payment of the other financial remittances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2060.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2062.1", "colnum": "2062", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": " are not paid for in dollars but are paid for in sterling, and sterling can be used to buy commodities throughout the sterling area, wherever she chooses. If it comes to a comparison between price increases there and here, then there is little to choose between the countries. So far as coal is concerned. I agree, of course, that the price has gone up above the pre-war price, but there has been no—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2062.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-08", "file": "debates1951-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "dcbe32562251f78e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2062.1", "colnum": "2062", "heading": "MEAT SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No; a British import.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "ommodities throughout the sterling area, wherever she chooses. If it comes to a comparison between price increases there and here, then there is little to choose between the countries. So far as coal is concerned. I agree, of course, that the price has gone up above the pre-war price, but there has been no—[ Laughter. ] I do not know why hon. Members are laughing at that. This is a British export.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-08a.2062.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2103.1", "colnum": "2103", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": " in which it was right that the Government should take the responsibility for legislation. We have for some time been giving consideration to the disqualifications which arise from the holding of offices of profit or the making of contracts with the Crown. As hon. Members know, it is an exceedingly complex and complicated branch of the law; none of us really knows where he stands in these matters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2103.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2103.3", "colnum": "2103", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "lf when I was elected to Parliament. It is a complicated branch of the law, and one of great difficulty. We have been studying it for some considerable time. We hope to include in the Bill which we shall eventually seek to introduce a provision dealing with the method of securing that where disqualifications exist they can be brought to the notice either of the House or of an appropriate tribunal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2103.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2125.1", "colnum": "2125", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There are far too many lawyers in this discussion.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "When I fought my first Parliamentary election in 1929, with success, I obtained the pledge and support of two organisations only. I have regarded them ever since with some affection. One was the Lord's Day Observance Society and the other the Off Licence Holders' Society. I think that not only as a Member of this House but as a lawyer we ought to be very grateful to the hon. and learned Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2125.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2125.1", "colnum": "2125", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Red Herring Act.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": " deals with every form of legitimate and illegitimate entertainment. One can collect money for breaches of Sabbath observance in many forms, and I hope to direct the attention of the House to the extraordinary terms of the principal Act in that connection. There is the Sale of Horses Act, 1555, and many other Acts—the White Herring Fisheries Act, the Bank Notes (Scotland) Act, the Apprentices Act—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2125.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2136.4", "colnum": "2136", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You were not here.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. Member aware that everything he has said up to now was said earlier by the hon. and learned Member for Chertsey (Mr. Heald), who moved the Second Reading, and also by the Attorney-General, who supported the Bill?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2136.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2137.0", "colnum": "2137", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "I have been scrupulously careful to avoid repeating any argument made previously in the Debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2137.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2147.3", "colnum": "2147", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "eeded for a better interpretation of Sunday. It is reasonable that some procedure other then this, which goes back for 600 or 700 years, should be followed. It would be better still if we had a more modern conception of the Sabbath day itself. In this I can speak with considerable feeling because I was one of those who voted against the opening of the Festival of Britain amusement park on Sundays.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2147.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2151.1", "colnum": "2151", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2151.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2153.1", "colnum": "2153", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Douglas Houghton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Douglas Houghton", "preceding_text": "s ones, appear to leave to the Private Member the responsibility of introducing needful measures of a non-contentious character, which, had they been given Government facilities, would have been passed a long time ago. I hope that the hon. and learned Gentleman who introduced the Bill will not be unduly distressed by the fact that most of the support for his Bill comes from this side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2153.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-09", "file": "debates1951-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "c313b8cf593e0926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2153.3", "colnum": "2153", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COMMON INFORMERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "They finished their speeches so long ago that I can only dimly remember what they were about. I am sure that the hon. and learned Gentleman will appreciate the degree of agreement that there is on both sides of the House on the introduction of this Bill. Having decided, as I am sure the House has done already, to abolish the common informer, it seems imperative that we should get on with doing it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-09a.2153.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.41.7", "colnum": "41", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Join the Labour Party.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "ould be given the enjoyment of that glittering performance. Alas, I learn it is not to be. Such treats are not for you, Mr. Speaker, nor for me. You and I are \"the lesser breeds without the law.\" Only within the sacred precincts of the Labour Party conference is the foreign policy of the Labour Party described. That is just too bad, because there is nothing you and I, Mr. Speaker, can do about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.41.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.86.2", "colnum": "86", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandy's", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandy's", "preceding_text": " a European army which will be composed of a number of army corps of mixed nationalities. I agree with the Prime Minister's criticisms of the idea of a supra national parliamentary assembly to run the European army. That is something which is not acceptable anywhere in this country, and I do not even believe that it will materialise when they come to thresh out the details of it in the conference.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.86.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.86.2", "colnum": "86", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandy's", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandy's", "preceding_text": "on between governments as to the form which German rearmament should take. But it seems that we are now considering discussing with the Russians at a Four-Power conference the question of German demilitarisation—in other words, the question whether Germany should be re-armed at all. The Prime Minister confirmed the policy of German re-armament in principle, but how can his statement be reconciled—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.86.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.93.1", "colnum": "93", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "I am hoping that in the course of the debate we shall have some more reliable information than we yet have on the extent to which the Eastern Germans have been re-armed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.93.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.99.1", "colnum": "99", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": "ious declaration, and one that is indicative of the present trend in America. Can it be wondered that they take that line? The Government, as we saw in the last debate, sold jet fighters to Russia, allowed our atomic secrets to be sold by our nationals to Russia, and during recent months they have put much more energy into the Festival of Britain than they have put into the defence of this nation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.99.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.114.1", "colnum": "114", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why do they not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "ment and the result, in another year or two years will be that we shall be faced with the same position, except that the arms race will have been intensified. I do not for one moment accept the point of view that the Russians are blameless for this policy. I agree that one of the great contributions the Russians could make to world peace would be to take the great majority of their divisions home.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.114.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.117.1", "colnum": "117", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. N. Browne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. N. Browne", "preceding_text": "weakness and strength of this little island. It would be wrong not to appreciate that if there is another world war we may find ourselves in the same position as Malta in the last war. We should pursue a long-term policy of being able to defend and protect ourselves with our own resources. With the threat of atomic weapons, the Government should pursue a long-term policy of underground protection—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.117.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.117.1", "colnum": "117", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. N. Browne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. N. Browne", "preceding_text": "able to defend and protect ourselves with our own resources. With the threat of atomic weapons, the Government should pursue a long-term policy of underground protection—[ Interruption. ] Hon. and right hon. Gentlemen may not agree with me but I believe that if our great cities, especially London which is built on the mud, were blown to pieces by atom bombs, we should have only ourselves to blame—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.117.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.135.1", "colnum": "135", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "preceding_text": "t that he was thinking of asking the public for suggestions as to what the war should be called, and the Leader of the Opposition turned round and said, \"There is no need for that. Just call it the'unnecessary war.'\" Had the party opposite been honest, had they put the interests of the country before their bank balances, there would have been no war. That is what the Leader of the Opposition said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.135.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.135.1", "colnum": "135", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Read it out.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "preceding_text": "what the war should be called, and the Leader of the Opposition turned round and said, \"There is no need for that. Just call it the'unnecessary war.'\" Had the party opposite been honest, had they put the interests of the country before their bank balances, there would have been no war. That is what the Leader of the Opposition said. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"] That is what appeared in the preface.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.135.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.135.1", "colnum": "135", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Minister of Defence? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "preceding_text": "ccasion when they took a strong line. That was in December, 1932, when they sent a couple of warships against the Persians. Never do we find them supporting social causes. Today once again they want the old gang back in the Far East and in Germany. Speaking for myself and I am sure for the overwhelming majority of my hon. Friends and for our party throughout the country, I can say that they never—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.135.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.135.1", "colnum": "135", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We never said he was.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "preceding_text": "e again they want the old gang back in the Far East and in Germany. Speaking for myself and I am sure for the overwhelming majority of my hon. Friends and for our party throughout the country, I can say that they never—[HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Minister of Defence? \"] I can also speak for my right hon. Friend on this point. He has never been a Pacifist, a Communist or anything resembling one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.135.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.137.1", "colnum": "137", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "—but he not only damages his party here when he makes the kind of speech which he has delivered tonight, but he also damages the interests of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.137.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.137.1", "colnum": "137", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "mbers can laugh, but I am used to alcoholic jeers. Hon. Gentlemen are sitting some yards away, and I cannot smell it. It only needs a few more speeches like that which we have had from the hon. Gentleman who has just spoken, not only in the House but in the country, to destroy for ever any hope of national unity. We are faced with the prospect in the next few weeks or months of a General Election.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.137.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.137.1", "colnum": "137", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "old the industrial areas. All right—hon. Gentlemen want their election and let us assume their party get 400 seats, which would mean a large majority. We may only get 200 seats, but we shall still hold the industrial areas. We shall still hold sufficient, as we held in 1939, of the industrial areas of the country to make it clear that the war could not be fought without the support of the workers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.137.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.137.1", "colnum": "137", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Army?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "the workers. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I am sorry, but if hon. Gentlemen opposite will only take the trouble to read the history from the outbreak of the war to the formation of the Coalition Government they will see that there is abundant proof that responsible members of their party were conscious that the war could not be fought without the support of the trade unions and of the industrial workers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.137.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.139.2", "colnum": "139", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I was referring to one hon. Gentleman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.139.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-12", "file": "debates1951-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "dba89b4b0892970a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.139.3", "colnum": "139", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Law", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Law", "preceding_text": ". Members on this side of the House are very much better democrats than the hon. Gentleman is. In his speech the hon. Gentleman made it quite clear that he had no idea whatever of the ordinary processes of democracy, and he said that, if he was argued down or if people said things with which he disagreed, he would go out into the industrial areas of the country and see that we should lose the war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-12a.139.3"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.403.9", "colnum": "403", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "Did I understand the Minister to say—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Mr. Speaker, may I ask you—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] I am putting a point of order to you, Mr. Speaker. May I ask you to keep the rabble on the other side in order?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.403.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.404.0", "colnum": "404", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "I was putting a point of order to you, Mr. Speaker. Because of the noise that the other side was making—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.404.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.404.3", "colnum": "404", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "In view—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.404.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.406.6", "colnum": "406", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "As far as I know, the order in which they appear on the Order Paper is the order in which they are received by the Table.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.406.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.408.3", "colnum": "408", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "now and Easter we are to have the Estimates for the three Services on which there will be an opportunity for raising many of the points which I think my correspondents would like to raise now. May I say quite frankly, and in all friendliness, that it is no good hon. Members coming to me in the Chair and arguing the case by saying, \"I have a special claim,\" and so on. I am not doing that this time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.408.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.409.1", "colnum": "409", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Defence (Mr. Shinwell)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"What about Malaya?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Defence (Mr. Shinwell)", "preceding_text": "he situation was likely to get worse. At that time there was no reason to fear that far heavier burdens were to be imposed upon us. The position was altered by the North Korean attack on South Korea in June. This was the first serious act of aggression and showed that the Communists, who up to then had not ventured beyond cold war methods, were now prepared to try to gain their ends by open force.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.409.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.420.1", "colnum": "420", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "carried out without loss of quality, that at the end the Royal Air Force will still be what it is now, the best-trained air force in the world, and properly backed, not merely a front line and nothing else. I want to emphasise again that the results of the new programme must be progressive. In 1951 we shall get a useful accession to our strength: in 1952 things will begin to happen on a big scale.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.420.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.422.3", "colnum": "422", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I repeat that when I find the right hon. Gentleman indulging in laughter when I refer to a phased programme—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.422.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.423.2", "colnum": "423", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Stick to defence.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "No. You will not get the Government you want. I give that assurance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.423.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.428.1", "colnum": "428", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Macmillan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Macmillan", "preceding_text": "adds something to the rather meagre information which we received in the Prime Minister's statement. But, even with all the technical advantages at his disposal, he has not been able, as I am sure he would agree, to cover the whole field. Moreover, he felt obliged—no doubt for good reasons—to rely at one point on those vague mathematical formulae which I must say are familiar to me from old times.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.428.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.429.1", "colnum": "429", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What proviso?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "ion from the Germans is made permanently available to us? Or have we to rely on filling their places by Z Reservists sent from this country after mobilisation before whose arrival, of course, these divisions are completely immobile? All this seems to me to be rather vague and somewhat risky. There is also a proviso. I must here say a word with regard to the general question of the 15 days call-up.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.429.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.435.5", "colnum": "435", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "r, will be complicated enough with their various lines of supply, and if anything can be done towards the standardisation if not of weapons at least of ammunition, and bore and calibre, the problems of the Staff will be correspondingly reduced. Here, perhaps I might be allowed to say with what a thrill of emotion I heard, as did all my friends, of General Eisenhower's acceptance of his new duties.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.435.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.439.10", "colnum": "439", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I have offered no estimate to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.439.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.449.1", "colnum": "449", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Lady Megan Lloyd George", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Lady Megan Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "We lost a good many battles before we got to that one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.449.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.450.1", "colnum": "450", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Lady Megan Lloyd George", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lady Megan Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "I am much obliged to the noble Lord for his interruption. In answer I would say that I think it is beyond dispute that this country never went into war with such good defences as it did in 1914.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.450.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.454.1", "colnum": "454", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Proctor", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Korea?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Proctor", "preceding_text": "With common sense and co-operation amongst the war allies, we could immediately pass to an entirely new situation. It is very difficult to get the military-minded to pass into a new age. They stuck to cavalry during the First World War and they tried to go back to pikes during the Second World War. We have now passed into the atomic age. Weapons like tanks can only take the place of police forces.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.454.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.457.0", "colnum": "457", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Proctor", "preceding_text": "debate. They did it with obvious glee. I believe that I saw representatives of Argentina sitting in the lovely seats in the new House of Commons, and I say that they should be well satisfied with the work that the Tory Party did. I want to say to America and those who are responsible for the meat negotiations: \"The British great rearmament effort cannot be carried out on eight pennyworth of meat.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.456.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.470.1", "colnum": "470", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "and other Leftist publications and what many Socialists are saying about China, about our policy being quite different from appeasement, and nothing like what the wicked Mr. Chamberlain said. Mr. Chamberlain was right—and as a member of his Government I still believe he was right—to make the attempt which, incidentally, was supported at the time by the whole House, with cheers from the other side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.470.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.476.1", "colnum": "476", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "The hon. and learned Gentleman is a little wrong in his view. The people they are fighting are the Chinese Communists. I do not want to pursue that matter further, but I would like to say—there is nothing new in what I am saying—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.476.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.478.5", "colnum": "478", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It could mean nothing else.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "That is what the noble Lord said. Let us not depart from it. He said that is what my hon. Friend had alleged. Then he read the extract from HANSARD.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.478.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.485.1", "colnum": "485", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Irvine", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Irvine", "preceding_text": "really are the proposals of the Soviet Union. In either event, the emphasis of the policy of the British Government must be upon finding a peaceful solution of the problems that exist. If the emphasis is properly placed in that way, public opinion will give the full support necessary to this re-armament and defence programme. The Labour Party are faced by a real, inescapable crisis in this matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.485.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.489.0", "colnum": "489", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Who was it?", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut. Colonel Bromley Davenport", "preceding_text": "ar seemed to be inevitable, but in all those years before the war, practically right to the outbreak of the war, the Labour Party consistently opposed re-armament. I will give three very simple examples. On 23 October, 1933, as reported in \"The Star,\" the then leader of the Socialist Party said: I would close every recruiting station, disband the Army, dismantle the Navy and dismiss the Air Force.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.488.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.489.3", "colnum": "489", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Bromley Davenport", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Bromley Davenport", "preceding_text": "No, I will not give way; the last speaker did not give way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.489.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.490.2", "colnum": "490", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "Why does not the hon. Gentleman go and play that hopping-over game, huff his own hon. Friends? Today in 1951 the United States of America—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.490.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.495.1", "colnum": "495", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "country only because of the charity of the American nation. Now that we are free and able to stand on our own feet, now that we are acting like the great nation I feel we are, and now that we are insisting upon deciding our own line of action in international affairs, we are told by the Opposition that we hate the American nation. Has Britain no right to an independent line of thought on anything?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.495.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.497.1", "colnum": "497", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "onservative Party, because I imagine that the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Woodford was able to describe the Conservative Party a good deal more accurately and more objectively than the hon. Member for Flint, West, has been able to do. I was interested to learn that the hon. Member for Flint, West, is a member of three clubs in London. The first of them is Brooks's, of which I know nothing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.497.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.497.1", "colnum": "497", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What aspersions?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "erested to learn that the hon. Member for Flint, West, is a member of three clubs in London. The first of them is Brooks's, of which I know nothing. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"] It may be cheap, but so was the speech of the hon. Gentleman. Hon Members ought to remember that I said at the beginning that if people make these foul aspersions, they ought not to be surprised if they find they are answered.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.497.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.498.1", "colnum": "498", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What are the other hobbies?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "If you had waited a moment, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, if I may say so with due respect, you would have seen, because I was about to show the qualifications of the hon. Member for Flint, West. He describes his recreations as including the reading of history, and the remainder of my speech is going to deal with the reading of history.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.498.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.499.1", "colnum": "499", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "amine the period preceding the war so that we may avoid a recurrence of some of the pitfalls of those days. I was going to start at the period with which the hon. Gentleman was dealing the other night—1935. He talked of that period. I should like to have a look at it. If I may digress for a moment, I would observe that I believe that this Government—a Labour Government—however repulsive it may be—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.499.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.529.1", "colnum": "529", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The equivalent.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "preceding_text": "n increasing its operational strength. Perhaps one of the most important problems before us is to think out a method of increasing our contribution to the ground strength of Western Europe. There is the crying shortage today. The Minister of Defence told us— he dropped a ruby so far as we were concerned—that we had 10 divisions. That is a novel piece of information, for which we are most grateful.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.529.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.541.1", "colnum": "541", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for War (Mr. Strachey)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the Navy?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for War (Mr. Strachey)", "preceding_text": "ond that in the way of calling up Reserves you are not calling them up for a refresher course in training; you are calling them up for service. If you do that, you are a long way towards the state of permanent mobilisation; and we cannot face a situation—a challenge, if you will—which, as \"The Times\" put it this morning, is likely to be of indefinite duration, in a state of permanent mobilisation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.541.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.543.0", "colnum": "543", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "My right hon. Friend has never regarded the 18 months as too little. His line has always been—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.543.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.543.1", "colnum": "543", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the Festival of Britain?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "cause we stuck to the view that the country could not afford to build more than 200,000 houses a year. We were criticised and pushed very hard indeed, and we were told that this figure should be pushed up to 300,000 houses a year. There was no question there of economies, of what we should go without; no pushing aside of television sets and other civilian goods in order to make room for armaments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.543.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.544.3", "colnum": "544", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "by next summer, will be by no means as acute then as it is this summer. Think of the alternatives. The hon. and gallant Member rightly said that we had put first and foremost the needs of the Army, but we must think of the needs of the men to some extent. The alternative would be to say to a quarter of a million men, year after year for a series of years, \"You, and no one else, will be called up.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.544.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.568.1", "colnum": "568", "heading": "STATIONERY (PURCHASE TAX)", "cue_speaker": "Sir William Darling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And the hon. Member for Epsom.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir William Darling", "preceding_text": " for many years and business firms have been driven to some shift to meet it. Large firms have listened to clever salesmen for devices that may substitute for printing—Roneo, Multigraph, Gestetner—these are advertisements of the fact that the printing trade has driven industry to alternatives. But, of course, the printing unions, like the hon. Member for Bethnal Green, say they do not regard this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.568.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-14", "file": "debates1951-02-14a.xml", "sha256": "504676a1f8dd9740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.574.2", "colnum": "574", "heading": "STATIONERY (PURCHASE TAX)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "preceding_text": "ication of the tax to a class of goods which is so varied and comprehensive as to be quite incapable of definition within the limits of practical commercial administration. If I may—I do not know whether hon. Gentlemen below the Gangway opposite are interested in this Order. If they are not, I wish they would go away. They have not been paying attention. Apart from the fact it is very bad manners—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-14a.574.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.602.2", "colnum": "602", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "preceding_text": "Why is the right hon. Gentleman trying to blame the Newsprint Supply Company, when the blame is entirely with his own Government?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.602.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.602.2", "colnum": "602", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "preceding_text": "Why is the right hon. Gentleman trying to blame the Newsprint Supply Company, when the blame is entirely with his own Government? [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] They have messed up the whole thing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.602.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.602.3", "colnum": "602", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "I was not in any way trying to blame the Newsprint Supply Company.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.602.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.615.5", "colnum": "615", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh!", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "e already replied to that. The statement which my right hon. Friend made, was made, I gather, at a charitable affair, where there was a symposium at which various Members of Parliament, including hon. Members opposite, were present. The speculations indulged in with regard to the partition of Ireland have no reference to the present policy, but to some possibly desirable situation some time ahead.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.615.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.623.3", "colnum": "623", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": " Member for Woodford (Mr. Churchill), perhaps I might inform hon. Members that we are below the 100 mark today, but there is still a great number of Members who wish to speak in the debate. I cannot possibly get them all in. Again, let me say that it is no good coming and canvassing me and suggesting that one has special claims. I intend to make up my mind and do what I think is fairest all round.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.623.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.624.1", "colnum": "624", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " measures which the Government now propose. That may do them some good; it can certainly do the country no harm. We therefore prefer the method of direct challenge to what might have been represented as a Parliamentary manoeuvre. Should our Amendment be defeated, we should have placed our views on record, and we should not oppose the vote on the main Question when put in due course from the Chair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.624.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.624.1", "colnum": "624", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "l over the world. The Prime Minister acknowledged this, I should remark in passing, by announcing the very next day, or almost the very next day, that the vesting date of steel nationalisation was fixed for 15th February. I do not suggest that we should be governed in our actions on defence by a single episode of that character. It was, none the less, a milestone in the history of this Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.624.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.628.1", "colnum": "628", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Give way.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I am not arguing with the right hon. Gentleman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.628.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.628.3", "colnum": "628", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "They would have been a great deal better equipped if a wiser process had been followed. The squandering and destruction of what might have been carefully put away in care and maintenance, and thus preserved for use should other trouble come, was a lack of foresight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.628.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.628.3", "colnum": "628", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "destruction of what might have been carefully put away in care and maintenance, and thus preserved for use should other trouble come, was a lack of foresight. [ Interruption. ] I never said anything about the Lord President of the Council, although I have no doubt that he had as much to do with it as anybody else, and much more than his right hon. Friend the Minister of Defence on his right flank.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.628.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.631.3", "colnum": "631", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "What is the meaning of that interruption? I say we have not succeeded in making the atomic bomb completely in this country in the five and a half years since the war. Does anybody challenge that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.631.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.631.4", "colnum": "631", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Is not the right hon. Gentleman satisfying the enemy?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.631.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.631.4", "colnum": "631", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, he did not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Is not the right hon. Gentleman satisfying the enemy? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"] I am asking a question. When the right hon. Gentleman makes the declaration that we have done nothing in the production of an atomic bomb in five and a half years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.631.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.631.4", "colnum": "631", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Is not the right hon. Gentleman satisfying the enemy? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"] I am asking a question. When the right hon. Gentleman makes the declaration that we have done nothing in the production of an atomic bomb in five and a half years—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No, he did not.\"]—that is what he implied—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.631.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.635.1", "colnum": "635", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Stop courting.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "il of this scheme. I shall content myself with quoting a leading article in yesterday's \"Manchester Guardian,\" which I commend to the noble Lady the Member for Anglesey (Lady Megan Lloyd George), who is now discharging the duties of the leadership of the Liberal Party, and who has certainly a right to speak with freedom upon these defence matters, because she voted with the Chamberlain Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.635.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.638.1", "colnum": "638", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The Minister cannot take it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman is talking a lot of nonsense.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.638.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.638.2", "colnum": "638", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So did the right hon. Gentleman once upon a time.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Let me return to the \"Manchester Guardian\"—I choose this paper because it does not belong either to the Labour or to the Conservative Parties. It belongs to a middle party—a party which, in this matter, takes an impartial view.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.638.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.638.6", "colnum": "638", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How long?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "What I have just read is not what I said, though I agree with it. It is what is said by a paper as detached as the \"Manchester Guardian.\" What the hon. Member should do is to write a letter to the editor. In the situation in which we now are there is a danger in dealing in shams and pretences—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.638.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.638.6", "colnum": "638", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How long?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "What I have just read is not what I said, though I agree with it. It is what is said by a paper as detached as the \"Manchester Guardian.\" What the hon. Member should do is to write a letter to the editor. In the situation in which we now are there is a danger in dealing in shams and pretences—[HON. MEMBERS: \"How long?\"]—not only because they mislead us here at home—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.638.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.641.1", "colnum": "641", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. Gaitskell)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. Gaitskell)", "preceding_text": "r had a clear answer on that point. We have been told that we should have demobilised faster in spite, of course, of the fact that to have done so would have meant breaking with the principle of age and length of service which the right hon. Gentleman himself accepted. We were told that there should have been a longer period of call-up at an earlier date. There is one fairly crucial point of time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.641.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.642.1", "colnum": "642", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "iod of National Service. Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will remember—it is very nearly a year ago now—the broadcast which he made on 17th February, 1950—a broadcast, in the course of which he said that the Conservative Party would revise and reduce both direct and indirect taxation. As for defence, he referred to his idea of a talk with Stalin. That may seem a little out of place at the moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.642.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.663.3", "colnum": "663", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": "used such an argument before. Of course, behind the speech of the right hon. Gentleman and the speeches of his friends in the country lies the conviction that re-armament and Socialism are deadly rivals who must struggle until one gets the upper hand and, therefore, that he who supports the fighting Services is the natural enemy of the social services. That is a tremendous distortion of the truth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.663.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.668.1", "colnum": "668", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Give way.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": "On this side of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.668.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.679.1", "colnum": "679", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "preceding_text": "nnot depend on any one man, however great a contribution he may have made to history. Therefore, to reduce the debate to that level is not treating the country seriously at this time. The second point is that the right hon. Gentleman gives the country the impression that he would be disappointed if the Government managed to resolve the present situation without this country being plunged into war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.679.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.695.1", "colnum": "695", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "preceding_text": "World Report: Admiral Kirk, U.S. Ambassador to Moscow, stopped here in Frankfurt on his way to Washington. He sees no signs in Moscow that Russia expects war now. But the Admiral is making no predictions either way, about next spring. Concurrently, Admiral Kirk detects none of the telltale signs of war that the experts watch for. For example: Soviet Army units are remaining at peacetime strength.'", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.695.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.698.1", "colnum": "698", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "preceding_text": "nd 60,000 people travelling three or four hours a day to work. He said that bombardment was in the veins of the German people. I say that the German people are entitled to be consulted as to whether or not they believe that any system of militarism should be again introduced. The finest elements in Germany today are praying, \"Lead us not into temptation,\" in other words, bring not back militarism.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.698.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.699.1", "colnum": "699", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Because of the atomic bomb.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "preceding_text": "tep. That implies a tremendous fear. If it is true that Soviet Russia has re-armed to the extent stated and the Western Allies have disarmed and are in a position of weakness, I would ask two questions: If it is true, why is it that the Russians have not marched in during the last five years? If it is true that it is their desire and intention to come on to our doorstep, why has that not happened?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.699.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.709.0", "colnum": "709", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wyatt", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wyatt", "preceding_text": "ir identity of purpose with the Government in securing national unity on defence. I cannot be convinced that the Tories have a real concern for national unity on defence until they come to the House and tell us what sacrifices they are prepared to make for defence. We on these benches represent those who will be hit the hardest by the rise in the cost of living and drops in the standard of living.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.709.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.719.1", "colnum": "719", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Major Sir David Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Sir David Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "ty volleys—quite properly and of which I never complain—that it is utterly reasonable to be in doubt whether re-armament is possible when the Government must be influenced by its own party situation. What worries us is that the executive of the party opposite, on which the distinguished Members of the Government serve, selected a candidate at a by-election at this time who is a professed pacifist—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.719.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.721.1", "colnum": "721", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": ", they might be useful for Civil Defence or other purposes. I think the whole country would applaud and say that was fair. I am still troubled by the paucity of the results. I understood the right hon. Gentleman yesterday to refer to 10 divisions. There will be four and one-third in Germany—and when he refers to one-third, he probably means a couple of battalions in Austria or somewhere like that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.721.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.724.3", "colnum": "724", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "onsideration given to them. The Chancellor mentioned the danger of inflation, but he did not relate the question of inflation and disinflation to the problem of mobility of labour. I am sure we ought to know the Government's view on this point—and it is obviously one of the most important—of how mobility of labour is to be obtained. I turn to my last point, and I promise that I will then conclude.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.724.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.724.3", "colnum": "724", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "s two years ago—a committee started inquiring into that subject. We have several times asked about it in the House but we have had no satisfaction. That is a matter which I think ought to be considered when the vital question of this aspect is how we are to keep our production and output going on. Hon. Gentlemen opposite have challenged us again and again about why we have put down this Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.724.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.724.3", "colnum": "724", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "rned I will vote for this Motion.\" The Government are attempting to bring in their programme on the strength and by the votes of those who disagree with their programme and have not the slightest confidence in any proposal which has been put forward. That is a mockery of Parliamentary democracy. The hon. Member for Preston, South spoke the one correct word—that they are voting only to keep us out.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.724.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.728.1", "colnum": "728", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Aneurin Bevan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Feather bed.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Aneurin Bevan)", "preceding_text": "tionships which could quite easily be, if I may use the term, anodyned. I have to say something here which perhaps will not be so pleasant to some hon. Members. As hon. Members in all parts of the House know, the size of the Armed Forces fell below expectations because of the manpower position, and it has been found necessary to make a decision that the \"blanket\" shall be removed from agriculture.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.728.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.735.3", "colnum": "735", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": " The right hon. Gentleman for the last five years has been talking as if we were flat on our backs. He has been speaking of the nation as being down and out. The fact of the matter is that in the last three to four years Great Britain has made a greater contribution to defence than any other nation in the world in proportion to her size. Take the expenditures in terms of a national income in 1949.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.735.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.736.1", "colnum": "736", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "t party does not take its own programme seriously. We had from him in the steel debate a description in his own inimitable language of the profundity of his own cynicism. He said: I do not admit as democratic constitutional doctrine that anything that is stuck into a party manifesto\"— \"stuck in\"—I say! thereupon becomes a mandated right if the electors vote for the party who draw up the manifesto.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.736.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.737.1", "colnum": "737", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": ", is that this Vote of Censure has not been put down for any other purpose than to hurry up and exacerbate the political situation as much as possible so that the right hon. Gentleman can get into Downing Street as early as possible if he can. It is not the war menace or the Soviet which the right hon. Gentleman fears. That is not his enemy—his enemy is time; and when he goes there, he will leave—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.737.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-15", "file": "debates1951-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "2946bb6f4aad33ad", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.737.1", "colnum": "737", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "ht hon. Gentleman can get into Downing Street as early as possible if he can. It is not the war menace or the Soviet which the right hon. Gentleman fears. That is not his enemy—his enemy is time; and when he goes there, he will leave—[ Interruption. ] Hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite do not like to take it at all; they always like to give it. The fact of the matter—and I have said so before—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-15a.737.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-16", "file": "debates1951-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "df93cd2d778f8e59", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.755.6", "colnum": "755", "heading": "WAR PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are they? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "preceding_text": "Ballot Box, I at least selected this subject from a very strong feeling of sympathy with the men and women whom we shall be discussing today. There are sometimes occasions in the House in which all considerations of party matters and party prejudice, and the natural antagonism that derives from the somewhat different views of the two parties in the House—I am sorry, I should say the three parties—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.755.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-16", "file": "debates1951-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "df93cd2d778f8e59", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.757.0", "colnum": "757", "heading": "WAR PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "preceding_text": "Will the hon. and gallant Gentleman allow me? If he is going to make that point, he must also point out that in 1939 the Con- servative Party reduced the pension—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.757.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-16", "file": "debates1951-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "df93cd2d778f8e59", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.760.1", "colnum": "760", "heading": "WAR PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "preceding_text": "ganisation of the pits, where they can work above ground. A further objection, which is a forceful one today, is that it would be too expensive. I appreciate that the whole question of expenditure is a critical factor today. As I said before, I do not want to be controversial, but, to put it mildly, some very large sums of money have been floating about recently—I do not think I will specify them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.760.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-16", "file": "debates1951-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "df93cd2d778f8e59", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.761.0", "colnum": "761", "heading": "WAR PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Before the war?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "preceding_text": " know, it cannot go above the 45s. or 100 per cent. basic rate. The present low basic rate of 45s. causes considerable hardship to certain men, which is the reverse of what it was intended to do. I have been given particulars of many such cases, but will content myself by giving the House just one example. It is the case of a man who before the war was a miner, and who was then earning £12 a week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.761.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-16", "file": "debates1951-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "df93cd2d778f8e59", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.805.4", "colnum": "805", "heading": "WAR PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "rious pensions by virtue of Income Tax. The first point I want to make clear is that I know nothing about this deal which is supposed to have been made between certain hon. Members on this side of the House and certain hon. Members opposite whereby Conservative Members, apparently, are making Labour speeches from their benches and Labour Members are making Conservative speeches from these benches.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.805.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-16", "file": "debates1951-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "df93cd2d778f8e59", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.806.1", "colnum": "806", "heading": "WAR PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "I am able to take on the hon. and gallant Gentleman and to do any job he is able to do, but I am not wasting any more time on him. The Motion, when read, is, of course, quite innocuous, and with a number of the arguments put forward from the other side of the House practically everybody on this side of the House would agree; and I am prepared to agree largely with the arguments on both sides.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.806.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-16", "file": "debates1951-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "df93cd2d778f8e59", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.809.5", "colnum": "809", "heading": "WAR PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Is it in order for an hon. Gentleman opposite to say that my hon. and gallant Friend is \"crackers\"?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.809.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-16", "file": "debates1951-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "df93cd2d778f8e59", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.814.1", "colnum": "814", "heading": "WAR PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is a means test.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "I am not proposing a means test. That is a valueless interruption. The only way to find out the different circumstances as between A and B is to know what are their total incomes and their total liabilities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-16a.814.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.880.0", "colnum": "880", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How much?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "I have just given the figure; it is six bonuses this year, beginning in April,", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.880.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.882.0", "colnum": "882", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that every hon. Member will have quite a list of villages which he can suggest. This one was not picked out on the basis of urging people to go there as against other villages. It is an ancient village; the first mention of it was in 802; its motto is \"Independence and self-help \"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.882.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.882.0", "colnum": "882", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"This is a funeral, not a Festival.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": " as against other villages. It is an ancient village; the first mention of it was in 802; its motto is \"Independence and self-help \"—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I thought that that might revive the earlier doctrines of the Opposition—and, in the words of the rector, it is the type of English village where the old rural life is passing away and where an industrial community has been superimposed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.882.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.939.3", "colnum": "939", "heading": "GOLD COAST (NEWCONSTITUTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A good boy.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "ament for another 25 years it is very unlikely that I shall be. But I believe, as the hon. Member for Colchester (Mr. Alport) said, that we ought to familiarise ourselves with all these subjects, and I hope that hon. Members opposite will always make every effort to do so, as I do. My hon. and learned Friend the Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Bing) has visited there many times in the last year or two.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.939.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.945.3", "colnum": "945", "heading": "GOLD COAST (NEWCONSTITUTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dodds-Parker", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is due to the war.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds-Parker", "preceding_text": "y in those territories but also outside. This is not the time to deal in detail with Burma, but one of the great problems in South-East Asia today is that there is a shortage of three or four million tons of rice which used to come from Burma. Without going into the rights and wrongs of the Government there, that fact had led to a deterioration of the economic conditions in that part of the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.945.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.959.1", "colnum": "959", "heading": "GOLD COAST (NEWCONSTITUTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It was the Governor who released him.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I beg my right hon. Friend's pardon. I take back what I said about him and pass it on to my hon. Friend the Minister of State. Nevertheless, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State did not do anything about it; he left Mr. Nkrumah in prison from July last until now. After Mr. Nkrumah has won the election, he lets him out.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.959.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.961.1", "colnum": "961", "heading": "GOLD COAST (NEWCONSTITUTION)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Colonies (Mr. James Griffiths)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Colonies (Mr. James Griffiths)", "preceding_text": "in a Colony like yours in Africa. I would say this further to them: Democratic government is perhaps the most difficult to work. It is because it is most difficult that in the end its gains are most substantial and more permanent, and its advantages are greater. They will have great responsibilities and opportunities. They certainly have my best wishes, and I think those of everybody in the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.961.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.980.0", "colnum": "980", "heading": "COAL SUPPLIES (SICK AND AGED PERSONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member says that we are forgetting priorities. Will he take that a bit further? There is priority, if we can get it at all—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.980.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-19", "file": "debates1951-02-19a.xml", "sha256": "e81e15cd7feac3bd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.1002.3", "colnum": "1002", "heading": "COAL SUPPLIES (SICK AND AGED PERSONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The right hon. Gentle- man must have been in the south of France.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "preceding_text": " indeed by everybody here—has been the mildness of the weather. There was a sharp cold spell in the early autumn. In a way that was a concealed help to the Government, in that it stimulated them to realise what the possibilities might be at an early stage of the cold winter. Since Christmas, and in January, it has been mild. For example, the average daily mean temperature for the first four weeks—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-19a.1002.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1081.1", "colnum": "1081", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "their work was once more to be brought into question? If we want them—I am sure the House does want them—to go on putting their best into their work, we must really express our confidence in the future of the project. How can we do that if we arrange for another inquiry into the future plans? Some hon. Members opposite may argue that we should cut our losses and abandon the whole scheme forthwith—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1081.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1081.1", "colnum": "1081", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Let the farmers do it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "ar.\"]—all right—and that we should leave the cleared acreage to go back to bush, abandon the roads, railways and port installations, and leave the townships deserted. But is that a real alternative? Although the original objectives of the schemes have proved unattainable we think it right to let the work go on, to teach us how hitherto unproductive land can be brought into production economically.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1081.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1081.1", "colnum": "1081", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "cision to go on, it is obvious that very considerable changes must be taken, particularly in the field of Government direction. The new conception of the Corporation's r&#x00F4;le calls for changes in the obligations laid upon the Corporation, and, obviously, in the administrative arrangements. We have, therefore, decided that Government responsibility should be transferred to the Colonial Office.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1081.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1090.3", "colnum": "1090", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "y is really very unconvincing. It would show nothing that we do not now know, after most bitter and revealing experience, and it would, if adopted, lead to the dissolution of the machinery and personnel which we really do need, to keep the project alive as a creative and constructive element in the life of this territory. We all of us know now what is needed to face and to conquer tropical Africa.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1090.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1106.1", "colnum": "1106", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard Adams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard Adams", "preceding_text": "allant Member for Gainsborough (Captain Crookshank) such as we have learned to expect from him. I do not propose to follow him in his remarks, except to say that I thought he was somewhat flamboyant when he said that the Opposition had called for the Minister and the Chairman and others to go and they had gone, when, after all, they have been asking for the Government to go for quite a long while.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1106.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1107.4", "colnum": "1107", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": "hire (Mr. Lennox-Boyd). He said, according to the report of the proceedings, that: It has been an almost unanimous vote of confidence in these proposals and of high hopes that our confidence will be fulfilled.\"— [OFFICIAL, REPORT, 6th November, 1947; Vol. 443. c. 2102.] Those were very kind words. Seldom has a company been launched with a greater blessing from the shareholders. But time passes on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1107.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1111.0", "colnum": "1111", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": "No, I cannot give way. I have done so on many occasions already. Far more millions have been written off by private enterprise in Africa than has been the case in this Groundnut Scheme. Why rebuke and censure the Government for treading the well-worn paths of private enterprise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1111.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1111.0", "colnum": "1111", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": "ing the well-worn paths of private enterprise. [ Laughter. ] What is good for private enterprise should be good enough for the Government without criticism from the Opposition. I have taken a selection of the mining companies in the Stock Exchange Year Book, but there are thousands of other examples. The position here is not as bad as it is painted by the right hon. Gentleman or by the Tory Press.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1111.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1111.0", "colnum": "1111", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": " [ Laughter. ] Take first of all the fact that the Government have written off roughly £36 million. That is necessary under our system of Civil Estimates procedure. Hon. Members know that full well, that if this were a commercial proposition under private enterprise it would only be necessary to write down the capital by half or at the most to one-third to get a fresh subscription from the public.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1111.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1118.1", "colnum": "1118", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hurd", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hurd", "preceding_text": "ouched. As I say, we have discovered some of the reasons why the Germans and the native Africans have left it alone. I hope these will not prove conclusive reasons, and that means will yet be found to use this land economically for the benefit of mankind. That does not mean that the State must farm the land, because politicians are the worst possible farmers. They have to try to serve two masters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1118.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1123.3", "colnum": "1123", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not a very bright Member.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "That is not a very bright interjection.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1123.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1143.3", "colnum": "1143", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "He was not a civil servant.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. Cooper", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Gentleman would cast his mind back to the debates which we have had on this subject he will remember that the Opposition made great play with the name of Sir Leslie Plummer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1143.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1147.1", "colnum": "1147", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": "That was in the first year when the United Africa Company was handling the project.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1147.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1149.0", "colnum": "1149", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": "—and a complete vote of confidence in the United Africa Company, Mr. Samuel, and the plan produced by him and his colleagues. The hon. Member for Spelthorne (Mr. Beresford Craddock) will have an opportunity of intervening, but I cannot answer questions all the time. Subsequently it was the Opposition who began the political ballyhoo and witch-hunting—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1149.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1152.0", "colnum": "1152", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": "e of its immense import- ance not only to the world food position but for African development.\" Targets were reduced. The three and a quarter million acres which had been cut down to two million when we abandoned Northern Rhodesia and Kenya were reduced to 600,000. Still we carried on. What is the position today? Today we have demonstrated that we can clear the African bush by large-scale methods.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1151.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1154.1", "colnum": "1154", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "Horn. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": "That £36,500,000 covers the road, railways, harbours, towns, hospitals, the training of labour, the transport of labour from this country and all the rest. That £36,500,000, on an immense Scheme of this kind, calculated to revolutionise world food production and the development of the Colonial Territories—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1154.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1158.1", "colnum": "1158", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henderson Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: We?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henderson Stewart", "preceding_text": "When we put down this Amendment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1158.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1164.3", "colnum": "1164", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fernyhough", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fernyhough", "preceding_text": "ives in the Legislature where these schemes have been in operation, and, while they were disappointed with the progress, they at least took the line that these schemes have provided work and wages for the natives, and that in these territories, unlike many other parts of our Colonial Empire, because there had been something like regularity of employment and so on, there was no danger of Communism.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1164.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1187.2", "colnum": "1187", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Macdonald", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, he is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Macdonald", "preceding_text": "Mr. Speaker, on a point of order. I want to call attention to the fact that we are discussing tonight the writing off of £36 million of the taxpayers' money and the Minister responsible for that is not present.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1187.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1187.3", "colnum": "1187", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We heard you on the wireless.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "as been in the main—and I choose my words—what seemed to me rather vindictive hunting for scapegoats. I propose to devote most of my time to considering the issue before the House, the issue of this Bill, which is the future. For many years it fell to my lot—indeed, it was my privilege—to take part in the rough and tumble of industrial controversy. Hard words were spoken and hard things were said—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1187.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1187.3", "colnum": "1187", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "e us and open to great risks. Those risks were deliberately taken for the reasons that we made clear then and which have been made clear since. If I and my colleagues had to take the same decision now in those circumstances, the risk, even now, would be worth while. The Groundnut Scheme has failed. I know that right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite will try to make the most of that for party ends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1187.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1194.5", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "ght hon. Friend this afternoon, in order that we may be able to find a way of successfully and economically farming the areas which have been cleared. We have decided to do that because we think it right on merit to do so. When we had to make the decision, we had before us the estimates. Let me admit at once that these estimates of the cost over the next seven years must contain a margin of error.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1194.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1194.5", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Will you!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": " cultivation land that has been bush and swamp and has never been cultivated before, any estimate is bound to have a margin of error. But what we have provided—and this is in the Bill—is the safeguard that in future the money to finance this Scheme shall be provided on the basis of an annual Vote. I as Secretary of State for the Colonies, shall be responsible for presenting that Vote to the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1194.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1196.1", "colnum": "1196", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "ll these reasons, to reject the Amendment. While we have been considering these new proposals, I have been keeping in the closest touch with the Government of Tanganyika and I have had discussions with them in this country. I know that if tonight the decision of this House was to abandon the Scheme or to set up an inquiry, that decision would be received with dismay among the people of Tanganyika.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1196.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-20", "file": "debates1951-02-20a.xml", "sha256": "d157bfd8c96bb9fc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1245.0", "colnum": "1245", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PETTY SESSIONS (ELECTION OF CHAIRMEN)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Black", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Black", "preceding_text": "The whole business of the election of aldermen is done by means of a public vote and everyone knows how the vote is cast.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-20a.1245.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1294.1", "colnum": "1294", "heading": "STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS (PARLIAMENTARY CONTROL)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ungoed-Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ungoed-Thomas", "preceding_text": "thin the third category which he seeks to abolish—instruments which he proposes should be subject to a negative Resolution. First, there are orders made under the Merchant Shipping Act of 1932, declaring that a foreign Government has ratified a load-line Convention—a purely explanatory provision. It would be absurd and thoroughly nugatory to make that subject to a negative Resolution of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1294.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1296.0", "colnum": "1296", "heading": "STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS (PARLIAMENTARY CONTROL)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "with categories of exceptions. He would ride rough-shod over everything. The diffe5rence between the Bill of the hon. Member for St. Marylebone and the Bill of the hon. Member for Croydon, East is the difference between the hon. Member for St. Marylebone and the hon. Member for Croydon, East. We are here, in fact, on the lunatic fringe of the Conservative Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1296.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1296.0", "colnum": "1296", "heading": "STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS (PARLIAMENTARY CONTROL)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "-shod over everything. The diffe5rence between the Bill of the hon. Member for St. Marylebone and the Bill of the hon. Member for Croydon, East is the difference between the hon. Member for St. Marylebone and the hon. Member for Croydon, East. We are here, in fact, on the lunatic fringe of the Conservative Party. [ Interruption. ] I am glad to have the approbation of so many hon. Members opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1296.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1296.1", "colnum": "1296", "heading": "STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS (PARLIAMENTARY CONTROL)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "f orders can already be subject to investigation by Questions to Ministers. It can be subject to investigation on Motions for the Adjournment. The difference is, of course, that those means of inquiry in the House are not exempted business. I suggest that this Measure is sought to be brought before the House in order to increase the amount of exempted business which can be dealt with in the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1296.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1308.1", "colnum": "1308", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLIES AND SERVICES (DEFENCE PURPOSES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McCorquodale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McCorquodale", "preceding_text": "efence Regulations permanently in the life of the community for such economic purposes. In those days the Government had a large majority and were able easily to impose their wishes in the House. Since then we have added some weight to our numbers on this side of the House. I might even go so far as to say that I myself returned from a short rustication in the country. The result was soon noticed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1308.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1337.1", "colnum": "1337", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLIES AND SERVICES (DEFENCE PURPOSES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Gurney Braithwaite", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Gurney Braithwaite", "preceding_text": "nt a great many of these wartime regulations. The Lord President made it clear in his speech that this Measure lies in a kind of no man's land between the two sides of the House. My hon. Friends and myself on this side believe that the State exists for the benefit of the individual, whereas hon. Gentlemen opposite, on the other hand, believe that the individual exists for the benefit of the State.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1337.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1341.3", "colnum": "1341", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLIES AND SERVICES (DEFENCE PURPOSES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "preceding_text": "I would say that this opinion is that controls have become intolerable. I say this in the presence of a representative of the Government Whips' Office, a Lord Commissioner of the Treasury, the hon. Member for Bristol, South (Mr. Wilkins), who will know something about it. It was particularly noticeable in the recent contest at West Bristol, where there was a sensational fall in the Socialist vote.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1341.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1351.1", "colnum": "1351", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLIES AND SERVICES (DEFENCE PURPOSES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gibson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gibson", "preceding_text": "in the country who are deliberately burning more fuel and more electricity than they need for the purpose of embarrassing the Government. I wondered whether he was lending support to the statement made by the president of that egregious organisation called the Housewives' League, who said that in March they would discuss in the council of their organisation the question of extending this campaign.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1351.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1355.8", "colnum": "1355", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLIES AND SERVICES (DEFENCE PURPOSES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "ressing myself. I was dealing with other things. Suppose, however, that the hon. Gentleman were as right in his facts as I think he is wrong, he would surely be the first to agree that that does not in any way detract from the fact, which he admits, and which I stated before he made his intervention, that we have in five years changed our position from one of utter and complete bankruptcy in 1945—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1355.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1360.1", "colnum": "1360", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLIES AND SERVICES (DEFENCE PURPOSES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Booth", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Booth", "preceding_text": "bad business for all concerned—that there are no winners in war, only losers. We cannot do any other than support the Bill, but I do not support it for the same reasons as those given by the hon. Member for Rotherham and the hon. and learned Member for Kensington, South (Sir P. Spens). One of the things about modern war, and the only good thing about it, is that it puts everyone in the front line.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1360.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-21", "file": "debates1951-02-21a.xml", "sha256": "560a0e3c03979956", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1369.1", "colnum": "1369", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUPPLIES AND SERVICES (DEFENCE PURPOSES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "preceding_text": "That puts the position better than I could have put it myself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-21a.1369.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1457.7", "colnum": "1457", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. Ross", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Ross", "preceding_text": "Is the Minister not aware that the horses to which these Questions refer came from Eire and were shipped under the sovereignty of the Irish Republic?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1457.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1460.2", "colnum": "1460", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "fluence and in the esteem in which we are held by other countries with whom we are in the most friendly relations? Did the right hon. Gentleman make any effort to put our claims forward in a sober and earnest fashion, or did he simply accept the fact that we are to be brushed out of the way in this matter which, of all others, apart altogether from history and tradition, is vital to our existence?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1460.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1462.0", "colnum": "1462", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I will certainly look into the matter. I cannot say more than that. As I understand it, they have selected the admiral who seems most suitable for this matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1462.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1462.0", "colnum": "1462", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who are 'they'\"?", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I will certainly look into the matter. I cannot say more than that. As I understand it, they have selected the admiral who seems most suitable for this matter. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Name.\"] The name I cannot say.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1462.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1462.8", "colnum": "1462", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thurtle", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thurtle", "preceding_text": "Has not the Leader of the Opposition, by raising this issue, implied lack of faith in our great American allies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1462.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1463.1", "colnum": "1463", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "preceding_text": "The Prime Minister said just now that he understood that the Americans had selected an admiral whom they considered most suitable.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1463.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1477.2", "colnum": "1477", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SALMON AND FRESHWATER FISHERIES (PROTECTION) (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "It is loosely worded. I could not understand why the hon. Member could not define what kind of salmon he means. Under this Bill the local policeman will be able to deal with unfortunate people who may have tinned salmon.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1477.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1529.2", "colnum": "1529", "heading": "LEASEHOLD PROPERTY (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manningham-Buller", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manningham-Buller", "preceding_text": " entitled to have just as much weight put upon it as Clause 2. The second paragraph is very general in its terms. It says: The continued tenancy shall be treated as having effect, and as having had effect, in substitution for any other tenancy or agreement. &#x2026; Obviously, before the First Schedule applies, the tenant has to come within Clause 2, but once he comes within the ambit of Clause 2—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1529.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1561.1", "colnum": "1561", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "preceding_text": "that, where a number of closely related functions have for long been administered inside a single Depart- ment it is difficult, certainly for any outsider, and possibly, at the present time, for those directly concerned, to know exactly where the dividing line can with greatest advantage be drawn, and I hope that the Lord President, when he replies to the debate, which, I hope, he will do shortly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1561.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1565.1", "colnum": "1565", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "I do not think that in the circumstances any Minister could have brought in a Bill to reform local authorities during the last Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1565.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1568.1", "colnum": "1568", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Member will contain himself a little longer I shall answer his point in the course of my remarks. Another point is the activity of local officers in relation to verminous persons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1568.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1569.1", "colnum": "1569", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "preceding_text": "hat we cease to recognise the real fact that this is an industrial nation, the whole reason for town planning legislation in the past, and that its impetus came from the public health movements of the 1840's and towards the end of the 19th century. If we try to follow a policy of containment of the towns we shall reach a position where we shall go back to the old back-to-backs of the 19th century.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1569.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1578.1", "colnum": "1578", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "going and getting it into operation. The late Minister understood it; I hope everybody else does. [An HON: MEMBER: \"Do you?\"] The hon. Member should not ask me. Moreover, there is a danger about town and country planning being left with no physical and real things to be concerned with; that is to say, if it is divorced from the realities and the bricks and mortar of life, it can become longhaired.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1578.1", "colnum": "1578", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, a Ministry of Housing.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "er these functions, a number of which are related to town and country planning, as has been said. Another point was the transfer of housing to that Department. Housing is one of the kernels of town and country planning. By the way, this is in accordance with an electoral promise which we made in 1945, and which we have just carried out, to take housing to the Ministry of Town and Country Planning.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1578.1", "colnum": "1578", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "d country planning. By the way, this is in accordance with an electoral promise which we made in 1945, and which we have just carried out, to take housing to the Ministry of Town and Country Planning. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No, a Ministry of Housing.\"] I do not think so; perhaps hon. Members will look it up. I think it will be found that the proposal was to transfer housing to the Town Planning Ministry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1578.1", "colnum": "1578", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "t carried out, to take housing to the Ministry of Town and Country Planning. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No, a Ministry of Housing.\"] I do not think so; perhaps hon. Members will look it up. I think it will be found that the proposal was to transfer housing to the Town Planning Ministry. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Well, I have ceased carrying the programme about in my pocket now. It is in \"Let Us Face the Future.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1586.3", "colnum": "1586", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "d appear to be evading Parliament so that we can get used to things before Parlia- ment can interfere with us. I take note of the point. I will bear it in mind, but I do not want to take advantage of it. The real answer is a practical one. There came a time when the Prime Minister decided, with the consent of His Majesty, that certain changes in the composition of the Government should take place—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1586.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-22", "file": "debates1951-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "d0a2af7c01f83d95", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1587.1", "colnum": "1587", "heading": "MINISTERS (TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I am sorry that the hon. Gentleman said that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-22a.1587.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1618.0", "colnum": "1618", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevins", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevins", "preceding_text": "I entirely agree. I have no prejudice either one way or the other.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1618.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1623.0", "colnum": "1623", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "I would not interrupt the hon. Gentleman if he had not made an allegation that there may be some bad faith here. Surely he knows that the pamphlet from which he quoted was never Labour Party policy or a Labour Party document.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1623.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1625.1", "colnum": "1625", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Hay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Hay", "preceding_text": "stened. My hon. Friend has obviously made a very close study of these questions of road transport, and I am certain that the House will congratulate him upon acquitting himself very well indeed this morning. He began by reminding the House that 12 months ago this morning the nation was going to the polls, and the consequence of the ballot, as we all know, was a great defeat for the party opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1625.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1628.1", "colnum": "1628", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Persecution.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": "of a local operator who applied to a licensing authority. He asked for renewal of his A and B licences. The Road Haulage Executive opposed the application very strongly, but the licensing authority came down on the side of the local operator and renewed his licences. Immediately thereafter the Road Haulage Executive cancelled the permit under which the man could have continued to run his services.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1628.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1631.2", "colnum": "1631", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": "I am sorry. Perhaps I misunderstood the point which the hon. Member was making. I suggest that the hon. Member should make inquiries in his own constituency, as we on these benches know that this is the regular policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1631.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1631.4", "colnum": "1631", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": " our business that urgent loads are frequently required to be transported, and the circumstances do not allow our transport contractors sufficient time to apply for job permits. In all probability these people did not know that so very few job permits have been granted that it makes the whole position quite ludicrous. They added: We naturally do not wish to pass the work to British Road Services\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1631.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1633.3", "colnum": "1633", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": "Mr. Holder wrote to the \"Daily Telegraph\" of 31st October, 1950.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1633.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1633.3", "colnum": "1633", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They have not any.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": "y, a healthy and a contented state. I want to remind hon. Members opposite, if I may, that this is a Private Members' Bill, however controversial it may be. So far as I am aware, on their side of the House the Whips will not be put on tonight if a Division is necessary. So I would suggest that hon. Members in all parts of the House should vote upon this matter in accordance with their consciences.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1633.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1634.1", "colnum": "1634", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "preceding_text": " him in some of the things he said and I shall deal with most of them later. The hon. Member said he wanted to see much more competition in the road haulage field, but his seconder, the hon. Member for Henley (Mr. Hay), made it quite clear that he was complaining bitterly of the competition of the Road Haulage Executive in a field which he said should be exclusively that of the local road haulier.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1634.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1634.2", "colnum": "1634", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": "I am within the recollection of the House, and I do not think that that was what I said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1634.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1634.3", "colnum": "1634", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Unfair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "preceding_text": "It all boils down to the point that the hon. Member is complaining bitterly of competition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1634.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1634.3", "colnum": "1634", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "preceding_text": "It all boils down to the point that the hon. Member is complaining bitterly of competition—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Unfair.\"]—in this particular field—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1634.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1641.0", "colnum": "1641", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "preceding_text": " consideration that was given to the matter by the commissions, conferences and reports of experts which led up to the Act of 1947. To wait until £70 million has been paid for the property of the long-distance hauliers, and then to introduce a Bill to permit the private haulier to re-enter the most profitable field in the business is to show a cynical disregard of the nation's rights and property.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1641.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1642.1", "colnum": "1642", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. Hynd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. Hynd", "preceding_text": "t. The Amendment has been moved so well by my hon. Friend the Member for Derbyshire, South-East (Mr. Champion), that I can be quite brief in seconding it. The hon. Member for Toxteth (Mr. J. R. Bevins), who moved the Second Reading of the Bill, reminded us that today is the anniversary of the last General Election, when the legislation of the previous Labour Government was approved by the country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1642.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1654.1", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How many vehicles?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "opardising the 119,000? A case has been made that many road haulage men have been put out of business by the Transport Commission. The newspapers have waxed eloquent on the subject. But it is not so; there is not a grain of truth in it. There are more A and B licence holders in the country today than there were before nationalisation. Hon. Members may be a little surprised at that, but it is true.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1654.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1654.1", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "I have already said, while before nationalisation there were 149,000 vehicles. In C licence vehicles the comparison is between 719,000 now and 383,000 before nationalisation. If hon. Members want a fair comparison, which is between the number of vehicles operating outside the Commission's service before nationalisation and the number today the figures are 432,000 and, today, 838,000—nearly double.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1654.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1654.1", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "he Cabinet—to anybody who will do something about it, because, apart from any narrow political point, here is something which is striking at the fundamentals of our economy. There are 878,000 of them today—and this Bill would increase the number. I want to ask the Opposition something. Is there a ceiling—have they a ceiling—as to what they think should be the total number of vehicles on the roads?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1654.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The Tories did it before the war.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Reader Harris", "preceding_text": "Who has done that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1658.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1658.3", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is the cost of living.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "—having torpedoed British transport on the roads and on the railways? If hon. Gentlemen will read the report of the recent court of inquiry into the railwaymen's conditions respecting the claim by the British railwaymen for decent wages they will learn something.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1658.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1658.3", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "ths, will hon. Gentlemen opposite tell me whether they will continue to allow the number of C licences unlimited growth? I should like an answer to that. Will they allow C licences unlimited growth until they have made the A and B men bankrupt, and until they have depressed the standards in their own transport industry also? We are entitled to an answer to that because it is envisaged in the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1658.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1668.1", "colnum": "1668", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": " great disadvantage because he was not in the House when the Transport Act was passed. I am connected with the trade union side of road transport, so, if I may make a confession to the House, I should naturally be inclined to support a development of road transport; but I am also here as a representative of my constituency and the general public, and it is my duty to set aside sectional interests—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1668.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1670.1", "colnum": "1670", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": "I am not suggesting anything of the kind. I am suggesting that if we continue to take away from the railways traffic which normally ought to be taken by them, inevitably the railways will be unable to pay their way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1670.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1670.1", "colnum": "1670", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": "tee, Parliament finally came to this conclusion and finally passed the Act relating to the co-ordination and nationalisation of transport, and compensation has been paid to those whose businesses have been transferred to the Road Haulage Executive. The Bill proposes that the ordinary short-distance road haulier should be allowed to become what is generally accepted as a long-distance road haulier.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1670.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1670.1", "colnum": "1670", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": "haulier. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] That is so. The basis laid down in the Act was that less than 25 miles was to be regarded as short-distance and more than 25 miles was to be regarded as long-distance. What this Bill proposes to do is to transform short-distance hauliers, who were never in long-distance before—and that is an important point—at least as major undertakings, into long-distance hauliers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1670.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1670.1", "colnum": "1670", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": "they adopt towards the application of this Bill? They would say, quite rightly, \"The nationalised industry has taken over our businesses, and now Parliament decides to allow people who have no experience of long-distance transport and who have been confined to short-distance work to operate in the long-distance field.\" They would naturally feel sore about the attitude of Parliament. In conclusion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1670.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1682.1", "colnum": "1682", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAdden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. Gentleman is reading.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAdden", "preceding_text": "on. Members on this side of the House, I should like to say that we are all very grateful to the hon. Member for Norfolk, South-West (Mr. Dye), because he has had something to say and he has said it, as distinct from his colleagues who have had something to read and have read it. Had they all followed his excellent example, we would have had a much more fruitful discussion than we have had so far.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1682.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1694.2", "colnum": "1694", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "s or the demerits of the Bill, but that it just happened to be the kind of Bill the House of Commons should not pass, was really making the thing a little too easy for him. The business of the House of Commons is to look at a Bill and to consider its merits and demerits, and that is what I certainly propose to do in the course of my remarks. The right hon. Gentleman, if I might have his attention—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1694.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1695.3", "colnum": "1695", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "y, if they are to be made profitable—as I hope they will be—it will be upon the basis of providing a competitive form of transport and on no other basis. That has to be clearly understood. Then the right hon. Gentleman went on to say that of course he had not got a monopoly at all; there were all these C licences. I hope that means that he intends that the C licence position shall remain as it is?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1695.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1696.2", "colnum": "1696", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "e stage of his speech, but I understand that the only competition in which he believes is between the private hauliers within the 25-mile limit. I say that what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander; let them try a little outside as well. He argued eloquently for a properly integrated transport system, but does anyone suggest that we have a properly integrated transport system at present?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1696.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1697.1", "colnum": "1697", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "Far too seldom. The hon. Member seconded the Amendment for the rejection of the Bill in a speech in which be said that we on this side of the House represent the big vested interests.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1697.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-23", "file": "debates1951-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "8778151e5473e88c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1698.1", "colnum": "1698", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "he hon. Member spent a good deal of his speech in saying that the real opposition and the real danger to the free hauliers of this country was not the British Transport Commission but the C licence holders. My answer to that is one which I can express on behalf of the free hauliers of this country—give them the freedom for which they ask in this Bill and they will look after the C licence holders.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-23a.1698.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1723.4", "colnum": "1723", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "I really must reply to some of these supplementaries. I admit that it was not a good buy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1723.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1726.3", "colnum": "1726", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "During the existing meat situation I have arranged for the distribution of imported frozen tripes to be in the hands of Associated Tripedressers Ltd. This is a Government agency—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1726.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1728.9", "colnum": "1728", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "These are rather silly questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1728.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1729.3", "colnum": "1729", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "That is quite wrong—it can be bought in the shops.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1729.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1731.0", "colnum": "1731", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "It is very difficult to follow hon. Members opposite. They have just been condemning us for meat going bad. Here, we are trying to get some sort of balance between the two considerations. The present bacon ration is far from being imperceptible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1731.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1747.4", "colnum": "1747", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Glenvil Hall", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Glenvil Hall", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. May I have your guidance, Mr. Speaker? There is on the Order Paper a Question, No. 67, which has not been reached, in the name of the hon. Member for Monmouth (Mr. P. Thorneycroft). It deals with a firm which is in my constituency. There is a general understanding in the House that one Member does not encroach on the area of another.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1747.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1756.1", "colnum": "1756", "heading": "SUPREME COMMANDER ATLANTIC", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Yes, I think that is quite essential.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1756.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1757.4", "colnum": "1757", "heading": "SUPREME COMMANDER ATLANTIC", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "There are no combined Chiefs of Staff.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1757.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1757.4", "colnum": "1757", "heading": "SUPREME COMMANDER ATLANTIC", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "There are no combined Chiefs of Staff. [ Interruption. ] Be quiet, hold your tongue. Go and talk to the Italians. It is all you are fit to do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1757.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1757.5", "colnum": "1757", "heading": "SUPREME COMMANDER ATLANTIC", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The right hon. Gentleman does not like it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I quite agree, The right hon. Gentleman knows that that was not due to our action. We are trying to build this up. I really do not think that by question and answer it is very useful to try to pull to pieces—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1757.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1758.1", "colnum": "1758", "heading": "SUPREME COMMANDER ATLANTIC", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Trying to gag.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. In view of the difficulties of the situation, and the fact that the whole House knows that this matter is still under consideration, can an appeal not be made by you, Sir, that this discussion be brought to a close?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1758.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1766.5", "colnum": "1766", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "preceding_text": "I do not think that there is anything objectionable in referring to someone as a \"person.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1766.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1770.3", "colnum": "1770", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend asks why are we following the precedent of an Act of Parliament passed by another Government. We were dealing with an entirely different set of circumstances then.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1770.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1790.1", "colnum": "1790", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "the House to the Incitement to Disaffection Act, 1934. Well, there was a lot of opposition to that Act. One does not want to take up the time of the House now, but when we come to consider this Clause in Committee we may find that many of my hon. and right hon. Friends who are now sitting on the Front Bench have had in the past words of the ripest wisdom upon these matters to address to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1790.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1841.1", "colnum": "1841", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frederick Elwyn Jones", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frederick Elwyn Jones", "preceding_text": " the police to enforce that law. The day may then well come when the police will go to those responsible for enforcing the law and say, \"Here is the evidence of an offence under this Section,\" and there is difficulty in refusing to act in such a situation and in picking and choosing when and where to prosecute. We have had assurances from the Government, but this Government will not last for ever.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1841.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1851.2", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "es will be referred to in more detail when we reach the Committee stage of this Bill. The whole of the party now in office opposed the 1934 Bill most violently at every stage. On the Second Reading, it was opposed by Mr. Lawson, as he then was, who was afterwards Secretary of State for War. I am bound to say that the hon. Gentleman who is now our Deputy-Speaker used some very intemperate language.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1851.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1857.3", "colnum": "1857", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "They have said that, if we had followed the advice given to us by hon. Gentlemen opposite, this Measure would not have been necessary. I would advise those hon. Members who say that to compile an anthology of the advice given to us on military matters by hon. Gentlemen opposite. They will find that it has immense variety and rapidity of change, and is so flexible that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1857.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-26", "file": "debates1951-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "28805448f6601e0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1868.1", "colnum": "1868", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "I hope that the hon. Member will forgive me if I do not give way. I do not want to pursue an argument on this but merely to state, as I was asked to do, the Government's view. I should like, finally, to say a word about Clause 6.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-26a.1868.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1898.3", "colnum": "1898", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Non-sense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "I should have thought it concerned trade unionists very closely. Many of the men serving in Korea are trade unionists—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1898.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1919.2", "colnum": "1919", "heading": "MINISTERS' ANSWERS AND STATEMENTS (SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "aker, and I am sure that the whole House wishes to consider what you have said. One point of substance arises which has not yet been touched upon. In the ordinary course, when an hon. Member gets up to say that he would like to raise a matter on the Adjournment, that normally happens as a result of a Question and the hon. Member who gives that notice is the one who has asked the original Question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1919.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1919.2", "colnum": "1919", "heading": "MINISTERS' ANSWERS AND STATEMENTS (SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": " when an hon. Member gets up to say that he would like to raise a matter on the Adjournment, that normally happens as a result of a Question and the hon. Member who gives that notice is the one who has asked the original Question. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Yes. I am telling hon. Members, who perhaps have not been here quite so long, that that has been the position in this House for a great many years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1919.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1924.0", "colnum": "1924", "heading": "MINISTERS' ANSWERS AND STATEMENTS (SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Lipton", "preceding_text": "ble for hon. Members who will not raise a matter at all in the House to ballot for the Adjournment Motion on exactly the same basis as hon. Members who have given notice in this House of their intention to raise a matter on the Motion for the Adjournment. Will you please, therefore, consider the desirability of giving some priority to those hon. Members who state their intention to raise a matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1923.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1951.3", "colnum": "1951", "heading": "CANNING INDUSTRY (TINPLATE SUPPLIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Granville", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Granville", "preceding_text": "I will show the Parliamentary Secretary in the course of my speech, that it does. There are a variety of reasons for this shortage. A great many people in the retail industry are afraid of a famine and a rise in the price of tin. They think that they must do something about it by increasing their stocks. There is also a fear of an increase in the Purchase Tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1951.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1962.1", "colnum": "1962", "heading": "CANNING INDUSTRY (TINPLATE SUPPLIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Tomney", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Tomney", "preceding_text": "ch made by the hon. Member for Canterbury (Mr. Baker White) was, in my opinion, beyond the bounds of decency. It was very insulting. We had the old gibes trotted out about meat, housing and now tin. What he did not say, and what the Opposition forget to say, is that the general standard in this country of all people engaged in all industries, including the canning industry, has risen considerably.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1962.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1981.1", "colnum": "1981", "heading": "CANNING INDUSTRY (TINPLATE SUPPLIES)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Mr. Maurice Webb)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Mr. Maurice Webb)", "preceding_text": "I wish I could start my contribution to this debate on the confident assumption that anything I have to say would lead to no Division taking place; but I am convinced that a Division will take place whatever I say.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1981.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1981.1", "colnum": "1981", "heading": "CANNING INDUSTRY (TINPLATE SUPPLIES)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Mr. Maurice Webb)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about coal?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Mr. Maurice Webb)", "preceding_text": "n obvious question to which there is a very simple answer. Trade is a two-way affair. If we want imports from abroad, we must sell our customers what they want. We cannot be dictatorial in this matter. We must try to arrive at agreement with them. One of the articles which is wanted by the people from whom we want goods is British tinplate. It is, in fact, one of our strongest bargaining counters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1981.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1987.1", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "CANNING INDUSTRY (TINPLATE SUPPLIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Crab.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": " doing, I am sure it would be quite impossible to administer under any regulation I could think of. The hon. Member for Mid-Bedfordshire (Mr. Lennox-Boyd) raised a specific question about Russia. He asked whether or not we were sending tinplate to Russia. The position is that in the first quarter of this year, 1,800 tons of tinplate were sent to Russia in order to pack food coming to this country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.1987.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2008.1", "colnum": "2008", "heading": "MALAYA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": " key questions of power not only for Asia but for all the world. We had better not be mealy-mouthed about that, or pretend that that consideration is not in our minds, although I think that possibly some Members opposite might perhaps be not ill-advised to offer some apologies if not for their own expressions, at least for the expressions of some of their predecessors in title on earlier occasions", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2008.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2008.1", "colnum": "2008", "heading": "MALAYA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "expressions, at least for the expressions of some of their predecessors in title on earlier occasions [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"] I agree that apologies are due from both sides, but I am making this speech. There are not very many Members present who remember, for instance, the sort of things that were said in this Chamber after the fall of Singapore, the kind of rejoicings there were from some Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2008.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2008.1", "colnum": "2008", "heading": "MALAYA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "e, the kind of rejoicings there were from some Members. [HON MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Oh yes. Hon. Members can look it up in HANSARD. I can assure Members that this is an important matter. I do not, with respect to my right hon. Friend and the hon. Member for Wigan (Mr. R. Williams)—I always try if I can to avoid military metaphors, although one slips into them—I do not frightfully like the \"war of ideas\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2008.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2008.1", "colnum": "2008", "heading": "MALAYA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "hough we have rather dropped that lately. How many of them have been hurt? I am told something like one in 20 has been killed or wounded, which is a very high rate of casualty. I do not know how many Members opposite would have proceeded to come here during wartime if in the space of two years or so one in 20 had been killed or wounded by bombs. I should have hoped that we would have stuck it out—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2008.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2016.3", "colnum": "2016", "heading": "MALAYA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Awbery", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They were right.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Awbery", "preceding_text": "e have learned it in this country. These men went into the jungle to achieve their objective. Let me examine the matter in detail. The first demand was that they should govern themselves. I know that the Opposition will say that they are not fit to govern because they have not been trained and know nothing at all about democracy. Did not the Opposition say that about the Labour Party 20 years ago?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2016.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2018.1", "colnum": "2018", "heading": "MALAYA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Awbery", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Awbery", "preceding_text": "I am not complaining about that, but we are not helping them to get ready for democracy by training them. The hon. and gallant Member shakes his head. We have been in Malaya for 150 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2018.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-27", "file": "debates1951-02-27a.xml", "sha256": "f28bb4d02bce8882", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2022.4", "colnum": "2022", "heading": "MALAYA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why on that side?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "from outside may use Malaya as its battle ground. In the economic situation of Malaya there is a greater opportunity for putting through many requirements, and for increasing expenditure to many desirable ends than anybody guessed, even 12 months ago. It is undoubtedly the task of the government, with the assistance of hon. Members on this side of the Committee, to make, not spectacular progress —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-27a.2022.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2073.2", "colnum": "2073", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MALAYA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brockway", "preceding_text": "azi has been deported to a northern province, and to a village on the Sudan frontier, by an order—a copy of which I have in my hand—which refers to the fact that he has been deported? Can he say whether the charges against Mr. Musazi are not those of taking part in the disturbances of 1949 when, in fact, he was in this country, and whether the Government do not now recognise that his organisation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2073.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2097.1", "colnum": "2097", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Hutchinson", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Hutchinson", "preceding_text": "illas '\"— that was where he lived before— and were looking forward to paying no more rent. We have to pay 24s, 4d. a week here, so that, at that rate, they will soon get back the £1,000 which they propose to pay us for Chestnut Villas. That is the difference between a home of one's own and life in a council house. I have a number of other cases which I could quote, but my time is coming to an end.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2097.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2099.2", "colnum": "2099", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. Williams", "preceding_text": "man. Although cases such as those to which he referred undoubtedly exist—and I do not need to enter into the merits of these particular cases—it is a fact that some of the owner-occupiers do not require alternative accommodation. Others can obtain alternative accommodation under the provisions of the Act, leaving a very small number of cases of the type mentioned by the hon. and learned Gentleman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2099.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2099.2", "colnum": "2099", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. Williams", "preceding_text": "tesy if I do not give way. The final point I wish to make is this. On the particular cases to which the hon. and learned Gentleman referred, if one considers them on the basis of extreme hardship, that sort of problem cannot, in my submission, be dealt with by an Amendment of this Section of the 1947 Act. To deal with that type of case, it would be necessary to engage in retrospective legislation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2099.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2129.1", "colnum": "2129", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ALKALI, &c., WORKS REGULATION (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "preceding_text": "how important it is to get proper answers to our Questions, and I sincerely hope that we shall now get from the Colonial Office some sensible replies. I am not blaming the present Minister of Food for what has happened. Indeed, I congratulate him very much upon getting rid of this scheme, so far as he is concerned. He has got a lucky break. If I were in his shoes—one never knows, one day I may be—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2129.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2132.2", "colnum": "2132", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ALKALI, &c., WORKS REGULATION (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of State for Colonial Affairs (Mr. John Dugdale)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of State for Colonial Affairs (Mr. John Dugdale)", "preceding_text": "dal\" in connection with the Gambia eggs scheme. I fully realise that it is not in order to discuss the scheme now, but it is only right and proper to say that it is wrong to pre-judge any scheme simply on a large number of newspaper reports. There have been newspaper reports, but to call the scheme a scandal just because it may not have achieved quite as much success as was hoped for it, is wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2132.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2204.0", "colnum": "2204", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ALKALI, &c., WORKS REGULATION (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Peter Macdonald", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Liquid assets.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Peter Macdonald", "preceding_text": "t was that some people who camped on the site until the sales took place snaffled up the equipment at knock-out prices and sold it overnight at an enormous profit. The people who were genuinely in need of such equipment regarded it as a scandal that only 48 hours' notice was given before the sales took place. We have all heard about the sale of thousands of bottles of gin, whisky and other assets.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2204.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2204.0", "colnum": "2204", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ALKALI, &c., WORKS REGULATION (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Peter Macdonald", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Peter Macdonald", "preceding_text": "of all colours and creeds. They are all having a great laugh about this scheme, although it is nothing for the British taxpayer to laugh at. The Africans are laughing at it and so are even the monkeys in the trees. As far as I can see, the monkeys are the only ones who have anything to laugh about, because they are the only ones who will benefit. The few nuts there have been, the monkeys have got.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2204.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2215.6", "colnum": "2215", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ALKALI, &c., WORKS REGULATION (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "preceding_text": "No, Sir, I did not laugh at the idea of there having been sales. Of course, there have been sales, and some of them have been successful and some not so successful. What I did rise to say was that I think the Committee on all sides are agreed as to what we want to do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2215.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2244.0", "colnum": "2244", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ALKALI, &c., WORKS REGULATION (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "That has no reference to the Amendment which we are now discussing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2244.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-02-28", "file": "debates1951-02-28a.xml", "sha256": "fcd646e1ab58cf53", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2254.0", "colnum": "2254", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ALKALI, &c., WORKS REGULATION (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. F. Wiley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, it is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. F. Wiley", "preceding_text": "I will try the soft answer. I agree with much of what the right hon. and gallant Gentleman has said, because I think that he has clarified the issue. I agree that it is academic. That is why I cannot understand the persistence of the Committee in seeking to obtain this in- formation at present when it is not really relevant to the matters we are discussing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-02-28a.2254.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2276.2", "colnum": "2276", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman will be aware that apart from strategic considerations we have never allowed political considerations to stand in the way of our commercial trade—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2276.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2282.2", "colnum": "2282", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; REMAND HOMES AND APPROVED SCHOOLS (CORPORAL PUNISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sorensen", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sorensen", "preceding_text": "Does not the Home Secretary feel a certain disquiet about this matter?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2282.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2282.2", "colnum": "2282", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; REMAND HOMES AND APPROVED SCHOOLS (CORPORAL PUNISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sorensen", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sorensen", "preceding_text": "certain disquiet about this matter? [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Unfortunately, the answer of the Minister was supplied by hon. Members on the other side of the House rather than by himself. May I, therefore, ask him whether he does not feel a certain disquiet, first, at the absence of proper regulations, and second, at the fact that 12 strokes is surely an excessive number of strokes to be administered—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2282.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2301.4", "colnum": "2301", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Medlicott", "preceding_text": "Will the Lord President convey to the Prime Minister the fact that in the discussion of Foreign Affairs the House is being increasingly handicapped by the absence of the Foreign Secretary, and that while fully sympathising with the reasons for his absence, we feel that the House is entitled to ask that the interests of the Foreign Office now should be more adequately represented?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2301.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2315.0", "colnum": "2315", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CALLING UP OF RESERVES AND AUXILIARIES FOR TRAINING AND INSTRUCTOR DUTIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Thorp (Berwick-on-Tweed)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Thorp (Berwick-on-Tweed)", "preceding_text": "oyer should be allowed to apply for a man's exemption. However, the main point I want to make about this Amendment is that it has brought out some interesting views. We have certain hon. Members opposite who, quite honestly and sincerely, I am sure, voted for re-armament, and yet here they are quite obviously bringing forward Amendments to the Bill to try to wreck re-armament in its first stages —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2315.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2317.2", "colnum": "2317", "heading": "Clause 1.—(CALLING UP OF RESERVES AND AUXILIARIES FOR TRAINING AND INSTRUCTOR DUTIES.)", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour (Mr. Frederick Lee)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour (Mr. Frederick Lee)", "preceding_text": " reached a situation in which engineers had to be called up to the Forces because of the very skill they possessed as engineers. I mention that to show that from month to month industry can change in its relevance and importance to military matters. Do I take it from my hon. Friends who have supported this Amendment that a person engaged in digging out foundations is necessarily a building worker?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2317.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2342.3", "colnum": "2342", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "If the right hon. and learned Gentleman wishes now to move his proposal as a manuscript Amendment —that is what it is, although he has had the great courtesy to distribute a number of typescript copies in the short time available—that is acceptable to me if it is acceptable to the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2342.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2344.0", "colnum": "2344", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "way that it was being said, \"We are trying to take Committee, Report stage and Third Reading on one day\"; so that we did not know whether Amendments were to be tabled on the Report stage or whether we should have to submit manuscript Amendments on that stage. I am in the House of Commons as representing Oldham, West, and I yield to no Member of the House in importance on behalf of my constituents.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2344.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2344.1", "colnum": "2344", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Defence (Mr. Shinwell)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Defence (Mr. Shinwell)", "preceding_text": "Hon. and right hon. Gentlemen will acquit me of any desire to enter into the merits of the question, at this stage at any rate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2344.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2346.2", "colnum": "2346", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "preceding_text": "work. As has been pointed out already by you, Sir Charles, if the Committee negatived the Amendment on the Order Paper then no manuscript Amendment amounting to much the same thing and differing only verbally could possibly be called. The only way in which my right hon. and learned Friend's Amendment could get into the Bill at this stage would be if the Amendment on the Order Paper were withdrawn.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2346.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2346.2", "colnum": "2346", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "preceding_text": "ndment would never come before the Committee. It is in order to avoid that kind of proceeding that the common form is not to give it to some selected hon. Members because they have the inestimable advantage and preference by the Government of being generally opposed to their policy all the way—that being what an Opposition is for—but communicated also to those who generally support the Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2346.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2360.2", "colnum": "2360", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "preceding_text": "I should be guided by the tribunal, because if a conscientious objector had taken his case to the tribunal, assuming that there was a doubt and that a second notice had been issued, the man would then appeal on the second notice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2360.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2369.3", "colnum": "2369", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "rities, before a civil court where he is prosecuted and he then receives a fine or is sent to prison. All that has got to happen during the training period. Is it seriously alleged by my hon. Friends that, the case having been dealt with over the course of a few months—it will take a few months before it can be disposed of—there is any question of the man being prosecuted again during that period?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2369.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2371.7", "colnum": "2371", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Perhaps I may deal with my hon. Friend first, then I shall be happy to give way to the hon. Member for Eye (Mr. Granville). I could present my hon. Friends with the figures. In fact, I have some here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2371.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2375.2", "colnum": "2375", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": "Surely, the hon. Gentleman will agree that if we are to accept the Amendment it must be an Amendment which itself applies to conscientious objectors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2375.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2384.1", "colnum": "2384", "heading": "Clause 2.—(PROCEDURE FOR CALLING UP UNDER S. 1.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I am not prepared to allow my hon. Friend to interrupt me any more. If he wishes to prolong the debate it is a matter for the Chair and the Committee, but not for me or for him. There has been a prolonged discussion and a repetition of argument all the way through. I repeat that the logical sequence of my hon. Friend's case is that we ought not to have reference to tribunals at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2384.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2408.2", "colnum": "2408", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RELEASE FROM SERVICE UNDER SECTION I.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. M. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. M. Stewart", "preceding_text": "It had originally been my intention to ask the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter) to withdraw his Amendment so that we might put down a manuscript Amendment, but as that procedure was received rather coldly by the Committee on an earlier occasion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2408.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2416.3", "colnum": "2416", "heading": "Clause 5.—(APPLICATION TO PERSONS CALLED UP OF ARMY ACT AND AIR FORCE ACT, AND PROVISIONS AS TO DISCIPLINE, PAY, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "The Amendment standing in my name is in almost identical terms. I understand that it is being discussed with the Amendment of my hon. Friend the Member for South Ayrshire (Mr. Emrys Hughes). It raises the same point, but I hope that we shall not regard this as the moment to press this matter to a Division.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2416.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2430.1", "colnum": "2430", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "preceding_text": " some other form which he might prefer. I would say this about the statement which my right hon. and learned Friend made. I think we are all extremely grateful to him both for having made that statement and also for the conciliatory and friendly manner in which he made it. I hope I shall not be treading unnecessarily or unduly on any corns if I say there is something, after all, in being a lawyer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2430.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2436.2", "colnum": "2436", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Hudson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Hudson", "preceding_text": "I regret to prolong the debate when there is a general desire to bring it to a conclusion. My right hon. and learned Friend's commitments are well received, and I accept them, but I am doubtful whether another Attorney-General would be so sure of carrying out what he has said, as I am sure he him-Self is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2436.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2444.1", "colnum": "2444", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Hudson", "preceding_text": "People said that in the First World War.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2444.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2451.0", "colnum": "2451", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brockway", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brockway", "preceding_text": "hen court proceedings had been carried out, and, later, as one who is interested politically, I have seen and heard juries that were obviously prejudiced by reference to the political beliefs of those who were before the court; and it may be true of magistrates as well. Therefore, I am not content with the principles that have been laid down by the Attorney-General from the Front Opposition Bench.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2451.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2452.0", "colnum": "2452", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "ence needed for a conviction, especially if it was coupled with activity of any kind. Anyone who cares to do so can turn up the reports. For people to say that a man was in the habit of organising working-class demonstrations was enough to ensure that he was well on the way to a conviction. A man who was secretary of a trade union and a member of the Labour Party was regarded almost as a criminal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2452.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2452.0", "colnum": "2452", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"For inciting strikes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "e was well on the way to a conviction. A man who was secretary of a trade union and a member of the Labour Party was regarded almost as a criminal—[ interruption. ] Let us be serious about this. Few Members on this side have protested more than I have about the atrocities committed in Central Europe. Today, if a man is described as a Communist, in some courts he is well on the way to a conviction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2452.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2456.1", "colnum": "2456", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "preceding_text": ", but all I ask is that these powers shall not be exercised by night. I only ask that the police shall not arrive at the homes of peaceful citizens, even although those citizens are supposed to harbour dangerous documents, during the hours of darkness, but during the hours of daylight. That concession I think the Executive might find itself able to make without giving away anything very important—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2456.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2457.1", "colnum": "2457", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I should have thought that it was self-evident, but if there really are hon. Members to whom it is not, I shall gladly comply with the request. Searching a citizen's house is an unpleasant thing. It is a thing always forbidden by what is known as our way of life—which is the common law. We have regard for the time-honoured phrase that an Englishman's home is his castle—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2457.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2461.4", "colnum": "2461", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "I am loath to intervene in this private row and you are out of order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2461.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2473.0", "colnum": "2473", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is it?", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Ross", "preceding_text": "It is curious that it is not on the Paper if the hon. and learned Member had put down an Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2472.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2474.2", "colnum": "2474", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "aith. I think that the Attorney-General, from time to time, in the speeches he made, was inclined to say that nothing in the Clause prevents people from holding any opinion they like, implying, as it were, that although they held it they must not seek to spread it. It did not mean that, but that kind of idea seems to be implicit in some of things that had been said. In the days of the Roman Empire", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2474.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2477.0", "colnum": "2477", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "Before dealing with the Clause which applies to Scotland, I want to give some explanation about the point concerning Northern Ireland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2477.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2478.0", "colnum": "2478", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "on and, indeed, there might be prosecutions. If there are those prosecutions in Northern Ireland I can hardly see that some precedent will not be quoted in the courts: and the inevitable argument that the Attorney-General will have to meet in the courts is that the great historic incitement to disobedience by soldiers in Northern Ireland was that by Sir Edward Carson. I do not want to pursue that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2478.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2478.0", "colnum": "2478", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "er should have remembered his own votes and speeches and Mr. Aneurin Bevan should have recalled how he startled the pigeons in Trafalgar Square with his vehement denunciations. I view that comment by a leading influential paper, which influences public opinion in this country, as relative to the discussion of the Clause and I will only quote a final sentence. It goes on to refer to the Communists—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2478.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2480.1", "colnum": "2480", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They have gone.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "disobedience, and in quoting precedents I am only quoting the arguments of the Minister of Defence and pointing out the danger of carrying this Clause because of the effect it will have upon recruiting and the call-up in Scotland. However, I will abandon that line of approach. I submit, however, that the sentences under this Clause—two years' imprisonment and a fine of £500—are harsh for Scotland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2480.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2483.1", "colnum": "2483", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. May I beg you, Major Milner, not to introduce what are really quite strange and new rules for this House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2483.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2484.0", "colnum": "2484", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Davenport", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Davenport", "preceding_text": "Could you now tell me, Major Milner, as it seems to be going either way, whether I am to be allowed to quote any more of these disgraceful statements.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2484.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-01", "file": "debates1951-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "1c7d5307c725ab32", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2485.3", "colnum": "2485", "heading": "Clause 6.—(PENALTY FOR INCITEMENT TO DISOBEDIENCE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "preceding_text": "pon having secured the allegiance of what one might call, perhaps, the intellectuals of the extreme Right even more firmly than it has secured the allegiance of the so-called intellectuals of the Left. I must also confess that I would not have risen at this late hour if it had not been for the regrettable curtailment of the speech of my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Bing).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-01a.2485.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-02", "file": "debates1951-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "e3984558ad9865af", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2536.2", "colnum": "2536", "heading": "RAW MATERIALS (SHORTAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Flexibility.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "preceding_text": "he Opposition today has already spoken, and will continue to speak, in the equivocal manner which has characterised it. The Opposition will, on the one hand, demand controls—as I see that the hon. Gentleman the Member for Solihull (Mr. M. Lindsay) is asking in a Question next week. On the other hand, it will demand an enlargement of private enterprise and private trade. It is by this equivocation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2536.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-02", "file": "debates1951-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "e3984558ad9865af", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2550.1", "colnum": "2550", "heading": "RAW MATERIALS (SHORTAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Before calling the next speaker, may I make a suggestion to the House? There are always so many speakers on Friday that I wonder whether we cannot try to have 10-minute speeches after the first speaker on a Motion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2550.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-02", "file": "debates1951-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "e3984558ad9865af", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2583.4", "colnum": "2583", "heading": "RAW MATERIALS (SHORTAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Priorities.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "n we have at present. I do not believe hon. Gentlemen opposite when they put forward Motions of this kind, and say we can return to the pre-1939 picture. They do not believe it themselves, and would not put these things into practice if they occupied these benches. Are we to have a situation in which private buyers roam the world for materials while the Government have the job of dishing them out?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2583.4"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-02", "file": "debates1951-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "e3984558ad9865af", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2619.4", "colnum": "2619", "heading": "RAW MATERIALS (SHORTAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "May I ask, at least, if we might have an assurance from the Leader of the House, or whoever represents the Government at the moment, that they propose to take into consideration and give effect to the decision which the House has just voted?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2619.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-02", "file": "debates1951-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "e3984558ad9865af", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2619.8", "colnum": "2619", "heading": "RAW MATERIALS (SHORTAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "May I conclude my question? If no Minister is prepared to declare that the Government will give effect to this decision, is it the Government's intention to flout the registered wish of the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2619.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-02", "file": "debates1951-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "e3984558ad9865af", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2619.11", "colnum": "2619", "heading": "RAW MATERIALS (SHORTAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Resign.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. Wilson", "preceding_text": "n) addressed a question to my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House. I have no doubt that my right hon. Friend will be prepared, when he has had time to consider the implications of this decision this afternoon, to indicate to the House what action is appropriate in the light of it, but the right hon. Gentleman will hardly expect me to answer this afternoon, so soon after the debate has ended.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-02a.2619.10"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.33.0", "colnum": "33", "heading": "MOTION: RAW MATERIALS (DIVISION RESULT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "Had the right hon. Gentleman or somebody else on the Treasury Bench been capable of making an explanation on Friday there would not have been any of this misunderstanding at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.33.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.33.1", "colnum": "33", "heading": "MOTION: RAW MATERIALS (DIVISION RESULT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "he decision of the House and its implied binding effects he could not help smiling, and I join with him in that facial expression. On the other point, his observations are really irrelevant. This was an expression of opinion of the House on a Private Member's Motion, and we take note of it. I only want to say that if the Opposition want to use Fridays for Motions of censure I think they are wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.33.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.60.4", "colnum": "60", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is ridiculous.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "relaxing Parliamentary control over the standing Army. That is the head and front of his objection. What I am saying is that if Parliament wishes to bring the whole procedure under the Bill to an end, it has, whether the Clause is in the Bill or not, an annual opportunity of doing so because refusal to assent to the Army Act can bring to an end the whole process of maintaining any Forces whatever.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.60.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.62.2", "colnum": "62", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John McKay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John McKay", "preceding_text": "he Clause so that the matter can be brought forward again—many times—in the ordinary course of the Business of the House. No matter what Bill is passed in the House, there is always criticism and feeling afterwards that something much better could have been provided. That seems to be the position today. There is nothing new in that; that position arises regularly. Let us get to the point at issue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.62.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.64.2", "colnum": "64", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "y that the Order in Council will probably be presented within nine months. It will naturally be presented before the actual 12 months have gone by and there will be an opportunity then for fuller discussion. If there is anything vital or of great importance, it is bound to be exposed and the Government will be shown the necessity for some revision. I have sufficient faith in the Labour Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.64.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.69.1", "colnum": "69", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. R. W. Low", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Twisters.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. R. W. Low", "preceding_text": "ll regret having said them. To charge us with not being concerned with the welfare of the Class Z men is to make a charge which he knows perfectly well is untrue and unfounded. I do not think that he has helped the discussion by charging my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Berwick-upon-Tweed (Brigadier Thorp)—although I do not think he minds very much—with a certain ability to bowl spinners—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.69.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.80.1", "colnum": "80", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "The hon. and learned Gentleman says that Clause 12 may be unnecessary. Precisely. On the other hand, it may be necessary. I return to what I said at the beginning. It is precisely because of the uncertainty of the present position-frankly, we do not know what is going to happen—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.80.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.81.1", "colnum": "81", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "The Bill is only novel because of the existing situation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.81.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.94.2", "colnum": "94", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "May I continue? We should provide machinery for the consideration —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.94.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.95.5", "colnum": "95", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "ircumstances if applications are made to addresses which are given. The making of these adjustments will not be easy, and it is very much hoped that employers will do their best to overcome the difficulties by making adjustments themselves. With regard to the possibility of agricultural workers being recalled for 15 days' training, there can be very few agricultural workers in the Class Z Reserve.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.95.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.97.1", "colnum": "97", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (TRAINING) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manningham-Buller", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. and learned Gentleman asked for it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manningham-Buller", "preceding_text": "f the House. Paying what attention I could to the very long and full statement the hon. Gentleman has made, I venture to assert that no one in this House can have comprehended its significance at the present time. It is obviously a statement of very great importance. Whether it should have been made on the Third Reading of this Bill or at another opportunity is not for me to say, but it obviously—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.97.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.147.0", "colnum": "147", "heading": "New Clause.—(APPOINTMENT OF INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "No, I did not say anything of the kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.147.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.156.0", "colnum": "156", "heading": "New Clause.—(APPOINTMENT OF INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE.)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Might have.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "Member for Fife, East (Mr. Stewart), has pointed out, the Secretary of State, in his reply, seemed to have overlooked the fact that we have now before us the unfortunate experience since 1947 of the working of the Corporation in East Africa, and it is quite true that if we had had some way in which outside and not internal inquiries could have been made, many of the losses might have been avoided—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.156.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.165.1", "colnum": "165", "heading": "New Clause.—(COMPENSATION FOR LOSS OF OFFICE.)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of State for Colonial Affairs (Mr. John Dugdale)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"On what terms?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of State for Colonial Affairs (Mr. John Dugdale)", "preceding_text": "he figures which the right hon. and gallant Gentleman gave as to compensation to be paid to the London staff are accurate. I would draw his attention to the fact that the staff association representing the London employees has in fact agreed to these terms. They consider them to be satisfactory, and a satisfactory agreement has been reached between the Corporation and the London staff association.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.165.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.173.4", "colnum": "173", "heading": "New Clause.—(COMPENSATION FOR LOSS OF OFFICE.)", "cue_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "preceding_text": "olossal sum in taxed income. Why should a man who was responsible for the Scheme get this great plum while the staff get practically nothing? As to the London staff, we are told that 60 or 70 will be in London. I should have thought that two men would have been ample. All we need are two men and two typists and we could use agents to do the purchasing, despatching and make the travel arrangements.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.173.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.175.4", "colnum": "175", "heading": "New Clause.—(COMPENSATION FOR LOSS OF OFFICE.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "You might try.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "preceding_text": "Strictly speaking, I do not think it is in order, because the Clause talks about employees of the Corporation. I do not know, Sir Charles, whether I would be in order in referring to that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.175.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.177.3", "colnum": "177", "heading": "New Clause.—(COMPENSATION FOR LOSS OF OFFICE.)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Have a go.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I am not surprised it was a bit difficult to get this information from the right hon. Gentleman in view of its nature, but I do not propose to pursue it any further tonight for the reason that you, Sir Charles, would constantly check me if I went very far.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.177.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-05", "file": "debates1951-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "15f1142451968120", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.178.2", "colnum": "178", "heading": "New Clause.—(COMPENSATION FOR LOSS OF OFFICE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. F. Harris", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. F. Harris", "preceding_text": "Do I understand that the Minister will not live up to the statement in the White Paper—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-05a.178.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-06", "file": "debates1951-03-06a.xml", "sha256": "407f0a2340b72bb1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.217.5", "colnum": "217", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "N.A.A.F.I. prices are another question, but I have gone into them very carefully. Their prices are based on prices in Hong Kong, Japan and the rest of the Far East.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.217.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-06", "file": "debates1951-03-06a.xml", "sha256": "407f0a2340b72bb1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.236.2", "colnum": "236", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CROPPING TRIALS, GAMBIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member has uttered a whole series of propaganda allegations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.236.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-06", "file": "debates1951-03-06a.xml", "sha256": "407f0a2340b72bb1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.382.1", "colnum": "382", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TECHNICAL PERSONNEL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "preceding_text": " for flying boats have not got high priority. That does not mean to say that the R.A.F. thinks that they will disappear forever, or that we shall not develop prototypes, but it does mean that in this present expansion—and the Americans agree with us—the work can better be done by land-based aircraft There is no mystery at all about the Princess flying boat, but a final decision has not been taken.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.382.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-06", "file": "debates1951-03-06a.xml", "sha256": "407f0a2340b72bb1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.405.1", "colnum": "405", "heading": "YORKSHIRE ELECTRICITY BOARD (BUILDING EXTENSIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": " to know about licensing and it was his responsibility to do that. The authorisations were not sought, but if they had been sought, they would have been granted. It is the function of the Minister of Works to initiate prosecutions and on the basis that the nationalised industries and public utilities should not be treated differently from anybody else. But these were technical breaches of the law.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.405.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-06", "file": "debates1951-03-06a.xml", "sha256": "407f0a2340b72bb1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.405.1", "colnum": "405", "heading": "YORKSHIRE ELECTRICITY BOARD (BUILDING EXTENSIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Lord Peel?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "ons were not sought, but if they had been sought, they would have been granted. It is the function of the Minister of Works to initiate prosecutions and on the basis that the nationalised industries and public utilities should not be treated differently from anybody else. But these were technical breaches of the law. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"] It is all right for hon. Gentlemen to say \"nonsense.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-06a.405.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.418.2", "colnum": "418", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; POST OFFICE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "preceding_text": "Is the Minister aware that when the firm to which the staff is attached moved its address some miles away, the matter was taken up, and the supply of tickets was taken over by the new postman concerned? Is not that an abuse of His Majesty's postal service?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.418.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.437.9", "colnum": "437", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. F. Willey", "preceding_text": "No food is being stockpiled for the Festival of Britain; and it is misleading to talk about a general shortage of food in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.437.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.454.4", "colnum": "454", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. F. Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. F. Harris", "preceding_text": "y must make up his mind what he desires. The word \"investigation\" is his. I am suggesting that when he included that word he had something in mind and intended to have some type of inquiry, of investigation. We expand that proposal by saying in our Amendment, which covers an entirely new point and has nothing to do with the suggestion which was previously put forward, that an entirely new inquiry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.454.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.456.3", "colnum": "456", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Tell us.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "preceding_text": "The Minister of Food makes enough mistakes. We have had enough trouble about those issues in this matter. With the greatest respect, I suggest that Ministers should know something about the words they put in their own Bills.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.456.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.474.0", "colnum": "474", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He did not read from a brief.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "ly today that he could see what we were proposing in the way of Amendments. He has, therefore, not unnaturally, fallen into the easy trap, when seeing the word \"investigation,\" of remembering that somewhere in his brief there was something to the effect, \"We do not want any more investigation.\" That little parrot keeps coming out of its cage and is the theme of all we have heard from the Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.474.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.476.2", "colnum": "476", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "to accept the view of my hon. and learned Friends. I know that lawyers can differ on these matters, but that is also the commonsense reading of the Clause. We know that the right hon. Gentleman does not want an investigation because he has said so several times. He has said that he has already had one. The words of the Clause say that even if he has had hundreds he will still have to have another.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.476.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.479.0", "colnum": "479", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; OVERSEAS RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Will he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "Act of 1948 and have, therefore, a certain hoary look about them, then let him see that any investigation, whenever it takes place, whether immediately after the passage of the Bill or a year after—and any such investigations in the future—shall be carried out by impartial persons on the lines we have suggested in our Amendment. If he will do that, then, perhaps, we can pass to the next Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.479.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.517.2", "colnum": "517", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "that the right hon. Gentleman would have seen to it that they did so. My hon. Friend the Member for Huntingdon (Mr. Renton) asked the right hon. Gentleman last Monday whether he would issue any general direction to the Commission to do this. The right hon. Gentleman, in a written answer, stated: I do not feel it is necessary for me to issue any such directions to the British Transport Commission\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.517.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.519.1", "colnum": "519", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is the shorter working week.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "motor transport would be under private enterprise. I express that hope in the interests of the inhabitants of the areas concerned. How has the Transport Executive dealt with the question of staff? There are still 22,000 more men employed by British Railways than were employed before the war, though the freight hauled is something like 20 million tons a year less. Must not something be wrong there?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.519.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.531.5", "colnum": "531", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Closed shop in reverse.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "hat respect, but I think it is undesirable that such organisations should receive contributions from the State or from public funds when there is a rule to exclude trade unionists. I am not suggesting that another rule should be made that everybody belonging to the society should be a trade unionist, but I am saying that it is undesirable that they should say that trade unionists must be excluded.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.531.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.531.5", "colnum": "531", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We have never heard of it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": " belonging to the society should be a trade unionist, but I am saying that it is undesirable that they should say that trade unionists must be excluded. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Closed shop in reverse.\"] Yes, a closed shop in reverse. It is indeed extraordinary that this organisation has never been referred to by hon. Members opposite when they have dealt so thoroughly and exhaustively with this problem.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.531.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.536.1", "colnum": "536", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Hay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We have had that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Hay", "preceding_text": "May I draw attention to Mr. Speaker's Ruling in 1949?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.536.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.538.0", "colnum": "538", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Ah&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "preceding_text": "an the snow be responsible? It has not been particularly bad. Trains run in Switzerland. The same correspondent went on: Can you get someone to straighten things out? Perhaps some measure of my frustration is given by the fact that this is the only occasion on which I have written to my Member of Parliament. Another correspondent, a Mr. Pooley, says: They were dreadful before they were taken over.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.537.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.544.8", "colnum": "544", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harrison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER; \"To Hitchin.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harrison", "preceding_text": "hese proposals for the improvement of rail facilities in and around Nottingham, because we were in this position not so long ago that we could not remove from the collieries all the coal that was being mined. The rail facilities, owing to bad weather, were unable to cope with the production of the local pits, and these works in and around Nottingham are for the purpose of opening a branch line to—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.544.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.546.0", "colnum": "546", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAdden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAdden", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend did not say anything of the kind. He is not here, and on his behalf I should like to say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.546.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.551.1", "colnum": "551", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Percy Morris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Percy Morris", "preceding_text": "98: At every step in the process of coordination and reconstruction under private ownership there would be a row—newspaper campaigns, petitions, protest meetings, pressure on Members of Parliament, questions to the Minister and the Traffic Commissioners, and all kinds of attempts to squeeze him and the Traffic Commissioners and to warp his or their judgment. That prophecy has been amply fulfilled.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.551.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.551.1", "colnum": "551", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Percy Morris", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Percy Morris", "preceding_text": "average of 125 for all the material he used? I think that would be beyond the business capacity of the cleverest hon. Member opposite. The Minister may join issue with me here, but if he wants the railways to become prosperous again, if he wants to give the railway employees every consideration, he must not expect us to carry the whole burden of £36 million per annum interest for the stockholders.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.551.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.551.1", "colnum": "551", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Percy Morris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Percy Morris", "preceding_text": "ssential national asset and to conclude that the irreplaceable services which they perform should be in part paid for, not by their customers, but by the State? That was the point of view of the leader writer in the \"Observer,\" and I do not think anybody will accuse him of being a Socialist. The restraint revealed by railwaymen during the last 12 months ought to have the commendation of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.551.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.557.7", "colnum": "557", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Including fares.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "preceding_text": "nationalised, as that has been decided, but matters of fares, administration and everything else in this Bill would, I think be in order.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 22nd February, 1949; Vol. 461, c. 1766.] Further, when this point was again raised this afternoon, Mr. Speaker's Ruling was that matters could be discussed which, even though they were not in the Bill, were germane to the purposes of the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.557.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.559.2", "colnum": "559", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "I appreciate the fact that the hon. Member has given way, but I want to pin-point just where he is putting the responsibility for these delays about which he is talking. I want to know if he appreciates that the railway staff as a whole, and especially the footplate men are a good staff? There are many things contingent upon the running of our trains, such as bad coal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.559.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.562.2", "colnum": "562", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I was informed that this was in the Bill, but I was not going to speak until the hon. and learned Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.562.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.562.3", "colnum": "562", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mitchison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchison", "preceding_text": "I do not think I need wait, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, until you point out to the hon. and gallant Gentleman that that is just as obviously not a point of order as many observations that are put forward under that heading, but I should like to say that I do not understand what \"knowing a bridge\" is. What I do know are the facts about this bridge, and I am now trying to give them to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.562.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.570.2", "colnum": "570", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Renton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Renton", "preceding_text": "cision, who made it and on precisely what grounds; and was the fact that the cutting of railway services would be certain to divert still more traffic to the roads overlooked or was it regretfully accepted? There was much more that I hoped to say but I will conclude by saying this. Whatever frivolous attitude of hon. Gentlemen opposite may take, the country generally is alarmed about the railways—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.570.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.574.0", "colnum": "574", "heading": "BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It would have happened anyway.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnes", "preceding_text": "e railways won back from the roads 42 per cent. increased traffic. The value of that to a Minister in my position, facing problems of road reconstruction, road congestion and road accidents, is that, by the expenditure of £8 million to modernise that stretch of surburban line, we have not only won back the position of the railways but have entered upon the solution of other consequential problems.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.574.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.584.0", "colnum": "584", "heading": "Clause 4.—(PROVISIONS AS TO THE QUEENSLAND CORPORATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "I myself would like to repeat to the House what T said in Committee, which was that, so far as this Government is concerned, we have no intention of asking the House to exercise the power to make further advances for at least two years. If I could be assured that I were likely to be Minister of Food—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.584.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.584.0", "colnum": "584", "heading": "Clause 4.—(PROVISIONS AS TO THE QUEENSLAND CORPORATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "d Scheme. Obviously, it is an unimaginative job done by people with no ambition and no ideas about it. We have decided that we ought now to expand this Scheme. We have decided that there is a great opportunity in Queensland to extend the production of meat, and therefore we will make these advances.\" What would happen then? If the House accepts this Amendment, they would be fettered straight away.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.584.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.588.0", "colnum": "588", "heading": "Clause 4.—(PROVISIONS AS TO THE QUEENSLAND CORPORATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "of the world we cannot take them on the same basis as we might otherwise have done. The Government must come here—and I do not say this in any improper sense—with clean hands. It is important that we should tie them up, not that it really matters to the right hon. Gentleman, because he will not be there at the end of two years, and the Opposition are therefore imposing a restraint upon themselves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.588.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.595.1", "colnum": "595", "heading": "Clause 4.—(PROVISIONS AS TO THE QUEENSLAND CORPORATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": "e shall watch with the utmost interest anything that affects the dual concern of the Commonwealth of Australia and of the United Kingdom. Apart from these two considerations—the transference to the Colonial Office and the Queensland Scheme—what is the only other purpose of the Bill? It is to spend another £6 million, allowing for a wide margin of error, on what, no one can deny, is another gamble.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.595.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-07", "file": "debates1951-03-07a.xml", "sha256": "1e6aa919b3653367", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.602.7", "colnum": "602", "heading": "Clause 4.—(PROVISIONS AS TO THE QUEENSLAND CORPORATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "If you rule that I am not to proceed with the argument I will not. But that Ruling comes, if I may say so with all respect, very acceptably, because I had finished dealing with the point. I have made my case and I shall now turn to my second point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-07a.602.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.634.5", "colnum": "634", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wade", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wade", "preceding_text": "ise Civil Defence units in their own factories and among their own staff and that this uncertainty partially accounts for the delay in recruiting? Further, is he aware that there is a certain amount of feeling among Z and G reservists that they are being called upon to bear rather more than their fair share of the burden, and that it would help to create a greater sense of justice if it was known—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.634.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.668.1", "colnum": "668", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "Either it could be raised on the Adjournment some time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.668.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.669.0", "colnum": "669", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is not a change.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "This is of course a most important change that you have made—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.669.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.670.1", "colnum": "670", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "In what way, Sir, has there been an abuse of Standing Orders, an avoidance of Standing Orders? In what way has there been that since the House met; and why should this matter suddenly be altered when you had not come in and given any Ruling in the first instance, and you come in and give a special Ruling now without our having any opportunity—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.670.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.670.6", "colnum": "670", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "As the proportionality of Members is—[ Interruption ]—as the proportion of hon. Members is—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.670.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.672.1", "colnum": "672", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mathers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mathers", "preceding_text": "It may reduce the temperature a little if I, as Chairman of the Committee of Selection, were to recount how this difficulty arose.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.672.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.672.1", "colnum": "672", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mathers", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mathers", "preceding_text": "It may reduce the temperature a little if I, as Chairman of the Committee of Selection, were to recount how this difficulty arose. [HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"] I thought of making a short statement to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.672.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.672.8", "colnum": "672", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mathers", "cue_text": "HON, MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mathers", "preceding_text": "ommittees. In setting up a Committee of 50, the rough calculation—without going into the question of percentages and fractions of percentages—provided for 25 Government supporters. 24 Conservatives and one Liberal. The reason for the change that has taken place is that, having set up a Committee with that strength, which considered the Sea Fish Industry Bill, there was a reverse in that Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.672.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.672.8", "colnum": "672", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mathers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mathers", "preceding_text": "ght that there should be a Government majority on all Committees. I replied that that was the intention of the rules governing the appointment of Committees, but that the Bills which had been sent upstairs did not seem to be controversial, and, therefore, the Committee of Selection had given the fullest number of Members that it was possible to put on a Committee. When the mistake was pointed out—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.672.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.674.4", "colnum": "674", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomeycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomeycroft", "preceding_text": "I am on a point of order myself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.674.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.674.8", "colnum": "674", "heading": "STANDING COMMITTEES (COMPOSITION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomeycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomeycroft", "preceding_text": "This change comes at a moment when the Transport (Amendment) Bill is about to enter upon its Committee stage and at a time when many of the Government supporters have threatened to wreck it during the Committee stage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.674.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.676.5", "colnum": "676", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Rodgers", "preceding_text": "With your permission, Mr. Speaker, I should like to say, first, that I was given no prior notice that this question was going to be raised.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.676.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.676.6", "colnum": "676", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I hope that hon. Members opposite, and the hon. Member himself, will acquit me of that at once. I did everything in my power to give the hon. Member notice, and I must tell the House exactly what I did, so that the House may judge whether I acted fairly or not. I had to do the thing quickly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.676.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.677.0", "colnum": "677", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Whose directions?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "advice upon the subject, and, having obtained that advice, I wrote a letter to the hon. Member yesterday afternoon, which I marked \"Private\" and \"Urgent,\" and handed it in the ordinary way to a Messenger of the House of Commons. I could not give more notice, and I shall say exactly why. I shall tell the House what happened, because I was under directions to raise the matter today, and, therefore——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.676.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.677.2", "colnum": "677", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "I only want to get this matter clear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.677.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.677.3", "colnum": "677", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I think that I acted in a way that any other hon. Member of the House would have done, and I am quite certain that the right hon. Gentleman who has asked me the question would, in the same case, have acted in the same way—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.677.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.677.4", "colnum": "677", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "s I had this information, I took what I hope are the proper steps to find out what was the proper course to take. After seeking advice, I was told that the proper thing to do was to raise the matter after Questions today, and, in the meantime, to give the hon. Member concerned notice of it. I therefore submit to the House very respectfully that I did everything that anyone could be expected to do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.677.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.678.1", "colnum": "678", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Surely, there are matters here which affect all Private Members. I am not blaming anybody because the communication did not arrive, but on a matter of such a personal character as this, surely, Sir, now that you are satisfied that the hon. Gentleman did not even know that the matter was going to be raised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.678.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.679.6", "colnum": "679", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "With all respect, Mr. Speaker, is there any precedent for placing a Member of this House in that position without his ever having received the communication on which he is indicted? I would say, with all respect, that has never happened since the days of Charles I.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.679.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.680.0", "colnum": "680", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "e a Motion for the consideration of the House. I proceed, therefore, to do so, but may I give for one minute only, because I do not want to detain the House, my reason for the Motion I propose to move? First of all, I would like to say to the hon. Member for Sevenoaks, that I profoundly regret that he has not received the notice I sent him. I really must ask him to acquit me of any responsibility.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.680.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.681.3", "colnum": "681", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Do I understand you to say, Mr. Speaker, that you would be glad if the Motion to refer this matter to a Committee of Privileges could be adjourned?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.681.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.682.3", "colnum": "682", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Move it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I have not moved it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.682.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.682.3", "colnum": "682", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Move it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I have not moved it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Move it.\"] I was not seeking to discuss the merits at all, but only seeking to explain why in my opinion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.682.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.683.2", "colnum": "683", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "t the matter to the Committee of Privileges in which the conduct of a member of another place will be directly involved. At any rate, that is a point of substance, and although I could easily expatiate on the subject I have no wish to stand between the House and the Secretary of State for War whose statement everybody is waiting with so much eagerness. Therefore, I will content myself with moving—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.683.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.699.5", "colnum": "699", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Army Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about those in store?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "w going on at a pretty substantial rate. Another vast item of expenditure is, of course, the clothing of the Army. Another is the transport, which sometimes seems almost endless. Just to pick out one item from what I call the unromantic list, I notice that we are spending almost £2 million on jerricans, but I think that if all the vehicles of the Army have to be fuelled this is no doubt necessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.699.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.704.1", "colnum": "704", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Army Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The right hon. Gentleman may as well tell us now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "I think that is going a little too far into details. All I can say is it is going ahead, and it will not be very long before—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.704.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.772.1", "colnum": "772", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "preceding_text": "rage it. The truth is that there has been no real lead from the Government in approaching industry to get a uniform and satisfactory solution to this difficulty. The next point I wish to make is one of importance. When the men get to camp are proper arrangements made? I do not mean, of course, the provision of feather beds and reading lamps; nobody who joins the Army wants or expects those things.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.772.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.807.4", "colnum": "807", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "preceding_text": "he Under-Secretary on the lucid way in which he has answered the debate on the Amendment proposed by my hon. Friend the Member for Hitchin (Mr. Fisher). It was of the quality we expect of him, and for it we are very grateful, although not necessarily always agreeing with what he said. The hour is late and I am well aware that to hon. Members who are waiting to speak, any speech is always too long.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.807.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.839.1", "colnum": "839", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"What are the figures?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "The recruiting figures may have doubled, but, double or not, one can double a figure which is so small as to be ridiculous.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.839.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1", "colnum": "843", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "preceding_text": "g in it, and flats and houses in Hong Kong are renting at inflated prices. Because a man goes to Korea to fight, it is unfair that the should be worse off financially. I do not think anybody, not even hon. Members on the other side, would ask a soldier to fight for his country for less money than is paid to a man sitting in Hong Kong. After great pressure from both sides of the House at Christmas—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1", "colnum": "843", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "preceding_text": "these things too late—devaluation and all the errors the Government have made since 1945, and this improved plan, which is many months too late. When the Government decided upon the period for which the reservists were to be called up, they should have told the country. Why were the wives and mothers left in concern until they were told in January, when they could have been told back in September?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1", "colnum": "843", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: \"Go on&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "preceding_text": "e Government have made since 1945, and this improved plan, which is many months too late. When the Government decided upon the period for which the reservists were to be called up, they should have told the country. Why were the wives and mothers left in concern until they were told in January, when they could have been told back in September? [ Interruption. ]I shall make my speech in my own way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1", "colnum": "843", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "preceding_text": "ly I do not agree that they are anything like enough. By the time Income Tax is deducted the soldier gets very little indeed, and it is a mistake to believe that is going to increase recruiting any more than it has to date: The thing that is required is better pensions, not only for the soldier who is leaving the Army today, tomorrow or the next day or next year, but for the man who left in 1939.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1", "colnum": "843", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"White's.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "preceding_text": " who is leaving the Army today, tomorrow or the next day or next year, but for the man who left in 1939.—[ Interruption. ]—No, I am not asking for any pension myself. Hon. Gentlemen opposite know very well there was a cut in pensions in 1931 and that the cost of living has since gone up, but they have done nothing at all to alter the pension rates. There are many officers in clubs in London today—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1", "colnum": "843", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Read it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "preceding_text": "en very good. I have not heard a word about it. Certain soldiers are suffering from skin diseases, and very serious skin diseases they are for young boys of 18 to have. I hope the Secretary of State will look into this matter and see whether there is not something he can do to prevent young men from contracting these skin diseases. Perhaps the Minister has not read what is written in paragraph 32—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1", "colnum": "843", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier T. H. Clarke", "preceding_text": "pt our youth, let us seek their cooperation in a common cause by methods of 1951 rather than those of the Crimean War. Military might, as we have seen, is apt to ride, booted and spurred, over the very instructions of Governments. These people must be brought to heel and taught that they are the servants of democracy along with the most humble of working-class conscripts, bewildered and bewitched.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.843.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.852.1", "colnum": "852", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He has no secretary to pay.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": " Today the officer's rate of pay does not compare too badly in many respects. I think it was the hon. and gallant Member for Carshalton who compared it with our rates of pay as Members of this House. After all, if you look down the table printed on page 177 of the Estimates, you will see that a captain, after four years' service in the ranks, just passes the rate of pay of a Member of Parliament.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.852.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.869.1", "colnum": "869", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nicholls", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Slunk\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nicholls", "preceding_text": " good schemes they inherited from the Caretaker Government of my right hon. Friend the Member for Woodford (Mr. Churchill). We know the old clich&#x00E9; \"The last straw that broke the camel's back,\" but now it may be the last piece of cotton that will break it. This Instrument is another sympton of this tragic trend, and I believe that it would have been wrong for this Instrument to have slinked—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.869.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.870.4", "colnum": "870", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Trade (Mr. Rhodes)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Trade (Mr. Rhodes)", "preceding_text": "e they feel that the price increases allowed have not been enough. If hon. Gentlemen opposite feel that the Government are, on this particular issue, not doing all they can to prevent prices rising unduly and without sufficient cause, they should ask manufacturers whether they feel that the new prices are unduly generous or not. I would ask the hon. Member for Peterborough to withdraw this Prayer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.870.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.877.8", "colnum": "877", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "praying that the Order, dated 7th February 1951, entitled the Furniture (Maximum Prices) (Amendment No. 3) Order, 1951 (S.I., 1951, No. 205), a copy of which was laid before this House on 8th February, be annulled. This Order raises two issues. One is the content of the Order. The other is a question similar to the one I raised last night on another matter—whether the Order has been properly made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.877.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.877.8", "colnum": "877", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "this House on 8th February, be annulled. This Order raises two issues. One is the content of the Order. The other is a question similar to the one I raised last night on another matter—whether the Order has been properly made. [ Interruption. ]I understand that it is one of the rules of this House that hon. Members who are not in the Chamber are committing an offence if they interrupt proceedings—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.877.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.877.8", "colnum": "877", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "been properly made. [ Interruption. ]I understand that it is one of the rules of this House that hon. Members who are not in the Chamber are committing an offence if they interrupt proceedings—[ Interruption. ]—I beg leave, Mr. Speaker, to draw your attention to the fact that a considerable number of hon. Members beyond the Bar are seeking to make it impossible for an orderly debate to take place.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.877.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1", "colnum": "878", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "I have had considerable experience of addressing meetings attended by Members belonging to the party opposite and I have always observed that when they are in a difficulty they are always the noisiest—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1", "colnum": "878", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "les by telephoning to the Board of Trade, where an official was good enough to take their copies out of the library and send them to me at the House. These documents ought to be available to every hon. Member, otherwise it is a complete farce to attempt to debate them. In all probability the only two copies of these Schedules in the Palace of Westminster are the ones in my possession and those in—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1", "colnum": "878", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Did you say 'thank you'?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "ry and send them to me at the House. These documents ought to be available to every hon. Member, otherwise it is a complete farce to attempt to debate them. In all probability the only two copies of these Schedules in the Palace of Westminster are the ones in my possession and those in—[ Interruption. ]It is no privilege in the least I telephoned, I spoke to the private secretary of the President—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1", "colnum": "878", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Will you return them?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "lace of Westminster are the ones in my possession and those in—[ Interruption. ]It is no privilege in the least I telephoned, I spoke to the private secretary of the President—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Did you say 'thank you'?\"] Certainly. I have manners, which is more than some hon. Members have. I asked him for the courtesy of these documents, and he was good enough to be courteous, and I obtained them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1", "colnum": "878", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "[An HON. MEMBER: \"Will you return them?\"] Certainly. Not being a member of the Socialist Party I always return things I borrow. The point at issue is one of some substance. I discussed it before the proceedings started with the hon. and learned Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Bing), and suggested there might be some merit in this Order being postponed, and it cannot be postponed without his permission.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.880.3", "colnum": "880", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox Boyd", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox Boyd", "preceding_text": "ther to that point of order raised by my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon, East, is it in order for a Statutory Instrument to be presented to Parliament in which two essential schedules are linked neither of which is available to hon. Gentlemen? I agree that it would have been better had you had warning of this point of order, but it is not our fault that this Prayer is being taken at this hour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.880.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.882.4", "colnum": "882", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Mellor", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Mellor", "preceding_text": "I am afraid, Mr. Speaker, that I did not hear what you said owing to the noise which was coming from the other side of the House. Might I ask—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.882.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.882.4", "colnum": "882", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Mellor", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Mellor", "preceding_text": "I am afraid, Mr. Speaker, that I did not hear what you said owing to the noise which was coming from the other side of the House. Might I ask— [HON. MEMBERS:\"NO.\"] Might I have the opportunity—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.882.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.884.0", "colnum": "884", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman says he will merely go on reading what is in the Schedule. That is pure obstruction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.884.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.885.5", "colnum": "885", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "I second that.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. T. Williams", "preceding_text": "I move, \"That the hon. Member be no longer heard.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.885.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.886.3", "colnum": "886", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is the argument?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "nconsistency, because in both cases the cost of production must have risen. Yet in one case the price is unchanged; in the other, it goes from £8 to £9, an increase of roughly 12&#x00BD; per cent. These are matters about which I think we ought to have an answer in due course from a Minister who presumably enjoys the confidence of those who do not desire to hear the arguments of other hon. Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.886.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.888.3", "colnum": "888", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. I should have thought it could not be repetition, because the previous point was made on a different Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.888.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.890.0", "colnum": "890", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We all know there has.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "preceding_text": "It is only reasonable to ask that a reply should be given. So long as hon. Members who have been speaking on this Prayer are not ruled out of order it seems to me unfair to suggest that there has been a lot of nonsense.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.890.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.892.5", "colnum": "892", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Wing Commander Bullus", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Wing Commander Bullus", "preceding_text": "s) Order, 1951 (S.I. 1951, No 206), a copy of which was laid before this House on 8th February, be annulled. I apologise to you, Mr. Speaker, and to the House for rising to speak on two Orders in succession, but unfortunately one of my colleagues is absent and, as my name is second on the list, it falls to me to move the Motion. The Motion I am now proposing is on behalf of the harassed housewife—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.892.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.894.2", "colnum": "894", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Braine", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Vote\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Braine", "preceding_text": "ong enough, however, to observe that there seem to be too many of these Statutory Instruments affecting the daily lives of the citizens of this country which pass almost unnoticed. During the course of our debates this morning our temerity in putting down these interrogatory Prayers has been challenged. I offer no apology for putting down this particular Prayer, since it is the duty of Parliament—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.894.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.905.7", "colnum": "905", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Stuart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Stuart", "preceding_text": "I do not wish to raise a point of order which is not a point of order. I will not make any reference to the unattractive remarks which have been voiced from the other side of the House; but might I put it to you—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.905.7"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.906.1", "colnum": "906", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "preceding_text": "If it would place me in order, I will submit this as a point of order. I hope I shall not be interrupted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.906.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-08", "file": "debates1951-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "1f6f37336ef91e7f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.916.0", "colnum": "916", "heading": "ARMY ESTIMATES, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Smithers", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Smithers", "preceding_text": "I have stayed up to this early hour—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-08a.916.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-09", "file": "debates1951-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c2a3073ddcd3c08", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.987.1", "colnum": "987", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Spens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Spens", "preceding_text": "o instruct him now, although if we were speaking in some other place and in another capacity I would have the greatest pleasure in doing so. Desertion is a very grave matrimonial offence. I cannot get away from my own prejudice, which is, quite frankly, that we must have a principle, and a sound principle, behind our divorce laws. The alternative is divorce by consent, and that underlies the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.987.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-09", "file": "debates1951-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c2a3073ddcd3c08", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.994.1", "colnum": "994", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "I am trying to point out that this Bill makes that advantage available to every one and to every association.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.994.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-09", "file": "debates1951-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c2a3073ddcd3c08", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.994.1", "colnum": "994", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "I am trying to point out that this Bill makes that advantage available to every one and to every association. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Hon Members opposite say \"No,\" but this Bill abandons the last restriction on divorce. Let us get that quite clear. There is no point beyond this at which we can stop.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.994.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-09", "file": "debates1951-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c2a3073ddcd3c08", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.994.1", "colnum": "994", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": " to stop beyond this point? One hon. Gentleman who has spoken described this Bill as a natural extension of the 1937 Act, and the next Bill cutting down this period to some shorter time will be only a natural extension of this Bill. We are dealing today, not with the thin end of the wedge but the thick end of the wedge. This is the end of marriage. This Bill, in fact, is going to abolish marriage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.994.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-09", "file": "debates1951-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c2a3073ddcd3c08", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.1005.1", "colnum": "1005", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "any conditions upon hon. Members on either side of the House, whether they are sponsors of the Bill or supporters of the Amendment. If the House rejected the view which I have ventured to commend to it, that we should not seek to prejudice the inquiries by a Royal Commission, we should, of course, have to reconsider whether the establishment of a Royal Commission would serve such a useful purpose.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.1005.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-09", "file": "debates1951-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c2a3073ddcd3c08", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.1020.1", "colnum": "1020", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Two to one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "preceding_text": "Further to what my right hon. and learned Friend has said in response to the question of my hon. Friend the Member for Devonport (Mr. Foot), do I understand that the House of Commons, having voted by virtually three to one in favour of the Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.1020.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-09", "file": "debates1951-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c2a3073ddcd3c08", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.1020.1", "colnum": "1020", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "preceding_text": "Further to what my right hon. and learned Friend has said in response to the question of my hon. Friend the Member for Devonport (Mr. Foot), do I understand that the House of Commons, having voted by virtually three to one in favour of the Bill—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Two to one.\"] Shall we say then, two to one?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-09a.1020.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1036.7", "colnum": "1036", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "It is a good guess.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kirkwood", "preceding_text": "Arising from those supplementary questions, how do hon. Gentlemen happen to know that those engines which the Russians have are taken from the engines which we have sent to Russia?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1036.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1048.2", "colnum": "1048", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "Then anyone who works four-fifths of a week is entitled to two days' unemployment benefit?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1048.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1051.1", "colnum": "1051", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, 24s.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "preceding_text": "In regard to Question 30, is not the proposal there suggested one which is in the national interest, because the people will be employed and thus contribute towards their own benefits? Does the right hon. Lady realise, in relation to the other Questions, that the figure of 26s. first recommended by Lord Beveridge—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1051.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1102.4", "colnum": "1102", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Navy Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Act of 1859.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "It was not until last September that the gratuities scheme for men leaving after 10 years or more was extended to include a bounty of £100 to men who reengaged. The suggestion was made repeatedly from these benches by my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Chelsea (Commander Noble). As regards the 18 months' retention, presumably the legality of this rests on the 1939 Proclamation of Emergency.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1102.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1108.1", "colnum": "1108", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Navy Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A tot.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "preceding_text": "not touch the Navy. That is as true today as it has been for many years. It is also true that throughout its long history since the days of Alfred, with the possible exception of one occasion in the 17th century which I will not mention, the Navy has done all that has been asked of it by the British people. It is a great organisation. But an organisation, however good, needs continual refreshment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1108.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1117.1", "colnum": "1117", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Navy Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "dyke extends 3,000 miles across the Atlantic to America. The Tory Party and the Tory Press campaign about the naval position and the Navy Estimates which we are considering is not one about the money provided, nor the ships nor the men, nor even the Admirals, which matter we are to debate on another occasion so that I will not deal with it now. The present Tory Campaign is purely blatant politics.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1117.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1118.1", "colnum": "1118", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Navy Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "to build up fictitious pictures of Russian naval strength. Moreover, there is no justification for trying to lead the British people to think that in the event of war—which we on this side think is not inevitable—Russia could achieve any major success at sea, because that would be quite impossible. What are the facts of the naval situation today? I will deal with the Russian submarines separately—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1118.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1118.1", "colnum": "1118", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Navy Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Ask the Parliamentary Secretary.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "hieve any major success at sea, because that would be quite impossible. What are the facts of the naval situation today? I will deal with the Russian submarines separately—[ Laughter ]—I will deal with the Russian submarines separately. I have challenged hon. and gallant Members opposite time after time to say where those submarines are, but they will not answer, I will deal with them in a moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1118.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1118.1", "colnum": "1118", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Navy Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "our only potential enemy than at any time in our long maritime history. If the Opposition agree with me I will not put forward any more points to convince them, but I can guarantee that I have got the necessary points. I have the 1939 documents from which to quote if I am challenged, so I do not intend to stand any nonsense from the Opposition. I now turn to the question of the Russian submarines—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1118.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1122.1", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Navy Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the British Legion?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "ecretary. But I do not take any objection to them; this is a free place. It was perfectly obvious that he was just out to trip up my hon. Friend on certain things in order to try to score political points. If there is any question of putting ideas into Stalin's head he has had innumerable ideas put into it by the Tory Party and their spokesman on naval affairs, the Navy League, and the Tory Press—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1122.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1122.1", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Navy Estimates, 1951&#x2013;52", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "e today is better paid than it has ever been in its long history. As regards pilots, of which there is a shortage, the Parliamentary Secretary gave an example. A married pilot of 25, on flying duty, receives £980. I do not begrudge him a penny of it, but let the Tories say whenever they were near that figure. Never in their long history. I will content myself with having fired the first broadcast—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1122.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1177.1", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "id: And, finally, running through it all, I censure the lack of policy and comprehension which in this as in other spheres, has led our country down to levels of inefficiency which we have never plumbed before.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 8th March, 1948; Vol. 448, c. 834&#x2013;5.] The right hon. Gentleman says that it has been the Government which has been responsible for hiding our might under a bushel.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1177.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1179.0", "colnum": "1179", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "That is true.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "formation given to the public, which is the only point of criticism which the right hon. Gentleman had against the Admiralty: I must make an exception in the case of the Admiralty, which now in a later statement in the Navy Estimates has produced some information incidental to our naval strength, or perhaps I ought to say to our naval weakness.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 1st March, 1948; Vol. 448, c. 61.]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1177.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1198.0", "colnum": "1198", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "preceding_text": "rol, it is necessary that the Navy—if I may so speak in the presence of so many naval gentlemen-should have the admirals who understand something about aircraft. This is a problem the solution of which I do not know. The American Navy had the great advantage—and this is one argument for the Navy's having land-based aircraft—of having admirals brought up with a wide field of experience in aviation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1198.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1240.1", "colnum": "1240", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Smithers", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Smithers", "preceding_text": "eve that we are speaking of standing in the dark shadows of some far off dockside doing a little snooping. Anybody who has had anything to do with naval intelligence will know that that is not accurate. The collection is not all done by the Navy. But assessment and interpretation are very complex and important problems which must be solved by the Navy. We are undoubtedly facing a submarine menace.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1240.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1247.1", "colnum": "1247", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "preceding_text": "I am 'about to explain to hon. Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1247.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1247.2", "colnum": "1247", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "preceding_text": "I am 'about to explain to hon. Members. [ Laughter. ]I am quite serious on this matter. I do not raise it facetiously. I have a number of unmarried mothers in my constituency and they are in a very bad way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1247.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-12", "file": "debates1951-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "39db8ca7451d860f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1247.4", "colnum": "1247", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Unmarried mothers cannot possibly come into the Navy Estimates. Surely the hon. and gallant Gentleman is father making a reflection both on the Royal Navy and on the ladies of Portsmouth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-12a.1247.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1297.3", "colnum": "1297", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "I have had, as I think you will agree, Mr. Speaker, no notice at all of the statement you have made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1297.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1297.3", "colnum": "1297", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "In regard to my own action, and to the time at which it was taken, I brought the matter to the attention of you, Sir, and under your direction, to that of the House on the first occasion on which I had the opportunity of so doing. I was not influenced by—nor, until yesterday, did I have any knowledge that there had been—any newspaper which knew of the matter or which had commented upon the matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1297.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1301.5", "colnum": "1301", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "We are on a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1301.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1302.7", "colnum": "1302", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I submit to you, Mr. Speaker, that, even if the House were to accept this extremely surprising Ruling—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1302.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1303.1", "colnum": "1303", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "My right hon. Friend will bear in mind that no question had arisen of Mr. Speaker changing the Ruling which he had already given, except that he would consider whether he could convert it into the positive form.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1303.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1303.2", "colnum": "1303", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": " has been established—does not withdraw the matter from the consideration of the House. All that it does is to deprive it of the priority that it enjoys if both those conditions are fulfilled, and it is open to any hon. Member to take such action as he thinks fit to bring it before the House. I suggest that it would be in accordance with the dignity of the House and the harmony of our proceedings—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1303.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1305.1", "colnum": "1305", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "I take my position as Leader of the House as not identifying me in that position with either party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1305.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1306.1", "colnum": "1306", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "As this matter seems to be about to pass away from the House for the moment until some further action is taken in the matter, ought we not to have a personal statement from the hon. Member for Sevenoaks—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1306.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1306.2", "colnum": "1306", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ought we not to have a personal statement from the hon. Member for Sevenoaks—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—whose conduct has been called in question and who has been impugned from various quarters and has not been given that right, a right I have never known to be denied to any Member with very much less provocation—the right to make a personal statement? I submit that this right should not now be denied.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1306.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1306.4", "colnum": "1306", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "It is for the House—I cannot accept it or deny it. If the House wishes the hon. Member to make a statement, then by all means let him make a statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1306.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1307.4", "colnum": "1307", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "May I recur to the point that the hon. Member for Seven-oaks, who has been reflected upon, shall have an opportunity, here and now, to make a personal explanation to the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1307.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1308.1", "colnum": "1308", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I am really trying to make peace over this matter. The hon. Member for Sevenoaks has the right to make a personal statement if he wishes, which is one of the rights of Private Members. I hope myself that the House will willingly agree to let him say what he has to say, which might even help the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1308.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1308.2", "colnum": "1308", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Rodgers", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Rodgers", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to you—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1308.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1308.3", "colnum": "1308", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Why did you no; speak last Thursday?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Rodgers", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to you—[ Interruption. ]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1308.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1308.5", "colnum": "1308", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rodgers", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to you, Mr. Speaker, and to the House for allowing me——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1308.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1309.0", "colnum": "1309", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "On a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1309.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1311.6", "colnum": "1311", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rodgers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rodgers", "preceding_text": "cese. Perhaps I may be permitted to point out that a Bishop's relationship with one of his vicars is not that of employer and employee. The Bishop has no authority either to cause a clergyman to resign or submit to discipline, and, therefore, there is no possible question of victimisation. In forwarding this letter to the Bishop for his comments I acted with the welfare of my constituents in mind—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1311.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1312.1", "colnum": "1312", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Gag.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I understood that the hon. Member for Sevenoaks was making a personal explanation, with the leave of the House. What is the status of the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. S. Silverman) in intervening now?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1312.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1312.5", "colnum": "1312", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Am I right, Sir, in my recollection that personal statements should not be controversial?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1312.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1336.0", "colnum": "1336", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Since those gentlemen do not sit in this House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1336.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1336.2", "colnum": "1336", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "But not in this House—I suggest that the honest thing for the hon. Member for Newbury to do is to make the statement outside.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1336.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1337.3", "colnum": "1337", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Oh, I see. The present Chairman is not a Socialist. Is the hon. Member suggesting that the politics of the Chairman shape the relations between the Corporation and the Secretary of State? It shows how absurd it is. The hon. Gentleman is running away from what he has said. The hon. Member for the Isle of Wight (Sir P. Macdonald)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1337.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1339.1", "colnum": "1339", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": " in passing the Act; and, therefore, the responsibility of the Secretary of State and the Colonial Office has been that of the general policy, and the Board has been responsible for the detailed investigation, formulation and carrying out their scheme. That is the relationship which has been established. In view of this attack, which is an attack upon the Government, because we see this afternoon—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1339.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1340.1", "colnum": "1340", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Let me make this perfectly clear. All the information on the Corporation's schemes given by Ministers in this House is received from the Corporation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1340.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1346.1", "colnum": "1346", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "ory of the scheme. The question has been asked whether this scheme should have been launched in this way, or whether it would have been better and more desirable to have launched a pilot scheme. That is the problem. I shall come back to the question of the relationships in a moment. It is important for us to consider who should decide whether there should be a pilot scheme or not. Is it the Board?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1346.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1350.1", "colnum": "1350", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "I thought I had replied to the hon. Gentleman. I do not know what has happened in that respect, and, in any case, it is not a matter for me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1350.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1359.0", "colnum": "1359", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Johnson", "preceding_text": "heme. This is no groundnut scheme. There are real, intrinsic possibilities of developing large-scale poultry farming. I understand that the climate for about half the year is good, and although I see that the Report for 1948 says that it is not suitable for Europeans, I am still convinced of the possibilities of this project. I believe the soil is fertile. I understand the rainfall is sufficient\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1358.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1364.7", "colnum": "1364", "heading": "GAMBIA POULTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "preceding_text": " a number of the hon. Gentleman's question. I would in the few minutes available to me like to make one point clear. The whole of this debate on the part of Opposition Members has been designed to cast blame on one man alone—upon the late Chairman of the Corporation, Lord Trefgarne. That has been done deliberately, because hon. Members opposite know that he previously belonged to the Labour Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1364.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1381.1", "colnum": "1381", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blyton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blyton", "preceding_text": "rned will lead to an amicable settlement of the points at issue. May I first express the sorrow of my hon. Friends who represent Durham constituencies at the death of Colonel Vickery? Although he has been a formidable opponent of ours, we are sorry to learn that he has passed away. I should like on behalf of hon. Members on these benches to express our deepest sympathy with his widow and daughter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1381.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1383.12", "colnum": "1383", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blyton", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blyton", "preceding_text": "employment for those miners who cannot be re-absorbed; further, this House deplores the action of those employers in the industry who, in the re-engagement of men, are discriminating against active trade unionists. The right hon. Member for Woodford was Chancellor of the Exchequer in the Government of that time. What was the evidence of Lord Lawson, who was M.P. for Chester-le-Street at that time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1383.12"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1386.5", "colnum": "1386", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about the doctors?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lindgren", "preceding_text": "Ask the hon. and learned Member for Ilford, North (Mr. Hutchinson).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1386.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1390.3", "colnum": "1390", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cove", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not the point.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cove", "preceding_text": "r. I am quite certain that his opinion and his weight will be used to find an amicable solution. My right hon. Friend cannot interfere at this moment. If he did, I am quite sure that I and others would resist such interference. He has to wait and see what the result of that might be. He must not dare to interfere and to say that teachers in Durham must not belong or must belong to an organisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1390.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1391.1", "colnum": "1391", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cove", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw the Amendment.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cove", "preceding_text": "Let it go—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1391.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1391.3", "colnum": "1391", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Cuthbert Headlam", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Cuthbert Headlam", "preceding_text": "e Durham County Council are the most politically-minded body that ever existed, and it is a most interesting body upon which to serve for one who is not of the dominant party. In the County Council there is really only a single party, which decides what the policy of the party is to be in the county, not so much in the Chamber of the Council but in the miners' hall. I was always amused by the way—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1391.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1391.3", "colnum": "1391", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Cuthbert Headlam", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Cuthbert Headlam", "preceding_text": "was framed in this way, because it would enormously strengthen the position of the Government, if the policy which they said they were going to emphasise is to be carried out, should they have a united House of Commons behind them rather than one side of the House. Therefore, I hope very much that the Government will accept the Motion which, honestly, I do not believe is put up for party purposes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1391.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1393.1", "colnum": "1393", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Herbert Batter", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Herbert Batter", "preceding_text": "ovement. It has always been a source of pride to those of us who have worked in the movement that our activities have been concentrated on raising the standard of life of our people and, incidentally, by raising their standard, raising the standard of the majority of people in the community. It has to be remembered that the trade union movement of this country comprises the bulk of the population.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1393.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1401.1", "colnum": "1401", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Cooper", "preceding_text": "ntion to matters arising from this problem which so far have not been discussed in the debate. I should like to say at the outset that I read carefully the speeches of the Adjournment debate of 15th November. It seems to me that if the Motion were carried it would be understood in the country that the Government were opposed to any local authority using compulsion to create trade union membership.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1401.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1402.1", "colnum": "1402", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "difficulties, and I want to tell the House about them. The aim of all trade unions is to get 100 per cent. trade union membership. No one objects to that. I say—and I am quite sure that no sensible person would disagree with it—that the type of membership a trade union wants is an enlightened, convinced membership of people who know why they are in membership, and on a voluntary basis if possible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1402.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1407.1", "colnum": "1407", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Education (Mr. Tomlin-son)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Education (Mr. Tomlin-son)", "preceding_text": " put down purely for the purpose of assisting the Government. I do not think that we should either \"kid\" one another or \"kid\" ourselves. Had the Motion been put down in the right hon. Lady's name, supported by the eminent hon. Member for Luton (Dr. Hill), who is to reply, maybe I would have accepted that view. When we notice the names of Mr. Churchill, Mr. Eden, Mr. Butler, Sir David Maxwell Fyfe—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1407.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1407.1", "colnum": "1407", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Education (Mr. Tomlin-son)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What does that mean?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Education (Mr. Tomlin-son)", "preceding_text": "I am reading from the Order Paper, which I understand is quite in order—including also the Members to whom I have referred, I think it will be realised that it has been put down by the Conservative Party. If the suggestion is being made that all that is wanted is to reiterate what has been said before, then it seems to me that the old idea of getting an elephant to crack a nut is well out of date.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1407.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1410.0", "colnum": "1410", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "What is it all about?", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Education (Mr. Tomlin-son)", "preceding_text": "employing authority. If the authority were to persist in the line of action proposed they might find themselves, as a result, unable to discharge their statutory obligations. Then I repeat: I could not remain indifferent to this threat to the educational service and, if need be, I should use the powers which the Act gives me to prevent it.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 23rd November, 1950; Vol. 481, c. 69. ]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1407.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1415.5", "colnum": "1415", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "I am not going to be diverted in my argument. The point I wish to make is that although—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1415.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1415.8", "colnum": "1415", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "preceding_text": "ittees have been set up—and I believe also there are medical committees—under pressure from the doctors and dentists, elected by the professions, and that the Ministry—again, under sanction from the medical and dental professions—have made a forcible levy on every practising dentist? I myself have to pay a levy on my monthly cheque to these local dental committees. They publish a monthly circular—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1415.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1417.3", "colnum": "1417", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "No, I cannot give way. I know the hon. Member too well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1417.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1418.2", "colnum": "1418", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Warrington (Dr. Morgan) was for some time one of my masters, but never, I am glad to say, one of my teachers. This letter is from someone who describes himself—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1418.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1418.2", "colnum": "1418", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A Tory trade union.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Warrington (Dr. Morgan) was for some time one of my masters, but never, I am glad to say, one of my teachers. This letter is from someone who describes himself—[ Interruption ]—no, not as a Tory, but as the President of the Durham Branch of the Amalgamated Engineering Society.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1418.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1421.1", "colnum": "1421", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Non-party&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "ore they were ever heard of; and there is one, in particular, mentioned in an early page of the document—\"Every man has the freedom to work.\" Why were they not honest, and why did not they add, \"Unless you are a Plymouth brother?\" Why did they not add, \"Unless you are an employee of the Durham County Council who will not produce his card?\" The reason is that the Government are having it both ways.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1421.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1422.4", "colnum": "1422", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Morgan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Morgan", "preceding_text": "I rise to join issue—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1422.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1422.4", "colnum": "1422", "heading": "DURHAM COUNTY COUNCIL STAFF (UNION MEMBERSHIP)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Morgan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Morgan", "preceding_text": "I rise to join issue—[ Interruption. ]—I want, if possible, to join in this debate. I have not spoken in the House for months. The hon. Member for Luton (Dr. Hill) has treated us to a histrionic exhibition which is quite common to him, as those who know him understand.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1422.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1445.1", "colnum": "1445", "heading": "BISHOPS (RETIREMENT) MEASURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "I do not wish to delay the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1445.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1446.1", "colnum": "1446", "heading": "BISHOPS (RETIREMENT) MEASURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iain MacLeod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iain MacLeod", "preceding_text": "make a contribution to the debate, but he returned very soon to his usual task of muddying the waters. I will make one remark only on his speech, and I know that it will be echoed by many hon. Members on the other side: I think it contemptible that people who have neither interest nor affection for the Church of England should use an opportunity such as this for pursuing their private witch hunts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1446.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1447.2", "colnum": "1447", "heading": "BISHOPS (RETIREMENT) MEASURE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "preceding_text": "I propose, subject to——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1447.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1451.1", "colnum": "1451", "heading": "BISHOPS (RETIREMENT) MEASURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not all of them.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "hat head. Where I think there is an innovation in this Measure—and I am not really concerned at the moment to express an opinion whether I agree with it, because I think it is primarily a matter for the Church authorities themselves—is that I think we have to remember that the bishops of the Church of England, or at any rate a great many of them, are by law established as Members of another place.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1451.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1466.1", "colnum": "1466", "heading": "TUBERCULOSIS NURSES (INDUSTRIAL INJURIES SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "preceding_text": "That is the logical conclusion of the Trades Union Congress arguments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1466.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1469.1", "colnum": "1469", "heading": "TUBERCULOSIS NURSES (INDUSTRIAL INJURIES SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": "I see the hon. Member's point. I have long grasped it and I am coming to that in the second part of my remarks, in which I propose to demonstrate that these Regulations do not cover nurses in general hospitals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1469.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1471.3", "colnum": "1471", "heading": "TUBERCULOSIS NURSES (INDUSTRIAL INJURIES SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": "I was about to address myself, Mr. Speaker, to exactly that point which I think is of great importance since, if I am right in thinking that the Regulations do not cover nurses in general hospitals—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1471.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1483.1", "colnum": "1483", "heading": "TUBERCULOSIS NURSES (INDUSTRIAL INJURIES SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "preceding_text": "tening effect on potential entrants to nursing or their parents. If one puts forward a case which is supported by something like half the medical profession it is no good hon. Members opposite shouting \"Nonsense.\" I say, finally, that I am bitterly disappointed that the Parliamentary Secretary should not have treated this most important subject with the consideration that, in my view, it deserves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1483.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1483.1", "colnum": "1483", "heading": "TUBERCULOSIS NURSES (INDUSTRIAL INJURIES SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "preceding_text": " am bitterly disappointed that the Parliamentary Secretary should not have treated this most important subject with the consideration that, in my view, it deserves. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"] On this point of dividing, I told the Minister in a personal letter I wrote to her a fortnight ago, when I raised this point, that I thought it undesirable that this subject should be made a point of Division.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1483.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1484.1", "colnum": "1484", "heading": "TUBERCULOSIS NURSES (INDUSTRIAL INJURIES SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "That is not a word we may use of hon. Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1484.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1484.2", "colnum": "1484", "heading": "TUBERCULOSIS NURSES (INDUSTRIAL INJURIES SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "Let hon. Members give me a chance to do so. Under your instruction, Mr. Speaker, of course I withdraw. But last week we had seven Prayers, and they were a travesty of democracy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1484.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1488.1", "colnum": "1488", "heading": "UTILITY PRAM RUGS ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Renton", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Thank you very much.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Renton", "preceding_text": " Trade and to his Parliamentary Secretary, who I understood would probably be answering the Prayer, but I did not happen to see him. I did not know that the President of the Board of Trade would be intervening in this debate at all because the Order against which I am praying is in fact signed by the Parliamentary Secretary. I regret any inconvenience I may have caused to the right hon. Gentleman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1488.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1489.4", "colnum": "1489", "heading": "UTILITY PRAM RUGS ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "he hon. Member has asked whether any latitude can be given as to whether a Prayer should be put down on one day or another. That is an awkward question. My impression is that one puts down a Prayer for a certain night, but the Government have charge of business, and if that is an inconvenient night I believe they have the power to say, \"We cannot give you tomorrow. We will give you the day after.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1489.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1499.1", "colnum": "1499", "heading": "GAS (CONVERSION DATE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. S. Taylor", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. S. Taylor", "preceding_text": "I beg to second the Motion. I think we all owe a great debt of gratitude to my hon. and gallant Friend for raising this matter tonight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1499.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1499.1", "colnum": "1499", "heading": "GAS (CONVERSION DATE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. S. Taylor", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, no.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. S. Taylor", "preceding_text": "end for raising this matter tonight. [ Interruption. ] An hon. Member asks me to take my hand out of my pocket. I would certainly do so if hon. Members opposite would stop interrupting for five minutes. As I said, I think my hon. and gallant Friend deserves every credit for raising this matter tonight, because the shareholders of these concerns which have been taken over are not great capitalists.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1499.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-13", "file": "debates1951-03-13a.xml", "sha256": "665b163c63e4ab0b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1501.3", "colnum": "1501", "heading": "GAS (CONVERSION DATE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": "rst, how he could reconcile one date being the most convenient for a whole number of securities. That obviously cannot be so unless it is by accident. That brings me to the second point—he has not explained why it is the most convenient, and I think he has treated the House a little cavalierly in just coming down here and saying this is the most convenient date. Why is it the most convenient date?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-13a.1501.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1531.2", "colnum": "1531", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ROYAL AIR FORCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "preceding_text": "Whether they come from Jamaica, or any other part of the British Commonwealth, they have to make their own way here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1531.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1539.2", "colnum": "1539", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harrison", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, will you inform the House whether we are still on Question Time, because it seems to me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1539.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1539.4", "colnum": "1539", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not a question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I will continue. They are further forbidden, without first obtaining Admiralty permission, to deliver publicly or broadcast any lecture or read any paper on such subjects, or, in any published speech dealing with such subjects\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1539.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1539.8", "colnum": "1539", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "On a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1539.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1540.5", "colnum": "1540", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "It says: no officer or soldier or member of Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Service is permitted to take any active part.&#x2026; It is a regulation which covers the three Services.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1540.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1541.5", "colnum": "1541", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "As regards the alleged contradiction in King's Regulations, I must not be held to be responsible for King's Regulations as a whole.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1541.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1542.0", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Does the right hon. Gentleman repudiate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1542.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1542.9", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir; it seems to be the only way one is allowed to speak in this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1542.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1542.11", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Is it not a very insulting charge for the Minister of Defence to make, that I should have adopted—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1542.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1543.5", "colnum": "1543", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. This Question was put down by a Tory back bencher, and immediately the Question was answered by the Minister of Defence the Leader of the Opposition barged to the Despatch Box—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1543.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1544.5", "colnum": "1544", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "In my judgment we have had enough questions on this subject.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1544.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1547.0", "colnum": "1547", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "' We will make them sit up day and night and grind away until they get absolutely hysterical'\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1546.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1574.5", "colnum": "1574", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (SUPPLIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "preceding_text": "ct, assist my right hon. Friends in their negotiations. The hon. Member for Woking (Mr. Watkinson) said how easy it is to job backwards. During the speech made by the hon. Member for Chippenham (Mr. Eccles) I thought how much easier it is to have hindsight than foresight. After all, the decisions which the Government had to make, the number of choices open to them 12 months ago, were very limited.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1574.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1611.3", "colnum": "1611", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RAW MATERIAL RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I am taking the report from a responsible trade paper, in which the Minister is urging industry to use more rayon which he himself knew was not available. Certain sections of the trade have asked me to say this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1611.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1626.3", "colnum": "1626", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SHEFFIELD EXTENSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGhee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGhee", "preceding_text": "ng purposes or is fully developed. It means, to put it in round figures, that they are taking in 6,000 to get 2,000. I am prepared to say, after living in Sheffield for 25 years and having heard the views of an expert who has examined the available land in the city within the last few weeks, not as the Ministry of Local Government and Planning did, taking the word of the Sheffield City town clerk—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1626.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1627.3", "colnum": "1627", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SHEFFIELD EXTENSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGhee", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGhee", "preceding_text": "eryone's anxiety. These areas are in the west end of the city, and the people who live there do not want council houses nearby. They are prepared to live and to thrive on the working classes, but they will not live beside them. Another reason is this. The great hereditary landlords in the City of Sheffield, after the passing of the Town and Country Planning Act, which has not been very successful—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1627.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1630.2", "colnum": "1630", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SHEFFIELD EXTENSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGhee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGhee", "preceding_text": "Taylor), well knows. Our roads, for instance, in times of snow, are properly cleared. When one comes out of the Wortley or Chesterfield rural area into the City of Sheffield it is like coming into Switzerland after a series of avalanches, because the roads within the city are so bad. For all these great added services the present ratepayers are to be asked to pay on the average 2s. in the £ extra.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1630.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1631.1", "colnum": "1631", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SHEFFIELD EXTENSION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGhee", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Has he brought any' reindeer?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGhee", "preceding_text": "fort was made by that Ministry to consult the other interests affected? Why could not the Ministry officials consult with the officials of the Wortley Council and give them some ideas? The whole thing has been wrapped in a cloud of mystery and the town clerk of Sheffield has come down disguised as Father Christmas so that nobody would know that he was intriguing with the officials of the Ministry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1631.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1662.1", "colnum": "1662", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER:\"Too much.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "preceding_text": "ure which I have mentioned. What is to happen to the stocks which at present are in the hands of the trade? No doubt hon. Members opposite will regard the first-hand distributor as a wicked middle man of some sort, but, in fact, he distributes for the Minister, so I am told, at a fee or remuneration of 1s. 6d. a case, which again, if my mathematics are right, is about one-fifth of a penny per can.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1662.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1662.1", "colnum": "1662", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Stockpiling.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "preceding_text": "r than 11 million cans are still unsold. Of those, four and a half million are Dutch brisling and six and a half million are Danish brisling. Before it passes this Order the House would like to know how much was paid for that Danish brisling, how much was paid for the Dutch brisling and how great will be the loss sustained as a result of reducing the price from one shilling to 7&#x00BD;d. per can.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1662.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1674.1", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": " and then asked the questions. His comment was that this was a melancholy chapter, and that in the matter of canned fish all the Ministry of Food could show was a miserable story. But is it? These are the figures. In the financial year ending March, 1950, on sales of canned fish amounting to about £10 million the Ministry showed a profit of £820,000. I am going to deal with this thing in a moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1674.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1675.1", "colnum": "1675", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": " to annul an Order. Through the mover of the Motion, they have expressed a point of view about the Order. Let them have the courage to divide and go into the Lobby to oppose a price decrease. This is the position about brisling. It is not that we face a prospective loss of £200,000 but that if we carry this Order, enforce it, implement it, we shall have a modest profit on our dealings in brisling.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1675.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1676.7", "colnum": "1676", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not at this price.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "ed by the Opposition. What do they want us to do? Do they want us to continue to sell them at Is? If they want us to do that, obviously they want to prejudice the housewife. But it is worse than that, because obviously they want to prejudice the trade, since the trade are anxious that we should dispose of our stocks at the earliest opportunity. They will probably be wanting to buy again in August—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1676.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1678.1", "colnum": "1678", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: What about stocks?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "Of course, hon. Members opposite do not like it. As far as that side of the trade is concerned, we have not made any allocation to them for about the last four months, and there has been a sharp run-down in the supplies to the trade. I can give a few figures to illustrate this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1678.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1679.2", "colnum": "1679", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Three million\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "ter, acting as a sound businessman, says \"I must get rid of the stocks so I will lower the price.\" The House is entitled to know what are the stocks. He will have to tell us. What did he pay for the stocks? What are they worth now? He says he will make a modest profit: what is it? He must have made some estimate. We were told that the Government were going to plant two million acres of ground nuts", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1679.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1682.0", "colnum": "1682", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Divide&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "ut, as part of the effect of the Order upon local fishermen, in this country and in Scotland, that they cannot get the tin to can their fish. It seems odd that we should be bringing in foreign tinned fish in greater quantities. These are pertinent questions of tremendous importance to the men engaged in the industry, and I feel that we need a much fuller reply from the Government than we have had.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1681.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1682.4", "colnum": "1682", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Miss Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"' My canning industry'?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Ward", "preceding_text": "I have made my point, so I will not pursue that subject. I want to make it quite plain why I am intervening in this debate tonight. I am intervening in the interests of my fishermen, my canners, the people employed in my canning industry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1682.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1686.0", "colnum": "1686", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; IMPORTED CANNED FISH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Divide&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. R. Howard", "preceding_text": "nformation as to how the retailers are to be recompensed for the losses they will incur, because he has not told us the amount of stocks of these brisling? He has not indicated what the losses of these retailers will be, if and when these fish are sold. With these few remarks I very much hope that the Parliamentary Secretary will be able to elaborate a little more than what he has already told us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1685.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1700.1", "colnum": "1700", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Lieut-Commander Braithwaite", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut-Commander Braithwaite", "preceding_text": " this House we were delighted to see, the distinguished son of a distinguished father, has made an intervention that I value. It was made with friendly intention. But I realise that it is the duty of hon. Members to address you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, when we are called by the Chair, rather than our hon. Friends below the Gangway. Perhaps my hon. Friend would study the OFFICIAL REPORT in the morning.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1700.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1703.6", "colnum": "1703", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Swindle.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman will recall that the point was not that vegetable oil is used in sausages, as it has been for many years, but that in an Order which seeks to tell the public what is the percentage proportion of meat, vegetable oil is deemed to be meat for the purposes of that proportion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1703.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1704.1", "colnum": "1704", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "I have answered the point, I now want to deal with the history of the Order. On 16th February, the Committee of the Sausage Manufacturers' Federation approached the Ministry and asked whether they could have permission to restore their pre-war practice—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1704.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1705.1", "colnum": "1705", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "That is the position. The trade asked us to restore the pre-war practice. We could not maintain that milk powder was in short supply. So far as milk is concerned, we can now say that although the demand is much greater than ever before, supply has matched that demand. What, then are we to do to the meat traders? Are we to say that because we have a silly foolish Opposition in the House of Commons—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1705.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1705.3", "colnum": "1705", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Shortage of meat.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman said something about it being difficult to discuss the matter with the trade. What is the difficulty?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1705.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1706.4", "colnum": "1706", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "Perhaps I may help the hon. Member. I explained that this was an article which appeared in the Meat Traders' Journal after the Order was made, so that \"normal meat content\" in this article means the present meat content as prescribed by the Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1706.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1706.8", "colnum": "1706", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "As I was saying when I was so rudely interrupted by a Government Whip, who evidently has not been in the House long enough to learn a few manners —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1706.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1706.8", "colnum": "1706", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He does not know. \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "ng enough to learn a few manners — [ Interruption ] — the Parliamentary Secretary is evidently extremely disingenuous in his explanation. He now says that it is the \"present\" meat content to which he refers. Does he mean the meat content before the making of this Statutory Instrument or after it? Does he mean a meat content based on 65 per cent. of pork, or on a 55 per cent. only, content of pork?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1706.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1714.0", "colnum": "1714", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Watkinson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Watkinson", "preceding_text": "ember for Luton (Dr. Hill) may say later on, I am not prepared to accept that. It does not alter in the slightest degree the reason for which I rose—to make the point that the Parliamentary Secretary has not refuted. The party on this side of the House has done a very great service to the public in raising this matter, because they have shown that there are no constituents going into the sausages—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1714.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1717.1", "colnum": "1717", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Carr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shakespeare.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Carr", "preceding_text": "much meat when they are not, it is our duty to bring forward this point and give publicity to it, otherwise this would have slipped through with practically no notice being taken of it. I cannot help comparing this with the publicity given to the \"Webb Sausage,\" this great and wonderful sausage, this magnificent ghost, this blithe spirit which passed through our larders and left not a sign behind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1717.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-14", "file": "debates1951-03-14a.xml", "sha256": "936960cda1e8b4fe", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1721.1", "colnum": "1721", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SAUSAGES (MEAT CONTENT)", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "ble. But my point still remains. It is important that people should know that some sausages are to have milk powder in them, and some are not. What I do feel strongly about is that the housewife should be able to know if the sausages she buys are of the one sort or the other. That point ought to be considered. I know that the Parliamentary Secretary has said that the nutritional value is the same.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-14a.1721.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1737.7", "colnum": "1737", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member did not ask about the deterioration. He asked why the number of rejections is greater than it was in 1939. Clearly, when the number of donors is very much greater it naturally follows that the number of rejections is greater.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1737.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1768.5", "colnum": "1768", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EGYPT (STERLING BALANCES AGREEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "Will the Foreign Secretary or the Leader of the House tell us when there has ever been a financial agreement between two governments which has had no political implications; and when this country has strong claims against Egypt that have cost us millions—the treatment of our traffic through the Canal—cannot we make that a sine qua non before we give them any financial facilities at all?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1768.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1769.3", "colnum": "1769", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EGYPT (STERLING BALANCES AGREEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "rose ——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1769.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1769.8", "colnum": "1769", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EGYPT (STERLING BALANCES AGREEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "The Financial Secretary has made it plain that part of this arrangement is that Egypt is to buy oil, presumably from some source over which we have control. How can an arrangement be made that Egypt shall be supplied with oil from our sources when Egypt refuses to allow our own traffic to go through the Suez Canal?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1769.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1770.3", "colnum": "1770", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EGYPT (STERLING BALANCES AGREEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "The last request I made to the right hon. Gentleman was, I think, a perfectly reasonable one. I only asked the Government for an assurance that this arrangement with political implications will not be put into force without the House having an opportunity of examining it. I repeat—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1770.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1771.0", "colnum": "1771", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EGYPT (STERLING BALANCES AGREEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I will look into the matter but I cannot—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1771.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1775.4", "colnum": "1775", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I understand from what has been said earlier this afternoon that the Leader of the House is going to make a statement on behalf of the Foreign Secretary, or that the Foreign Secretary will make a statement, this afternoon on the question of the agreement which, we have heard today, has been made with Egypt.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1775.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1778.0", "colnum": "1778", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Is this Motion not a Motion to reverse the decision—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1778.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1814.1", "colnum": "1814", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about 1939?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": "possibly others in the country who might be misled by what has been said today, perhaps I may give some of the figures of the increased stockpiles of food which exist in this country by comparison with 1939 or, rather, by comparison with the time when we began the agricultural expansion programme. Between June, 1947, and June, 1950, the number of cattle in this country increased by over a million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1814.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1819.0", "colnum": "1819", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. York", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. York", "preceding_text": "If I am wrong, I apologise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1819.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1819.5", "colnum": "1819", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. York", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. York", "preceding_text": "I was saying—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1819.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1819.5", "colnum": "1819", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. York", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. York", "preceding_text": "I was saying—[ Interruption. ]It is impossible for me to answer the hon. Member for Devonport, while the inmates of his own kennel make so much noise. I think I had better proceed with one or two other remarks. I was only prefacing what I was going to say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1819.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1820.0", "colnum": "1820", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Hon Members", "cue_text": "Oh&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. York", "preceding_text": " is entirely wrong in his history of the Government's efforts in stockpiling on the farms. In fact, agricultural production fell in this country in 1945 and in 1946, and the reason why the panic effort was made by the Government in 1946 and 1947 had nothing whatever to do with stockpiling: it was entirely because this country faced starvation owing to lack of ability on the part of the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1819.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1820.2", "colnum": "1820", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. York", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. York", "preceding_text": "There was undoubtedly a change of emphasis in the industry. I agree about that. I think the hon. Gentleman agrees.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1820.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1820.4", "colnum": "1820", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. York", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. York", "preceding_text": "It was not the Caretaker Government. The change of emphasis took place, in fact, in 1945.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1820.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1820.8", "colnum": "1820", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. York", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. York", "preceding_text": "That was not a useful intervention. The leaders of the hon. Member's party were responsible for the decision taken in February, 1945. That is a fact. If I may proceed with the tenor of my argument—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1820.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1851.1", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EMERGENCY FOOD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "I will not deal with it, to the hon. Member's satisfaction, because it is not necessary—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1859.3", "colnum": "1859", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURE (PETROL AND FERTILISERS)", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture (Mr. George Brown)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The right road?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": " dealing with it on a long-term basis is to merge it in the price review, and to deal with it in that way. Therefore, we are not departing from the view we held then. We had to hold the position for a time while we examined the whole field. We have done that, and I am very glad we are carrying hon. Members opposite with us, because it is so good for them to be carried with us along the right road.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1859.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1859.3", "colnum": "1859", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AGRICULTURE (PETROL AND FERTILISERS)", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture (Mr. George Brown)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. Member for Guildford.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "ously our position is that in this industry and in this Department, as in any other, we have to bear some part of the unpleasant necessity of helping to find some of the money to pay for that. What we have tried to do here is to seek to make economies where they will do least harm and where, on the whole, the good has already been done. The hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. Hurd) asked one short point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1859.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1894.1", "colnum": "1894", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, no.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "he taxation of profits of non-residents from the business of insurance. I should like to know exactly what are the provisions referred to. What is the effect of that reservation? It is a reservation of some importance to those carrying on business in the country. There is another point which I want to put. I hope the hon. Member will not think that I am asking him about too many matters of detail.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1894.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1894.1", "colnum": "1894", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "er attention and detailed consideration. As I say, if any hon. Member opposite except those on the Front Bench have read the Order and can answer one of the points I am raising, I will gladly give way in order that he or she can do so. I have dealt with Article III and I now come to Article IV. That, again, deals with a very technical matter and I do not want to read out the whole of this article.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1894.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1900.3", "colnum": "1900", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go ahead with it&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "l be exempt from French tax. If I understand that properly, all pensions are exempt from French tax. What about remuneration derived from sources within France by an individual who is a resident of the United Kingdom? Why is that excluded from the purview of this Order? Why is there this difference between Article XIII and Article XV in regard to that matter? I have only one final question to ask—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1900.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1910.4", "colnum": "1910", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "preceding_text": "What I said was—what is the right hon. Gentleman trying to say? He has been talking for five minutes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1910.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1912.2", "colnum": "1912", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AIR NAVIGATION ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "preceding_text": "e not made clear in the Order. I have taken the opportunity in the last few days to question pilots, and they are gravely concerned about this Order. That is the reason why I, and my hon. Friends, are praying against it to-night. Will there be a panel of professional pilots of large airliners who will examine other pilots? My second point concerns sub-paragraph (8) which deals with radio failings—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1912.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1915.1", "colnum": "1915", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AIR NAVIGATION ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Ward", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Or ground nuts.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Ward", "preceding_text": "ilot. One cannot always say that it is dangerous to continue a flight with a defective radio. Whether it is dangerous or not depends on many things. It depensd first on the weather: if the weather is good and visibility fine, it may be perfectly safe to continue. It depends on the cargo: if you were carrying passengers you would probably take a different decision than if you were carrying freight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1915.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1930.4", "colnum": "1930", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AIR NAVIGATION ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "It is early yet.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "That is a quite impossible proposition. After all, one knows at this time of day, although it has not yet got to the morning——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1930.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1931.0", "colnum": "1931", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AIR NAVIGATION ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "t be here the whole time. Physical nature makes that quite impossible, and therefore I have to come back occasionally. But I hear what is taking place. If hon. Members think that I have got to be here the whole time, very well, alter the Rules of the House. I quite understand. I do not want to be indiscreet in what I say, but we understand from the hon. Member for East Aberdeenshire (Mr. Boothby)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1931.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1931.1", "colnum": "1931", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AIR NAVIGATION ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "preceding_text": "other. With absolute respect, we are prepared to accept, after making a protest, the fact that you made a mistake in collecting voices, which was due to the fact that the Chamber was almost entirely filled by those who said \"Aye,\" and those who said \"No\" were not present. With all humanity and respect, we are prepared to accept that you made a mistake in collecting these voices and that, I think —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1931.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1931.1", "colnum": "1931", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AIR NAVIGATION ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "preceding_text": "in the future. I was saying, with all respect, Mr. Speaker, that we accept, in the terms in which you have expressed your statement, that you made a mistake, and that, therefore the position can be put in the hands of the Leader of the House. We accept the fact that you meant to say, \"The Noes have it.\" But when we come to this matter of bringing a speech by the hon. Member for East Aberdeenshire—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1931.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1932.2", "colnum": "1932", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; AIR NAVIGATION ORDER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Foster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Foster", "preceding_text": " losers we did not speak. It is, in my submission, a rule and a tradition of the House that if a mistake is made the side that has made the mistake loses with a good conscience. May I bring this (further matter to your consideration? The mistake was not yours; it was induced by the fact that, with the exception of a very small number, hon. Members on the other side had been creating a disturbance—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1932.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1936.1", "colnum": "1936", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Will the hon. Member translate?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "introduced by the Order; and this I find with considerable regret, as coming from a Socialist Government, is the most expensive of all the types, being 12s. 2d. a square foot for rugs and mats. It seems to be the policy of the right hon. Gentleman that when prices are rising all round he adds a new category at the topmost price of all, which might be said to be a policy pour encourager les autres.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1936.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1941.2", "colnum": "1941", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "at. The suggestion and the remedy I appreciate are out of order. Many of my hon. Friends have made a close study of this matter, and they will seek to spread enlightenment among hon. Members opposite, where it is much needed. Let me, therefore, summarise the effect of this as it will be both for the industry and for the citizen. For the industry it will undoubtedly mean more difficulties and loss.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1941.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1943.0", "colnum": "1943", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "That is just a plain lie.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1942.13"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1943.4", "colnum": "1943", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "I withdraw the suggestion that it was a lie: it was merely a reverse of the truth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1943.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1944.2", "colnum": "1944", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "I certainly express regret to the hon. Gentleman for making that mistake and confusing him with one or other of his 17 hon. Friends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1944.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1948.2", "colnum": "1948", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "That is the maximum price.", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "preceding_text": "Well, Sir, if I may refer to the cost of an Axminster carpet described as quality A1, in January, 1950, that carpet cost £136. As a result of this Order the same carpet will now cost £206.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1948.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1948.4", "colnum": "1948", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "preceding_text": "I do not suppose it really matters what the size is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1948.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1950.2", "colnum": "1950", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Take off the Purchase Tax.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "The retailers asked us for still higher prices than those in the Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1950.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1950.2", "colnum": "1950", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "The retailers asked us for still higher prices than those in the Order. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Take off the Purchase Tax.\"] The House knows perfectly well that if this Order were annulled the carpet industry would be thrown immediately into dislocation and chaos.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1950.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1950.6", "colnum": "1950", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Do not ask questions.", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "preceding_text": "Yes, I did.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1950.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1950.7", "colnum": "1950", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why mention it then?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "a systematic campaign—is not a campaign, as they may imagine, which is directed against this Government; it is not a campaign directed against the health of my hon. Friends; it is a campaign directed against the trade and industry of this country. Only this afternoon I received a telegram which I will not read to the House because I should be getting rather wide of the subject of carpets if I did—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1950.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1951.0", "colnum": "1951", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "I do not desire to interrupt this interesting argument, but I would ask for your guidance, Mr. Speaker. If the President of the Board of Trade is proposing to deal generally with the increase in prices policy of His Majesty's Government, about which I have no objection whatsoever.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1951.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1953.1", "colnum": "1953", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "I should like to point out that there are other hon. Members capable of putting down questions. If the hon. Member wants to know, there was a question by the hon. Member for Kidderminster (Mr. Nabarro) last Thursday.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1953.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-15", "file": "debates1951-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "d2e960f024c6fefa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1953.3", "colnum": "1953", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPETS (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "It is no good hon. Members posing as protectors of the consumer in this respect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-15a.1953.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-16", "file": "debates1951-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "84cfe07068ad2e64", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.1981.1", "colnum": "1981", "heading": "DEFENCE (COLONIAL MANPOWER)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Field", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Field", "preceding_text": "they automatically thought of the West African Coast being, as it is called, the White Man's Grave. I submit that it is not right that officers and N.C.O.s with the very great additional responsibility of serving in our Colonial Forces should be chosen in this extraordinary way. In some cases the results were deplorable. Some of the officers and men who were sent out had not the right temperament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.1981.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-16", "file": "debates1951-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "84cfe07068ad2e64", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.1984.7", "colnum": "1984", "heading": "DEFENCE (COLONIAL MANPOWER)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Field", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Twenty-five to 30 million.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Field", "preceding_text": "f the white race? A few people scattered over the whole world with a minimum of armed forces have in the past been able to maintain order and obedience under the most trying conditions. Such a structure could last only so long as the white man retained his hold on the key to that situation, which was education. For example, Nigeria, where I served, has a population of upwards of 20 million people—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.1984.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-16", "file": "debates1951-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "84cfe07068ad2e64", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.1984.7", "colnum": "1984", "heading": "DEFENCE (COLONIAL MANPOWER)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Field", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Field", "preceding_text": " analogy is drawn from before the war, perhaps my figure of 20 million is not far out—that country was administered by about 2,000 whites. It seems to me that those white people realised that if we could from those 20 million blacks, obtain 2,000 educated natives to take their places, they would be out of their jobs, and the whole basis of the system based upon white prestige would 'be undermined.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.1984.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-16", "file": "debates1951-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "84cfe07068ad2e64", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.1999.1", "colnum": "1999", "heading": "DEFENCE (COLONIAL MANPOWER)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Ross", "preceding_text": "That is a singularly foul attack. I have been a Member of this House for 22 years, and the hon. and learned Member with his muck rake could have found out anything I had said offensive to the Roman Catholic religion if there had ever been such a statement by me. It is entirely against the principles of this House to make these foul imputations without any basis whatever.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.1999.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-16", "file": "debates1951-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "84cfe07068ad2e64", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.2000.4", "colnum": "2000", "heading": "DEFENCE (COLONIAL MANPOWER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "lso repudiate racial intolerance. We have heard various theories advanced about education, and we have been told that one should be judged by education and the like. But what is the use of denying education to Africans and other people on racial grounds and then condemning them as unworthy of democracy because they do not possess education? I have spent rather a long time seconding this Amendment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.2000.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-16", "file": "debates1951-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "84cfe07068ad2e64", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.2002.4", "colnum": "2002", "heading": "DEFENCE (COLONIAL MANPOWER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gammans", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gammans", "preceding_text": "e exports from the Colonial Empire. That is why the dollar pool has filled. Surely those two facts can arouse some sense of pride in hon. Members opposite. Is it quite impossible for any one of them to get up at any time and say they are proud of the record of the British in the Colonies? This is not a record of any one party; it is the record of all the people of this country. Is it not possible—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.2002.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-16", "file": "debates1951-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "84cfe07068ad2e64", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.2011.1", "colnum": "2011", "heading": "DEFENCE (COLONIAL MANPOWER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You have.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "preceding_text": "There is no Member of this House who has done more harm to the prestige of this country in the Colonies than the hon. Member for Hornsey (Mr. Gammans).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-16a.2011.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2083.9", "colnum": "2083", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "I think that merchants are now able to deliver the quantities for which they are being asked.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2083.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2086.9", "colnum": "2086", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is this a debate?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "preceding_text": "Is not the right hon. Gentleman aware that that is an even greater distortion of the facts? My first reference was purely interrogatory, by asking the Parliamentary Secretary if he was aware of any abuse. Secondly, I agreed to provide to the Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2086.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2087.2", "colnum": "2087", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "preceding_text": "But is it in order, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, for the right hon. Gentleman to refuse to give an assurance to safeguard my informant, so that the matter can be investigated?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2087.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2098.3", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "It is not as bad as that. It is the case that the figure is different.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2098.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2109.2", "colnum": "2109", "heading": "MR. SPEAKER'S ILLNESS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "eedings today. It will be for the convenience of right hon. and hon. Members that I should tell them now that, on the most emphatic medical advice, Mr. Speaker will have to send a similar message on each sitting day this week. I am sure it would be the desire of the House to express its sympathies to Mr. Speaker in his illness and to give him wholeheartedly its best wishes for his speedy recovery.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2109.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2153.1", "colnum": "2153", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Profumo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Profumo", "preceding_text": "han direct route flights. If one works on that basis we get a figure of something like £32,000, which ought to be added to this report. That makes it quite a different state of affairs, because instead of a financial profit of approximately £260,000, we find there is a loss. Once more that horrible word crops up, as it has continually done in the British vocabulary since Socialism came into power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2153.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2205.2", "colnum": "2205", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Read it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "preceding_text": " that it was printed in Scotland, but I see that it was printed in Great Britain. May I ask, in passing, why we should not have the form of this report and accounts printed in the same way for both the Corporations? The facts are different, but I see no reason why, for ease of comparison, we should not have the two reports presented in the same fashion. What is the outstanding fact of this report?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2205.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2205.2", "colnum": "2205", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who said it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "preceding_text": ", I said, \"In conclusion, ladies and gentlemen, I am fortified by a year of progress.\" That is the report presented to this House. Let public enterprise look to its laurels. We have been told by hon. Gentlemen opposite, as we were told by their predecessors in the last 50 years that we have only to collectivise society, to remove the private interests, and everything in the garden would be lovely.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2205.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2209.1", "colnum": "2209", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"From where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "preceding_text": "ave to pay a heavy petrol tax; I do in a business with which I am connected, and so does everyone. But I am not allowed to show a loss or someone wants to know what I have been doing. This great organisation puts forward that it has to pay the same tax as others as a reason it is not successful. I am not a member of the Advisory Committee, but what is wrong with B.E.A.C. buying its petrol direct?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2209.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2228.2", "colnum": "2228", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "preceding_text": "He was here two minutes ago. He has only just gone out.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2228.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2234.1", "colnum": "2234", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Beswick", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Beswick", "preceding_text": "Because until I announced a change the policy was to operate these flying boats.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2234.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2243.1", "colnum": "2243", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "preceding_text": "t of the Minister. I am sure hon. Gentlemen opposite were of the opinion that the nationalisation of steel would do away with all this talk of big cigars and talks at Steel House and would introduce an era of justice and of plenty, yet by this Order the Minister may at his own discretion agree that certain people in the steel consuming industry should pay above the maximum price to purchase steel.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2243.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2243.1", "colnum": "2243", "heading": "IRON AND STEEL PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "cue_text": "Laugh- ter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "preceding_text": "on Members opposite may find that amusing—that the Minister should be able to create an official grey market in steel, that it should be possible for certain people to obtain privileges by going to the Ministry and seeing the right person there. That is the meaning of the Order as I interpret it. I hope that the Minister will interpret it in a clearer and, I trust, a more honest light than I have—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2243.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2246.2", "colnum": "2246", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rabbits.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "ters of the Crown. A speech was delivered last week in a village which I know very well, the village of Banstead. In that speech it was announced that harrying was to be carried on. I had an uncle who was a Master of Harriers for an area which covered the village of Banstead. Harriers are used to hound hares. The Opposition has chosen the wrong hound for the animal it is hunting. We are not hares.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2246.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2246.2", "colnum": "2246", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They were fox-hunters.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "ng as there were hon. Members willing to speak because the rules of the House were drawn up in the eighteenth century by two parties, whose members mainly consisted, as regards the back benchers, of fox-hunting squires; and it is from them that we get the name of \"Whip\" for those who see that people are in the pack when required. Then, the Irish came, and they were neither fox-hunters nor squires—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2246.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2246.2", "colnum": "2246", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "id so, in order to maintain the dignity of this House; and from that date, successive Oppositions, by pursuing the same tactics, have compelled a steady diminution in the free speech formerly accorded in this House, and we have had the Closure, the Kangaroo, and the Guillotine as subsequent processes. His Majesty's Government are anxious to maintain the maximum amount of free speech in this House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2246.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2247.1", "colnum": "2247", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about 'The Red Flag'?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "en Lord Margesson would have attempted that. This House has a very great and honourable tradition, which it is the duty of each succeeding generation to maintain in order to pass it on to its successors. This is the first time that on matters of administration it has been made perfectly plain, not merely by irresponsible back benchers like the hon. Member for Aberdeenshire, East (Mr. Boothby) but—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2247.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "rlier career that was his job in life; I hope that he will not really find it his duty as Leader of the House, because he has shown, only last week, that he felt that he was in an impartial position, and that he really wanted to give us all guidance. In so far as he was giving us guidance and suggesting that the present method of dealing with Prayers was not entirely satisfactory to his own party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "pposite wish to make this into a riot, they can, but I was proposing to reply to the right hon. Gentleman's offer that he made for the House to decide. What I was going to say was that he took this line, that the recent late night debates—which are not as unusual as all that: his memory must be fairly short if he thinks they are—had somehow broken the great and honourable traditions of this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You are still in the same position.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "hort or else, during the Leadership of the House of the Foreign Secretary, he absented himself from the House more than I thought he did. Certainly during the last Parliament we were constantly being twitted by the Lord President of the Council—in the days when Members opposite used to say that they were the masters now—that we were an incompetent Opposition because we did not sufficiently oppose.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": " the masters now—that we were an incompetent Opposition because we did not sufficiently oppose. [An HON. MEMBER: \"You are still in the same position.\"] Those who were in the House then will recollect many occasions on which taunts were thrown across the Table. Now, because there has been a certain amount of opposition, nothing very terrible, although one might think the world was coming to an end—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "that sat at the beginning of the last Parliament, of which I was a member, he will find that it was one of the matters which was discussed at very great length—how to treat delegated legislation, orders, rules, regulations, and the rest of it and put them under the ultimate control of Parliament. On that as an issue there is nothing between us. However, the right hon. Gentleman comes down tonight—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "this sort are generally put through the usual channels, in order to make sure that the Leader of the Opposition and his intimate advisers can come to a reasoned decision. I am certainly not in a position—and the right hon. Gentleman fully realises that—tonight to say \"Yes\" or \"No\" to that proposition. But I shall, of course, take the earliest opportunity of consulting the Leader of the Opposition.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "Leader of the Opposition and his intimate advisers can come to a reasoned decision. I am certainly not in a position—and the right hon. Gentleman fully realises that—tonight to say \"Yes\" or \"No\" to that proposition. But I shall, of course, take the earliest opportunity of consulting the Leader of the Opposition. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Where is he?\"] I have no doubt he is paired with the Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "roposition. But I shall, of course, take the earliest opportunity of consulting the Leader of the Opposition. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Where is he?\"] I have no doubt he is paired with the Prime Minister. [ Interruption. ] I would only like to say to the Prime Minister, who has now come in, that I am very glad that he is well enough, because this morning, when I read about his going into the nursing home—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1", "colnum": "2249", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You are perfectly capable of that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "o doubt he is paired with the Prime Minister. [ Interruption. ] I would only like to say to the Prime Minister, who has now come in, that I am very glad that he is well enough, because this morning, when I read about his going into the nursing home—[ Interruption. ] Well, if the courtesies of the House are to be abandoned, I am quite prepared to go into Billingsgate language, if you will allow me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2249.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2252.1", "colnum": "2252", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "een better if the proposal had been made through the usual channels in order to ensure that my right hon. Friend could have been able to deal with it at once. That is all. Of course, the right hon. Gentleman knows perfectly well the validity of what I am saying, and so does every hon. Gentleman behind him, but I undertake, of course, at once tomorrow, to consult my right hon. Friend in order that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2252.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2255.1", "colnum": "2255", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "explain if the hon. Gentleman will listen. We put down those Prayers for Thursday, 8th March, because we thought the debate on the Army Estimates would not go on for a prolonged period. When we put them down the Prime Minister's Motion to suspend the 10 o'clock rule was not on the Order Paper. It was the action of the Prime Minister in suspending the 10 o'clock rule for that evening which made it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2255.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2255.1", "colnum": "2255", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"After the last trains had gone.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "e spoke long after 10 o'clock that evening on the Army Estimates. Now, the hon. and learned Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Bing) attached his name to all these Prayers, because that made it possible for him to prevent their adjournment to another evening. At half-past one in the morning the debate on the Army Estimates was still continuing; it had nothing to do with those who had put down the Prayers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2255.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2260.1", "colnum": "2260", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He is in a minority.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "I should like to respond to the requests made by the last two hon. Members who have spoken. I am grateful to the right hon. and gallant Member for Gainsborough (Captain Crookshank) for his reception of the suggestion I made. It is a speech the like of which I have come to expect from him with great anticipation and pleasure since we have been together in this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2260.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-19", "file": "debates1951-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "6cf995146ce46957", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2260.1", "colnum": "2260", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "not try to raise the temperature. I have taken into account the fact that the opportunity for debating some Statutory Instruments is running out. The two with which we are concerned tonight do not present any question of urgency because the first is \"alive\" until 11th April, and the second to 25th April; but I shall take into consideration any other Statutory Instruments which may be time-expired—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-19a.2260.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2280.7", "colnum": "2280", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PLANNING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Harried.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend not aware that the Romany race is persecuted and hounded between local authorities and the police?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2280.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2292.8", "colnum": "2292", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PALACE OF WESTMINSTER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "This is all by arrangement and, as I said on the previous Question, I am looking into the problems connected with the late hours. However, the staff are perfectly happy with the arrangements and there have been no complaints.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2292.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2312.1", "colnum": "2312", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "I am exceedingly anxious to extend the usual courtesies but I hope that I may also expect them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2312.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2312.4", "colnum": "2312", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " has raised. I think it would be better if the discussion took place between himself and me; or himself and some other colleague, and me and another colleague. I do not consider that this is a matter for settlement, as it were, through the two Whips' rooms, excellent and admirable as are their representatives on both sides. But of course I should be quite ready to receive the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2312.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2312.4", "colnum": "2312", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ems to me to be one considerable obstacle to this discussion. It is the threat and the pressure involved in the action of the President of the Board of Trade in suspending price talks with trade organisations. He announced yesterday to the newspapers friendly to the party opposite, and late at night, hen the statement was being made here, to the rest of the Press—and this is a very serious matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2312.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2313.1", "colnum": "2313", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I hope I shall get the reasonable fair play we expect on this side of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2313.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2313.1", "colnum": "2313", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I hope I shall get the reasonable fair play we expect on this side of the House—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—I have no intention of withdrawing. Hon. Gentlemen really make a great mistake in thinking they can intimidate me. I know what my rights are. I have the greatest respect for the Chair—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2313.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2314.0", "colnum": "2314", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": " I have no doubt such a meeting could be arranged. With regard to the latter part of his observations, I will make inquiries as to exactly what has happened; for I am exceedingly anxious that this matter should be brought into the atmosphere that, in spite of all the difficulties, we managed to get last night, and until the latter part of the recent remarks of the right hon. Gentleman I had hoped—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2314.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2314.1", "colnum": "2314", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I feel great difficulty in these meetings beginning until the threat—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2314.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2314.1", "colnum": "2314", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I feel great difficulty in these meetings beginning until the threat—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—of the President of the Board of Trade, as I said, to subject to great hardship large and important sections of manufacturers and others in the country, by denying them their rights and treating them severely, is withdrawn. I do not propose that we should enter into any conversations of a friendly character—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2314.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2314.2", "colnum": "2314", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "y denying them their rights and treating them severely, is withdrawn. I do not propose that we should enter into any conversations of a friendly character—[ Interruption .]—I do not fear hon. Gentlemen opposite half as much as they fear their fellow countrymen. I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether we can have a withdrawal by the President of the Board of Trade as a prelude to this conversation——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2314.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2315.1", "colnum": "2315", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "This is really a serious matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2315.1", "colnum": "2315", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "This is really a serious matter. [ Interruption .] Is not this really a serious matter, and would it not be a great disadvantage to the House if the possibilities of friendly personal contact came to an end? May I hope that I shall hear from the right hon. Gentleman in the course of the afternoon—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2315.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2315.2", "colnum": "2315", "heading": "MOTIONS TO ANNUL ORDERS (PROCEDURE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " be a great disadvantage to the House if the possibilities of friendly personal contact came to an end? May I hope that I shall hear from the right hon. Gentleman in the course of the afternoon—[HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"]—that I shall hear from him before he expects me to meet him, with or without companions? I hope I shall hear from him that the President of the Board of Trade has withdrawn his threat.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2320.5", "colnum": "2320", "heading": "EASTER ACT (AMENDMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Colegate", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Colegate", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Gentleman had been following my argument, he would have realised that some festivals, like Christmas, are fixed, and will remain fixed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2320.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2346.1", "colnum": "2346", "heading": "EGYPT (STERLING BALANCES AGREEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Reid", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Reid", "preceding_text": "I agree, but we cannot put in counter-claims unilaterally.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2346.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2360.1", "colnum": "2360", "heading": "EGYPT (STERLING BALANCES AGREEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "settlements because they have very small balances—which would enable them to develop their strength. It is the discrepancy between the amount of goods which Egypt will be able to acquire under this settlement, and the desperate failure to provide the means by which Israel and Jordon could get an adequate supply of goods which is the political issue to which we call the attention of the Chancellor.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2360.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-20", "file": "debates1951-03-20a.xml", "sha256": "9237d47a2a8038d3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2377.0", "colnum": "2377", "heading": "EGYPT (STERLING BALANCES AGREEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Naturally, I cannot supply all this out of my memory; but this I do know. It was the solemn, repeated agreement of the War Cabinet, of all parties, that we should put in our counter-claims for repayment as against the debt which was being piled up. Whether that was imparted to them or not, I could not remember at the moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-20a.2377.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2424.2", "colnum": "2424", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL (INCREASED OUTPUT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Murray", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Murray", "preceding_text": "I am sure that the House is delighted to hear such a splendid statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2424.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2428.7", "colnum": "2428", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How do you know?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "I am sure the right hon. Gentleman would agree that it is not a question of a suitable time to take it. The only suitable time to take a debate of this kind is the earliest time, because only Parliament can approve these moneys. Surely, the Bill cannot be very difficult to draw.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2428.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2428.8", "colnum": "2428", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is the right hon. Gentleman sure?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "No, the sum is not being further increased.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2428.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2451.1", "colnum": "2451", "heading": "COUNCIL FOR WALES", "cue_speaker": "Lady Megan Lloyd George", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lady Megan Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "hat I would ask the Government to note— between Government Offices in Wales and central Departments. The Council are not alone in thinking that it is time that such an investigation should take place. There is a great and growing number of people in all parties and of no party who believe that an investigation into this whole question of Government is urgent and should be undertaken without delay.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2451.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2451.1", "colnum": "2451", "heading": "COUNCIL FOR WALES", "cue_speaker": "Lady Megan Lloyd George", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lady Megan Lloyd George", "preceding_text": " reply from him? In the six years in which we have had debates in Welsh affairs in this House, we have had a succession of Ministers replying to them and they were concerned with only one aspect of the problem of Wales. We have not yet done the whole round of Whitehall. It would take us 10 years to do that, and we have only had six years so far. I am not criticising the Government in this respect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2451.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2482.3", "colnum": "2482", "heading": "COUNCIL FOR WALES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": " have often thus devastated by means of afforestation much larger areas than they have covered with trees. Had they made a plan to integrate afforestation with agriculture, then afforestation would have been a blessing instead of a scourge to sheep farming in Wales. But, as it is, the Forestry Commission have driven straight ahead, without taking any notice of Welsh opinion or of local conditions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2482.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2486.2", "colnum": "2486", "heading": "COUNCIL FOR WALES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It was the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. Williams", "preceding_text": "30 or 40 years. What he wants us to do is to go back to the old days when there were instability and fluctuations and nobody knew where they were, which is the real reason for the loss of manpower in rural Wales. I have detained the House a few minutes longer than I intended, but I must reply to the hon. and learned Member for Carmarthen (Mr. Hopkin Morris). He referred to the Towy Valley scheme —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2486.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2495.1", "colnum": "2495", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is the date?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I am much obliged for the correction. I accept it. I have not got it, but I take it that the hon. Member has. The hon. Member for Sevenoaks did not thank him very much—he only thanked him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2495.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2498.1", "colnum": "2498", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "preceding_text": "largely fought by privilege. A breach of privilege is a contempt of Parliament of a very serious nature, not only because of the subject and character of it, but also because of the danger involved in it. It has always been held to be essential that a breach of privilege should be dealt with at once. It is not difficult to find exactly who voted on that occasion. There was, of course, Mr. Balfour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2498.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2498.1", "colnum": "2498", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "preceding_text": "but also because of the danger involved in it. It has always been held to be essential that a breach of privilege should be dealt with at once. It is not difficult to find exactly who voted on that occasion. There was, of course, Mr. Balfour. [ Interruption. ]The question was, \"That the procedure be adopted as outlined in the Motion.\" There was also the right hon. Gentleman Mr. Joseph Chamberlain.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2498.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2498.1", "colnum": "2498", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "preceding_text": "estion was, \"That the procedure be adopted as outlined in the Motion.\" There was also the right hon. Gentleman Mr. Joseph Chamberlain. [ Interruption. ]I am making an appeal to the Conservative Party not to oppose this Motion. There was Mr. Joseph Chamberlain, Mr. Austen Chamberlain, Mr. Winston Spencer Churchill, all of whom voted for it, and the late Speaker of the House of Commons voted for it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2498.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2501.3", "colnum": "2501", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "preceding_text": "so having regard to the great respect in which he is held on all sides of the House as one of the great Parliamentarians, and because of his influence in this House, apart from the noble Lord the right hon. Member for Horsham (Earl Winterton)—and the fact that if we have a new Parliament we shall have a new Father of the House—and because the right hon. Gentleman is so much older than anyone else.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2501.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2503.1", "colnum": "2503", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "He said that there was not a prima facie case.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2503.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2505.0", "colnum": "2505", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "er when the proper time comes. I may even make myself the agent, in the short time left to me, of converting the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne to a proper outlook on the way of life. Nothing was done that could possibly injure this vicar in his worldly affairs, in his office, or his pitifully small stipend. My hon. Friend was quite right to write to the bishop and send the letter to the bishop.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2505.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2510.1", "colnum": "2510", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "I think the whole House would agree that the speech of the Leader of the Opposition was disappointing to his own supporters as well as to hon. Members on this side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2510.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2512.0", "colnum": "2512", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "preceding_text": "Does the hon. Gentleman realise that there have been cases of men serving in the Forces having written to hon. Members and of that having reacted against them in some form or other?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2512.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2512.1", "colnum": "2512", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "e House—I am sorry that the right hon. Gentleman has gone—was in suggesting to the House that the hon. Member for Seven-oaks could not possibly have injured his constituent by sending on this letter to the bishop. That is the reverse of the truth. It is, in the first place, obvious that the letter from the hon. Member for Sevenoaks was intended to see if anything could be done to injure the vicar.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2512.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2517.1", "colnum": "2517", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Or the Opposition.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "The House has had some time to consider this Motion, and I think that perhaps I can now offer a few observations, although I am going to say straight away that Privilege is a matter for the House itself and is not. in my view, a matter on which the Government should give any advice or guidance to hon. Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2517.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2518.1", "colnum": "2518", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "k that I hesitated to come in this evening after two speeches had been delivered from this side of the House, because, whatever line a Member is going to take, we try, as a rule, to alternate speeches between one side and the other. I am sure everyone of us enjoyed the speech delivered by the right hon. Gentleman. I know that the family tradition is not strong in arithmetic, and I am bound to say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2518.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2526.1", "colnum": "2526", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Major Sir David Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Major Sir David Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "d in. With regard to the position of my hon. Friend the Member for Sevenoaks (Mr. John Rodgers), I simply want to say that I agree with what the right hon. Gentleman said about the dangers of irony but I go a little further. I hope, as I value his opinion, that he will agree with me that there are certain things to which our people do not like to have irony, and especially cheap irony, applied to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2526.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2531.2", "colnum": "2531", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "He did.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Greenwood", "preceding_text": " has tonight acquitted itself according to the best traditions of the House of Commons. In contrast with some recent debates, we have had a quiet, moderate and restrained discussion, but if there is one regret that I have left at the end of it it is that the Leader of the Opposition did not feel able to get up and say that he was prepared to give his supporters an entirely free vote on this issue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2531.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2532.0", "colnum": "2532", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": " Leader of the Opposition, but I did not do so because I was anxious not to take any more of the hon. Member's time. There is no question that there will be a free vote by hon. Members on this side of the House tonight. I intended to emphasise that. When I appealed to hon. Gentlemen to vote according to their consciences, I was appealing to the whole House, and I want to make that perfectly clear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2531.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2535.1", "colnum": "2535", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Greenwood", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Greenwood", "preceding_text": "oints of theological doctrine, but quite unjustified allegations against the behaviour of the Church of England in conditions as they are at the present time. The point I want to emphasise is that even if there had been a question of theological doctrine involved, it is no part of the duty of a Member of Parliament to set himself up as a guardian of the Church's conscience in matters of this kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2535.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2544.2", "colnum": "2544", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "I am sorry, but I cannot listen to the hon. Gentleman. The position is that the Adjournment has been moved.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2544.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2548.1", "colnum": "2548", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Stuart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"None.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Stuart", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that these Prayers are on the Order Paper, and that it was perfectly well known to the whole House that it was the intention to discuss them if the Government had not persisted in this method of moving the Adjournment of the House before the Secretary of State for Scotland or anybody else had been called, I should like to ask what redress hon. Members have got?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2548.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2548.1", "colnum": "2548", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Stuart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"None.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Stuart", "preceding_text": "ment had not persisted in this method of moving the Adjournment of the House before the Secretary of State for Scotland or anybody else had been called, I should like to ask what redress hon. Members have got? [HON. MEMBERS: \"None.\"]. Hon. Members must understand there is a limited period in which these Prayers can be moved, and what I wish to ask is what redress has this House got in this matter?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2548.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2548.2", "colnum": "2548", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not good enough.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "e they were moved, should have an opportunity of being discussed. Of the two Prayers for tonight, the first does not become time-expired until 15th April and the second does not become time-expired until 21st April. No matter what might occur with regard to the general discussions, I will undertake that an opportunity shall be afforded to the hon. Members whose names are attached to these Prayers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2548.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-21", "file": "debates1951-03-21a.xml", "sha256": "5b8ee6c62ef0fe4c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2548.2", "colnum": "2548", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "have put down Prayers that I will try to come to an arrangement with them whereby, assuming nothing comes of the other matter, we shall be able to discuss these Prayers in reasonable comfort and afford hon. Members an opportunity of dealing with the matter. I may say, in addition, that I think we should be helped in dealing with these and other matters if the present clogging, as it appears to me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-21a.2548.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2577.2", "colnum": "2577", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "preceding_text": "While welcoming the right hon. Gentleman back to the House in his new capacity, even though he will not be allowed to hold it very long—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2577.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2582.2", "colnum": "2582", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "Not without notice, but it does not seem very relevant anyhow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2582.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2588.0", "colnum": "2588", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Let me assure the right hon. Gentleman that there is absolutely no truth in what he has said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2588.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2590.3", "colnum": "2590", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Whiteley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Whiteley", "preceding_text": " nature, which have made it nearly impossible for us to run our business in the ordinary way. As a matter of fact, there has been no intimation to me from time to time about the question of Prayers. I got it into my head, rightly or wrongly, that the Opposition were endeavouring to run the House of Commons. We cannot afford to allow late Sittings to the extent of 1.30 and 2 o'clock in the morning.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2590.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2590.3", "colnum": "2590", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Whiteley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Whiteley", "preceding_text": "time to time about the question of Prayers. I got it into my head, rightly or wrongly, that the Opposition were endeavouring to run the House of Commons. We cannot afford to allow late Sittings to the extent of 1.30 and 2 o'clock in the morning. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I am responsible for the Orders of the Day, and I have to see at least that the people behind me are not going to be inconvenienced—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2590.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2592.2", "colnum": "2592", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Whiteley", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What matters?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Whiteley", "preceding_text": "There are many other matters which we cannot discuss across the Floor of the House. The right hon. Gentleman and I can now discuss those matters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2592.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2605.0", "colnum": "2605", "heading": "HEAVY GOODS VEHICLES (SPEED LIMIT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker (Colonel Sir Charles MacAndrew)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker (Colonel Sir Charles MacAndrew)", "preceding_text": "As the House knows, we have lost 25 minutes of the time for the five Adjournment debates, and as of the five debates, this one is the longest, I think it should suffer the 25 minutes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2605.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2617.1", "colnum": "2617", "heading": "HEAVY GOODS VEHICLES (SPEED LIMIT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": "I believe is vitally important. I believe that, with the volume of traffic which we have on the roads today, the construction of motor roads is absolutely essential, not only for public safety, but also in the interests of both drivers and the industry concerned. I think that, before we tackle this question of increasing the speed limit, which will inevitably mean greater risks to the pedestrians—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2617.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-03-22", "file": "debates1951-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "eb03009ddfc198ff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2617.1", "colnum": "2617", "heading": "HEAVY GOODS VEHICLES (SPEED LIMIT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": "he overtaking of vehicles is very often the cause of accidents on the roads, and we shall increase the volume of accidents if we allow heavy vehicles to travel at 30 miles an hour. There is always a tendency for the ordinary driver of a motor car to say, \"I am going to pass this heavy lorry, and get ahead.\" In conclusion, I want again to urge upon the Minister that this is a most important matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-03-22a.2617.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.1.5", "colnum": "1", "heading": "Mr. SPEAKER'S RETURN", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "May I be allowed to express to you, Mr. Speaker, the pleasure of hon. and right hon. Members at seeing you again in your accustomed place?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.1.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.1.8", "colnum": "1", "heading": "Mr. SPEAKER'S RETURN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": " should like to say \"Thank you\" to the right hon. Gentle- men and to all hon. Members of the House for welcoming me back. I was sorry to have to go away. To tell the honest truth, I felt just like a deserter when a battle was on, but my doctors were rather hard-hearted; they would not let me remain. I have to tell the House quite frankly that I am not, for the moment, supposed to sit up very late—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.1.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.8.4", "colnum": "8", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": ". I have, however, several times personally visited the site as well as the offices of Festival Gardens, Limited. I have seen all those principally concerned, and have taken such steps as seem to me advisable. The House will, I am sure, agree with me that when something appears to be wrong with the control of expenditure of public money it is right that changes in the top direction should be made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.8.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.10.2", "colnum": "10", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "I thought it desirable to have an independent accountant's report. Accounts, of course, have been kept.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.10.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.32.3", "colnum": "32", "heading": "COUNCIL OF EUROPE (UNITED KINGDOM REPRESENTATIVES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. Morrison", "preceding_text": " learned Gentleman the Member for Northwich (Mr. J. Foster), and the hon. Gentlemen the Members for Taunton (Mr. Hopkinson), and Belfast, South (Mr. Gage). The Liberal representative is the noble Lord, Lord Layton. These appointments are for the Third Session of the Assembly, and will hold good until either the beginning of the Fourth Session, or the election of the next United Kingdom Parliament—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.32.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.144.5", "colnum": "144", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "I am not quite clear—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.144.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.145.2", "colnum": "145", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Roberts", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Roberts", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I would like to get this matter quite clear. Surely we are praying that the Third Schedule should be annulled—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.145.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.145.4", "colnum": "145", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "We are all deeply grateful to you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, but looking at the Third Schedule, I do not find the related schedule No. 4L. That is still in. Therefore, I think I can at least read out its title—\"Women's and maids' underwear and nightwear and other knitted apparel.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.145.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.145.4", "colnum": "145", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "t from that in the Schedule, and the prosecution is directed not only against the shop assistant who made the mistake—in 99 cases out of 100 it is a mistake—but also against the employer, whether a person or a firm. We ought to take a little more trouble. I have here 100 pages of documents all of which are concerned in this matter. Some of the pages are full of lists, numbers, initials and prices.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.145.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.147.3", "colnum": "147", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Trade (Mr. Rhodes)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Trade (Mr. Rhodes)", "preceding_text": "ll try to explain the sequence of these Orders. S.I., 1951, No. 216 introduced three amended schedules, 3H, 4K and 6L. The numbers should be ignored because they are related to the type of garment manufactured, whereas the letter relates to an amendment. The Order also continued in force three Related Schedules, 1K, 16B and 17. The reason for that is, first, if hon. Members will look at 3H and 4K—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.147.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.150.3", "colnum": "150", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rhodes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rhodes", "preceding_text": "' prices, I can assure hon. Members that we do our utmost to keep them up-to-date. Related Schedules Nos. 3H and 4K, which came out with Statutory Instrument No. 216, were in relation to a previous maximum prices order. The Related Schedule could not come out without the Order; they are both part and parcel one of the other. Leaving the No. 6L, which was a reduction, and taking 1K, 16B and No. 17—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.150.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.163.3", "colnum": "163", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Irene Ward", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "Before my hon. Friend withdraws his Motion could the Parliamentary Secretary say something about the Merchant Navy?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.163.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-03", "file": "debates1951-04-03a.xml", "sha256": "89d97d635c0ada27", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.163.3", "colnum": "163", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Irene Ward", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is the hon. Lady interested in the Merchant Navy?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "Before my hon. Friend withdraws his Motion could the Parliamentary Secretary say something about the Merchant Navy? [ Interruption. ] It may not interest hon. Members opposite, but it is a matter of interest to the people of Tyneside.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-03a.163.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.177.6", "colnum": "177", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; GERMANY (PEACE TREATY)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What is the situation?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I cannot be at this stage. It is not a question of being sympathetic or unsympathetic. This is the situation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.177.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.183.0", "colnum": "183", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION (OVERSEAS SERVICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "That was a really first-class propaganda supplementary question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.183.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.183.3", "colnum": "183", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION (OVERSEAS SERVICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "Would the right hon. Gentleman take this matter a little more seriously? Is he aware that some of us believe that this is more important in certain respects even than re-armament expenditure?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.183.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.184.2", "colnum": "184", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION (OVERSEAS SERVICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I cannot agree that our own standards of economy in public expenditure have to be determined by the Soviet Union or the United States. We must consider them on the merits of the case. I am anxious to meet the wishes of my hon. Friend to the fullest possible extent, but I am not going to be submissive to an agitation that comes from certain quarters, calculated—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.184.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.184.2", "colnum": "184", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION (OVERSEAS SERVICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "dards of economy in public expenditure have to be determined by the Soviet Union or the United States. We must consider them on the merits of the case. I am anxious to meet the wishes of my hon. Friend to the fullest possible extent, but I am not going to be submissive to an agitation that comes from certain quarters, calculated—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Yes, I know perfectly well where it comes from.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.184.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.184.3", "colnum": "184", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION (OVERSEAS SERVICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "Will the right hon. Gentleman tell us what are the \"certain quarters\" to which he referred?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.184.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.192.4", "colnum": "192", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; WEST INDIES", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. Acland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Acland", "preceding_text": "nvestigations that are now proceeding. If those are investigations simply by the Minister's Labour officer I would ask, without any criticism of that officer, whether he is a sufficient man to investigate alone the very important question of why it was that something that may have started as a labour dispute degenerated into a disturbance and a riot with tremendous loss by damage and loss of life.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.192.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.209.7", "colnum": "209", "heading": "POST OFFICE SERVICES (INCREASED CHARGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "preceding_text": "The Post Office makes no contribution as such to the Treasury. What happens is that the cash account surpluses of the Post Office go to the Treasury.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.209.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.215.0", "colnum": "215", "heading": "POST OFFICE SERVICES (INCREASED CHARGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "preceding_text": "No. What I said in my statement was that we anticipated that there will, towards the end of the year, be a very small surplus, but events are moving so swiftly against us—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.215.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.231.1", "colnum": "231", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LEASEHOLD PROPERTY (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Foster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Foster", "preceding_text": "a lease of over 21 years under Clause 1. Surely the protection given to shops in premises which consist partly of shops and partly of accommodation is sufficient protection for a mixed tenancy. On this side of the House we think that the Government have been very cowardly in bringing forward this legislation instead of facing the problem and giving better protection than they give under this Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.231.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.237.1", "colnum": "237", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LEASEHOLD PROPERTY (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manningham-Buller", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manningham-Buller", "preceding_text": " that speech: ground leases relating to residential property. It is quite clear now that the words \"relating to residential property\" were not entirely accurate; and it would now appear as the Clause stands that the words, \"ground leases\" are not in any respect entirely accurate. On the Committee stage we endeavoured to insert in this Bill the words \"ground leases\" and a definition of that phrase—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.237.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-04", "file": "debates1951-04-04a.xml", "sha256": "cd643a71c9b9e931", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.277.2", "colnum": "277", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LEASEHOLD PROPERTY (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"But not his landlord.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": "He will not have that, but it will be a case of a tenancy coming to an end by virtue of a notice to quit by the landlord.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-04a.277.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.349.8", "colnum": "349", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blyton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blyton", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that Middlesex County Council ask questions about political faith, and as the National Union of Teachers have not the guts to take action against them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.349.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.357.3", "colnum": "357", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman will know the deep concern we feel about this very restricted degree of underemployment compared with the large amount of under-employment that Lancashire knew before the war—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.357.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.381.11", "colnum": "381", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ommand under the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. Is that so? What are the prospects? May I ask the Leader of the House to remember that we have postponed a debate on the subject several times? If no White Paper is to be made available shortly, we shall have to ask for an opportunity to discuss the matter in the week after next. Perhaps that matter might be discussed through the usual channels—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.381.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.417.5", "colnum": "417", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ARMY AND AIR FORCE (ANNUAL) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "the few words I want to say I hope to make it clear to them that this is no attack on the regimental spirit. After all, as hon. Members know, the regimental spirit does not depend on the wording of the Army Act. This takes up a point made by the hon. Member for Blackpool, North (Mr. Low), at the conclusion of his speech: the wording of an Act of Parliament is not intended primarily to be graceful.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.417.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.428.1", "colnum": "428", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "preceding_text": "em with me on this point, as on some of the earlier points I have made. During the years of depression the organisation for selling fish in South Wales obviously was not very effective or successful. People, in the days when hon. Gentlemen opposite had the power, had not got the money to buy the fish that was landed on the quayside at Milford Haven or in many of the other fishing ports in Britain.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.428.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.430.0", "colnum": "430", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Roberts", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Roberts", "preceding_text": "lation to the whole fishing industry of Great Britain, it is nevertheless an important part of the economy of the small Welsh ports; that is why it needs protection. If proper attention is to be given to Welsh questions by this new highly centralised organisation, I think that it is essential that we should have a Welsh Committee to advise the Authority. The Bill provides for a Scottish Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.430.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.453.2", "colnum": "453", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "Will the hon. and learned Gentleman tell us that the \"other similar officer\" can only be a director, or only a secretary, or general manager? He can be anyone acting in any way like that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.453.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.462.4", "colnum": "462", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "as been connected with this industry for 50 years, I want to place on record that it has been left to a Labour Government to produce for the first time a satisfactory scheme for dealing with our fishing industry. In spite of the fact that the Opposition party were in power for year after year, they were never willing to deal with this industry in a proper manner, nor were they capable of doing so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.462.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.474.3", "colnum": "474", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SEA FISH INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robertson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robertson", "preceding_text": "Before my right hon. Friend sits down—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.474.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.488.2", "colnum": "488", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SALMON AND FRESHWATER FISHERIES (PROTECTION) (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pryde", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pryde", "preceding_text": "on. Friends the mover and seconder pointed out that in local areas there were local influences. I have in mind one case in particular in a town not far from where I stay where, one Christmas Day, a miner who had a great love of birds wanted to form an aviary and went out and caught bullfinches. He was caught and went to the sheriff's court and that day I happened also to be in the sheriffs' court—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.488.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.502.5", "colnum": "502", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BERMONDSEY COUNCIL (AUDITOR'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is his business to keep in touch.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary did not expect the debate to come on until at least 10 o'clock.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.502.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.502.6", "colnum": "502", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BERMONDSEY COUNCIL (AUDITOR'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "preceding_text": "fore the Bermondsey Council on 22nd November. They made a great number of comments, incorporated in a resolution, some of which reflected very severely on the integrity of the district auditor. They directed that copies should be sent to the Ministry and to the local Member of Parliament. It is fair to say that the Bermondsey Council—I regard it naturally as regrettable—is 100 per cent. Socialist.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.502.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.509.3", "colnum": "509", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BERMONDSEY COUNCIL (AUDITOR'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "appreciated on both sides, and I say very sincerely to the hon. Member that I am very much obliged to him. Having said those nice things about the hon. Member, I now propose to deal with the subject matter and to say straightaway that I am not convinced that the hon. Member has come to the House and raised this matter on an Adjournment debate purely on the great principles which he has enumerated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.509.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.509.3", "colnum": "509", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BERMONDSEY COUNCIL (AUDITOR'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That proves it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "r at all. Evidently they are satisfied with the report given by the local council. The hon. Member for Enfield, West, however, finds sufficient time to put down a Question and to raise the matter on an Adjournment debate, and then asks us to believe that he is doing this as a non-political matter and purely out of the goodness of his heart because he is so interested in the welfare of the auditor.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.509.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.511.1", "colnum": "511", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BERMONDSEY COUNCIL (AUDITOR'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Studholme", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Surely it is the tradition of this House that hon. Members accept an assurance given in good faith. May I suggest that it would be only courteous that the hon. Member for Bermondsey (Mr. Mellish) should accept it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.511.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.514.1", "colnum": "514", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BERMONDSEY COUNCIL (AUDITOR'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Look at the time.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "It is now said that he has written to the hon. Gentleman and that he says that in fact all these entries are correct. With great respect, I say that they could not have been correct by virtue of the statement about the actual number of meetings during this period at the speedway track and the statement about the number of journeys made. Although the auditor knew this, these comments were not made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.514.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-05", "file": "debates1951-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "078b83f954c86da9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.516.3", "colnum": "516", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BERMONDSEY COUNCIL (AUDITOR'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Local Government and Planning (Mr. Lindgren)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Local Government and Planning (Mr. Lindgren)", "preceding_text": "rrect language, and did not cast the slightest reflection on the district auditor in any way and were absolutely correct and proper from their point of view. Now, the hon. Gentleman referred to the question of a member of the council and his observations, and he referred to the fact that a member of the council, in his speech, said that the district auditor either lacked intelligence or integrity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-05a.516.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-06", "file": "debates1951-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "d530d67c86c3fc0f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-06a.608.1", "colnum": "608", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PET ANIMALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Ross", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A compliment.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Ross", "preceding_text": "s? It is not enough to punish cruelty adequately. We want to prevent it from occurring altogether, and the steps proposed under the Bill would do that. The Bill has one grievous disappointment for me. It is a good Bill. Why, therefore, should Scotland be denied it? Scotland is denied it in specific terms by Clause 8 (2): This Act shall not extend to Scotland. Scotland might take that as an insult.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-06a.608.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.630.2", "colnum": "630", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "I have never given any such invitation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.630.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.631.6", "colnum": "631", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. So far as I could hear, at least the last three Members who put supplementaries did so without being called.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.631.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.632.1", "colnum": "632", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Glanville", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Glanville", "preceding_text": "We hear a lot about dirty coal, and I want to ask the Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.632.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.639.0", "colnum": "639", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FUEL AND POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Only.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "I have explained that the amount is very small. Since 1st January, 1950, I have authorised the expenditure of only £400,000 on new construction and adaptations", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.639.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.763.1", "colnum": "763", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": " giving him that opportunity because, however the Parliamentary Secretary may like to think of it himself, ordinary people in this country regard this reduction by 33&#x2153; per cent. in the rationed quantity of a basic foodstuff as a failure on the part of the Ministry of Food. Let the Parliamentary Secretary look back into the files of his Department to the time when Lord Woolton was in charge—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.763.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.770.3", "colnum": "770", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who did?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "s out of a total demand of 210,000 tons. I would say in passing that when we talk about home production we must pay regard to capacity, and we are using our present capacity to the utmost. Now let us look abroad and see where we can get cheese. The main source of supply is the Southern Dominions. It is most unfortunate that hon. Members should talk about \"mouse trap cheese\" and that sort of thing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.770.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.774.2", "colnum": "774", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "preceding_text": "Will the hon. Gentleman allow that there is all the difference in the world between prices in this country which are subsidised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.774.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.775.0", "colnum": "775", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Nonsense.", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "preceding_text": " prices in this country which are subsidised—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah&#x0021;\"] I really do not think that hon. Gentlemen opposite should gloat and make those peculiar noises. Those subsidies are provided by the taxpayers in this country by high taxes on a number of things. Price for price, the price in many continental countries for all types of cheese is substantially lower than it is in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.774.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.776.3", "colnum": "776", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "nt were extremely sorry that this reduction had to take place before a larger meat ration could be given. The hon. Gentleman talked about the amounts of cheese. I took down the amounts that were eaten in this country before the war and are being eaten now, but he will agree that if we are discussing the amount of nourishment for people, one should include the other proteins—meat as well as cheese.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.776.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-09", "file": "debates1951-04-09a.xml", "sha256": "6223a09fcdae2a6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.778.0", "colnum": "778", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION (REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What does the right hon. Lady know about it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member comes to this House and does not seem to express the slightest regret, but seems to think that we were lucky to have the 3 ozs. All I can tell him is that the people of this country do regret it and feel that the Government are not looking after their food as they ought to. The majority of the people in this country, the large majority—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-09a.778.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.806.0", "colnum": "806", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "In view of this tremendous increase in milk yield, could my right hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.806.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.806.0", "colnum": "806", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheese.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "view of this tremendous increase in milk yield, could my right hon. Friend—[ Interruption. ] Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, if the noble Lord the Father of the House could contain himself, I could go on with my supplementary question. I was asking my right hon. Friend if he could inform me, in view of the tremendous increase in the milk yield, what proportion of that milk is now being used for—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.806.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.812.0", "colnum": "812", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF PENSIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Davies", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Davies", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware of the welcome given by disabled men to the information he has given? Will he make the country aware also of the draconic treatment meted out to the disabled between the wars—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.812.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.862.7", "colnum": "862", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HYDROCARBON OILS", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "sent circumstances there is a good case for a further contribution from this source to provide additional revenue. I propose, therefore, to raise by 4&#x00BD;d. a gallon—half the increase made last year—the Customs Duty on petrol and other light oils and on heavy oils used as road fuel. The increase will apply to any oils of this kind which become chargeable with duty, from 6 o'clock this evening.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.862.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.865.2", "colnum": "865", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUMMARY", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": " the solution of the problem with which we started. The gap to be filled was, as the Committee will remember, £150 million. This was increased, by the changes in pensions which we propose, to £170 million, but I have estimated also that the additional corporate savings which should result from the increase in the Profits Tax will amount to £30 million, and therefore reduce the gap to £140 million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.865.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.868.2", "colnum": "868", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SUMMARY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "It is now my duty to put the appropriate Ways and Means Resolutions to the Committee. I assume that, in accordance with recent practice, hon. Members have now received a copy of the Resolutions and that the Committee will be agreeable to my putting them in a shortened version.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.868.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.879.5", "colnum": "879", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "nd to say that I feel the right hon. Gentleman has placed himself, by his opening statement this afternoon, in a good position to conduct the long and severe debates we shall no doubt have on many aspects of the policy. I would not like to turn to criticisms without saying that again I feel sure that the whole House would wish to send a message of goodwill and encouragement to Sir Stafford Cripps.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.879.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.884.1", "colnum": "884", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "he Society of Chartered Accountants. I cannot help feeling that the time has come when it is no longer possible to keep on dipping, as was said by me on a previous occasion, into the so-called pool, the pool of the rich. There is no longer an unlimited pool of wealth in the hands of the rich from which the Chancellor can draw. The Government have already killed the goose which laid the golden egg—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.884.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.894.1", "colnum": "894", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "I shall not be long on an occasion like this. We have had a very interesting Budget speech, delivered in a pleasant voice and in a pleasant manner, but I have one criticism. I wish the Chancellor would not be quite so pompous when he says, \"I have something rather technical to say, and hon. Members need not listen, because they would not understand.\" That is virtually what he says.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.894.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.895.1", "colnum": "895", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "ast made there. Therefore, it has always been vitally important that people should continue to work for longer than they have done in the past; otherwise, the nation will crash in ruins. We shall have to do as the robins do when the youngsters kill off the old ones, which is a very unpleasant prospect for those who are my age. Who are the biggest sinners in this respect? The Government themselves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.895.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.895.1", "colnum": "895", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Does the hon. Member want to pray again?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "they could present their case, and which could act in a judicial manner and present its report to Parliament. If that was done, the same procedure would apply as applies under the Import Duties Advisory Committee, and the necessary order would have immediate effect, subject to an affirmative Resolution for an increase of Purchase Tax, or to a negative Resolution if the Purchase Tax was diminished.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.895.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.898.1", "colnum": "898", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "Why should they? It is only incompetent people who get National Assistance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.898.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.898.1", "colnum": "898", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "Why should they? It is only incompetent people who get National Assistance. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] Well, perhaps that is wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.898.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.898.1", "colnum": "898", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the shareholders?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "Why should they? It is only incompetent people who get National Assistance. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] Well, perhaps that is wrong. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"] I agree that I was wrong; I was provoked. The interruption had no relevance, because a company is not qualified to apply for National Assistance, and I am talking about a company.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.898.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.913.3", "colnum": "913", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "I agree that it is as simple as that, I am not arguing anything different from what I just said. I am giving the broad facts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.913.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.913.3", "colnum": "913", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "I agree that it is as simple as that, I am not arguing anything different from what I just said. I am giving the broad facts. [ Laughter. ] It is no use Members laughing. I am saying what I said before, that if we take from a company a larger part of its profits, then the company is being left with far fewer profits.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.913.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.914.3", "colnum": "914", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "e to pay a substantial amount of the cost. That strikes me as a reasonable and sensible thing to do, and some of us have been asking it for a long time. But it is not a little interesting that last week a distinguished member of the Government, no less than the Minister of Labour, was declaring publicly that he would not remain a member of a Government which levied precisely such a charge as this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.914.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.924.3", "colnum": "924", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about materials.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "nd the hon. Gentleman a copy. I suggest that an 8 per cent. increase in overall industrial production during the period 1951&#x2013;52 and the increased revenue derived by the Chancellor therefrom, in direct and indirect taxation revenue, would itself be sufficient to pay for the increased burden of armaments during the first year of the re-armament programme. That is not an unreasonable argument.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.924.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.949.0", "colnum": "949", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MISCELLANEOUS", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Gomme-Duncan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Gomme-Duncan", "preceding_text": "But is it not a fact that out of profits come wages?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.949.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.959.4", "colnum": "959", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BISHOPS (RETIREMENT) MEASURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"As an Independent?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "ocrisy, are a little unwilling to recognise the fact that if Jesus of Nazareth were to return to the world He would not be seen on the Episcopal Bench of the House of Lords, but possibly speaking somewhere in Hyde Park with no one listening to Him. He would certainly have no affiliation with any political party, and that is the main point of the speech on this Measure which I wish to make tonight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.959.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.963.1", "colnum": "963", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BISHOPS (RETIREMENT) MEASURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "guished lawyer and I venture to point out that Clause 5 (1, c ) reads: &#x2026;no such complaint shall be entertained&#x2026;if and so far as it relates to the social or political opinions of a bishop. In the course of the hon. Baronet's opening speech, I asked whether, if those views were totalitarian, that was a disqualification and he said \"Certainly not.\" Therefore, the effect of this Measure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.963.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.964.5", "colnum": "964", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BISHOPS (RETIREMENT) MEASURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Member will permit me to intervene, I was replying to his previous outrageous remark, that it was quite impossible for a member of the left wing of the Labour Party to go to a parish priest who was a member of the Conservative Party and treat him as his father in God. I know from personal experience that that is utterly untrue—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.964.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-10", "file": "debates1951-04-10a.xml", "sha256": "1d978133d196ac4f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.965.4", "colnum": "965", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BISHOPS (RETIREMENT) MEASURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "—for a man with very left wing opinions to be willing to regard as his father in God someone who belongs to the right wing opinion. I do not believe in either wing, but nevertheless, that is obviously so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-10a.965.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.992.5", "colnum": "992", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH BROADCASTING CORPORATION (OVERSEAS SERVICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that such friendly pressure as did come was from this side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.992.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1001.8", "colnum": "1001", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CHINA (DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "Are His Majesty's Government considering appeasement on the subject of Formosa?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1001.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1002.2", "colnum": "1002", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CHINA (DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "No. Sir.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1002.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1002.3", "colnum": "1002", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CHINA (DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He answered.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. With great respect, I put a question to the Foreign Secretary—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1002.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1038.1", "colnum": "1038", "heading": "CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "In reply to the second part of that question, I can say at once that the answer is \"all the cheese that is there.\" We undertake to take the whole of their exportable surplus and, in fact, do take it. In reply to the first part of the question, I think it would be quite improper publicly to reveal the figures of our stocks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1038.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1041.4", "colnum": "1041", "heading": "CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "d obtain it during the season and, while we did so, the cheese ration went up to 3 oz. That supply is now exhausted. There is now no cheese available in the North American Continent. At the moment a cheese-buying mission is about to visit Canada with a view to making arrangements for next season. This is the appropriate time of the year for that. There is no sense in having a mission go to Canada—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1041.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1043.0", "colnum": "1043", "heading": "CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "If we had been willing to pay more last year we should not have got more cheese. Costs have gone up since, and, in the light of the increased costs to the producer, largely arising out of the Korean war—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1043.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1068.1", "colnum": "1068", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Benson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the Post Office?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benson", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Member is quite wrong. The number of non-industrial civil servants is something like between 420,000 and 440,000.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1068.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1069.1", "colnum": "1069", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "August.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "I said \"last summer.\" I do not have the exact date.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1069.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1073.0", "colnum": "1073", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Stanley Holmes", "preceding_text": ". The sixth, and by no means the least, is the general absence of reserves and elbow room in the national economy with which to face new and unforeseen demands such as the Chancellor now has to face. The hon. Member for Chesterfield referred to the 1914&#x2013;18 war. I would point out to him that the country ended the recent war in a far weaker position than that in which it found itself in 1919.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1072.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1074.0", "colnum": "1074", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Sir S. Holmes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir S. Holmes", "preceding_text": "s was assured for years. In addition, our country had been knocked about much more in the Second World War than in the First World War. During the period of the Second World War, we had been unable to build any houses or do repairs or buy all sorts of commodities we wanted. The result was that when the war ended in 1945, work was assured for years and years, whatever Government had got into power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1074.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1076.2", "colnum": "1076", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir S. Holmes", "preceding_text": "ld be able to do. The Chancellor said yesterday that if Members wanted to suggest how expenditure could be saved, would they please do it in a practical way. I propose to try to do that. First, I take the National Health Service. That is costing the taxpayer £400 million a year. I would remind the Committee that when that scheme was brought in, it was said that the scheme would be self-supporting.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1076.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1077.1", "colnum": "1077", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Sir S. Holmes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Look behind you.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir S. Holmes", "preceding_text": "t and the other after personnel. At the same station today the same station-master has 14 inspectors instead of three. In all the railway departments throughout the country there are too many clerks and too many officials. There is no doubt that money could be saved. The result of nearly six years of Socialist Government is that today we are the highest taxed and the worst-fed nation in the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1077.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1094.3", "colnum": "1094", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh,\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "preceding_text": "Then we come to paragraph 3, following which we may say that we should all be grateful that so many millions voted Labour in 1945 and 1950. As a result of the policy of regulating our economy we have not only achieved all that but, according to the economic reviews of other countries, the wages and standard of living in Britain are relatively higher than they are in any other country in the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1094.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1098.3", "colnum": "1098", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "preceding_text": "smen: Is it a fact that the shortage of sulphur has been foreseen for three years? If so, why have no substitutes been introduced? Why have we been left so dependent on sulphur from the United States? If anyone doubts that this was foreseen, let them turn to the White Paper, which can be obtained in the Library. Unfortunately, there are published far too many reports upon which no action is taken.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1098.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1114.3", "colnum": "1114", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Evans", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Evans", "preceding_text": "We are quite willing to proceed on the basis of the rate for the job. My grievance is that we are paying the rate but we are not getting the job done efficiently. I would say that a 500 per cent. increase in income for a 40 per cent. increase in production is unduly generous. But I must not try the patience of the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1114.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1145.1", "colnum": "1145", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "r-off groups of the country as a whole, one reaches a figure of £105 million or so increased taxation, which will fall on people with fairly comfortable incomes. Against that, the increases of taxation which will fall on those people whose incomes are small will be the whole of the Entertainments Duty. It will fall on people who go to the cinema and who are assumed to be the less well paid groups.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1145.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-11", "file": "debates1951-04-11a.xml", "sha256": "eb484ae610216ba7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1145.1", "colnum": "1145", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": " taxation imposed on the better-off groups, as against only £8 million to £10 million imposed on the poorer groups, with a certain sum which can be considered as neutral from this point of view. I say seriously that this represents an extremely fair and equitable distribution of the burden of re-armament. I do not say that these calculations are accurate down to the last million pounds, obviously.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-11a.1145.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1166.8", "colnum": "1166", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rhodes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak slowly.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rhodes", "preceding_text": "I can find no recommendation in the Plant Report in the terms suggested by the hon. Member. I assume that he has in mind the various recommendations in paragraphs 137&#x2013;150 of the report, which were designed to give the producer certain safeguards in his dealings with the distributor—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1166.8"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1201.0", "colnum": "1201", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "st any country—that both the school population and the number of old age pensioners has been increasing simultaneously as a proportion of our total population, and at the same time we have been trying to give them both better standards. The hon. Member for Harwich (Sir S. Holmes) said last night that he would have postponed the raising of the school leaving age. We disagree with him on that point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1201.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1208.0", "colnum": "1208", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about the car tax?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "g power to that extent. Allowing for our other proposals, it would be hard to find an alternative which would yield so much and spread the burden more widely. Let us remember in our debates on the increase in petrol tax that, even with this further rise, petrol is still sold in this country a good deal cheaper than in most other countries in Europe. The price of petrol in France stands at 4s. 11d.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1207.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1211.1", "colnum": "1211", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": " States today, after the most recent Budget proposals put forward, it is estimated—and I think the comparison is rather interesting—that the new rates of tax proposed will mean that 57 per cent. of corporate profits will be taken in taxation. In addition to that, the dividends paid to shareholders are again taxed. It is a fair comparison, as fair as we are able to make. The total taxes on profits—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1211.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1257.1", "colnum": "1257", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": ". It is true that later they absorbed part of D.O.T. who were making one or two grants but they are now paying out £1&#x00BC; million. The Minister of Agriculture is paying out something like £5 million in grants. Now I come to the two whackers—the B.B.C., with its £17 million, and the grant to the universities and colleges which today is £23 million and before the war was only £2&#x00BD; million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1257.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1266.1", "colnum": "1266", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Hon. Members asked for details.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. When the debate started we were asked from the Chair to limit our speeches as much as possible. The debate has now gone on for three and a half hours, and during that time we have listened for two and half hours to three speeches from the Opposition. I would appeal to you, Mr. McLeavy, that there are many other hon. Members who want to speak.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1266.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1266.3", "colnum": "1266", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Would you abolish them?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": " seen this service working—I have seen it at work both in city and country districts—will know that hundreds of thousands of children get these meals, at the reduced price of about one-third the actual cost, who do not need them at all, and whose parents are both able and willing to provide them with meals but are not such fools as to do it when they are invited to take the meals from the schools.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1266.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1266.3", "colnum": "1266", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Means test.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": "ed price of about one-third the actual cost, who do not need them at all, and whose parents are both able and willing to provide them with meals but are not such fools as to do it when they are invited to take the meals from the schools. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Would you abolish them?\"] No, of course I would not, abolish them. Let us not cut out the meals from one child who would not otherwise get them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1266.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1266.3", "colnum": "1266", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Means test.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": "nvited to take the meals from the schools. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Would you abolish them?\"] No, of course I would not, abolish them. Let us not cut out the meals from one child who would not otherwise get them—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Means test.\"]—but on this matter as on others there should be a needs test. We could, I believe, save £15 million on school meals alone without doing any real harm to any child.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1266.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1272.0", "colnum": "1272", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": "hon. Member why in a few words. Because we see now a quite substantial, natural movement to these areas. We saw the other day, for instance, that Paton and Baldwins, one of the biggest spinners in the country, have set up a factory in one of these areas without assistance. This can be done. Happily, these areas have been cured of their disease to a large extent. They are no longer depressed areas.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1272.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1272.0", "colnum": "1272", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": "ers in the country, have set up a factory in one of these areas without assistance. This can be done. Happily, these areas have been cured of their disease to a large extent. They are no longer depressed areas. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] Do not let hon. Members opposite cheer in that self-satisfied way. Long before their party was in power this matter was being tackled, and effectively tackled—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1272.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1272.0", "colnum": "1272", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You created it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": " areas without assistance. This can be done. Happily, these areas have been cured of their disease to a large extent. They are no longer depressed areas. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] Do not let hon. Members opposite cheer in that self-satisfied way. Long before their party was in power this matter was being tackled, and effectively tackled—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"]—by a Conservative Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1272.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1272.0", "colnum": "1272", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": " suggest that today if we can hold prices the farmers will produce the stuff. If we can give the farmers a fair price, or even if we cannot, they do not want this host of officials behind them, and the right hon. Gentleman might consider an economy of £2 million in this Department. I do not want too grossly to weary the Committee, therefore I will go even quicker over one or two other Departments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1272.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1273.1", "colnum": "1273", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": " That is what we see, and that is why I am speaking here now. I suggest there should be a cut of £2&#x00BD; million in this direction. The Office of Works has gone up from £1,681,000 to £10,300,000—a gross expenditure of five times what it was and a net of 13 times what it was, and a staff three and a half times as large as it was. I suggest we could quite well have an economy of £2 million there.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1273.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1274.0", "colnum": "1274", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": "—things that, without any impertinence from hon. Members opposite, are scarce enough in this country today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1274.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1274.2", "colnum": "1274", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Waterhouse", "preceding_text": "That is a perfectly fair question. The total saved would be somewhere between £70 million and £80 million without any material cuts in any service. That ties up with what my right hon. Friend the Member for Aldershot (Mr. Lyttelton), said yesterday, that he thought some £50 million could be saved on administration alone. I have not been through the whole list.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1274.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1298.1", "colnum": "1298", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "preceding_text": "rise is due, as my right hon. Friend the Member for Aldershot told us yesterday, to many causes, and above all to the effects of devaluation, which was brought about in 1949 largely by the previous extravagance and mismanagement of the Government. Do you remember, Major Milner, that Sir Stafford Cripp's broadcast indicated that the rise in prices would be very slight and how he played it all down?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1298.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1303.1", "colnum": "1303", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "preceding_text": " while for public authority to know something about the conditions which made possible the Dark Ages. How many Members of Parliament, he asks, know anything about this previous warning that there are limits to the amount of \"planning from above\" which civilised society can bear without loss of vitality, initiative and, in the last resort. power of self-defence against the incursions of barbarians.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1303.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1303.1", "colnum": "1303", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Assheton", "preceding_text": "ng J. C. Stobart— The whole Roman world was being slowly strangled with good intentions. The bureaucracy had grown so highly organised and efficient that everybody walked in leading strings to the music of official proclamations. Paternalism regulated everything with its watchful and benignant eye. The triumph of the system may be seen in the famous Edict of Prices issued by Diocletian in 301 A.D.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1303.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1312.1", "colnum": "1312", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They had not read Gibbon.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "o shareholders. If that is not the effect of this tax, then the Chancellor will have to consider alternative ways of achieving his purpose. When the right hon. Member for Blackburn, West, was reading the classics I was consulting the financial columns of the newspapers, and I noticed from this morning's papers that in the Canadian Budget there has been a steepening of the tax on profits in Canada.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1312.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-12", "file": "debates1951-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "566e0ed7cb25bc4e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1322.4", "colnum": "1322", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NURSES' UNIFORMS (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": " has been questioned on this Schedule about \"manufacturers' maximum prices.\" There appears to be considerable variety in the prices in this Schedule. The manufacturer appears to get one price if he sells otherwise than by retail and another price if he sells by retail. Will the hon. Gentleman say whether he thinks that disparity is justified and whether our interpretation of this Order is correct.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-12a.1322.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-13", "file": "debates1951-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "a025914d7bc12f83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1336.3", "colnum": "1336", "heading": "ELDERLY PERSONS (EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. R. Bevins", "preceding_text": "d and elderly in employment. This Motion was put on the Order Paper before the Chancellor of the Exchequer made his statement on retiring age and pensions to the Committee on Tuesday, but although his statement is bound to influence the course of this debate, I think it hardly dispenses with the need for it. This is my second excursion into Private Members' time on a Friday, for which I apologise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1336.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-13", "file": "debates1951-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "a025914d7bc12f83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1346.1", "colnum": "1346", "heading": "ELDERLY PERSONS (EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thompson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thompson", "preceding_text": "ncellor when he said that we ought to do all we could to persuade employers to continue offering employment to the elderly. At the same time, there are so many medical aspects of the problem that I think the House will want to bear in mind what my hon. Friend said about the increase in the expectation of life. We are at the present time witnessing in our welfare services something of a revolution—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1346.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-13", "file": "debates1951-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "a025914d7bc12f83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1349.1", "colnum": "1349", "heading": "ELDERLY PERSONS (EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "ut there are still sections of the population who do not seem to do any work at all at any time. If it is to be urged by hon. Members opposite that we should retain our people in industry over retiring age, it is time they were telling some of their friends that they ought to do some useful work, even before retiring age, in order to make a success of the system of society we are trying to create.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1349.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-13", "file": "debates1951-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "a025914d7bc12f83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1351.3", "colnum": "1351", "heading": "ELDERLY PERSONS (EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "The Duke of Westminster and Lord Nelson.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fort", "preceding_text": "I do not know.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1351.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-13", "file": "debates1951-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "a025914d7bc12f83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1351.6", "colnum": "1351", "heading": "ELDERLY PERSONS (EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Arnold Gridley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Arnold Gridley", "preceding_text": "they are doing at 70. I hope this is not controversial; at any rate I do not want my constituents to think that at the time of age I have reached they want to see me unemployed. You, Sir, I think are not very much behind me, and no one would suggest for one moment that you are not quite fit both physically and mentally to discharge the onerous and most highly responsible duties that fall upon you.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1351.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-13", "file": "debates1951-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "a025914d7bc12f83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1359.2", "colnum": "1359", "heading": "ELDERLY PERSONS (EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Tom Brown", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Tom Brown", "preceding_text": "alface, many of our men are injured in their early thirties. Many of them are overtaken by industrial diseases such as silicosis, pneumoconiosis, nystagmus—which, I am happy to report, is on the decrease—beat-wrist, beat-elbow, and what the medical profession call subcutaneous cellulitis of the patela of the knee, which in English is beat-knee, and, in ordinary everyday language, housemaid's knee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1359.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-13", "file": "debates1951-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "a025914d7bc12f83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1366.0", "colnum": "1366", "heading": "ELDERLY PERSONS (EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021; \"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Bennett", "preceding_text": "ut if one says to them, \"You are getting deaf,\" they are very indignant. Their wives tell us, \"John is getting a bit deaf. He doesn't like you to know it, but just speak up a bit.\" People will not get spectacles even. Some people become most indignant if one seeks to help them out of a railway carriage. I had a bit of a shock myself when I was in Paris a couple of years ago attending a conference—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1366.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-13", "file": "debates1951-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "a025914d7bc12f83", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1398.4", "colnum": "1398", "heading": "ELDERLY PERSONS (EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McCorquodale", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Two.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McCorquodale", "preceding_text": " imparts into the words he uses, that I for one enjoyed immensely his contribution, as, I am sure, did the whole House. When I listen to the hon. Member I cannot imagine, except from his loyalty to his trade and his union, why he is not really sitting on this side of the House, but I shall not pursue that further. The disappointment to me is that we have had only one speech so far from a Scotsman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-13a.1398.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1467.1", "colnum": "1467", "heading": "MR. ERNEST BEVIN (TRIBUTES)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Herbert Morrison)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Herbert Morrison)", "preceding_text": "th your permission, I am sure that it would be the wish of the House in all quarters that tribute should be paid to the memory of the late Lord Privy Seal, Mr. Ernest Bevin. We all received the news of his passing with a deep sense of loss and of shock, and I am sure that everybody much regrets his death and would wish to convey to Mrs. Bevin and to the family our deepest sympathy and condolences.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1467.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1521.3", "colnum": "1521", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about 1931?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": "That is also rubbish, because the Leader of the Government at the time, Mr. Stanley Baldwin, told the country after the election that he dared not tell the truth at that time; if he had done so, he said, he would have lost the election. They called it \"sealed lips,\" and it has gone down in the history of this country as a disgrace to all Parliamentary traditions. That was in 1935.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1521.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1522.1", "colnum": "1522", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": "That may be so, but I am pointing out that there were people in a certain income-group who, before, could have television-sets and who now will not be able to have them. I would substantiate this point by stating that the Stock Exchange seems to be more or less of my opinion on this question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1522.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1525.1", "colnum": "1525", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He will not be there.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": "I have been speaking to actuaries and chartered accountants who have been studying a problem which should be gone into carefully, and I would recommend a suggestion to the Chancellor for future Budgets. I am sure that his Budget next year will be even more lucid and better than this year's.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1525.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1525.3", "colnum": "1525", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": "give examples to show the absurdity of the present Stamp Duty. Even now, low as the receipts Stamp Duty is, shopkeepers are not putting stamps on these dockets. I have receipts from Selfridge's, Harrod's, and nearly all the big reputable stores in London, which I have kept but have not brought with me because I did not know I should be speaking tonight, and not one of them has a 2d. stamp affixed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1525.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1527.7", "colnum": "1527", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": " I be allowed to draw your attention to a specific case of old age pensioner's anomaly. I was a skilled worker up to last July, 1950, at the Red Bank Manufacturing Company. Measham\"— that is in my area, and, as I have said before, I represent 50,000 people and this is one of them. You remember addressing the workers in the canteen last Election. I was ordered by the doctor to cease work at once.\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1527.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1527.7", "colnum": "1527", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It was the effect of the hon. Member's speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": "ast July, 1950, at the Red Bank Manufacturing Company. Measham\"— that is in my area, and, as I have said before, I represent 50,000 people and this is one of them. You remember addressing the workers in the canteen last Election. I was ordered by the doctor to cease work at once.\"—[ Laughter. ] Why is the Committee laughing because an old age pensioner has been advised by the doctor to cease work?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1527.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1569.1", "colnum": "1569", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Spearman", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What cuts?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Spearman", "preceding_text": "There is a lot about cuts which I proposed to say, but I promised to sit down at five minutes to nine, so I cannot give them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1569.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1570.1", "colnum": "1570", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021; \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "preceding_text": " the Committee to set out some of the extraordinary increases in our bureaucracy, some of the rises in cost of administration, some of the increases in transport charges and some of the apparent—I say apparent—abuses which were mentioned in his speech. I would not myself, and neither would my right hon, or hon. Friends, be ready to regard the speech of my right hon. and gallant Friend as official.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1570.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1570.1", "colnum": "1570", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He is not here.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "preceding_text": "right hon, or hon. Friends, be ready to regard the speech of my right hon. and gallant Friend as official. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021; \"] For the very good reason that I had no contact with my right hon. and gallant Friend before he made it, and that I studied it only after he had made it. As proof of my bona fides I want to say to my right hon. and gallant Friend that much as I admired his speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1570.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1582.1", "colnum": "1582", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. Gaitskell)", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. Gaitskell)", "preceding_text": "y contested my argument, which I mentioned earlier, that by these means we are closing the gap so far as inflationary demand goes. I thought, too, that I had explained the difference between these two types of inflation—the cost inflation and the demand inflation. I thought it was generally accepted—and, if I may say so, the right hon. Member for Saffron Walden seemed to understand it this evening", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1582.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1588.5", "colnum": "1588", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BUDGET PROPOSALS AND ECONOMIC SURVEY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "y saying to me that they think that as Chancellor I should ignore that?—that I should do nothing about it? At a time when the country is being asked to carry a great many burdens that the right hon. Gentleman has been talking of—and he talked, quite fairly, of the rise in prices that is going to affect the lower income people—is he asking me, at the same time, to do nothing about rising dividends?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1588.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1602.3", "colnum": "1602", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SCHOOL MEALS (CHARGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "preceding_text": "I am glad the hon. Gentleman is trying to make himself a little more clear, but he still contradicts himself. I noticed that he said, \"Is there no other way of meeting this charge?\" and suggested we should add 2s. 6d. to family allowances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1602.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1603.1", "colnum": "1603", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SCHOOL MEALS (CHARGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gilbert Longden", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gilbert Longden", "preceding_text": "believe that in her heart of hearts, unless appearances are very deceptive, she believes what she says. During the last few minutes of her speech, I first thought she was dilating again on the old days of Tory misrule, but I do not now think she was. I believe that of all the Prayers that have been moved in recent weeks, very few have been more justified—and I believe they have all been justified—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1603.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1606.1", "colnum": "1606", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SCHOOL MEALS (CHARGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "e ought to be submitted to this House. This is a most vague, indefinite document. In the first amendment of the earlier Order, it twice refers to \"an approved scale of charges for meals,\" but in the second it refers to \"an approved rate.\" I hope that when the Minister of Education replies, he will, for the information of his supporters who have not read the document, tell me who approves the rate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1606.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1606.1", "colnum": "1606", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SCHOOL MEALS (CHARGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": " General Election comes—I hope at an early date—hon. Gentlemen opposite will have to defend their action in having approved an increase in this charge. There is a proposal to increase a charge by an approved rate. Approved by whom? When he replies, I hope that the right hon. Gentleman, who may have an adequate explanation, will tell us what I want to know, which is, who approves the approved rate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1606.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1611.3", "colnum": "1611", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SCHOOL MEALS (CHARGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hardman", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hypocrisy&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hardman", "preceding_text": "n because at present, as has been pointed out, the Minister has no power to increase the price to the consumer above the average cost of food without bringing to this House these amending Regulations. It is perfectly clear that these Regulations sever the approved charge from the cost of food, and are related to the present economic situation of the country and the needs of the defence programme.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1611.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-16", "file": "debates1951-04-16a.xml", "sha256": "16f3d95d3bff7463", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1611.3", "colnum": "1611", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; SCHOOL MEALS (CHARGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hardman", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The children were on holiday.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hardman", "preceding_text": "s a saving of £1 million. The suggestion has been made that this increase will mean a further decline in the number of children taking school meals. There is no evidence whatsoever for that suggestion. It is true that the increase was dated from 1st April, but already we have some data in the Department, and there is no evidence of any decline in the number of children who are taking school meals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-16a.1611.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1633.5", "colnum": "1633", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Only&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snadden", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. Gentleman aware that direct subsidies paid to the whole of agriculture are only £20 million?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1633.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1657.3", "colnum": "1657", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Low", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He will need a diver's suit.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Low", "preceding_text": "Would the right hon. Gentleman have another look into it now?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1657.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1669.1", "colnum": "1669", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATIONAL EXPENDITURE (PRIORITIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ashton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ashton", "preceding_text": "f the Women's Institute give excellent lectures in the country, but occasionally there is overlapping. Perhaps I may mention a case which occurred in a village recently where in one week there were two separate lectures on the arranging of flowers. My wife has had no instruction whatever in the arranging of flowers but she does it admirably. I agree that these things do not amount to a great deal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1669.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1690.0", "colnum": "1690", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATIONAL EXPENDITURE (PRIORITIES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marshall", "preceding_text": "s and from where they should be drawn and brought into the service. Nor can we tell him anything about securing buildings. But what we want to do is to press upon him the urgency of the matter. We need these things now. We do not want to wait two or three years. In most parts of the country one hears complaints of children being kept out of school until they are six or six and a half years of age.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1689.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1691.2", "colnum": "1691", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATIONAL EXPENDITURE (PRIORITIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They have moved the ground.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "n and Cheam (Mr. S. Marshall) has matched entirely the tone of the speeches of the hon. Members who preceded him. I should like to associate myself with the thanks expressed to the hon. Member for Chelmsford (Mr. Ashton) for introducing this Amendment. As one born in the borough of Walthamstow I knew far more about him in his earlier days when he was more familiar with the county ground at Leyton.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1691.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1740.2", "colnum": "1740", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Messer", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why should they not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Messer", "preceding_text": "I would not know. I have never been a criminal. What I do know is that this is infectious. Quite frankly, we could not give this Bill a Second Reading and expect that nobody else will come forward and ask for the same thing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1740.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1743.1", "colnum": "1743", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That was not the language he used.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": "s ago, when he was actually opposing the Bill. I must say that the conclusion to which he rather unexpectedly came at the end of his speech reminded me of some words attributed to my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition when paraphrasing the views of a Labour leader some years ago on another subject. They were: \"The best thing to do is to take the damn thing upstairs and cut its throat.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1743.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1749.1", "colnum": "1749", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pargiter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pargiter", "preceding_text": " discuss de novo —they were no longer discussing the Boundary Commission's proposals—what would be a suitable system of local government, it would be a tragedy if at this stage the House were to say they agreed to a lot of local authorities going forward for county borough status. That is what will happen if we agree in principle that Luton should go forward with her application. In my own county—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1749.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1756.1", "colnum": "1756", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, it was this Parliament.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "I think it was in this Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1756.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1756.3", "colnum": "1756", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "arwickshire as a mere borough. The fact that we possessed a cathedral and a charter enabled us to avoid the thraldom to which the industrial area of Luton is now subject. That is an argument which appeals to me. Nobody denies that on its merits Luton has a fair case to become a county borough. All the argument against is that it would be a loss to somebody else. But that is the only argument used.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1756.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1773.3", "colnum": "1773", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "zard condition that the first big scheme for the reorientation of powers under the Education Act, 1944, had to make allowances for geographical anomalies which existed. I am not going into the question of whether the Education Act should have been preceded by an Act concerned with local government. We all appreciate the difficulties which existed at that time. Coming back to the question of Luton—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1773.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1773.3", "colnum": "1773", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Ilford.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "to grasp this nettle again. What is left to a local authority if it is not to promote its Bill in the way advised by the Minister of Labour who was then Minister of Health? Therefore, we come to the main proposition that the Government must make up its mind on policy. There are many better cases than that of Luton seeking for revision. I know of at least three local authorities in North-West Kent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1773.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1778.1", "colnum": "1778", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Hutchinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Hutchinson", "preceding_text": "y whether he had been advised to what extent the county would be a loser, but he did not venture to go as far as that. The proper place to decide whether Luton should be a county borough or not is not on the Floor of the House but upstairs, before the appropriate committee. I can approach this matter, from a more detached standpoint than I could do when my hon. Friend presented his Bill last year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1778.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1780.0", "colnum": "1780", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "That does not indicate that there is any relaxation in their desire for county borough status.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1780.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1780.1", "colnum": "1780", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LUTON CORPORATION BILL (By Order)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "The only principle which the House has to decide tonight is whether local authorities would be allowed to take steps to put their house, as they think, in order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1780.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-17", "file": "debates1951-04-17a.xml", "sha256": "f69401a666ad31d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1790.1", "colnum": "1790", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING (PRIVATE BUILDING)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lindgren", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lindgren", "preceding_text": " made it three to one. That is the Minister's general practice. Let us take the hon. Gentleman's own constituency. The total number of applicants to rent was 2,082 and the total number of applicants to build 350, a ratio of six to one. If the hon. Gentleman says he was not speaking for the rich, he was asking for preference for 350 people over the other 2,082, irrespective of their relative needs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-17a.1790.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1809.0", "colnum": "1809", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EAST AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": "Does not the right hon. Gentleman realise that this is a matter of the very greatest importance? In the debate on 5th March he said that a satisfactory agreement had been reached with the employees, but in fact no talks started until 16th March, when the chairman of the corporation went to East Africa. All the three-year-contract men have repudiated the agreement—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1809.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1809.2", "colnum": "1809", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EAST AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman has not yet realised what the Question is about. It is not a question of consultation only with the three-year men. There was no consultation with anybody.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1809.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1819.2", "colnum": "1819", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARMED FORCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "They cannot be considered as special favours in any sense of the term. The aircraft were provided some considerable time ago—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1819.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1854.5", "colnum": "1854", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": " very short space of time after we had dealt with the original Motion. The Bill was held up for some reason. It would be interesting to know whether, for instance, it was held up on behalf of the Attorney-General for Northern Ireland. The main point is that in that interval of time Mr. MacManaway himself made a number of pronouncements on the conduct of this House. If we are to indemnify a Member—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1854.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1859.2", "colnum": "1859", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Hugh O'Neill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He was not a Member.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Hugh O'Neill", "preceding_text": "You ruled just now, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Belfast, West (Mr. Teevan), that it would not be in order to discuss anything Mr. MacManaway said or did after he ceased to be a Member of this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1859.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1859.2", "colnum": "1859", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Hugh O'Neill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Hugh O'Neill", "preceding_text": "You ruled just now, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Belfast, West (Mr. Teevan), that it would not be in order to discuss anything Mr. MacManaway said or did after he ceased to be a Member of this House. [HON. MEMBERS: \"He was not a Member.\"] That is what Mr. Deputy-Speaker said. I submit that what you obviously meant—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1859.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1861.0", "colnum": "1861", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. These matters are really quite remote—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1861.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1861.3", "colnum": "1861", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "I think we have really heard enough about that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1861.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1863.0", "colnum": "1863", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": " refer the House for one moment to a report contained in the \"Belfast Telegraph,\" which sets out the fact, first of all, that Mr. MacManaway had heard from me that he was possibly disqualified. Then it goes on to say this: While it has not been finally decided whether he is eligible to go to Westminster, the probability is that, if successful in the contest, Parliament would pass an Indemnity Act.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1861.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1879.1", "colnum": "1879", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "ith a legal argument, but the precedents are perfectly clear. There was the case to which my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Hornchurch referred on the previous occasion, the Launceston case, where the Conservative candidate said that anyone could shoot rabbits free on his estate, and made his announcement a few days before the election. Certainly, it was rather an alteration of his habits.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1879.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1879.1", "colnum": "1879", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "ying, \"The candidate is disqualified because of his corruption,\" before the vote took place. There was considerable argument as to whether that meant that the second man should be returned. There it was held that as the corruption was not fully known, although notice was given, he did not quite come within that category. It has been held time after time that if you are disqualified from the start—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1879.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1887.4", "colnum": "1887", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "I also attended as many sittings as I could of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. I want to make it quite clear to this House that Mr. MacManaway acted absolutely bona fide in thinking that he was eligible. Doubts have been thrown upon this matter. He believed that he was eligible. He had the most important opinion given by the Attorney-General and the Solicitor-General in the year 1869—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1887.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1888.3", "colnum": "1888", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "shment Act came into force on 1st January, 1871, the disability imposed by the Act of 1801 no longer existed. It was largely due to this most important opinion that the Reverend Godfrey MacManaway believed that he was eligible. I have been reproached for going back to 1869, although that was absolutely relevant. But Mr. MacManaway had also a legal opinion in writing from a most distinguished K.C.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1888.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1889.2", "colnum": "1889", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Who gave it?", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "Therefore, fortified by this very important legal opinion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1889.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1889.4", "colnum": "1889", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who by?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "rictures have been made upon the fact that the reverend gentleman voted on a certain occasion, which is stated to have been in September, after the question of his eligibility had been referred to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. That is a fact. The Judicial Committee had not reported; their findings had not come before this House, and therefore the Rev. Godfrey MacManaway was advised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1889.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1889.4", "colnum": "1889", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who by?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "t the reverend gentleman voted on a certain occasion, which is stated to have been in September, after the question of his eligibility had been referred to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. That is a fact. The Judicial Committee had not reported; their findings had not come before this House, and therefore the Rev. Godfrey MacManaway was advised—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Who by?\"]—he was advised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1889.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1890.1", "colnum": "1890", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "lence and without interrupting anybody. As I say, that is proved by the fact that when I brought Mr. MacManaway into the Speaker's Office and obtained permission for him to speak, he was allowed by the Speaker, when the Bill was brought forward accepting the decision of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council, to take his seat and address this House; he was a Member of this House, and as such—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1890.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1890.1", "colnum": "1890", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REVEREND J. G. MacMANAWAY'S INDEMNITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "e of the Privy Council, to take his seat and address this House; he was a Member of this House, and as such—[ Interruption. ] He had not then been disqualified; no Bill had been passed. An hon. Gentleman called him by his name, but he was still entitled to be called the hon. Member for Belfast, West. He was allowed to speak. Therefore, in the judgment of Mr. Speaker, he was a Member of this House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1890.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1930.1", "colnum": "1930", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIME SUBSIDY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Snadden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snadden", "preceding_text": "I want to add a word in support of what has been said, particularly with regard to Scotland. I see that the Parliamentary Secretary has just gone out of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1930.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1936.3", "colnum": "1936", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIME SUBSIDY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dye", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dye", "preceding_text": " to the subsidy. But if, now, instead of being delivered by 1st April a date in May is put in the Order by some means or other contracts entered into will be carried out and farmers, already harassed by arrears of work, will add to their work by spreading more lime, or having it spread for them. Surely, as soon as the farmer can get on his land he will get on with the essential job of cultivating.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1936.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1936.3", "colnum": "1936", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LIME SUBSIDY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dye", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And stop it raining?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dye", "preceding_text": "is type of subsidy to remain a permanent feature of British agriculture. Quite rightly, such subsidies were introduced as incentives to do the right thing by the land and to produce the crops and stock which the country needs. But we cannot go on for ever with a system of subsidies to induce farmers to do a certain thing. Good farmers ought to do the right thing, whether there is a subsidy or not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1936.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1957.2", "colnum": "1957", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPET INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wool.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "the measure of the problem today and, of course, as the hon. Member for Rotherham (Mr. Jack Jones) has been interjecting impatiently for the past few moments, this difficulty arises very largely from the precipitous rise in the cost of raw materials during the last three years. The carpet industry is peculiar in this respect. Today, 80 per cent. of the cost of a carpet is made up of raw materials.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1957.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1963.1", "colnum": "1963", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPET INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pryde", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pryde", "preceding_text": "The English are said to have a very pretty opinion of themselves and the hon. Member for Kidderminster (Mr. Nabarro) is no exception. I am sorry to inform the hon. Member that some of his statements are not quite facts because facts are true, and that some of his statements were quite inaccurate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1963.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1966.1", "colnum": "1966", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPET INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "preceding_text": " craft is to be saved and be developed in the way it should be as a very valuable British industry, both for export sales and home consumption as well, the Government have got to do something about it. It is their responsibility; the carpet manufacturers are doing their best in trying to renovate their machinery and introduce new methods and the craftsmen in the industry are also doing their best.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1966.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-18", "file": "debates1951-04-18a.xml", "sha256": "b5a834ca48fb0ff2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1968.5", "colnum": "1968", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CARPET INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brook", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He was wool gathering.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brook", "preceding_text": "etween the rise in the value of raw wool and the Government control of prices. Three weeks ago, a Prayer was moved in this House for the annulment of an Order which had been made to help the interests of the carpet industry regarding prices. On that night I listened and looked very carefully for the hon. Member for Kidderminster, but he was not present. I hoped to hear his voice raised in protest—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-18a.1968.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.1994.6", "colnum": "1994", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CORONATION STONE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. and learned Friend aware that apart from regarding this act as an act of vandalism, a lot of people in Scotland regard it as an attempt to recover stolen property? Is he aware that if he had prosecuted, the defendants would have been admirably defended by the hon. Member for Nelson and Scone—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.1994.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.1996.9", "colnum": "1996", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FIRE STATION, COVENTRY", "cue_speaker": "Miss Burton", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Burton", "preceding_text": "May I press my hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.1996.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2007.3", "colnum": "2007", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE ARRANGEMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "We are most certainly a Pacific Power and it would not have been unwelcome to us if we had been included in the proposed pact—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2007.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2009.3", "colnum": "2009", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE ARRANGEMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "That does not represent the true Commonwealth spirit—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2009.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2009.5", "colnum": "2009", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE ARRANGEMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman said he has \"indicated.\" What does he mean? Did he ask or did he not ask?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2009.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2010.3", "colnum": "2010", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE ARRANGEMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Steward", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Steward", "preceding_text": "That it ought to be liquidated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2010.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2010.4", "colnum": "2010", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE ARRANGEMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "—distinct from that of some hon. Members opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2010.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2010.4", "colnum": "2010", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE ARRANGEMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "—distinct from that of some hon. Members opposite—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]—as can be heard. Some of their conception is part of the old imperialist colonial spirit. I must make it absolutely clear that our conception—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2010.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2024.1", "colnum": "2024", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Minister does not know.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I was coming to all that, but I was talking of the coastal waters. I ask what that means because the Eastern Atlantic like the Western is under Supreme American command. It is the coastal waters alone that are reserved for Great Britain and I am asking if they end at the 100-fathom line.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2024.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2026.1", "colnum": "2026", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "It is rather difficult to work out these rule-of-three sums.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2026.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2027.1", "colnum": "2027", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "The Parliamentary Secretary is a subordinate Minister of the Government and he should not interrupt from the Front Bench. We have not let our Mercantile Marine diminish. On the contrary, here are the figures.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2027.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2028.4", "colnum": "2028", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Get out.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "preceding_text": "I beg to withdraw that statement and to apologise but, of course, the right hon. Gentleman has been extremely provocative.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2028.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2028.9", "colnum": "2028", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Is it in order for the right hon. Gentleman to refer to an hon. Member of the Committee as somewhat subordinate to another—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2028.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2029.0", "colnum": "2029", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "The Chairman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "I do not think any procedural objection can be taken to the right hon. Gentleman's reference to the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2029.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2036.1", "colnum": "2036", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "preceding_text": "discussion on the subject of this appointment. I think that the right hon. Gentleman has done the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation and this country a real disservice by the tone of his speech today. I am equally certain that there are many hon. Gentlemen on the other side of the House who do not share his views or his general approach to the problem of the organisation of North Atlantic defence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2036.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2036.1", "colnum": "2036", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "preceding_text": "litary committee, the Standing Group and so on are in fact necessary, both politically and military. Here we come to one of the most important aspects of the whole organisation—the system of the military committee and the Standing Group—and it is rather surprising that the right hon. Gentleman, in making his precise survey of the set-up, did not name the Standing Group in the course of his speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2036.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2042.1", "colnum": "2042", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Surgeon Lieut.-Commander Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Surgeon Lieut.-Commander Bennett", "preceding_text": "ut his friends, who had told him that they were surprised at the way in which there had been an explosion in this country on this subject. My own belief is that throughout America the explosion was very largely interpreted as a welcome sign of vitality in a country which they largely suspected of becoming a pensioner upon them. They are proud to have their supreme Ally showing signs of life again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2042.1", "colnum": "2042", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Surgeon Lieut.-Commander Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Surgeon Lieut.-Commander Bennett", "preceding_text": "eat deal of good by bringing it into the open and hammering it out instead of doing it in committees whose proceedings might not otherwise see very much of the light of day. If this command is set up, what is the position of the Admiralty going to be? It will be utterly ludicrous if the Admiralty is to have the privilege of providing the ships and absolutely no say in what is to be done with them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2042.1", "colnum": "2042", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Surgeon Lieut.-Commander Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It will.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Surgeon Lieut.-Commander Bennett", "preceding_text": "very much of the light of day. If this command is set up, what is the position of the Admiralty going to be? It will be utterly ludicrous if the Admiralty is to have the privilege of providing the ships and absolutely no say in what is to be done with them. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] The orders will not go through the Admiralty, and how can it possibly take that? The Admiralty should run its own ships.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2046.1", "colnum": "2046", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "t say that I cannot find very much to bite on in his speech, except to say that he is obviously thinking in water-tight compartments and working in parochial front gardens, instead of looking at the things collectively. But, this afternoon, I am after bigger fish. I am sorry that the right hon. Member for Woodford (Mr. Churchill) is not in his place. I warned him that I was going to deal with him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2046.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2046.1", "colnum": "2046", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "made, of the many which he has made, as regards both its content and its time. As he has done often during the last six years, he has crashed into a subject like a bull in a china shop. He had his Children's Hour at Question Time and then he forced an untimely debate with a lack of knowledge and understanding which is incredible in a politician of his past standing, with no consideration whatever—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2046.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2046.1", "colnum": "2046", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "r United States Allies, our other Allies and ourselves, and that this was the time when no irresponsible person was required to throw a spanner in the works, which is just what he has done. Thirdly, as the White Paper is not complete, the right hon. Gentleman should have waited until it was. There was no urgency for this debate. There is no question of having had to wait because of the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2046.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2048.1", "colnum": "2048", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the Wars of the Roses?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "n and able to justify their actions up to the hilt as regards both the Organisation and the British commands. Now let hon. Members opposite laugh that off. The trouble with the right hon. Gentleman is that at 70 plus he is still thinking of the horse era of 50 years ago—he himself referred to horses, but he does not know one end of a horse from the other—instead of the guided missile age of today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2048.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2048.1", "colnum": "2048", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Everything.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": " he does not know one end of a horse from the other—instead of the guided missile age of today. [An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the Wars of the Roses?\"] The right hon. Gentleman is still thinking of containing a non-existent fleet in the North Sea and of dealing only with a couple of Allies instead of a dozen. The most important question to ask this afternoon is: What is wrong with this Organisation?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2048.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2048.1", "colnum": "2048", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is wrong with it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": " is still thinking of containing a non-existent fleet in the North Sea and of dealing only with a couple of Allies instead of a dozen. The most important question to ask this afternoon is: What is wrong with this Organisation? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Everything.\"] The answer is, \"Nothing.\" The second question to ask is: What is wrong with the White Paper? The answer again is \"Nothing, with one exception.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2048.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2048.1", "colnum": "2048", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "itials. If he had been the Prime Minister—fortunately for this country and the world, he has not been, otherwise we might have been at war with Russia—more than likely we should have had practically the same Organisation, and practically the same White Paper. What the right hon. Gentleman fails to appreciate is that, whereas he previously dealt with two Allies in war, which was comparatively easy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2048.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2050.6", "colnum": "2050", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "ly always been in opposition to the admirals, and often at loggerheads with them, but his head has usually been the loggerhead. Apparently, he would now like to stir up dissension among the admirals against the Labour Government, as he did when he was First Lord of the Admiralty in a Liberal Government before the first war, and have the Tory Party exploiting this dissension as he did at that time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2050.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2053.1", "colnum": "2053", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "mirals from 1911 to 1914. I have selected numerous examples but I will not inflict them on the Committee on this occasion because of the time. In the early days of the first war the right hon. Gentleman was defending Antwerp as a soldier—no doubt with a pair of spurs in his pocket looking for a horse—instead of being at the Admiralty taking charge of the Navy. Again I know what I am talking about.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2053.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2053.1", "colnum": "2053", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": " right hon. Gentleman was defending Antwerp as a soldier—no doubt with a pair of spurs in his pocket looking for a horse—instead of being at the Admiralty taking charge of the Navy. Again I know what I am talking about. [ Laughter. ] This is the best public meeting I have had, because I get all the applause before hon. Members opposite hear what I have to say. Again I know what I am talking about—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2053.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2055.1", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "If we do not do that here, Sir Charles—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2055.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2055.1", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "If we do not do that here, Sir Charles—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"] There is no question of the Opposition taking charge of the debate. If there is any question, Sir Charles, in deference to your remark that we do not say those things here, I will qualify the statement—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2055.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2065.1", "colnum": "2065", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Reid", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Reid", "preceding_text": "ord told us that the U-boat menace must be controlled from Britain. That may be so, but is there anything in this scheme, as in all big administrative civil or military organisations by delegation, which would prevent the U-boat menace from being controlled from Britain? There is an Eastern Atlantic Command under a British admiral there, and if any powers and responsibilities have to be delegated—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2065.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2067.3", "colnum": "2067", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The right hon. Gentleman cannot find it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "bles and this modified enthusiasm for the right hon. Gentleman's utterances. Therefore, I make no complaint. But as I say, it must not be assumed that there is complete unity in the Conservative ranks. My hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Hull, East (Commander Pursey), quoted from the \"Daily Telegraph\" of all papers—no supporter of the Labour Party or of the Labour Government. This quotation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2067.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2067.3", "colnum": "2067", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "sumed that there is complete unity in the Conservative ranks. My hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Hull, East (Commander Pursey), quoted from the \"Daily Telegraph\" of all papers—no supporter of the Labour Party or of the Labour Government. This quotation—[HON. MEMBERS: \"The right hon. Gentleman cannot find it.\"] Hon. Members had better listen. If they do not read the \"Daily Telegraph,\" we do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2067.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2069.3", "colnum": "2069", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ircumstances; and here I would like to make this comment. The right hon. Gentleman opposite spoke about the last war, and, of course, nobody is more entitled to speak about it, with his vast experience, and, if I may say so with great respect and sincerity, his high qualities. Of course, we have a barge with the right hon. Gentleman now and then, but we never seek to depreciate his high qualities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2069.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2071.3", "colnum": "2071", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "an after it has happened, and that is precisely what we are doing. I am not blaming the right hon. Gentleman, or the Government which he blamed many times before the war, when he sat over there. I am not blaming the right hon. Gentleman, but if Governments before the war—and perhaps all parties are to blame in this regard—had planned as we are planning now, perhaps the war would not have occurred.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2071.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2071.3", "colnum": "2071", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "stantial arguments. Naturally, I do. That is what hon. Gentlemen of the Opposition want; certainly, the right hon. Gentleman opposite asked for it, and so did others. I will not attempt to enter into a discussion with the right hon. Gentleman on strategic matters. He is much better informed than I am; I am a mere layman, except that I would say that he is not the only naval expert in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2071.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2076.3", "colnum": "2076", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"HOW far?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I thought that was understood—the Channel and a strip of the coast. I am not quite sure of the technical description. Right round all our coast was always regarded as Home Command.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2076.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2077.0", "colnum": "2077", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "void a multiplicity of committees we appointed a Supreme Commander. I should have thought that that was right up the street of the right hon. Member for Woodford, but he appears to object to it. Some reference has been made to the Mediterranean. I am extremely sorry that I am not in a position to give the Committee full information about this matter because this is still the subject of discussion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2077.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2078.3", "colnum": "2078", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why should you give it to them?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ake political capital out of it and one can use it as a stick to beat the Government, but defence is not built up in that way. One only creates embarrassment. I know that in his heart the right hon. Gentleman does not want to do that; and who would accuse him of doing that in the sphere of defence? I offered to discuss the matter with him and to give the Opposition all the information they wanted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2078.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2078.3", "colnum": "2078", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ss the matter with him and to give the Opposition all the information they wanted. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Why should you give it to them?\"] I can give the reason. The reason is that it has been common form in this House for many a long year for the Government of the day to meet the Opposition and disclose matters, which are not ordinarily disclosed to the public, relating to defence and foreign policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2078.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2078.3", "colnum": "2078", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Suez Canal?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " matter about Opposition criticism? What we want is to do the job effectively. In his remarks he sought to denigrate the British Navy—not traditionally, of course. He did not do that. One would not expect him to do that. But he sought to denigrate it numerically. He talked as if we had nothing at our command. We have a very strong Navy and if anybody tried any tricks they would soon discover that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2078.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2079.1", "colnum": "2079", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NORTH ATLANTIC (SUPREME COMMANDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "circumstances, I feel bound to move a reduction, especially as he said that there was so much division on these matters on our side of the Committee. I should be very glad indeed if I could do it without impoverishing the right hon. Gentleman. I took some advice on the matter and I understand that in a Vote of this size perhaps I ought to move for a reduction of the subhead for salaries by £1,000.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2079.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2105.1", "colnum": "2105", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; POST OFFICE SERVICES (INCREASED CHARGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Joynson-Hicks", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Joynson-Hicks", "preceding_text": " them off against the profits which he makes on other accounts, such as the 2&#x00BD;d. post; or else he can raise the price of the services which are not profitable so as to make them break even. If he does that he must also reduce the price of the services which are at present giving him a profit and upon which he is carrying the services which are running at a loss. He cannot have it both ways—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2105.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2127.1", "colnum": "2127", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; POST OFFICE SERVICES (INCREASED CHARGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Both.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "preceding_text": "s predecessor comes to the Box and whistles in an opposite direction. Then the Postmaster-General was being criticised for having allowed the Chancellor of the Exchequer to make an announcement about increases in postal charges. Tonight the right hon. Gentleman complains that the Postmaster-General has made an announcement about increases in the postal charges. Which way do the Opposition want it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2127.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2127.3", "colnum": "2127", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; POST OFFICE SERVICES (INCREASED CHARGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is true.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "preceding_text": "That is the mechanics of it, but we are talking now about announcements and of the state- ment made in the Committee. I am dealing with the charge that I indulged in what was called a \"curtain-raiser Budget\" for the purpose of easing the Chancellor's position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2127.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2128.1", "colnum": "2128", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; POST OFFICE SERVICES (INCREASED CHARGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Estimated.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "preceding_text": " by other Departments to the Post Office to the value of £7,176,000, for which no payment is made, nor does it include the £23,500,000 worth of services that the Post Office provides for other Departments without any payment being made. So there is net against the Post Office £16&#x00BD; million of free service which it pays, or which it makes, over and above the free service made available to it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2128.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2140.1", "colnum": "2140", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STATUTORY INSTRUMENT No. 413 (MR. SPEAKER'S RULING)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "They must.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Renton", "preceding_text": "Arising out of your Ruling, Mr. Speaker. If the Government immediately accept your Ruling and declare so—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2140.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2141.6", "colnum": "2141", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STATUTORY INSTRUMENT No. 413 (MR. SPEAKER'S RULING)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "What do you mean by that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2141.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-19", "file": "debates1951-04-19a.xml", "sha256": "b587f742e16f6220", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2141.8", "colnum": "2141", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STATUTORY INSTRUMENT No. 413 (MR. SPEAKER'S RULING)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. May I say that hon. Members on this side of the House are getting a little tired of the insolence and bad manners of right hon. Gentlemen opposite?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-19a.2141.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-20", "file": "debates1951-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "dd003f910d95f382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2157.0", "colnum": "2157", "heading": "SCARCE METALS (RESTRICTIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Arthur Salter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Arthur Salter", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman has made what is obviously a grave statement. It is the more grave if we regard it as a supplement to the statements with regard to other materials which was made by the President of the Board of Trade on Monday, and it is perhaps also more grave—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2157.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-20", "file": "debates1951-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "dd003f910d95f382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2220.1", "colnum": "2220", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NEW STREETS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How many?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "ch time as suited his convenience to carry out those street works which were not the obligation of the local authority. In the meantime, there came the little matter of the Second World War. It is important to bear in mind an interesting addition to the petty cash of the private builder before the war. Suppose he built a number of houses in 1937 and derived from the owner-occupier £40, £50 or £60—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2220.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-20", "file": "debates1951-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "dd003f910d95f382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2232.5", "colnum": "2232", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE (AMENDMENT) (No. 1) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And Northern Ireland.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": " person works for a man and lives in, he can be taken, another says he cannot. I am seeking in this subsection to bring about some clarification of the present position. The intention of the Bill is good. It really is not as sinister as some hon. Gentlemen appear to think. If they have any constructive points of substance to make, preferably dealing with England, Wales and Scotland, in that order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2232.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-20", "file": "debates1951-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "dd003f910d95f382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2233.3", "colnum": "2233", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE (AMENDMENT) (No. 1) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Surely not the Tories.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": "y of the cars on the road at its disposal. That is less the case today than it has ever been. I think that we can trust the Labour or Liberal voters, certainly in my constituency, to get into the Tory cars in reasonable quantities. I would even go so far as to say that I think the Tories, again so long as their quantity is reasonable, would tolerate that. I am bound to say that in my constituency—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2233.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-20", "file": "debates1951-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "dd003f910d95f382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2238.1", "colnum": "2238", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE (AMENDMENT) (No. 1) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I am not interested in whether there are more Conservative votes or not. It is obvious that we do not know whether the person riding in the car intends to vote for us or not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2238.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-20", "file": "debates1951-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "dd003f910d95f382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2238.1", "colnum": "2238", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE (AMENDMENT) (No. 1) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He said, 'Make them walk'.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "ee that they will vote for the man in whose car they are riding. I am sure hon. Members opposite would agree that it is desirable that we should have a heavy poll. When the hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland (Mr. Grimond) said that certain voters had not turned up at the election, an hon. Member opposite commented, \"I would make them go.\" All I would say is that that is typical of the Socialists.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2238.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-20", "file": "debates1951-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "dd003f910d95f382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2240.3", "colnum": "2240", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE (AMENDMENT) (No. 1) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Six miles? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "It certainly comes from the Liberal Party, and it comes also from Disraeli; but it also applies to the Socialist Party today. All I am saying is that there are in my constituency and in North Lincolnshire polling booths that are long distances apart; and people have to walk to vote. It would astonish hon. Members to see them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2240.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-20", "file": "debates1951-04-20a.xml", "sha256": "dd003f910d95f382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2241.2", "colnum": "2241", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE (AMENDMENT) (No. 1) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "The Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Geoffrey de Freitas)", "preceding_text": "I intervene early to make it clear from the outset that I do not share the view of hon. Members of the Opposition that this is an innocent little Bill. It is a Bill to give advantage electorally to the Conservative Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-20a.2241.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-23", "file": "debates1951-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "7be82df84ceec21e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.5.5", "colnum": "5", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "Can the Parliamentary Secretary say how he reconciles that statement with the assurance given by the Foreign Secretary that the Government accepted the decision of the House on this issue?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.5.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-23", "file": "debates1951-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "7be82df84ceec21e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.34.3", "colnum": "34", "heading": "MR. ANEURIN BEVAN (STATEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Aneurin Bevan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Aneurin Bevan", "preceding_text": " said in his Budget speech that we have no longer any hope of restraining inflation. The cost of living has already gone up by several points since the middle of last year, and it is going up again. Therefore, it is no use pretending that the Budget is just, merely because it gives a few shillings to old age pensioners, when rising prices immediately begin to take the few shillings away from them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.34.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-23", "file": "debates1951-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "7be82df84ceec21e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.34.3", "colnum": "34", "heading": "MR. ANEURIN BEVAN (STATEMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Aneurin Bevan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Aneurin Bevan", "preceding_text": " did. Whilst they were sleeping he stole £100 million a year from the National Insurance Fund. Of course I know that in the same Budget speech the Chancellor of the Exchequer said that he had already taken account of it as savings. Of course he had, so that the re-armament of Great Britain is financed out of the contributions that the workers have paid into the Fund in order to protect themselves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.34.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-23", "file": "debates1951-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "7be82df84ceec21e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.120.2", "colnum": "120", "heading": "RAILWAY FREIGHT CHARGES (INCREASES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Disgraceful.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Champion", "preceding_text": "5s. to £5 18s. I compared the figures with those for guards. Such promotion is given only after long service. I found that the railway guard receives in his first year £5 9s. a week, in his fourth year £5 18s. With the recent increases he will go in his fifth and subsequent years to £6 2s.—for a job requiring considerable skill, experience, and the acceptance of responsibility for the whole train.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.120.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-23", "file": "debates1951-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "7be82df84ceec21e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.139.3", "colnum": "139", "heading": "RAILWAY FREIGHT CHARGES (INCREASES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "will wake up and notice that there are some differences in the world of 1954 compared with 1951. They will find that in the period railway rates have gone up, and for the purposes of their scheme it will be necessary to bring road rates up by the same amount. Thus, on top of this delicate mechanism which they have worked out, they will have to impose a crazy superstructure of a flat-rate increase.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.139.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-23", "file": "debates1951-04-23a.xml", "sha256": "7be82df84ceec21e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.143.1", "colnum": "143", "heading": "RAILWAY FREIGHT CHARGES (INCREASES)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Barnes)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Barnes)", "preceding_text": " commodity adds to the difficulties of industry; but I assert without fear of contradiction that transport and railway charges have not been the motivating factor which has increased the price level in this country. Every increase in railway charges has followed a heavy and general rise in commodity prices. In not one instance in the past 11 years have railway rates stimulated increases in prices.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-23a.143.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-24", "file": "debates1951-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "983f7a3766b03cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.275.5", "colnum": "275", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Morgan", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Morgan", "preceding_text": "ore spent on preventive and curative services. Health means money, and when the cost of it has to be met I am in favour of it being met out of the public purse. Everybody contributes according to his means. When certain diseases are selected for special treatment, the question arises whether one is justified in taking a certain benefit or a certain failure of the human frame for special treatment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.275.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-24", "file": "debates1951-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "983f7a3766b03cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.287.1", "colnum": "287", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": " of dealing with this matter. It is a Committee point, and no doubt the House will wish to go into it further on the Committee stage. I am sorry that the Government have had to introduce this thoroughly miserable Bill, miserable with the exception of that gilding of the pill in the shape of the Clause about tuberculosis patients, which was apparently included in the Bill to make it more palatable.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.287.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-24", "file": "debates1951-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "983f7a3766b03cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.293.1", "colnum": "293", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I agree that there are some things—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.293.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-24", "file": "debates1951-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "983f7a3766b03cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.319.1", "colnum": "319", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "preceding_text": " strange bed fellows tonight. It is obvious that the majority of the Tory Party are with him on this matter. It also seems that my right hon. Friend the Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Bevan) has done a bit of conversion on the other side, because the hon. Member for Enfield, West (Mr. Iain MacLeod), and the hon. Member for Holland with Boston (Mr. Butcher) have a certain sympathy for his point of view.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.319.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-24", "file": "debates1951-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "983f7a3766b03cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.326.1", "colnum": "326", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "or Bermondsey (Mr. Mellish) most eloquently advanced the claims of Rotherhithe for a sanatorium as a place suitable for treatment of tuberculous patients; and with that singular power he has of giving a side kick against people who have no quarrel with him at all he landed a kick at the Rhondda Valley. I saw no reason for that as I see no reason why the Rhondda should not treat tuberculosis cases—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.326.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-24", "file": "debates1951-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "983f7a3766b03cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.328.1", "colnum": "328", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "vices or even of positive hostility to them, I will say that that was introduced by a Tory Government, and, although I do not wish to raise a discordant note at this stage, I will add that the chief speaker against it was Sir Stafford Cripps, and that, in the Division against the Bill, the present Prime Minister followed him into the Lobby. I regret that, but we all come to fall from time to time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.328.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-24", "file": "debates1951-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "983f7a3766b03cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.337.0", "colnum": "337", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "ecided movement towards the control, or, at any rate, the better control, of prescribing, mainly by the recommendations of the joint committee, which is now usually referred to as the Cohen Committee. Several Committee points were made during the debate, mainly on the Assistance Board, upon which we shall be glad, naturally, to afford opportunities for discussion and, perhaps, further information.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.337.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-24", "file": "debates1951-04-24a.xml", "sha256": "983f7a3766b03cc6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.347.2", "colnum": "347", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Angus Maude", "preceding_text": " not drafted the Money Resolution with the intention of excluding Amendments on the Committee stage. Yet it might so happen that, by a strange coincidence, it would have that effect. I wonder if the right hon. Gentleman would be prepared to be a little more specific and to give an undertaking that the Government will do everything in their power to facilitate the discussion on the Committee stage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-24a.347.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.383.2", "colnum": "383", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COMMONWEALTH (ATLANTIC PACT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I would not go as far as that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.383.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.392.1", "colnum": "392", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE ARRANGEMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "preceding_text": "I do not think that he did say that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.392.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.409.1", "colnum": "409", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "h courtesy with that good Scottish virtue of a high regard for cleanliness, and we shall retain the people who come to our country. Like the hon. and gallant Member, I share a great affection for the counties north of Inverness. At the risk of promoting a tremendous argument, I would say that the loveliest county in Great Britain is Western Ross, but I am bound to warn the hon. and gallant Member—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.409.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.504.2", "colnum": "504", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "wool cheque is being used for development, it should be allowed to be ploughed back into the land and not be taken away in the form of extra taxation. It is extra taxation which is killing the Highlands. Taxation is getting a great deal higher than ever it has been, and it has been intensified lately, notably by the 66&#x2154; per cent. Purchase Tax which was complained of by several hon. Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.504.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.509.1", "colnum": "509", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for Scotland (Mr. Thomas Fraser)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Come on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for Scotland (Mr. Thomas Fraser)", "preceding_text": "and other people in the Highland area simply because they happen to be in the Highland area. They did not say that before. We wonder if this is now the Tory Party policy. We have never heard of it before as Tory Party policy, and I doubt very much indeed whether the right hon. and gallant Gentleman would now stand up and say, \"Yes, I was speaking for the Tory Party and putting forward its policy.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.509.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.515.4", "colnum": "515", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "ure that it would have been a very different one from some that we have heard. Or he might have said. \"There is only so much cheese in the country. We can only see ahead a certain distance. But instead of dropping it from three to two ounces we might drop it from three to 2&#x00BD; ounces for a certain time and for the rest of the time have it at 1&#x00BD; ounces to cover the stocks which we have.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.515.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.521.3", "colnum": "521", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where is the cheese?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "re the Order to annul was introduced, to the level of two ounces, to which it was reduced by that Order and which it is again proposed to reduce it by the Order now before the House. There was an express Ministerial pledge, and it seems to me, that it is a matter a good deal more important than even an ounce of cheese that Ministerial undertakings given at that Box should be scrupulously honoured.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.521.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.525.1", "colnum": "525", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "Miss Burton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Burton", "preceding_text": "s information was understandable even to the Opposition. There was only sufficient cheese in the country to honour a two-ounce ration. It seems to me that in raising this Prayer tonight the Opposition have reduced politics to a \"Gilbert and Sullivanism\"—and it is time the public knew it. The Order refers to fats, cheese and tea—eggs and meat are not mentioned; and I will confine myself to cheese.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.525.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.526.1", "colnum": "526", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "Miss Burton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the cheese?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Burton", "preceding_text": "I know that I would rather have as the Minister of Food my right hon. Friend who is on the Treasury Bench than the former Minister who is quoted by the Opposition and who had the benefit of Lend-Lease during the war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.526.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.529.1", "colnum": "529", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": " grocers and cheesemongers. The right hon. and gallant Gentleman was kind enough to give the Foreign Secretary notice that he intended to raise the question of what my right hon. Friend said when the Prayer was carried by the House on 9th April. It is quite clear tonight, from what has already been said by the Opposition, that there was, of course, more than one alternative open to the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.529.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-25", "file": "debates1951-04-25a.xml", "sha256": "ff64f0e013aa82f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.529.1", "colnum": "529", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHEESE RATION", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "n was kind enough to give the Foreign Secretary notice that he intended to raise the question of what my right hon. Friend said when the Prayer was carried by the House on 9th April. It is quite clear tonight, from what has already been said by the Opposition, that there was, of course, more than one alternative open to the Government. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Yes. The Government could have resigned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-25a.529.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-26", "file": "debates1951-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "5c494047c0989c35", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.572.2", "colnum": "572", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; GOLD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Douglas Jay)", "preceding_text": "The reply is: It would not be in the public interest to give details of the disposition of our gold holdings.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.572.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-26", "file": "debates1951-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "5c494047c0989c35", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.573.0", "colnum": "573", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; GOLD RESERVES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. J. Taylor", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Is it in order, Sir, for the hon. Member for Jarrow (Mr. Fernyhough) to cast aspersions on the character of my hon. Friend the Member for Orpington (Sir W. Smithers)? Should he not be called upon to withdraw?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.572.12"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-26", "file": "debates1951-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "5c494047c0989c35", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.583.0", "colnum": "583", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL INSURANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Douglas Marshall", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is the same thing.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Douglas Marshall", "preceding_text": "What is the expectation of life of a woman at 65?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.583.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-26", "file": "debates1951-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "5c494047c0989c35", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.585.1", "colnum": "585", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL INSURANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "preceding_text": "aken into account in fixing the amount of supplementation in future. How far this will affect the income of a man or woman in receipt of supplementation will depend on the scales of assistance in force when our new pension rates take effect. As the House knows, assistance scales are a matter for the National Assistance Board in the first place, and I cannot make a definite statement at the moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.585.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-26", "file": "debates1951-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "5c494047c0989c35", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.630.4", "colnum": "630", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL INSURANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "I cannot give way. I am standing in the way of others who wish to follow me, and I have no desire to take up a disproportionate amount of time. The point which we are now discussing is not really important.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.630.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-26", "file": "debates1951-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "5c494047c0989c35", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.692.7", "colnum": "692", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ONE-WAY STREET, WESTMINSTER", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "opinion. They made a decision and had not the courage to go back on it. They said, \"We disagree with the proposal of the hon. Gentleman the Member for Croydon, East,\" but never submitted any argument at any time. If they have, a note must have been taken of it. If it was presented in writing or was an oral report, there must have been a note. I challenge the right hon. Gentleman to send me a copy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-26a.692.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-27", "file": "debates1951-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "c787eb2e1489e018", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-27a.719.3", "colnum": "719", "heading": "EMPLOYMENT AND PRODUCTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "I am grateful for the hon. Member's intervention, but he will remember that whereas he, possibly for the economic welfare of those parts of the sterling area concerned, advocated stockpiling, he was a lone voice on the Opposition benches at that time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-27a.719.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-27", "file": "debates1951-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "c787eb2e1489e018", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-27a.733.1", "colnum": "733", "heading": "EMPLOYMENT AND PRODUCTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Booth", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Quite a lot.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Booth", "preceding_text": " wool, the tin, the zinc, and with our denuded resources as a result of the ravages of war, I fail to see, with all the will in the world, how we could have done what the right hon. Member suggested. There is an instance in sulphur. We are to get sulphur, but how many of us knew—not only the people outside this House but many Members of Parliament—what sulphur meant to the economy of this country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-27a.733.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-27", "file": "debates1951-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "c787eb2e1489e018", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-27a.755.1", "colnum": "755", "heading": "EMPLOYMENT AND PRODUCTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macdonald", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macdonald", "preceding_text": "It is an exaggeration to say that the Liberals are never found in the same Lobby. I think it is the other way. The noble Lord is not aware of the fact that we represent the only truly free element in the House. We, as Liberals, have the right individually to record our decision on every issue. It would be an extraordinary thing if nine free individuals found themselves agreed on every point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-27a.755.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-04-30", "file": "debates1951-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "5cbcae2828fb2853", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.862.0", "colnum": "862", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Would he resign?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "If the Government were obviously doing something wrong in the matter of long-term lending to the Coal Board, I feel sure that the Opposition would ask for a debate, that debate would be granted and if the Minister was doing wrong he would have, in my Opinion, to resign. I cannot think——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.861.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-30", "file": "debates1951-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "5cbcae2828fb2853", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.881.2", "colnum": "881", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Murray", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. Member for Kidderminster did not hear that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Murray", "preceding_text": "s equipment. I did not intend to speak today, but the right hon. Member for Bournemouth, East and Christchurch encouraged me to do so. He was so entertaining that I felt I could not resist the temptation. Everyone knows perfectly well that the nationalised industry is suffering today from the heritage it received from private enterprise. How many new shafts have been sunk during the last 25 years?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.881.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-30", "file": "debates1951-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "5cbcae2828fb2853", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.886.1", "colnum": "886", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "was announced. That is a plan which will make demands on steel. It is fundamental to the question of armaments because of what is the real answer to Communism, and because of the really important question of providing some means of stopping the spread of Communism over distant areas of the world. A temporary change in the Chair enabled me to say something I might otherwise have been unable to say.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.886.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-30", "file": "debates1951-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "5cbcae2828fb2853", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.894.1", "colnum": "894", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "methods are the responsibility of the Ministry, the National Coal Board, or of the Gas Council? If it is the National Coal Board, is the right hon. Gentleman providing, in this short Bill, for any part of the essential research expenditure involved in gasification? Generally, I find very little that is odious in this short Bill; in fact, there is quite a lot to commend it in present circumstances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.894.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-30", "file": "debates1951-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "5cbcae2828fb2853", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.910.0", "colnum": "910", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where does the Minister come in?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "I am not quite sure what the hon. Member means by \"advisory panel.\" I have a service of fuel efficiency engineers, I have a service of mobile testing units, I have now a Fuel Efficiency Committee of five or six experts, whose names I announced the other day, and I have a Scientific Advisory Committee who advise my chief scientific officer on general research.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.910.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-04-30", "file": "debates1951-04-30a.xml", "sha256": "5cbcae2828fb2853", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.932.1", "colnum": "932", "heading": "Clause 6.—(POWERS OF THE COURT IN SPECIAL CASES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "we are dealing with the words proposed to be inserted, which are: Where, on an appeal to the court against a conviction by an array or air force court-martial &#x2026; I want the Lord Advocate to tell me, or, if he does not wish to ask for the leave of the House in order to do so, to nudge somebody on his left to answer for him and to say whether that includes a field general court-martial or not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-04-30a.932.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.983.1", "colnum": "983", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "Owing to the transfer which occurred at the end of his war service, he would already have been re-trained for the arm to which he had been transferred.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.983.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1000.9", "colnum": "1000", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It does.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Member will read his own Question, he will see that it does not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1000.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1016.0", "colnum": "1016", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Nor does he.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "tart with the hon. Member for Aston (Mr. Wyatt), whose speeches, we think, have been showing an improving quality of late, which may, of course, only be because, for my part, I agree with him rather more than I used to do. He told us, according to the report in the Press: Nye Bevan and his friends did not think of the reasons for their resignations until after the resignations had been decided on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1015.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1022.0", "colnum": "1022", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "rnment who themselves discouraged industry from accumulating stocks. The right hon. Gentleman will have an opportunity to explain why, despite the Government's injunction, industry ought to have accumulated stocks. The Government were extremely slow to act and this question of raw materials was not even discussed on the international level until the Prime Minister went to Washington last December.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1022.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1026.3", "colnum": "1026", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "No doubt we did at one moment, and in a short moment I understand the United States are to help India with wheat; I hope so very much. I am not denigrating what this country did.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1026.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1026.3", "colnum": "1026", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "pe so very much. I am not denigrating what this country did. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] Good heavens, no. How could anybody possibly read that into the remarks I have been making? To do so shows a completely twisted mind. We played a splendid and a magnificent part. We could have done no more than we did by any means, but the physical resources, the wealth, was in the hands of the United States.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1026.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1036.8", "colnum": "1036", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "It has really nothing to do with our defence programme at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1036.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1037.3", "colnum": "1037", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "preceding_text": "This is a very serious matter. The minutes are extant in the right hon. Gentleman's Department, as I told him in the debate the other day, showing that his statement is not true.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1037.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1037.6", "colnum": "1037", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "I did not say that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1037.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1037.6", "colnum": "1037", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "I did not say that. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I did not say that at all. Certain sections of industry have, for the last five years, been asking us to buy bigger stocks. That is perfectly true. We were not able to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1037.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1045.1", "colnum": "1045", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Banks", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not the Government's fault.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Banks", "preceding_text": "I will. I propose to tell the House how a firm was given an allocation from the Ministry for a certain period and, much to their surprise, obtained all they wanted for that period. When, however, they went to the supplier, they were told, \"The Ministry can give you that allocation but we cannot supply you. We have not got the metal.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1045.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1052.3", "colnum": "1052", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": "I do not think that it is worth answering.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1052.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1053.3", "colnum": "1053", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": "I turn now to electricity, which is also in the hands of right hon. Gentlemen opposite. What they have done there is to allow domestic consumption to eat into the—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1053.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1053.5", "colnum": "1053", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": " to get into the works of reference as a classical example of how not to plan. The electricity situation is within Ministers' own control but they have shown mis-management there. Hon. Gentlemen will realise that it costs pretty well £100 of capital development behind every two-bar fire that is bought by a householder. It is a terrific strain. I had the figures from the Ministry of Fuel and Power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1053.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1079.1", "colnum": "1079", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "The Government have already made it clear—indeed, the Departments are already operating systems of allocation—that the Ministry of Supply is responsible for allocating steel to industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1079.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1086.1", "colnum": "1086", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "preceding_text": "r day by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Supply. But there is also a home-made obstacle to the maturing of the well-laid plans and policies of the present Government for the steel industry. I have been besieged recently by complaints from constituents about inefficiency and neglect in the management of steel works which, if true, most certainly amount to sabotage of the great national effort—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1086.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1106.3", "colnum": "1106", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Let us have some more resignations.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": " him in America, flew to Paris at the request of General Eisenhower, as it was said, largely to speed up European arms production, a phrase which \"The Times\" Washington correspondent said: &#x2026;is being interpreted as meaning 'to answer complaints about raw material allocations.' These resignations seem to have stirred up a few things, do they not? They seem to have resulted in a bit of action.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1106.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1106.3", "colnum": "1106", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "y for the West ought to be: priority No. 1, American and British re-armament, bracketed equally; priority No. 2, American and British civilian standards, bracketed equally. That ought to be the proper priority. That would be fair shares as between Allies. The Americans, however, have made it quite clear that they will not have that. Their civilian standards are to be kept up and they have said so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1106.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1106.3", "colnum": "1106", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "ind American civilian standards and British civilian standards much below that. And the Opposition would accept that American plan as well. One has only to see their tenderness to the slightest criticism of the Americans. One has only to see their willingness, blindly and slavishly to follow the American lead at all costs, to realise that they would accept that infamous list of priorities as well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1106.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1106.3", "colnum": "1106", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Preposterous.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "do not say that was an easy choice to make; it was obviously a very difficult choice to make. I think, nevertheless, that the Government have made a wrong choice. They should have said firmly to Washington, in a language which the Americans would have understood—it is the sort of language they would use themselves in the same circumstances—\"No British rearmament without a fair share of materials.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1106.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1120.1", "colnum": "1120", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "preceding_text": " materials in this country fell by 15 per cent. They fell by the equivalent of £40 million and, at the same time, as was so rightly stated in the extract from the despatch of the Washington correspondent of \"The Times,\" our friends in America were disturbed by the fact that we were piling up dollars and gold while our stocks of raw materials were steadily falling. The result was that for the year—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1120.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1129.5", "colnum": "1129", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Defence (Mr. Shinwell)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheer up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Defence (Mr. Shinwell)", "preceding_text": "It is obvious from the speech of the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Southport (Mr. R. S. Hudson)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1129.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1132.1", "colnum": "1132", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "h have been raised during the debate. First, as to the machinery for the allocation of raw materials in this country, there seems to be an impression that the Departments which are responsible for the procurement of raw materials are also responsible for their allocation. This is not so. The allocation of scarce materials is handled by an inter-Departmental committee with a disinterested chairman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1132.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1132.1", "colnum": "1132", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "arrangements are of long standing. They existed during the last war. As materials were removed from control the task of this Committee naturally diminished, but with the increasing shortages now facing us their functions are again being expanded. I should now like to refer to the very helpful and constructive speech of the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for Montgomery (Mr. C. Davies).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1132.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1132.1", "colnum": "1132", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " defence—the total amount we propose to spend on production is some £450 million. That is the total amount estimated to be spent on production in the current year. In 1950&#x2013;51 the amount we spent on production was approximately £200 million. Therefore, the point at issue is whether we are able to spend an additional £250 million on production during the current year. That is the whole issue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1132.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1135.1", "colnum": "1135", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I have given the facts to the right hon. Gentleman, and that is all I am expected to do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1135.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1135.1", "colnum": "1135", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " of raw materials which are needed for the defence production programme and for the maintenance of our essential civilian economy, including the export trade, without which the defence programme cannot be carried out. At this stage may I quote from a speech by the right hon. Member for Woodford (Mr. Churchill) in the course of a debate in the House in December, 1941, when the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1135.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1136.0", "colnum": "1136", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "You have reversed it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " cannot be carried out. At this stage may I quote from a speech by the right hon. Member for Woodford (Mr. Churchill) in the course of a debate in the House in December, 1941, when the right hon. Gentleman—[ Interruption. ] This is relevant to the present subject. The right hon. Gentleman said: First year, nothing at all; second year, very little; third year, quite a lot; fourth year all you want.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1135.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1136.1", "colnum": "1136", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "But the right hon. Gentleman, after further comments, said: But all this disparity of production will rectify itself in the passage of time. All comes even at the end of the day&#x2026;\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 2nd December, 1941; Vol. 376, c. 1025.] All the comment I need to make is that the Tory speeches are condemned out of the mouth of their own leader. There are also certain labour difficulties—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1136.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1136.1", "colnum": "1136", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; DEFENCE PROGRAMME (RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " passage of time. All comes even at the end of the day&#x2026;\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 2nd December, 1941; Vol. 376, c. 1025.] All the comment I need to make is that the Tory speeches are condemned out of the mouth of their own leader. There are also certain labour difficulties—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]—which, if prolonged, will certainly have a bad effect upon the programme. The chief among these—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1136.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-01", "file": "debates1951-05-01a.xml", "sha256": "47b6f2443db65b8c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1146.1", "colnum": "1146", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TREES (PRESERVATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Vane", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Vane", "preceding_text": "uld be improved by the planting of many hundreds of acres, but also the training value of the area might be improved at the same time, we must hope that the Parliamentary Secretary will consider the point. I was glad to hear that at least one local authority in this country is enlightened on the subject of trees, but 99 out of every 100 are as ignorant on the subject as they are indifferent to it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-01a.1146.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1167.9", "colnum": "1167", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "That is a brave effort, but it is not too relevant to this particular point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1167.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1194.2", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "KOREA (OPERATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Who started it?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "Could the Minister tell us something about Seoul? Is it not a fact that this city is now a mass of ruins, and is that not true of all the cities of Korea? Are there not over three million refugees in Korea, and is the Minister aware that there is a growing sentiment in this country that this senseless and futile war should be brought to an end?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1197.5", "colnum": "1197", "heading": "KOREA (OPERATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I have already said that we decided not to export strategic materials to China. The hon. Member can put his own construction on the strategic value of certain goods exported to China.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1197.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1198.5", "colnum": "1198", "heading": "KOREA (OPERATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Resign.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Mr. Speaker rose ——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1198.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1206.0", "colnum": "1206", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who would do it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": "g of the charge the responsibility of either the regional hospital board or of the executive council, as the case may be. In case there may be misunderstanding, I should perhaps say that these are the bodies which will ultimately be responsible. It does not necessarily follow that the administrative work in question would be carried out by the regional hospital board itself or at its headquarters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1206.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1209.1", "colnum": "1209", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Messer", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Messer", "preceding_text": "d anomalies. This Bill does not lessen them; in fact, it increases them; and the Amendment which has just been moved increases them still further. I will agree with the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Mr. Powell) that the Government are rather in a difficulty in this matter because of some of these anomalies. I cannot see any way out of these difficulties except by withdrawing the Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1209.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1239.5", "colnum": "1239", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "tion for hospitality. This country is trying to take the lead in world affairs and many of us are taking active steps in approaching a united Europe and in more detail trying to fulfil the principles which the right hon. Member for Woodford (Mr. Churchill) put in his Copenhagen speech. I should not have thought that it was a great contribution to the international spirit or the brotherhood of man—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1239.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1252.1", "colnum": "1252", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "have an accident here, it would be something which they did not want to happen to them, and that it would be a natural piece of hospitality for the British people to care for the person who sustained the accident. Furthermore, there is a good deal of pressure behind this proposal which does not appear on the surface. It is that certain elements of the medical profession may be able to charge fees.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1252.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1252.1", "colnum": "1252", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": " them, and that it would be a natural piece of hospitality for the British people to care for the person who sustained the accident. Furthermore, there is a good deal of pressure behind this proposal which does not appear on the surface. It is that certain elements of the medical profession may be able to charge fees. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] Oh, yes. In fact, if I were going to put my finger—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1252.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1254.2", "colnum": "1254", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "I have listened with interest to the discussions that have been taking place on the other side of the Committee. I have always been interested in the building up of the National Health Service.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1254.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1254.5", "colnum": "1254", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Give way.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "I cannot give way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1254.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1259.8", "colnum": "1259", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "I am anxious very briefly to support the right hon. Lady the Member for Moss Side (Miss Horsbrugh) in one of the things she said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1259.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1265.2", "colnum": "1265", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fernyhough", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Disgraceful.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fernyhough", "preceding_text": "If we make this charge in the manner which hon. Members opposite contemplate, why should we stop with the Health Service? There will be hundreds of thousands of people coming to this country in the next two or three months. They will be eating subsidised food. They will be eating food which will cost the taxpayers of this country a sum of money almost identical with the cost of the Health Service.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1265.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1296.6", "colnum": "1296", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Thirteen million pounds.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "preceding_text": "Does anyone deny that the proposals for making charges on glasses and dentures are being made to save money? I understand that the purpose is to save £25 million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1296.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1299.1", "colnum": "1299", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "es as well, and add them on to his £5 or £6 a week, and still £5 is a small fortune. Therefore, I say people who need these essential items will have to go without them if this Clause is not amended. I ask the Government Front Bench once again to remember the principle upon which we have always appealed to the people of this country, and that is—to each according to his need. It is in that spirit—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1299.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1314.5", "colnum": "1314", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "preceding_text": "Perhaps I might make it clear that my intention is to bring forward a Clause on the Report stage which would have the effect of bringing the charges proposed in the Bill to an end in April, 1954.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1314.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1324.10", "colnum": "1324", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "preceding_text": "I never expected to have to oppose any recommendation made by my own party. I did know that at some time, if, by some misfortune, the Opposition were returned as the Government, I should have to fight vigorously all the suggestions they might make for curtailing the Health Service.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1324.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1324.10", "colnum": "1324", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "preceding_text": " is concerned. I want to call attention to one or two points in regard to Clause 1. The people in my constituency have said all along that there have been people—not of the working classes but of the better classes—who have abused this scheme; who all along objected to the Health Service being put into operation and made up their minds that they would do things which would bring it into disrepute.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1324.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1324.10", "colnum": "1324", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "preceding_text": "be attended to or delivered before that payment is completed? There is one aspect of this matter which does not surprise but interests me. That is, that there has been no opposition from the other side of the Committee on the question of this payment. That makes me more suspicious than ever of the attitude that is being adopted by my own Front Bench. I have always been taught in my Socialist days—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1324.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1324.10", "colnum": "1324", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "preceding_text": "s, on any platform in the country, say that these charges ought to be put into operation, because I do not agree with them. I say that they ought not to be levied upon the people on whom they will be levied. I do not want to make any comment upon the amount spent by hon. Members in different parts of this Committee, but I expect that very often they spend more than £4 5s. a week on certain things.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1324.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1330.3", "colnum": "1330", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend says for what it ought to do. May I, in the context of the proposed charge under this Bill, just mention two important figures of the services rendered by the National Health Service during the comparatively short time it has been in operation? If my recollection is correct, 17,000,000 pairs of spectacles have already been supplied free under the National Health Service.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1330.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1331.1", "colnum": "1331", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir Charles. Unhappily, it is the background to the world situation which brings us to this discussion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1331.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1332.3", "colnum": "1332", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "ed from this side of the House, that my hon. Friends will not lose sight of the over-riding achievements of the Labour Government, and that they will look at this matter in its proper perspective, and represent to those who may not understand, why the. Labour Government has had to depart in these grave times from the principle of the National Health Service, to which it still adheres in principle.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1332.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1332.3", "colnum": "1332", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"GO on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "ad to depart in these grave times from the principle of the National Health Service, to which it still adheres in principle. [ Interruption. ] I am sorry if the necessity of departing temporarily from principles is not understood when the over-riding principle of survival—of defending ourselves against the possibility of aggression—is involved. I was about to conclude by saying that this proposal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1332.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1333.3", "colnum": "1333", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You soon will be.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "preceding_text": "us difficulties—much more serious than this £25 million. I say that it would do no harm, even at this late hour, for those Ministers who are handling this Bill to take it back. They know full well that the great majority of hon. Members on this side are very disappointed indeed. I go further. I go to the length of saying that were the situation reversed, and were we on the other side of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1333.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1337.3", "colnum": "1337", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "preceding_text": "using a great upheaval in the minds and hearts of our people for a small financial gain. I feel that by this Clause we are being asked to surrender what we believe to be an important principle, though we have not a clear idea what the financial gain is to be. I must say that I thought there was a great substance and relevance in the remarks of the hon. Member for Luton (Dr. Hill) when he analysed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1337.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1345.2", "colnum": "1345", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Praying&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "or quite understandable and admirable reasons, he does get the picture a little out of perspective. I have known my hon. Friend for more than 20 years. I had the great pleasure of serving on the Glasgow Corporation with him. I have seen him at work. There is no one more expert, deft or compassionate, but when he kept up the Tory members of the Glasgow Corporation for 17 hours what were they doing?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1345.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1346.2", "colnum": "1346", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Yes.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "Let us look at that, and I know that my hon. Friend will believe that I do so honestly, and he will not think me evasive. His reaction to such a proposal as taking a shilling a week off public assistance for a child is understandable, and always typical of our party. That attitude has not always been confined to our party, but are we really considering anything comparable here?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1346.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1348.3", "colnum": "1348", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The dentist will say that\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "preceding_text": "es. We hear a great deal about those with low wages and pensions being sent to the National Assistance Board to get their glasses and dentures. But there is no guarantee that they will get their spectacles and dentures. I have had some experience of the Assistance Board, even when the old idea of the Poor Law is supposed to have been swept away, and I can hear them say, \"You cannot have dentures\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1348.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1348.3", "colnum": "1348", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "preceding_text": "ey will get their spectacles and dentures. I have had some experience of the Assistance Board, even when the old idea of the Poor Law is supposed to have been swept away, and I can hear them say, \"You cannot have dentures\". [HON. MEMBERS: \"The dentist will say that\"]. I can give cases in my own area where they have even examined people with their clothes on to find out what condition they were in.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1348.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1351.0", "colnum": "1351", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "ncy which is as much working-class as hers and that I was born in the same kind of surroundings as those from which she came. None of us likes this Bill, but these charges have to be made. We regret it very much. The Front Bench have been compelled to bring in a Bill which they realise will not be popular among their own party but, as I see it, they had to put a ceiling on the National Health Act.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1351.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1353.0", "colnum": "1353", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Poole", "preceding_text": "budgetary reason for the imposition of this charge to save so much this year and £25 million in a full year. It is in sorrow more than in anger that I think the Government have seen fit to divide hon. Members on this side, who have stood so solidly together and fought so many worthy battles in the House. With their very limited majority, the Government are unable to get this thing as a solid body—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1353.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1355.4", "colnum": "1355", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "preceding_text": "I am astonished at the sensitive character of some of the hon. Members who have risen to these points of order because there have been some savage attacks from below the Gangway on His Majesty's Government tonight. If, in the course of the debate, someone happens to say a word in support of the Government, I hope that will not be taken amiss. The hon. Member for Shettleston said that he has been—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1355.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1356.2", "colnum": "1356", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "preceding_text": " in principle from what we do when we put up the price of school meals? If hon. Members below the Gangway can accept one proposal after another without raising the question of principle, I fail to see how they are entitled to raise the question of principle now. I think they are misleading not so much the country, but certain elements in our own party when they raise this as a matter of principle.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1356.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1357.2", "colnum": "1357", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "e the Chancellor not to resign if an alteration is made in the Bill. He has far too much common sense to resign himself on a question of this sort. I cannot accept the tortuous explanations of the Minister of Health in introducing the Bill. He was very much like a person acknowledging, half apologetically, an illegitimate child, knowing full well that the father of the child was over on that side.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1357.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1357.2", "colnum": "1357", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Newspaper comment&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "bour movement, and outside it, will listen respectfully to my right hon. Friend the Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Bevan). I do not know whether hon. Gentlemen have read a remarkable article giving the results of public opinion—a Gallup Poll—in the \"News-Chronicle\" which showed that 49 per cent. of the people of the country were against the charges for spectacles and teeth contained in the Health Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1357.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-02", "file": "debates1951-05-02a.xml", "sha256": "5654af4790217f74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1362.1", "colnum": "1362", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. O. Davies", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"May Day.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. O. Davies", "preceding_text": " playboys, the hon. Gentlemen on the other side of the Committee, have had a great day indeed. I noticed that when my hon. Friend the Member for Bermondsey (Mr. Mellish) said what he sincerely believed about my hon. Friend the Member for Shettleston (Mr. McGovern), about what harm he was doing to the Labour movement, tremendous cheers were heard from the Tory Opposition. This has been a great day—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-02a.1362.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1416.2", "colnum": "1416", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (FLORAL DECORATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Lie down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Lewis", "preceding_text": "Now that this great Festival is open, can the Lord Privy Seal give us an assurance that the petty sniping on the part of hon. Members opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1416.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1429.5", "colnum": "1429", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "preceding_text": "Further to that point——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1429.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1430.2", "colnum": "1430", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Find out.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I have not exact information as to what particular categories came under these vehicles. They include locomotives and ships and a very wide range of things and, as I say, bicycles. I do not know the amount for which the hon. Member asks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1430.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1431.1", "colnum": "1431", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "a personal attack—that last week when I asked the Minister of State in this House about this matter he first of all gave a vague answer and then said that he could not give a guarantee about the matter but that no significant quantities of strategic materials had gone? I asked him, as a supplementary—\"Surely no commodities whatever should go?\"; and he was not able to give the undertaking I sought.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1431.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1445.2", "colnum": "1445", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (PROTECTION OF CIVIL INTERESTS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMDERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "t of premiums not paid. These detailed provisions—I am sure the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter) will be interested in this small point—might perhaps have been made by Order in Council under the Bill, but in view of the experience I had for some years in another capacity, I thought it wiser on the whole that the arrangements should be subject to full Parliamentary control.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1445.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1465.1", "colnum": "1465", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RESERVE AND AUXILIARY FORCES (PROTECTION OF CIVIL INTERESTS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "tainly embarrass him by giving him my congratulations. Perhaps the right hon. and learned Gentleman would help us a little by explaining certain questions which arise out of Part II of the Bill which we are told deals with protection against insecurity of tenure of place of residence. Perhaps he could enlighten us exactly on what a \"place of residence\" means. Does it mean, for example, a barracks?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1465.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1486.3", "colnum": "1486", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "preceding_text": "I am very glad the hon. Gentleman admits that his Department have been wrong in this and I hope we can take encouragement from this admission and from the fact that there has recently been a change at the Board of Trade, so that we now have a legal mind there which may pay greater attention to the descriptive matter that comes out of the Department than was paid before.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1486.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1510.9", "colnum": "1510", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "preceding_text": "ent. cotton as a cotton wool cloth, and a cloth containing 90 per cent. or more wool as a wool cloth. If the hon. Gentleman really applied himself to it he would realise that that is perfectly fair, that it would stop the public being misled, and that these descriptions could very easily be applied. The hon. Gentleman's reply has been utterly inadequate. He has not faced up to the position at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1510.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-03", "file": "debates1951-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "2c729ebe8f0e5ddc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1510.9", "colnum": "1510", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; UTILITY APPAREL (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Burden", "preceding_text": "ave issued a circular to traders which says: Although the term to the industry refers to a method of production of yarn, the Board of Trade are not aware that it has ever been applied by the industry to the production of materials other than wool by that method. To the public it has always meant a particular kind of all-wool material. It seems most probable, therefore, that if applied to a cloth\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-03a.1510.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1579.7", "colnum": "1579", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FUEL AND POWER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Ward", "preceding_text": "Am I to understand from that reply that the Minister has never measured the quality of coal supplied by coal merchants by inquiring how much compensation the merchants have had to pay to their customers? If I am right in my observation, I think the right hon. Gentleman has failed in his duty concerning the quality of coal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1579.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1582.4", "colnum": "1582", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "I do not know where the Parliamentary Secretary gets his information about falling prices, but if he will consult his wife and any housewives on this side of the House, he will find that prices have not fallen.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1582.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1584.7", "colnum": "1584", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Savoy.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. Lewis", "preceding_text": "Can my hon. Friend tell us where we can go to find this fish—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1584.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1595.1", "colnum": "1595", "heading": "EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Is there any means of making sure that this import of 2,500 tons a month is in fact used for civilian consumption—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1595.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1596.0", "colnum": "1596", "heading": "EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "Is the President of the Board of Trade aware, in the first place, that so far as the comparatively minor matter was concerned of exports from the United Kingdom to China, I warned his office—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1596.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1604.0", "colnum": "1604", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": " o'clock the following morning there were only three speakers who tried to say that, on the whole, they had some sympathy with His Majesty's Government. I am told that I put it 50 per cent. too high but, so far as I know, all of them said they did not like the Bill and, furthermore, that they did not like the Clause. I said I did not, and I voted for it on what I think were constitutional grounds.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1604.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1607.1", "colnum": "1607", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "I agree entirely. I have said before that I would prefer to see the Bill withdrawn altogether, but we are now considering a limited Amendment by the Government and a simple point made by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary or the Minister—I forget who it was who opened the discussion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1607.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1616.0", "colnum": "1616", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "withdrawn, whereupon the Minister asks leave to withdraw it, leaving all the anomalies of which his hon. Friends originally complained. All of those anomalies are still in the Bill. The whole of that long argument was a beating of the air and meant nothing at all. Hon. Members say: Sooner than accept the Amendment we resile from the position we urged with so much length and eloquence on the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1616.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1626.0", "colnum": "1626", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "preceding_text": "I would beg the hon. Gentleman not to misinterpret me like that. What I said was that I know perfectly well, and he probably does too, because he is a big business man—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1626.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1634.4", "colnum": "1634", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Mr. Gromyko.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "t to make such a claim, although I would not necessarily agree with him. What I disagreed with him about, was when he said that this was an authoritarian Government—I believe he called it a totalitarian Government—because we disagreed with his point of view. That is the kind of view which in another office I used to hear frequently from some gentleman whom I know my hon. Friend dislikes very much.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1634.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1635.0", "colnum": "1635", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "preceding_text": "courages us to believe we have a concession? That subsection takes all the necessary precautions to give the Government power to continue these provisions permanently. All they require to do is to pray each year that the Act continues. I say that if the Government put that in, it is obviously because they have in mind the idea that in future there may be justification for continuing these charges.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1635.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1687.3", "colnum": "1687", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And written about them.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacLeod", "preceding_text": " not read any of the earlier proceedings of the Bill, he should consult my Second Reading speech, if he can bear to do so, where he will find that point dealt with. Let me say, quite frankly, that I think the Bill is full of anomalies. In many ways its approach is quite wrong. I think it is ill-considered. As hon. Members have said, I welcome these charges; I have pressed for them for a long time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1687.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1690.0", "colnum": "1690", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " the family's income up to a certain basic minimum below which people starve. In the case of travel to hospitals—the Minister will correct me if I am wrong—unless a man can prove that with his weekly wage, when the charge for the journey to the hospital is added to his other expenses, he will be destitute, he gets not a penny—not a penny. He must prove destitution by National Assistance standards.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1688.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1691.3", "colnum": "1691", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "bsistence level can be applied in the country. This means that if, having to pay this charge, a man's total income falls below that under which one is entitled, if he is out of work or aged, to National Assistance, an employed man may, in those circumstances, receive National Assistance. On this point I agree with my hon. Friend the Member for Devon-port. This, of course, is subsidising low wages.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1691.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1691.3", "colnum": "1691", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "we are saying that somebody who is not earning sufficient wages is able to pay for his spectacles and keep on the subsistence level shall have assistance. I am sorry that capitalists should be subsidised in that way. It is a very striking thing that we do that. In my experience people are still—I think, rightly—reluctant to rely on National Assistance. By and large the scrounger will go to get it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1691.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1691.3", "colnum": "1691", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "ages is able to pay for his spectacles and keep on the subsistence level shall have assistance. I am sorry that capitalists should be subsidised in that way. It is a very striking thing that we do that. In my experience people are still—I think, rightly—reluctant to rely on National Assistance. By and large the scrounger will go to get it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Thousands of decent people will not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1691.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1691.3", "colnum": "1691", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is not a means test.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "ssistance. By and large the scrounger will go to get it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Thousands of decent people will not. [ Interruption. ] I am very sorry, but I would point out that there are many people who will not, in fact, get what they are entitled to under this Bill because they are too proud to do so. I still think it is a grave mistake to impose a means test on men at work before they can get—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1691.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1700.3", "colnum": "1700", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": " am sure that many of the arguments which have been brought forward by Ministers will not commend themselves to Members in all parts of the House. Their actual proposals certainly do not commend themselves to us on this side of the House. This is certainly no Tory Bill in the sense that if the Tories had been responsible we should have introduced a very different and we believe a much better Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1700.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1707.1", "colnum": "1707", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "preceding_text": "to the amount of the charges stated in the Schedule to the Bill, I will say in passing, since some doubt has been thrown upon these estimates, that, after all, my right hon. Friend and I get our estimates in the same way as every Minister standing at this Box ever has received estimates, and that, in general, these estimates made by the Departments do not normally turn out to be so very far wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1707.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-07", "file": "debates1951-05-07a.xml", "sha256": "4ac158a7fcd58982", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1714.1", "colnum": "1714", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": "This is a very important point that the Minister has just disclosed, I think for the first time to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-07a.1714.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1731.5", "colnum": "1731", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that houses are becoming uninhabitable because of the lack of repairs? What action does the right hon. Gentleman propose to take in order to avoid this decay?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1731.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1731.9", "colnum": "1731", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bossom", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bossom", "preceding_text": "Does the Minister realise that there is a lot of ground for the statement I make in my Question? If he would take the trouble to write to the various local authorities he would find that there are terrific waiting lists, and that in over 80 per cent. of the cases the waiting lists increased in 1950&#x2013;51.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1731.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1732.2", "colnum": "1732", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "preceding_text": "I am astonished to hear that the hon. Gentleman has written to all local authorities in the country. It is remarkable private enterprise on his part to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1732.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1732.2", "colnum": "1732", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "preceding_text": " too much correspondence and form filling. It is well known that these waiting lists vary very much from one area to another; they are not comparable. Many are based on one principle in one area and on a different principle in another area. There is a great deal of duplication on waiting lists, for many people are on more than one list. I have heard of a case of a man who is on 16 different lists—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1732.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1743.1", "colnum": "1743", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "As bricks have been scarce for housing purposes, and as the Government do not know what they want for defence purposes, on what basis do the Government say that there will be no interference with the housing programme?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1743.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1767.1", "colnum": "1767", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "amount put to reserve. As I was saying, whether or not the reserves suffer will depend on the rate of dividend paid, and those who raise dividends really cannot complain at the same time, when we have left the rate on undistributed profits as low as 10 per cent., that it is Profits Tax which is depleting reserves. There has not been much criticism of our decision to withdraw the initial allowance—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1767.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1777.1", "colnum": "1777", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "solation; they must be studied in relation to the whole body of existing taxes. When Sir Stafford Cripps and, later the Financial Secretary, made this claim about taxable resources, they omitted, for obvious reasons, to mention that other taxes have been greatly increased. Thus, the Customs and Excise now bring in £1,651 million compared with £1,130 million in 1945&#x2013;46, which is an increase—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1777.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1805.2", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Such as the fun fair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "preceding_text": "of the comparison in the eyes of the masses, between their sacrifices and a great deal of extravagant waste. I can assure hon. Members that, time and again, this question has been raised in my presence—this question of the stupid waste, the ostentatious waste which goes on, and hard-working people find it very irritating and obnoxious at a time when the community is asked to accept such austerity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1805.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1830.1", "colnum": "1830", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "preceding_text": "in most parts of the House. I think that the French have one additional advantage—and here I digress from the view which has been expressed by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. They also have a Ministry of Fine Arts, with a direct departmental responsibility which, in my view, is lacking in this country. To come down to a somewhat more mundane subject, I should like to discuss toothbrushes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1830.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1840.1", "colnum": "1840", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "preceding_text": " something which this Finance Bill ought to have remedied. I shall refer only briefly to my third point, which is that there is very little in the Finance Bill to protect the poorest of the poor against the impact of rising prices. The reason for that is—my hon. and right hon. Friends on the Treasury bench do not really understand why the cost of living is going up and I propose to enlighten them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1840.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1840.1", "colnum": "1840", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "preceding_text": "the flow of money from start to finish, public control over the issue of new credit, now left to private banks, and public control over the retiral of credit through retail prices, now left to private enterprise. Let them ponder these things, not because these things are the politics of the next decade, but because the Labour Party, having enacted its declared programme, must now find another one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1840.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1845.1", "colnum": "1845", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Waldron Smithers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"HOW big?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Waldron Smithers", "preceding_text": "icle in \"The Times\" on 10th April said: But it will be hoped that Mr. Gaitskell will make his first Budget memorable for no more than a workmanlike attempt to make the best of the impossible legacy bequeathed to him. Part of that impossible legacy is the result of six years of Socialist mis-government. I am supported in that by a letter I received this morning from a big business man in the north.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1845.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1854.2", "colnum": "1854", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "preceding_text": "o the conditions of today, we must above all else in this island of ours which depends on international trade, first of all seek integrity, confidence, prestige and credit. None of these things can be shown in the balance sheet of a company or in the Budget or in the Finance Bill in terms of pounds, shillings and pence, but they are basic to material prosperity. In my election address I said this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1854.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1857.3", "colnum": "1857", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "preceding_text": "or going to live outside the United Kingdom. Of course, as my right hon. Friend the Member for Aldershot pointed out, and as was also said by my hon. Friend the Member for Bury and Radcliffe (Mr. W. Fletcher) while this Clause exists, no foreign company will come here and set up business, yet we are the only country in the world which must get as much foreign business as possible. I am encouraged—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1857.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1857.3", "colnum": "1857", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who by?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "preceding_text": "le this Clause exists, no foreign company will come here and set up business, yet we are the only country in the world which must get as much foreign business as possible. I am encouraged—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] The other day I spoke at Poplar Town Hall and I assure hon. Members that I had a better hearing there than I have had here tonight. I am encouraged to try to drive home these truths—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1857.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1861.1", "colnum": "1861", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "preceding_text": "hich is immeasurable. True today. The late respected Mr. Bevin said this: As an old trade union official I do not want £10 a week if I can buy only £2 of stuff with it. I would rather have £5 a week with which I could buy £5 worth of stuff. Will the Socialists never learn from past experience, or are they determined to enact their ideologies and damn the consequences? I have come to my last point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1861.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1861.1", "colnum": "1861", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "preceding_text": "in said this: As an old trade union official I do not want £10 a week if I can buy only £2 of stuff with it. I would rather have £5 a week with which I could buy £5 worth of stuff. Will the Socialists never learn from past experience, or are they determined to enact their ideologies and damn the consequences? I have come to my last point. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I want to say something constructive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1861.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1861.1", "colnum": "1861", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "preceding_text": "a week with which I could buy £5 worth of stuff. Will the Socialists never learn from past experience, or are they determined to enact their ideologies and damn the consequences? I have come to my last point. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I want to say something constructive. [ Laughter. ] \"As the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fools.\" If I were the Chancellor of the Exchequer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1861.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1861.1", "colnum": "1861", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Burn them up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "preceding_text": "em which of the 25,400 rules and regulations affected their Departments. I would call a meeting of experts, men and women of practical experience as opposed to theorists and slogan mongers, and representing bankers, merchants, industrialists, trade unions, insurance companies, wholesalers, retailers, produce brokers and housewives, and I would say to them, \"There are 25,400 rules and regulations\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1861.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1862.3", "colnum": "1862", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Which side is the hon. Member on?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Smithers", "preceding_text": "When will hon. Members realise that the war is on between good and evil, that the war is on between Christianity and Communism? It is a battle in the hearts of men.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1862.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1866.1", "colnum": "1866", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Aubrey Jones", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Aubrey Jones", "preceding_text": "trial investment in this country as compared with that in other countries. In 1949, we allocated to industrial investment some 56 per cent. of our total savings, and to social investment—by local authorities, hospitals, etc.—44 per cent. In France, the respective figures were: industrial, 77 per cent.; social, 23 per cent. The figures for Sweden were: industrial, 63 per cent.; social, 37 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1866.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1875.1", "colnum": "1875", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "ink the criticism, especially that of the hon. Member for Bury and Radcliffe lost sight of the fact that the Clause has one object and one object only, that of checking tax avoidance. The hon. Gentleman made a very unjustified remark in his speech when he said that this was, of course, another example of a Socialist Government wanting to stop something, wanting to make regulations about something.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1875.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1877.3", "colnum": "1877", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "In this matter, I have complete confidence in the integrity and fair-mindedness of the right hon. Gentleman to apply this Clause in accordance with the views—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1877.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1877.3", "colnum": "1877", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": " the integrity and fair-mindedness of the right hon. Gentleman to apply this Clause in accordance with the views—[ Interruption ]—I think that we all on this side should be forgiven a lot after listening for a solid hour to the hon. Gentleman the Member for Orpington (Sir W. Smithers). If hon. Gentlemen opposite will just check their exuberance a little I will come to the conclusion of my remarks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1877.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1877.3", "colnum": "1877", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "n that she is dead. If a taxpayer omits to include in his return a large sum of untaxed interest, when he is asked about it he can plead that he had completely overlooked it and ask to be believed. I think that experience shows that the difficulty in carrying prosecutions to the point of conviction suggests that it is far better to apply checks rather than penalties. My concluding remarks on this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1877.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1883.1", "colnum": "1883", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "ee years ago that within a short time there would be a rise in unemployment, I am very happy that these forebodings which came from the Tory Party have not matured and that we enjoy in this country full employment and will continue to do so under a Labour Government. I appeal to the Chancellor of the Exchequer on a matter which affects the lives of the people. I refer to the high tax on speedways.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1883.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1883.1", "colnum": "1883", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "at we see plenty of virtues in what this Government has done, and I am sure that the Government will listen to matters which we as representatives of the people are anxious to bring forward on behalf of the people. I desire to refer to a large number of letters which I have received from constituents in regard to the high tax on speedways. One letter refers to the speedway as being a family sport.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1883.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1905.3", "colnum": "1905", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Has the right hon. Gentleman got the figures for wages?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "I said that if there were an abandonment of the policy of moderation and restraint, we should have to consider taking further action to check the inflationary tendency, and I said I was glad to see that the rate of increase had moved downwards as compared with last year—if one can judge from one month.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1905.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1906.0", "colnum": "1906", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We do not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "urprising that these measures and Clauses should be treated in such a controversial manner, because in present circumstances—and I must remind the right hon. Gentleman, who throughout his speech hardly referred to the defence programme and the whole background of this—I find it difficult to understand how the Opposition can condone attempts by people or companies to seek to evade their fair share.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1906.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1906.0", "colnum": "1906", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "ground of this—I find it difficult to understand how the Opposition can condone attempts by people or companies to seek to evade their fair share. [HON. MEMBERS: \"We do not.\"] Hon. Members say that they do not do so; but when it comes to what they say on the various Clauses, that is a different story. Then, it is always the poor taxpayer, the chap who is trying to evade tax; what is wrong with it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1906.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1914.5", "colnum": "1914", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, PORTSMOUTH", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "preceding_text": "not cost-of-works payment houses; they are value-payment houses and do not attract a licence automatically. Bue we should have a Government which could see that situation and help the bomb-damaged cities to replace private houses that had been knocked down. I have the statistics for Portsmouth here. In the city, 6,070 houses and 820 shops with living accommodation were destroyed, a total of 6,890.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1914.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-08", "file": "debates1951-05-08a.xml", "sha256": "5d7181e99c0f259f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1919.7", "colnum": "1919", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOUSING, PORTSMOUTH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lindgren", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lindgren", "preceding_text": "o the Ministry there are—or were at the time when the figures were supplied in July, 1950&#x2013;10,629 on the waiting list for houses to rent. Their list of applicants to build by licence numbered 355. That is a ratio of one in 30. All the City Council have been concerned about is to get more and more licences for private building, and they have not been prepared to go on with houses for renting.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-08a.1919.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1945.1", "colnum": "1945", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; JAPAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Does the right hon. Gentleman know how far he has got?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I understand the right hon. Gentleman's point of view, but I think he is a little unreasonable because we have not got very far yet. But there will come a time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1945.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1954.1", "colnum": "1954", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; WEST AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "Will the right hon. Gentleman accept it that I was not seeking to rebuke him—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1954.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1960.4", "colnum": "1960", "heading": "H.M. SUBMARINE \"AFFRAY\" (SEARCH)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "They have for some days been bringing pressure to bear upon the Admiralty to lift this restriction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1960.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1981.1", "colnum": "1981", "heading": "Clause 2.—(WIDOWS' BENEFIT.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "I will be very brief, because I have already lost half my voice and I am afraid of losing the other half.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1981.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1990.1", "colnum": "1990", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "preceding_text": "ension payable at present, even with the recent increase of 4s., provides a very low standard of life for those who draw it. We are often inclined to exaggerate the value of the amount paid to pensioners. If we were to make a searching examination into the increased cost of living I believe we should find that the 26s. a week pension has a value of scarcely more than 10s. or 11s. in terms of 1938.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1990.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1991.1", "colnum": "1991", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "preceding_text": "I have taken into account the increase in the cost of living. We all know that coal is 4s. 6d. a cwt. and we know of increases which have taken place in the prices of every commodity since 1938. I can remember when rice and peas were 3&#x00BD;d. a pound—and they are now 10d. I say that the 26s. has the value of about 11s. if we take into account the cost of living in 1938.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.1991.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2001.0", "colnum": "2001", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "preceding_text": " hope she will correct me if I am wrong—what it really means is that the principle of the Bill as introduced is maintained, and that for the future those who reach the age of 60, if women, or 65, if men, will not if they retire receive the increased pensions which are provided for in the Bill. Those who reach those ages in future will have to wait in the case of men until they reach the age of 70—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2001.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2003.2", "colnum": "2003", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. O. Davies", "preceding_text": " embarrassed now than ever before because of the mass felicitations from these benches. Will she accept from me that I very gladly join in the chorus of appreciation which has been expressed? I am certain that the right hon. Lady will feel that she has had a grand day in this old House of Commons. She has let down neither her people nor the Government. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2003.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2008.4", "colnum": "2008", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Miss Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Ward", "preceding_text": "I do not want to enter a controversy of that kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2008.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2013.0", "colnum": "2013", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "preceding_text": "r to have gone to the heads of earlier speakers have disappeared, and that we are now coming a little nearer to judging in a realistic spirit the exact consequences of what has been proposed by the Government. It is no exaggeration to describe the concession as an effective way to eliminate the grievances of one and a quarter million people and doing nothing whatever for those who come afterwards.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2013.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2013.1", "colnum": "2013", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. Thomas", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. Thomas", "preceding_text": "I am very sorry, and I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. Surely he is aware that the Minister has announced that those who remain at work after the age of 65 will draw the new basic rate?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2013.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2013.2", "colnum": "2013", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "preceding_text": "When I have had a little more to say about the effects of this concession, I may persuade the hon. Gentleman that there is rather more in my point of view than he imagines at the moment. Let us be quite clear what has brought about this concession. There was a revolt.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2013.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2022.4", "colnum": "2022", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Steele", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. Member is wrong.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Steele", "preceding_text": " and accepted in this House in the National Insurance Act. I state quite frankly that I regret it. I do so because I think that the problem of the increases could have been met in an entirely different way. What are we really setting out to do? We are in fact to give an increase to the old people of 4s. per week. I am sure that the old people are not in the least concerned how they get that money.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2022.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2022.4", "colnum": "2022", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Steele", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Steele", "preceding_text": "t benefit. That will naturally come, and so far as I can see we have weakened our case against any pension demand from spinsters. We always said we must have equality of benefit irrespective of the circumstances in which the need arose. Now we have said in effect that there is differentiation between the various groups of benefits, we can expect that a spinster's movement will be chasing us again—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2022.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2029.2", "colnum": "2029", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. May we have your guidance, Major Milner, as to what we are now discussing? There was a reference to the Amendment in the name of the hon. Member for Merthyr Tydvil (Mr. S. O. Davies), who I understood had withdrawn it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2029.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2036.0", "colnum": "2036", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. G. Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"There is no Public Assistance Board.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. G. Bennett", "preceding_text": "larified to the Committee tonight. It is now made clear that if a husband happens to be 65 on 30th September he and his wife qualify for 50s., but in the case of a husband who happens to be 65 on 2nd or 3rd October this couple may only receive 42s. I hope if I am wrong the Minister will clarify the situation. Those in the latter category will then be compelled to go to the Public Assistance Board.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2036.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2041.1", "colnum": "2041", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"There is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "preceding_text": "the man of 68 or 70. I say, therefore, that we must be more careful in making decisions of this kind. We have been told that the Government accept the principle of men working beyond the age of 65. But there has been no evidence either from the Ministry of Labour or from industry that they are making a departure from previous policy and that they will retain people in their jobs after they are 65.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2041.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2042.0", "colnum": "2042", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"More than that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "preceding_text": "the payment of the 4s. to people who need it now. I appreciate that there has been this increase, and I very much appreciate the increase in the National Assistance Board's scales; but the fact is that the only other concession we have been given this afternoon is that if a person remains at work for 18 months after his retiring age he will ultimately receive an increase of 1s. 6d. in his pension.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2042.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2052.0", "colnum": "2052", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A single man?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "preceding_text": "ual voluntarily foregoing his pension, and it is only when we get above the actuarial value of the increment from the Fund that incentive to stay at work obtains. I do not support the Amendment. The effect would be that a single man would gain ultimately in pension by 4s. a year for each year he postponed retirement for himself and he would receive 2s. a year in respect of his wife, a total of 6s.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2052.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2055.0", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "preceding_text": "ay say, \"This does not pay us in terms of finance,\" I should have thought it would have been well worth while for the Treasury to pay £50 if as a result they got £300 worth of work added to the pool for all of us to share. I remember pushing this point very hard, as the Minister well knows, when the Labour Party were trying to formulate their ideas for the last election. It really did astonish me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2055.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2069.0", "colnum": "2069", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "the 1946 Act, but when the increments for postponed retirement were introduced, by some strange omission equality was still withheld from the wife who is more than five years younger than the husband. I ought to declare my interest in the matter. My wife is more than five years younger than I am, and my great anxiety in supporting the Amendment is that she should be properly treated in due course.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2069.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-09", "file": "debates1951-05-09a.xml", "sha256": "0c80d83672dfbca9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2083.1", "colnum": "2083", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. Thomas", "preceding_text": " at least doubles the amount which pensioners can earn, apart from drawing their pension. I suggest to the hon. Member for Aylesbury (Mr. Summers) that the manner in which he explained the aims of his Amendment makes it perfectly clear that every old age pensioner would be in a quandary every week he worked, wondering what his position was under the Bill. His Amendment is so complex and difficult—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-09a.2083.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2154.2", "colnum": "2154", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ELECTRICITY POWER CUTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The what?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "On the last point, the answer is: \"A very small amount indeed.\" On the first question, the outage—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2154.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2161.3", "colnum": "2161", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "r now is in pursuing a policy of girding at the United States and giving them the impression that they are left to do all the work, while we pull at their coat tails and read them moral lessons in statecraft and about the love we all ought to have for China. I would plead in the very short time I beg leave to keep the House this afternoon—because our time is very limited—for a sense of proportion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2161.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2161.3", "colnum": "2161", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "imulate the sentiment for isolation which has powerful exponents in the United States, they might well become primarily responsible, not only for our ruin, but for that of the whole of the free world. It is on this basis, and only on this basis, that I venture to examine the details, or some of the details, or some of the aspects of the exports to Communist China which are the cause of the debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2161.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2161.3", "colnum": "2161", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is right.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "estimated to amount to 46,000 tons\"—I am speaking in round numbers—\"in the first quarter of 1951.\" Up till 9th April therefore the Government have taken no effective action in this matter and the exports in the first quarter of the present year show an immense and significant increase on what took place last year; 46,000 tons a quarter is—and I hope I am right in my arithmetic—184,000 tons a year—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2161.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2166.0", "colnum": "2166", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ith China. It would be a step that everybody could understand, and it might well be the prelude to a whole-hearted agreement with the United States in this sphere, which causes offence and anger far beyond its actual military importance. I hope we are not going to have another back-biting controversy with the United States about whether any goods are going from Japan into China with their consent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2165.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2166.2", "colnum": "2166", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "of which the hon. Gentleman is thinking. Anyhow, it is my show at the moment. It might be a very good debating point, if there were really no division between the two sides of the Committee on the matter, here this afternoon, or on some other occasion—a very good debating point—and it is a point which might well be used between Governments if we were bearing an equal burden with the United States—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2166.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2167.1", "colnum": "2167", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "power in the Kremlin. Our advice to the Government is to stop rubber entirely now and to reach an agreement with the United States on the general question of trade with China in a spirit which will make the United States feel that their cause is our cause, and that we mean at all costs to be good friends and allies. I read with emotion the testimony of General Marshall before the Senate Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2167.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2168.5", "colnum": "2168", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman has just asserted that I declared that the dismissal of General MacArthur should be brought about because it would be of advantage to us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2168.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2169.4", "colnum": "2169", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Let me tell the right hon. Gentleman that I never made any such statement. I challenge him to produce that statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2169.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2169.12", "colnum": "2169", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I am not nervous about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2169.12"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2170.0", "colnum": "2170", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "What about the Admiral?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "e Senate Committee. This great world statesman has proved himself to be one of the leading figures in our life since the Great War. He has spoken with the utmost consideration for our point of view. In him, in General Omar Bradley, and in General Eisenhower here in Europe are men in whose judgment on the world scene we may safely repose the fullest confidence. They are the members or instruments——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2169.13"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2170.4", "colnum": "2170", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Sir Hartley Shawcross)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Sir Hartley Shawcross)", "preceding_text": "ich we have. The simple way of looking at the matter is, of course, that these men are our men and the soldiers of our friends. They are fighting together under the banner of the United Nations, and they are being killed by the arms and the armies of China. The idea of maintaining trade relations with China in those circumstances may well, at first sight, seem something which is utterly repugnant—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2170.4"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2174.0", "colnum": "2174", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "Would the right hon. and learned Gentleman——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2173.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2188.1", "colnum": "2188", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clement Davies", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A pat on the back.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clement Davies", "preceding_text": " few moments. I should like to begin by congratulating the right hon. and learned Gentleman the President of the Board of Trade and thanking him for his full and very clear statement, which I hope will go a long way to allay anxieties both here and elsewhere. If I may say so to the right hon. and learned Gentleman, it was worthy of the highest traditions, not of his present office, but of the Bar.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2188.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2191.5", "colnum": "2191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mott-Radclyffe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mott-Radclyffe", "preceding_text": " the defence of the free world—the British Prime Minister and the American President—have met on only one occasion. We have been handicapped by the unfortunate fact that for the last months of his life the late Foreign Secretary was gravely ill. We are handicapped now by having a Foreign Secretary who is perhaps happier answering questions about the price of coffee at the Festival Exhibition than—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2191.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2204.1", "colnum": "2204", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "The facts given by the hon. Member for Wandsworth, Central (Mr. Adams), if facts they be, are not under our control. But the facts to which I shall refer in the five minutes at my disposal are certainly under our control. We have had a farrago of mistakes from the Government Front Bench from the moment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2204.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2204.1", "colnum": "2204", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: 'Rubber?'", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "ong, which sells most of its rubber imports to China, received 5,846 tons, a total, almost all of which went to China, of 9,000 tons to the value of £5 million odd. That is for last month alone. Let us take the statement made on 29th January, 1951, in the House, when the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs said: We are imposing restrictions on the export of strategic materials at present.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2204.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2207.7", "colnum": "2207", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "preceding_text": " rubber, they have been the subject of export licensing since 9th April, to prevent undue and enlarged quantities being sent to any particular destination. But there has not been and cannot be, I think, an absolute prohibiton to see that no rubber whatever gets to China.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 3rd May, 1951; Vol. 487, c. 1437.] That looks rather odd, only a week ago, now that we have today's decision.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2207.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2212.1", "colnum": "2212", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of State for Colonial Affairs (Mr. John Dugdale)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Light-headed.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of State for Colonial Affairs (Mr. John Dugdale)", "preceding_text": "Both the Leader of the Opposition and the hon. Member for Renfrew, West (Mr. Maclay) have talked as if the Government have in some way behaved in a lighthearted manner.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2212.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2213.1", "colnum": "2213", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The right hon. Gentleman has just come in.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brendan Bracken", "preceding_text": "May I interrupt for a moment——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2213.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2218.0", "colnum": "2218", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "eport is: It may be that with the removal of General MacArthur from Korea the atmosphere might improve, but we cannot tell. And in \"The Times,\" which was the report I had in my mind, it said: It may be that with the removal of General MacArthur the situation would improve. What I said was that he had said that now, perhaps, things will go better in Korea, once General MacArthur had been dismissed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2218.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2242.3", "colnum": "2242", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EX-PRISONERS OF WAR, JAPAN (COMPENSATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "preceding_text": "nciple here involved—this question of moral principle—that I believe it to be humbug, when so many people, women, children, old folk, were killed by the atom bombs at Nagasaki and Hiroshima. For every individual photograph that could be produced of a wounded and battered British prisoner of war in Japanese hands, I think one could find an equally horrible photograph of a victim of the atomic bomb.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2242.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2242.3", "colnum": "2242", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EX-PRISONERS OF WAR, JAPAN (COMPENSATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "preceding_text": "Friend of mine says that the two things are not comparable. I do not myself believe that it is possible to draw any distinctions in war between the brutalities on both sides. This is the real issue which we have to face. No war is pleasant. What the Japanese did to our prisoners of war in the last war could be found in the annals of the British treatment of their prisoners in the far distant past.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2242.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2242.3", "colnum": "2242", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EX-PRISONERS OF WAR, JAPAN (COMPENSATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "preceding_text": "ound in the annals of the British treatment of their prisoners in the far distant past. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] War from the beginning has been horrible. I am very sorry to disagree with so many hon. Gentlemen here, but I very strongly doubt whether in the last 400 years there have not been cruelties inflicted on prisoners held by the British similar to the ones inflicted on our men by the Japanese.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2242.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2244.1", "colnum": "2244", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EX-PRISONERS OF WAR, JAPAN (COMPENSATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "preceding_text": "I hope that I shall not be as unpopular with the House when I come to the second part of my speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2244.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2245.2", "colnum": "2245", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EX-PRISONERS OF WAR, JAPAN (COMPENSATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "preceding_text": "the last 400 years, and therefore I withdraw that statement unreservedly and leave it to each Member here to ask himself if he does not believe that there have been British atrocities similar to the ones perpetrated by the Japanese. It is inconceivable that in the history of the Colonial wars which this country has waged during the last 400 years there should not have been atrocities of that kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2245.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2261.1", "colnum": "2261", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EX-PRISONERS OF WAR, JAPAN (COMPENSATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "preceding_text": "Perhaps I might say that if the proposal is that there should be some kind of levy on Japanese trade in some form or another for many years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2261.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-10", "file": "debates1951-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "b3ce2420042ae008", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2292.1", "colnum": "2292", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (TRAFFIC CONTROL)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. de Freitas", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. de Freitas", "preceding_text": " London to see the sights and look at the lights possibly without even going into the Exhibition. That fact has to be faced by those people who live in London. An extremely important factor about such visitors is the weather, and we cannot say that up to the present, thanks to the weather, the scheme has been overworked. Let us consider for a moment what would happen if we had average May weather.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-10a.2292.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.14.0", "colnum": "14", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"In Coatbridge.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "I would not try to offer the Coatbridge figures without notice—I have them here; but let me say this, since I am invited to comment, that 50 per cent. of the women in Scotland—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.14.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.38.1", "colnum": "38", "heading": "ROAD HAULAGE STRIKE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Cannot the Minister of Transport give the desired information?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.38.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.66.3", "colnum": "66", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "preceding_text": "t is an essential condition, but it does not mean that there must be perpetual questioning as to the possibility of any new business being a success or not being a success. There is, however, one outstanding difference between the manner in which private enterprise and the Colonial Development Corporation approach any new business enterprise. Private enterprise asks only one question: will it pay?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.66.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.66.3", "colnum": "66", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dugdale", "preceding_text": "re must be perpetual questioning as to the possibility of any new business being a success or not being a success. There is, however, one outstanding difference between the manner in which private enterprise and the Colonial Development Corporation approach any new business enterprise. Private enterprise asks only one question: will it pay? [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] That is the one thing that matters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.66.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.89.1", "colnum": "89", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gammans", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gammans", "preceding_text": "gard for both these gentlemen. In fact, I think the benches opposite are the poorer because they are not here, and I am sure the Prime Minister would have been pleased to have lost other colleagues than those he did lose in February, 1950. But I want to deal with the principle, and I would raise it, quite frankly, whether we were dealing with ex-Conservative Members of Parliament or ex-Socialists.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.89.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.93.3", "colnum": "93", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gammans", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gammans", "preceding_text": "e other firm because he knows very well that all those enterprises could not be run successfully within one office. But here on the Colonial Development Corporation we load a whole variety of things. I am convinced that until the principle to which I have just alluded is accepted, we shall have a series of dreary reports winding up one venture after another. I welcome this Report, tragic as it is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.93.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.97.1", "colnum": "97", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harrison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Take an average.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harrison", "preceding_text": "I agree, but it is difficult for anyone to follow the reasoning of hon. Members opposite. One hon. Member tells us that private enterprise has been an enormous success and we draw certain conclusions from that. Another hon. Member says private enterprise has been a failure in certain cases and we draw certain conclusions from that also. It is very difficult to reconcile the two things.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.97.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.129.1", "colnum": "129", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hector Hughes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hector Hughes", "preceding_text": "sure of time I shall abandon one and communicate it to the Minister by letter. The point which I wish to put before the Committee is on the impact of this colonial development upon the industry of this country and on reciprocity between the Colonies and this country. I must not, however, omit to offer my respectful congratulations to the Minister for his factual, detailed and highly controversial—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.129.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.131.1", "colnum": "131", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "preceding_text": "ntebbe hotel was an outstanding commercial success. I do not know whether he knows much about it. I was in Entebbe myself a little while ago. The hotel managed to show £193 profit on £144,000 capital, so I do not think that can really be called an outstanding commercial success. In any case, one can always adjust the figures of income and expenditure so that they may show £193 profit or £193 loss.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.131.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.137.1", "colnum": "137", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Woods", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woods", "preceding_text": " such a statement wrong, and a further demonstration of their personal interest is shown by the fact that in this debate this afternoon the whole concern of the Conservative Party was centred on the idea of doing something for profit. They ask: Why does the Corporation not show a profit? They should know that at this stage no one with any intelligence would expect the Corporation to show a profit.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.137.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.139.7", "colnum": "139", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": "e of his ministerial colleagues would have called in earlier days the pretty poor bag of assets that he has inherited. When the Minister of Town and Country Planning first used that phrase—\"a pretty poor bag of assets\"—when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer to describe British Railways, he had a two-fold object in mind. He wanted to justify the payment of inadequate compensation for the railways—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.139.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.158.3", "colnum": "158", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COLONIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "o said, \"Well, that is one failure.\" I replied, \"We are discussing one scheme, the Gambia scheme, about which I suppose almost every one in the country has heard. How many people have heard of the other schemes?\" That is what the Opposition have done. They have given the country a completely distorted picture of what is being done. They even asked for a special debate on the Gambia Poultry Scheme.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.158.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6", "colnum": "161", "heading": "SULPHURIC ACID (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "ey which dealt with the supply of raw materials, and I think that the Economic Survey in that respect was right. Most of us are familiar with the fact that today ladies love what they call nylons. I do not suppose that the ordinary Member's wife, sister, aunt or whoever it may, be, when she puts on her nylons is what I call sulphuric acid conscious. Without sulphuric acid there would be no nylons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6", "colnum": "161", "heading": "SULPHURIC ACID (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So is the next for the hon. Member.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "and I have not a great deal of knowledge of chemistry, but I did learn a little about it and I can remember that water is H 2 O and that sulphuric acid is H 2 SO 4 . As I said earlier, this debate would have been conducted by two hon. Members who are really well informed in chemistry, but they could not be here and this is the last night when we can debate this Order. The world is full of sulphur.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6", "colnum": "161", "heading": "SULPHURIC ACID (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "ubles. Sulphur has a very low melting point, namely, 113 degrees Centigrade, which is about 250 degrees Fahrenheit. The method of extracting it is to send down high temperature steam, though I do not know to what depth. I believe it is 1,000 or 2,000 feet. Then through long pipes it is pumped out and dried, and so there is elemental sulphur in this raw state as it is procured in the United States,", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6", "colnum": "161", "heading": "SULPHURIC ACID (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What has this to do with the Order?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "t. Then through long pipes it is pumped out and dried, and so there is elemental sulphur in this raw state as it is procured in the United States, [ Laughter. ] I do not know what hon. Members are laughing at. This is really very important and I have taken a good deal of trouble to find out the facts. Surely the facts are worth listening to, and if anyone challenges them I will endeavour to reply.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6", "colnum": "161", "heading": "SULPHURIC ACID (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"This is a lecture.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "e to find out the facts. Surely the facts are worth listening to, and if anyone challenges them I will endeavour to reply. [An HON. MEMBER: \"What has this to do with the Order?\"] It has everything to do with the question. There are two methods of getting sulphuric acid. One is based on what I call elemental sulphur, which is not a combination of other chemicals, and the other methods is different.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.161.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.164.1", "colnum": "164", "heading": "SULPHURIC ACID (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "st possible character, of the reaction on this country of a shortage of sulphur and sulphuric acid. If the shortage is due to the fact that the Government, by this Order—that is the issue I am discussing—made sulphuric acid too cheap to attract production from these other sources—from gypsum, anhydrites, pyrites, and the rest of them—then we shall be face to face with what? With vast unemployment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.164.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-29", "file": "debates1951-05-29a.xml", "sha256": "5d8414c4387d2cf6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.164.1", "colnum": "164", "heading": "SULPHURIC ACID (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "d the rest of them—then we shall be face to face with what? With vast unemployment. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh.\"] Oh, yes—the textile industry, the motorcar industry, the tinplate industry. There will be a shortage of tinplate to can foods. There will be a shortage of fertilisers for agriculture. This is a major issue. I am delighted that at this late hour so many hon. Members on both sides have stayed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-29a.164.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.202.5", "colnum": "202", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ALBANIA (BRITISH CLAIM)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not by a Foreign Secretary.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "It is an old and perfectly legitimate technique which previous Governments have followed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.202.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.211.6", "colnum": "211", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ST. GEORGE'S DAY (RECOGNITION)", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Rayner", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Rayner", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that we can fairly deduce from our history that St. George as the patron Saint is far more representative of the British character than St. Andrew, St. David or St. Patrick—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.211.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.218.4", "colnum": "218", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARMED FORCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "Of course, the matter can be considered on an inter-Service basis—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Has it been considered?\"] The Question has been answered.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.218.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.243.4", "colnum": "243", "heading": "Clause 4.—(RETIREMENT PENSIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "preceding_text": "No. The point I am making is that this is a general, sweeping, provision to cover all cases. If we have identifiable diseases the rule can be worked but if there is a sweeping declaration I say the rule is quite unworkable in practice. What the Amendment is really trying to do is to get round the previous decision of the House by the back door—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.243.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.294.8", "colnum": "294", "heading": "Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF POWER TO MAKE ADVANCES TO NATIONAL COAL BOARD, AND OF TEMPORARY BORROWING POWERS OF BOARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Raikes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Raikes", "preceding_text": "ich is that during the last six years, while the Minister had power to borrow up to £150 million, he has borrowed only to the extent of £33 million net. But the other two reasons which I propose to adduce to the Committee are more important than the first one. The second reason is that in the last year the general international situation has altered very greatly, and as a result of the alteration—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.294.8"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.313.4", "colnum": "313", "heading": "Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF POWER TO MAKE ADVANCES TO NATIONAL COAL BOARD, AND OF TEMPORARY BORROWING POWERS OF BOARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Neal", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Neal", "preceding_text": "e Board. What it does do, and what must indeed be done, is to ensure that the Board can borrow the amount that seems necessary, on any sober calculation, if we are to achieve the coal production required. That is why we must offer opposition to this Amendment. The reduction in the Board's borrowing powers of one-sixth obviously must create a reduction of one-sixth in the calculated output by 1960.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.313.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.336.3", "colnum": "336", "heading": "Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF POWER TO MAKE ADVANCES TO NATIONAL COAL BOARD, AND OF TEMPORARY BORROWING POWERS OF BOARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robson-Brown", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robson-Brown", "preceding_text": "I stand corrected by you, Major Milner, and I will not make any further reference to a general wages policy, except to say this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.336.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.343.5", "colnum": "343", "heading": "Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF POWER TO MAKE ADVANCES TO NATIONAL COAL BOARD, AND OF TEMPORARY BORROWING POWERS OF BOARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "o not now foresee. It may frustrate its purposes by making it not so easy for the Board to get on with its investments. I do not think that it would add to the real control which Parliament possesses. I hope therefore that the hon. and gallant Gentleman and his colleagues will not press this Amendment. I add that if they feel very strongly about it I will consider it again before the Report stage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.343.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.344.0", "colnum": "344", "heading": "Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF POWER TO MAKE ADVANCES TO NATIONAL COAL BOARD, AND OF TEMPORARY BORROWING POWERS OF BOARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "lled the \"Financial Times,\" which praised the admirable statistics of the Coal Board. Nobody has ever cast any doubt about the Coal Board's capacity to produce statistics, but we all very much deplore their incapacity to produce coal. The Coal Board produce more statistics than coal, and, in my judgment, more slate than coke. However, when we have a generous offer by a Minister, we must accept it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.344.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-30", "file": "debates1951-05-30a.xml", "sha256": "7857c53f405d2c04", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.360.2", "colnum": "360", "heading": "Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF POWER TO MAKE ADVANCES TO NATIONAL COAL BOARD, AND OF TEMPORARY BORROWING POWERS OF BOARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "ld be able to borrow £20 million. That is twice the present borrowing power and it is not very reassuring, certainly not to a Caledonian. The Minister's explanation, like the peace of God, passeth all under- standing. On the other hand, I know he means well; there is no doubt about that. But I feel that from the point of view of flocculence no politician has ever equalled the right hon. Gentleman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-30a.360.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-31", "file": "debates1951-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "316d7dfc0d732c6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.381.0", "colnum": "381", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ANGLO-CANADIAN TRADE COMMITTEE (RECOMMENDATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not large-scale.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "Naturally, I will look into the matter if the hon. Member sends me whatever he has in his possession. But I do not accept the allegation that there has not been a meeting of the Commonwealth on these matters for 19 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.381.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-31", "file": "debates1951-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "316d7dfc0d732c6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.391.2", "colnum": "391", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRADE AND COMMERCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Glanville", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Glanville", "preceding_text": "Is it not a fact that although some of these countries may be Communist countries they are none the less friendly Powers?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.391.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-31", "file": "debates1951-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "316d7dfc0d732c6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.422.9", "colnum": "422", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RIVERS (PREVENTION OF POLLUTION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Major Legge-Bourke", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Major Legge-Bourke", "preceding_text": "g a collective noun include itself. When one does that, one gets the position of torturing the English language to a degree which is never justified. By saying that a stream includes a stream and other things, it means that the stream includes itself and other things and therefore is greater than itself, yet being a part of what is greater than the whole, it is also smaller than the greater whole.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.422.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-31", "file": "debates1951-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "316d7dfc0d732c6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.547.1", "colnum": "547", "heading": "EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And your statements, too.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "timony—I do not say it is necessarily correct—given yesterday by Admiral Sherman, the last of the Chiefs of Staff to be called before the Senate Committee investigating certain matters in America. There is a great deal of difference between sworn testimony by a Chief of Staff and statements made at the Dispatch Box and capable of being denied, as has so frequently happened, in the next day or two.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.547.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-05-31", "file": "debates1951-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "316d7dfc0d732c6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.553.5", "colnum": "553", "heading": "EXPORTS TO CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. That is absolutely—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-05-31a.553.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-01", "file": "debates1951-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "a915e0147b704cd1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.559.1", "colnum": "559", "heading": "GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND ACT, 1920", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "nse. I am here in the name of decent conduct in a decent community. I remind myself that we carry a special responsibility for Northern Ireland. If my correspondents had drawn my attention to Gibraltar rather than to Spain, I might have been on my feet in this House. If it was in Gibraltar that the Nonconformist chapels had been closed down, I should certainly have been here with my protestations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.559.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-01", "file": "debates1951-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "a915e0147b704cd1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.575.0", "colnum": "575", "heading": "GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND ACT, 1920", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "Ah.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.575.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-01", "file": "debates1951-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "a915e0147b704cd1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.596.1", "colnum": "596", "heading": "GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND ACT, 1920", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "That is not the position. I say that where partial or full self-government has been conferred on a country it is a complete innovation for a Motion of this kind to be brought forward.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.596.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-01", "file": "debates1951-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "a915e0147b704cd1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.600.6", "colnum": "600", "heading": "GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND ACT, 1920", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "it did not very much please the present Leader of the Opposition, or any Member of the Liberal Party. I remember, as if it were only yesterday, Mr. Bonar Law recalling what Lord Randolph Churchill said—\"Ulster will fight and Ulster will be right.\" He was supported by the whole Conservative Party at that time, and he rightly said that if it was decided to confer self-government on Southern Ireland—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.600.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-01", "file": "debates1951-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "a915e0147b704cd1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.604.3", "colnum": "604", "heading": "GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND ACT, 1920", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Thirty years ago.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "lso were those of the noble Lord. But they were not the first people killed in Ireland, they were not the first people who were murdered, they were not the first people done to death in frightful circumstances. So it is no good hon. Gentlemen on that side of the House trying to dismiss an argument about civil liberties by saying that some people were murdered in the most disgraceful circumstances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.604.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-01", "file": "debates1951-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "a915e0147b704cd1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.616.0", "colnum": "616", "heading": "GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND ACT, 1920", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\".", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "Would the hon. Member add that out of 40 bungalows only three were allocated to Protestants and 37 to Roman Catholics, and out of 72 houses only seven were let to Protestants and 65 to Roman Catholics? That is now—today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.616.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-01", "file": "debates1951-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "a915e0147b704cd1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.638.3", "colnum": "638", "heading": "GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND ACT, 1920", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is the matter with that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "t be afraid to support the Unionist cause when houses became vacant. That is the practice of the sort of sectarianism of which one complains. One really needs to go a little further than just to say that these things all happen by accident. Here is a document the \"Voice of Ulster,\" which is issued by the Ulster Unionist Council, an official body. They put on the front a Union Jack in three places.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-01a.638.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-04", "file": "debates1951-06-04a.xml", "sha256": "de17f000c2b1d25a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-04a.667.7", "colnum": "667", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ELECTRICITY SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "A large number were, of course, begun before B.E.A. came into being, but mainly by publicly-owned enterprises. Out of 60, all but three were by publicly-owned enterprises. I do not think that the delays are any longer now than they used to be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-04a.667.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-04", "file": "debates1951-06-04a.xml", "sha256": "de17f000c2b1d25a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-04a.668.1", "colnum": "668", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ELECTRICITY SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir. But in America they have a much less dense population than we have—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-04a.668.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-04", "file": "debates1951-06-04a.xml", "sha256": "de17f000c2b1d25a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-04a.711.0", "colnum": "711", "heading": "Clause 2.—(ADJUSTMENT OF COMPENSATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bracken", "preceding_text": "rage the hon. Member for Ayrshire, South (Mr. Emrys Hughes)—whom the other night I rightly called the arch-druid—in this idea of \"forward by default.\" The Minister talks about the \"burden laid on the coal industry.\" Is it a burden if somebody else's property is taken? Why should a Minister of the Crown use such language in this Committee? Is it a burden when somebody else's property is taken away?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-04a.711.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-04", "file": "debates1951-06-04a.xml", "sha256": "de17f000c2b1d25a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-04a.727.0", "colnum": "727", "heading": "First Schedule.—(ENACTMENTS REPLACED BY THIS ACT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. York", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. York", "preceding_text": "enter into the matter at all. I had no notion and said nothing in my speech about whether Surrey was a greater area or a lesser area. What I am concerned only with is the question of the pollution of rivers and the cleaning up of the rivers. The hon. Gentleman did not try to answer the case, because he knows perfectly well he cannot answer it. There is no answer, and if he is fool enough to think—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-04a.727.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.781.12", "colnum": "781", "heading": "PETITION", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "preceding_text": "o reduction, but merely that the Duty shall so be imposed that they, in their turn, can meet their duties to the public. They have fair and just costs to meet, including lighting, furnishings, and wages. They can meet them only if, in regard to the tax they are called upon to provide, they may, in turn, charge a proper and fair price to the public. No doubt, if the Budget pro- posals are accepted—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.781.12"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.797.1", "colnum": "797", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Three Ministers.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carmichael", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. It should be understood in the House that Scotland has only one Minister to answer for seven or eight Departments—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.797.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.799.7", "colnum": "799", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. The last three Questions have been asked by a Parliamentary Private Secretary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.799.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.804.8", "colnum": "804", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Miss Burton", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Burton", "preceding_text": "While assuring my right hon. Friend that both I and the men who have written to me from Korea realise that no one is more anxious than he that justice should be done in this matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.804.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.844.0", "colnum": "844", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macdonald", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macdonald", "preceding_text": "e it being increased, but I feel that an increase in those costs would be felt less by the community as a whole in the cost of living than would be the effects of adding to the petrol tax generally on commercial and industrial petrol and the by-products. I want to make a suggestion to the Chancellor which, at first, may sound a very horrible one, and that is that we should re-introduce red petrol.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.844.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.844.0", "colnum": "844", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macdonald", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, no.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macdonald", "preceding_text": "sts. A very heavy penalty would be applied to people who misused it for private motoring. I feel that unless we make some stand now to differentiate between petrol for commercial use and petrol for private motoring there will be an ever increasing spiral of cost arising out of the general petrol tax. I shall support the Government in a Division on this matter, not because I welcome the petrol tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.844.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.851.3", "colnum": "851", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Air Commodore Harvey", "preceding_text": "be made, but perhaps I may be allowed to make just one. I suggest that the Ministry of Civil Aviation should be abolished. That is one; there are numerous others that have been outlined in the House time and time again. This £35 million is wanted, as my right hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Gainsborough (Captain Crookshank) said, for it coincides with the sum lost on the ground nuts scheme.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.851.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.857.0", "colnum": "857", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A proper racket&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "ese three factors—and it is the combination with which we ought to be concerned—must have a direct and onerous bearing on the cost of distribution of everything that is essential in our daily lives. Hon. Members have mentioned bread, coal and clothing. The hon. Lady the Member for Coventry, South (Miss Burton), tends to specialise in the subject of vegetables and fruit sold in greengrocers' shops.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.857.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.857.0", "colnum": "857", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "ntry, South (Miss Burton), tends to specialise in the subject of vegetables and fruit sold in greengrocers' shops. [HON. MEMBERS: \"A proper racket&#x0021;\"] Yes, a proper Socialist racket, derived primarily from excessive costs of distribution. I speak with some authority in this matter, because a very important fruit and vegetable producing area is to be found in Worcestershire and Herefordshire.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.857.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.859.0", "colnum": "859", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "Surely the hon. Member is aware that over the last year there has been a tendency for profit margins to increase?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.859.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.859.3", "colnum": "859", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "lor is the chief beneficiary, for he takes something like £2 out of every £3 of gross profits made. To pursue my original argument, every necessity of life is increased in cost by reason of this inflationary duty. The old battle-cry of hon. Members opposite, \"Soak the rich,\" is wearing thin today, and the Socialist policy is now a direct one of \"Soak the poor.\" That is all this Measure represents.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.859.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.859.3", "colnum": "859", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Tell us.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "are another 37 Clauses to follow, and that practically every hon. Member on this side of the House who has spoken in any Budget debate, particularly on the Committee stage of the Finance Bill in the last five years, as practically every hon. Member has done, has made a large number of suggestions to the Government as to where a multiplicity of economies, large, medium and small, could be effected—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.859.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.863.3", "colnum": "863", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "It might be paid for in two ways. In one case by the total increase in productivity of the whole nation, thus increasing the national income, or partly by economies which we are convinced could be effected in Government expenditure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.863.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.863.4", "colnum": "863", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "f the war, and the hon. Member is giving a false impression if he puts that forward. Again and again this afternoon we have had from hon. Members opposite the phrase \"the last straw\" They have said that this increase in taxation is the last straw which will break the camel's back. We have had the last straw argument now for six years and on this side we are getting sick of the cry of \"wolf, wolf.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.863.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.872.3", "colnum": "872", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Groundnuts.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "I pass to another point. Is there any sense of responsibility in the attitude now being taken up by the Opposition? If they press the matter home, what they want to do in reality is to take away £35 million from the Exchequer. If they do that there is a bounden duty upon them either to indicate clearly where that £35 million can be saved—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.872.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.872.3", "colnum": "872", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "s to another point. Is there any sense of responsibility in the attitude now being taken up by the Opposition? If they press the matter home, what they want to do in reality is to take away £35 million from the Exchequer. If they do that there is a bounden duty upon them either to indicate clearly where that £35 million can be saved—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Groundnuts.\"] That has passed away into oblivion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.872.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.872.3", "colnum": "872", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "ters is how expenditure is cut and whether the expenditure that is subject to a cut is essential to the well being of the country. Let me assume that the Opposition are right in wishing to cut taxation. Is this the only vital part of the taxation which the country has to face? Is this the particular kind of tax that should be abolished? Is this a tax that will weigh heavily on the ordinary worker?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.872.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.873.1", "colnum": "873", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "No, I am not giving way. That indicates to any logical mind—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.873.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.873.1", "colnum": "873", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, there is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": " the street, because profiteers are not prepared to reduce their profits. Despite the agony of the country, they wish to maintain their profits not only as they were, but in a rising category. That is the general position. There are other taxes which to my mind are weighing heavily on the people, but there is no Amendment in respect of them. For instance, there is no Amendment on the Purchase Tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.873.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.873.1", "colnum": "873", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "duce their profits. Despite the agony of the country, they wish to maintain their profits not only as they were, but in a rising category. That is the general position. There are other taxes which to my mind are weighing heavily on the people, but there is no Amendment in respect of them. For instance, there is no Amendment on the Purchase Tax. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, there is.\"] I have not seen one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.873.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.907.3", "colnum": "907", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Williams", "preceding_text": "luding Falmouth, Scarborough, and particularly Scotland. I put the date rather later than I might otherwise have done, because I considered places in the North country as well. This will include some seaside resorts not so very far from your own constituency, Major Milner. I felt bound to represent them in this Committee because, after all, I represent the most important of all the seaside places.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.907.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.907.3", "colnum": "907", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Williams", "preceding_text": " [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I am glad to find that is so widely admitted. There is another point which ought to be considered. We should also have regard to the winter seasons for cinemas and other entertainments of that kind. I know that we have to choose some date, but I should have thought that from the point of view of programmes of that sort October would be a far better time for this than August.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.907.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.930.0", "colnum": "930", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Romance?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGovern", "preceding_text": "e pictures. They have very little colour in life, and therefore they get out to see romance, the Mounties, the gangsters. They see every form of entertainment according to their taste, and we ought to ensure that they enjoy it as much as possible. In passing, I have a confession to make. If I had any amount of spare time I would spend a great deal of it in the cinema, only I would choose my films.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.930.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.943.0", "colnum": "943", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": " hon. Friend the Member for Nottingham, North-West, is responsible, the noble Lord has an opportunity to make recommendations to the film companies with which he is associated. They are some of the richest in the country and have been making heavy profits in recent years. He might recommend that they might distribute some of those profits which amounted to some £700 million or so in a recent year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.943.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.945.1", "colnum": "945", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "n out by the body which is supposed to represent them. It is because of that that I have intervened in this debate in the hope that these negotiations with the Chancellor can carry through this proposal. I think the Government's further proposals after the Budget are better than their Budget proposals, and that they should certainly be accepted by the industry, in the interests of the cinemagoers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.945.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.954.3", "colnum": "954", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"With the mayor and corporation?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "No, it was a Sunday afternoon. I was in church in the morning.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.954.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.958.0", "colnum": "958", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Oliver Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Oliver Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "always to be unprofitable, as the Plant Report says it will be, then losses made against production will in the end result in bad debts. There is a game that I suppose every parent has played with his children, taking from one hand and putting in another. My hon. Friends tell me it is called \"Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker's man.\" That is exactly what the Government is doing with the film industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.958.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.958.0", "colnum": "958", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Oliver Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Oliver Lyttelton", "preceding_text": " fits and starts. If the exhibitor wants another penny to cover his costs and a reasonable profit on a seat costing 1s. 4&#x00BD;d. without tax, he will have to pay 2d. tax on the increase, and the penny for himself makes 3d. to the public. On a 2s. 6d. seat the difference goes as to a halfpenny to the exhibitor and 6&#x00BD;d. to the Chancellor. Not only are these figures in themselves anomalous—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.958.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.965.0", "colnum": "965", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "I am not quoting from any document, and I am in a difficult position if one right hon. Gentleman asks me to give the information and another suggests that it will be wrong to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.965.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-05", "file": "debates1951-06-05a.xml", "sha256": "ce55597cb6ff16a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.965.3", "colnum": "965", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "preceding_text": "mittee when the Financial Secretary made his speech. The hon. Gentleman did not limit himself, as he might well have done, if he had been wise, to saying that negotiations were going on, that they were confidential and that he was not going to say anything about the proposals. He quoted details of them, and quoted proposals made by the Treasury about what was to be done for children. If he quoted—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-05a.965.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.979.5", "colnum": "979", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CHINA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevins", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that, during the period referred to, at least four prominent members of the British Communist Party have visited the Communist leaders in China?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.979.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.987.6", "colnum": "987", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOREIGN MINISTERS' CONFERENCE, PARIS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "Is the Foreign Secretary aware that I am not concerned with Russian interests?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.987.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.988.7", "colnum": "988", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HAIFA", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "What would you do, chum?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds-Parker", "preceding_text": "Has the Foreign Secretary any alternative suggestion for getting this badly needed oil production back into operation, and, if so, will he disclose it to the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.988.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1017.3", "colnum": "1017", "heading": "KOREA (OPERATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who caused it all?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "Can the Minister give any information on the statement made by the Reconstruction Officer of the United Nations in Korea that there have been one million civilian casualties and that there are three million refugees on the roads? When will he say something about that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1017.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1034.0", "colnum": "1034", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "ustries to know where they stand. I was delighted to hear the right hon. and learned Gentleman say quite as definitely as he did—I hope that he will not go back on this—that it is the Government's intention to go ahead with a single tariff code. I do not remember the Labour Party ever having previously announced the intention of going ahead with any tariff code. Certainly, if they intend to marry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1034.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1035.0", "colnum": "1035", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Williams", "preceding_text": " years between the wars when the Socialists were always saying that nothing good was done. Now in this matter, as in other matters, the Socialists see the value of Conservative legislation and Conservative policy. I congratulate the right hon. and learned Gentleman on having got some common sense into some of the professors one sees at the back of him. Lawyers are bad enough; professors are worse.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1035.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1077.1", "colnum": "1077", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Ian Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Ian Fraser", "preceding_text": "ds upon them for the sale of a great many commodities, one of the most important among which is tobacco and cigarettes. It is not a very big turnover which is involved, but it is very important. Apparently, from what I can gather, we are going to undermine this very important trade in selling tobacco and cigarettes by permitting moving vehicles, notably fried fish shops, to proceed to the village—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1077.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1079.2", "colnum": "1079", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Glenvil Hall", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who says that?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Glenvil Hall", "preceding_text": "e village shop, which the hon. Member for Morecambe and Lonsdale said is one of the great bulwarks of this country. That, however, is not what will happen. The Clause says that a licence will only be granted for an exceptional and temporary need. If there is a shop selling tobacco in a village, then, quite obviously, such a licence would not be issued to a registered goods van plying in that area.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1079.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1080.3", "colnum": "1080", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Glenvil Hall", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Glenvil Hall", "preceding_text": "I happen to represent a constituency which, in winter, is often snowbound. It is a serious complaint among people who live in remote villages on the main spur of the Pennines, an area which I represent, that in winter they are unable to reach the nearest town because the bus service is inadequate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1080.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1109.1", "colnum": "1109", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": " which arose 100 years ago and to believe that today the vast majority of industrialists recognise they have three responsibilities. The first responsibility they recognise is to the consumer. The second is to their workpeople, to provide regular employment, decent wages and adequate conditions. The third, if there is anything left in the kitty when those two responsibilities have been discharged—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1109.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1112.7", "colnum": "1112", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman says he wished that Surtax worried him. At least he had as good a start in life as I did. He had the same chances—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1112.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1112.7", "colnum": "1112", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman says he wished that Surtax worried him. At least he had as good a start in life as I did. He had the same chances—[ Interruption. ]—that is quite fair—he had the same chance, and if he has failed, he has failed because he is a failure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1112.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1122.3", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who invented the washing machine?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": "I do not suggest that; I was following the suggestion which the hon. Gentleman himself had made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1122.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1125.3", "colnum": "1125", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nigel Birch", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nigel Birch", "preceding_text": "ng to be said for more direct taxation at the lower levels. I agree with him, too, when he implied that he had no sympathy with those who leave a single talent unoccupied, and I have some sympathy with him in the remarks which he made about profits. We must have profits if we are to have industry at all. He introduced the old bogey of the bonus shares. I do not think that we will argue that again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1125.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1139.0", "colnum": "1139", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ivor Owen Thomas", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Do not forget the Whigs.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ivor Owen Thomas", "preceding_text": "of of the utter irresponsibility of Government Departments, and even of Governments, in the face of terrible social tragedies, and of the failure of such Governments and Departments to face up to those responsibilities. I was interested to note that he went back for that illustration to days when politics were practically dominated by Toryism of the old school, and, perhaps, of the old school tie.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1139.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5", "colnum": "1141", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "o the matter which the Committee is discussing. The hon. Member for Flint, West, went as far back as the middle of the last century, and I thought that I was at least equally in order in saying what I have been saying for the last five minutes when we remember that the hon. Member was holding forth about the merits and virtues of previous Tory Governments. In any event, I will leave that question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5", "colnum": "1141", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "ts. In any event, I will leave that question. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] If hon. Members opposite were not quite so conceited and vain they would admit that there may be a possibility of their learning from something said from this side of the Committee as well as from listening to the profound economic analysis of their own purported leaders in the field of economics. This scale of Income Tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5", "colnum": "1141", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "ERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] If hon. Members opposite were not quite so conceited and vain they would admit that there may be a possibility of their learning from something said from this side of the Committee as well as from listening to the profound economic analysis of their own purported leaders in the field of economics. This scale of Income Tax—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]; this scale of Income Tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5", "colnum": "1141", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "uite so conceited and vain they would admit that there may be a possibility of their learning from something said from this side of the Committee as well as from listening to the profound economic analysis of their own purported leaders in the field of economics. This scale of Income Tax—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]; this scale of Income Tax—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.]; this scale of Income Tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5", "colnum": "1141", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "S: \"Hear, hear.\"]; this scale of Income Tax—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.]; this scale of Income Tax—[ Laughter. ] I will vary it a little if hon. Members like. The scale of Income Tax arises particularly from a few outstanding facts. The hon. Member for Windsor (Mr. Mott-Radclyffe) seemed to develop the argument that if any other Government were in power they could slash expenditure right and left.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1141.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1142.1", "colnum": "1142", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We started them.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "ication as to what part of the national expenditure they would slash for the purposes of economy. I shall put some definite questions to the Opposition which I hope will be answered before the debate on the Bill concludes. 10.15 p.m. The first question is this. They plead for economy—the reduction of national expenditure. Would the Opposition, if they were the Government, reduce family allowances?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1142.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1143.1", "colnum": "1143", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Thomas", "preceding_text": "On a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1143.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1144.1", "colnum": "1144", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where to?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": " will be the result? The right hon. Gentleman is trying to freeze capital in this country and stop its export. What he cannot do is stop the export of the brains and knowledge which know how to use that capital. It is the high rate of taxation on individuals and the enormous weight which is put upon them as administrators of public money entrusted to them which is driving them out of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1144.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1147.3", "colnum": "1147", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman nods his head repudiating it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1147.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1148.0", "colnum": "1148", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "t must be remembered that our expenditure on armaments is going to rise very steeply in the second and third years—1952&#x2013;53 and 1953&#x2013;54. If our affairs and finances had been prudently managed by the right hon. Gentleman's predecessors, we could certainly have financed the first year's armament programme without anything like the increase now proposed, and perhaps without any increase.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1148.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1148.0", "colnum": "1148", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": ", we could certainly have financed the first year's armament programme without anything like the increase now proposed, and perhaps without any increase. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] We cannot, however, re-write the history of the last six years, but must face the realities of the day. What we can and must do is to see that the Government tackles the subject of its expenditure now and starts pruning now.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1148.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1148.0", "colnum": "1148", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": " Income Tax. Compare that £16 million with the £4,333 million which has to be raised in taxation. It is upon those figures that I based my statement, which I repeat, that the top levels of taxation are not intended for revenue purposes at all but as punishment. They are intended as punishment on success at a time when what we want is private enterprise and the urge to increase our national wealth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1148.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1154.3", "colnum": "1154", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "g an ever-decreasing supply of goods. It is with at one and the same time a deep sense of the way our affairs have been managed in the past, but also with a deep sense of responsibility, that we must not neglect even a partial deflationary measure, that I propose to advise my right hon. and hon. Friends to let this Clause go without a Division. We feel we shall have done our duty in discussing it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1154.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1160.1", "colnum": "1160", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "That has nothing to do with it. I am talking about the definition of profit, and their conclusion is totally different from that of the hon. Member. They support the definition of the Inland Revenue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1160.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1160.1", "colnum": "1160", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Another lecture.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "That has nothing to do with it. I am talking about the definition of profit, and their conclusion is totally different from that of the hon. Member. They support the definition of the Inland Revenue. [ Interruption. ] It is not in the least dishonest. It is well known. The right hon. Gentleman probably has not read the Report. If he does he will find that what I have said is true.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1160.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1160.1", "colnum": "1160", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "ot of lectures from Members opposite. The second point I was going to make is that the hon. Member is, in fact suggesting that the definition should be altered so as to take away less in taxation from companies. At the same time, he seemed to be disavowing any intention that he was going to alter the position of the shareholders. My hon. Friend the Member for Edmonton (Mr. Albu) pointed out fairly", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1160.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1164.1", "colnum": "1164", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "Certainly all the main ones that would bring in all the money were—for example, the abolition of any subsidy for children's meals. Really, the right hon. Gentleman cannot be allowed to get away with these facile explanations of how they would do it. The fact is that it is the Opposition's view that we should not in these last years have developed the social services in the way we have.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1164.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1169.1", "colnum": "1169", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": "Surely it would be better to divide the time. The right hon. Gentleman can see his supporters are as fresh as daisies. It would be better for us to go on for two hours now—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1169.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1169.4", "colnum": "1169", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Butcher", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Butcher", "preceding_text": "ar that the Government's intention is to stifle debate and that they are studying solely the comfort and convenience of their own supporters. The hon. Baronet the Member for Gravesend (Sir R. Acland) said that we have cars in which to go home. If anyone living on the south side of London is inconvenienced, I, and I am sure many of my hon. Friends, will be happy to see that they reach their homes.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1169.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1172.1", "colnum": "1172", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Peter Macdonald", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ministers' cars.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Peter Macdonald", "preceding_text": "many Clauses in this Finance Bill to be dealt with. We are told that the number of days for discussion is limited. Therefore, why should we not make the most of today, for instance? We have still a number of hours which could be used. I am told that the question of transport is worrying hon. Members opposite, but honestly I have never seen so many cars packing New Palace Yard as there are tonight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1172.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1179.3", "colnum": "1179", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I am very glad indeed, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, that you have not dismissed the matter summarily. It is quite certain that hon. Members ought not to thrust their way violently into the Lobbies, as happened a few weeks ago, or, should they be caught in the wrong Lobby, be debarred from recording their votes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1179.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-06", "file": "debates1951-06-06a.xml", "sha256": "1c313c109f7503b1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1179.3", "colnum": "1179", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Harried.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "red from recording their votes. [ Laughter. ] These are not laughing matters. We could easily come to physical violence if we wanted to. The object of Parliament is to substitute argument for fisticuffs. I thank you very much for saying that this matter will receive a searching inquiry under the authority of Mr. Speaker. If it be found that the hon. Gentleman was improperly or unfairly obstructed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-06a.1179.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1239.3", "colnum": "1239", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "ny of us are inclined to do—I am sure I do it myself from time to time—and that is to prove far more than he intends to prove. What he is saying is that if a man earning £15,000 a year or more could only be saved from all this tax, he would work so much harder that production would be increased and everybody would benefit. Is it an argument which is limited to a man who is earning £15,000 or more?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1239.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1257.0", "colnum": "1257", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "hon. Gentlemen opposite can dispute that there are many cases in this country of that kind. When taxation becomes a burden to a person, no matter what his station in life, it acts as a disincentive to carrying on and working harder. For that reason I believe that I am speaking for a fair number of people. It is a matter of the national interest, which we ought to consider free from party politics.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1257.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1273.2", "colnum": "1273", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Miss. Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss. Ward", "preceding_text": "Will you reconsider your selection, Sir Charles?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1273.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1281.1", "colnum": "1281", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Miss. Ward", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Miss. Ward", "preceding_text": "I need not proceed further with that subject. It is now on record. The money could be found from various sources. If the hon. Gentleman likes to invite me to come and tell him about that, I should be delighted to accept an invitation. Another point I want to make is that I think that the hon. Gentleman has failed to take into consideration that both bachelors and spinsters—and I mix them together—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1281.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1298.1", "colnum": "1298", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "Shame&#x0021; They should be locked up—the lot of them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1298.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1298.4", "colnum": "1298", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "Like most hon. Members I try to stick to the subject before the Committee. I always do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1298.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1298.4", "colnum": "1298", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He would be a millionaire.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "t it would give a greater incentive to this section of the community. If that be so—and the hon. Member for Edgbaston (Sir P. Bennett) has admitted it—I should have thought that I was in order in dealing with the question of incentive. I may be wrong. I believe that the ordinary man has more moral quality than hon. Members opposite seem to think. I believe that the man who is making £2,000 a week—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1298.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1298.4", "colnum": "1298", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Scotsman?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKay", "preceding_text": "dmitted it—I should have thought that I was in order in dealing with the question of incentive. I may be wrong. I believe that the ordinary man has more moral quality than hon. Members opposite seem to think. I believe that the man who is making £2,000 a week—[HON. MEMBERS: \"He would be a millionaire.\"]—we all make mistakes; the man who is earning £2,000 a year, the ordinary reasonable Englishman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1298.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1301.5", "colnum": "1301", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the Civil Service?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": " Bennett), who moved the Amendment, spoke in terms of industry—there is a remedy. If, in fact, the managements and the directors of the firms feel that their chief technicians, engineers—the people of the class of which the hon. and gallant Member for Scotstoun was speaking—really are under-paid, there is nothing to prevent them from increasing their salaries and putting the matter right that way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1301.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1314.0", "colnum": "1314", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "I am obliged to the right hon. and gallant Gentleman for giving way. I did not, of course, suggest that there should be a general increase in salary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1314.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1331.0", "colnum": "1331", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When was that?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": " an allowance by which a small unearned income gets the earned income relief, on the ground, as an hon. Gentleman has said, that it is, in a sense, equivalent to a pension. This relief, like the Petrol Duty, is a financial child of the Leader of the Opposition. It was the Leader of the Opposition who, when he introduced it, set the limit to the size of the income at which the relief would operate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1331.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1345.0", "colnum": "1345", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "The Chairman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "I assumed that the one covered the other.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1345.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1359.3", "colnum": "1359", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "ort continues—and this is even more pertinent—in paragraph 124: Much of the 200 million tons of coal used in this country every year is wastefully burnt. An irreplaceable asset on which the country's industrial future depends is too often being squandered. Paragraph 125 sets out three problems. The first is to make coal go further. The second and third problems would, Sir Charles, be out of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1359.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1365.1", "colnum": "1365", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "t. in the first year and commensurately less in the remaining life of the plant. Before the introduction of initial allowances the plant or equipment was allowed for depreciation purposes in equal annual sums over the whole life of the plant. Therefore, the initial allowance is only an interest-free loan. What I am trying to explain to the learned Attorney-General, who I hope will be answering me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1365.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1368.2", "colnum": "1368", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is only one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "While I am always prepared to listen to an hon. Member who is capable of giving advice, I should state in this instance that I have operated these plants for many years past; furthermore, I have bought such plants, particularly as an insurance policy against power cuts. I hope that the Committee will bear with me while I read a letter which expresses the experience of an undertaking in Norwich—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1368.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1387.0", "colnum": "1387", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henry Usborne", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henry Usborne", "preceding_text": "alling fuel-saving appliances is often the case for doing mechanically what an intelligent stoker ought to be able to do himself. Therefore, the real thing to do with a firm that wastes a great deal of its fuel is to show it what can be done most simply and most economically to save some of that fuel. Let me say perfectly frankly that it pays firms not to buy some of the appliances which are sold.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1387.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1390.1", "colnum": "1390", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Usborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021; \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Usborne", "preceding_text": "uipment was about as specious as the rest of his speech, and just about as short-sighted. It is perfectly true that it often pays many firms to install this generating equipment at great expense for use perhaps on only two or three days in a year. It certainly pays some firms to avoid the difficulties which arise from a sudden power cut. That is perfectly true. But why are there power cuts at all?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1390.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1401.1", "colnum": "1401", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "e House moved a similar Motion last night. It seems to me that, as he saw there was no need to utilise, as he could have done, another two hours, we ought to put to the Government a question whether we should not follow the course he indicated last night, and let the Committee terminate their labours for this particular sitting at a reasonable time. I should like to know what their intentions are—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1401.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1402.2", "colnum": "1402", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "I thank the right hon. Gentleman for this opportunity of making clear our intentions. As I said some hours ago, we do not regard adjourning at this time or in two hours' time as being something that meets with the general convenience of the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1402.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1409.1", "colnum": "1409", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Redmayne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, Hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Redmayne", "preceding_text": "stion of pure rivers. Now may I turn briefly to the detailed points of the Amendment? It is a logical sequel to the Rivers (Prevention of Pollution) Bill, which had its Third Reading in the House as recently as last Thursday; so at least it is topical. Hon. Members are familiar with the arguments which were deployed in favour of the principle of the Bill and there is no need for me to repeat them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1409.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1421.3", "colnum": "1421", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Gomme-Duncan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Korea?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Gomme-Duncan", "preceding_text": ", but he did, and he should be quiet. If the Government had taken our advice on re-armament, it would not have been so urgent or so costly as today. When the Minister says this is because of urgent re-armament, it is not for hon. Members opposite to point an accusing finger at us. We were going to have all this a great deal earlier, and not, if I may so describe it, by the easy instalment system.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1421.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1443.8", "colnum": "1443", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "preceding_text": "I think it would be best, Major Milner, if I were to take the blame for the whole incident, for it is obviously the soporific nature of my remarks which is responsible. I do not at all complain of hon. Members taking their rest so long as they do so in an orderly manner. When this interlude came upon us, I was about to remark that this Amendment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1443.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1448.1", "colnum": "1448", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "has given twice to the Committee within the last few minutes, that he will give consideration to the matter contained in this Amendment, I feel that no good purpose would be served in taking it to a Division. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1448.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1456.1", "colnum": "1456", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on with the job.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "Let me say this to the hon. Member, that with that experience in the first war, when I came into this Parliament between the wars—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1456.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1456.1", "colnum": "1456", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "Let me say this to the hon. Member, that with that experience in the first war, when I came into this Parliament between the wars—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on with the job.\"]—I devoted myself, more than to any other subject—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1456.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1456.3", "colnum": "1456", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "—to doing what little I could—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1456.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1472.1", "colnum": "1472", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "Would the hon. Gentleman allow me to put this question to him? A lot of argument has come from the other side of the Committee about shipbuilding being part of the rhythmic pattern. Why was not this dealt with three or four years ago, when there were practically no orders in the shipyards?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1472.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1472.1", "colnum": "1472", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "Would the hon. Gentleman allow me to put this question to him? A lot of argument has come from the other side of the Committee about shipbuilding being part of the rhythmic pattern. Why was not this dealt with three or four years ago, when there were practically no orders in the shipyards? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"] Oh, yes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1472.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1472.1", "colnum": "1472", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "stion to him? A lot of argument has come from the other side of the Committee about shipbuilding being part of the rhythmic pattern. Why was not this dealt with three or four years ago, when there were practically no orders in the shipyards? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"] Oh, yes. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] One hon. Gentleman opposite said order books were full now, but that they were not full a year ago.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1472.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1508.2", "colnum": "1508", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "preceding_text": "he line. The case of shipping seemed to be exceptional, but if this case were considered one could at once see a number of other cases concerning constructional works of this kind being brought forward, and before we knew where we were we should be driven to concede the principle, which I have no doubt will be argued in due course, that we ought not to have suspended the initial allowances at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1508.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1509.0", "colnum": "1509", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He is not very impressed with the hon. Member, either.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "I must say that I am not very impressed by the reply of the Economic Secretary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1509.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1532.0", "colnum": "1532", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": " is reasonably fresh. I do not see many signs of jaded looks yet, and I know the high spirits that are kept alive by songs in the tea-room. I would myself think that it would be a good thing if we started on Monday afternoon at Clause 24, which is, I think, after we have disposed of this Clause, which we have been debating since about 10.15 last night, the next really important Clause in the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1532.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1534.1", "colnum": "1534", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I feel quite sure that I shall be allowed to express my obligation to the right hon. Gentleman for having made a plain and clear statement of his desires and intentions. For out part, we have listened with great interest to them, and we see no season why the Government should not pursue that course. We cannot enter into an agreement as to when the debate should be brought to a conclusion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1534.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1558.0", "colnum": "1558", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Government expenditure.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "ted capacity. At the same time, we cannot afford to increase the activity and, at the same time, even if we tried to do that in present circumstances, as I have explained and as my right hon. Friends have explained to the House on many occasions, there would not be sufficient raw materials. Therefore something has to go. Some pruning has to be done. The question is where is the pruning to be made?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1558.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1558.0", "colnum": "1558", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": " elaborate system of controls than we have contemplated so far, one has to rely more on the monetary side. We shall, of course, use the investment programme to play its part; that is also, in my view, quite essential. I am, therefore, a little surprised that hon. Members opposite should criticise this particular move because it is within the category of action which they generally recommend to us—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1558.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1563.5", "colnum": "1563", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "Reserves are available in a form which can easily be converted into purchasing power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1563.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1565.3", "colnum": "1565", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Gag.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. J. Taylor", "preceding_text": "Mr. R. J. Taylor rose in his place and claimed to move , \"That the Question be now put.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1565.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1586.1", "colnum": "1586", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "comes are frustrated because when we go to them and say, \"We have now achieved so much equality in this country that you need have no concern for your standard of life,\" they reply \"Nonsense. The evidence of our own eyes shows something completely different.\" I therefore maintain that we must look at the long-run social effects of this problem of tax evasion. The right hon. Gentleman may be right—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1586.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1588.1", "colnum": "1588", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "No, I am sorry. I am putting a serious argument to the Committee and trying to put it in a very short time, because there is very little time available.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1588.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1588.1", "colnum": "1588", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Peanuts.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "That is a guess. The Committee has been given no figures by the Government. I invite the Chancellor, if he replies, to give us some figures. At the moment it does appear to me that, out of a Budget of £4,000 million, this sum is a very paltry addition to the revenue. Let us say the Chancellor will get this £1 million, £2 million, or perhaps £3 million; what is the price he will have to pay for it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1588.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1588.1", "colnum": "1588", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": " would have wished to read extracts from a letter addressed to the Chancellor by the Chairman of the Trustee Savings Banks Association. There is not time, and I can only tell the Committee that it is the considered view—and many hon. Gentlemen in all parts of the Committee know I speak the truth—of the trustee banks that we are here entering very dangerous waters and may well be playing with fire.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1588.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1590.0", "colnum": "1590", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wedgwood Benn", "preceding_text": "ing to the Chancellor on this. I believe it is necessary that when this Clause is enacted it should be accompanied by a serious effort of education and propaganda in the country. I have had one letter already from someone very active in the National Savings movement in my constituency who was concerned about the possible effect of this Clause on people who had been supporters of his savings group.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1590.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1596.2", "colnum": "1596", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "The Deputy-Chairman", "preceding_text": "I must make my position quite clear. I understand that the right hon. Gentleman is making a speech and is going to move to report Progress.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1596.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1597.2", "colnum": "1597", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Order.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "e authorities are entitled to see all the accounts and all the books of every business in the country. They are entitled to go to accountants—I think usually with permission, but nevertheless they can go—so that all these books, figures and accounts are disclosed confidentially to the Income Tax Commissioners. They are disclosed confidentially, but nevertheless disclosed. There is one other thing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1597.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1597.5", "colnum": "1597", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I should like to assure you, Sir Charles, that I am endeavouring to address a perfectly serious argument to what I regard as a very important Clause, and what, until a few moments ago, I thought the Opposition also regarded as a very important Clause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1597.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1605.1", "colnum": "1605", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "If I may bring the Committee back to Clause 23, I should like to raise with the Financial Secretary to the Treasury a technical matter to which he referred. My hon. and learned Friend the Member for Norwich, South (Mr. H. Strauss), in an intervention, pointed out—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1605.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-07", "file": "debates1951-06-07a.xml", "sha256": "2446f6374635bc58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1615.0", "colnum": "1615", "heading": "Clause 15.—(ALTERATIONS IN PERSONAL RELIEFS, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "ember for Kingston-upon-Thames referred to Section 4 of the Post Office Savings Bank Act, 1861. If they will look more closely at that Section, they will see that it deals with making disclosure otherwise than to the Postmaster-General. The Clause we are talking about does not place any obligation on the officers of the Postmaster-General. It places an obligation on the Postmaster-General himself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-07a.1615.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1641.2", "colnum": "1641", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL AND COKE SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "Yes. I have said that both those things are factors, but there are also other factors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1641.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1677.7", "colnum": "1677", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There are such profits now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": " increases in taxation, said: What is the alternative? I have not heard one offered. After all, we do not complain about profits. Profits are earned by good management, and there will be profits in the nationalised industries when there has been time to sort things out.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 6th June, 1951; Vol. 488, c. 1132&#x2013;3.] He may be rather optimistic with regard to that second statement—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1677.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1677.7", "colnum": "1677", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "86, c. 856.] Is that fair? Why is it that in present circumstances it is right that shareholders should get less? The Government have had to increase their own rates. They have increased by 20 per cent. the interest on Saving Certificates in order to get new savers. I read the other day that Lord Piercy, the Chairman of the Industrial and Commercial Finance Corporation, Ltd., a Government nominee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1677.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1702.1", "colnum": "1702", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "preceding_text": "That is not the point. I thought that the hon. and learned Member was talking about the tax on undistributed profits. This would be a reduction in the tax on undistributed profits.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1702.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1730.1", "colnum": "1730", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not these days.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "preceding_text": "What the hon. Gentleman does not understand is this. I think there is still a margin here whereby the dividend could be reduced. After all, hon. Gentlemen must understand that the holding of property is a secure investment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1730.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1731.1", "colnum": "1731", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "preceding_text": "e difficult to try to examine figures given across the Floor of the Committee without actually knowing the full facts relating to the particular case, and I should not like, as a back bencher, to try to dare to do what is sometimes done even by the Front Bench, but I should like to have a little notice, and time to look at the company's figures and balance sheets and the whole of its machinations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1731.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1731.1", "colnum": "1731", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Janner", "preceding_text": "ack bencher, to try to dare to do what is sometimes done even by the Front Bench, but I should like to have a little notice, and time to look at the company's figures and balance sheets and the whole of its machinations. [ Laughter. ] Perhaps I should use another word, but if any hon. Gentleman can find a better one it is up to him to mention it. All sorts of peculiar things happen with companies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1731.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1738.3", "colnum": "1738", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "particular form of this Amendment—this is a principle which we are putting forward. If there ought to be some apportionment of exemption from Profits Tax, the principle of the Amendment might still be met. It is no argument against the Amendment to say that it would be difficult to find a way to give effect to it. If one considers the burden imposed upon the landlord by the Rent Restrictions Acts—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1738.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1774.1", "colnum": "1774", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "preceding_text": "By work. All wealth arises out of work.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1774.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1776.0", "colnum": "1776", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. M. Philips Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. M. Philips Price", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Morecambe and Lonsdale (Sir I. Fraser) has introduced a rather controversial party note to our discussion on this Clause which, I think, is rather unfortunate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1776.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1789.7", "colnum": "1789", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You do not know.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "s he would allow me to continue now that I have explained the position to him. The main argument of the Opposition is that, despite these large profits, industry is being bled of her life blood and that there is a shortage, or that there is going to be a serious shortage, of industrial capital. All I can say is that, in the first place, I do not think the figures I have given really bear that out.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1789.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1799.3", "colnum": "1799", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I follow public affairs quite closely, and we always like to vote against the Government, but my hon. Friends and advisers here had the feeling that there was something in the Clause we ought not to oppose, and, therefore, we did not wish to take a direct—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1799.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1799.3", "colnum": "1799", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"For what? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I follow public affairs quite closely, and we always like to vote against the Government, but my hon. Friends and advisers here had the feeling that there was something in the Clause we ought not to oppose, and, therefore, we did not wish to take a direct—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"] Order about what?—take a direct line on the main question. But what I rose for—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1799.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1801.0", "colnum": "1801", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " happens through the usual channels is, of course, entirely confidential—until it is made public. That seems to be the rule followed in regard to most of our secrets nowadays. 10.0 p.m. The right hon. Gentleman has made a series of proposals through the Patronage Secretary, who I see in the corner, which were denounced immediately they had been uttered from below the Gangway as being too generous.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1801.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1801.0", "colnum": "1801", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "als through the Patronage Secretary, who I see in the corner, which were denounced immediately they had been uttered from below the Gangway as being too generous. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] We have never asked for the generosity of hon. Members opposite. All we ask for is fair play and that they should rule in accordance with the principles of democracy when supported by the will of the people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1801.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1805.1", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": " year or the year before, despite the fact that the Budget was far less controversial—the Budget has been regarded as far less controversial by most newspapers in the country. The other point, upon which I want to impress my right hon. Friend, and upon which I am speaking with the knowledge that a good many hon. Members on this Committee are behind it, is that we have grown tired on these benches—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1805.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1805.1", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "good many hon. Members on this Committee are behind it, is that we have grown tired on these benches—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]—of a set of circumstances under which, if this Committee extends beyond twelve o'clock, it will be 30 or 40 Labour Members who will sleep about here, without any Conservative Member being present. 10.15 p.m. That is a circumstance which we are not prepared to tolerate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1805.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1806.2", "colnum": "1806", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "preceding_text": "nd of spending an hour with Sir Bryan Fell, who will be remembered by older hon. Members as one of the wisest of our Clerks. He is now retired. We were talking over the question of all-night sittings and of the Finance Bill and he reminded me that in 1909 the House sat throughout the month of August and had some 900 divisions on the Committee stage of a Finance Bill. Is the Committee less capable—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1806.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1806.2", "colnum": "1806", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "preceding_text": "ered by older hon. Members as one of the wisest of our Clerks. He is now retired. We were talking over the question of all-night sittings and of the Finance Bill and he reminded me that in 1909 the House sat throughout the month of August and had some 900 divisions on the Committee stage of a Finance Bill. Is the Committee less capable—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"]—of sustaining powerful arguments—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1806.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1806.2", "colnum": "1806", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "preceding_text": " our Clerks. He is now retired. We were talking over the question of all-night sittings and of the Finance Bill and he reminded me that in 1909 the House sat throughout the month of August and had some 900 divisions on the Committee stage of a Finance Bill. Is the Committee less capable—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"]—of sustaining powerful arguments—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"]—or of doing its duty—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1806.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1806.2", "colnum": "1806", "heading": "Clause 24.—(RATES OF PROFITS TAX, ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "preceding_text": "over the question of all-night sittings and of the Finance Bill and he reminded me that in 1909 the House sat throughout the month of August and had some 900 divisions on the Committee stage of a Finance Bill. Is the Committee less capable—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"]—of sustaining powerful arguments—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"]—or of doing its duty—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—than our forefathers were?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1806.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1839.2", "colnum": "1839", "heading": "Clause 25.—(PUBLIC UTILITY UNDER TAKERS TO BE LIABLE TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "try under private enterprise, which was more efficient than when it was under the municipal authorities. One worked on the depreciation basis and the other on the sinking fund basis. This Amendment is very reasonable indeed and the Financial Secretary has given an explanation which does not seem to make any sense at all, but we do not expect any sense from the Government Front Bench in these days.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1839.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1844.1", "colnum": "1844", "heading": "Clause 25.—(PUBLIC UTILITY UNDER TAKERS TO BE LIABLE TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "Surely the Financial Secretary is wrong. I have been a member of two local authorities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1844.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1846.2", "colnum": "1846", "heading": "Clause 25.—(PUBLIC UTILITY UNDER TAKERS TO BE LIABLE TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Compensation.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "I gather that when I referred to the losses of the nationalised industries, certain hon. Members opposite suggested it was because they were paying interest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1846.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1880.0", "colnum": "1880", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "Section 36 clearly provides what are to be distributions, and one is assets. Supposing Government stock has been given to a company and it distributes that stock to its members. That is a distribution in kind. Having ascertained that there is a distribution, which is just as much a distribution as an ordinary payment of dividend by the company, and—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1880.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1890.1", "colnum": "1890", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why should it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "eeks to do. Hon. Members expressed apprehension as to the effect of Section 36 when we discussed the last Amendment to this Clause, but I have already given such answer as I can to that, and I again impress on the Committee the importance of over-all limitation and the higher distribution charge. It cannot exceed by one penny the amount of profits which the company in question has made since 1947—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1890.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1899.0", "colnum": "1899", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "vernment business to be accomplished. The overwhelming majority of hon. Members had made up their minds that we were going to be reasonably late tonight. I am hoping that we shall have from the Government Front Bench a short and frank answer. If we are not going to have an answer, but simply a Division, those of us who have been kept to this hour purely to fulfil the purposes of a political stunt—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1899.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1899.0", "colnum": "1899", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "ng to be reasonably late tonight. I am hoping that we shall have from the Government Front Bench a short and frank answer. If we are not going to have an answer, but simply a Division, those of us who have been kept to this hour purely to fulfil the purposes of a political stunt—[ Interruption ]—by an Opposition Front Bench whose attendance at all-night Divisions since 1945 will not bear analysis—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1899.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1899.0", "colnum": "1899", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "om the Government Front Bench a short and frank answer. If we are not going to have an answer, but simply a Division, those of us who have been kept to this hour purely to fulfil the purposes of a political stunt—[ Interruption ]—by an Opposition Front Bench whose attendance at all-night Divisions since 1945 will not bear analysis—[ Interruption ]—I see no reason at all why we should not continue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1899.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1899.0", "colnum": "1899", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "t going to have an answer, but simply a Division, those of us who have been kept to this hour purely to fulfil the purposes of a political stunt—[ Interruption ]—by an Opposition Front Bench whose attendance at all-night Divisions since 1945 will not bear analysis—[ Interruption ]—I see no reason at all why we should not continue. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"] I and a number of my hon. Friends intend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1899.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1900.0", "colnum": "1900", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "s frivolous performance gave me the strange impression, perhaps not altogether inappropriate to the hour at which we are sitting, that we were listening to a sleep-talker. I would ask the Leader of the House to reply to the request that has been formally made to him by my right hon. Friend the Member for Aldershot (Mr. Lyttelton). Little though I like His Majesty's Government or their composition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1900.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1900.0", "colnum": "1900", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "e we embark on this most important Clause, which we are sure it is impossible to take in view of the programme proposed to us this afternoon, I would ask the Leader of the House to consider carefully whether the progress made by the Government does not constitute a considerable harvest reaped during the hours we have sat. It is now only 3 o'clock, and we could quite easily return to our dwellings—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1900.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1901.1", "colnum": "1901", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why not?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "I think it is quite obvious that the only answer that can be given to this motion is that the Government are unable to accept it. It is not the Government's intention to ask the House to rise at the hour we have now reached.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1901.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1902.0", "colnum": "1902", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about HANSARD?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. Strauss", "preceding_text": "hour has been passed we shall therefore continue to some very much later hour, again fixed quite regardless of any consideration of public interest. I do not pretend to be taken by surprise by this decision on the part of the Government. Their obvious interest is to discuss a Clause such as Clause 28 at a time when it is virtually certain that the proceedings of the Committee will not be reported.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1902.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1902.0", "colnum": "1902", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What are you worried about?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. Strauss", "preceding_text": "t. I do not pretend to be taken by surprise by this decision on the part of the Government. Their obvious interest is to discuss a Clause such as Clause 28 at a time when it is virtually certain that the proceedings of the Committee will not be reported. [HON. MEMBERS: \"What about HANSARD?\"] I mean, when they will not be reported in the Press; the proceedings will certainly be reported in HANSARD.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1902.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1903.1", "colnum": "1903", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "e major financial Measure of the year is, at any rate, less easy at half-past three in the morning than it is at half-past three in the afternoon. Surely, if this House has any justification for its existence, it is that it should give to these important matters the closest and most efficient analysis. That consideration is being admittedly sacrificed by the Home Secretary to personal convenience.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1903.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1915.4", "colnum": "1915", "heading": "Clause 27.—(EFFECT OF CAPITALISATION OF PROFITS ON RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "Might not the House have been informed of that fact before the decision was taken, because it certainly might have made a difference to the decision if the machinery of the House has broken down under the strain put upon it?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1915.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1933.0", "colnum": "1933", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "table precedent, and they even went so far as to say that however it was amended they doubted whether it could ever become acceptable. May I give some reasons why we think it was unavoidable that we should use this precedent? It is our experience, unfortunately, that there is a growing number of all sorts of different transactions resorted to to avoid Profits Tax. I can give a great many examples.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1933.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1958.4", "colnum": "1958", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": "One can check whether it is the primary purpose. There are two, three, four, or five ways of doing it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1958.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1958.4", "colnum": "1958", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": "One can check whether it is the primary purpose. There are two, three, four, or five ways of doing it. [ Interruption. ] I did give way. The hon. Member made a very tendentious intervention, and I am trying to answer it. Although it is 6.10 a.m. I am trying to deal with it as though he were asking a serious question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1958.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1963.0", "colnum": "1963", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "tions\" on line 3, page 21, and the same words in subsection 1, because on the second occasion, that is in page 21, it is: If it appears in the case of any transaction or transactions, being a transaction which involves, or transactions, one or more of which involve &#x2026;. 6.30 a.m. That appears to contemplate a series of transactions at least one of which has in it two vices. Is that not right?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1963.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1963.0", "colnum": "1963", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "table assumption is that the two words are used because their meaning is different to the other. I did think it was just possible that they had some connection with the actual meaning of the word transaction—just possible that it was thought that the transaction which required agreement between two parties—I do not know if the Minister is helping the Attorney-General but he is rather hindering me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1963.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1964.0", "colnum": "1964", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "The hon. Gentleman's arrogance is quite as good as usual.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "e other. I did think it was just possible that they had some connection with the actual meaning of the word transaction—just possible that it was thought that the transaction which required agreement between two parties—I do not know if the Minister is helping the Attorney-General but he is rather hindering me. [ Interruption. ] I am sorry I am physically not so good at doing it as I generally am.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1963.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1965.0", "colnum": "1965", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "preceding_text": "nder certain circumstances to be regarded as having the partial function of avoiding taxation and, therefore, to be subject to the intervention of the Income Tax Commissioners. The same sort of thing is happening as we have seen in the past under this Government. As my hon. Friend the Member for Chippenham (Mr. Eccles) pointed out, tax evasion is growing, owing to bad government and high taxation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1965.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1971.4", "colnum": "1971", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "fficient about the hon. Gentleman's company to know that neither the main purpose nor one of the main purposes of the transaction which he has just been kind enough to describe to the Committee was to avoid or to evade tax payment. Let me now go on to make this further point. The Opposition—including the hon. Member for Stafford and Stone (Mr. H. Fraser), that elongated streak of political misery—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1971.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1984.0", "colnum": "1984", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "rating to the whole process of Parliamentary debate. Now the right hon. Gentleman asks us to continue with Clause 28. We are here under the Government's orders. The majority they have—10, 11, or 12—and which they would not have had if the present Foreign Secretary had not thought of the bright idea of breaking all his pledges, and the inter-party agreement, to which the Prime Minister was a party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1984.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1985.1", "colnum": "1985", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I do not intend to refer to this matter except as an illustration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1985.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1985.1", "colnum": "1985", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I do not intend to refer to this matter except as an illustration. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] The right hon. Gentleman has made a statement which is not, in my opinion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1985.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1987.0", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Butcher", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Butcher", "preceding_text": "I should like to give an additional reason why the Committee should now report Progress and ask leave to sit again. I refer to the police, the attendants, the messengers and people like that, and—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1987.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1987.0", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Butcher", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Butcher", "preceding_text": "gress and ask leave to sit again. I refer to the police, the attendants, the messengers and people like that, and—[ Interruption. ] Labour Members protest that they represent the interests of this community, but they impose additional hardship upon them—and they are the most inoffensive people—at a time when, by some more reasonable re-adjustment of our business they could be spared that hardship.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1987.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1988.0", "colnum": "1988", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "could be spending the morning in pleasant—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.1988.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2001.1", "colnum": "2001", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Patrick Spens", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Patrick Spens", "preceding_text": " can show that the Commissioners have been misinformed on any fact or reason on which the opinion was based. It is not really asking of the Commissioners any more than in all probability they would do in an informal manner after the subject had extracted the information from them by writing for it. In a case of such importance, and with a Clause so far reaching as this, it is not asking very much.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2001.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2013.0", "colnum": "2013", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Keenan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Keenan", "preceding_text": "I intervene because this Clause strikes me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2013.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2053.2", "colnum": "2053", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Order&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. L. Heald", "preceding_text": "Mr. L. Heald rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2053.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2055.1", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheer up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. Strauss", "preceding_text": "ing a two-day debate.\" I asked then, as I think it appropriate to ask now, whether the right hon. Gentleman really thinks that it is by the generosity of the Government that the Commons of England discuss national survival or the Finance Bill? It will not be the Conservative Party that will be injured if the right hon. Gentleman persists in his present course. I think there may be some who wonder—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2055.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2055.1", "colnum": "2055", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. Strauss", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. Strauss", "preceding_text": " think there may be some who wonder—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheer up.\"] I cheer up quite considerably when I remember how short-lived will be the Government that at present sits upon the benches opposite—united in nothing except their determination to avoid a General Election. It will not be the Conservative Party that is injured by the Government's attempts to bring this House into ridicule and contempt—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2055.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2108.0", "colnum": "2108", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "preceding_text": "The Attorney-General battles bravely on while the Leader of the House is sunk in slothful slumber—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2108.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2119.1", "colnum": "2119", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Molson", "preceding_text": "to the person who is subject to taxation, but in order that the Government and the Executive shall have an almost arbitrary power to issue a direction that, in their opinion, some financial transaction that has taken place has been with the intention of evading tax. My hon. Friends have drawn attention to the fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer and his predecessor both made a general appeal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2119.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2124.0", "colnum": "2124", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount Hinchingbrooke", "preceding_text": "We are coming to the end of a marathon race—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2123.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2124.2", "colnum": "2124", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Viscount Hinchingbrooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount Hinchingbrooke", "preceding_text": "This Clause has occupied us for some 12 hours and the time has not been wasted. I was about to say that the Attorney-General has run a little faster than anybody else, certainly with great skill and endurance. I think we should all like to congratulate him on his remarkable performance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2124.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2128.0", "colnum": "2128", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "I want to raise a point on the Clause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2128.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2128.0", "colnum": "2128", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "interest to a nominee shareholder. That may be a perfectly legitimate thing to do, but because he has done it the Commissioners have the right, at their whim, to say that that has lessened his Surtax liability and, therefore, that that transaction will have to be set aside, and that if the man cares to appeal he can. That is grossly unfair and for that main reason I shall vote against this Clause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2128.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2133.5", "colnum": "2133", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Orr-Ewing", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Orr-Ewing", "preceding_text": "I must leave it to the judgment of the hon. Member when he studies HANSARD.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2133.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2143.4", "colnum": "2143", "heading": "Clause 28.—(TRANSACTIONS DESIGNED TO AVOID LIABILITY TO THE PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "ommenced. If there were any matter which the Committee thought was of sufficient importance to warrant reporting Progress in order that a Minister could be questioned, and the Chairman of the Committee accepted the Motion and it was carried, then, as has happened more than once in my recollection of the House, I have no doubt that when the House resumed a Motion for the Adjournment could be moved.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2143.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2174.2", "colnum": "2174", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "one or other prisons administered by the Leader of the House. I say with the utmost sincerity and earnestness that this Clause is poison to an international centre like London, and that it is in the interests of everybody to see that the entrepreneur business and the invisible exports, which use so little labour, are built up. These are bad enough reasons on broad grounds for opposing this Clause—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2174.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2199.5", "colnum": "2199", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "preceding_text": "trol Act a permanent feature of British policy under Socialism. If ever there was a counsel of dispair, that is it. It is tragic that this kind of message should go out to the world from any Government of Britain. Are we to live with an Exchange Control Act, with this kind of legislation creeping in—for good reasons, I agree? I agree with the Chancellor that we must stop tax evasion by some means—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2199.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2208.1", "colnum": "2208", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Evans", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Evans", "preceding_text": "I think that it is aimed at somebody who has done very well out of this country over a long period of years and who now, seeing that we have a struggle to get by quite comfortably—although I do not share that view—and may not succeed, is deserting the ship.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2208.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2216.1", "colnum": "2216", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": " that that is so in principle and that if they were responsible at this moment there would be a lower level of direct taxation, but the remarkable fact is that the Opposition have refrained on this Bill from voting against the increase in the distributed Profits Tax and the increase in Income Tax. Therefore, they are committed by this action to the present level of direct taxation in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2216.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2216.1", "colnum": "2216", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "action to the present level of direct taxation in this country. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No&#x0021;\"] On the evidence of the votes on this Bill in the last few days, how can they claim to be really facing the problem? The threat of tax evasion is there, and we have brought forward the only practical measure with all due safeguards to restrain it, and if hon. Members who have accepted the level of taxation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2216.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2224.0", "colnum": "2224", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": "a new wharf or something of that kind. They are not allowed to raise the money except with the permission of a foreign State-that is, the British Government. Is that likely to promote good business relationships between the two countries? There is a great tide of economic nationalism flowing in the world. It is referred to in Asia as a revolution. Surely we should be on the side of the revolution.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2224.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2247.1", "colnum": "2247", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "preceding_text": "I can understand, after 30 hours, that the Financial Secretary should be a bit dim in his outlook.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2247.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2247.1", "colnum": "2247", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "preceding_text": "ERS: \"Oh.\"] I say that quite definitely. Other hon. Members are also a bit dim, after 30 hours debate. Nobody is suggesting that the Financial Secretary should give us the names of companies who may be guilty of tax evasion. I asked for instances where these provisions could apply, for a hypothetical case which the Government could suggest where tax evasion might take place in these circumstances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2247.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2247.1", "colnum": "2247", "heading": "Clause 32.—(RESTRICTION OF CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS LEADING TO AVOIDANCE OF INCOME TAX OR PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So what?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "preceding_text": "ggest where tax evasion might take place in these circumstances. [ Interruption. ] Hon. Members opposite ought not to shout their heads off merely because they are taking no interest in the debate. Many of us on this side of the Committee are interested in this on behalf of the Dominions and the Colonies. My hon. Friend the Member for Chippenham has raised a matter of deep concern to the Colonies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2247.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-11", "file": "debates1951-06-11a.xml", "sha256": "096bf816eb13cd67", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2264.0", "colnum": "2264", "heading": "UNMADE ROADS, HORNCHURCH", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Local Government and Planning (Mr. Lindgren)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Local Government and Planning (Mr. Lindgren)", "preceding_text": "asure which was recently introduced into, and has passed through, the House by my hon. Friend the Member for Bootle (Mr. Kinley). I think I ought to say that his endeavours have been to good purpose, for his constituency has received—if not as the direct result of his endeavours, certainly his endeavours have helped to secure the result—allocations at a much higher rate than other urban districts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-11a.2264.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2298.4", "colnum": "2298", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COUNCIL OF EUROPE (MINISTERIAL REPRESENTATION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "preceding_text": "Is it not the case that His Majesty's Ministers, unlike several leading Members of the Opposition, are unwilling to speak with one voice in Strasbourg and in a different voice in this country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2298.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2304.3", "colnum": "2304", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARMED FORCES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2304.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2304.5", "colnum": "2304", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARMED FORCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Surely the same argument could be adduced against the production of other new weapons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2304.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2304.8", "colnum": "2304", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARMED FORCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Duncan Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Duncan Sandys", "preceding_text": "Does the Minister of Defence not realise that the choice of an entirely new calibre for the new weapon—I am not talking about the new weapon but of the new calibre—has the effect of giving the worst possible lead to all nations—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2304.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2305.0", "colnum": "2305", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARMED FORCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Well, I must confess that I am not so technically well equipped as the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2305.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.1", "colnum": "2306", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CLASS Z RESERVE (DEFERMENTS)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "Yes, but with great respect, Sir—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.3", "colnum": "2306", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CLASS Z RESERVE (DEFERMENTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": " bear in mind that the new decision which he has announced in the answer that he has just given will be welcomed, I think, by every Member of the House and by the country at large as removing what has become—in a small number of cases—a serious grievance that has been causing a good deal of hardship? Will he bear in mind that the decision will be gratefully accepted by the country? May I also ask—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.3", "colnum": "2306", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CLASS Z RESERVE (DEFERMENTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": " as removing what has become—in a small number of cases—a serious grievance that has been causing a good deal of hardship? Will he bear in mind that the decision will be gratefully accepted by the country? May I also ask—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—whether, in the cases of the two persons who are named in the Question it will be necessary for them to make a new application, or whether their notices—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.3", "colnum": "2306", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CLASS Z RESERVE (DEFERMENTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": ". MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—whether, in the cases of the two persons who are named in the Question it will be necessary for them to make a new application, or whether their notices—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] I want to ask my right hon. Friend whether, in the cases of the two people who are named in the Question, it will be necessary for them to make a new application, or whether their call-up notices—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.3", "colnum": "2306", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CLASS Z RESERVE (DEFERMENTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "of the two persons who are named in the Question it will be necessary for them to make a new application, or whether their notices—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] I want to ask my right hon. Friend whether, in the cases of the two people who are named in the Question, it will be necessary for them to make a new application, or whether their call-up notices—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—will be cancelled?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2306.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2307.0", "colnum": "2307", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CLASS Z RESERVE (DEFERMENTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Members opposite?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman is slightly provocative in his statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2307.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2311.4", "colnum": "2311", "heading": "STEVENAGE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION (CHAIRMAN'S DISMISSAL)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I am sure that the House will be delighted with the assurance of my right hon. Friend that the dismissal of Mrs. Monica Felton was on the grounds of Departmental responsibility and her neglect of duty—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2311.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2311.6", "colnum": "2311", "heading": "STEVENAGE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION (CHAIRMAN'S DISMISSAL)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "preceding_text": "I apologise. May I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether he does not agree with me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2311.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2312.1", "colnum": "2312", "heading": "STEVENAGE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION (CHAIRMAN'S DISMISSAL)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Mr. Speaker. My hon. Friend the Member for Farnham (Mr. Nicholson) has raised a most important question affecting the whole position of Select Committees. May I put it in this form: Perhaps you would look into the matter because, so far as I am aware, there is no previous instance of a Minister announcing to the House an action which has taken place in Select Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2312.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2312.1", "colnum": "2312", "heading": "STEVENAGE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION (CHAIRMAN'S DISMISSAL)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "o my hon. Friend, that it was quite true that the proceedings of a Select Committee could not be disclosed in this House without the permission of the Chairman of the Select Committee; in other words, without a statement to the House by the Chairman of the Select Committee. I am not making any criticism of the Minister, but here is an announcement that something has happened in a Select Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2312.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2314.5", "colnum": "2314", "heading": "LONDON SHIPS' CLERKS (RESUMPTION OF WORK)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Aneurin Bevan", "preceding_text": "This is the first time that I have heard that any statement by me has appeared anywhere; nor has any statement been made by me. The hon. Gentleman did not give me notice of what he intended to say and I consider it extremely discourteous of him not to have done so. I have made no statement whatever concerning the strike.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2314.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2320.3", "colnum": "2320", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA (CLOSER ASSOCIATION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Ian Fraser", "preceding_text": "In view of the supreme importance of friendly understanding in the Commonwealth, can the right hon. Gentleman give an assurance that discussions will take place between His Majesty's Government and the Government of the Union of South Africa?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2320.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2327.1", "colnum": "2327", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Gurney Braithwaite", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Gurney Braithwaite", "preceding_text": "May I preface my remarks by expressing what I am sure are the hopes of all of us that the learned Attorney-General has had a refreshing sleep since we parted? I note with great satisfaction that he has regained that fresh complexion which we all admire, presumably without recourse to devices with which the fairer sex sometimes fortify themselves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2327.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2372.0", "colnum": "2372", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not fair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Commander Braithwaite", "preceding_text": " when he described himself as an ordinary, common man. Neither of these descriptions apply to my hon. Friend, who has so enlivened the debate. We were proceeding on pleasant, placid and constructive lines and on an extremely high level of debate prior to the intervention of the right hon. Member for Colne Valley (Mr. Glenvil Hall). He made a brief intervention and a brief visit to our proceedings.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2372.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2374.2", "colnum": "2374", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "Various aspects of this problem have been the subject of speeches by hon. Members. We are all agreed that it is a most important principle of English law that the onus is not in general on the accused to establish his innocence. That I accept at once.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2374.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2377.0", "colnum": "2377", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "ognisance and authority of the directors. It is not a case that here is something which can be done by some very humble subordinate officer of the company without the knowledge of the board. It is most unlikely that any of those events would take place without the cognisance and personal participation of the directors, as a board. 7.0 p.m. That is the first thing. Secondly, one has this situation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2377.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2377.0", "colnum": "2377", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": ". ] The position I have outlined relates to a less extent to paragraphs ( c ) and ( d ) than to paragraphs ( a ) and ( b ), but in general it would be the case that the directors were participants in the act. May I go on to give my next reasons? One has, in general, the situation that it is extremely difficult for the prosecution to obtain the necessary evidence to implicate a director personally.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2377.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2459.0", "colnum": "2459", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go ahead.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": " thing is complete nonsense from top to bottom. I hope that the Treasury will look at the Amendments which have been put down in the name of my hon. Friend the Member for Chippenham (Mr. Eccles) and others and will study whether they will not do something to improve the Clause. We have already told the Committee that we do not propose to move them tonight, but I am beginning rather to regret that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2459.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2459.0", "colnum": "2459", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "ve been put down in the name of my hon. Friend the Member for Chippenham (Mr. Eccles) and others and will study whether they will not do something to improve the Clause. We have already told the Committee that we do not propose to move them tonight, but I am beginning rather to regret that. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Go ahead.\"] Certainly; if hon. Members opposite wish to go on all night, I am quite willing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2459.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-13", "file": "debates1951-06-13a.xml", "sha256": "241fdd08d8e3416e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2465.2", "colnum": "2465", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "I&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "d the personal pronoun. The truth of the matter is that the right hon. Gentleman has really no business at this time of night to get up and say the sort of thing he did, unless he and the Opposition are prepared to pursue the Amendments they have put down. No matter what arrangements have been made between the two sides, the right hon. Gentleman should pursue his Amendments, and I am not prepared—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-13a.2465.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2523.5", "colnum": "2523", "heading": "PROLONGED SITTINGS (QUESTION TIME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I can assure the hon. Lady that I am very sorry myself. I was looking forward to those 44 Questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2523.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2524.0", "colnum": "2524", "heading": "PROLONGED SITTINGS (QUESTION TIME)", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "Does this not emphasise the appeal made by the right hon. Member for Woodford (Mr. Churchill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2524.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2535.1", "colnum": "2535", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Syrup.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "not know for which purpose it is in volume, mostly used—but it is something which enters into consumption pretty widely in this country. Most people enjoy figs. I do not know whether they enjoy drained figs as much as other kinds; I am quite at a loss to know what a drained fig is. Assuming that it is the same sort of thing and tastes the same, I suppose it would be equally agreeable to consumers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2535.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2538.0", "colnum": "2538", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "preceding_text": "ade with Turkey? Are we not entitled to know what was the bargain which we are being asked to implement? Does he think it is enough to come here and say, \"I have made a bargain and you have got to follow it up\"? I protest at this manner in which the Committee is being treated. It is an attitude which has become all too common with hon. Members opposite, who have no real understanding of democracy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2538.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2542.8", "colnum": "2542", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ian L. Orr-Ewing", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ian L. Orr-Ewing", "preceding_text": "e. It is not a good thing that that should happen. Again, this is a non-betting, non-gambling form of entertainment, and it is one of the very few forms of entertainment to which young people can go, and, if they want, can shout their heads off. There are probably very few forms of entertainment where they can do that today without being turned out. It is true that they might try it in the cinema—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2542.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2550.1", "colnum": "2550", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "No, it is not a monopoly. It just happens that this firm—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2550.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2550.3", "colnum": "2550", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "am convinced that there is no case at all to be made against the abolition of what I feel to be the most unfair imposition of this tax on speedway racing. I think it would be true to say that the majority of hon. Members on this side of the Committee would vote for this Clause if they felt that by so doing they were in no way endangering the Government. That is how strongly they feel on the issue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2550.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2552.0", "colnum": "2552", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Black", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Black", "preceding_text": "unt. Therefore, even from the narrow fiscal viewpoint the Government will be likely to profit and not lose by recognising the strength of the case we are now putting forward. Speedway is an open air sport. It encourages people to be out in the stadiums in which they are in the open air as distinct from being in an enclosed building with perhaps the stuffy atmosphere one often finds in such places.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2552.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2568.2", "colnum": "2568", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "My information is that the offer is one-half; but I will accept the statement that it is at least one-half, if the hon. Gentleman wishes. If the Clause were accepted, it would mean a reduction of 3d. or 4d. on the 1s. 9d. seat. Can it be said that that is of very great significance?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2568.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2568.2", "colnum": "2568", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": " in 1946, agrees to differentiate between the rates of tax. From that moment on—and this is the serious difficulty that confronts us and which we have not escaped—we have got to draw a line which the administrators and the Government can conscientiously defend. Many of the arguments advanced today, powerful though they no doubt are, are really arguments for having no discrimination in this matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2568.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2618.1", "colnum": "2618", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Colegate", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Colegate", "preceding_text": "You must remember. Major Milner—of course, I bow to your Ruling—that I had to justify the proposed expenditure. If I am told, as I have been in effect in this written reply, that the Treasury cannot afford this money, despite the fact that it is a trifling sum, I think I am entitled to point out that the Treasury can find much larger sums for what strikes me as much less worthy purposes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2618.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2626.1", "colnum": "2626", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": " not a mere matter of regulation. We are discussing the Clause as it stands and the proposals of the Gowers Committee. There is no doubt that the tax exemptions they propose would have made it possible for those who happened be living in those houses to sell them at considerable profit. I am not saying whether that might be a good or bad thing, but it is certainly liable to great misunderstanding.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2626.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2635.0", "colnum": "2635", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. F. P. Crowder", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. F. P. Crowder", "preceding_text": " is rather galling for him to meet a rich man who, perhaps, was not serving during the war, who has a Rolls Bentley and a Rolls Royce and an expensive new station waggon—the total horsepower of those three vehicles being some 90 horse-power—and who is paying exactly the same car tax as the man who is paying £30 on his 22 horse-power car. Hon. Gentlemen opposite have always supported the small man—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2635.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2636.2", "colnum": "2636", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "ax in this way on the pre-1947-cars, I am bound to say that I look upon that with a very sceptical eye indeed. I think that is the kind of argument that is very likely to be put up by those concerned, but I see no evidence to believe that we should in this way make up for the loss of Revenue. If the running costs of the older cars are so high, it seems most unlikely that a relatively small change—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2636.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2636.2", "colnum": "2636", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "l be some who will benefit from this proposed new Clause who have very small cars, both old and new, the major part of any benefit will undoubtedly go to the owners of the larger pre-war cars. I cannot agree that they can be described as the poorer motorists. I see no evidence for that suggestion whatever. I know very few poor motorists who own large 20 horse-power and 30 horse-power pre-war cars.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2636.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2636.2", "colnum": "2636", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": " difficulty they have, we must not overlook the fact that the great benefit of this new Clause goes not to those who are thinking of buying cars but to all the present owners of these cars, the vast majority of whom have been owners of these cars for some years and bought them at much lower prices and have had a very substantial capital gain as a result of the rise in the price of secondhand cars.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2636.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2654.1", "colnum": "2654", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Gomme-Duncan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How does the hon. and gallant Gentleman know?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Gomme-Duncan", "preceding_text": " which I am trying to put. This is a home product. Why should this home product suffer more than imported products? Let me give an example, very briefly, by illustrating the difference between the prices of cigarettes and whisky. Before 1914, 20 cigarettes cost 6d.; they are now 3s. 6d., which is a sixfold increase. For whisky, it was 3s. a bottle then, and was also much stronger than it is today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2654.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2656.0", "colnum": "2656", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore", "preceding_text": "ny English people, particularly if they are strong tea-drinkers. It is that the whisky manufacturing industry is one of our most important dollar earners. It could also be one of our most important sterling earners if given the chance. May I make a constructive suggestion to the Committee? At present our foreign exports are the only means by which the whisky industry of Scotland can be maintained.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2656.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2656.0", "colnum": "2656", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore", "preceding_text": "ing industry is one of our most important dollar earners. It could also be one of our most important sterling earners if given the chance. May I make a constructive suggestion to the Committee? At present our foreign exports are the only means by which the whisky industry of Scotland can be maintained. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] Because it is made so expensive at home that nobody can afford to buy it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2656.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2656.0", "colnum": "2656", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore", "preceding_text": "a and Canada may enjoy it, why not keep it in this country, through a reduction of the Excise Duty, and use it as a bait to bring American and Canadian visitors here? We have tried many methods of inducing American and Canadian visitors to come and spend their dollars here. We have even gone to the length of something like £9 million in establishing a Festival. I will tell the Committee something.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2656.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2658.0", "colnum": "2658", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They never could.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "preceding_text": "e this vast export trade in dollar areas indefinitely without some kind of home market. I believe that to be a perfectly serious and valid point. I would also point out to the Financial Secretary and the Economic Secretary that this is class legislation of the most shocking and shameless kind. The very rich can afford whisky, they can afford to get it and to drink it, but the working class cannot.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2658.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2658.0", "colnum": "2658", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "preceding_text": "fford whisky, they can afford to get it and to drink it, but the working class cannot. [HON. MEMBERS: \"They never could.\"] Yes, they could. They could afford whisky when the best whisky was 3s. 0d. a bottle. If hon. Members opposite think that the working class of Scotland never could afford to buy whisky to drink, all I can say is they know nothing at all about it, and do not know their Scotland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2658.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2658.0", "colnum": "2658", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is tragic.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "preceding_text": "bring forward the formidable point in the whole of our armoury. He said, \"It is a point, Sir Stafford, which must appeal to you,\" and raising his voice to a hoarse whisper he added, \"The younger generation in this country is losing its taste for whisky.\" I must say that Sir Stafford was not frightfully enthusiastic. He saw the point, but without much enthusiasm. It is true, and it is a great pity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2658.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2676.3", "colnum": "2676", "heading": "MRS. FELTON (VISIT TO KOREA)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. S. Taylor", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. S. Taylor", "preceding_text": "aid: In areas occupied by Americans, persons had been killed aud burnt and buried alive. She said that hospitals had been bombed despite Red Cross markings, and that tortures had been inflicted upon innocent people. I believe that we are not trying this woman in the House of Commons this evening, but I do submit that there is a very strong case here to say that she has been guilty of high treason.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2676.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-14", "file": "debates1951-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "92f0049daaa4ad89", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2685.5", "colnum": "2685", "heading": "MRS. FELTON (VISIT TO KOREA)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "preceding_text": "I have not the slightest intention of beginning to describe anything that took place at the Public Accounts Committee, because I have no knowledge of it. With regard to her failure to appear—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-14a.2685.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-15", "file": "debates1951-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "2ab4c418d823a895", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-15a.2704.3", "colnum": "2704", "heading": "MONOPOLY PRACTICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "preceding_text": " the Order which we are to consider next Wednesday, I do not like the individual approach. I hope also that the House will realise what it is going to do. It is going to condemn and make illegal practices in regard to the supply of dental goods that are widespread throughout much of our industry. It is a most invidious position, a most dangerous position, but nevertheless one that I shall support.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-15a.2704.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-15", "file": "debates1951-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "2ab4c418d823a895", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-15a.2745.1", "colnum": "2745", "heading": "MONOPOLY PRACTICES", "cue_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Sir Hartley Shawcross)", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Sir Hartley Shawcross)", "preceding_text": " them from the Front Bench on occasions such as this. This afternoon they have been wise in selecting the right hon. Member for Southport (Mr. R. S. Hudson), a most experienced and successful farmer, to speak upon this matter and to make sure that the right hon. Member for Aldershot (Mr. Lyttelton), a most experienced industrialist, is, as I hope, placing money on the right horse in another place.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-15a.2745.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-15", "file": "debates1951-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "2ab4c418d823a895", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-15a.2765.2", "colnum": "2765", "heading": "MONOPOLY PRACTICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Wilson", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"Coal.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Wilson", "preceding_text": "d by the President of the Board of Trade today and in the debates which we had three years ago. I think that the whole House recognised then that there is all the difference in the world between monopolies which are laid down by Statute and operate under Statute, in which the consumer is given the protection that the House feels he should have, and those monopolies which exist behind closed doors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-15a.2765.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-15", "file": "debates1951-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "2ab4c418d823a895", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-15a.2766.1", "colnum": "2766", "heading": "MONOPOLY PRACTICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "I think the right hon. Gentleman will agree that that was an after-thought which followed comments by one or two of my hon. Friends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-15a.2766.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.9.1", "colnum": "9", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The right hon. Gentleman is learning.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "I am rather surprised that that question should come from this side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.9.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.32.5", "colnum": "32", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOREIGN SERVICE (MR. GUY BURGESS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh!", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "preceding_text": "No, Sir, I hope that the hon. Gentleman will not make any remark which is a general reflection on the Foreign Service or, indeed, upon the public service generally. We may not all take the same views of people's political views as the hon. Gentleman does.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.32.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.38.2", "colnum": "38", "heading": "QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "Would you enlighten us, Sir? I am sorry that I had no idea of this new procedure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.38.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.38.3", "colnum": "38", "heading": "QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The arrangement came about this morning, when I discussed it with the Clerks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.38.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.39.5", "colnum": "39", "heading": "QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "preceding_text": ", that every hon. Member in the House not only heard you ask my hon. Friend the Member for Perry Barr (Mr. Poole) to move his Motion and heard him say it, but heard you then put the Question. It is about time that hon. Members listened when you, Sir, are on your feet. The Question was then put by you. Many hon. Members said \"Aye.\" Then the Question was put for the \"Noes.\" No hon. Member said \"No.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.39.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.40.1", "colnum": "40", "heading": "QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I think, Sir, that we all heard you say that you had not declared that the Ayes had it. Whether or not you had declared that the Ayes or the Noes had it, you had, I think, quite clearly collected the voices—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.40.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.40.5", "colnum": "40", "heading": "QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "sider. In this country free speech has long been privileged outside the special responsibilities of Members of Parliament and so forth, and there has been for many generations very free talk about all sorts of topics. One cannot say that the man or the woman in the street can be brought up violently and called to account because of expressing some opinion on something or other which is sub judice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.40.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.47.1", "colnum": "47", "heading": "QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "I was coming to that. If you, Mr. Speaker, had done that—had got up and said \"This is a prima facie case\" the next step, as I well remember from the days when I had the responsibility which the right hon. Gentleman now discharges, would have been for the Leader of the House to get up—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.47.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.48.1", "colnum": "48", "heading": "QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Move it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "s still within the competence of the House. In accepting this Ruling today that there is a prima facia case, I suggest that this is one of the instances which should be investigated by the Committee of Privileges and a report thereon made to the House. I hope that the House will be prepared to accept the suggestion of the right hon. Gentleman that we should agree to that course without a Division—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.48.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.49.1", "colnum": "49", "heading": "QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "With great respect, Sir, you have now definitely ruled that a prima facie case exists, and the Leader of the House has proposed that we should adjourn the debate upon this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.49.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.64.1", "colnum": "64", "heading": "New Clause.—(OFF-LICENCES, MINIMUM QUANTITY OF SPIRITS TO BE SOLD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A Tory Government.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "This is not the economics of a sane Parliament, but of a lunatic asylum.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.64.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.64.1", "colnum": "64", "heading": "New Clause.—(OFF-LICENCES, MINIMUM QUANTITY OF SPIRITS TO BE SOLD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "This is not the economics of a sane Parliament, but of a lunatic asylum. [An HON. MEMBER: \"A Tory Government.\"] Whether one can call the Government of 1933 a Tory Government or not I am not quite clear. It was certainly not as Tory as I should have liked.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.64.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.68.1", "colnum": "68", "heading": "New Clause.—(OFF-LICENCES, MINIMUM QUANTITY OF SPIRITS TO BE SOLD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "It is impossible to estimate the cost because it is impossible to estimate the effect on consumption. Some people may argue that more alcohol would be consumed, while others may argue that less would be consumed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.68.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.69.0", "colnum": "69", "heading": "New Clause.—(OFF-LICENCES, MINIMUM QUANTITY OF SPIRITS TO BE SOLD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thornton-Kemsley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thornton-Kemsley", "preceding_text": " such a limitation in the demand for whisky that there will be adequate supplies for all, but in practice the amount available on the home market is so limited that quotas are imposed by all who sell it. It is almost impossible to buy whisky unless one has established a quota by having been a customer before the war, or something like that. There is a medicinal need for spirits, especially whisky.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.69.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.73.0", "colnum": "73", "heading": "New Clause.—(OFF-LICENCES, MINIMUM QUANTITY OF SPIRITS TO BE SOLD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Lewis (Bolton, West)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Lewis (Bolton, West)", "preceding_text": "ary to do is to tax their ingenuity in this matter. I do not ask them to make a decision now, but I hope that they will examine the suggestion put forward about increasing the licence in one case so as to be able to reduce it in another, to compensate for any loss. Many of us sitting on these benches think something should be done about this matter. We are not going to vote against the Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.73.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.85.0", "colnum": "85", "heading": "New Clause.—(Repayment of tax to CARRY INTEREST.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "udno during the war and only a few months ago there was another major upheaval in it because it was moved to the neighbourhood of Liverpool. That is part of the Government's dispersal of staffs, which before the war were concentrated in London, and which, if they returned to it, would create a formidable risk to administration, in that they would be exposed to the danger of bombing in another war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.85.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.105.3", "colnum": "105", "heading": "New Clause.—(AMENDMENT AS TO ALLOWANCE FOR REPAIRS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He was.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "preceding_text": "I am sorry, but with respect, the hon. Member was not saying that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.105.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-18", "file": "debates1951-06-18a.xml", "sha256": "7702232ba634697a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.154.1", "colnum": "154", "heading": "New Clause.—(ALLOWANCE FOR EXPENSES OF MINISTERS OF RELIGION.)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "I trust that the Committee will continue to take notice of this matter. If I asked leave to withdraw the Clause—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-18a.154.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.221.2", "colnum": "221", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Thomas", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that my right hon. Friend told the House earlier this afternoon that this call-up is a specialised one, is he seeking to tell us that the 15 days is spent in mess waiting?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.221.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.221.3", "colnum": "221", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "I will give my hon. Friend, if he likes, details of what happened in this case. The man was called up as a driver, three drivers were allotted to this unit, and only two vehicles were available.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.221.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.222.2", "colnum": "222", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": "Would it not be possible to use some of the 90,000 Polish veterans, the finest soldiers in this world?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.222.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.238.0", "colnum": "238", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COINAGE (1&#x00BD;d. PIECE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "There is, of course, no evidence to that effect. The Id. is used—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.238.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.243.0", "colnum": "243", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Nonsense.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Duncan Sandys", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman has asked my right hon. Friend for suggestions. Is he aware that the impression given by his two answers is that he and the Foreign Office and the Government have given all too little consideration to this matter?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.242.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.268.1", "colnum": "268", "heading": "New Clause.—(AMENDMENT OF S. 22 OF FINANCE ACT, 1920.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowles", "preceding_text": "y hon. Friend on behalf of a constituent of mine on the same point, and he kindly replied on 31st May, saying that my constituent was wrong in thinking that Sir John Anderson was responsible for the decrease in the allowance, and went on to say that this £25 relief had been granted ever since the Finance Act, 1920. My constituent has written to me again today, sending a stamped addressed envelope.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.268.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.345.0", "colnum": "345", "heading": "New Clause.—(INCREASED REDUCTION OF DUTY ON PUBLICANS' LICENCES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Horn. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "respective of the amount they sell, then on the grounds of sympathy they are entitled to sortie consideration. Just as I thought when I moved the \"small bottle\" Clause yesterday, the on-licence holders are entitled to sympathetic consideration from the hard-hearted team on the Government Front Bench. The Chancellor is missing. I suppose that he is at the present moment in an unlicensed restaurant.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.345.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.357.0", "colnum": "357", "heading": "New Clause.—(PROFITS TAX: EXEMPTION OF FIXED PREFERENCE DIVIDENDS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Edwards", "preceding_text": "ect to Profits Tax. This is the most thorough going new Clause or Amendment that we have ever had on this theme. It goes much farther than anybody from the Opposition has hitherto proposed. It is not clear from when this Clause would operate, but it is, I think, a radical challenge to the whole of the Profits Tax principle, and, if it were adopted, would, in fact, completely wreck the Profits Tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.357.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.357.0", "colnum": "357", "heading": "New Clause.—(PROFITS TAX: EXEMPTION OF FIXED PREFERENCE DIVIDENDS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Edwards", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Edwards", "preceding_text": "a radical challenge to the whole of the Profits Tax principle, and, if it were adopted, would, in fact, completely wreck the Profits Tax. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] There are, it seems to me, very great anomalies created anyhow. After all, it is part of the scheme of the Profits Tax that the charge at the higher rate should fall on all dividend distributions, including payments of preference dividends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.357.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.380.0", "colnum": "380", "heading": "Postponed Clause.—(PURCHASE TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "preceding_text": "t hon. Gentlemen opposite should expect us not to see through the political colour of this suggestion, in spite of all the technical arguments that have been brought forward in an attempt to blind us. Surely anybody with any respect for Parliamentary institutions must agree that it would be quite intolerable to have the discussion of Purchase Tax taken from this Committee, which is representative.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.380.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.380.0", "colnum": "380", "heading": "Postponed Clause.—(PURCHASE TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "preceding_text": "or Parliamentary institutions must agree that it would be quite intolerable to have the discussion of Purchase Tax taken from this Committee, which is representative. [ Interruption .] Some hon. Gentleman says we have been muzzled, but I do not notice that hon. Gentlemen are being muzzled at this stage. Certainly their proposal would rob this Committee of any discussion whatsoever of Purchase Tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.380.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.401.2", "colnum": "401", "heading": "Postponed Clause.—(PURCHASE TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ticularly to the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the House. What are the desires and intentions of the Government at this stage in our proceedings? It seems to me that, if they wish, we could now adjourn and continue the discussion tomorrow in the ordinary way, when everything could be wound up in a decorous fashion. Certainly no one who has listened to all these debates, which I have not done—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.401.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.402.0", "colnum": "402", "heading": "Postponed Clause.—(PURCHASE TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE.)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No!?", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "Not in the last phrase of the right hon. Gentleman, but, I think, by the sweat of our brow have we reached the present stage. Frankly, I endorse what the right hon. Gentleman has said about the way in which these discussions have been conducted during the last three or four days of our debates on this Bill. Like him, most of my knowledge comes by proxy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.402.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.417.2", "colnum": "417", "heading": "Fifth Schedule.—(PURCHASE TAX (AMENDMENTS OF SCHEDULE OF CHARGEABLE GOODS).)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Logan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Logan", "preceding_text": "I am very edified by the remarks of the right hon. and gallant Member for Gainsborough (Captain Crookshank), and I am also edified by the magnificent manner in which hon. Gentlemen opposite have dealt with elastic. We started this discussion at 11.40, and the Tory Party have been elastic in dealing with it, and with insoles.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.417.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.431.0", "colnum": "431", "heading": "Fifth Schedule.—(PURCHASE TAX (AMENDMENTS OF SCHEDULE OF CHARGEABLE GOODS).)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. M. MacMillan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. M. MacMillan", "preceding_text": "But Harris tweed, which is about 90 per cent. of all the handwoven tweed, carries the hallmark awarded by the Board of Trade. It is a Board of Trade definition, and any infringement would cause the offender to be hailed before the courts. Do the Treasury trust the Board of Trade, and do the Board of Trade trust the Treasury?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.431.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.441.1", "colnum": "441", "heading": "Fifth Schedule.—(PURCHASE TAX (AMENDMENTS OF SCHEDULE OF CHARGEABLE GOODS).)", "cue_speaker": "Miss Ward", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Ward", "preceding_text": "I think this is a most interesting discussion. I should be very interested if the hon. Member would develop that argument. I dare say I have done a good deal more washing in a very much wider field—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.441.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.445.0", "colnum": "445", "heading": "Fifth Schedule.—(PURCHASE TAX (AMENDMENTS OF SCHEDULE OF CHARGEABLE GOODS).)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAdden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAdden", "preceding_text": "nsibility rests with us to prove our cases. However, when the Government suggest an alteration in Purchase Tax on radio and television from 33&#x2153; per cent. to 66&#x2154; per cent. responsibility rests no less on them to prove their case for stepping up the tax. The Chancellor of the Exchequer, when he first mentioned this increase in his Budget, gave more than one reason for its introduction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.445.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.451.4", "colnum": "451", "heading": "Fifth Schedule.—(PURCHASE TAX (AMENDMENTS OF SCHEDULE OF CHARGEABLE GOODS).)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sutcliffe", "cue_text": "Hon. Members:? Yes!?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sutcliffe", "preceding_text": "That may be so, but Scotland is not so near to obtaining television—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.451.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.456.0", "colnum": "456", "heading": "Fifth Schedule.—(PURCHASE TAX (AMENDMENTS OF SCHEDULE OF CHARGEABLE GOODS).)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "preceding_text": "manufacturers of tooth brushes in this country. I found one of them was manufactured by a very large limited liability company, whose activities were so varied that you would not ascertain what profits they were making on tooth brushes. The other two were private companies, and one of them, whom I approached for figures through a reputable agency, frankly refused to give me any information at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.456.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.458.0", "colnum": "458", "heading": "Fifth Schedule.—(PURCHASE TAX (AMENDMENTS OF SCHEDULE OF CHARGEABLE GOODS).)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "speech bristled with wit, some of it apparently unspoken, and my hon.. Friend behind me, whose speech bristled with powerful argument. The real reason why the Government in recent years have hesitated to exempt tooth brushes is mainly that it was felt to be doubtful whether a distinction could be made between the tooth brush and the other brushes my hon. Friend mentioned—hair brushes and so forth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.458.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.472.1", "colnum": "472", "heading": "Fifth Schedule.—(PURCHASE TAX (AMENDMENTS OF SCHEDULE OF CHARGEABLE GOODS).)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "What about taxicabs?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "preceding_text": "ice, these difficulties of principle are real. I am, however, prepared to consider it from the point of view of the individual difficulties that have arisen, but I forsee very great difficulty in dealing with the matter so that it would not raise a whole crop of anomalies and cause any Treasury spokesman great embarrassment in the future. I come finally to the Amendment that has been moved by the—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.472.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-19", "file": "debates1951-06-19a.xml", "sha256": "a7c03b4a8851418f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.475.3", "colnum": "475", "heading": "Sixth Schedule.—(TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS IN CONNECTION WITH INCREASE IN RATE OF PROFITS TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. P. Stevens", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. P. Stevens", "preceding_text": "e accounting period. I seem to be the last of the Mohicans. Clause 24 of the Finance Bill provides that the rate of Profits Tax in respect of profits earned in any chargeable accounting period ending after 31st December, 1950, shall be at the rate of 50 per cent. instead of at the previous lower rate of 30 per cent. But paragraph 2 of the Sixth Schedule extends that principle considerably further.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-19a.475.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.489.12", "colnum": "489", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FALKLAND ISLANDS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer!", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "Do I understand that the right hon. Gentleman does not know who is in British Colonial Territories for which he is responsible?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.489.11"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.491.0", "colnum": "491", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FALKLAND ISLANDS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer!", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Noble", "preceding_text": "Is the Minister aware that his predecessor informed me on 10th March. 1948, that there were one policeman and one or two Customs officers available to enforce the immigration regulations of the Dependencies, and that these immigration regulations were available to deal with small bands of people? Could he say why nothing has been done since then?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.490.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.503.6", "colnum": "503", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ROYAL NAVY", "cue_speaker": "Surgeon Lieut.-Commander Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Surgeon Lieut.-Commander Bennett", "preceding_text": "May I take the opportunity on this first occasion of expressing the gratitude and admiration of myself and of other hon. Members for the determination and bravery with which the search has been carried out?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.503.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.516.2", "colnum": "516", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ARMED FORCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "With very great respect, and bowing humbly to your decision on the point of order, may I be permitted to submit to you that there is a certain strategic connection between the two ideas which comes outside the ordinary principles of order?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.516.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.523.1", "colnum": "523", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "practicable steps for the protection of British lives in accordance with undertakings I have previously given. It is a matter to which we do attach the utmost importance. If the right hon. Gentleman would not mind, I would sooner not be pressed on the other point, because it is the case that it may be that if we say too much in matters of detail we may precipitate the very thing we wish to avoid.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.523.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.524.1", "colnum": "524", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "We have not taken any steps to that end, but it really is not possible to tie oneself as to detail—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.524.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.553.0", "colnum": "553", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LEASEHOLD PROPERTY (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Turner-Samuels", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is that a dubious compliment?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Turner-Samuels", "preceding_text": "t we have had a copious exchange of dubious compliments across the Floor of the House, which neither does credit to the House nor illuminates the point that we are investigating. I listened with great pleasure—as we always do—to the eloquent speech of the hon. Member for Hertford (Mr. Walker-Smith). He has the exceptional gift of being able to make a solid speech on the smallest point that arises.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.553.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.567.1", "colnum": "567", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LEASEHOLD PROPERTY (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Williams", "preceding_text": " my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Northants, South (Mr. Manningham-Buller). We welcome the fact that the Government have at last agreed to accept this Amendment, but I think we back benchers have a right to protest, as we are under very great pressure on our time, that the Government seem to be deliberately wasting our time, a thing I have never done myself and would never dream of doing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.567.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.582.1", "colnum": "582", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LEASEHOLD PROPERTY (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Let me give the simple example of dry-rot to illustrate the point—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.582.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.596.5", "colnum": "596", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LEASEHOLD PROPERTY (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, \"That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said Amendment.\" This is consequential.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.596.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.608.3", "colnum": "608", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TELEPHONE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimston", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimston", "preceding_text": "dure where amendment might be made. That, however, is a Committee point, but I tell the right hon. Gentleman that we feel strongly about it, for the reasons I have stated. We shall certainly want to look into the matter very carefully, when the Bill reaches the Committee stage. I return for a moment to the subject of user of the telephone by Government Departments. It is estimated that the amount—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.608.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.620.1", "colnum": "620", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TELEPHONE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Hay", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Exhausted.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Hay", "preceding_text": "After all the alarms and excursions that we have had during the last 14 days the House has been remarkably placid and quiet this evening.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.620.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-20", "file": "debates1951-06-20a.xml", "sha256": "e081ad8b77ef1ec9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.632.3", "colnum": "632", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TELEPHONE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": "I am sorry, but I must intervene. I suggested that we ought to have had draft regulations and it was at that point that the Postmaster-General indicated, by a motion of his hands, that the size of the draft regulations would be so enormous that it would be quite impracticable to issue them as a draft.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-20a.632.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.702.3", "colnum": "702", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Williams", "preceding_text": "The hon. and gallant Member is not strictly accurate. It is true that there has been some slaughter of heifers and poultry this spring, largely due to weather conditions and the absence of suitable feedingstuffs—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.702.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.714.0", "colnum": "714", "heading": "CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROGRAMME (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "ther consideration. I think we ought to be careful not to accept it until we have had a further opportunity of studying it, but there are one or two questions which occur to me. The first is this. When the Chancellor said that in the next two years some part of the civil building programme is bound to be delayed, does that mean that the Government's programme of 200,000 houses will not be reached?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.714.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.721.2", "colnum": "721", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "But those of us who have put our names to this Motion think that the Ruling of the Chairman of Ways and Means on 5th June on Clause 1 of the Finance Bill raised a serious constitutional issue, and the reason I move this Motion is to clear it up. I hasten to assure you, Mr. Speaker, that it is in no way a personal matter between ourselves and the right hon. Gentleman the Chairman of Ways and Means.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.721.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.723.3", "colnum": "723", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "uch used of closing the debate if necessary. If we do not cling to that we shall eventually become merely the rubber stamps of the Executive. We shall be back to a new form of dictatorial powers corresponding in these matters to those of the unconstitutional monarchy of earlier ages from which the people of this country have freed themselves. I hope that I carry the House with me in that argument—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.723.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.726.1", "colnum": "726", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I am afraid that the hon. Member did not listen to what I was saying. In the first sentence of my remarks, I observed that it was completely unchallenged by anyone that the right of selection lay where it did—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.726.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.730.4", "colnum": "730", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "t without Amendment or without debate, and when the Chair was so armed this process of selection took place. It was urged in favour of that procedure that it was better than either the Closure or the Guillotine. I am sure that all of us who have had experience of seeing the Guillotine in action will agree that of all forms of dealing with Parliamentary discussion the Guillotine is quite the worst—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.730.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.730.4", "colnum": "730", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. Ede)", "preceding_text": "early, on the statement made on pages 534&#x2013;5, that Amendment was out of order. It appears to me, therefore, that the Leader of the House might very well have put this Motion on the Order Paper with regard to last year's action. I do not think that if an error was made last year, it follows that the error should be repeated this year when it was discovered that an error in fact had been made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.730.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.737.1", "colnum": "737", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "The Leader of the House has spoken in that usual strain of temperate, reasonable moderation which endeavours, by carefully selected stepping-stones, to reach a conclusion which suits his own side.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.737.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.738.1", "colnum": "738", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " everything both ways. The fact is that he was surprised, as most people were, as experienced Members were, and as the Home Secretary himself has told us he was, to find that all the Amendments to Clause 1 had been swept away by a decision of the Chair and that immediately we came to deal with the Motion, \"That the Clause stand part of the Bill.\" That is a criticism upon the decision of the Chair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.738.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.738.1", "colnum": "738", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "was right, and that he sought the best method of correctly interpreting his difficult, discretionary duties. I make no imputation upon his bona fides , a word which was dragged in by the Leader of the Liberal Party, nor his good faith. Nothing in the speech of my right hon. and gallant Friend, in moving the Motion, suggested that, but we think we were unfairly treated. One may be unfairly treated—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.738.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.743.1", "colnum": "743", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You never do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "That is the second point to which I was coming. I thought I had made the first point clear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.743.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.743.2", "colnum": "743", "heading": "FINANCE BILL AMENDMENTS (CHAIRMAN'S SELECTION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "everyone, but I hoped that I had made it clear to the Leader of the House. He used language which, if he reads it tomorrow in HANSARD, will make him agree, I think, that he seemed to be speaking for the Cabinet and as though for then it was a decisive argument that to accept any Motion of criticism, in their view, about the Chairman of Ways and Means would necessitate a change in the Chairmanship.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.743.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.751.3", "colnum": "751", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": "ations. They have now asked for what amounts to an interim injunction about this. Meanwhile, while The Hague Court is considering that, it is clear that the British staff must stay. It is as much a Persian as a British interest that they should do so. But if these men are being asked to stay, then it is the inescapable duty of the Government to take any steps that may be necessary to protect them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.751.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.751.3", "colnum": "751", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eden", "preceding_text": " it is clear that the British staff must stay. It is as much a Persian as a British interest that they should do so. But if these men are being asked to stay, then it is the inescapable duty of the Government to take any steps that may be necessary to protect them. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] The Government may be sure that whatever those steps may be, we shall be ready to give them our support.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.751.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.772.1", "colnum": "772", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "eman is suggesting that whether the Persian Government invites us to assist in maintaining law and order or not, we should put troops in. Surely he is not suggesting that the Persian Government are going to ask us to assist in the preservation of law and order. In that case, we should have to make a forcible entry into Persia. We should have to shoot Persian soldiers who would certainly oppose us—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.772.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.773.1", "colnum": "773", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "There is all the difference from the point of view of the invading country. I will give the hon. and gallant Member an instance. The Chinese, the other day, invaded North Korea to protect their installations near to the Yalu river.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.773.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.778.2", "colnum": "778", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "\"That would start a third world war\" the right hon. Gentleman so joyfully said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.778.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.779.0", "colnum": "779", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is the difference?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "n aggressor by a great majority in U.N.O. Then we should either have to withdraw or tear up the covenant. It is quite irresponsible of hon. Gentlemen opposite, who have been assuring us that the war in Korea is fought on behalf of the United Nations Charter and against aggression. No hon. Member on this side of the House has suggested a military occupation for the purpose of maintaining the plant.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.779.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.782.3", "colnum": "782", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "Only on one condition: that we were invited to do so by the Persian Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.782.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.796.1", "colnum": "796", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Ask the Foreign Secretary.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "preceding_text": "ot believe this debate can take place in a realistic atmosphere unless we know what Mr. McGhee said to Salah-El-Dine and what he is saying now. We must know what he said to the Egyptian Government and we must know what he said to the Persian Government, and it would also be interesting to know what he said to the Indian Government. I should like also to know what the Foreign Secretary said to him—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.796.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.817.4", "colnum": "817", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "I did not say that we should evacuate. What I said was that we should stay in Abadan. The technicians should stay there. We should attempt to seek—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.817.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.822.1", "colnum": "822", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Herbert Morrison)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap from a Foreign Secretary.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Herbert Morrison)", "preceding_text": "about 91 out of 126 Deputies were present. There has been what I am informed is a minor demonstration against the company's offices in Teheran, and the Persian Government have now published a decree dissolving the company's information department. That probably will be received with a certain amount of sympathy by certain sections of the British Press, who are much against information departments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.822.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.827.3", "colnum": "827", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I wish that the noble Lord, who is most touchy if anyone says anything about him, and is very quick to raise points of order, could really take things without making persistent interjections.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.827.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.827.3", "colnum": "827", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "er, could really take things without making persistent interjections. [ Interruption. ] We have had from the popular Tory Press militaristic and the old imperialist kind of declarations, and even the \"Daily Telegraph,\" which is so close to hon. Gentlemen opposite, the day before yesterday, or yesterday, I think, was pretty well demanding the starting up of two wars, one in Egypt and one in Persia.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.827.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.827.5", "colnum": "827", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Did a Member throw something across the Floor of the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.827.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.3", "colnum": "828", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "As far as His Majesty's Government are concerned, we do not wish to pursue the matter in that kind of temper and that kind of spirit. We are most anxious to negotiate a settlement based upon mutual respect and mutual understanding of interests—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.3", "colnum": "828", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "As far as His Majesty's Government are concerned, we do not wish to pursue the matter in that kind of temper and that kind of spirit. We are most anxious to negotiate a settlement based upon mutual respect and mutual understanding of interests—[ Interruption. ] I wish hon. Members opposite would be a little less capable of demonstrating their hatred merely because a Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.5", "colnum": "828", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "After all, I and the Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.5", "colnum": "828", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "ment does not wish evacuation to take place. We are certainly not seeking to evacuate the oilfields. It is our wish, as I said yesterday, that the officers and technicians of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company should stay there and should do their work and continue to serve the well-being of these undertakings. That is our wish and we shall pursue that with the greatest energy of which we are capable —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.5", "colnum": "828", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Do not be silly.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "and technicians are scattered about the oilfields, not at Abadan but round the oilfields, some isolated from the possibilities of protection. Supposing they are in trouble; supposing there are efforts to seize the oilfields and supposing they are in difficulties; would it necessarily be wrong to evacuate them to Abadan, or have they to stay there and run a serious risk of possible riot and murder?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.5", "colnum": "828", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Of course.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": " they to stay there and run a serious risk of possible riot and murder? [An HON. MEMBER: \"Do not be silly.\"] I am not being silly. Repeatedly it is said that everybody should stay and I am putting it in this first instance to the test. I gather that hon. Gentlemen opposite, on reflection, are disposed to agree that in those circumstances it would be legitimate and right to evacuate them to Abadan—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.828.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.829.3", "colnum": "829", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I did not say the right hon. Gentleman had, but the Government have been attacked inside this House and outside and then the right hon. Gentleman gets up, as innocent as he can so well be —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.829.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.830.5", "colnum": "830", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "there should be no precipitate manifestation of military force. That is perfectly clear, and let there be no mistake about the line of the United States Government in this matter. Therefore, I think it would be fair to say that they are in general accord with the policy of His Majesty's Government. They accept the view that we have a perfect right to take steps for the protection of British lives.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.830.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.830.5", "colnum": "830", "heading": "PERSIA (ANGLO-IRANIAN OIL COMPANY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "e considerations which the Government have in mind. I can assure the House that we do not take a light view of this at all; we do not think that this is a situation which calls for anything but the gravest consideration, and we are determined to do everything we can in order that the situation shall be dealt with, and that we shall get it right. But we are dealing with an extraordinary Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.830.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.846.4", "colnum": "846", "heading": "ROYAL NAVY (DUTY-FREE GOODS)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "It is not a question of where the \"Theseus\" is today, but where she has been. If it was on foreign service, these Regulations do not apply. The \"Theseus\" having come home and transferred to a new category, I might be right or wrong—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.846.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.846.6", "colnum": "846", "heading": "ROYAL NAVY (DUTY-FREE GOODS)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "ged. Ships on foreign stations have always been in a privileged position by virtue of that fact. Other ships have concessions by virtue of being sea-going in home waters, and others on home establishments are in a different category. The reasons for that I am not going to discuss. That may be left either to the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty or to the Financial Secretary to the Treasury.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.846.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-21", "file": "debates1951-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "bd1de4ac57bd8aeb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.846.6", "colnum": "846", "heading": "ROYAL NAVY (DUTY-FREE GOODS)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "ates, to make it easy for people to get this tobacco and foodstuffs and make such use of them as they think fit, to put money into their pockets. The hon. and gallant Member for Gosport and Fareham referred to the prices of these coupons as if this were a grand thing to do. Is it not precisely the same thing as the Customs trying to stop people taking foodstuffs from this country to the Continent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-21a.846.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-22", "file": "debates1951-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "c9aae8de4249b2d7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.892.1", "colnum": "892", "heading": "SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": " me by issuing this challenge. Fortunately for me, speech is privileged in this House, and I am not accountable in the courts to my hon. Friend for that statement. However, I do not want to abuse the privilege we have of speech in this House, so I shall modify what I said to the extent of saying that when I see some of those meat pies and sausages and other mixtures I have a very strong suspicion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.892.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-22", "file": "debates1951-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "c9aae8de4249b2d7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.921.1", "colnum": "921", "heading": "SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "preceding_text": "s production and also a wider interest which I will come to as I develop my speech. We are extremely indebted to him for the hard work which it is obvious has gone into the preparation of his case; for his thorough understanding of what he has set out to achieve and his exposition, which I think that on the whole, hon. Members will agree was certainly not provocative and was entirely constructive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.921.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-22", "file": "debates1951-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "c9aae8de4249b2d7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.921.1", "colnum": "921", "heading": "SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "preceding_text": "e to as I develop my speech. We are extremely indebted to him for the hard work which it is obvious has gone into the preparation of his case; for his thorough understanding of what he has set out to achieve and his exposition, which I think that on the whole, hon. Members will agree was certainly not provocative and was entirely constructive. [ Laughter. ] There was nothing but construction in it", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.921.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-22", "file": "debates1951-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "c9aae8de4249b2d7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.927.3", "colnum": "927", "heading": "SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hector Hughes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hector Hughes", "preceding_text": "the people of Scotland. It would bring chaos into the gas industry in Scotland; it would increase production costs, damage labour conditions and increase capital charges. It would also intensify distribution problems, interfere with sales policy, injure the development of rural areas and would prejudice the extension and the general utility as an industry of the production and distribution of gas.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.927.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-22", "file": "debates1951-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "c9aae8de4249b2d7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.941.2", "colnum": "941", "heading": "SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "akings. We have had quite a number of reorganisations already. There is our plan of linking grid schemes. Many of them go beyond local authority boundaries, or from one into another, and it may be almost impossible to do what has been suggested and yet have the chance of the efficiency that we expect, and indeed are certain will come, in our gas undertakings for the provision of gas to our people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.941.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-22", "file": "debates1951-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "c9aae8de4249b2d7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.943.6", "colnum": "943", "heading": "SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Financial.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "It has important co ordinating functions on matters of common interest to the gas boards, but it cannot exercise power over any board in the whole of Britain—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.943.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-22", "file": "debates1951-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "c9aae8de4249b2d7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.948.7", "colnum": "948", "heading": "SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "But consultation was carried out with the Consultative Committee, and if they had any point to put forward it would be considered— the Minister is not responsible— by the area board.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.948.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-22", "file": "debates1951-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "c9aae8de4249b2d7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.951.1", "colnum": "951", "heading": "SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot (Glasgow, Kelvingrove)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot (Glasgow, Kelvingrove)", "preceding_text": "sed. She seems to shake her head. Perhaps it may be because of the lack of time available to explain what is in the Bill. We have suffered a great deal in this discussion from the deliberate obstruction carried on earlier, notably by the hon. Member for Kilmarnock (Mr. Ross) who did his utmost to prevent Scotland's needs from being discussed here, by unnecessary verbosity upon a previous question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-22a.951.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.974.2", "colnum": "974", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "It is not surprising that my answer is not dissimilar from the one I gave in April, 1950. I said then that it was a long process.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.974.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1014.1", "colnum": "1014", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (ADDITIONAL LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What paper?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": ",300 accidents. Actually, on investigation, it was found that these figures included all those people who had turned giddy on the \"Big Dipper,\" people who went to the nurse for an aspirin and all sorts of things. The number of people actually involved in accidents is nine, whereas over three million people have been carried on the various amusements. I think that speaks well for the various rides.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1014.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1036.5", "colnum": "1036", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (ADDITIONAL LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAllister", "preceding_text": "and the company received a number of replies. They accepted the lowest tender, which I do not think is always the wise thing to do, but it is the habit in public administration. The lowest tender was that of a company which is not among the first dozen or even 20 leading building firms in this country. I myself would have thought that for a job of this magnitude the company would have been better—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1036.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1055.3", "colnum": "1055", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (ADDITIONAL LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "building industry, an architect, who is divorced from and remote from the contractor, will do the planning. He will send the details to the constructional firm who will carry out the construction. If the contractor gets the wrong details from the architect, he is scarcely likely to make a great deal of trouble, because if he does he will not be put upon the tender list by that architect next time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1055.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1073.1", "colnum": "1073", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (ADDITIONAL LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "an, in an otherwise humorous and agreeable speech, to have castigated my right hon. Friend for doing what we and the whole Opposition consider to be his prime job. The right hon. Member for Streatham asked whether my right hon. Friend was kept informed. Here I am in some difficulty, because with this rather unusual set-up it is extremely difficult to arrive at a real conclusion as to who did what.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1073.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1075.1", "colnum": "1075", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (ADDITIONAL LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "Yes, I think I can do that from memory also. What happened was this. The estimate of November, £1,600,000, was the only figure in the possession of the Lord President when he answered the question on 6th March. As far as I can elucidate it from the company, in the early days of the year they sensed that things were not going quite as well as they had hoped.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1075.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1076.1", "colnum": "1076", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (ADDITIONAL LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "Astonishing as that may seem, that is so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1076.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1076.1", "colnum": "1076", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (ADDITIONAL LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He ought to have been.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "ice has gone up. It is absolutely so. I do not know whether I am allowed to say this or not, but on 8th March the chairman of the company appeared before the Committee of which the right hon. and gallant Member for Leicester, South-East (Captain Waterhouse), is a Member two days after the Lord President gave the answer to the House, and on 6th March the Lord President was not aware of that figure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1076.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1082.2", "colnum": "1082", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FESTIVAL OF BRITAIN (ADDITIONAL LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The former Lord President.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "preceding_text": "I wish only to emphasise a point which has emerged very clearly tonight—and I took my part in the early discussions when the late Lord President of the Council introduced this scheme to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1082.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-25", "file": "debates1951-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "4bfa0c8b125e17bc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1131.1", "colnum": "1131", "heading": "WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION (SUPPLEMENTATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "welcome the Scheme, but there are some sufferers who still remain quite outside its scope. The Act gives the necessary relief to the pre-1924 cases, both accidents and industrial diseases but, unfortunately, for industrial diseases the provisions are limited to silicosis, because silicosis was the only industrial disease scheduled by 1924. At any rate, whether I am right in my recollection or not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-25a.1131.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1190.12", "colnum": "1190", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clement Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clement Davies", "preceding_text": "g God Save the King. Now comes the really important part: Now, with special reference to speeches, as agreed by you and your advisers, the main heads which speakers must confine themselves to— and those words are underlined: \"must confine themselves to\"— —are four in number. 1. The speakers will say that they have accepted the banishment of Seretse and that they do not intend to refer again to it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1190.12"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1214.1", "colnum": "1214", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who are 'They'?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "views the tribe have the advantage, which we have not had, of having known Tshekedi at close quarters for 23 years. What does matter here is, what views are, in fact, held: and, secondly, what consequences would flow from a disregard or flouting of those views of the tribe. They have said, quite clearly, that the results would be, first, disorder; and, second, non-co-operation with the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1214.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1221.1", "colnum": "1221", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "en cast on the genuineness of the tribe's views. It has been said that the Kgotla that I attended was stage-managed. It is said that the views it expressed were put into its mouth by the District Commissioner. I think that is very unjustified. Attacks have been made on this District Commissioner, who, being a civil servant, cannot reply for himself. Therefore. I ought to say a word in his defence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1221.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1221.1", "colnum": "1221", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "o the House by the right hon. and learned Gentleman. It starts off \"for record purposes.\" It does not contain any dictation to the leaders, it contains a record of their own decisions on such matters as chosen speakers. That does not mean that they were speakers chosen by him or, indeed, by these other leaders. In this case he is referring to speakers chosen by the allied tribes to speak for them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1221.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1224.0", "colnum": "1224", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. Davies", "preceding_text": "But they must confine themselves to these four points—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1224.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1228.1", "colnum": "1228", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "are very good indeed and better than they have been for many years. It is not true, therefore, that we are doing things which are not acceptable, that we are falsifying what the tribe want and putting things into their mouths, because there is a great deal of evidence of the happiness of the tribe and of their co-operation with the administration. The tax collection has this year reached a record.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1228.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1232.2", "colnum": "1232", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "That was the underlying assumption.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1232.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1232.4", "colnum": "1232", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who sent the telegram?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "ion which was put down— is causing apprehension in Serowe owing to fear of Tshekedi's return and tribe have asked to meet District Commissioner and say if this happens\"— that is, if he returns\"— the tribe will scatter. Scattering is a thing which was used in the days when these tribes used to attack one another. When the Matabele attacked this tribe they used to scatter and this is an instinctive—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1232.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1237.1", "colnum": "1237", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "ch concerned arid are very well informed about these matters: We are gravely concerned about the marriage of an African chief to a white woman, which we consider disastrous to the purity of African tribes. We have expressed a wish for legislation to prevent such marriages. We consider that the Bamangwato should refuse to accept Ruth, and if Seretse does not agree he should he required to abdicate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1237.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1239.1", "colnum": "1239", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon-Walker", "preceding_text": "an opinion in this matter is very important. We should not lightly ignore the opinion of Africans who really know the conditions and the probable reactions of the people. I realise that very deep feelings and emotions have been aroused about the matter. I should like to ask my hon. Friends why this Government, with its magnificent record in Commonwealth and Colonial affairs, should lightheartedly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1239.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1290.1", "colnum": "1290", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Johnson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"She.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Johnson", "preceding_text": "happened in Swaziland where a past chief was deported and went back and is now tending his cattle in the same manner as is suggested would Tshekedi if he were fortunate enough to have his desserts and go back again to Bechuanaland. We have been told what the Paramount Chief of Basutoland thinks about this affair. We have been told that he is in favour of the action taken by the Secretary of State.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1290.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1298.1", "colnum": "1298", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Low", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Low", "preceding_text": " individual. I will leave it there. The Kgotla is by no means a judicial body, neither by Western standards nor by custom. I think that it is thought by some hon. Members that the Kgotla is a proper, native judicial body, but I am instructed that that is not so. I do not see how the House can expect to get out of the Kgotla a judicial decision in any circumstances whatever. In these circumstances—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1298.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1309.3", "colnum": "1309", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Not necessarily. That undoubtedly could be taken and considered as an expression of opinion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1309.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1309.3", "colnum": "1309", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Not necessarily. That undoubtedly could be taken and considered as an expression of opinion. [ Interruption. ] Certainly. That is the point. I am sure that hon. and right hon. Gentlemen who have had the responsibility of dealing with people in various stages of civilisation must know that one has to consider opinion and native custom. One cannot just ride roughshod over them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1309.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1318.1", "colnum": "1318", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FURNITURE (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "I am grateful for that decision, Mr. Speaker, because I think it will avoid a certain amount of undue repetition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1318.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1318.1", "colnum": "1318", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FURNITURE (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"So they have.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "policy, which leads to this ceaseless increase in the price of things which are vitally necessary to all young people who are getting married, and to a few of their parents, who want a new divan, because that is one of the things we are discussing tonight. I hope the Parliamentary Secretary will not merely get up and say that we cannot help price increases because the price of imports has gone up.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1318.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1326.5", "colnum": "1326", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FURNITURE (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Gomme-Duncan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Or in a girls' school?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Gomme-Duncan", "preceding_text": "r as follows:\"— that is the sixth— 1. The Utility Furniture (Marking and Supply) (Number 2) Order, 1950( e ), as amended( f )\"— that is the seventh— &#x2026; shall have effect subject to the amendments that for Article 7 there shall he sub stituted the following Article&#x2026;\"— and that is the eighth. I ask the Parliamentary Secretary, in all sincerity: Does this make for simplicity in business?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1326.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-26", "file": "debates1951-06-26a.xml", "sha256": "240af6ca943adaea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1332.0", "colnum": "1332", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FURNITURE (MAXIMUM PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "An interim inquiry.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harmar Nicholls", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member states that this is an interim price, which clearly suggests that we are to have a different price in a very short time, after a costing inquiry. What sort of inquiry did he have to arrive at the interim price?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-26a.1331.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1371.2", "colnum": "1371", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; U.N.E.S.C.O. (CHINESE DELEGATE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Duncan Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Duncan Sandys", "preceding_text": "Whilst welcoming the Government's decision to reverse their policy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1371.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1371.2", "colnum": "1371", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; U.N.E.S.C.O. (CHINESE DELEGATE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Duncan Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Duncan Sandys", "preceding_text": "Whilst welcoming the Government's decision to reverse their policy—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—or at any rate to postpone it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1371.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1392.3", "colnum": "1392", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It has.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "preceding_text": "Unless my hon. Friend who is the chairman of the Committee on Estimates had raised the matter today, the question of Privilege would have fallen.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1392.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1395.3", "colnum": "1395", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Lord Privy Seal (Mr. Stokes)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Lord Privy Seal (Mr. Stokes)", "preceding_text": "ge I might express to the House the regret of my right hon. and learned Friend the President of the Board of Trade that he is not able to be in his place today. He has asked me to say that he is sorry not to be here and that he supports the policy contained in the Bill. I hope I shall be expressing the views of the whole House in wishing him a speedy return to good health and to his place with US.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1395.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1395.3", "colnum": "1395", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Lord Privy Seal (Mr. Stokes)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Busy bee.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Lord Privy Seal (Mr. Stokes)", "preceding_text": "eal with the same people. In other words it is not the intention to set up another huge staff of people whom industry has never seen before. Instead, there will be a transfer of certain staffs from the Board of Trade and the Ministry of Supply to my Department. I think I could, perhaps, most aptly describe it as a hiving off from those two Departments and a re-hiving of the same people in my hive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1395.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1398.1", "colnum": "1398", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"By whom?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "I was coming to that. It depends on how many get axed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1398.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1412.1", "colnum": "1412", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "preceding_text": "ent of the existing machinery for the procurement and allocation of raw materials, and to tell us the basic assumptions underlying the existing machinery, and why, in his opinion, or in the opinion of the Government, the existing machinery had failed. Clearly, it is a confession of failure of the existing machinery that the Government should have to bring this entirely new Ministry into existence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1412.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1418.1", "colnum": "1418", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "preceding_text": "of the Government—that is not what he will be. He will be abroad in respect of some raw materials, both as the procurer and allocator. In respect of other raw materials—I need not go through the list—he will be the procurer but not the allocator. And in respect of a third range of raw materials, he will have no responsibility at all. Therefore, far from speaking with authority covering everything—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1418.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1421.7", "colnum": "1421", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "preceding_text": "It is not. It is a question of the use of words. Now I turn to paragraph 17 and I invite the hon. Member to read that. If he can make any sense out of it he is more clever than I am, and a good many of my hon. Friends on this side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1421.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1421.7", "colnum": "1421", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "preceding_text": "sible, it will he for the Ministry to initiate schemes for effective allocation.&#x2026; In one sentence it says that the allocation of raw materials to individual firms is to be the responsibility of the Ministry of Supply and the Board of Trade, and in the following sentence it says that the new Ministry of Materials is to be responsible for these allocations. It may be just damned bad drafting—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1421.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1442.1", "colnum": "1442", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Wilson", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Wilson", "preceding_text": "I think the best that can be said of this Bill is that it is a regrettable necessity. The worst that can be said of it I do not propose to attempt to say.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1442.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1468.1", "colnum": "1468", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "preceding_text": "have sought to do and certainly more effective than anything which my right hon. Friend attempted to do when he was President of the Board of Trade. I regret that he is not present to hear me making this statement, because I feel that he himself can certainly not be absolved from responsibility for having failed to arrest some of the rises in prices which have taken place over the last few months.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1468.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1484.1", "colnum": "1484", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh! \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "preceding_text": "Very well, a long-term agreement made by the Minister. I will not put it in any other way. After all, I think one hon. Member asked why it is that private industry and private firms cannot be left to themselves to think out and develop their own ideas but the average private firm does no long-term thinking.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1484.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1490.1", "colnum": "1490", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Watkinson", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Watkinson", "preceding_text": "oint the right hon. Gentleman the Lord Privy Seal as an overall co-ordinator and \"troubleshooter,\" who would be free to go about the world sorting out these difficulties of raw materials, and who would not be burdened with Departmental responsibilities. I am a little surprised, personally, that the Lord Privy Seal, who has just come in, and whose long background of business experience I know well—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1490.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1506.1", "colnum": "1506", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer. (Mr. Gaitskell)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Supervisor.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer. (Mr. Gaitskell)", "preceding_text": "t economic developments, particularly in the international field. The questions that arise when we consider this matter can be divided into three. First, is it desirable that some one Minister should, in present circumstances, have special responsibilities in respect of raw materials? Secondly, if so, should he be a coordinator—the favourite word of the Opposition, the word they have now selected—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1506.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1509.0", "colnum": "1509", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": " was essential that we should have a co-ordinated— and I grant the word here, at this stage policy in Washington, that we should be able to look at the problem as a whole and ensure that responsibility was pinned down on one Minister in that respect. Secondly, it was undoubtedly the fact that, as a result of the re-armament programme, the Ministry of Supply, which is already a very large Ministry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1509.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1524.1", "colnum": "1524", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": " to throw away public money, we on this side of the House feel it is part of our duty to the people who have sent us here to protect public funds. It is perfectly fantastic for the Minister to make the statement that he has no idea how much money will be involved in this Ministry. I think it shows from the start that the right hon. Gentleman has no idea of the duties he is to perform. I would say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1524.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1524.1", "colnum": "1524", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": " It is perfectly fantastic for the Minister to make the statement that he has no idea how much money will be involved in this Ministry. I think it shows from the start that the right hon. Gentleman has no idea of the duties he is to perform. I would say— [Interruption.] I have plenty of time. I wish the constituents of hon. Members opposite who sent them here would listen to some of these debates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1524.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1526.2", "colnum": "1526", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Sir Peter Macdonald", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Peter Macdonald", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1526.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1527.2", "colnum": "1527", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Logan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Logan", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Member is on his feet for two or three minutes and does not know whether or not he is in the Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1527.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1527.3", "colnum": "1527", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Macdonald", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Macdonald", "preceding_text": "nce. What I wanted to say was that I view with the greatest apprehension the way in which this Money Resolution, with which we have to deal tonight, is being dealt with, especially by the Government side. I have heard nothing but laughter and cheers and guffaws. Having been in the House for quite a long time, I am conscious that when we deal with matters of this kind, matters of great seriousness—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1527.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1527.3", "colnum": "1527", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Macdonald", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Macdonald", "preceding_text": " the greatest apprehension the way in which this Money Resolution, with which we have to deal tonight, is being dealt with, especially by the Government side. I have heard nothing but laughter and cheers and guffaws. Having been in the House for quite a long time, I am conscious that when we deal with matters of this kind, matters of great seriousness— [Laughter.] I was brought up in an old school", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1527.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1527.5", "colnum": "1527", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Macdonald", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Macdonald", "preceding_text": "I have seen other Ministries set up. One of these was the Ministry of Production. And now we have the Ministry of Materials. What does it all amount to?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1527.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-27", "file": "debates1951-06-27a.xml", "sha256": "32f71e0acc4a1908", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1532.2", "colnum": "1532", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTRY OF MATERIALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw, withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "11.0 p.m.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-27a.1532.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-28", "file": "debates1951-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "4e6ca27a5b893991", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1558.9", "colnum": "1558", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marquand", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir, I think that is about accurate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1558.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-28", "file": "debates1951-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "4e6ca27a5b893991", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1561.5", "colnum": "1561", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; IDENTITY CARDS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Nonsense.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "Will the Minister please consult his colleagues and draw their attention to the grave apprehensions about this matter that have been expressed in the country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1561.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-28", "file": "debates1951-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "4e6ca27a5b893991", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1569.1", "colnum": "1569", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EMPLOYMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir. There was a working party on the employment of blind—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1569.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-28", "file": "debates1951-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "4e6ca27a5b893991", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1602.0", "colnum": "1602", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Houses and grounds.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "the Clause. It is a good phrase, indicating broadly the kind of property we have in mind. On the second point he raised, about the National Trust, of course the Trust is concerned with land, apart from buildings, whereas the main purpose of the Gowers Committee's Report was to ensure the preservation of historic houses. That is probably the explanation which the hon. and gallant Member is seeking.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1602.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-28", "file": "debates1951-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "4e6ca27a5b893991", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1632.1", "colnum": "1632", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. Gentleman is speaking from experience.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daines", "preceding_text": "n of the owner-occupier. Surely, that has been in operation for years. It can easily be tied up so that, if necessary, it is recoverable. We get the same provision under the Small Dwellings (Acquisition) Act where the position is safeguarded. I hope the Government will forgive me for having a minor revolt over this, but I have recently bought another house myself, and know what I am talking about.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1632.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-06-28", "file": "debates1951-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "4e6ca27a5b893991", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1690.1", "colnum": "1690", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "They are not small companies.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Booth", "preceding_text": "If that is the case, how is it that at present—and it is happening every week—companies with privately held capital are putting their shares on the Stock Exchange and those shares are being bought at a very heavy premium?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1690.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-28", "file": "debates1951-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "4e6ca27a5b893991", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1693.0", "colnum": "1693", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walter Fletcher", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walter Fletcher", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Bolton, West (Mr. J. Lewis) speaks with some authority on this subject, having, I believe, gone through this particular process not so long ago, in the same way as I was compelled to do a good many years ago with a family business of the fourth generation", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1693.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-28", "file": "debates1951-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "4e6ca27a5b893991", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1747.0", "colnum": "1747", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General(Sir Frank Soskice)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General(Sir Frank Soskice)", "preceding_text": " purchaser for £200,000, and the second purchaser spends £200,000 in getting the minerals out of the earth. If the second purchaser were allowed depletion allowance to the full extent of his expenditure, the result would be that the Treasury would obtain tax on £600,000, that is to say, £1 million less two lots of £200,000, although it only cost £300,000 to bring into being that source of income.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-28a.1747.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-29", "file": "debates1951-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "2c8d3ed8197a900f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-29a.1770.1", "colnum": "1770", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINERAL WORKINGS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Derek Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not Chancellor.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Derek Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": " advice which was tendered from this side of the Committee had been taken, the difficulty would not have arisen. What was said was that where there were these cases for exemption they should be treated as cases for exemption and excluded from liability to development charge instead of being taken care of by being given a preferred claim on the fund. If that course had been taken by the Chancellor—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-29a.1770.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-06-29", "file": "debates1951-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "2c8d3ed8197a900f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-29a.1832.0", "colnum": "1832", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RURAL WATER SUPPLIES AND SEWERAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nugent", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nugent", "preceding_text": "assic example in the Cranleigh area, where the Cranleigh and Chiddingfold Company has been waiting for about two years to connect up with the Godalming supply. There is a big scheme which has just been approved for amalgamating four or five individual supplies there, but the position is that in the Cranleigh area farmers and horticulturists have been short of water every summer for 10 or 15 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-06-29a.1832.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-02", "file": "debates1951-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "7ea67bd1f017ffc0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.1871.3", "colnum": "1871", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Wilson", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"For how long?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Wilson", "preceding_text": "Is the Minister aware that one firm in my division had 57 stations out of 58 closed by embargoes on 1st June this year?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.1871.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-02", "file": "debates1951-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "7ea67bd1f017ffc0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.1878.5", "colnum": "1878", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnes", "preceding_text": "I am not conversant with, nor do I very much care about, what any particular hon. Member says —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.1878.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-02", "file": "debates1951-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "7ea67bd1f017ffc0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.1897.8", "colnum": "1897", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "We cannot hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The Question in which I am interested relates to drastic action.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.1897.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-02", "file": "debates1951-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "7ea67bd1f017ffc0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.1947.2", "colnum": "1947", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": " why they should not be given the right of selectivity and be allowed, if they wish, so to do. If a man owns a stud and trains racehorses, the whole cost of training and educating those racehorses for the track is admitted, for the purposes of calculating Income Tax, as a charge. What is applied to racehorses should surely be applied to young children, even if the young children are thoroughbreds.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.1947.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-02", "file": "debates1951-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "7ea67bd1f017ffc0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.2022.5", "colnum": "2022", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "mber for Kingston-upon-Thames referred to Section 4 of the Post Office Savings Banks Act, 1861. If they will look more closely at that Section, they will see that it deals with making disclosure otherwise than to the Postmaster-General. The Clause we are talking about does not place any obligation on the officers of the Postmaster-General. It places an obligation on the Postmaster-General himself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.2022.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-02", "file": "debates1951-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "7ea67bd1f017ffc0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.2032.1", "colnum": "2032", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Spens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Spens", "preceding_text": "That may be the answer of the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, but, as far as I know, accounts are kept at local post offices.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.2032.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-02", "file": "debates1951-07-02a.xml", "sha256": "7ea67bd1f017ffc0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.2045.2", "colnum": "2045", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lionel Heald", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lionel Heald", "preceding_text": "he matter. It must be borne in mind that great prominence was given to the Prime Minister's message in the closing stages of the Westhoughton by-election—that is a fact. It was placarded and was sent out on loudspeakers. No one suggests that the Prime Minister would intentionally make a misleading statement, but it is right to say that widespread indignation has been caused throughout the country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-02a.2045.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2132.7", "colnum": "2132", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Thomas", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that any reduction in the number of council houses available for those in the greatest need as would result from the hon. Gentleman's suggestion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2132.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2138.5", "colnum": "2138", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Orr-Ewing", "preceding_text": "Is it not the case that capital expenditure does not appear on the Minister's Vote.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2138.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2155.1", "colnum": "2155", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "tion, do all they can to hamper the Government by means of sham fights and late Sittings.&#x2026; They were not sham fights. If they had been sham fights they would have had no results, but they did have results. It was all the more discreditable of the right hon. Gentleman that he should have said that at a time when he was motoring to Glasgow—not using the British Railways which he nationalised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2155.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2157.0", "colnum": "2157", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. Gaitskell)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why should he go to Glasgow? He ought to have been here", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. Gaitskell)", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and gallant Gentleman cannot. be allowed to make aspersions of that kind upon my right hon. Friend without retaliation. Does not the right hon. and gallant Gentleman realise the purpose of my right hon. Friend's visit to Glasgow? He did not want to go particularly, but he was asked to go by the Glasgow Corporation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2157.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2157.0", "colnum": "2157", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. Gaitskell)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. Gaitskell)", "preceding_text": "lant Gentleman cannot. be allowed to make aspersions of that kind upon my right hon. Friend without retaliation. Does not the right hon. and gallant Gentleman realise the purpose of my right hon. Friend's visit to Glasgow? He did not want to go particularly, but he was asked to go by the Glasgow Corporation. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Why should he go to Glasgow? He ought to have been here] Because he was—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2157.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2157.3", "colnum": "2157", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "t it very strongly that to accuse my right hon. Friends and myself—when we were doing the public duty which we were sent to Westminster to do, of dealing with the finance of the year—of waging a sham fight, is something which we resent very much. It is not only the Prime Minister who gets invited by corporations and other bodies and sometimes have to refuse on the ground that they have to be here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2157.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2160.1", "colnum": "2160", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member says, \"So what?\" It is a very bad thing that the Government should get themselves mixed up in that way. I should have thought that even the hon. Member would remember, without my telling him again, about the groundnuts, the Gambia, and all the rest of it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2160.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2161.4", "colnum": "2161", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "Certainly it was. Mr. Chamberlain himself said it was for the purpose of preventing tax avoidance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2161.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2202.4", "colnum": "2202", "heading": "FINANCE BILL.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "I do not accept that position for a moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2202.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2261.2", "colnum": "2261", "heading": "UTILITY CLOTHING SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "preceding_text": "posal to cut the cost of living has been opposed and defeated by the Government. If the cost of living rises, as it will rise, the responsibility will lie on the benches opposite, and I regret to say that from their political point of view and from the point of view of their political fortunes, every man, woman and child in the country will know where to point the finger as the source of the evil.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2261.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2271.1", "colnum": "2271", "heading": "UTILITY CLOTHING SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "anies that tomorrow morning publish their accounts in any newspaper and compare the amount paid in wages and salaries and the amount of the net distributed profits, tax-free in both cases, and he will find that in most companies the ratio is about 15 to one. If we were to wipe out the whole of the distributed profits it would not make more than 3 or 4 per cent. difference to the price of anything.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2271.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2272.11", "colnum": "2272", "heading": "UTILITY CLOTHING SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Only 10s. a week.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "In those years, when I was first a Member of Parliament, we laid the basis of our modern social services, including the whole system of widows' pensions, orphans' pensions and contributory old age pensions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2272.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2272.11", "colnum": "2272", "heading": "UTILITY CLOTHING SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "In those years, when I was first a Member of Parliament, we laid the basis of our modern social services, including the whole system of widows' pensions, orphans' pensions and contributory old age pensions. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Only 10s. a week.\"] It was more than the 5s. allowed by Lloyd George, and it was contributory without a means test.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2272.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2277.6", "colnum": "2277", "heading": "UTILITY CLOTHING SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "ge? From my knowledge of trade negotiations with the Board of Trade to fix prices for utility clothing, for carpets or for any other manufactured commodity. I have always found the Board of Trade not only most capable, most helpful and most punctilious, but most fair in trying to ensure that an excessive profit is not earned by the manufacturer and that the interests of the consumer are protected.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2277.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2279.2", "colnum": "2279", "heading": "UTILITY CLOTHING SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "y monkey nut schemes in East Africa, or any egg schemes in West Africa; there would not be any National Health Service, any educational reform, or any of the social services for which hon. Members opposite take credit, if it were not for British industry providing the financial sinews through their contribution of two-thirds of all the gross profits that are earned, being returned to the Treasury.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2279.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-03", "file": "debates1951-07-03a.xml", "sha256": "ab5fc3b7907a26a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2280.5", "colnum": "2280", "heading": "UTILITY CLOTHING SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Her name happens to be 'Mann'.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nabarro", "preceding_text": "The hon. Lady said it in a very masculine voice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-03a.2280.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2307.6", "colnum": "2307", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Beswick", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Beswick", "preceding_text": "A 100 per cent. service that is not improperly marred by other things.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2307.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2307.9", "colnum": "2307", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "We all do.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Beswick", "preceding_text": "No, Sir, it is not the usual practice to publish the detailed evidence. I think it would be unfair. Since the hon. Member for Worcester (Mr. G. Ward) seems to think my previous reply so funny—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2307.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2310.2", "colnum": "2310", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; JAPAN (PEACE TREATY)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Davies", "preceding_text": "Does that mean that the House will have an opportunity of considering the matter before we are finally committed? That is the point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2310.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2316.4", "colnum": "2316", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; KOREA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": " this particular statement which has been made is likely to weaken the efforts which are being made at his request, and the request of His Majesty's Government, throughout the country, by people of all parties to sustain and develop the defences of the country; and does he not think he would be better employing his power and authority to get some discipline and order among his principal Ministers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2316.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2317.0", "colnum": "2317", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; KOREA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. In view of the evasive nature of the reply —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2317.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2319.7", "colnum": "2319", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; KOREA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that many of us have been pressing for consideration of the case of these men, many of whom are suffering considerable hardship, over the last five years, and will he give fair consideration to it despite the hatred of his side of the House for those who fought for their country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2319.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2335.3", "colnum": "2335", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TELEPHONE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKie (Galloway)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKie (Galloway)", "preceding_text": "ummer Recess. I think the Assistant Postmaster-General has done his best with regard to Kingston-upon-Hull, after the very able speech and the many interrogations which were addressed to him by my hon. Friend the Member for Hull, North (Mr. W. R. A. Hudson). I think he has eased the mind of my hon. Friend—he has eased mine—but he has left me very doubtful indeed about the private branch exchanges—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2335.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2356.4", "colnum": "2356", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TELEPHONE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": " use it better than the right hon. Gentleman used it this afternoon. He knows as well as every hon. Member knows, how difficult it is in practice to bring a Minister of the Crown to book on a somewhat special and peculiar matter. In the first place, owing to the number of Questions nowadays, Ministers can only answer oral Questions fairly infrequently and when they are towards the top of the list.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2356.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2364.1", "colnum": "2364", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TELEPHONE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKie", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKie", "preceding_text": " the right hon. Gentleman's mind. It has been apparent throughout the whole of this discussion that the right hon. Gentleman and his hon. Friend delight in clouding the issue, where possible, and in using words in such a nebulous form that we on this side of the Committee, at all events, are none too clear about the meaning. We are specially charged with the task of protecting the public interest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2364.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2397.0", "colnum": "2397", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TELEPHONE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McKie", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McKie", "preceding_text": "il. The right hon. Gentleman will be aware that the Channel Islands regard themselves in relation to this country as the parent and we are only the offspring. I should have thought that in these small islands—small in area but historically very important—most persons who are possessed of their ancient rights have been duly consulted. I mean people like the Bailiff of Guernsey and the Dame of Sark—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2397.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2414.3", "colnum": "2414", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NICKEL (PROHIBITED USES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": " I read a long report by the Chairman of the International Nickel Company of Canada to the directors of that company, in which he said that it had been a splendid year for them because of the Korean war. As a result of the Korean war, as a result of the great demand for nickel for the armament industries and for use in Korea, the International Nickel Company of America had a record year of profit.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2414.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2414.3", "colnum": "2414", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NICKEL (PROHIBITED USES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "ny had had such a splendid year as a result of Korea, the chairman went on to say that they regretted very much that they had lost one of their important directors during the year. The important director that they had lost was Mr. John Foster Dulles, who had enjoyed the prosperity of the International Nickel Company and who was one of the gentlemen responsible for getting us into the war in Korea.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2414.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2426.1", "colnum": "2426", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NICKEL (PROHIBITED USES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nicholls", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They are much more ignorant.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nicholls", "preceding_text": "discuss it in some detail and understand what it means. We could not do worse than take a leaf out of the book of the United States of America. I have with me a copy of the American M.14, which is the equivalent of our statutory instrument. In it there is greater coherence, and they appear to go to much greater trouble so that the people likely to be affected shall understand what it is all about.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2426.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-04", "file": "debates1951-07-04a.xml", "sha256": "1d9ccde47188dcb7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2447.1", "colnum": "2447", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; NICKEL (PROHIBITED USES)", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Banks", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Banks", "preceding_text": "o be constructive and to be helpful about the use of nickel in the future. I did not simply say, \"We want more than we have\"; I simply said, \"Let us try to do it the right way.\" I am bitterly disappointed that after 1 have laboured so hard to give a number of constructive suggestions, all I have heard from the Dispatch Box has been a lot of whitewash which does not register with those in industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-04a.2447.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2509.1", "colnum": "2509", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ARGENTINE TRADE AGREEMENT", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "r was raised, and certainly not that any agreement was reached, because there is nothing about it in the Protocol. We do know from the trade information that there are something like 2,000,000 tons of maize available for export. Let us hope that we get some of it, although we know that other countries are also in the market. The other important thing we hoped to get out of this Agreement was meat.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2509.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2523.2", "colnum": "2523", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ARGENTINE TRADE AGREEMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "preceding_text": "mmitment under the 1949 Agreement, which was to run for five years, was a million and a half tons. The commitment in respect of tinplate is 27,000 tons, compared with 30,000 tons in the 1949 Agreement. The 1949 Agreement had commitments over a whole range of other things. Frankly, the shortage of essentials of this kind was the greatest disadvantage under which we laboured during the negotiations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2523.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2561.7", "colnum": "2561", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Captain Crookshank: £120.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Economic Secretary denied it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "So have I, and I have followed these things even more closely than the right hon. Gentleman. There is no evasion about this. We have set down in all these negotiations the approximate quantities of meat we supposed we were going to get. That happens all the time and the figures we arrive at are the figures we expect to get, though in some cases they may be more and in some cases less.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2561.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2561.7", "colnum": "2561", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Captain Crookshank: £120.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Of course he did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "ely than the right hon. Gentleman. There is no evasion about this. We have set down in all these negotiations the approximate quantities of meat we supposed we were going to get. That happens all the time and the figures we arrive at are the figures we expect to get, though in some cases they may be more and in some cases less. [HON. MEMBERS: \"The Economic Secretary denied it.\"] I do not think so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2561.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2561.7", "colnum": "2561", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Captain Crookshank: £120.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "ead and work out proposals to cover the buying of coarse grains. The price will be difficult, because the amount of coarse grains available in the world is not adequate for world demand, but when we get a settled price I am reasonably confident that we shall get adequate supplies of coarse grains from that part of the world. But its exclusion from this Agreement does not amount to anything at all—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2561.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2572.9", "colnum": "2572", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "preceding_text": "ything which hon. Members opposite feel is right under a trade union agreement? Why did not the Minister of Transport inquire into the matter? We have many depots in which there is no representative of the N.U.R. In one case, the schedules at Winchester are referred to a member of the National Union of Railwaymen who comes from Poole, 30 miles away. What can he know about conditions in Winchester?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2572.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2573.2", "colnum": "2573", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Who is saying this?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "preceding_text": " happened in the present dispute: That over 4,000 trade unionists in the nationalised undertaking should be humiliated, victimised and denied the right to have any say in matters affecting their wages and their working lives appeared to be of no concern to the Trades Union Congress General Council. I shall not weary the Committee with the other remarks in the same vein, but the Report finishes up—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2573.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2573.2", "colnum": "2573", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "preceding_text": " that that phrase \"any of the men\" merely meant that any one man could make his own private representation. I charge the Minister with not being frank at the meeting or keeping to the undertaking that he gave in order to remedy that strike and which we as a joint body, Labour and Conservative M.P.s, passed on to the men in all good faith as a means whereby they could get their injustices remedied.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2573.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2575.1", "colnum": "2575", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about 1926?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Crosthwaite-Eyre", "preceding_text": "r to say that, just because a person has been in a union for two years, he is, or must be, satisfied with what he is getting from that union. We feel that real harm is being done to trade unionism by Ministers who are not prepared to stand for three simple things—the fundamental rights of a trade unionist, the fundamental rights of a man to join a union which he thinks will best serve his purpose—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2575.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2579.4", "colnum": "2579", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Will speak?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morley", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend the Member for The Hartlepools (Mr. D. Jones) who is going to speak later—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2579.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2581.3", "colnum": "2581", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morley", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"If he catches the bus.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morley", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member can speak later on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2581.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2591.5", "colnum": "2591", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "preceding_text": "mething to say about schedules. I wonder if he knows what a schedule is. He alleges that the new schedule would reduce the wages of the workers of the Hants and Dorset Company by 7s. 6d. per week. What did the schedule seek to do? It sought to include in the daily working time of the drivers and conductors of the Hants and Dorset Bus Company work which had formerly been paid for at overtime rates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2591.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2599.0", "colnum": "2599", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Smithers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is there.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Smithers", "preceding_text": "I tried to make clear to the Committee that these men think they have a grievance. They may be wrong. I do not know, but as long as they think that, the machinery of consultation will not work, somehow or other it has to be put right.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2599.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2618.1", "colnum": "2618", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Robens)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Robens)", "preceding_text": "ew Forest had to rely upon being briefed by Mr. Baker the secretary of this breakaway union, who has been assisted by a Central Office official of the Conservative Party. They have been sitting together not 100 miles from where I am standing. I want to give a warning to the members of this breakaway union. It is this. The Conservative Party are the traditional enemy of the workers of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2618.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2618.1", "colnum": "2618", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Robens)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Is that the Labour Party's official line?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Robens)", "preceding_text": "y union, who has been assisted by a Central Office official of the Conservative Party. They have been sitting together not 100 miles from where I am standing. I want to give a warning to the members of this breakaway union. It is this. The Conservative Party are the traditional enemy of the workers of this country. [ Interruption. ] The Conservative Party are the traditional enemy of the workers —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2618.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2618.1", "colnum": "2618", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Robens)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh!\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Robens)", "preceding_text": "riend the Member for The Hartlepools, as to the activities of Mr. Baker. They should be well warned that what they are doing does not improve the strength and organisation of the trade union movement or enable the trade union movement to raise the standards of the workers, but will aid the Conservative Party in their well-avowed and well-known intention of trying to split the trade union movement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2618.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2620.1", "colnum": "2620", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about Mr. Horner?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": " that union have all the democratic power they need to make such arrangements as they want to ensure that they get adequate representation. It is not any use hon. Members shaking their heads in disagreement; it is a fact. The trade union movement is a much more democratic organisation than the Conservative Party organisation, which has its policy laid down for it by a gentleman called The Leader.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2620.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2620.1", "colnum": "2620", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "e to give any sort of recognition to a breakaway union under any circumstances. I will do nothing at any time that will weaken the strength of the organised trade union movement that has been built up over 100 years of struggle, and I do not propose to undermine the position they have built up. In all these matters I am ready to do what I can to compose differences and prevent industrial disputes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2620.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2622.4", "colnum": "2622", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HANTS AND DORSET BUS COMPANY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robens", "preceding_text": "If hon. Members opposite want to take up time, that is ail right. Secondly, I said it did not matter very much if more than one person approached the schedule committees and that it could be groups of one, two, or three. I have checked up with the management on that and I am informed", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2622.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2627.6", "colnum": "2627", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PLASTERBOARD (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "ne by a very generalised argument and I think there is a presumption there which really ought to be rebutted before this Order becomes permanent. That is on the first point. The second point is: Is this price as now fixed, whether or not there ought to be any fixing, sufficient? On this I would like if I may to begin with a general kind of confession of faith in this matter. I am not going to try—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2627.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2640.3", "colnum": "2640", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PLASTERBOARD (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "An. HON. MEMBER: \"Un-British.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "his company being so efficient and others being inefficient what is the implication? If the others have higher prices is it not inferred that they are inefficient? The hon. Member for Carlton (Mr. Pickthorn) made a reasonable speech. What was the point of the remark he made that if they were inefficient, they would get higher prices? It must contain the implication that the others are inefficient.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2640.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2643.1", "colnum": "2643", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PLASTERBOARD (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The LCI\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "l man out of business. It may well be that market conditions would do that if it were a free market—I do not know; I would hope not—but it ought not to be my action which did it. If I gave the industry a price which was justified on the big man's cost of production, it would have that effect. Even on the differential price the small man is barely making a profit as it is. He is just keeping going.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2643.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2645.1", "colnum": "2645", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PLASTERBOARD (PRICES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the statement to the Press?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": " for Westmorland (Mr. Vane) asked, quite fairly, what about Thomas McGhie & Sons, Ltd., who produce gypsum? Have they threatened to go outside the Order? As he knows, they are a subsidiary, wholly owned by the group, and it is to be assumed that their policy will be the policy of the group. It is quite true that the group have not voluntarily walked out in this case, as they did in the other case.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2645.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-05", "file": "debates1951-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "7887302c49a69f9d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2666.1", "colnum": "2666", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOSPITAL COMMITTEE, WIMBLEDON (OFFICER'S DISMISSAL)", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Health (Mr. Blenkinsop)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about an appeal? \"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Health (Mr. Blenkinsop)", "preceding_text": "f Members opposite who, at one and the same time, complain of too much interference by Whitehall—or even by Savile Row, now that the Ministry of Health has moved there—in the day-to-day work of the hospital authorities, and yet, in individual cases, when they may dislike the decision of these hospital authorities, continuously demand that we should interfere. That seems to be a fantastic position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-05a.2666.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-06", "file": "debates1951-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "5c1a44401872f692", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-06a.2672.6", "colnum": "2672", "heading": "280 RIFLE (N.A.T.O. DISCUSSIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Major Tufton Beamish", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Of course it will.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Tufton Beamish", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that on 25th April when he announced in the House that this new rifle was being introduced, it was only under cross-examination that he said that it would take some time until we had a sufficient quantity of the new weapon.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-06a.2672.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.6.3", "colnum": "6", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": "I wish the hon. and gallant Member would not interrupt on a point of order. Is it not a tradition of this House, Mr. Speaker, that before an hon. Member puts down a Question on the Order Paper about another hon. Member's division he should advise that hon. Member that he is doing so?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.6.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.6.3", "colnum": "6", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": "would not interrupt on a point of order. Is it not a tradition of this House, Mr. Speaker, that before an hon. Member puts down a Question on the Order Paper about another hon. Member's division he should advise that hon. Member that he is doing so? [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Further, are you aware, Mr. Speaker, that only last Wednesday I was in private conversation with the Minister of Power and Fuel—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.6.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.7.1", "colnum": "7", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; COAL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman may not say that what another hon. Gentleman says is totally untrue. He may say that an hon. Member is mistaken, but he may not say that what he has said is totally untrue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.7.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.26.2", "colnum": "26", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MR. ARTHUR HORNER (SPEECH)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "preceding_text": "s of the Section, \"any fraudulent device\" to delude the electorate? Further, will the Attorney-General give an assurance that he is not in any way motivated by the fact that if an offence has been committed by this gentleman on this occasion, there might be a great difficulty over the fact that the Secretary of State for the Colonies was present as an aider and abettor and should also be indicted?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.26.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.26.7", "colnum": "26", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MR. ARTHUR HORNER (SPEECH)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "preceding_text": "I made it clear, Sir, that the question was put to the AttorneyGeneral—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.26.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.35.5", "colnum": "35", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RE-ARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "preceding_text": "ident about the future to install new equipment on the scale required or, equally important, to take the considerable trouble involved in reorganisation, Labour on its side adopted —or if hon. Members opposite prefer it, was forced to adopt—restrictive practices in order to see that the jobs that were going were as far as possible shared out. Conditions have changed fundamentally since those days.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.35.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.35.5", "colnum": "35", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RE-ARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. S. Hudson", "preceding_text": " a fuller life for themselves and their families. Indeed, the Minister of Labour himself seemed to recognise this when he appealed, as I think he did in the speech at Porthcawl to which I have referred, or at all events in a recent speech, to industrial workers to free themselves from what he called prejudices created by bygone days, including the fear of redundancy, unemployment and wage cutting.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.35.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.83.1", "colnum": "83", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RE-ARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leather", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The 'Daily Express'?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leather", "preceding_text": "We can start with \"The Times\" and the \"Manchester Guardian.\" The hon. Gentleman must not get me on the wrong tack. I am talking about the purely reputable journals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.83.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.132.1", "colnum": "132", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RE-ARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "ussians had 175 divisions. Hardly a year afterwards the Minister for Defence said that there had been a mistake about these figures and that the Russians had, not 175 divisions, but 200 divisions, so that in the course of 12 months the number of Russian divisions against which we had to re-arm had gone up by 25 divisions. But now comes the Under-Secretary of State for War, and he gives the figure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.132.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.133.1", "colnum": "133", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RE-ARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We are listening to one now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": " when we are asked questions in the country. To what extent are we to be asked to re-quote figures which are so often altered as the intensity of the propaganda campaign develops? I was very interested in what the hon. Member for Abingdon said about bottlenecks and mischievous people. I do not think we can discard the possibility that there are, or are likely to be, mischievous people in industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.133.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-23", "file": "debates1951-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "cfcc76968f196909", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.157.1", "colnum": "157", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RE-ARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "That can probably be done to some extent, but it would not deal with anything like the major part of the problem. In reply to the hon. Member's other question, when the War Office made up its mind on the number of tanks wanted, that is a rather complicated and detailed matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-23a.157.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.192.2", "colnum": "192", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "Really, this gross attempt to make party capital must be resisted. Is the Minister not aware that he was pressed by the Opposition for many a long month before the slightest action was taken by the Government?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.192.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.202.8", "colnum": "202", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; WAR EMERGENCY POWERS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hector Hughes", "preceding_text": "Is not the practice adopted on this occasion similar to the practice adopted by this country after World War I?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.202.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.204.9", "colnum": "204", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Vaughan-Morgan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Which paper?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Vaughan-Morgan", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that I have sent him copies of the cutting?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.204.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.208.3", "colnum": "208", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING ABDULLAH OF THE JORDAN (TRIBUTES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "I hope I am in order in seconding the Motion. At any rate I give it my wholehearted support. I agree with the Prime Minister that we cannot easily or lightly add words to those which were spoken yesterday under the promptings and spur of this loss, but it is a very great loss.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.208.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.223.1", "colnum": "223", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": " in ability between different people. It should not be thought that if a boy goes to a technical school or to a secondary modern school he is more clever and more able than a boy who goes to another school. He has a different ability. We have got to stress the existence of that difference between children. I should like to refer to a statement which I found in \"The Policy for Secondary Education.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.223.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.226.1", "colnum": "226", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "I am coming to it. It says: If this is the century of the common man it must he made the century of the common child. There are no common children. I should like hon. Members to ask parents in this country \"Are all your children the same as everybody else's? Are these the common children? Have they a common design?\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.226.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5", "colnum": "229", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "all quote from the hon. Lady's article. When looking into the subject of the comprehensive school I wondered if it were thought that children would get a better education. I have looked into the matter very carefully, but more and more I have become convinced that there is something more than that in the minds of some. None of us probably takes much notice of what may be said at party conferences—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5", "colnum": "229", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Certainly.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "ensive schools with these words: It is not only the children's education that is at stake. It is the whole basis of society. Of the basis of society we have already heard in a speech made at that conference, and I seriously ask hon. Members opposite: Can they really tell the Committee today that, when they urge having comprehensive schools, they are urging that solely for the benefit of education—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5", "colnum": "229", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "e at that conference, and I seriously ask hon. Members opposite: Can they really tell the Committee today that, when they urge having comprehensive schools, they are urging that solely for the benefit of education—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Certainly.\"]—or do they feel, as has been said, that in that way will be an opportunity of bringing about the Socialist State and of having more uniformity in education?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5", "colnum": "229", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who said it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "oday that, when they urge having comprehensive schools, they are urging that solely for the benefit of education—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Certainly.\"]—or do they feel, as has been said, that in that way will be an opportunity of bringing about the Socialist State and of having more uniformity in education?—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—Well, hon. Members opposite do not agree with what was said at the conference.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.230.0", "colnum": "230", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Who said it?", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Horsbrugh", "preceding_text": "cialist State and of having more uniformity in education?—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—Well, hon. Members opposite do not agree with what was said at the conference.—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Who said it?\"]—It was said at the Labour Party Conference by the mover of a motion. He said: I believe that in the comprehensive system of education lies the basis of educating the next generation to form a Socialist society.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.229.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.251.1", "colnum": "251", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "And why?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. Thomas", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member will appreciate, of course, that whilst we welcome his remarks, the only Government that ever reduced the salaries of teachers was from his side of the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.251.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.251.2", "colnum": "251", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harvey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harvey", "preceding_text": "It is regrettable that so intelligent a man as the hon. Member for Cardiff, West (Mr. G. Thomas), should seek to make purely political capital out of this debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.251.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.263.4", "colnum": "263", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "nhappiness happens; either of human unhappiness for the boy and parents if the tutor is not actively conscientious or if he is, misery and unhappiness to him, because he spends half August writing unnecessary letters to find money. I hope the Minister will look again into that matter fully; because it really wants much more looking into. I come now to three points of controversy, and I must hurry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.263.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.281.1", "colnum": "281", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "every such assessment at the age of 11. Of course, the answer often given is: the comprehensive school. I think it is a great pity that so much party politics has been injected into this conception. There are many of us who have tried to approach it with an open mind, but to find that it is being claimed that comprehensive schools will manufacture more and more little Socialists for the community—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.281.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.288.0", "colnum": "288", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richards", "preceding_text": "I am sorry if I misunderstood the right hon. Lady, but she seemed to imply that Ruskin College was the beginning of it, which is not true.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.288.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.289.1", "colnum": "289", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ashton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ashton", "preceding_text": "ssue in this country.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 17th April, 1951; Vol. 486, c. 1708.] Furthermore, on 4th May, 1950, the hon. Member for Workington (Mr. Peart) said: &#x2026;we shall have to tackle the public school system one day.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 4th May, 1950; Vol. 474. c. 2010.] by the word \"tackle,\" it seemed to me that he was meaning the kind of tackle which is made in Wales—they bring them down.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.289.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.328.1", "colnum": "328", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Tomlinson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Tomlinson", "preceding_text": ", but the build-up of the teaching profession in order to meet this problem is not as simple as would appear on the surface. Generally speaking, we have met the claims of the schools in respect of the raising of the school-leaving age and the additional 380,000 children which that involved, by the emergency training programme. But we cannot have two emergency training programmes in one generation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.328.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.328.1", "colnum": "328", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EDUCATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Tomlinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He is looking at hon. Members opposite.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Tomlinson", "preceding_text": ". As one who visits schools practically every week, I would say, in spite of anything said in the Committee, that the children of this country are not only the bonniest but the best children I have come across at any time. If the hon. Member opposite, who is a little pessimistic because he happens to be sitting in this House of Commons and looking at his pals regularly, will come with me some day—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.328.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.386.1", "colnum": "386", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE OF COMMONS (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henry Strauss", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henry Strauss", "preceding_text": "I am sorry not to be able.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.386.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.386.1", "colnum": "386", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE OF COMMONS (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henry Strauss", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henry Strauss", "preceding_text": "I am sorry not to be able. [ Interruption. ] If hon. Gentlemen opposite are not willing to listen, my speech will be a good deal longer than would otherwise be necessary. I am sorry that I cannot at once accede to the request made by the right hon. Gentleman. It would have been possible if he had got up a little later, well knowing that I wished to put another point of view.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.386.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.387.0", "colnum": "387", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE OF COMMONS (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear,\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "ity, are the exclusive jurisdiction of each House over its own internal proceedings, and the right of either House to commit and punish for contempt. While it cannot he claimed that either House has formally acquiesced in this assumption of jurisdiction by the courts, the absence of any conflict for over a century may indicate a certain measure of tacit acceptance. I could quote a great deal more.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.387.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.390.1", "colnum": "390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE OF COMMONS (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": " leading cases. The words of the hon. Member that I had in mind were: Has it not always been held that the only tribunal which can determine the extent of a Parliamentary Privilege, where there is one, and, if there is one, what are the limits of it, is the House of Commons itself.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 18th July, 1951; Vol. 490, c. 1258.] There is no doctrine which has been so completely overthrown.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.390.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.392.3", "colnum": "392", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE OF COMMONS (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "ny questions of order which are likely to arise in its proceedings. What we are concerned with is that no advice was given, and what was said from the Chair. The matter was about to drift until this unfortunate matter arose, a position, which I suspect, most hon. Members on both sides regret. The matter, with respect, was added to by an unfortunate statement from the Chair, which was premeditated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.392.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.395.7", "colnum": "395", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE OF COMMONS (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. Member may not\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "I will not argue the matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.395.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.399.3", "colnum": "399", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godfrey Nicholson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godfrey Nicholson", "preceding_text": "I suggest to the House that they are making heavy weather of this matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.399.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.399.3", "colnum": "399", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godfrey Nicholson", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godfrey Nicholson", "preceding_text": "I suggest to the House that they are making heavy weather of this matter. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] I hope hon. Members will allow me to proceed. I maintain that the reputation of the Chairman of the Kitchen Committee is good enough to put up with these pinpricks. No one in this House who knows him would accept for a second—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.399.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.401.1", "colnum": "401", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": " is being helpful to me in the course I am going to suggest to the House. There is no doubt in the mind of the hon. Gentleman that this is a most gross and unwarrantable attack on a Member who, irrespective of party, we all hold in esteem. In such circumstances, it has been the practice of the House not to refer the matter to the Committee of Privileges, but to express its opinion that the letter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.401.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.404.3", "colnum": "404", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "available to Members of the House. This fact was well known not only to Members but what is more important, to members of the Press Gallery. What I am distressed about, in relation to the letter in the \"Daily Express\" is the fact that Mr. Barkley, a journalist of wide experience and great reputation among those of us who are journalists, a man who those of us who are journalists admire and respect", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.404.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.404.3", "colnum": "404", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How does the hon. Member admire and respect him then?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "re important, to members of the Press Gallery. What I am distressed about, in relation to the letter in the \"Daily Express\" is the fact that Mr. Barkley, a journalist of wide experience and great reputation among those of us who are journalists, a man who those of us who are journalists admire and respect [HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense\"]—put into the \"Daily Express\" what he knew to be untrue at the time", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.404.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.405.1", "colnum": "405", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Foster", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. and learned Member is a lawyer, That is why he took it as a joke.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Foster", "preceding_text": "One objection against the manuscript Amendment is that it condemns a man unheard. It seems a shocking principle of justice that the House should make a decision about the letter and what it constitutes without letting Mr. Barkley be heard. I take the letter as a joke. I did not laugh at it as a joke.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.405.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.406.4", "colnum": "406", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": "That is an extraordinary proposal by the Home Secretary. He now proposes to condemn a man unheard, and then to decide what sentence he shall inflict.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.406.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.406.4", "colnum": "406", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": "t is nowadays, of the House condemning people unheard. There were cases, as has been said in the course of this debate, of people being put in prison—a couple of judges, the printers, Stock-dale and Hansard. Though he still has not informed the House, I suppose that the Home Secretary has in mind what step he intends to take against Mr. Barkley. Will the Home Secretary tell us what he has in mind?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.406.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.406.4", "colnum": "406", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Write a letter to the 'Daily Express'.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": "ch I hope it will not do. There cannot be a Motion without any content. The Home Secretary does not see fit even to acquaint Mr. William Barkley as to the course he proposes to take against him. I suggest that if the House of Commons accepts the Amendment it is preparing to take a very dangerous step. It is no good appealing to the precedents of the past. It must be wrong to condemn a man unheard.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.406.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.408.0", "colnum": "408", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foster", "preceding_text": "I cannot agree with the hon. Member, because if he regarded this as a serious reflection on him, intended seriously—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.408.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.411.0", "colnum": "411", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir John Mellor", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir John Mellor", "preceding_text": "Did the Kitchen Committee invite Mr. William Barkley to go before it.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.411.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.411.5", "colnum": "411", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": " very little about the things we are discussing—questions of Privilege, and so on. I must confess that when the Home Secretary's proposal was made, supported by the right hon. and gallant Gentleman the Member for Gainsborough (Captain Crookshank) I was perfectly content with it. However, the hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for Northwich (Mr. Foster) has raised in my mind considerable doubts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.411.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.412.1", "colnum": "412", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hardy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hardy", "preceding_text": "I do not propose to speak for very long, but I feel that I cannot possibly support the manuscript Amendment. I must support the Kitchen Committee, because my view is that unless we support the Motion on the Order Paper in the names of the six members of the Committee they stand condemned by the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.412.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.413.3", "colnum": "413", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "nts; it then goes on to say that prices have gone up—that is true—and adds: for three weeks there have been no cigarettes on offer in this palace except Co-op. brands\". To say \"in this palace\" was inaccurate, but in the part of this Palace in which Mr. Barkley could buy cigarettes I believe it was true, for this very simple reason. Very few hon. Members of the party opposite buy Co-op. cigarettes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.413.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.413.3", "colnum": "413", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Of course.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "ble commodity. Let us be honest about this. I did not know there was such a thing as a Co-op. cigarette until I read this document. I have not yet met anybody who smoked them with any satisfaction. Do not let us be humbugged about this. For some reason the Kitchen Committee buys more Co-operative cigarettes than anyone wants to smoke, and for that reason Mr. Barkley —I have known him for 20 years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.413.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.413.3", "colnum": "413", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not true.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "nd for that reason Mr. Barkley —I have known him for 20 years—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Of course.\"] It so happens that Mr. Barkley was educated in my constituency, and is very highly thought of there. He has not communicated with me and I have not seen him to speak to for over a month. I have discussed this with a number of his colleagues, who have access to only one place where they can buy cigarettes —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.413.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.413.3", "colnum": "413", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "hought of there. He has not communicated with me and I have not seen him to speak to for over a month. I have discussed this with a number of his colleagues, who have access to only one place where they can buy cigarettes —[An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not true.\"]—and that is in their own bar. For a substantial period in that bar they could not buy any cigarettes except those they did not want to buy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.413.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.415.6", "colnum": "415", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: How does the hon. Member know? He is not in the Press Gallery.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "e bulk of cigarettes people wanted to buy were bought up in the earlier part of the period, and at the end of the period only those cigarettes no one wants to smoke were left. I had the information that the bulk of the cigarettes made by private enterprise are brought up in the earlier part of the rationing period by hon. Members of the party opposite, with the result that there are very few left.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.415.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.420.0", "colnum": "420", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Oh&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "I have not been present on a similar occasion, but here is a Motion of which we have had no prior notice. It may be that the Motion we have just carried was right. Now we are being asked, without any notice, to pass a further Motion, not on the Order Paper, without any proper consideration to give what appears to be a censure. Surely we must have some sense of justice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.420.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.420.0", "colnum": "420", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The 'Daily Express'.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "he Motion we have just carried was right. Now we are being asked, without any notice, to pass a further Motion, not on the Order Paper, without any proper consideration to give what appears to be a censure. Surely we must have some sense of justice. [HON. MEMBERS: Oh&#x0021;] Hon. Gentlemen who interrupt me do not believe in democratic institutions, but only in the complete system of dictatorship—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.420.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.420.2", "colnum": "420", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "I wish to support my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon, East (Sir H. Williams) in the arguments he has addressed to the House and in the appeal he has made to the Foreign Secretary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.420.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.420.2", "colnum": "420", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "ome matters which are foreign to English principles of justice in this debate. I wish to record my protest also against the House being asked to decide matters of this kind at three o'clock in the morning when they have not appeared on the Order Paper. It means that many hon. Members who might wish to be here and have strong views on matters of this kind have not had the opportunity of being here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.420.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.421.3", "colnum": "421", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You ought to be.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": ", a finding of \"Guilty.\" I really wonder whether the House is in the mood at this moment for the performance of the very delicate duty of deciding upon sentence. The point I should like to put to the House is whether, after a debate which has been somewhat animated at times and in which strong feeling has been shown, we are really now in the mood to perform that judicial duty of deciding sentence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.421.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.422.1", "colnum": "422", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "f Privileges. It may be that many hon. Members have gone home to-night. I do not think that those hon. Members who are present should condemn them, because those who have gone home have taken the view, naturally, I think, that this matter would automatically be referred to the Committee of Privileges, and would therefore come back to the House, when they would have an opportunity of discussing it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.422.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.422.1", "colnum": "422", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Happen to have sat here?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": ". I do not think that those hon. Members who are present should condemn them, because those who have gone home have taken the view, naturally, I think, that this matter would automatically be referred to the Committee of Privileges, and would therefore come back to the House, when they would have an opportunity of discussing it. [ Interruption. ] Other hon. Members happen to have sat here tonight—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.422.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-24", "file": "debates1951-07-24a.xml", "sha256": "3a469cb8b75fde49", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.422.1", "colnum": "422", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": " to have sat here tonight. Certainly no hon. Member of this House of Commons this morning could have known that at three o'clock a Motion was to be passed summoning a journalist to the Bar of the House of Commons, which I say, far from being a small thing, is an important matter. I say, too, that we ought not to use so awe-inspiring a summons as that to deal with such a miserable incident as this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-24a.422.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.445.8", "colnum": "445", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE PACT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not take the initiative?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "My right hon. Friend has made it quite clear to the House that we favour ultimately an extension of the Pact, or some similar pact including the whole of South-East Asia and the Pacific area, and we hope that some such pact will be possible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.445.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.446.1", "colnum": "446", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; PACIFIC DEFENCE PACT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Follick", "preceding_text": "Will the Under-Secretary kindly inform me and the House about the Archipelago of Fiji, which is one of the most important strategic points in all that area, especially with regard to Australia and New Zealand. In the Pacific Pact—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.446.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.453.1", "colnum": "453", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH PASSPORTS (WITHDRAWAL)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "of His Majesty's Government to those persons who request it, unless there is some reason why a passport should not be issued. It is not a document which entitles people to travel or which puts any impediment in their way of travelling. What happens is that if a person tries to leave the country without a passport, it is quite probable that the shipping company or air line would refuse to take him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.453.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.546.1", "colnum": "546", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "preceding_text": "ing of the war. He said that we must not argue that the Russians are weakening. It may be that the hon. Member for Reading, South, overestimated the strength of the Western Powers, or it may be that the hon. Member for Coventry, North, under-estimated; I do not know, but with the present balance of power, why is it that in Persia, for instance, the Russians have not interfered to any great extent?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.546.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.546.1", "colnum": "546", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baird", "preceding_text": "y be that the hon. Member for Reading, South, overestimated the strength of the Western Powers, or it may be that the hon. Member for Coventry, North, under-estimated; I do not know, but with the present balance of power, why is it that in Persia, for instance, the Russians have not interfered to any great extent? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] Why is it in Korea the initiative for peace came from Russia?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.546.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.549.1", "colnum": "549", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Lord John Hope", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about China?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lord John Hope", "preceding_text": " Nations action was led promptly by the United States, and history will say that that was the first active expression of what was so often talked about but was never practised, collective security. Are those the actions of an unreliable ally? No, Sir. The real trouble with the right hon. Gentleman and his friends is that on the biggest issues the United States have been right. That is their crime.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.549.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.550.1", "colnum": "550", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Lord John Hope", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lord John Hope", "preceding_text": "There are those in both countries who have repeatedly urged it. Such a political move at the moment is unrealistic with its deep and inevitable constitutional changes and unpredictable results at a time of crisis.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.550.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.558.1", "colnum": "558", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "preceding_text": "ine, from speeches made by hon. Members opposite in the main, that the only questions they have in their minds and the only thoughts they have are re-armament, air bases, or defence. As far as I could understand in this debate this afternoon, there has been no real constructive thought given to what might be the prospect of bringing about a more peaceful solution to the problems which confront us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.558.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.558.1", "colnum": "558", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "preceding_text": "f given an interview to \"Pravda,\" I understand. We are moving forward. It would not be a bad idea if he were to go a little further and have a talk in Moscow with some of the representatives there. The suggestion was made that high level talks surely ought not to be over. I believe that if the Foreign Secretary will seize some opportunities, for instance, to get Mr. Malik to explain what he meant—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.558.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.582.5", "colnum": "582", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "preceding_text": "e of material forces accounts only for the remaining quarter. It is interesting to note that he said that in correspondence on affairs in Spain. Strategy which leaves that aspect out of account is the strategy of defeat. It is wrongly imagined that it is only Communists in Europe or in this country who would lose heart to a considerable extent if they were to find themselves associated with Spain.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.582.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.593.11", "colnum": "593", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Crookshank", "preceding_text": "of any Select Committee, or indeed of any hon. Member to seek to further his own interest within the sphere of authority delegated to that Member by this House. It seems to me, having heard this letter, that it is a full and ample apology in every way, and that, therefore the position tonight is that we have as a House—I agree there were not many Members here, but it was a representative assembly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.593.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.597.5", "colnum": "597", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No. By whom?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "That was in the letter, but I understood the apology was accepted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.597.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.597.9", "colnum": "597", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Apparently the hon. Member who is aggrieved did not think it was necessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.597.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.600.4", "colnum": "600", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "One can put a Motion on the Order Paper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.600.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-25", "file": "debates1951-07-25a.xml", "sha256": "696b545a60cbeb58", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.600.6", "colnum": "600", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; CHAIRMAN OF KITCHEN COMMITTEE (PRESS CORRESPONDENT'S LETTER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "I desire to be of help to the House. When the learned Clerk read the Order, nobody said \"Now.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-25a.600.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.646.0", "colnum": "646", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clement Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Most improper.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clement Davies", "preceding_text": "It may be a matter of convenience to the Leader of the House to know that the Committee of Privileges has agreed upon their Report.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.646.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.647.0", "colnum": "647", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "Reverting to the right hon. Gentleman's suggestion that Tuesday's debate on the Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill might in some way form a mixture of Tshekedi Khama and the Transport Commission, might I remind him that we only get one day a year for debating transport?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.647.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.648.2", "colnum": "648", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The Dean of Canterbury.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "In view of the uncontroversial nature of the matter, could the Leader of the House not give further consideration to giving time to the Motion by six hon. Members opposite for the dismissal of the Archbishop of Canterbury?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.648.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.706.3", "colnum": "706", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Birch", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Birch", "preceding_text": " would turn the terms of trade in our favour, as, of course, it would. To say devaluation is making no difference is plainly wrong and plainly dishonest—just as dishonest as was the devaluation broadcast, and I believe that the dishonesty of that broadcast is one of the reasons why we got into such a mess last year, because in it we were told that as a result of devaluation prices would not go up—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.706.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.709.1", "colnum": "709", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Douglas Jay)", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman is carrying his misrepresentations ridiculously far. All the broadcast said was that the rise would be limited during a limited period, to the end of 1949. That was all that was mentioned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.709.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.728.3", "colnum": "728", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Braithwaite", "cue_text": "HON.MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Braithwaite", "preceding_text": "gs that we have to do to put this country right. Whether it is done under nationalisation or under some other method, it has to be done for the future security of Great Britain, and the sooner the House faces up to it the better it will be. If we have not got the right Coal Board let us get the right one and do the job. I see very little progress made in this industry since the Coal Board started.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.728.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.730.1", "colnum": "730", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He never said it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Wilson", "preceding_text": "n broader grounds it is necessary to give way to American demands. I do not share the view, and I know that they do not share the view, expressed by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Woodford (Mr. Churchill) when he said that we must do what the Americans want at all costs. None of us take that view on this side of the House and I suspect that a lot of hon. Gentlemen opposite do not take it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.730.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.738.3", "colnum": "738", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "heartening, at any rate, to this side of the House, of the redistribution of income between the richer and poorer classes in this country, as the result of the Budgets of successive Labour Chancellors, and, particularly, my right hon. Friend the present Minister of Local Government and Planning. The Chancellor showed to what extent the gap has been narrowed between the very rich and the very poor.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.738.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.738.3", "colnum": "738", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": "ed in 1948. I know it is no good asking for figures for a later date—they probably do not exist—but I think that if they did exist for 1951 they would show that the process to which he referred has been partially, at least, put into reverse during the past few months. I think they would confirm the experience of all of us that since the Budget the rich have got richer and the poor have got poorer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.738.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.741.7", "colnum": "741", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is the name of it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilson", "preceding_text": " Friend said quite frankly, is mainly psychological. It does much to get rid of the provocation of dividend increases at a time when the real value of wage packets is falling, but it does little or nothing of itself to bring down the cost of living, or even to stop it from rising. However, it is the first step along lines indicated in a recently published pamphlet which hon. Members may have seen.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.741.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.766.1", "colnum": "766", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "preceding_text": "except in the price of bread, and nobody is entitled to come to any other conclusion. In any event, I would say to the hon. Gentleman that we on this side of the House thought his remarks in dreadful taste and the kind of thing for which there is really no excuse. It was dragged in as a complete irrelevancy and was the kind of thing which we in this House do not like. Having cleared my conscience—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.766.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-26", "file": "debates1951-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "d8f3d84aa98b57d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.767.1", "colnum": "767", "heading": "FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "preceding_text": " But let there be no mistake about it, we are conscious of the reactions of very large numbers of people to the kind of things that have been going on. After all, it has always been said by us—and I said it myself several times in the debate on the Finance Bill—that it was the secondary consequences of increases in dividends that caused the trouble. In truth, it inhibits our cooperative instincts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-26a.767.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-27", "file": "debates1951-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "76576dd2ae480010", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-27a.826.6", "colnum": "826", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRICE CONTROL AND OTHER ORDERS (INDEMNITY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "oing even though it may seem to hon. Members not to go much beyond a formality. I do not put the argument higher than that. 11.45 a.m. There is a second argument of perhaps greater practical value. It is this. Hon. Members who have undergone the effort of trying to trace what the law of this country is, as enacted by statutory instruments, know what an appalling wild-goose chase that sometimes is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-27a.826.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-27", "file": "debates1951-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "76576dd2ae480010", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-27a.892.1", "colnum": "892", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PRICES AND PROFITS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Tenpence.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "hat we are not considering prices alone. What we are concerned about is the standard of life of the people. We use prices in that connotation. I have no doubt that my hon. Friend the Member for Nottingham, South (Mr. Norman Smith), who has a better knowledge of history than I have, could tell us what the price of a cow was in Nottingham market in about the 11th century. It may have been about 11d.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-27a.892.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.937.2", "colnum": "937", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "i will not state the amount.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.937.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.937.2", "colnum": "937", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "i will not state the amount. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"] I think it would be undesirable to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.937.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.956.1", "colnum": "956", "heading": "ARMED FORCES (RETIRED PAY AND PENSIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Head", "preceding_text": "may I express to the Minister of Defence satisfaction with the statement he has just made and the hope that it will stimulate Regular recruiting? May I also say that that satisfaction is stimulated by the fact that almost every suggestion incorporated in his statement was made in speeches made by hon. Gentlemen on this side?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.956.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.959.9", "colnum": "959", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Herbert Morrison)", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Herbert Morrison)", "preceding_text": "table to Jew and Arab alike, and have brought peace and prosperity to the Holy Land. Unfortunately, we were not able to carry out this task. The House will be aware of the circumstances in which we felt compelled to abandon it. There comes a point when the man at the wheel cannot, in the interests of his own and his passengers' safety, allow himself to be further distracted by back-street drivers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.959.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.961.1", "colnum": "961", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "t set up a Development Board with a British secretary-general to ensure the coordinated planning and execution of all aspects of the country's economic development. This Board has just produced a five-year development plan. The entire oil royalties will be allocated to the Board to meet the costs of the projects. Work on the Tigris and Euphrates projects is in hand. In 1946, the Syrian Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.961.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.978.1", "colnum": "978", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And Turkey.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "ich we stand this afternoon. The position is not necessarily irretrievable in its long-term aspects, but we certainly cannot restore it by ourselves alone. It can only be retrieved at a lower level in any case than before the Second World War, and it can only be retrieved, in my opinion, by the joint co-operative action of Britain and the United States, and, in the Mediterranean sphere, of France.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.978.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.978.1", "colnum": "978", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "at was a mere coincidence, a pure accident, I am not making any serious point out of it—almost on that day another agreement for heavy payments was announced to the House. What form do these payments take? There is a destroyer of the Hunt class. H.M.S. \"Cottesmore\" was her name. She, I understand, has been traded to the Egyptian Government, and her name has now been changed to the Ibrahim el Awal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.978.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.989.3", "colnum": "989", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Neither have you.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "h it. Let me press this point. Here is the new Foreign Secretary, who shows to all the world that his main thought in life is to be a caucus boss and a bitter party electioneer. It is tragic indeed that at this time his distorted, twisted and malevolent mind should be the one to which our foreign affairs are confided. Now I turn to Persia. The right hon. Gentleman told us nothing new about Persia.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.989.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.989.3", "colnum": "989", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "gest or demand specific military operations. They do not know what are the forces available, nor what course of action the Government are pursuing. It has well been said—I think, by Lord Lansdowne, although I have not been able to verify this—that an Opposition may properly urge restraint upon a Government where military action is concerned, but ought to be very chary in demanding military action.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.989.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.989.3", "colnum": "989", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh &#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Churchill", "preceding_text": "the forces available, nor what course of action the Government are pursuing. It has well been said—I think, by Lord Lansdowne, although I have not been able to verify this—that an Opposition may properly urge restraint upon a Government where military action is concerned, but ought to be very chary in demanding military action. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]That is the course which I have followed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.989.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.995.3", "colnum": "995", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "th arms with the intention that they should defeat Israel, changed its side when the Israelis won the war. I can well appreciate the reasons why the Egyptians feel very bitter against a vast majority of hon. Members in this House who wanted the defeat of Israel when that looked likely and switched round when Israel won. It may be necessary to support the winning side but it is not very creditable.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.995.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.995.3", "colnum": "995", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " win, I should be delighted to hear the names. He can number on the fingers of his one hand the members of his own party who backed him when he supported the Israelis at the time when things looked bad for them. The right hon. Gentleman, from his position as Leader of the Opposition, has come out today with a demand for a complete economic blockade of Egypt undertaken unilaterally by this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.995.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.998.1", "colnum": "998", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " the oil installations protected by military force. They say, \"Show the flag, use force, because that is the only language the lesser breeds understand.\" I suggest it was tried in Egypt and in Palestine. In Palestine, 100,000 British troops were employed for a tough policy to break Jewish nationalism, with the incitement of hon. Gentlemen opposite who cheered when every Jewish leader was arrested.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.998.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1032.1", "colnum": "1032", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fitzroy Maclean", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fitzroy Maclean", "preceding_text": "the Government to be quite as offhand with the Americans as they had hoped to be, for the simple reason that they very soon found out that the only way in which they could hope to finance their famous Socialist experiment was with good capitalist dollars from the United States. In other words, their Socialist foreign policy was no good. And so what did the Government do? They sacked Mr. Zilliacus.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1032.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1037.1", "colnum": "1037", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maclean", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. Member does not blame us for that? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maclean", "preceding_text": "t it has been left much too late. Everywhere in the Middle East what were once positions of strength are rapidly being undermined and becoming positions of weakness. The Egyptians are seeking to drive us out of Egypt. In Jordan the assassination of King Abdullah has not only deprived us of a very good and loyal friend but has removed one of the most potent factors for stability in the Middle East.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1037.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1040.0", "colnum": "1040", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maclean", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maclean", "preceding_text": " then under existing circumstances, in the straits we are in, any course is bound to involve certain dangers. And the most dangerous course of all is to let things drift—do nothing at all—as the Government have done up to the present. It is the old story of the Sibylline Books: the longer you wait the higher the price you pay. If the Government had listened to our warnings over the past six years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1040.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1063.1", "colnum": "1063", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; FOREIGN AFFAIRS (MIDDLE EAST)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Attlee)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They were true.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Attlee)", "preceding_text": " had the pleasure next day of reading an account of the speech which the right hon. Gentleman delivered in his own constituency the same day. The right hon. Gentleman seemed to suggest that my right hon. Friend's remarks were unworthy of a Foreign Secretary. I must say that the remarks of the Leader of the Opposition were hardly those one would have expected from a distinguished ex-Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1063.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-30", "file": "debates1951-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "91bc85285b1ec282", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1122.2", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; RIVERS (PREVENTION OF POLLUTION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lionel Heald", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lionel Heald", "preceding_text": "elieve they will be very valuable. It may be, as we now find ourselves in agreement with each other and with the Minister of Local Government and Planning, that this has been found to be the only way. Many of us will remember seeing a famous play with Sir John Martin-Harvey called \"The Only Way\", and his great line in that play was: \"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done.'", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-30a.1122.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1154.5", "colnum": "1154", "heading": "SCHEDULE (C)—NEW STANDING ORDERS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The Question is, \"That the Motion be approved.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1154.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1161.0", "colnum": "1161", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "preceding_text": "I consider the reply of my right hon. Friend shows appalling ignorance of the situation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1161.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1161.0", "colnum": "1161", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "preceding_text": "I consider the reply of my right hon. Friend shows appalling ignorance of the situation. [HON. MEMBERS \"Order.\"] For example, in Monmouthshire, where there are 72 midwives —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1161.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1189.2", "colnum": "1189", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Keenan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Keenan", "preceding_text": "Would the Opposition return the buses to the Liverpool Corporation?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1189.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1189.3", "colnum": "1189", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "th its policy presently. There is a good deal of pruning to be done there. I see from the Report that the Commission have 38 persons engaged on public relations and only 13 engaged on research. That seems a rather remarkable contrast. If the Commission had a rather better story to tell, they might require fewer people that try to tell it. However, I will leave them for the present and I will turn—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1189.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1262.3", "colnum": "1262", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Proctor", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nobody.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Proctor", "preceding_text": "of British Railways with the French railway tracks, and, when the hon. Gentleman speaks of speed, let him balance that against the safety of British Railways as against any other railways in the world. Let us consider, when we arrive half an hour late, that it is better to arrive safely than to have an accident. The question was posed to us as to who is better off as the result of nationalisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1262.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1268.2", "colnum": "1268", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader A. E. Cooper", "preceding_text": "e nationalisation of transport was one of the main planks of the Socialist Party programme in 1945. Then, they had no inhibitions about it. They were quite sure it was in the country's interest. They were quite sure they could make a success of it. We have, unfortunately, had a spate of nationalisation Acts covering a whole range of industries, and every one has been a complete and abject failure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1268.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1274.1", "colnum": "1274", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Keenan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Keenan", "preceding_text": "o be extended in the way we did. Hon. Members opposite talk about the failure of road haulage. What has happened? We may as well face up to the facts of the situation. What has happened is that immediately nationalisation took place private enterprise firms, which formerly handled the traffic, were given C licences. Can anyone explain how otherwise the number of C licences has practically doubled?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1274.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1280.1", "colnum": "1280", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "preceding_text": "ich the Government are going? If it is the right direction, cannot we send the Transport Commission in that direction? The hon. Member for Aberdeenshire, East (Mr. Boothby), said that he did not believe in de-nationalisation but did believe in de-centralisation. I believe it is only a matter of time before the Conservative Party comes round to the view that we ought to de-nationalise the railways.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1280.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1333.1", "colnum": "1333", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"In Northern Ireland.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "ed what we think about it? The other day the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Saffron Walden (Mr. R. A. Butler) gave us a lecture about the freedom of the individual, saying that his party could never in any circumstances tolerate the banishment of anybody. They have been sitting there for years and years listening to me telling them about the same kind of thing happening in the United Kingdom.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1333.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1333.1", "colnum": "1333", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "kind of thing happening in the United Kingdom. [An HON. MEMBER: \"In Northern Ireland.\"] Exactly. For over 30 years the right hon. Gentleman's party have practised the exclusion order. For example, one of the best known trade unionists was kept from his own home, and yet they get up here and say that is just the very thing that they will not tolerate. But that is not what we are discussing tonight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1333.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1335.1", "colnum": "1335", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations (Mr. Gordon-Walker)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations (Mr. Gordon-Walker)", "preceding_text": " Paget), has pointed out that when Mr. Germond was appointed Tshekedi Khama went out of his way to tell the High Commissioner how glad he was about the appointment, and to say that Mr. Germond was as good a choice as could be found. It may well be, as my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Brigg says, that Tshekedi Khama was generous, but also that Mr. Germond is an impartial and good official.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1335.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1341.3", "colnum": "1341", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Long distance.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "id in this White Paper. May I read it to the right hon. Gentleman, so that he may know? His Majesty's Government must, however, state categorically that the judicial inquiry unanimously advised against the recognition of Seretse &#x2026; It further advised that Tshekedi should not be permitted to return to the Reserve. On that, and that alone, the right hon. Gentleman acted—no kgotla, no anything.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1341.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1343.6", "colnum": "1343", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; TSHEKEDI KHAMA (BANISHMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Order.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Acland", "preceding_text": "That question only arises—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1343.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1361.1", "colnum": "1361", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPAN (DRAFT PEACE TREATY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He knows more about herrings.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman has far too great an understanding to make an interjection like that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1361.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1366.3", "colnum": "1366", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPAN (DRAFT PEACE TREATY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": " no amount of moving about in swivel chairs and no number of graphs with statistics will solve the human problem of the movement of goods from an advancing Japan to a China that needs these textile goods. If the British Government agrees to the maintenance of this embargo on the movement of goods into China this problem will not be solved. It will not be solved by speeches in the House of Commons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1366.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1375.1", "colnum": "1375", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPAN (DRAFT PEACE TREATY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " of Franco bilaterally is dictation of the form European defence will take in the American defence plan. It is that form of dictatorship which ruins a partnership, and which all good Americans want to avoid. Where we are sacrificing our natural honour as a trading nation to placate American forces, we should stand up and end it. I say to the Leader of the House, \"Let him not be too angry with us.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1375.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1379.1", "colnum": "1379", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPAN (DRAFT PEACE TREATY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the hon. Gentleman's own Front Bench?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boothby", "preceding_text": "aving been so thoughtfully provided by hon. Members opposite, is very great. I do not want to do that, but I do not think the speech of the hon. Member for Coventry, East (Mr. Crossman), should pass, even at this hour of the night, entirely unnoticed by the Opposition. It was certainly the fiercest and most sustained attack on a Government from one of their own nominal supporters I have ever heard", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1379.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1380.5", "colnum": "1380", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPAN (DRAFT PEACE TREATY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Logan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Eight.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Logan", "preceding_text": "e supreme sacrifice in the war against the Japanese. I do not want to condemn or hurt the Government—especially as I do not know that hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite could do any better in this matter. I feel that what is left of them belong to an obsolete age. They have not even the stamina to stop here when questions of our country's trade are being discussed. There are only nine of them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1380.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1387.1", "colnum": "1387", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HERRING INDUSTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Kinghorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Kinghorn", "preceding_text": "s who have been tearing their hair out over tankers for Poland and the Japanese Peace Treaty. I have in my division a most efficient rayon industry which has developed since the war, and I would have liked to intervene in that debate on the question of likely Japanese competition in the next few years. But I regard this as a much more valuable topic on which we should be spending our time tonight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1387.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1387.1", "colnum": "1387", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HERRING INDUSTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Kinghorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Kinghorn", "preceding_text": "e it will go forth from the House tonight that these people, who are the only people who know their particular business, really will be consulted through the advisory councils when they are set up. I do not hesitate to speak up for England in these matters. We are discussing now an industry which has been far too long controlled from the smaller end of that industry in another country—in Scotland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1387.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-07-31", "file": "debates1951-07-31a.xml", "sha256": "8e7b41b441a3e0db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1390.4", "colnum": "1390", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HERRING INDUSTRY SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Kinghorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Kinghorn", "preceding_text": " is involved. Many curers and processors will say that the herrings now being caught off the East Coast of England and Scotland are nothing like as good for making kippers as those we shall be getting in October off Yarmouth. This is the only occasion when I can stand up for the English fishing interests and say that it is about time they were consulted more often and more easily than in the past.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-07-31a.1390.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1421.2", "colnum": "1421", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL GARDENS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Noble", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Noble", "preceding_text": "Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will allow me to give the other view.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1421.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1421.2", "colnum": "1421", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; FESTIVAL GARDENS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Commander Noble", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Noble", "preceding_text": "Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will allow me to give the other view. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the statement he has just made means that originally the use of Battersea Park was obtained under false pretences? He will not deny that the present Foreign Secretary categorically said in this House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1421.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1456.1", "colnum": "1456", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BROADCASTING (VERY HIGH FREQUENCY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Profumo", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Profumo", "preceding_text": "In view of the muddled thinking—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1456.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1459.3", "colnum": "1459", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; DIVIDEND LIMITATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Arbuthnot", "preceding_text": "ange into complete disorder, and that's good fun, anyhow, what interpretation does the Prime Minister put upon it other than that the Government regard it as good fun deliberately to throw the Stock Exchange into complete disorder? Does not the Prime Minister think that this Government cynicism betrays a careless disregard for the thousands of small investors who have been so badly affected by it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1459.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1459.5", "colnum": "1459", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; DIVIDEND LIMITATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. A. Butler", "preceding_text": "Will the Prime Minister take this opportunity of publicly dissociating himself from the observations made by his colleague?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1459.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1461.0", "colnum": "1461", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; DIVIDEND LIMITATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Butler", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Butler", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that there are many people of modest means—pensioners, widows, and others—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1461.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1465.7", "colnum": "1465", "heading": "SLAUGHTERHOUSES (GOVERNMENT POLICY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Absence of meat.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webb", "preceding_text": "It is true that quite a number of modern slaughterhouses are not being used because of the absence of labour. That is one of the difficulties—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1465.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1487.1", "colnum": "1487", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ROYAL AIR FORCE (EQUIPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. Henderson", "preceding_text": "the Universal Freighter, has a prototype flying and trials are now being carried out. We are not prepared to place an order until we know the results of those trials. The hon. Gentleman may have his joke about \"under active consideration,\" but I think this is the right policy for the Air Council to follow. We must, therefore, wait until the trials are nearer completion than they are at the moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1487.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1531.1", "colnum": "1531", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Touchy.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "urt. That is all I am saying. One final point with regard to this question of Privilege in general. There was an article in \"The Times\" today deploring frivolous complaints of Privilege. With that article I cordially agree. I believe that this House has been bothered by a number of quite frivolous complaints of Privilege and that hon. Members should be very careful indeed not to be too particular.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1531.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1538.4", "colnum": "1538", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "I should not have taken part in the debate but for the state of confusion in which the Home Secretary was on the subject of who issues a summons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1538.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1538.4", "colnum": "1538", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "had been cleared for a Royal procession. I have no complaint at all. I just said where I wanted to go and the barrier was raised, and I drove in great state down Whitehall. The taxi man was much impressed. But let us take the serious point which the Committee did not face. We declare that privileges are not personal to us. They are the privileges of our constituents; that is the fundamental thing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1538.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1539.1", "colnum": "1539", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No; laughed at you.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "On this occasion, as far as I could make it out, the bulk of hon. Members laughed with me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1539.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1539.1", "colnum": "1539", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; ACCESS TO HOUSE (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "es might arise, when an hon. Member is making use of the privilege which this House has conferred upon him, in which he is obstructed. The question is this: in which order do the two crimes occur? Because if the policeman obstructs me, he has committed the first crime; and if. later, I exercise my rights against him and he charges me with a crime, we have the problem of which crime occurred first.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1539.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1545.3", "colnum": "1545", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "I say that it is a fact, whether we like to recognise it or not—I will put the matter in a different form, a more simple form—that by general agreement in the House and if representations have been made through the usual channels, discussion is frequently allowed on resolutions, Amendments or Bills which is perhaps not strictly within the Rules of Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1545.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1545.6", "colnum": "1545", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "That is not the case—but if the hon. Gentleman wants to pursue the matter which, as I say is non-controversial—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1545.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1546.0", "colnum": "1546", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker (Colonel Sir Charles MacAndrew)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker (Colonel Sir Charles MacAndrew)", "preceding_text": "I listened to the noble Lord, and since I was appointed Deputy-Chairman nothing of that character has come to my notice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1546.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1546.1", "colnum": "1546", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "I am very much obliged to the hon. Gentleman below the Gangway who just said: \"The noble Lord is telling the truth.\" The real point is—I am sure that both sides of the House will wish to approach this matter with the utmost frankness, and I hope to have some influence on the minds of those who may have had a different view previous to the discussion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1546.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1550.2", "colnum": "1550", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "intended as a warning or to enhance the dignity of the Chair? I should have thought that the failure in 1938 to take any action against the \"Daily Worker\" did not impress either the public or that paper. Now I shall say something which will cause universal dissent on all sides I entirely agree with the attitude of many newspapers and individuals outside this House in regard to Privilege questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1550.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1550.2", "colnum": "1550", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": "blic or that paper. Now I shall say something which will cause universal dissent on all sides I entirely agree with the attitude of many newspapers and individuals outside this House in regard to Privilege questions. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I am astonished, delighted and heartened beyond belief to get those cheers and I am most grateful. I think the House is getting far too Privilege minded—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1550.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1550.2", "colnum": "1550", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Earl Winterton", "preceding_text": " a Privilege. I suggest that some of these cases of Privilege are equally as ridiculous as the idea of wearing a hat. If I were to get on to the subject of procedure, Sir, you would properly call me up. However, I must just call attention to the comic opera arrangement by which one can only raise a point of order during a Division by putting on a hat. Anything more childish can hardly be imagined.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1550.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1562.1", "colnum": "1562", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Logan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Logan", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. Is it quite right for the noble Lord to get up because he finds fault.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1562.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1574.1", "colnum": "1574", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "Is the House not ready to come to a decision?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1574.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-08-01", "file": "debates1951-08-01a.xml", "sha256": "920b1c046339dc6b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1574.4", "colnum": "1574", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; LADY MELLOR (COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "y I cannot? At the moment the House is engaged in a kind of judicial process. We are being asked to approve a report of the Committee of Privileges finding that a certain person outside has been guilty of a breach of Privilege. Those of us who, having listened to the whole debate so far, are not convinced that any breach of Privilege has been committed, are bound to say so because we are concerned", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-08-01a.1574.4"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-10-04", "file": "debates1951-10-04a.xml", "sha256": "74dff4b24bb1a67c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-04a.1726.0", "colnum": "1726", "heading": "THE KING'S ILLNESS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Attlee)", "preceding_text": "e Royal family and by the affection of all his people. Devotion to the Throne is not a matter of some mere constitutional necessity; it springs from a genuine and deep affection for the person of His Majesty. I know that everyone in this House feels deep sympathy with the Queen and the Royal Family, and we share with them the earnest hope that His Majesty may be restored to full health and vigour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-04a.1725.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-10-31", "file": "debates1951-10-31a.xml", "sha256": "7ead7025bacf6253", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.8.0", "colnum": "8", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. P. Viant", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. P. Viant", "preceding_text": "aker. The position has been especially difficult in recent months owing to the indisposition of Mr. Speaker Clifton Brown, which has in many ways put an additional strain upon the Chairman and his Deputy, who were both most loyal to the former Speaker. I would venture to stress the independence and impartiality of the right hon. and gallant Gentleman, which has never been in doubt, or in question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.8.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-10-31", "file": "debates1951-10-31a.xml", "sha256": "7ead7025bacf6253", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0", "colnum": "12", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "preceding_text": "ver you select. Reciprocating your courtesy in the late Parliament, we should be very glad to offer the Deputy-Chairman of Committees to your party. This might also be a matter for discussion, and it would perhaps be effective upon an agreement reached upon the Speakership. Anthony Eden, as Leader of the House, would be very glad to see you on Monday or Tuesday some time if you would like a talk.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-10-31", "file": "debates1951-10-31a.xml", "sha256": "7ead7025bacf6253", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0", "colnum": "12", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "preceding_text": "so present the right hon. Member for Lewisham, South (Mr. H. Morrison) and the right hon. Member for Blaydon (Mr. Whiteley), the Opposition Chief Whip. I nearly called him the Patronage Secretary; I am sorry how these things stick in one's mind. The present Leader of the Opposition and his friends expressed a preference for the right hon. Member for Cirencester and Tewkesbury (Mr. W. S. Morrison)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-10-31", "file": "debates1951-10-31a.xml", "sha256": "7ead7025bacf6253", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0", "colnum": "12", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "preceding_text": " my right hon. Friend the Member for Cirencester and Tewkesbury, nor could they accept the offer of the Deputy-Chairmanship. Later, the late Patronage Secretary rang again and said that if the name of the hon. and gallant Member for Bute and North Ayrshire (Sir C. MacAndrew) were agreed to, they would give their support, and also might accept the post of Deputy-Chairman; but all this was too late.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-10-31", "file": "debates1951-10-31a.xml", "sha256": "7ead7025bacf6253", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0", "colnum": "12", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What proposal?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "preceding_text": "MacAndrew) were agreed to, they would give their support, and also might accept the post of Deputy-Chairman; but all this was too late. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"] Too late so far as I was concerned, because I had already made my proposal—following the discussions which I have recorded and which I do not think are disputed in any case—to my right hon. Friend the Member for Cirencester and Tewkesbury—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-10-31", "file": "debates1951-10-31a.xml", "sha256": "7ead7025bacf6253", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0", "colnum": "12", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What offer?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "preceding_text": "als who are Members of this House and who are to be chosen for this position of unique dignity are chosen by the House with the eyes of all the Parliaments in the world directed upon them. If their names are to be hawked about, not merely in the informal party discussions but between the leaders of different parties after quite definite indication had been given and a definite offer has been made—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.12.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-10-31", "file": "debates1951-10-31a.xml", "sha256": "7ead7025bacf6253", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.16.0", "colnum": "16", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Anthony Eden)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Anthony Eden)", "preceding_text": " only want to say one sentence. I do not think it is unreasonable that I should do so. I do not propose to say it in any harsh terms. I put a point which I do not think any right hon. Gentleman opposite will dispute. I did not understand at any time in our conversations that there was any preference expressed for my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Bute and North Ayrshire (Sir C. MacAndrew).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-10-31a.16.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.61.1", "colnum": "61", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "preceding_text": " for Llanelly (Mr. J. Griffiths). We shall have to see what is produced. The biggest item is the matter of the economic position of this country, and everybody agrees that it is serious. I am a little surprised at the suggestion that the first thing which is needed is a full disclosure.\" My right hon. Friend the former Chancellor of the Exchequer has taken pains to keep the country fully informed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.61.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.61.1", "colnum": "61", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "cue_text": "interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "preceding_text": "vernment are going to use \"to the fullest extent both public and private enterprise.\" So far as I understand it, the situation in the building trade is that the building trade is fully occupied, and what is not generally realised is that it is private enterprise which builds the houses that are ordered by local authorities. But we shall have to wait to see how far performance comes up to promises.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.61.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.65.3", "colnum": "65", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Attlee", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Korea?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Attlee", "preceding_text": "me that the right hon. Gentleman had gone a long way before he thought of the importance of Ministers dealing with economic affairs. There is, too, the position of the Prime Minister himself; he has taken on the positions of Prime Minister and Minister of Defence. I think that is quite right in war-time, but I believe it is generally agreed that in peace-time rather different considerations apply.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.65.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.67.1", "colnum": "67", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Winston Churchill)", "preceding_text": "d, in our opinion, to be indispensible to the general welfare. I trust, however, that British good sense may avoid an era of annual elections, narrow majorities, and fierce, bitter, exciting class and party war. Do not let us forget, in reviewing our position as a community, that during the last six years immense financial help has been loaned or given to us by the United States and our Dominions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.67.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.70.3", "colnum": "70", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "nulment of the nationalisation of the iron and steel industry. The restoration of the university representation was one definite issue at both the General Elections. On a strict interpretation of our mandate we should be entitled to make a change in university representation operative immediately, for that was the intention most clearly expressed; but, on reaching the moment of decision. I and my—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.70.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.70.3", "colnum": "70", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ity Members with so docile and trustworthy a band as those have proved to be. We therefore decided that it was better that any alteration of the franchise should follow the normal course of franchise Measures and be operative only at the Dissolution. I do not intend to repeat today the familiar arguments about the university seats. We have always felt that their abolition was harmful to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.70.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.71.1", "colnum": "71", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "e usual arrangements for recall in case of emergency. This period will give Ministers the opportunity which we need of acquainting ourselves with every detail of the administration, and of shaping with knowledge and study the many necessary measures which must be taken to secure our livelihood as a community and our safety as a nation. When we re-assemble after Christmas we shall be able to speak—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.71.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.71.1", "colnum": "71", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "and problems, which we have not been able to do in the 10 busy days since we took office. The King's Speech in no way limits the legislation which may be brought before Parliament if the public interest so requires. I am sure that it would not be wise for us to commit ourselves to complicated constructive proposals until we have had full and reasonable opportunity for studying the whole situation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.71.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.76.1", "colnum": "76", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "w across the winter Atlantic. In spite of this difficulty, the Government will do all they can to get more coal from abroad. It will not be possible in the time available to bring in enough for us to guarantee that there will not be hardship before the winter ends. We have had to reduce the meat ration to 1s. 5d. worth a week. Our predecessors had already given notice that this would be necessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.76.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.80.1", "colnum": "80", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. J. Irvine", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. J. Irvine", "preceding_text": "ese suspicions exist, but they do exist in the minds of the Opposition. They are well founded, well established and historical, and we believe that if there was not an immensely strong Labour Party and Opposition a Conservative Government would in this economic situation have resort without hesitation to the most drastic deflationary measures against wage, pensions and benefit levels and the rest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.80.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.87.1", "colnum": "87", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Browne", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Browne", "preceding_text": "The only united body of opinion in the country today is the Conservative Party, who represent all people in the country who know that Socialism has failed. For the rest, the only effective anti-Conservative opposition is that section of the Labour Party, extreme Socialists on the Left wine, who have now joined, and who have, been joined by, the Communist Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.87.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.88.1", "colnum": "88", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Browne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Browne", "preceding_text": " This is a somewhat localised problem but it is very serious, and with 100,000 on the waiting lists in Glasgow, there should be no vacant houses. There are people living perhaps 11 in two rooms, while next door, there is a three-roomed house for sale and not to let. There should be no empty house and people should not be forced to buy what is virtually valueless property in order to secure houses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.88.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.97.1", "colnum": "97", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Professor Savory", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Professor Savory", "preceding_text": " might be allowed to refer to a statement made by the Leader of the Opposition. I apologise for having interrupted him, but when he repeated the same statement again, I felt obliged to point out that when one is adding together the number of voters, one must take into consideration the four unopposed seats. When a candidate is returned unopposed, one is entitled to count the whole of the electors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.97.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.104.0", "colnum": "104", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Lipton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"44 No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Lipton", "preceding_text": "ovision of more houses for sale, and I will deal for a moment or two with that aspect of the housing problem. Some hon. Members will recall that during the election campaign a group of builders, no doubt prompted by the Conservative Central Office, issued a statement to the effect that the provision of 300,000 houses a year was easily within the competence of the building industry of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.104.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.105.1", "colnum": "105", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ian Horobin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ian Horobin", "preceding_text": "hich my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer will have to consider. It is, of course, the future of the Bank rate. I make this plea to my right hon. Friend. First, there is nothing which will convince people both at home and abroad that we have decided to cut the cackle and get down to business like an increase in the Bank rate and making it effective. It is the old and tried machine—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.105.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.110.1", "colnum": "110", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Horobin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Horobin", "preceding_text": " but of sale for dollars. If it be right to have a fifty-fifty participation in Persia or in Middle East oil, if it be right for America to build Fawley, I do not see why it should not be a good thing to marry their desire and our desire for free enterprise, for instance, in the electricity industry to a participation in dollars which will involve them building the power stations which we require.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.110.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.118.3", "colnum": "118", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Another promise.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William A. Steward", "preceding_text": "When the hon. and learned Gentleman sits down, somebody will.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.118.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.119.1", "colnum": "119", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Warmongers.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "until the Treasury handed to them this awful balance sheet, and now they suddenly see what is the position. That seems to be their excuse. I do not really think that it is quite like that. I would suggest to hon. Gentlemen opposite that, if they searched their consciences, they might find that they had always won elections on a scare which they created. They started the scare a bit late last time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.119.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.124.1", "colnum": "124", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gerald Nabarro", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gerald Nabarro", "preceding_text": "sts agree that in the months between December, 1951,and April,1952 the incidence of power cuts will probably be graver and longer than we have ever experienced before. The hon. Member for Oldham, East (Mr. Horobin) mentioned that perhaps our power stations could be developed by American enterprise and capital. I will not comment upon his own private views of the particular means of financing them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.124.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.124.1", "colnum": "124", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gerald Nabarro", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gerald Nabarro", "preceding_text": " is being used in other unessential directions. It is impossible for industrial productivity to rise in Britain if there is the atmosphere of dislocation which must be caused by these perpetual and sustained power cuts. The new Government taking office must surely give a completely overriding priority to the British Electricity Authority in securing all the plant it requires to build power houses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.124.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.135.3", "colnum": "135", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "preceding_text": "steel products from, this industry. If we are to be told that because there are large numbers of people who voted this way or that in one constituency or another, that that is an indication that they wanted or did not want steel nationalisation, I wish to make the point at the very beginning that that is a quite fallacious argument. As I have said, the issue was never really made an important one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.135.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.140.1", "colnum": "140", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Roberts", "preceding_text": "I did not say \"out of political control\"; I said, \"out of the political arena.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.140.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.141.1", "colnum": "141", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Thomas", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Sheffield, Heeley (Mr. P. Roberts) always manages to get some heat into his speeches, although, perhaps not as much on this occasion as when he wanted an atom bomb to be dropped on the Chinese people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.141.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.141.2", "colnum": "141", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. P. Roberts", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "I wish to see the atom bomb abolished as much as any other hon. Member does.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.141.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.142.1", "colnum": "142", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is much the same thing.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "I do not blame him. If there is no mention in the Gracious Speech of atom bombs, there is a mention of the Principality of Wales—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.142.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-06", "file": "debates1951-11-06a.xml", "sha256": "e0842dfaada976e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.143.1", "colnum": "143", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "nding the boundaries far and wide and that the grants for students —grants which have opened doors locked to the children of working people right through the centuries—shall be maintained. That is one of the things we cannot afford to do without, whatever crises—manufactured or otherwise—there may be in this country. The National Union of Teachers is also concerned about the question of equal pay—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-06a.143.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.172.6", "colnum": "172", "heading": "RETIREMENT OF MR. SPEAKER CLIFTON BROWN", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": "Arising out of the letter which you have just read to us, Mr. Speaker, I beg to give notice of our intention to move the customary Motion at an early date.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.172.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.173.1", "colnum": "173", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that it would be very helpful to hon. Members to know when they can start their Christmas holidays.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.173.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.173.1", "colnum": "173", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that it would be very helpful to hon. Members to know when they can start their Christmas holidays. [ Interruption .] Well, it is the same for everybody. My right hon. Friend said yesterday that he expected the House would probably rise early in December,", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.173.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.173.1", "colnum": "173", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that it would be very helpful to hon. Members to know when they can start their Christmas holidays. [ Interruption .] Well, it is the same for everybody. My right hon. Friend said yesterday that he expected the House would probably rise early in December, [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] My right hon. Friend explained it all yesterday.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.173.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.174.2", "colnum": "174", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "le, but that can be—and I hope will be—subject to consultation. I shall be very happy and ready to place myself at the disposal of anyone who wishes to consult me on the subject. I hope, therefore, that the House will think that this is a reasonable way of dealing with this matter. In fact, it is exactly the same sort of procedure as was carried out in 1950 after the General Election in that year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.174.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.175.1", "colnum": "175", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "preceding_text": " As a rule, there are two reasons for this Motion. The one which has some validity is the fact that at the assembling of a new Parliament time is needed for Members to consider their Private Bills and to make all the usual arrangements for support. The other reason is, generally, that there is urgent Government business. The absence of of precedent today is that there is no urgent public business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.175.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.176.3", "colnum": "176", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"After Christmas.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "d on both sides. They do not want a full programme. Let us look at the situation with which we are confronted. Within the first two days of this Parliament we have three blows struck at us. The first is that we are soon to be sent away for two months the second is that when we are here we are to be asked to sit in secret; and the third that we are to have no Private Members' time before Christmas.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.176.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.179.5", "colnum": "179", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It got you nowhere.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "I am talking about Private Members' business; not about whether there should or should not be any Private Members' business. The hon. Member has never spoken on a Private Member's Bill. He has never spoken on a Private Member's Motion. He does not even know what they look like. I suppose that I have taken part in more of those debates than any hon. or right hon. Member of this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.179.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.179.5", "colnum": "179", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "any Private Members' business. The hon. Member has never spoken on a Private Member's Bill. He has never spoken on a Private Member's Motion. He does not even know what they look like. I suppose that I have taken part in more of those debates than any hon. or right hon. Member of this House. [An HON. MEMBER: \"It got you nowhere.\"] The Government have decided, and I think on balance they are right—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.179.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.179.5", "colnum": "179", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "ge of having me as a Member there was a Select Committee on Procedure which came to a decision with which I do not agree. It was that Private Members' business should come up on Fridays. That is a great mistake. There is great advantage in some Private Members' business being taken in mid-week. I hope therefore that when we resume Private Members' business in February, which is the customary time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.179.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.179.5", "colnum": "179", "heading": "GOVERNMENT BUSINESS (PRECEDENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "usiness being taken in mid-week. I hope therefore that when we resume Private Members' business in February, which is the customary time—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"] Yes, it is the customary time, and I have been in this place on and off since 1924. It used to be the custom to start Private Members' time on the first Tuesday in February and have it on Tuesday evening, Wednesday evening and Friday—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.179.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.191.6", "colnum": "191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. R. A. Butler)", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. R. A. Butler)", "preceding_text": "manufactures, such as fon- dant and sugar-fat mixtures, canned fruit and vegetables, and fresh fruit and nuts. The total saving from all the cuts in private imports will be about £130 million. To prevent forestalling, these measures must be taken at once. Particulars of the items affected will be announced tonight by the Board of Trade. This is an action which the Government are very loth to take.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.191.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.191.6", "colnum": "191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. R. A. Butler)", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. R. A. Butler)", "preceding_text": " This is an action which the Government are very loth to take. [ Laughter .] I hope that hon. Members will realise that these decisions have had to be taken in a most serious atmosphere. This decision involves the reimposition of quota restrictions, which in themselves are contrary to our aim to liberalise intra-European trade. It will, in due course, limit the housewife's choice of food supplies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.191.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.191.6", "colnum": "191", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. R. A. Butler)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. R. A. Butler)", "preceding_text": "vel. There will have to be reductions in some rationed foods, and there will also be a reduction in the supply of unrationed foods imported by the Ministry of Food as distinct from the private imports to which I referred earlier. Third, we propose to slow down the further carrying out of the strategic stockpiling programme instituted by the previous Government. Good progress has been made on this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.191.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.209.1", "colnum": "209", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "bly hardship. I was by no means the only Minister who spoke in that vein. My right hon. Friend the former Foreign Secretary, for example, made a speech on, I think, 13th October dealing with this in great detail, but the fact is—and it may well be true of speeches made by hon. and right hon. Gentleman opposite—that for some reason or other the Press gave extremely little prominence to this aspect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.209.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.217.1", "colnum": "217", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": " any American aid that might be available would be shared out in accordance with the decisions of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation itself. An inquiry into all that has been and is still going on. I suggest that it should take into account the deterioration in our position. It is not due to any responsibility of ours. That is to say, the worsening in terms of trade and the Persian situation.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.217.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.219.0", "colnum": "219", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "ay a few words about production, of which the right hon. Gentleman also spoke. During the Election there was a great deal of talk about freeing industry from controls in order to provide more scope for initiative and enterprise. My obvious comment on that is that we had certainly a far better record of production in this post-war period with controls than we had without them in the pre-war period—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.219.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.219.0", "colnum": "219", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And the miners.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": ", but in the previous Parliament, the 1945&#x2013;50 Parliament, a great deal was said about these gentlemen that was grossly untrue and very unfair as well. I suggest it would be a helpful thing if the Minister of Fuel and Power were to say something to the effect that he accepted that nationalisation was necessary. I think it would be a good thing if he were to say a few words of praise to them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.219.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.229.5", "colnum": "229", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gaitskell", "preceding_text": "visers to the Government? Finally, I should like an answer to this question. I cannot delay longer, though I should like to spend much more time on this subject. I want the answer to one simple question. Is the Chancellor of the Exchequer today responsible for coordinating the economic affairs of the Government, or is he not? Could the right hon. Gentleman tell us that? I am sure that, if he does—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.229.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.234.3", "colnum": "234", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "r—that both those in the United States who want those goods have an arms drive that will help us, and that the manufacturers here have the vital raw materials about which now they have very grave doubt. No doubt one of the things that have aroused either derision or worry has been the housing programme. I happen to be one of those sitting on these benches who never liked the 300,000 houses target.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.234.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.234.3", "colnum": "234", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is your programme?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "s, and that the manufacturers here have the vital raw materials about which now they have very grave doubt. No doubt one of the things that have aroused either derision or worry has been the housing programme. I happen to be one of those sitting on these benches who never liked the 300,000 houses target. [ Laughter .] I liked the 200,000 one a jolly sight less. Now hon. Members opposite can laugh.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.234.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.243.3", "colnum": "243", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": "I made no such suggestion. What I meant was and I think it was—apparent to the remainder of the House—that any attempt to interfere with the rearmament programme was immediately dubbed Bevanism, or given some such label, during the election campaign; yet here we have a Conservative Government saying that we are to cut down re-armament by cutting down stockpiling.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.243.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.266.0", "colnum": "266", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I do not wish to be tempted—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.266.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.275.2", "colnum": "275", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "preceding_text": "way. When all is said and done our immediate problems, indeed, our long-term problems, can be solved only by increasing production. That has been the constant cry of right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite over the past six years, and it is also the cry which goes up today. Much has been done in the past six years, but much more still remains to be done. Nationalisation has failed in its objective—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.275.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.275.2", "colnum": "275", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Tell the miners that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "preceding_text": " manifesto the Liberal Party said that they were firmly in favour of co-ownership and to that extent I believe they over-simplified the problem. I believe that co-ownership, co-partner-ship, simple profit sharing, or variation of any one of these may be necessary according to the type of industry. The position of the nationalised industries is something which will have to have great consideration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.275.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.275.2", "colnum": "275", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Squadron Leader Cooper", "preceding_text": "ries is something which will have to have great consideration. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Tell the miners that.\"] Whatever method is adopted a sense of partnership at all levels must be created. The status of the individual worker must be recognised. His conditions of employment must be properly established and he should be given every opportunity to train for a better job and to increase his own efficiency—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.275.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.279.1", "colnum": "279", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "preceding_text": " Japan when the workers of Japan are attempting to build up their trade union. There should be a clause to prevent the copying of designs and to allow regular trade union inspection to take place in Japanese industry. This newly-elected Parliament meets at a very opportune time. It is imperative that the elected people's representatives—and let me emphasise. \"the elected people's representatives\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.279.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.285.1", "colnum": "285", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "preceding_text": " last war. At the General Assembly, where he is now present, he will have his instructions from the Government, but I also appeal to him to use his personal initiative wherever he can, bearing in mind that we on this side of the House represent almost 14 million people in this country and that most of the hon. 'Members returned on this side of the House represent areas where the real work is done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.285.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.285.1", "colnum": "285", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about South Wales?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "preceding_text": "nt almost 14 million people in this country and that most of the hon. 'Members returned on this side of the House represent areas where the real work is done. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] All that is necessary is for hon. Members to make an analysis of the results. They will find. in the main, that it is in the north where the work is done and where the greatest contribution for many years is being made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.285.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.289.0", "colnum": "289", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "preceding_text": "d strengthen the most intimate and precious ties of understanding between ourselves and the rest of the British Commonwealth and Empire.\" I do not know whose fault it was, but one of the most painful features of the last Socialist administration has been this gradual weakening of the links, both economic and spiritual, between ourselves and the other members of the British Empire and Commonwealth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.289.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.292.3", "colnum": "292", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "preceding_text": "an ever before, and it was wisely dropped. Communism would have failed if the believers in Christianity in the West had not been so smug and complacent, but had stood up and fought for what they believed to be right. But we did not, and so allowed this tempting philosophy to sweep across Europe, until it has only now been halted by 'the Atlantic Pact. We must admit that nationalisation has failed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.292.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.292.3", "colnum": "292", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "preceding_text": "hilosophy to sweep across Europe, until it has only now been halted by 'the Atlantic Pact. We must admit that nationalisation has failed. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] I will prove it, and then I will quote a statement made by the right hon. Member for Ipswich (Mr. Stokes), which disclosed the oddest attitude towards economics that I have heard for a long time. Nationalisation has involved higher prices.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.292.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.294.1", "colnum": "294", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not fair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Moore", "preceding_text": "I cannot give way again. Some of the interjections already made have not been over-intelligent—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.294.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.301.0", "colnum": "301", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "Before the hon. Member leaves that point, I feel that he is painting far too gloomy a picture. Surely he is aware that our agricultural policy, over all, has been much more stable during the past six years than ever, and that there has been a 50 per cent. increase in production over all—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.301.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.306.4", "colnum": "306", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Miss Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The ex-Chancellor of the Exchequer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "-I listened with very great interest to the speech made by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer which, if I may say so, was, I thought, addressed to the nation and not to any party, and which I am sure the country will warmly welcome. I also listened with equal interest to the speech made by the late Chancellor of the Exchequer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.306.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.309.1", "colnum": "309", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Miss Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It was.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Ward", "preceding_text": "Not at all. I want to turn to another point which I think is of very great importance. We all knew that the coal situation was deteriorating but, if my memory serves me accurately, I recall the ex-Minister of Fuel and Power announcing that more coal was to be allocated for the use of the domestic consumer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.309.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.317.2", "colnum": "317", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Of course.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": " Election campaign. I see absolutely no connection at all between them. It seems to me that one can characterise the discussion in this way, that in relation to what they have to say about the recent Labour Government during the General Election campaign the attitude of the Tory Party was, \"Let us see what Tommy is doing and tell him that he must not.\" Whatever the Labour Government did was wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.317.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-07", "file": "debates1951-11-07a.xml", "sha256": "54d24386e0106382", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.328.1", "colnum": "328", "heading": "HOUSING, NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "ch is discussing arrangements for the land will deal with the question of sewerage, and if it does not the principal officer will remind them. The hon. Member for Newcastle-upon-Tyne, East, thought that private building licences would not solve the problem and so forth. I may be wrong, but I thought he was angling for something about the general policy which will be adopted by this administration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-07a.328.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.335.6", "colnum": "335", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "the morrow of the General Election. In 1935 it was collective security, and within a month of winning the election on the basis of a pledge to the people of this country to stand by the League of Nations and collective security, they had recognised Mussolini, and the King of Italy as the Emperor of Abyssinia. And now they have won this election, if indeed they did win it—it seems largely in doubt—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.335.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.335.6", "colnum": "335", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "ink about it&#x2026;when I think of the immense combinations and resources which have been neglected or squandered, I cannot believe that a parallel exists in the whole course of history. So far as this country is concerned the responsiblity must rest with those who have the undisputed control of our political affairs.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 5th October, 1938; Vol. 339, c. 366.] That was what he said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.335.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.337.3", "colnum": "337", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "say so—and that is one of the things which nearly everybody on the other side of the House told the electors during the campaign but one of the things which the Chancellor yesterday most conspicuously avoided saying, because he knows, and most of his supporters know, that it is not true. For in 1945 our financial position was far worse than that which the Chancellor of the Exchequer has inherited.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.337.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.337.3", "colnum": "337", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "ited. [ Interruption .] I warn hon. Members opposite not lightly to interrupt or challenge my facts. I have the most unexceptionable witnesses to them, as I had to my statement when I opened my speech this afternoon, and I warn hon. Members opposite, in their own interests. The statement that this country was bankrupt in 1945 is a statement which was made at the time by the present Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.337.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.337.3", "colnum": "337", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He was right.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "t the same event and about the same date—I am paraphrasing now, but I hope it will be accepted that it is a fair paraphrase: the actual words can be found—said that there would be little for the returning soldiers to come home to and that he was afraid of presenting the grim financial facts to the House of Commons after the next Election because it would make him the most unpopular man in England.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.337.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.337.3", "colnum": "337", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"With American dollars.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "not; it is only his supporters who say that. He was perfectly honest and what I am saying is that on his evidence and on that of Lord Woolton, my right hon. Friends were faced in 1945 with a much grimmer and more formidable task than the one which the present Government face and yet, within five years, they had clone what no right hon. Gentleman and no hon. Gentleman opposite had thought possible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.337.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.338.1", "colnum": "338", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Private Enterprise.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "lars to make good the trading gap between the cost of our imports and the price of our exports. The two things cancel out and there is nothing to be said about them. If there is any advantage at all, it is an advantage to the pre-war Government and not an advantage to the post-war Government. Within four years the Labour Government had increased the production of this country by 50 or 60 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.338.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.339.1", "colnum": "339", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "n, willingly or unwillingly, a scale, an agreed scale—an allied, internationally agreed scale—of re-armament for which it is beyond their capacity to pay. It must be the very first time in history that, in order to obtain the assistance of a powerful and wealthy allied country, in problematical or speculative circumstances, a whole continent accepted immediate bankruptcy. Well, what is the remedy?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.339.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.339.1", "colnum": "339", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "e forces of external nature, those very powers which themselves will tear the world to pieces unless mankind learns a little sanity and a little common sense, could in our own day usher in a new age of peace, plenty and prosperity for all mankind. In this country the Labour Government have, since 1945, managed to bring about a peaceful social revolution, a revolution without hatred and bitterness.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.339.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.348.1", "colnum": "348", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "s given to my right hon. Friend yesterday, that he has not that supreme authority as economic co-ordinating Minister over all other economic Ministers, including Lord Woolton and Lord Leathers, which both Sir Stafford Cripps and my right hon. Friend the late Chancellor of the Exchequer exercised? We are not to have any assurance, apparently, that the right hon. Gentleman has that authority either.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.348.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.354.1", "colnum": "354", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": " the House with a minority of votes. On this occasion we have another party also with a small majority in the House and a minority of votes. Even when confronted, as we have been since 1945, with enormous and complicated problems, both of those parties have spent most of their time denouncing the other and, what is worse, in trying to outbid each other and making promises in order to obtain votes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.354.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.356.0", "colnum": "356", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "For the very good reason that my party and I remain absolutely independent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.356.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.356.0", "colnum": "356", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "dly cheered and regarded as a very good supporter of the Government, but the moment I dared independently to criticise the Labour Government I was linked with the Tory Party. That is the position to which the Opposition desire to drive everybody in the country. That is what happened during the General Election. We were able to put up about 100 candidates in 100 constituencies. What does that mean?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.356.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.357.1", "colnum": "357", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "It is all very well to leave it in that general way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.357.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.357.5", "colnum": "357", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "As far as I understand it, the position between both parties is that they are agreed on what should be done, how it shall be done, and when it shall be done, and the only dispute between them is as to which of the two shall do it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.357.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.358.1", "colnum": "358", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "y have more production by merely asking for it, begging for it, and at the same time taking steps to punish the very persons who do produce more. There is a reference in the Gracious Speech about creating a spirit of partnership between management and workers. Does this now mean that the Government are adopting what we in the Liberal Party have long put forward, namely, co-partnership in industry?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.358.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.361.0", "colnum": "361", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "The Corporation, as the right hon. Gentleman knows or should know, deals with a small part of the industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.361.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.361.0", "colnum": "361", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"This week?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "hon. Gentleman knows or should know, deals with a small part of the industry. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"] It does not cover the whole industry and it has not come into full working order and detail. A considerable part of the industry is unaffected and power resides in the Ministry of Supply to supervise the whole matter. That being so, I am asking that the Minister should act now and act quickly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.361.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.366.1", "colnum": "366", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How much?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "preceding_text": "resent low stocks of household coal, if we continued to allow this it would mean that some would get the full quantity and others, I am afraid, would get nothing or very little. Therefore, I am having to make an order which will limit the amount of coal any householder can buy during the next three critical months. Details are being published immediately and the order will come into force at once.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.366.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.376.2", "colnum": "376", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "preceding_text": "I think the House will realise that I have not in any way burked the point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.376.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.377.0", "colnum": "377", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "preceding_text": "leet 20 years ago the mutiny at Invergordon was something which was flashed over the world with peculiar intensity. I am not wishing to draw a close comparison between the two things, but in the economic field, in a slower and perhaps even more important way, the fact that this great coal-producing country has got into the habit of importing coal is having a tremendous effect in the outside world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.376.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.386.3", "colnum": "386", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How much?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "The quantity is extremely relevant. It is altogether proper that a parent should leave to his children, or his ordinary natural heirs, a moderate sum which may be—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.386.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.392.0", "colnum": "392", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The Leader of the Opposition.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": " first time for a long period of years the government of Scotland and the government of Wales occupied the first place in the Gracious Speech from the Throne. I commend that to the Prime Minister, who did not seem to have discovered that, and mentioned that when Scotland asked for bread it had not received even \"the Stone.\" That was, perhaps, stretching the privileges of his position a little far.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.390.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.392.3", "colnum": "392", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": " to a body such as a Royal Commission great, important political decisions. These eventually will have to be taken under the responsibility of the Government themselves. But we go further. We also say that the great economic blocks of activity which have been taken away—to our mind quite wantonly—and centralised here in London should be returned to Scotland where their natural home and habitat is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.392.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.399.1", "colnum": "399", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "In the last foul years the Socialist programmes which were at first satisfactory have been steadily falling.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.399.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.399.3", "colnum": "399", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "The standard of housing must be adequate. I cannot imagine a more bitter mockery to anyone having to use one water closet with some 30 other people than to say that some other family was going to be given two. Slums remain in Glasgow after 15 years of—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.399.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.433.3", "colnum": "433", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": "ever of keeping those wild and distorted promises which they made in the Election. In the past few months, on advertising sites throughout the country there has been displayed a deliberate Tory lie, which the Chancellor was good enough to refute in his speech yesterday. I refer to that Tory lie, placarded on hoardings throughout the country, \"The high cost of living is the high cost of Socialism.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.433.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.447.1", "colnum": "447", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Alport", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Alport", "preceding_text": "Yes, and I am prepared to use the necessary controls.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.447.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.451.1", "colnum": "451", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bernard Braine", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bernard Braine", "preceding_text": "ce—we shall hear him often. I am sure the House was struck, as I was, by the speech of the Chancellor yesterday. His approach to the vast range of problems was, I think, masterly. What I liked so much about that speech was the way in which he told us the worst. He obviously understood the simple truth of what Disraeli said many years ago, that the British people are never so great as in adversity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.451.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.468.1", "colnum": "468", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Colonies (Mr. Oliver Lyttelton)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Colonies (Mr. Oliver Lyttelton)", "preceding_text": " to listen to in 1946 or 1947. Perhaps one of the reasons for this new piano tune is because the official policy of the Labour Party is going to be announced in future by the hon. Member for Aston (Mr. Wyatt) after only a few months in a junior office, for he assured us that the official policy of the Labour Opposition was to nationalise the iron and steel industry if it were denationalised by us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.468.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.470.1", "colnum": "470", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "the doorstep. That is what happened to us. It is useless to talk about how one shall decorate the sitting room when the roof of the house is already beginning to fall around one's ears. It is no good asking why my right hon. Friend did not lay down a number of long-term policies. What he has had to do is to prevent immediate bankruptcy. The sooner hon. Members opposite get hold of that the better.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.470.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.475.3", "colnum": "475", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": " Of course a&#x00BD;per cent. rise in the Bank rate would not by itself deter an industrial company from expanding its plant or buildings because the cost of financing it had become by that much more expensive. I give that to the right hon. Gentleman. But, in fact, it is broadly speaking true to say that no ordinary rise in interest rates by itself would deter the expansion of industrial building.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.475.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.476.3", "colnum": "476", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "ked how they found out what was the right figure—was it 60,000, or 50,000, and for what reason did they say so? There was no answer forthcoming, I suppose because Hitler's astrologer was not available to give them the answer. I was interested to hear the hon. Member for Battersea, North (Mr. Jay), still producing the same sort of argument this afternoon. He says that one has only to ask the banks—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.476.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-08", "file": "debates1951-11-08a.xml", "sha256": "34eb66db47428d46", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.477.1", "colnum": "477", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "oshes to operate next year. The only way that can be ironed out is by the people who want to make plastics and galoshes, and they will be affected by the rate of interest which they are offered, for those projects. Until that happens we shall never get any sense into this system at all. I think it is very wise to start with a small rise in the Bank rate. That does not mean that monetary technique—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-08a.477.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.493.6", "colnum": "493", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Major Lloyd George)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why stop it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Major Lloyd George)", "preceding_text": "s of meat rationing, of the imports or consumption of these particular canned ham and canned meats generally is very nearly equal to 3d. per week per person, which is a very substantial contribution. The recent addition of these foods to our diet is the result of the successful enterprise of private traders, and it is a striking illustration of what can be done by individual energy and enterprise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.493.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.496.1", "colnum": "496", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Under private enterprise we shall have no rations at all.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "far as I am concerned, as soon as we can get out of the mess we are in. I shall do everything I can to encourage these people to go to other parts of the world in order to buy food products. It is particularly unfortunate that we have to deprive ourselves of the benefits of their labours, because, as I shall show, the prospect of obtaining additional supplies of our basic rations is not very rosy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.496.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.497.1", "colnum": "497", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "One really must not read things into my statements that are not there. I never made that statement, and nobody has ever suggested it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.497.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.498.2", "colnum": "498", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheese?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "mports of food will be about £100 million a year. It will fall, of course, on those unrationed foods which, over the last 18 months or so, have proved an increasing and welcome addition to the basic rations. I have already mentioned canned ham and canned meat. These privately imported foods also include various sugar and sugar fat mixtures, canned fruit, canned vegetables and fresh fruit and nuts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.498.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.498.2", "colnum": "498", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Wines and spirits?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "uch of each of these items of privately imported foods we shall be able to afford to allow in. We are not excluding any cheese; or oranges, lemons, or tomatoes; or any of a quite wide variety of other foods. We want to keep as much as we can of those that are most valuable to all classes of the community, and we shall have to exclude primarily those that are the most expensive and least necessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.498.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.514.1", "colnum": "514", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Lady Tweedsmuir", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lady Tweedsmuir", "preceding_text": "as put forward views which at present do not seem to be very practicable. Until we as a nation are assured that, in concert with our Allies, we can ensure the international inspection of armaments, we must continue our re-armament programme, whatever it costs. The Opposition have said that during the General Election Conservative Party candidates did not make plain the seriousness of the position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.514.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.521.1", "colnum": "521", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Miss Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Basic rations?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "As the hon. Lady is aware, many purchases by bulk contract finished, were ended, and then started again, and I would refer once more to the purchase of strawberry pulp from Holland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.521.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.526.0", "colnum": "526", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"In quantity.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "preceding_text": "onymous with the abolition of the open general licence. If we are to have these reduced supplies, it is imperative that price controls of the most rigid character should be restored, both on those commodities directly concerned, such as ham, and others which may be indirectly affected, such as fish—on the apples, too, for the English apples at this moment are getting a monopoly of the home market—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.526.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.526.0", "colnum": "526", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Two and six a pound.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "preceding_text": "of the most rigid character should be restored, both on those commodities directly concerned, such as ham, and others which may be indirectly affected, such as fish—on the apples, too, for the English apples at this moment are getting a monopoly of the home market—[HON. MEMBERS: \"In quantity.\"]—yes, and their prices are now rising very nicely as a result of this open general licence being revoked.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.526.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.535.1", "colnum": "535", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Miss Burton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Burton", "preceding_text": "uying themselves, because then they would soon find out. Secondly, the Federation raised that point because they wished to smooth out the price fluctuations, and I think that every one of us would welcome a change in the system by which a shopper can go into two or three shops within a few yards distance of each other for exactly the same goods of exactly the same quality and pay different prices.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.535.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.544.1", "colnum": "544", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "it. It seems that planning in this case, as in others, was conspicuous by its absence. I rejoice that we now have a Government who have demonstrated not only their comprehension of the situation, but their determination to deal with it in a practical and immediate way. I have every confidence that despite the difficulties and the pain, my right hon. Friends will grasp the steel nettle and bend it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.544.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.561.3", "colnum": "561", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": " or the Prime Minister, or, indeed, any hon. Member opposite, but I am saying that a situation of this kind could strike at the very roots of our civil liberties, because I have no illusions as to how Tory Governments act when they find themselves in difficulty. In both Australia and New Zealand Right Wing Governments have been elected on a basis of a lying propaganda, such as was this Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.561.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.564.0", "colnum": "564", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Give us some evidence.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "r one would change my mind. I shall make my position even more clear. I have done my best to ginger up recruiting for the Territorial Army, but I am not prepared to take similar measures in support of a Home Guard whose administration is left in the hands of a man like the Secretary of State for War, who to my mind does not believe in democracy at all. That is what I say, and that is what I think.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.564.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.564.4", "colnum": "564", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Sir David Robertson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir David Robertson", "preceding_text": "ood comrades. We did not bother about what their politics were. But it may interest hon. Members to know that 30 Conservative Members of Parliament were killed in the recent wars and one Liberal Member of Parliament. Because no Socialist Members of Parliament were killed, we should not attribute to them any lack of gallantry. We know their people have died for their country just as ours have done—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.564.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.571.0", "colnum": "571", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Robertson", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Robertson", "preceding_text": "he ex-Minister of Food, who I am glad to see in his place, and who had so many talks with the fishing industry about controls, said today something which he did not say when he was in office. He told the House that he had had before him when he was in office a machine all ready for re-imposing control. In my view—and I spent 20 very happy years in the fishing industry in jobs at the highest level—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.571.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.574.1", "colnum": "574", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to the noble Lady. She has endorsed what I said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.574.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.574.1", "colnum": "574", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "preceding_text": "h the Conservative manifesto, which she has already produced. I ask her to go through her bag afterwards for that manifesto, if she has not got it here with her, and consult the part about food. I read it very carefully, and I think it is quite clear that the Conservative Party say that when they are returned they will be able to send the right buyers to those parts of the world where the food is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.574.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-09", "file": "debates1951-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "06d0dc9712cec904", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.585.2", "colnum": "585", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; KING'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Throneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, Hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Throneycroft", "preceding_text": "ncreasing competition from the exports both from Germany and Japan. It is quite plainly a very tough proposition to maintain or to expand exports against a background of that character. Hon. Members opposite have asked what we would do about the control side. They said. \"You cannot really get a drive in exports or the priorities which you want unless you use sonic control.\" I think they are right.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-09a.585.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.602.0", "colnum": "602", "heading": "PRIVATE BUSINESS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Herbert Williams", "preceding_text": "number of us opposed these Standing Orders on the ground that we had notice of them only on the day upon which we were asked to pass them, and it seemed to be quite improper to pass them then, because they occupied over 12 pages. Since then a number of us have had the opportunity of examining them, and, in view of the fact that they do not do anything of substance but merely tidy up the situation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.602.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.638.5", "colnum": "638", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "Can I inform the Minister —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.638.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.638.5", "colnum": "638", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "Can I inform the Minister —[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Can I inform the Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.638.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.638.5", "colnum": "638", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "Can I inform the Minister —[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Can I inform the Minister—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Is the Minister aware—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.638.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.653.1", "colnum": "653", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "fects in its structure. Most important of all these defects —and I think this will surprise right hon. Gentlemen opposite—was its over-centralisation in Steel House. I believe that anyone with any knowledge of large-scale industrial organisation would say that great advantage would accrue by a measure of de-centralisation in this industry. That is exactly what the Corporation were proposing to do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.653.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1", "colnum": "666", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "The Amendment moved by the Opposition makes two criticisms. The first is that the Government's proposals will not assist the national effort. I notice it is not suggested in the Amendment that our proposals will be actively harmful to the national effort; in their Amendment the Opposition have carefully avoided stating that our proposals would be harmful to the industry, and we —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1", "colnum": "666", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "he outset make it clear that we on this side of the House hold rather more positive views on this question than those expressed in the Amendment. We remain sincerely convinced that the decision to nationalise the iron and steel industry was a very grave error. We believe that the continuance of nationalisation will not only not assist the national effort, but will more and More actively hamper it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1", "colnum": "666", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "Corporation has only been in control for a few months. It has clearly not yet got into its stride. If nationalisation were to continue, the Corporation would, if only to justify its existence, have to become a great deal more active. Gradually, but surely, the units of the steel industry would inevitably become less and less capable of independent initiative and action, and less and less flexible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1", "colnum": "666", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "ly, but surely, the units of the steel industry would inevitably become less and less capable of independent initiative and action, and less and less flexible. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why? \"] These great companies, whose names and reputations stand so high in the world, would more and more lose their separate identity and, with it, much of the goodwill and the specialised markets which they have built up.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1", "colnum": "666", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "with public ownership. The second criticism made in the Amendment is that our proposals are going to create uncertainty in the industry. We seem to have heard this phrase before. It has a familiar, almost a friendly, ring about it. But, if I may say so, it looks a little unhappy and out of place in its new context. The Opposition are now charging us with creating uncertainty in the steel industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.668.0", "colnum": "668", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Throw sand into it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": " in the steel industry. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] It comes strangely from the party opposite. Who first created the uncertainty? In his speech last week, the right hon. Gentleman who was Chancellor of the Exchequer went so far as to warn the Government against throwing a spanner into the works. It is the right hon. Gentleman and his colleagues who threw the spanner in. What we are going to do—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.666.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.668.4", "colnum": "668", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Ridiculous.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "r parties opposed to nationalisation. We pointed this out to the Labour Government in the last Parliament, and in view of the probability of an early election we pressed them to postpone vesting to the latest possible date. They paid no heed whatsoever to our appeals. Instead, apparently anticipating the General Election, they rushed their scheme into operation almost at the first possible moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.668.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.669.2", "colnum": "669", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "If the party opposite had been prepared to accept our advice they could have postponed the vesting date as late as 1st January, 1952, under the terms of the Act. As things have turned out, how much better that would have been for the iron and steel industry. If the late Government had postponed the vesting date until they could have tested the opinion of the nation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.669.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.669.2", "colnum": "669", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why do you not wait to test it too? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "d the vesting date as late as 1st January, 1952, under the terms of the Act. As things have turned out, how much better that would have been for the iron and steel industry. If the late Government had postponed the vesting date until they could have tested the opinion of the nation—[An HON. MEMBER: \"We did.\"]—today we would have found none of the uncertainty that is complained of in the Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.669.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.672.0", "colnum": "672", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "to legislative form, we shall have to consult the principal bodies representing the main interests affected. In addition to the Iron and Steel Corporation itself, those include the British Iron and Steel Federation, the T.U.C. and the representatives of the steel consuming interests. Until those discussions have taken place I am sure the House would not expect me to put forward detailed proposals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.672.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.673.1", "colnum": "673", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Read it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sandys", "preceding_text": "I have the report here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.673.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.674.4", "colnum": "674", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "What I said was this. I quoted the authority of the \"Financial Times.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.674.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.677.1", "colnum": "677", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "n detail, of what their proposals are about the road haulage industry. Otherwise, we shall be in the situation that the speaker who will tell us what the Government propose to do will be actually the last speaker in the debate. I want to ask, if not the Minister of Supply, who could have been briefed, then another Minister, if he wants to come in to tell us, for I am sure we shall give facilities—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.677.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.677.4", "colnum": "677", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker (Colonel Sir Charles MacAndrew)", "preceding_text": "Mr. Mulley.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.677.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.677.8", "colnum": "677", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is not a point of order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "I wish to raise a point of order with you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, and I appreciate your difficulty. I have put a point to the Government which is relevant to the business of the day—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.677.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.678.2", "colnum": "678", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. If it is not convenient for my right hon. Friend's question to be answered, may I put this to you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker? Would it then be possible to divide the Amendment to the Address, which is now before the House, into two parts, one—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.678.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.678.6", "colnum": "678", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": "I was not quite sure whether it would be in order for me to intervene, but I am very glad—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.678.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.681.2", "colnum": "681", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "I was not aware that any point of order had arisen at that moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.681.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.682.0", "colnum": "682", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Malcolm MacMillan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Malcolm MacMillan", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. My hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Park (Mr. Mulley), was called and had started to speak when my right hon. Friend was called, with your permission, and allowed to interrupt the speech of my hon. Friend, who then sat down as a matter of courtesy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.682.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.682.4", "colnum": "682", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The Prime Minister rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.682.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.682.6", "colnum": "682", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ewisham, South (Mr. H. Morrison). Of course, an Opposition puts down an Amendment with a number of criticisms, and it is undoubtedly open to the Opposition to complain if any one of those criticisms, or of the points raised for discussion, is not fully or properly or timeously dealt with. That is perfectly right, and everyone must judge for himself when it comes to going into the Division Lobbies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.682.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.683.1", "colnum": "683", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "While the right hon. Gentleman is in this conciliatory mood, may I suggest that he uses some of his influence with his supporters, to see that my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary at least gets a reasonably uninterrupted hearing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.683.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.695.0", "colnum": "695", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robson Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robson Brown", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member is bringing up debating points, and he now raises the question of profits upon re-armament being made by the steel industry. Surely he knows perfectly well that any responsible over-riding authority of the steel industry would never allow the selling price to be fixed at a figure which would yield to the industry profits which were too high?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.695.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.700.3", "colnum": "700", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Summers", "preceding_text": "sold back at the take-over price when it is known perfectly well that there is no long-term future for those plants. So that is another consideration that will have to be taken into account. I hope that those who are willing to come back into the industry will have to pay for the shares that they will thus acquire a price which will enable the Corporation to write off the losses which no one else—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.700.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.703.0", "colnum": "703", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Mess up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": "is difficult period. Nothing has been put forward by the Minister of Supply or by any other hon. Member opposite which has conveyed the impression that either the de-nationalisation of steel or of road haulage is connected with the greater efficiency of the industry. That point has not been made at all. The Government know perfectly well that if they interfere with the present set-up of transport—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.703.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.711.1", "colnum": "711", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jack Jones", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"For the period of re-armament.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jack Jones", "preceding_text": "ublic supervision, will put up with a form of corporation or board to supervise the industry, but that on no account must such a corporation or board be held commercially or financially accountable to this House. That is the issue at stake. Do not let us try to hide the issue from either the public or ourselves. I know there is some talk about the limitation of dividends for the period of the war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.711.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.715.1", "colnum": "715", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Money.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "preceding_text": "ndustry about to be de-nationalised, which will be almost entirely dependent upon another nationalised industry. The Minister of Supply made it very clear in a speech last week that although we would have to buy a certain amount of coal from India and America we would still be committed to buy ore from Denmark, Sweden, Spain, and so on, and that we should have to pay for it with nationalised coal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.715.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.716.1", "colnum": "716", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "preceding_text": "ly two companies, coming within the ambit of the Act, were not associated or interlocked with one another by directorships. I suggest to the Minister of Supply that he should send a personal letter to every steel worker in the country, and every one of their managements, reminding them of the position—though they do not need to be reminded. It might run something like this: \"Dear Sir and Brother.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.716.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.716.1", "colnum": "716", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "preceding_text": "hem to learn that in addition to the increase in the Bank rate, which will please the bankers very much, somebody, somewhere, will have an increased dividend arising from their sweat on behalf of the country. I say that with all the sincerity I can command. This country is down to bedrock—it could not get much lower than it is—arising from the need to defend the property of those who own the most.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.716.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.721.0", "colnum": "721", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech &#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McLeavy", "preceding_text": "t hon. and learned Gentleman referred, was left to carry on his private business. The others were bought out and their goodwill was transferred to the Transport Commission. It was not because the previous services were not available but because the manufacturers immediately decided to boycott the national services that C licences arose. They never gave the national transport organisation a chance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.721.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.727.3", "colnum": "727", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": " to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. Of course they will have the right. That will be dealt with by legislation. The point I was making was that on coming back into the industry they will then have to submit to a licensing system which will protect the railway companies, the existing hauliers, the Commission and everyone else, and the public ownership will have to submit to the same point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.727.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.729.3", "colnum": "729", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"So it is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "it was a little below that high moral standard which we expect from him—and which we have seen on matters in which he has helped the whole House by giving them a picture in which, may I say to him through you, Mr. Speaker, the vast majority of the House has great confidence—it was a little below the approach that we expect of him, when he said that this was merely a matter of money and of finance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.729.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.731.2", "colnum": "731", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "I am sorry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.731.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.732.1", "colnum": "732", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": ". Gentlemen are sincerely attached will cause disappointment and pain, but I sincerely put this consideration before the House as a House. I hope hon. Gentlemen will think I am sincere in putting it, and I should just like them to try this approach to the problem. Let us look for a moment at the common objective which both our different actions seek to attain. It is the prosperity of the industry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.732.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.732.5", "colnum": "732", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"It was done a year ago.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "o find the dividing line. When the dust and heat of the Election are gone down a bit, is it too much to ask that hon. Gentlemen in all parts of the House should try to find where that dividing line should be drawn and that we should make an effort -I know how everyone feels at this moment, but, after all, we have to look at the vista ahead —to find agreement as to what is the proper dividing line?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.732.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.736.4", "colnum": "736", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "This subject ought not to take up too much of the time of the House. It is too sordid for that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.736.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.737.2", "colnum": "737", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "one would cavil at that; indeed that is the basis of Excess Profits Tax. But I want to remind hon. Members of what is going on behind the scenes, outside the House, namely, proposals to revise the basis of taxation of companies' profits. If they can at the same time impose an Excess Profits Tax and alter the basis of taxation of companies' profits so that they pay less and not more to the Revenue—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.737.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.741.0", "colnum": "741", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "preceding_text": "s, was his interjection, made in the course of the speech of the Minister of Supply—an interjection which the hon. Member for Rotherham (Mr. Jack Jones) has made too—that the T.U.C., in recommending this supervisory board with added powers, did not mean it to apply to steel. Do hon. and right hon. Member opposite realise when they say that of what an enormous fatuity they are accusing the T.U.C.?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.741.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.744.3", "colnum": "744", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jones", "preceding_text": "Surely I cannot explain it more clearly than that. I am giving hon. Members my clearest possible understanding of the proposal as I see it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.744.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.750.1", "colnum": "750", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. Jennings", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Residential.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. Jennings", "preceding_text": "I rise as the representative of one of the constitutencies in that great steel city of Sheffield.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.750.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.751.3", "colnum": "751", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "ional interest in this House. We are appealing today for greater productivity in industry, and I think that we shall only get that greater productivity in industry by a complete change in the hearts and minds of all sections of our people. I believe that the speech of the hon. Member for Rotherham is more likely than any speech that has been made to do harm and interfere with greater productivity—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.751.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.0", "colnum": "752", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "I can assure the hon. Gentleman that the Prime Minister and his Government have no intention of rushing any Bill through here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.0", "colnum": "752", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": " me that the action of the Corporation in getting, rid of eminent directors who have spent their lives in the industry is going to be helpful, then I am sorry to have to assure hon. Members opposite that the future of the steel industry will be black. It is with conviction that I make my appeal to hon. Members opposite to adopt another line. The Prime Minister has appealed for less party politics.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.2", "colnum": "752", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "I cannot give way. When we asked them to put the national interest before the narrow political line, the party opposite took no notice of the appeal, and it is, therefore, somewhat audacious for them to talk now about putting the national interest first, for they put the whole industry into the political arena. The tables are completely turned on them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.2", "colnum": "752", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "ty opposite took no notice of the appeal, and it is, therefore, somewhat audacious for them to talk now about putting the national interest first, for they put the whole industry into the political arena. The tables are completely turned on them—[ Laughter .] Hon. Members opposite may laugh, but I was here and I know the facts. That is why I feel it my duty at all times to fight against this Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.2", "colnum": "752", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Are you taking it out? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "than to others, they will read the sense of what I mean. Hon. Members opposite are now appealing for us to put national interest before party politics. The situation is reversed, for it was they who put the industry into the political arena and we are now seeking to reverse the present position and to put the industry back on a proper footing. Hon. Members opposite put it into the political arena.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.2", "colnum": "752", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "nese competition is increased. When those days come, many hon. Members may wish they had not tinkered with this industry, if we are to maintain our export market in steel. I am very glad indeed that the Prime Minister has undertaken to do what he promised to do. I am certain that he and his Ministers will give a great deal of thought towards handling the problem of handing back the steel industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.752.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.754.1", "colnum": "754", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "I said that the Socialist Government had put it in a mess.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.754.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.754.1", "colnum": "754", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "mount of control is to be exercised in the steel industry. I think that is only right and proper. I should like, in all seriousness, to put forward this point, and I should like the trade union leaders on the other side to consider it. I think that a great deal of credit would go to them if they would follow up this suggestion: Instead of thinking of nationalisation and having a nationalised mind—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.754.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.755.1", "colnum": "755", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Hubbard", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Hubbard", "preceding_text": "entleman nor the right hon. and learned Gentleman made that claim. The decision to nationalise steel was made in the Labour Party's programme in 1945, so that by the time the 1945 Parliament was elected everyone in the steel industry knew it was going to be nationalised. But production did not go down. In fact it increased, which was evidence that the industry welcomed the idea of nationalisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.755.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.755.1", "colnum": "755", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Hubbard", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Hubbard", "preceding_text": "ive is the introduction of more machinery, and the fact there are so many vacancies in industry is further evidence that at the present moment the nationalisation of steel should be set aside. Perhaps there may come a time when evidence can be found to place before this House to justify such a step, but none whatever has been submitted today. At the end of a most hurried and unsatisfactory speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.755.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.755.1", "colnum": "755", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Hubbard", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Hubbard", "preceding_text": "ay come a time when evidence can be found to place before this House to justify such a step, but none whatever has been submitted today. At the end of a most hurried and unsatisfactory speech—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.] Hon. Members opposite can applaud, but anybody who has sat here all day with the idea of making a speech and then has had to put it into a few minutes cannot find it satisfactory.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.755.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.756.1", "colnum": "756", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Griffiths", "preceding_text": ", 1951; Vol. 493, c. 196.] That is what we found, too. The fact of the matter is that for 25 years both those major basic industries upon which our economic survival depends were allowed to drift into ruin and decay. I spent my life in South Wales, where both those industries are very important, and in both of them there is a background of economic decay and technical inadequacy, of unemployment —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.756.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.758.3", "colnum": "758", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about production?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "en carried through smoothly and efficiently and the industry is working under nationalisation smoothly and efficiently. Beneficial changes have been made, one resulting in a saving to the industry of £500,000. Therefore, we are entitled to say in this House and to the country that the Government have not made out the case that nationalisation of steel has failed. On the contrary, it has succeeded.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.758.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.758.3", "colnum": "758", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "ismember and unscramble that. Again, I ask the question, is that going to help the national effort? Neither of the two right hon. Gentlemen spent a single moment in the course of this debate showing how any of this would lead to more efficient service to help the national effort. I come to the electoral point. I am not quite sure whether the new Attorney-General happens to be present this evening.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.758.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.761.1", "colnum": "761", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Has the hon. and gallant Member's party put it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.761.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.761.3", "colnum": "761", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why should they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "nister who is to reply can answer it. Is the Trades Union Congress, before it enters this conference, to be asked to agree that steel should be de-nationalised? I am not a member of the General Council. I am a member of a trade union, one of the biggest trade unions affiliated to the T.U.C. Is the T.U.C. to be asked to come to the conference to agree with the Government proposal to de-nationalise?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.761.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.763.1", "colnum": "763", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "The Minister of Supply has not answered the pertinent question I put to him, which is, is the Trades Union Congress expected, before they come to discuss this matter with him, to declare that they are in favour of the denationalising of steel?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.763.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.763.1", "colnum": "763", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "this Bill. But they will not be there for long. Indeed, they are already on the way out, and when we get back, as we shall, we shall once more do what we did in 1945. The fact is that the reason why they want to de-nationalise steel is for power. That is why they want it, and the country will know what to do with a Government that places privilege and power and profit before the national interest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.763.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.763.1", "colnum": "763", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": " want to de-nationalise steel is for power. That is why they want it, and the country will know what to do with a Government that places privilege and power and profit before the national interest. [ Interruption .] We shall take this Amendment to a Division. I say that the Government have failed to show that either of these measures is in the interests of the nation. They were not intended to be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.763.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.764.1", "colnum": "764", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I must say I did not hear that said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.764.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.764.2", "colnum": "764", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier O. L. Prior-Palmer", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier O. L. Prior-Palmer", "preceding_text": "Brigadier O. L. Prior-Palmer (Worthing) rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.764.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.765.0", "colnum": "765", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Prior-Palmer", "preceding_text": "What I said was—and if it caused offence I will withdraw it—\" Has the right hon. Gentleman ever done anything in the interests of\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.764.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.765.4", "colnum": "765", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation (Mr. John Maclay)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Which party is that? \"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation (Mr. John Maclay)", "preceding_text": "t I have to say and will not expect quarter from anybody. I know that the House will give me a hearing, but if I am provocative I expect to be answered. The right hon. Member for Llanelly (Mr. J. Griffiths), sat down with what I considered was a most astonishing remark from a right hon. Gentleman whom I have come to respect. He cast grave aspersions on the integrity of the party to which I belong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.765.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.765.4", "colnum": "765", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation (Mr. John Maclay)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation (Mr. John Maclay)", "preceding_text": "do. Right through the whole question of nationalisation, we have never seen one sign from right hon. Gentlemen opposite of concern for the national interest. Let me ask them this question. When they come back to power, if they ever do, and they find that the steel industry is producing with the same magnificent efficiency as it was when they took it over, are they still going to re-nationalise it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.765.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.765.4", "colnum": "765", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation (Mr. John Maclay)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is your action? \"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation (Mr. John Maclay)", "preceding_text": "interest from right hon. Gentlemen opposite. Let us look at some of the arguments put forward. I watched with great interest for some of the staggering things that were always about to be said in the winding-up speech from the right hon. Gentleman opposite about road haulage, but I could not find anything to put in my notes. There was just the question how far our actions would improve efficiency.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.765.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-12", "file": "debates1951-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "bf4f8ad7cd9cac61", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.768.1", "colnum": "768", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; STEEL INDUSTRY AND ROAD HAULAGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is integration?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maclay", "preceding_text": "d to be slowed up and stopped because of the need for re-armament in the 1939 war. I have said that time after time on the Floor of this House, and it has never been contradicted. There was the Stewart and Lloyd integration and the Guest, Keen and Nettlefold's integration, producing two of the finest plants the world has ever seen. There were other integrations to go forward in the steel industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-12a.768.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.792.0", "colnum": "792", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; KOREA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "While thanking my right hon. Friend for his reply, may I ask him to bear in mind that there has been a tendency in the past to treat these gallant men in Korea as forgotten men?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.791.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.792.1", "colnum": "792", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; KOREA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "I can assure my hon. Friend that every possible step will be taken—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.792.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.822.7", "colnum": "822", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Herbert Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What pressure?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Herbert Morrison", "preceding_text": "ll place. It is equally true to say that our concentration on the public interest and the general interest is not really assisted by the scattering of Parliament as if it were something of a nuisance, something of an annoying Obstacle. But that is how the Government have begun by proposing an abnormally long Christmas Recess. It is true that under pressure they have somewhat shortened that Recess—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.822.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.822.7", "colnum": "822", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Herbert Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Herbert Morrison", "preceding_text": "s small parliamentary majority in the House, he says, \"Let us forget it all. Let us forget the warnings we gave about the bad state of the country. Let us forget the promises. Let us forget the electorate. Let us forget everything. And let Parliament be submissive, and let no Labour M.P. say 'boo' to a Tory goose.\" In short, the Prime Minister says, in effect, \"I am on the winning side this time.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.822.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.825.1", "colnum": "825", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "ves themselves. The Dispatch Box has become the penitent's box. Let us examine the Conservative election promises. Let us take housing. There was the promise of the target of 300,000 houses. It started at a Conservative Party conference by the overwhelming of the platform by the floor clamouring for 300,00 houses—and they never talked about a target. The platform was overwhelmed. They resisted it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.825.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.825.1", "colnum": "825", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Minister of Housing and Local Government.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": " which followed that Blackpool conference. I do not think that it was mentioned at a Bristol bye-election, but they dug it out again at the General Election, as it was considered, no doubt, too good a selling point to drop altogether. Now the Chancellor of the Exchequer proposes to drop the amount of other building work started. We ought to be told by the Minister of Local Government and Planning—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.825.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.825.1", "colnum": "825", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "ent. He had better go on their platform again now. Indeed, I invite and incite the Housewives' League to invite the right hon. and learned Gentleman to go to another nice mass meeting. Let them wait a week or two; let it not be hurried, and let the Minister for Welsh Affairs then explain to them how it is that the Conservatives incited the Housewives' League to function as a Tory Party subsidiary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.825.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.829.1", "colnum": "829", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "If the League was formed in the hon. Gentleman's constituency, that is a certain sign of suspicion, but in any case, it is quite clear that millions of electors were led to think that, if they voted Conservative, they would have more food and a greater variety of food.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.829.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.829.1", "colnum": "829", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "bad things were.\" I must say that is extraordinary. We spent six years in this House listening to hon. Members, when they sat on this side of the House, telling us how bad things were; but along come right hon. Gentlemen opposite and say, \"We are so sorry to have to do these things, but we really did not know how bad things were. We were deceived by the wicked Socialists when they were in office.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.829.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.831.0", "colnum": "831", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "us. We can narrow the dollar gap only by exporting more goods to the dollar countries or by reducing our purchases from them. These purchases include supplies we cannot dispense with for the national effort. These are stark and stern facts which we have to face and which any new Government will have to try to resolve That is why no responsible politician should speak comfortable words to you now.'", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.829.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.832.3", "colnum": "832", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "s and he has put some people in holes who ought never to have been in holes at all. For example, I really cannot understand why he put the Minister of Works where he is. We do not agree with the present Minister of Works but he had made serious contributions to our economic and financial discussions in the House and one would have thought he was marked out for a Department like the Board of Trade.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.832.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.832.3", "colnum": "832", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": " Ministry of Civil Aviation, which I understand is now to be merged into the Ministry of Transport. Lord Cherwell has other duties which are not so clear. I gather that science is among them. Presumably that means that the Lord President of the Council has lost the functions he had many years ago of general responsibility for civil science. I know that Lord Cherwell is a scientist of some ability.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.832.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.832.3", "colnum": "832", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "st the functions he had many years ago of general responsibility for civil science. I know that Lord Cherwell is a scientist of some ability. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"]It is so. I am trying to be nice; give me a chance and do not discourage me. I understand he is a scientist. That is not disputed. But I am very doubtful, from my experience in handling our scientific research departments and so on�&#382;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.832.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.832.3", "colnum": "832", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "sort should be published so that the House and the country may know what is being done. I think we ought to be told about that. This House represents the nation. It should be consulted, and we demand this right. We demand this right as an Opposition on behalf of the whole House and on behalf of the nation, remembering that we on this side represent more of the nation than do hon. Members opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.832.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.840.1", "colnum": "840", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It was August.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": " even Archbishop Laud or Strafford would never have ventured to make. After the Election of 1945, when leading Ministers had been in office for five years, with all the access to precise information at home and abroad which office brings and which is open only to Ministers; in 1945, Ministers decided that Parliament should reassemble for a period of eight Parliamentary days, in the first instance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.840.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.852.1", "colnum": "852", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No &#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. I am asking you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, if I am entitled—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.852.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.864.1", "colnum": "864", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Tomney", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Tomney", "preceding_text": "l building some 300,000 children will be unable to find school places. That is a problem which cannot be. overlooked. In spite of the new techniques developed for building schools the same type of building labour is by and large still needed. Hon. Members should consider that estimate of 300,000 school children for when there will not be school places. The Government have got away to a good start—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.864.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.882.1", "colnum": "882", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nicholls", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"To whom?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nicholls", "preceding_text": "ses and if half the houses were taken up in this way, the Exchequer would save £49,500 and the local authority would save £16,500. If the local authorities want some money to pay the extra rate of interest which they may have to pay for a short time, then we should encourage the sale of the pre-war houses that were built at £475. They could be sold now quite honourably at a market price of £1,100.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.882.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.886.1", "colnum": "886", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilfred Fienburgh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilfred Fienburgh", "preceding_text": "s. I am sure that in that way quite a lot of waste will be cut out, because, believe me, the people who work on the shop floors know where waste is. There is one final factor which, I think, is needed in creating this climate which will enable the workers in private industry to give of their best. There must be no more talk of the need for a pool or reserve of unemployment to stimulate the people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.886.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.910.1", "colnum": "910", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": ". Friend. I was in the House on that occasion, but my recollection was that it was made in reply to a claim that the Government, having been returned at two General Elections, and having promised to nationalise steel, considered that that was a mandate and it was the reply of the then Leader of the Opposition that it was a new doctrine that because someone stuck something in an election manifesto—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.910.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.910.1", "colnum": "910", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": ", c. 585.] If that is not a complete answer to the suggestions we repeatedly hear that private enterprise is concerned with the national interests I do not know what is. The Minister was saying that private enterprise, if it got the chance, would go abroad and spend dollars irrespective of what might be the interests of the country, entirely in the interests of their own personal profit and trade.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.910.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.914.4", "colnum": "914", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": "I hope that the hon. Gentleman does not want to divert me into a discussion on devaluation, because I know that other hon. Members want to speak.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.914.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.914.6", "colnum": "914", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": ". Therefore, I do not want to waste any more time upon it. It is in face of this that we get these appeals for national unity and increased production from the trade unions, and are expected to take them without any kind of criticism. We hear a lot of talk about increased production but it is not enough for hon. Members opposite simply to make appeals for that production without expecting a reply.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.914.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.927.1", "colnum": "927", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Profumo", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Profumo", "preceding_text": "this Amendment. The right hon. Member for Lewisham, South (Mr. H. Morrison), when he introduced the debate, talked about scare and alarm which the Tories had created during the Election. That is just what this Amendment is designed to do. It is supposed to create scare and alarm in the minds of people all over the world that the Conservative Party are not going to carry out their election pledges—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.927.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.927.1", "colnum": "927", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Profumo", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Profumo", "preceding_text": "ame to power in 1945. At that time there were no more serious problems to deal with than there are today. I am reminded by an hon. Friend that we were at war at that time with Japan. Do not hon. Members opposite realise how important it is in the national interest that the Prime Minister and other Ministers should have a period of time in which to create a well-thought-out and constructive policy?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.927.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.927.1", "colnum": "927", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Profumo", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Profumo", "preceding_text": "hes to speak now—I want to make one reference to him. He said at the outset of the debate on the Address that the Opposition would be vigilant but they would not be factious. Many of us on this side of the House hoped that he made that statement after consultation with his colleagues, but it was an ill-founded hope because as soon as he had made that pronouncement we had a taste of things to come—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.927.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1", "colnum": "936", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Are yours?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": "d realisation of that fact on the part of the Government at that time. I think the late Prime Minister was right there. After all, one of his own supporters did go so far as to say that Imagination is not one of the great assets of our Ministers. He was right, because looking ahead was not one of the strong points of the late Administration. Their imaginative powers were not very highly developed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1", "colnum": "936", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Bankruptcy.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": "were not very highly developed. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Are yours?\"] I hope they are; those of my colleagues certainly are. A little imagination might have foreseen some of the troubles coming, shall we say in Abadan, or in Egypt, or in the financial crisis. They did not have the imagination even to make use of the glittering opportunities left to them in 1945 by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1", "colnum": "936", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": ", shall we say in Abadan, or in Egypt, or in the financial crisis. They did not have the imagination even to make use of the glittering opportunities left to them in 1945 by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Bankruptcy.\"] They devoted themselves not so much to the national interest as to their squalid political schemes. We have only been here in office just over two weeks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1", "colnum": "936", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": " right hon. Member for Lewisham, South (Mr. H. Morrison), who opened this debate, tried to make out that we had thrown over all our election promises because certain controls had had to be introduced forthwith. He forgot to remind himself that the general subject of controls comes into the Gracious Speech and we propose to review that, but for the immediate financial crash with which we are faced—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1", "colnum": "936", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Council houses.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": " matter of fact, the Prime Minister yesterday gave a reply to that question and said he would make an announcement almost immediately. The Leader of the Opposition, on the other hand, considering the points made by my right hon. Friend, the Minister for Housing and Local Government, said it was a dreadful idea that anybody should think of making it easier for people to buy and own their own homes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-13", "file": "debates1951-11-13a.xml", "sha256": "6599811da7de088a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1", "colnum": "936", "heading": "GOVERNMENT POLICY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": "wn homes. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Council houses.\"] My right hon. Friend said \"their own homes\"; the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition put the gloss on it and said \"council houses\". During the six years in which he was Prime Minister, under the Small Dwellings Acquisition Act, by which money is provided for would-be purchasers of houses, of which the majority are purchasing council houses—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-13a.936.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.992.3", "colnum": "992", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Maxwell Fyfe", "preceding_text": "ents. I know that both of my right hon. Friends looked into this, and they did not think that there would be any deleterious effect, and they bad very much in mind the object about which the hon. Member has spoken. I assure him that, if it is found to have any adverse effect, we shall be only too glad to look at it again. The power still remains to make the Regulation if any case for it were made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.992.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1010.5", "colnum": "1010", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Bing", "preceding_text": "Perhaps it might be in order if I refer you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, to a debate which took place in similar circumstances last year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1010.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1042.1", "colnum": "1042", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James MaeColl", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James MaeColl", "preceding_text": "is discussion later. Nobody has a more sincere admiration than I of the Parliamentary skill and resourcefulness of the Financial Secretary, but if there is one subject upon which his mind is an innocent virginity, I should have thought it was the subject of local government, and I am rather surprised that he intends to launch out in this debate. Perhaps I may come to the merits of this Regulation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1059.1", "colnum": "1059", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Hartley Shawcross (St. Helens)", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Hartley Shawcross (St. Helens)", "preceding_text": "m arrest, liberties of that kind. But we on this side of the House have always thought that just as in war-time it is necessary to promote, develop, mobilise and deploy the resources of the nation for the purposes of national defence, so in peace-time it is both right and necessary that none of our resources should be wasted or dissipated in ways which do not promote the prosperity of the country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1059.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1086.1", "colnum": "1086", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Here comes the Parliamentary Secretary.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Fletcher", "preceding_text": "I beg to second the Motion. I think it really is quite intolerable that this House should be asked to continue this debate in the present situation, without the presence here in the House of the Minister responsible. This debate has continued for about five hours. Several Members—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1086.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1096.2", "colnum": "1096", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Fernyhough", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Fernyhough", "preceding_text": "The answer of the Parliamentary Secretary is quite unsatisfactory. He knows that the coal position today is no more acute than it was at this time last year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1096.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1099.4", "colnum": "1099", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "om Acts relating to midwives. A very grave injustice was done to a small but hard-working body of midwives by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food, and I am sorry to see that he is one of the absentees from the Government Front Bench tonight. An Amendment was moved by the Leader of the House to delete this Regulation. The point which was raised, and we can deal with it very shortly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1099.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1116.4", "colnum": "1116", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "One of his right hon. and learned Friends was then Attorney-General, and the Attorney-General appears in the OFFICIAL REPORT as having replied to this debate. I beg the hon. and learned Member at least to conceive it possible that his right hon. and learned Friend carried conviction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1116.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-14", "file": "debates1951-11-14a.xml", "sha256": "011032a8580ecb7e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1123.0", "colnum": "1123", "heading": "TRANSITIONAL POWERS AND EMERGENCY LAWS (CONTINUANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ede", "preceding_text": "Yes, but if the review is not the one he likes he may not get an opportunity of action in this matter.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-14a.1123.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1152.4", "colnum": "1152", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EMPLOYMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Do not read it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Alport", "preceding_text": "Does the Minister agree that the problem of those who are seeking employment when over 45 years of age is probably greater than the present statistics show and—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1152.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1160.4", "colnum": "1160", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EMPLOYMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "When?", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I think I am to be asked a question on this point a little later in the week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1160.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1160.7", "colnum": "1160", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; EMPLOYMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too late.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Owing to the inadequate and wholly unsatisfactory nature of the reply to Question No. 46, I should like to give notice—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1160.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1173.0", "colnum": "1173", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Two hours.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "We would be very happy, if it is the wish of the House in general, to extend the debate for an extra hour on Monday.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1173.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1212.0", "colnum": "1212", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Norman Smith", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Norman Smith", "preceding_text": " out of the Expiring Laws Continuance Bill, it would have been open to a degree of suspicion and misrepresentation throughout the Six Counties which might well have had a very serious effect. But there has been a change since then, and if the Home Secretary wishes to know what that change is, it is that we have now a Conservative Government. The Conservative Party have a very heavy responsibility—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1212.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1219.0", "colnum": "1219", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"In Dublin.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "rom Parliament, because these were the people who were drilling in Northern Ireland. Therefore, to say that, because one thing happened 12 years ago, we should go on in that way is entirely wrong, and is an unstable point of view. Secondly, the Home Secretary, before giving matters to the Committee as facts, ought to check his information. He said that there was a bomb outrage recently in Belfast.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1219.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1237.1", "colnum": "1237", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BORDER RIVERS (PREVENTION OF POLLUTION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"The Prime Minister.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "ver Boards Act, 1948, and the Rivers (Prevention of Pollution) Act, 1951, which applies to England and Wales, and the Rivers (Prevention of Pollution) (Scotland) Act which applies to Scotland. I believe that the Act of 1898 was a failure. Of course, there were many important events in 1898; it was the first occasion upon which the Leader of the Opposition appeared in public as a war correspondent—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1237.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1240.4", "colnum": "1240", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; BORDER RIVERS (PREVENTION OF POLLUTION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Niall Macpherson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Niall Macpherson", "preceding_text": "cumstances, just as responsibility for pollution is divided and co-ordination effected by a joint committee, so too responsibility of the Esk, so far as fisheries are concerned, could be divided and a joint committee or council set up for co-ordination of fisheries. What I should like the Government to do—I suppose that I am entirely a lone voice in this matter—is to withdraw this Bill altogether.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1240.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1279.0", "colnum": "1279", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COTTON BOARD (AMENDMENT ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Shawcross", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Shawcross", "preceding_text": "nvolved dollar expenditure. I am certainly not convinced that a great deal more cannot still be done to stimulate cotton production—no doubt this is also true in the case of many other primary products—within our Colonial Territories. It cannot be said that in the past the Conservative Party has made any very great contributions to the development of the great colonial territories of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1279.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1279.0", "colnum": "1279", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COTTON BOARD (AMENDMENT ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Shawcross", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Shawcross", "preceding_text": "said of their policy in these matters, \"There would be patriotism by the Impeial pint.\" As another distinguished statesman, also well known to hon. Members opposite— I am referring to Lord Beaverbrook—has made abundantly clear time and time again, the Conservative Party spent their many years in office between the two wars in neglecting the great opportunities of colonial development that existed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1279.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1283.1", "colnum": "1283", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; COTTON BOARD (AMENDMENT ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strauss", "preceding_text": "sion of thought in many of the speeches we have heard from hon. Gentlemen opposite. They seemed to think that a man was wholly illogical unless he held one of two views—either that all development councils were good or that all development councils were bad. It just happens that we on this side of the House do not hold either of those views and think that each of those views is equally ridiculous.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1283.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1291.1", "colnum": "1291", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC PETITIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": " Table, and one hon. Member in one debate in 1948 was good enough to suggest that it might go into the wastepaper basket, but Mr. Speaker gave a formal Ruling that the place for the petition is not the waste-paper basket but is in the bag. Nothing happens. It is taken from the bag, passed to the Committee, if we appoint it, and the duty of the Committee is to count the signatures and nothing else.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1291.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1291.1", "colnum": "1291", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC PETITIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "ether the discussion can go beyond ten o'clock, and I have no desire for it to do so. All I ask the hon. Gentleman to do is to tell us what the Committee are for and what they are going to do, because they have stopped counting the votes. In every Report we have had recently they have said there has been so much evidence of duplication of handwriting that on the whole, they have given up counting.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1291.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-15", "file": "debates1951-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "3dc8eef808956cce", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1293.0", "colnum": "1293", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC PETITIONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": " consider them, and they will be sent to the appropriate Ministers and the appropriate Departments? Can the Committee be empowered to do something with a petition other than print a perfectly worthless piece of paper saying there are so many signatures on it or saying that they have not counted the signatures? Those are the questions and I should be very glad indeed if we could have them answered.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-15a.1291.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-16", "file": "debates1951-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "bad58e0e3c988399", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-16a.1391.3", "colnum": "1391", "heading": "TENANT-OCCUPIED HOUSES, SCOTLAND (SALE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Six months.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Rankin", "preceding_text": "early 300 houses for sale, when, at the same time, 100,000 people in the city are looking for homes. The fact that these houses are advertised for sale publicly does not obscure the fact that there are hundreds which are never advertised publicly. Despite the appalling need for houses in Glasgow, these empty dwelling houses are sometimes kept out of use for anything from six weeks to three months—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-16a.1391.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-16", "file": "debates1951-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "bad58e0e3c988399", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-16a.1401.0", "colnum": "1401", "heading": "TENANT-OCCUPIED HOUSES, SCOTLAND (SALE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "Certainly not. They said they would not have more than 200,000 houses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-16a.1401.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.7.6", "colnum": "7", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hobson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hobson", "preceding_text": "Surely, the Minister has powers, in the interests of safety, not only of the trains passing over the crossing but also of the traffic 'passing over it, and will he not use these powers for the prevention of accidents?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.7.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.18.6", "colnum": "18", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "r Leeds, North-West (Mr. Kaberry) who has a further Question on the Order Paper, and the allegation made by this gentleman that there was a gross attempt made to interfere with his independence in a judicial capacity, may I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether he will think again and, in any case, whether he will accept a full statement which has been sent to me by the chairman concerned? Further—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.18.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.25.8", "colnum": "25", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; QUESTIONS TO THE PRIME MINISTER", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Anthony Eden)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Anthony Eden)", "preceding_text": "Perhaps I may be allowed to explain. I think the House knows why the Prime Minister is not here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.25.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.34.3", "colnum": "34", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Anthony Eden)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Anthony Eden)", "preceding_text": "pon armaments. Then, added to all this, is the Middle East situation, where frenzied nationalism or religious fanaticism, or a blend of both, seeks to create mass hatreds between those who ought to be friends, and thus makes calm discussion of any charge almost impossible. The fact that this ferment of nationalism is often a means to divert attention from difficulties and abuses on the home front—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.34.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.34.3", "colnum": "34", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Anthony Eden)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Anthony Eden)", "preceding_text": " have in mind, and it is this: if the meeting of the United Nations in Paris—or any other forum— will provide an occasion to make progress—I do not care where, or when, or how—I am ready at any time to meet my colleagues, not for wide, general discussion, or sterile debate, or mutual abuse about our respective ideologies, but to discuss and seek to solve some specific topics which today divide us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.34.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.56.5", "colnum": "56", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "ouse knows of his knowledge of the Middle East, he has often been there, and we would all regard him as the kind of man, both temperamentally and intellectually, who would be suitable; and who would be sufficiently elastic and adaptable to deal with a trickly problem of this kind. He is capable of understanding the outlook of other people, which is not true of everybody on this side—on this earth—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.56.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.56.5", "colnum": "56", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "ith its cohesion and cooperation, including the Scandinavian countries. Let me say just a word about our relations with the United States. I could not take a stronger view than I do that our relations with the United States should be close and cordial. I think anti-Americanism is a very unpleasant thing, and I do not think we want it. It is bad, just as anti-Britishism in the United States is bad.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.56.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.67.1", "colnum": "67", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend is quite wrong; I am not anti-Russian.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.67.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.103.3", "colnum": "103", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "preceding_text": "o are prepared to say things to the American's face. It is no good dealing in affable, diplomatic terms, and expect that that point of view will be accepted. It seems to me that there was far too much affable diplomacy in the late Government and far too little of the point of view which my right hon. Friend so ably expressed from the Despatch Box on the Opposition side of the House this afternoon.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.103.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.124.1", "colnum": "124", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Major H. Legge-Bourke", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Such as?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major H. Legge-Bourke", "preceding_text": " out of the Library at the moment, but I think I can remember it nearly accurately. Stalin said something like this: \"Where does one strike at Imperialism? Where the chain is weakest. Where will the next blow come? Some say India. Why India? Because there you have a young revolutionary proletariat.\" I believe India is in great peril and likely to get into greater peril unless we do something soon.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.124.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.143.6", "colnum": "143", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mott-Radclyffe", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mott-Radclyffe", "preceding_text": " of the United States. What a pity it was that during the last six tortuous years the then British Prime Minister and President Truman met on only one occasion. Had they met more often, a great many mistakes might have been avoided. If I may say so, had there been fewer week-end speeches by certain hon. Members opposite about dollar imperialism, there might have been a great deal less ill-feeling.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.143.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.143.6", "colnum": "143", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mott-Radclyffe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mott-Radclyffe", "preceding_text": "ll that is now past and over, and the new meeting in January, which is projected between my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister and President Truman, will, I hope, be the first of many. Plans must now be co-ordinated. Events can be foreseen. The era of pettiness is over. The voice of Britain in international affairs is no longer the voice of men who could not even run a funfair in Battersea Park—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.143.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.146.1", "colnum": "146", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "wing the outbreak of war in Korea. So, according to this account, we are still in a state of great military weakness as compared with the Soviet Empire. If that is so, logically the policy of negotiation from strength is a policy opposed to negotiation at the present time. Because if we were to negotiate at the present time we would be negotiating from weakness. There can be no flaw in that logic—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.146.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-19", "file": "debates1951-11-19a.xml", "sha256": "01ade793c7183683", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.153.1", "colnum": "153", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "e some of the disastrous policies the American Government have been pursuing during recent months and recent years. If we are to be able to do that we have to be independent ourselves. We shall not be able to exert that power and influence if we are now going to place ourselves in a position of dependence on the Americans such as we have never had since 1945 or since even the beginning of the war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-19a.153.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.204.10", "colnum": "204", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "preceding_text": "As this figure is obviously much in excess of the figure for 1938—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.204.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.212.0", "colnum": "212", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "I think it would be very foolish of me to tie myself—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.212.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.212.5", "colnum": "212", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman presses me, but he knows perfectly well what the statement was. I requoted it myself from my right hon. Friend's speech the other day. It is a target which we shall aim to achieve.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.212.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.239.1", "colnum": "239", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. R. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. R. Stokes", "preceding_text": "I should like to open my remarks by complimenting the Under-Secretary of State on his first innings at the Box.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.239.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.242.1", "colnum": "242", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "o the limit in our attempt to arrive at a solution before going to the United Nations—I can tell the House that up to as late a date as 20th August I had thought it possible to arrive at a solution but, after making great progress that day, something happened which altered the mind of the Prime Minister and I found on my return to the discussions the next day that no further progress was possible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.242.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.249.0", "colnum": "249", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": " we seem to have gone to the other extreme, in which, in our anxiety to avoid secret understanding, we have actually reached a position in which we can probably arrive at no understanding at all. In fact, it might be said that these public discussions have won one success which they can fairly claim; namely, that they obtain in public agreement to disagree. which agreement is most faithfully kept.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.249.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.264.1", "colnum": "264", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Malcolm McCorquodale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Nationalisation?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Malcolm McCorquodale", "preceding_text": "t meanwhile guarantee to ensure the defence and security of the Sudan during the intervening period.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 15th November, 1951; Vol. 493, c. 1179.] We must now take up our trusteeship on our own to bring the Sudanese to the stage of self-government as a prelude to self-determination, to use my right hon. Friend's words. There is a gale of nationalisation sweeping over the Middle East.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.264.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.277.1", "colnum": "277", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "s one side of the desert which the Egyptian army was allowed to keep when it was thrown out of other parts of Palestine. Of course, the Israelis would not throw them out of Gaza, because they did not want the 200,000 refugees. So, cold bloodedly, they have been left in destitution under Egyptian control, and completely cut off from contact with Israel. Here is one of the natural places for a base.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.277.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.283.1", "colnum": "283", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "going to that one campaign. On top of Indo-China there is the Brussels decision. All this has made the Americans militarily stronger, and it has made us British militarily stronger. When I saw our Forces in Germany I was impressed. We had two armoured divisions, and we did not have that before the war, but the sudden increase of military strength has meant a terrible decrease of economic strength.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.283.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.320.5", "colnum": "320", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "preceding_text": "e first Western statesman to go to Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution. During the last war, when he went there with the present Prime Minister and Lord Beaverbrook, Stalin said to him: \"We want to give a dinner party to you personally.\" It was because of the memory that he was the first states-man to go there from the Western world after the Bolshevik Revolution. That may yet be very important.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.320.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-20", "file": "debates1951-11-20a.xml", "sha256": "1a958fe0e3b11891", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.322.3", "colnum": "322", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "preceding_text": " travelling across Europe this summer I heard not one word said against this country. In fact, I heard not one word said about this country at all. There were three great Powers that were discussed everywhere—Russia, Germany, America. Two countries were never mentioned—France and Britain. Maybe the long absence from his office of the Socialist Foreign Secretary caused great damage to our prestige.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-20a.322.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.395.0", "colnum": "395", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICAN TERRITORIES (FEDERATION SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lyttelton", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman has asked three questions. I hope I have got them aright. The first question concerned a debate. That is a question for my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House. Before these discussions reach finality there will, of course, be opportunities for raising the matter, but, naturally, not before the House adjourns.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.395.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.397.3", "colnum": "397", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICAN TERRITORIES (FEDERATION SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Johnson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Llanelly.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Johnson", "preceding_text": "Is the Secretary of State for the Colonies aware that Sir Godfrey Huggins, speaking on Monday of this week in Salisbury, Rhodesia, described the Victoria Falls conference as \"a native benefit society led by the Secretary of State,\" my right hon. Friend the Member for Ebbw Vale.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.397.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.397.4", "colnum": "397", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICAN TERRITORIES (FEDERATION SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. The hon. Gentleman is asking the Secretary of State to interpret a statement made by one for whom he is not responsible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.397.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.447.4", "colnum": "447", "heading": "NEW MINISTERS (SALARIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "preceding_text": "The Prime Minister knows perfectly well—or would, if he were not feeling so heated on this subject—that that was a lighthearted remark of mine.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.447.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.451.1", "colnum": "451", "heading": "NEW MINISTERS (SALARIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheer up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": "ey for doing it. Is that the new way in which this Conservative Government is to apply incentives to industry? Will they say to general managers, \"You should get less money than the assistant managers so that the assistant managers will have a greater inducement to get your jobs, because they will thereby get less for doing them\"? My next point is this: I was very unhappy about the Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.451.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.453.1", "colnum": "453", "heading": "NEW MINISTERS (SALARIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": "it is possible to go on producing sets of figures none of which will ever correlate with another set. I can assure the Chancellor that it will be quite easy for the Prime Minister to produce a set of figures which will make him look stupid and confused. It does not end there. If they are to discuss transport or fuel and power any morning, the Ministers concerned will have their own set of figures.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.453.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.481.1", "colnum": "481", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hector McNeil", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hector McNeil", "preceding_text": "ch the right hon. Gentleman has offered us, but I am afraid that it scarcely goes far enough. Some of my hon. Friends, not intimately acquainted with this business, might unwittingly have concluded that the right hon. Gentleman was talking about a Committee of this House when he spoke about the recommendations offered by a committee which carried on it two former Secretaries of State for Scotland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.481.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.486.1", "colnum": "486", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": " mean more by that statement than that he will accept the task of consulting, stimulating and supporting such excellent organisations as the Scottish T.U.C. and the Scottish Council for Industry, both of whom do magnificent jobs? If he is going to do no more than see that some of the big gaps in Scottish industry, created primarily by 50 years of Tory neglect, are filled by new and light industry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.486.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.491.2", "colnum": "491", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not four?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "ether we are going to get value for it. We have already been told the relationship of the new Minister of State to the Secretary of State. He is going to be the underling of the Secretary of State. What is to be the relationship with the Under-Secretaries of State? We have two, but this Government, which intends to cut down expenditure, is to give us another we are to have three Under-Secretaries.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.491.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.494.1", "colnum": "494", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. C. Manuel", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. C. Manuel", "preceding_text": "n personnel, in order to try to bring the Government nearer to the lives of the people. I am especially concerned about the application of the new post to the Highlands and Islands and to their welfare. Those of us who are interested in the Highlands and Islands recognise their importance—and I am glad to see in his place the hon. and gallant Member for Argyll (Major McCallum), who is responsible—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.494.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.497.3", "colnum": "497", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Major D. McCallum", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Which one?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major D. McCallum", "preceding_text": "It surprises me that hon. Members of the other side seem to find something to wonder at in the Government's decision to fulfil their election pledge.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.497.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.505.1", "colnum": "505", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Rankin", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Rankin", "preceding_text": "ss journey. One interesting feature of the debate, so far as I have observed it, has been the boiling enthusiasm which has been shown on the other side of the Committee for this appointment. The silence of hon. Members opposite has been most remarkable. Only two have dared to break the Trappist vow which has been either taken by, or imposed upon, them tonight, and both those hon. Members confined—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.505.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.506.3", "colnum": "506", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A maternity home?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "Yes, everything has been put on record in the White Paper issued by the late Government and the hon. Member can get that on application. I hope he will find time to read it, because if all rumour is true he may have occasion to spend some time on it. I wish to remind the Committee of the place from which this novel suggestion first came. It was a place in Glasgow which is very famous—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.506.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.506.3", "colnum": "506", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What happened there?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "l rumour is true he may have occasion to spend some time on it. I wish to remind the Committee of the place from which this novel suggestion first came. It was a place in Glasgow which is very famous—[An HON. MEMBER: \"A maternity home?\"] No not a maternity home. Most Scottish hon. Members, will have heard of Ibrox Park. It will not be unfamiliar to the hon. Member for Woodside (Mr. W. G. Bennett)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.506.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.513.1", "colnum": "513", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wheatley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wheatley", "preceding_text": "The responsibility for taking industry into the Highlands under the development plan is that of private enterprise—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.513.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.520.2", "colnum": "520", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is hypothetical.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "I know that this is all new and we are anxious to understand it, but if the Minister of State has a disagreement with the hon. and gallant Member for Pollok (Commander Galbraith) as head of the Scottish Home Department—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.520.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-21", "file": "debates1951-11-21a.xml", "sha256": "04bfe01768922ff7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.523.3", "colnum": "523", "heading": "SCOTTISH AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Only just.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "preceding_text": "in the art, but I took some notes and the Committee will be glad to hear that I am gradually ploughing my way through them. The hon. Lady, who is not now present, also referred to the educational qualifications of the Scottish Members on this side of the Committee. I do not wish to go out of order, Sir Charles, but I only say to her that I believe it is possible to be educated outside of Scotland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-21a.523.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.570.2", "colnum": "570", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I understood, through the usual channels, that up to 9 o'Clock was considered suitable by hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.570.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.571.0", "colnum": "571", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "All I can say is that it is rather difficult to fit in all this business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.571.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.574.5", "colnum": "574", "heading": "QUESTIONS ON NATIONALISED INDUSTRIES (SELECT COMMITTEE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I understood you to call further business, Mr. Speaker. Should not your Ruling, which applied to my hon. Friend the Member for Ayrshire, South (Mr. Emrys Hughes), and myself, also apply to the Leader of the House? I respectfully suggest that there seems to be a different Ruling because of a different personality.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.574.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.585.1", "colnum": "585", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "cause it would be made at the expense of the stores now earmarked for the rapid mobilisation of the Territorial Army. It is our intention, as soon as the situation permits, to issue the Home Guard with uniform. But until that moment arrives the Home Guard will be given, in lieu, an allowance of £2 12s. per year to defray damage done to their own clothes when carrying out training and their duties—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.585.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.586.3", "colnum": "586", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "I did explain that that was following precedent in these matters. I have so far as possible outlined to the House the intention of the terms and Regulations we propose to introduce subsequent to the passage of the Bill. But there are many hon. Members, especially on the other side of the House who will say, I think, \"Why are you introducing this Measure now?\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.586.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.586.3", "colnum": "586", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "e you introducing this Measure now?\" [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I can see that my intuition has not failed me. They will say. \"Why go beyond the stage to which the late Government got, of earmarking battalion commanders for this Force?\" The first point I would make, very strongly, is that the introduction of this Measure is not because His Majesty's Government think that war is any more likely—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.586.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.589.5", "colnum": "589", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Nonsense&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman said: &#x2026; there will be a serious danger of an outbreak by Communist sympathisers of sabotage and attempts to incite civil disturbance and strikes.\"—[OFFICIAL, REPORT, 13th September, 1950; Vol. 478, c. 1233.] And he advocated the formation of a Home Guard along the pattern of that in France to break strikes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.589.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.593.1", "colnum": "593", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "e opinion that this is not the time. On the other hand, even assuming that this is the time, my reply is that there are adequate Forces at our disposal. The right hon. Gentleman did not say anything about that subject, and so I would like to fill the gap. Let us consider what we have got. Let us not forget that the position today is quite different from what it was in 1939; it is vastly different.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.593.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.596.1", "colnum": "596", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " and no doubt their numbers will be added to from time to time, perhaps during the next year. But we do not know what the numbers will be in the course of 12 months. What I particularly want to know is whether these men can be called up at any time of industrial dispute. If the right hon. Gentleman replies in the negative, then I suggest it ought to be in the Bill so that we may know where we are.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.596.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.600.0", "colnum": "600", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "The whole point is that in the event of war this Force will be expanded to something comparable to that in the last war—possibly up to 900,000. In those circumstances, supposing the right hon. Gentleman commanded a battalion of the Home Guard, he would have a Force of, say, about 1,000 men.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.600.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.600.1", "colnum": "600", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "n. Gentleman whether he considers that at this time it is desirable to proceed with a Bill of this character. I have already agreed that a time may come when it is essential to do so, but only the other day we had a speech from the Foreign Secretary indicating his desire to solve international problems by negotiations. The United Nations organisation is meeting in Paris. There is a new atmosphere.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.600.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.626.1", "colnum": "626", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Ian Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Ian Fraser", "preceding_text": "repared to arm themselves. This modest Measure is a demonstration by His Majesty's Government that they are continuing the process begun by the right hon. Gentleman and his friends, and are carrying it a stage further. It seems to me that the speech of the right hon. Gentleman was the speech of a man who felt that he dare not oppose this Bill, but wanted, if possible, to smear it at its beginning.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.626.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.677.4", "colnum": "677", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Far more important.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "n telling us why he has changed his mind as well as his side in this matter. I want to know about these geographical divisions of the country. The right hon. Gentleman did not try to justify them. Why is there to be this build-up of the Home Guard in one particular part of Britain? Let the right hon. Gentleman look to his left, where he will be told that Scotstoun is just as important as Skegness.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.677.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.678.1", "colnum": "678", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Strachey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Strachey", "preceding_text": "ng the Debate, is airborne invasion, and that that is one in regard to which it is more realistic to look for some assistance at all events from the Home Guard. The Secretary of State rather twitted us for thinking in terms of the last war, but surely this provision of the Home Guard in the east of the country, and not in the west, seems to be harking back almost to a time previous to the air age.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.678.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.686.1", "colnum": "686", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Like 1934.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "Certainly. What we shall do is to put our view on what is the best way in which the country's defences can be organised.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.686.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.687.1", "colnum": "687", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "hould have thought that I had endeavoured to make that clear. So long as it is the case, as he himself said very clearly in introducing this Bill, that the Secretary of State for War does not consider war imminent, we do not think it wise to pass to the enrolment of the Home Guard. Therefore, while we shall not divide the House on this Bill on Second Reading because we do not oppose the principle—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.687.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.690.0", "colnum": "690", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Do you want a united country?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "preceding_text": "I am merely dealing with the criticism that the timing is wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.690.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.691.0", "colnum": "691", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "preceding_text": "I will come to that later, but it seems to me that the most important criticism was the question of timing and I have spent this part of my speech in answering that criticism. If hon. Members opposite say that this part of the general defence programme is not necessary, are they going to argue that recruiting for the Regular Services is not necessary?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.691.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.691.2", "colnum": "691", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "preceding_text": " Gentleman the Member for Easington (Mr. Shinwell) and also by the hon. Gentleman the Member for Kilmarnock (Mr. Ross)—was that of competition with the Civil Defence services. The Civil Defence services have had since November, 1949, to enlist their people, and I think it is fairly reasonable to assume that if they have not enlisted between then and now they are not going to enlist in them at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.691.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.691.2", "colnum": "691", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No urgency.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "preceding_text": "(Mr. Ross)—was that of competition with the Civil Defence services. The Civil Defence services have had since November, 1949, to enlist their people, and I think it is fairly reasonable to assume that if they have not enlisted between then and now they are not going to enlist in them at all. [ Interruption. ] Well, they have had very nearly two years to do it. What is the reason holding them back?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.691.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.696.2", "colnum": "696", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "ns was considered as a matter of some urgency, and while we were considering them I wrote a letter to Sir Vincent Tewson giving him a broad outline of the scheme. I said that we could discuss the details later with the T.U.C. through the National Joint Advisory Council. I had an answer from him yesterday saying that the T.U.C. would make use of the machinery of the National Joint Advisory Council.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.696.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.696.4", "colnum": "696", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not answer them?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hutchison", "preceding_text": "inquiries tomorrow, when he will find that my right hon. Friend is correct. The framework and nucleus which is planned in this Bill is to enable us more quickly to raise a citizen Army such as we had in the last war. We shall have snatched some precious days and weeks, as my right hon. Friend indicated, out of the time-table of an emergency. The Bill has been subject to criticism naturally enough.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.696.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-22", "file": "debates1951-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "6c924dbb7656eafa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.698.2", "colnum": "698", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "And the date", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "Before the hon. Gentleman finishes his speech, would he clear up the point about consultation with the T.U.C., for consultation must be a two-way traffic? The impression has been given that the Government have merely notified the T.U.C. Could we have the reply of the T.U.C. to the letter of the Secretary of State for War?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-22a.698.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.758.1", "colnum": "758", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Pannell", "preceding_text": " whatever, because local authorities are not likely to enter into any new contracts with any great enthusiasm while this sort of thing hangs over their heads. And what about housing in the course of erection? That is one of the considerations which we must bring in, because loan consents do not coincide with the commencement of a project; very often one starts on balances, and the consents follow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.758.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.759.3", "colnum": "759", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "Despite the fact that the hon. Member is on a local authority, he presumably does not know the local authority facts of life, because usually, in formal consultations with the Ministry, one gets consents and the sanctions follow afterwards. But all this now goes by the board. The important point to remember is that nowhere so far—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.759.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.759.3", "colnum": "759", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "borne by contributions from the local rates? This is very important, because if that is the idea the Minister will be surprised at the warmth of the reception he receives from local authorities. I speak as one who has represented them in this sort of negotiation. The greatest prime concern of local authorities is the rising costs of the services they administer, while their revenue remains static.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.759.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.799.1", "colnum": "799", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He is coming back.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "he Exchequer did not say anything like what the Minister of State for Economic Affairs has suggested. I should like to read some of the things that the Chancellor said, and I will gladly give way to the Minister of State if he wishes to interrupt me at any time in order to tell me where he thinks —I hope that the right hon. Gentleman is not leaving us. Perhaps he has gone to get a copy of HANSARD.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.799.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.800.0", "colnum": "800", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Great and grave.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "I did not give a programme of reductions such as the Chancellor said it would be a sign of levity to give. What I did was to repeat what the Chancellor said, which was that economies would have to be made—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.800.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.800.0", "colnum": "800", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "I did not give a programme of reductions such as the Chancellor said it would be a sign of levity to give. What I did was to repeat what the Chancellor said, which was that economies would have to be made—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Great and grave.\"] He indicated that there would have to be serious economies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.800.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.802.3", "colnum": "802", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Houses\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "We are dealing with a Bill, and we have had a discussion as to loans to local authorities who are not the local authorities through which social services—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.802.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.814.1", "colnum": "814", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. R. Mitchison", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"I thought poverty had been abolished?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. R. Mitchison", "preceding_text": "f the country the problem is aggravated by the neighbourhood of large towns. The difficulty is that the rural worker finds himself increasingly unable to afford a council house in the rural area and the council houses tend to be occupied by someone living in the neighbouring town. That this is so is clear enough. We have houses built and we find workers on the land literally unable to occupy them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.814.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.820.3", "colnum": "820", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "ortunity I am constantly offering him to say just what he meant to say, just what it implies, just what he knows about the statement he made, and where the cuts are to take place, and in what services. This is not one of those controversial problems. When I go to Oldham at the week-end I have to interview people who, week after week, have been putting their names down for council houses for years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.820.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.823.0", "colnum": "823", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Lipton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Lipton", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Can we have it made quite clear what exactly was said by the right hon. Gentleman? In the recollection of most of us he said \"cuts.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.823.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.823.2", "colnum": "823", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "I am much obliged, Mr. Speaker. None of us wants to prolong the debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.823.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.832.2", "colnum": "832", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ralph Assheton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ralph Assheton", "preceding_text": "only for two minutes to deal with two points made by hon. Members opposite. One of my neighbours, an hon. Gentleman representing a Lancashire constituency, sitting on the Front Bench opposite below the Gangway, said that hon. Members on this side of the House were not taking an interest in this debate. I have noticed that there have been just as many hon. Members present on this side of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.832.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.832.2", "colnum": "832", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ralph Assheton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ralph Assheton", "preceding_text": "id that hon. Members on this side of the House were not taking an interest in this debate. I have noticed that there have been just as many hon. Members present on this side of the House—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]. Yes, I have taken the trouble on several occasions to count them. If hon. Members will do so now, they will find that there are more hon. Members present on this side than there are on that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.832.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.833.3", "colnum": "833", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I did not hear any offensive term, and I should be very much surprised to hear it from that quarter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.833.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-23", "file": "debates1951-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "849d02e031830fb0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.835.9", "colnum": "835", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JUDICIAL OFFICES (SALARIES. &c.) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Lionel Heald)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Lionel Heald)", "preceding_text": "nd believe that I shall have the full support of hon. and right hon. Members opposite on this Bill. It has been indicated today that certain hon. Members opposite are to express other views, but I hope and believe I shall have very valuable and strong assistance in resisting anything they may say. I believe that any detailed reference to the Clauses of the Bill would be out of place at this stage—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-23a.835.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.851.6", "colnum": "851", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Price", "preceding_text": "Is it not a fact that in other places where tramways have been discontinued it has usually been found that the cost of taking up the tram tracks exceeds the value of the steel that is recovered?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.851.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.875.10", "colnum": "875", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; BRITISH PERSONNEL, AUSTRIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. Silverman", "preceding_text": "Can the right hon. Gentleman explain to the House why it should not be in the public interest to know how many of our Forces are stationed in Austria?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.875.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.889.1", "colnum": "889", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPANESE TREATY OF PEACE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"India has not signed the Treaty.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Younger", "preceding_text": "It is quite correct that the Chinese were never consulted, but I think that all the south Asian countries or, at any rate, the majority of them, were agreed, and India above all others—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.889.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.902.1", "colnum": "902", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPANESE TREATY OF PEACE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ellis Smith", "preceding_text": "kinds of committees in the United States during that time. Those of us who obtain American newspapers daily and read them—I emphasise \"read them\"—will have seen that those papers have been discussing this Treaty and its effect during the past two or three years, yet this is the first occasion that this House; representing a great industrial country, has had an opportunity of discussing the Treaty.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.902.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.904.0", "colnum": "904", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPANESE TREATY OF PEACE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Was this pre-war?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "preceding_text": "of us have been through this kind of thing between the wars and we know the effects. Here are a few extracts from one of the latest American books entitled, \"Aspects of Labour Problems\" by the International Institute of Pacific Relations: Union-busting tactics on the part of employers were not a major factor in Japan. They were not necessary; the police did the job. That is democratic development.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.904.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.904.0", "colnum": "904", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPANESE TREATY OF PEACE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Read it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Smith", "preceding_text": " the Japanese from organising like they should do. When the Americans had assisted them in a certain direction a gentleman named Mr. Dodge imposed an economic policy which prevented them from organising as they should. I wish I had time to read this extract, because it should really go on the record, but I want to be as brief as possible and, therefore, I shall confine myself to these few remarks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.904.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.924.1", "colnum": "924", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPANESE TREATY OF PEACE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "otecting themselves from just the very things which made them so unfair competitors with other workers all over the world. I am amazed that the attempt was not made. I cannot understand why the attempt was not made, unless the explanation is that here, although dealing nominally with Japanese industry, we were not really dealing with it at all. Here you have American industry, which was providing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.924.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.992.0", "colnum": "992", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPANESE TREATY OF PEACE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "—and to that declaration I adhere. The hon. Gentleman has tried to take me a little further than I went and I do not want to go so far as he wished to take me. If he will look up the record, a declaration was made on behalf of the Labour Government—I think I made it myself—and to that declaration I would adhere, although we are in opposition. It is the case that it would be desired by many people—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.992.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.998.1", "colnum": "998", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JAPANESE TREATY OF PEACE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Was it the Schuman Plan or a human plan?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "site, for I remember the number of times on platforms in recent weeks when I have been told I was selling the economic destiny of my country to the French. I was a little surprised that the right hon. Gentleman was prepared to sell it to the Japanese. I thought there might be something in it. I caused the very fullest inquiries to be made. I searched high and low to find where the plan had got to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.998.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1010.0", "colnum": "1010", "heading": "HOME GUARD [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for War (Mr. Antony Head)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for War (Mr. Antony Head)", "preceding_text": ". I can tell him exactly who is concerned. There is the Exchequer and Audit Department, who are concerned with the cost of audit. There is the Treasury Solicitor, who is concerned with the cost of certain legal consultations. There is the Stationery Office, which is concerned with stationery and printing. There is the Central Office of Information, which is concerned with publicity and recruiting—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1010.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1013.3", "colnum": "1013", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Works (Mr. David Eccles)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is still a gamble.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Works (Mr. David Eccles)", "preceding_text": "ements for re-opening next April. I could not forget the early history of the Gardens this year when gross mismanagement resulted in a disgraceful waste of public money. As I see it, those blunders, or most of them, were the direct consequence of leaving decisions too late. Nobody wants that to happen again. On the other hand, a quick decision to continue the Gardens must be something of a gamble—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1013.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1013.3", "colnum": "1013", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Works (Mr. David Eccles)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Works (Mr. David Eccles)", "preceding_text": "erimental period of two years &#x2026; and that the consent of the Council should be required to any extension beyond two years. The Government found, therefore, that they were free to decide whether to go on, and if they did so decide, then the L.C.C. would, on certain conditions, agree with their decision. Now I turn to last season's results. Both attendance and profits outstripped expectations—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1013.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1020.2", "colnum": "1020", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"Toryism let loose.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": "h the beds and the borders of a London park. I set great store on improving the flowers next year. I did not myself think that they were very good this year. Secondly, it is good to have a legitimate excuse—I do not say to make a fool of one's self—but to let oneself go. It might be that City life has become much too conventional and inhibited by the fear of a sour look from one of the neighbours.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1020.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1021.1", "colnum": "1021", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. R. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. R. Stokes", "preceding_text": "I find myself in a somewhat unusual position because I had hoped to introduce this Bill myself. But, be that as it may, I welcome the way in which the Minister of Works has introduced it and the fact that the Tory Party as a whole, maybe with some exceptions, seem to have become such complete converts to something we advocated doing some months ago and which they voted against.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1021.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1021.3", "colnum": "1021", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman and his friends voted solidly against me when I tried to get the Gardens going and get some money.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1021.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1021.3", "colnum": "1021", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stokes", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman and his friends voted solidly against me when I tried to get the Gardens going and get some money. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] All right, let it go. It does not really matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1021.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1026.1", "colnum": "1026", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Freda Corbet", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"At the taxpayers' expense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Freda Corbet", "preceding_text": "or the L.C.C., not only did the venture draw the crowds, but it drew the London crowds—sufficient crowds to make a pretty penny. Some of us on the L.C.C. who are perhaps cherishing ideas about future permanent gardens in London feel that venture may well help us towards their achievement. None of us is quite sure about all of it, but we favour the experiment which this Bill will enable us to make.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1026.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1041.1", "colnum": "1041", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Ian Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Ian Fraser", "preceding_text": "de of getting back this £1 million. But how? By persuading people to spend their money in these amusement enterprises. If they did not spend it here they would spend it at Southend, Brighton, Eastbourne, Lonsdale, Morecambe and Grange and all the other seaside resorts throughout the country. People living in Birmingham who take their families away each year, normally take them to a seaside resort.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1041.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1042.1", "colnum": "1042", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir I. Fraser", "preceding_text": "They have said that, but they did not speak for Morecambe and Lonsdale—and I can tell them that they are wrong. This Bill will take the bread out of the mouths of hotels and boarding-house keepers, amusement caterers, shopkeepers and all those who work for them—the ordinary man-in-the-street—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1043.1", "colnum": "1043", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. Nally", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. Nally", "preceding_text": "a feature writer. Morecambe has done very well, and there has never been so much money made in Morecambe as there has been made there in the last four and a half years, even allowing for the imagination in their Income Tax returns, by the boarding-house keepers and restaurant proprietors and the rest who are the hon. Gentleman's constituents. What we are discussing tonight is the Festival Gardens.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1043.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1045.0", "colnum": "1045", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And the Tower of Blackpool.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nally", "preceding_text": "onsideration over such places as Bilston, which I represent, or Manchester, where I live. Londoners, who do not like being in London, should remember that it is still our capital city, and that it has a duty to perform for the rest of the country. To suggest that it is a shocking thing to have an amusement park in London is as ridiculous as saying that we ought not to maintain the Tower of London.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1045.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1064.1", "colnum": "1064", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McAdden", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not true.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McAdden", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. I am sure he will agree that it is an important point. No figure has been given of what maintenance is to cost. I think we ought to recognise that it is likely to be heavy. Hon. Members who have taken the trouble to go to the Gardens where, incidentally, there was more rock sold off points than there was in Southend or Brighton—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1064.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1066.5", "colnum": "1066", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": ", but the hon. Gentleman did not say that. I took down what he did say, and he did not say that. He made it quite clear that the Festival spirit had not saved us on 25th October. That is what he meant and that is what he said. What he had in mind was the idea that we had been planning the Festival of Britain and the Festival Gardens presumably to coincide with the General Election on 25th October—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1066.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-26", "file": "debates1951-11-26a.xml", "sha256": "9d19785e0a707f09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1069.1", "colnum": "1069", "heading": "FESTIVAL PLEASURE GARDENS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Teeling", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Teeling", "preceding_text": "ve cut down on Brighton to go to Battersea. My hon. Friend the Member for the Isle of Thanet did not think that people would forgo spending a day in Brighton just because they went for a day to the Festival Gardens. But he must remember that the vast number of people who visit Brighton do not go for a week at a time. They cannot afford such a thing. Most of the people who go down are day trippers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-26a.1069.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1109.3", "colnum": "1109", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I believe the Civil Aviation Department have a certain number of planes which are used for various testing purposes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1109.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1113.3", "colnum": "1113", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Great and grave.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "I said the other day that there would have to be important economies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1113.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1113.5", "colnum": "1113", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Great and grave.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Salter", "preceding_text": "I cannot go beyond what has already been said: that it is a Government decision that there should be important economies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1113.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1124.3", "colnum": "1124", "heading": "CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that the Leader of the House, who is responsible for the conduct of business, is not himself able to answer this Question, could his right hon. Friend the Secretary of State give us an indication from the Front Bench?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1124.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1134.1", "colnum": "1134", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Major Legge-Bourke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Legge-Bourke", "preceding_text": "servists. On that occasion, I drew the right hon. Gentleman's attention to the fact that as I understood the Bill which we were then discussing the War Office were reserving the right to call up women before men on the Reserve. I remember that when I protested against this power being in the possession of the War Office the hon. Member for Coventry, East (Mr. Crossman) referred to me as a \"Blimp.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1134.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1151.4", "colnum": "1151", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "All hon. Members are aware how quaint, grotesque and fantastic are the ideas of the hon. Member for Croydon, East—we who have been accustomed to him for a long time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1151.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1151.4", "colnum": "1151", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "All hon. Members are aware how quaint, grotesque and fantastic are the ideas of the hon. Member for Croydon, East—we who have been accustomed to him for a long time. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Too long.\"] It is just as well he should indulge in these outpourings occasionally, so that the trade unions of the country may know exactly where he stands. Now I will address myself to the subject of the Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1151.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1156.4", "colnum": "1156", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is what we are doing.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "When one is discussing something which affects approximately the general economic situation of the people, one consults those people who have some expert knowledge of that subject.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1156.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1157.0", "colnum": "1157", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": " with all sorts of people, but that is not what we are discussing today. The hon. Gentleman has not even read the Amendment. The Amendment says that we cannot start it without consulting a body which has no responsibility in this matter. That, I think, is a constitutional outrage. If we put this Amendment in the Bill, we must put it into other Bills, and the sovereignty of Parliament is destroyed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1157.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1157.6", "colnum": "1157", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": " must put similar Amendments in every Bill. It is very difficult to find any Bill in which we could not justify consultations with certain outside bodies. This is not the only important outside body. This is a body which represents some of the trade unions, but not all; and some of the employers, but not all. Three-quarters of the people who join the Home Guard will not be members of trade unions—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1157.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1157.6", "colnum": "1157", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"One in two.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": " outside bodies. This is not the only important outside body. This is a body which represents some of the trade unions, but not all; and some of the employers, but not all. Three-quarters of the people who join the Home Guard will not be members of trade unions—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—Oh, yes. What is the relationship of male trade unionists to the male population? About one in four or one in three.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1157.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1159.5", "colnum": "1159", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Williams", "preceding_text": "I was not registered at birth. Owing to a family bereavement, my father forgot about it for nearly five months, and was nearly prosecuted for it. I have never known an Amendment to be put forward which was so silly, so stupid and so unconstitutional.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1159.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1163.0", "colnum": "1163", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": " this matter. It is vitally essential if this experiment is to be made to work—I should have thought that everybody in every part of the House wanted that to happen—that there must be consultation. Clearly, it is our duty, if we have got any doubts about the Secretary of State for War and his intentions and ability to understand what we are driving at, that we should insist on these consultations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1163.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1170.0", "colnum": "1170", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Patrick Spens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Patrick Spens", "preceding_text": "use of the Bill. The very first words of the Bill are: There shall be established a force. We have passed that Clause and we have approved of it on Second Reading, but the Amendment is now going to modify it by providing that no such Force shall be established unless something happens. That, of course, is to all intents and purposes a complete negativing of the first, operative Clause of the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1170.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1170.0", "colnum": "1170", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Patrick Spens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Patrick Spens", "preceding_text": "osest consultation but, I hope, the deepest sympathy from everybody connected with the T.U.C. I hope that will be obtained by the Government. As I understood from what my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for War said on Second Reading, the Government will undertake that every form of Regulation and detail will be fully discussed and there will be full consultation with everybody concerned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1170.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1172.0", "colnum": "1172", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I am extremely sorry to interrupt the hon. and learned Member, but he is asking himself a lot of questions and then furnishing the answers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1172.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1172.0", "colnum": "1172", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "rrupt the hon. and learned Member, but he is asking himself a lot of questions and then furnishing the answers. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"] What he is maintaining throughout his speech is that there are no Acts of Parliament providing for consultation between the appropriate body set up by the Government, or the Government itself, and bodies outside. The hon. and learned Gentleman is quite wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1172.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1177.1", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"0h.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "ad to raise this matter because of the very unsatisfactory reply which we had during our discussions on the Second Reading of the Bill. It was because of the unsatisfactory nature of the reply that was then given that my hon. Friends have put down the Amendment. We feel, quite sincerely, that the party which the right hon. Gentleman represents has no sympathy towards the trade union movement, and—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1177.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1177.1", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "reply that was then given that my hon. Friends have put down the Amendment. We feel, quite sincerely, that the party which the right hon. Gentleman represents has no sympathy towards the trade union movement, and—[HON. MEMBERS: \"0h.\"] Certainly, from the views which have been expressed by the hon. Member for Croydon, East (Sir H. Williams), and others today, and from the history of the Tory Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1177.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1177.4", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "We ought to see the position which the Committee have now reached, largely through the agency of the vigorous constitutional intervention of the hon. Member for Croydon, East (Sir H. Williams).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1177.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1179.1", "colnum": "1179", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": " is wise at present to go to enrolment. We are all agreed that it is wise to go up to that point, but we are most strongly disagreed as to whether it is wise to go right to that point. We shall argue that on later Clauses of the Bill, but everything that has been said today confirms us in the view that it is madness to go to the point of enrolment without the fullest consultation with the N.J.A.C.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1179.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1179.1", "colnum": "1179", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He said so.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Strachey", "preceding_text": "e to go up to that point, but we are most strongly disagreed as to whether it is wise to go right to that point. We shall argue that on later Clauses of the Bill, but everything that has been said today confirms us in the view that it is madness to go to the point of enrolment without the fullest consultation with the N.J.A.C. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] But the Secretary of State disputes that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1179.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1182.0", "colnum": "1182", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "d to me as the debate proceeded that we on this side of the Committee were more than justified in submitting the Amendment. Finally, I would remind the right hon. Gentleman, because I told him in my initial speech that we are approaching this matter in an objective spirit and with no desire to be particularly controversial about it, and I do not think there has been undue controversy on this side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1182.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1185.1", "colnum": "1185", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "No, I am afraid the right hon. Gentleman has got it all wrong. I am sorry, but it is better to clear up this misundersanding.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1185.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1187.1", "colnum": "1187", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "I cannot answer for the ability of the right hon. Gentleman to trust, or not to trust, people who give him assurances. I am now quite clear about what he means. He wishes for an assurance that between the passage of this Bill and actual enrolment there shall be consultation, that this consultation is taking place before enrolment starts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1187.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1187.1", "colnum": "1187", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "s tantamount to saying that we ourselves have put this in the Bill because we are so worried that this good relationship between the N.J.A.C. and the War Office which existed in the past would now become bad. It is drawing attention to the fact that there is this feeling. The other thing I would say to hon. Members is: Let them not, because they are worked up by what has become a political matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1187.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1210.0", "colnum": "1210", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"But he is not present.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": "not become on duty until he is present. I said, in answering the hon. Gentleman, that while the man is on duty he will be subject to military law. I should have thought that that was quite clear. If, while the parade is going on, he suddenly takes it into his mind to slip off home he will obviously be breaking the law, for he will not be complying with the order. I should have thought that was so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1210.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1213.1", "colnum": "1213", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"In peacetime.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": "The hon. and learned Member for Northampton (Mr. Paget) put a fairly involved argument in moving this Amendment. I had hoped I had made it clear why it was necessary to have members of the Home Guard subject to military law when on duty in war-time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1213.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1216.1", "colnum": "1216", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": " is with me when I say that this has arisen because of the tangle that the Government have got us into. I think that the reason he felt that I had got myself into a tangle was because he was incapable of understanding my argument. Frankly, we do not expect the Solicitor-General to know very much about the law. We have heard him before, and that is why we were a little surprised by his appointment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1216.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1221.4", "colnum": "1221", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "He is going to reinforce the battalions on the other side. I have no doubt that we shall have the benefit of his observations probably about three o'clock or five o'clock in the morning. We cannot tell.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1221.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1221.4", "colnum": "1221", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "e other side. I have no doubt that we shall have the benefit of his observations probably about three o'clock or five o'clock in the morning. We cannot tell. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] We are very anxious to hear what the hon. Gentleman has to say, and we shall just go on in our time and not at the dictation of hon. Members opposite. I am a little tired of the bullying tactics of hon. Members opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1221.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1221.4", "colnum": "1221", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " in this assembly to be intimidated by Tory arrogance and ignorance. As for interruptions, senseless and sometimes inaudible, from the other side, they leave me very cold indeed. Having indulged in that parenthesis I can return to the hon. Member opposite, who is by no means a parenthesis. He indulged in a little eloquence on the subject of the alleged irresponsibility of Members on these benches.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1221.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1222.0", "colnum": "1222", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "he conditions that are laid down. Are we to understand from the right hon. Gentleman opposite that it is intended that when the Home Guard forces are enrolled they are to sign a document subjecting themselves to all the rigours of military law and discipline, and subsequently, in the event of an offence or an alleged offence, to court-martial procedure? Is the right hon. Gentleman suggesting that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1221.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1222.2", "colnum": "1222", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "n that the attitude of the men who are going to volunteer for this Force concerning the horrors of military law is quite different to his own. They know very well what it is. They know very well that in the last war there were more than a million men in the Home Guard and there were only 200 cases of court-martial during the whole war. Why is the right hon. Gentleman playing this up in such a way?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1222.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1223.0", "colnum": "1223", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He has said it to you.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Hon. Members can see the effect of the eloquence of the hon. Member for Southgate and of that frenzied excitement. It has infected the right hon. Gentleman. This is a remarkable metamorphosis. We were led to believe that the right hon. Gentleman was pleasant and reasonable, and so persuasive that he would never quarrel with anybody —indeed, would never say \"Boo to a goose.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1223.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1223.0", "colnum": "1223", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "nterests of the men for whom the hon. Gentleman below the Gangway professes so much concern, those persons who are to enrol in the Home Guard, in their true interests, we ought to know far more about what is proposed by the Government and what the Government's real intentions are, before this Committee is asked to accept the proposal that has been made. Finally, we shall have to divide against it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1223.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1225.1", "colnum": "1225", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Divide.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Where horrors are concerned perhaps the less said the better.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1225.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1231.1", "colnum": "1231", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member is not very well acquainted with military matters—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1231.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1231.3", "colnum": "1231", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "No, I think it best—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1231.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1232.1", "colnum": "1232", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "exactly under what circumstances a member of the Home Guard may be court-martialled and for what offences, and exactly what is going to happen. I have had to defend soldiers before. On one occasion I had to defend soldiers who trespassed on military property and they were threatened with eviction. They came to me and I successfully defended these men. I can foresee that if any of these Boy Scouts—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1232.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1247.2", "colnum": "1247", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bellenger", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They did in the past.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bellenger", "preceding_text": "this suspicion which was somewhat at variance with that of some of my hon. Friends. I do not know whether, if they were incorporated in the Bill, these words would give the legal guarantee for which my hon. Friends are asking. I still do not believe any Government would dare to use Armed Forces of the Crown, such as the Home Guard will be, in the way some of my hon. Friends seem to think possible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1247.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1254.1", "colnum": "1254", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pitman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pitman", "preceding_text": "I will give way in a moment—in which the issue is clearly one of civil disturbance—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1254.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1254.2", "colnum": "1254", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Popplewell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Popplewell", "preceding_text": "nterpretation of civil disorder? The case I have mentioned was an industrial dispute which was linked with civil disorder, at which the Riot Act was read. We have seen sufficient of industrial dispute being linked up very quickly with civil disorder before the men actually engaged in these disputes had ever thought of such a thing. Therefore, I say that the Home Guard is not a Regular Armed Force.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1254.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1264.0", "colnum": "1264", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Intimidation.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "I think the chances of finding a satisfactory wording which will meet the wishes of the Committee will be reduced to some extent if we continue with this particular discussion, because I have assured the Committee that I will look into this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1264.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1265.2", "colnum": "1265", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "what one would expect from an assembly of this kind. It is consistent with what I have said throughout; that we have approached this matter in an impartial and objective spirit. I beg the right hon. Gentleman to agree to my proposition, because it will give him ample time to make up his mind on further steps that require to be taken, and it will enable hon. Members to go home at a convenient time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1265.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1266.0", "colnum": "1266", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Health (Mr. Harry Crookshank)", "preceding_text": "When we moved the suspension earlier this afternoon, I had understood, through the usual channels, that it was an agreed Motion. There was no Division, and the understanding was that those with whom we carry on these conversations were prepared to let the Bill through today, in view of the urgency for it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1266.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1269.2", "colnum": "1269", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, they have not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "That may be so, but the point is that sufficient arguments have been adduced—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1269.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1270.0", "colnum": "1270", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Or in war.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "Might I perhaps intervene? The hon. Member is really distorting this matter. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Perhaps the Committee will bear with me for a moment while I explain. What I said to hon. Members—it will be within their recollection—was that they were worried about the Home Guard being used in peace for intervening in industrial disputes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1270.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1271.3", "colnum": "1271", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Davies", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Davies", "preceding_text": "Despite the amount of knowledge which the Leader of the House seems to possess, I should like to say that he has not heard one half of the argument that could be put forward from this side of the Committee. Something slipped out of his mouth when the Secretary of State for War was at that Despatch Box that made me very alert.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1271.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1272.8", "colnum": "1272", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "The Leader of the House has not been with us, I am sure for perfectly good reasons, but those hon. Members who have will agree that we have worked hard, we have worked cooperatively—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1272.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1273.0", "colnum": "1273", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "n by the Secretary of State. I have some personal feeling about the matter before the Committee. I started it on Second Reading, and the Secretary of State was then kind enough to say I had a dirty mind. If I had, then so has he, and presumably every other hon. Gentleman, because they have now agreed that I was right. It is, I think, important on this particular Clause, because it goes far beyond—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1273.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1275.0", "colnum": "1275", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "st on our going through with this matter in this atmosphere and in these circumstances rather than postpone the Adjournment of the House for a day or two, then upon them will lie the responsibility of convening what was an unanimous and a non-contentious matter into one which is being chivvied from one side to the other merely on the question of Government prestige, on the one side, or Opposition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1275.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1279.0", "colnum": "1279", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "Commons, in the words of the Prime Minister, as the \"Palladium of Liberty.\" We have reached a position in a Bill of great importance, to which all of us have given a substantial measure of support and in respect of which a large number of Amendments from this side of the Committee have rendered improvements in elucidation and otherwise. We have reached a stage in which we have now passed Clause 1.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1279.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1284.0", "colnum": "1284", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "e very desirous of availing themselves, after the Committee stage has been concluded, of placing Amendments on the Order Paper for the Report stage. That, I agree, is making some progress. But on the first point—that is to say, going on throughout the night, as, apparently, we shall have to do in order to complete the Committee stage—I think that the Government are asking too much of hon. Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1284.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1284.0", "colnum": "1284", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "n order to complete the Committee stage—I think that the Government are asking too much of hon. Members. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Yes—not only of hon. Members on this side of the Committee; I am quite satisfied that hon. Members opposite are not enthusiastic about remaining throughout the night. Some of them are already going off to sleep—look at the hon. Member for Edinburgh, South (Sir W. Darling).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1284.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1284.0", "colnum": "1284", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The right hon. Gentleman should wake up the Member on his own side.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "astic about remaining throughout the night. Some of them are already going off to sleep—look at the hon. Member for Edinburgh, South (Sir W. Darling). [ Interruption .] I am sure that the hon. Member for Kidderminster (Mr. Nabarro), whatever else he may think of me, would never regard me as soporific. I will give him ample evidence before we have gone very far that I am not in the least soporific.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1284.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1284.0", "colnum": "1284", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ore we have gone very far that I am not in the least soporific. [An HON. MEMBER: \"The right hon. Gentleman should wake up the Member on his own side.\"] I wish to be quite fair. The atmosphere has affected my hon. Friend just as much as it has affected hon. Members on the other side of the Committee. Surely that fortifies my contention that this is not the time to proceed with important Amendments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1284.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1304.0", "colnum": "1304", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The ex-Minister of Defence.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "e Guard to which they belong is mustered. That is the Amendment put down by the Opposition Front Bench. 12.45 a.m. I did undertake perfectly seriously to find a formula or words which would apply to that. What the hon. Gentleman has down is something totally different to the Amendment, and if he wants me to go further I would point out that during the Second Reading debate the Minister of Defence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1304.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1313.3", "colnum": "1313", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. I. Mikardo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. I. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "hich you used that you were saying that at the time the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne raised his point of order you were under a certain impression, but that in the interval which had elapsed between then and the time you were replying to my hon. Friend the Member for Maldon you had corrected that impression, and I understood you to be suggesting that you had changed your view about the matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1313.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1321.5", "colnum": "1321", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "lame for what has transpired in the last hour or so, the fact remains that there is still a great deal of business to be transacted. I am bound to warn the Leader of the House, with the greatest respect, and indeed with a large measure of goodwill towards him. After all, he and I are old Parliamentary friends, and understand one another. I know that he is practised in all the Parliamentary tricks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1321.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1321.5", "colnum": "1321", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "contain themselves. What I am suggesting is that this is hardly the time to proceed with the discussion of important business. I warn the Leader of the House that if he will persist in his obdurate attitude of trying to get this business through at a time like this he may find himself sitting on that bench, and we may find ourselves sitting on these benches, at about, shall I say, midday tomorrow—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1321.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1375.9", "colnum": "1375", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "It is a statement of fact.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1375.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1375.9", "colnum": "1375", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "It is a statement of fact. [HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"] There were periods when we were not discussing the Clauses in the Bill. It will be for the benefit of the Committee if we get on now to some of the matters that have been raised by hon. Members. They are very touchy about my first remark, which was not offensive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1375.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1379.9", "colnum": "1379", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Before we part with this Clause—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1379.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1380.4", "colnum": "1380", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "If the right hon. Gentleman had not been too hasty, he would have learned that I was coming to precisely that point. My hon. Friends expected the Attorney-General to reply, but the right hon. Gentleman endeavoured to reply, but completely failed, at any rate on some of the points that had been raised.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1380.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1381.1", "colnum": "1381", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "further consideration by those associated with me, it was decided to make it a permanent post, and General Dempsey, who was promoted to this post, conceived the notion that the Home Guard should be established very soon. But that was not the view of the military experts. General Dempsey was alone in that respect. The military experts did not consider the time opportune for creating the Home Guard.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1381.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1384.0", "colnum": "1384", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Lionel Heald)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Lionel Heald)", "preceding_text": "I shall not detain the Committee for more than a moment or two—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1384.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1384.0", "colnum": "1384", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Lionel Heald)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Detain the Committee? \"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Lionel Heald)", "preceding_text": "I shall not detain the Committee for more than a moment or two—[ Interruption. ]—that is, if I am allowed to start.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1384.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1", "colnum": "1389", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak for yourself.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ous Motion. 5.30 a.m. I see the Leader of the House is present and I should like to ask him, before I actually move my Motion, whether he would now consider it opportune to make a statement on the Government's intentions as regards the remainder of the Amendments. He may feel that the time has arrived to advise Members to go home, and I have no doubt that hon. Members on all sides of the Committee", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1", "colnum": "1389", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Dull speeches.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ments. He may feel that the time has arrived to advise Members to go home, and I have no doubt that hon. Members on all sides of the Committee[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak for yourself.\"] —would welcome the opportunity. I should have thought that Members opposite, who have protested, should be the last to make a protest. I have been watching them very carefully, and they have been yawning their heads off.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1", "colnum": "1389", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Your speeches.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " \"Speak for yourself.\"] —would welcome the opportunity. I should have thought that Members opposite, who have protested, should be the last to make a protest. I have been watching them very carefully, and they have been yawning their heads off. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Dull speeches.\"] They now inform me that the reason for their yawning was the nature of the speeches made in the course of the discussions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1", "colnum": "1389", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "tuation. I wonder if he would care to have a consultation with the Patronage Secretary, because he also is concerned about it and is, incidentally, looking a bit sickly himself. I wonder whether the two of them, sickening over with a pale cast of thought, would co-operate for a moment or two and then inform the Committee what are the intentions of the Government? As they are not ready to respond —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1", "colnum": "1389", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ESTABLISHMENT AND STATUS OF HOME GUARD.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "e art of interruption when he sat on this side of the Committee. However, other places, other manners—or was it \"Other times, other manners\"? The right hon. Gentleman can have it as he wishes. I gather from what the Leader of the House said—that he did not want to interrupt me—that he would like to speak after I have sat down, in which case, perhaps, I had better sit down before moving the Motion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1389.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1405.4", "colnum": "1405", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Adams", "preceding_text": " the more ample treatment given by Lord Haldane in 1907. I appeal to the Under-Secretary, although under your Ruling, Mr. Hopkin Morris, which I readily obey, I am not allowed to proceed any further in that direction. I hope that the Under-Secretary will take advantage, in the fastnesses of the War Office, of reading the excellent Territorial and Reserve Forces Act, 1907, and will see for himself—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1405.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1408.1", "colnum": "1408", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "result in the mustering of the Home Guard there? We must face this problem of delegated legislation, which seems to be of fundamental importance. In Clause 1 we are told that Orders in Council can be made that will virtually alter the law of the country. We were told by the Solicitor- General, I think inaccurately, that martial law is to apply in peace-time to everyone enrolling in the Home Guard—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1408.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1410.0", "colnum": "1410", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": " 1 we are told that Orders in Council can be made that will virtually alter the law of the country. We were told by the Solicitor- General, I think inaccurately, that martial law is to apply in peace-time to everyone enrolling in the Home Guard—[ Interruption .] Well, military law, but I think the term I used was a better one because it was to apply to civilians. Is it to apply to the Isle of Man?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1408.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1410.4", "colnum": "1410", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "re has been no communication at all with the Tynwald? Is it really the case that the House of Keys has never been asked for its views about this Bill, or the view of the Legislature about it? If that is so, I would really have to consider consulting with my right hon. Friends in order to see if we could not move the Adjournment of the House at this moment to raise this very sorry and discourteous—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1410.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1413.2", "colnum": "1413", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "at there seems to be considerable anxiety and misunderstanding about what it is for. This Bill was brought in to enable the United Kingdom to form this limited voluntary Home Guard now within the United Kingdom. As all hon. Members know, and as my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary reminded us before, it does not include the Isle of Man. We did not want to leave out the Isle of Man —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1413.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1416.0", "colnum": "1416", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "What the right hon. Gentleman said in a previous intervention was that he could not communicate, that he could not get the exceedingly important information about what consultations had taken place with the Isle of Man because the Home Secretary was not available.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1416.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1421.2", "colnum": "1421", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "representatives from nearly all constituencies in England, Scotland and Wales on the Home Guard Bill—as he has done by bringing it before the House—but having no consultations of any kind with the House of Representatives in the Isle of Man. He will actually consult the other place—not a democratic assembly at all—but the Isle of Man is not to be consulted before the Bill becomes a fait accompli .", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1421.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1423.2", "colnum": "1423", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "osal appears to me to be a reasonable one. Let it not be forgotten that we have sat here more than 15&#x00BD; hours, and it is a severe task for hon. Gentlemen to have to undertake. We have kept hon. and right hon. Gentlemen sitting on that bench during that time. Surely they will have to repair to their departments to undertake the tasks allotted to them. They must have some rest and nourishment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1423.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1423.2", "colnum": "1423", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Seventeen hours.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": ". We have kept hon. and right hon. Gentlemen sitting on that bench during that time. Surely they will have to repair to their departments to undertake the tasks allotted to them. They must have some rest and nourishment. [ Interruption .] One of my hon. Friends made a suggestion about red meat. That is quite out of order. So far as I know, there is no red meat in the Bill. Having sat for 15 hours—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1423.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1423.2", "colnum": "1423", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "d to them. They must have some rest and nourishment. [ Interruption .] One of my hon. Friends made a suggestion about red meat. That is quite out of order. So far as I know, there is no red meat in the Bill. Having sat for 15 hours—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Seventeen hours.\"] Is it 17 hours—as much as that? I feel just as fresh. I may have to make an appearance in the barber's shop downstairs when it opens.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1423.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2", "colnum": "1426", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2", "colnum": "1426", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You have not been here.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I am not in the least furious. I am rather surprised that the right hon. Gentleman should have gone out of his way to make such very rude remarks to my right hon. and hon. Friends in charge of the Bill. He accused one of lack of courtesy, another of casualness. I do not think those observations were deserved, and I felt I must say that, and I do say it, on behalf of my right hon. and hon. Friends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2", "colnum": "1426", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Paralysed.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "t the end sometimes, and not here, it does not make any difference. Indeed, the right hon. Gentleman has caught my eye several times when some of the remarks were passing across the Floor of the Chamber. The right hon. Gentleman complained of the rush. He said that everybody has been shocked at the rush which has gone on, and suggested that my hon. Friends were all in a state of shock at the rush.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2", "colnum": "1426", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "t everybody has been shocked at the rush which has gone on, and suggested that my hon. Friends were all in a state of shock at the rush. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Paralysed.\"] If the progress which has been made tonight is to be called \"rush,\" then that is a new form of language which might very well shock anybody. But, of course, the fact of the matter is that this is an important Bill and an urgent one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2", "colnum": "1426", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": " the other hand, we do, because we consider that the possibility of having a Home Guard, which is what this Bill sets out to do, is an essential link in our chain of preparedness. The defence programme having been accepted by all parties, we found on coming into office that there was what we consider to be a link missing in the chain, we thought it our immediate duty to bring it before Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1426.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1427.1", "colnum": "1427", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "We said in the Manifesto that we intended to set about having a Home Guard, but the urgency of it was, of course, that nothing had been done excepting—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1427.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1428.2", "colnum": "1428", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Next week.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "tting, and have the Report stage on Thursday and thereby facilitate the wish expressed by the Opposition. I think that with a little good will and possibly a little more speed than has been shown in recent hours that programme might well be carried out. If that is not done I do not see that hon. Members opposite can have an opportunity of seeing the Amendments on the Order Paper and have full time", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1428.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1430.4", "colnum": "1430", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, we are.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "We are not discussing another week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1430.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1432.0", "colnum": "1432", "heading": "Clause 2.—(APPLICATION TO ISLE OF MAN.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. M. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he now? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. M. Stewart", "preceding_text": "age through by a reasonable time. Anyone who turns to the Report of the earlier stages of this debate will see that that is so. 8.0 a.m. We were pleased when the Secretary of State for War announced his acceptance of the first Amendment moved from this side of the Committee, and things seemed to be going well until the deplorable intervention of the hon. Member for Croydon, East (Sir H. Williams)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1432.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1450.1", "colnum": "1450", "heading": "Clause 3.—(SHORT TITLE, INTERPRETATION AND COMMENCEMENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "This is another example of the complete inconsistency of the Government in presenting this Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1450.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1452.2", "colnum": "1452", "heading": "Clause 3.—(SHORT TITLE, INTERPRETATION AND COMMENCEMENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "With great respect, Mr. Hopkin Morris, when the hon. and learned Solicitor-General interrupted me with an offensive observation nothing was said from the Chair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1452.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1452.7", "colnum": "1452", "heading": "Clause 3.—(SHORT TITLE, INTERPRETATION AND COMMENCEMENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "If anything I have said appears to have offended the Chair I withdraw. I repeat, and with no desire to offend the Chair, when hon. Gentlemen opposite, and sometimes right hon. Gentlemen opposite, indulge in offensive observations about myself and my hon. and right hon. Friends we are entitled to reply. If they do not like it they can lump it. I hope that is clear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1452.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-27", "file": "debates1951-11-27a.xml", "sha256": "ef709105d5e4c2f3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1463.1", "colnum": "1463", "heading": "Clause 3.—(SHORT TITLE, INTERPRETATION AND COMMENCEMENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": " subsection (2, a ) in a way which is making this a declaratory law, and a declaratory military law. Let us try to visualise the sort of Regulations that will be made. I must again protest that every single sentence we have discussed on the Bill is a sentence on which we are given no information and in which we have no knowledge, and that we ought to know what we are discussing. We are discussing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-27a.1463.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1498.5", "colnum": "1498", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; KOREA (PRISONERS OF WAR)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Davies", "preceding_text": "Is not the matter contained in the Question sufficiently important for our own Foreign Office to break through the censorship and to take every possible step to stop these barbarities that are being practised there, under the name of the United Nations?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1498.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1519.0", "colnum": "1519", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; LONDON DOCKS (LABOUR DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Isaacs", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Isaacs", "preceding_text": "I am painfully aware of the reason for the last few words of the right hon. and learned Gentleman. I do not want to press him unduly but I would ask him if he is alive—as I feel sure he is—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1519.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1523.1", "colnum": "1523", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF A MEMBER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "xpress his regret for what had occurred, leniency could be exercised. That was the purpose of my hon. Friends and myself. You, Sir, of course, were not aware of the nature of my question, but that was my purpose. On further consideration, some hon. Members, including myself, ventured to ask you whether you would consider the position in order to ensure that no injustice was done to an hon. Member—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1523.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1545.1", "colnum": "1545", "heading": "Clause 1.—(GRANTS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "udget surplus as having gone in any particular direction—as having been allocated to a particular source in this case, the local authorities. Surely the real test, the practical test, that must be applied is the consideration of the true value, and, therefore, the right price of the loan—not so much the cost to the lender, but what the money would have earned if lent elsewhere on similar security.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1545.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1549.1", "colnum": "1549", "heading": "Clause 1.—(GRANTS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "f our constituents and to the country. No one on either side of the House ignores that. Surely, however, when these discussions are about to begin we must leave it for all matters concerned to be gone into in detail and sympathetically by those who represent the local authorities and my right hon. Friend. That surely is the proper position in which this House can, for the moment, leave the matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1549.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1555.1", "colnum": "1555", "heading": "Clause 1.—(GRANTS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "I am talking of those to whom taxation is a more important item in their spending than rents and rates; that is, on the whole, the rich section of the community.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1555.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1560.2", "colnum": "1560", "heading": "Clause 1.—(GRANTS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hutchinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hutchinson", "preceding_text": " the persons who are to benefit by it. It has been very effective for that purpose. The hon. Gentleman knows perfectly well how it is done, and so do I, and I really cannot occupy the time of the Committee by explaining it. The main burden of the speeches to which we have listened has been directed, no doubt quite rightly, to housing questions. Let us wait and see the result of these negotiations—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1560.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1571.5", "colnum": "1571", "heading": "Clause 1.—(GRANTS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "ave already decided that they do not intend to build appreciably more than 200,000 houses this year. If anyone in the Committee doubts that, I ask him to look at the figure in this Clause and the figures given by the Financial Secretary. It is, of course, true, as we learned yesterday, that this year more houses are to be built for sale both by local autho rities, apparently, and private builders.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1571.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1655.3", "colnum": "1655", "heading": "New Clause.—(ENROLMENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I beg leave to doubt that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1655.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1602.6", "colnum": "1602", "heading": "Clause 1.—(POWER OF HIS MAJESTY TO GIVE EFFECT TO PEACE TREATY AND PROTOCOL.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "Socialist Party and the Japanese working class movement. There is in Japan today the strongest opposition to the idea contained in this Bill, and if such a Bill were introduced into the Japanese Diet it would receive the strongest opposition from the people of Japan. I would conclude with this quotation. I would conclude, because I have certainly no desire to tax your patience, Mr. Deputy-Speaker.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1602.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1626.4", "colnum": "1626", "heading": "New Clause.—(EXTENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Delargy", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And Irish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Delargy", "preceding_text": " them a general reason and the other more specific, but both of them very relevant to the terms of the Motion. The general reason is this. I have always protested that any legislation enacted in this House should be extended to Northern Ireland. I have always maintained that Irish affairs should be administered by Irishmen in Ireland and not by English, Scots and Welshmen assembled here in London.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1626.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1633.0", "colnum": "1633", "heading": "New Clause.—(EXTENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Bing", "preceding_text": "I think that the Committee would be very wrong if it reproved hon. Members for laughing, but while we can laugh for a moment, I think that the suggestion of the hon. Member for Belfast, East (Mr. McKibbin), that the next war will be fun—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1633.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1633.0", "colnum": "1633", "heading": "New Clause.—(EXTENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Arm bands.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Bing", "preceding_text": "ey can use for Home Guard duties the rifle which is issued to them by the Northern Ireland Government for their police purposes? Where is their equipment to come from? Are they to have two sets of uniform, a hurrying back from police duties, a quick change over of uniform and then on Home Guard duty? In whose uniform will they be mobilised for the Home Guard, in their police or Home Guard uniform.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1633.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-28", "file": "debates1951-11-28a.xml", "sha256": "674eba0db318de44", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1669.2", "colnum": "1669", "heading": "RAW MATERIALS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He is not even present.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "n two days, had a certain amount of what I venture to call almost indecency in the treatment of this House, but have we now reached the point where a Supplementary Estimate for, nearly £48 millions is to be the subject of no comment of any sort? I had hoped that when the Minister responsible had had the elementary courtesy to tell the House something about the Estimate for which he seeks approval—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-28a.1669.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1727.9", "colnum": "1727", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnett Janner", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett Janner", "preceding_text": "In view of the very grave concern that is felt throughout the House in consequence of the statement made this afternoon and the very grave concern in the country about the cost of living increasing, are we not entitled to debate that matter and to stay over to do it, no matter how long?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1727.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1728.0", "colnum": "1728", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not do something about it? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crookshank", "preceding_text": "I realise these are matters of grave importance—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1728.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1732.0", "colnum": "1732", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF A MEMBER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "2013;24 were passed. For the last 70 years, since the modern summary procedure was introduced, the practice has been as I have described. I have thought it proper to give this Ruling, not only because I was asked to do so by the right hon. Gentleman, but because it is now a long time since a similar case occurred. May I express the hope that it will be a long time before such a case happens again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1731.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1734.2", "colnum": "1734", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF A MEMBER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "preceding_text": "Further to that point, Sir, with great respect, the point I was making was not that there may have been some mishearing or misunderstanding of what was said at the time but that the words clearly heard and reported in the original typescript by the reporter were subsequently changed twice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1734.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1734.6", "colnum": "1734", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF A MEMBER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. I. Mikardo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. I. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "or Nelson and Colne was so much under question than when, on either side of the Chamber, in the two Lobbies, some hundreds of hon. Members were dividing about the Question; and yet at that very moment, when the conduct of the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne was so much in question, you, Mr. Speaker, and I feel quite rightly, permitted him to raise a point of order. May I put this question to you?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1734.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1737.3", "colnum": "1737", "heading": "SUSPENSION OF A MEMBER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "preceding_text": "In this case may I point out, since the matter has been raised, that I, of course, asked to see only that page of the typescript which referred to my own intervention, which I sought to check, but, naturally, I had to read through the episode concerned in order to find it, because the whole thing was handed to me together.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1737.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1749.1", "colnum": "1749", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. West", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. West", "preceding_text": "y Under-Secretary came as a sop, or, as the Prime Minister said, \"To give pleasure,\" and to give pleasure he announced the appointment of a Welshman to be Under-Secretary of the Home Department, specially charged with Welsh affairs. So what the people of Wales are to have is a watch-dog unable to bite and a Parliamentary Under-Secretary who in the present set-up, must inevitably prove ineffective.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1749.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1749.1", "colnum": "1749", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. West", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And after that?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. West", "preceding_text": "ales, and, as a result, the economic life of Wales has been completely transformed. We have had my right hon. Friend the Member for Llanelly (Mr. J. Griffiths), former Minister of National Insurance and afterwards Secretary of State for the Colonies, my right hon. Friend the Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Bevan), who was the Minister of Health and afterwards the Minister of Labour and National Service—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1749.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1749.1", "colnum": "1749", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. West", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. West", "preceding_text": "e Member for Llanelly (Mr. J. Griffiths), former Minister of National Insurance and afterwards Secretary of State for the Colonies, my right hon. Friend the Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Bevan), who was the Minister of Health and afterwards the Minister of Labour and National Service—[HON. MEMBERS: \"And after that?\"]—and others. Indeed, my right hon. Friend the Member for Bishop Auckland (Mr. Dalton)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1749.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1753.3", "colnum": "1753", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hay", "preceding_text": "etary, I would say how much we welcome his appointment, which we feel is richly deserved. We wish him every success in the new office he has taken over. The hon. Member for Pontypool raised another point that was connected with the part which this new arrangement will play in the representation of Welsh opinion and Welsh affairs in this House. I do not think there is anything in this new proposal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1753.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1758.1", "colnum": "1758", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Marlowe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Marlowe", "preceding_text": "en made by both hon. Gentlemen opposite who have spoken with the point that the pledge given in my party's Manifesto has not been fully kept by the procedure suggested in the Bill. That is not really the case. The hon. Member for Anglesey appears to think that what was contemplated was the appointment of a Cabinet Minister with full executive authority devoted to nothing but the problems of Wales.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1758.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1759.1", "colnum": "1759", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "preceding_text": "If it really means the setting up of an executive Cabinet Minister for Wales who had no other duties whatever, that would involve the creation of a Welsh Office.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1759.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1759.3", "colnum": "1759", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "preceding_text": "ntained in such an Nobody ever interpreted that pledge in that way on this side of the House, so far as I know, and I am sorry if hon. Gentlemen opposite should have read it differently. If they did misunderstand it, the slightest inquiry would have clarified it. It is open to any hon. Gentleman or any of his constituents to question Conservative candidates at Election meetings on what this means.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1759.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1760.6", "colnum": "1760", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marlowe", "preceding_text": "I am not intentionally wasting time, but time has to be spent on discussion of such an important matter as this. I did not notice that there was any great rush of speakers from this side of the House so I felt entitled to take up a little time in discussing the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1760.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1776.4", "colnum": "1776", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, his senior.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman has rushed to the defence of his junior in a very gallant way. The hon. Member needs that defence it is true—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1776.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1776.4", "colnum": "1776", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": " Herbison), in our last debate spent a long time explaining that not enough attention was being given to education. She went through a careful analysis of the educational records of various hon. Members on this side of the House. She said that education was being left out and neglected, and she trusted very much that further attention would be given to education. That attention is now being given.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1776.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1776.4", "colnum": "1776", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "ally given fisheries, which have been taken away from agriculture as that was not the best set-up. Ts the ex-junior Secretary complaining because the Secretary of State is giving special attention to fisheries? This is a typical anomaly of the complaints made by right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite. Now she complains that special attention is being given to fisheries. Why should it not be given—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1776.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1778.0", "colnum": "1778", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "urlish to her own remarks if she now says that that is not giving proper attention to education. It is more attention than was given by her Government, a great deal more; and she cannot complain that we are not giving enough attention to it if we are giving more attention than was given by the Administration of which she was a very distinguished, perhaps sometimes the most distinguished, ornament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1778.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1781.1", "colnum": "1781", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman, who challenged me earlier on the danger of getting out of order, would not wish me to risk incurring the wrath of Mr. Speaker, but I will say that a greater increase in the powers of the Scottish administration over Scottish affairs is enshrined in this Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1781.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1781.5", "colnum": "1781", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; MINISTERS OF THE CROWN (PARLIAMENTARY UNDER SECRETARIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Elliot", "preceding_text": "dmiration from the other side which extends to Ministers. Under-Secretaries and back benchers as well. I only say that, enshrined in this Bill, is a greater control and grasp over the affairs of Scotland by Scotsmen, that the Minister of State, who has been referred to, though, naturally, one cannot refer to him at length here, is another example of the greater devolution which Scotland is having.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1781.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1796.3", "colnum": "1796", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "preceding_text": "Government have done is to cut down the supplies of tinned hams and meats, biscuits, preserves, confectionery, nuts, canned fruits, vegetables and fresh fruit. I say to hon. Members opposite: Another such victory, and you are undone. A remark more calculated to fetch the housewives than this one—it was in last year's broadcast—cannot be imagined: What is needed is that we should make the buy more.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1796.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1798.1", "colnum": "1798", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Mann", "preceding_text": "If it were a Labour Government, why did the present Prime Minister tell Morgenthau of America that the country was bankrupt? Why did he go on to say: I hesitate to face the ex-Service men because I will be the most unpopular man in England I have said—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1798.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1800.1", "colnum": "1800", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Major Lloyd George)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Decarbonising?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Major Lloyd George)", "preceding_text": "With a good deal of what the hon. Lady the Member for Coatbridge and Airdrie (Mrs. Mann) said towards the end of her speech—I emphasise, the end—a good many people would agree in all parts of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1800.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1800.2", "colnum": "1800", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Food (Major Lloyd George)", "preceding_text": "he thin—faces on this side, but they cannot have been referring to myself or to the Parliamentary Secretary. I shall deal with some of the points later, but first I would remind the hon. Lady and her hon. Friends that her speech has been a very good indictment of the Government she supported in the last six years. She said the basic rations were not sufficient. She surely cannot blame us for that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1800.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1800.4", "colnum": "1800", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "ople who made so many promises in the past and hardly fulfilled any of them. I want to make one reference to what the hon. Lady said about the caterine establishments, canteens and school meals. I am sure that she will forgive me saying so. but when I was last at this Ministry I had a great deal to do with canteens and school meals. In fact, we were responsible for the development of most of them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1800.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1801.1", "colnum": "1801", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "It is no use hon. Gentlemen opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1801.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1801.1", "colnum": "1801", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "It is no use hon. Gentlemen opposite—[ Interruption. ] I am going to stand here until I have finished what I have to say. If hon. Gentlemen interrupt me it simply means that I shall take longer and that means that a few other people will not get in.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1801.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1801.1", "colnum": "1801", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The stocks must have been there.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "k at some of the suggestions made by the hon. Lady with regard to bacon and fats, tea, sugar and so on. With regard to bacon, this Christmas I am in the position to raise the ration to 4 oz. from 2nd December. Last year the ration stood at 3 oz. A Christmas bonus was given of 2 oz., which made the effective weekly supply 3&#x00BD; oz. for the four-week ration period, and this year it will be 4 oz.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1801.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1804.1", "colnum": "1804", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"In 1945.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "There has been no butter bonus since the war—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1804.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1805.2", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "It was the promises of 1945 which have got us where we are now. Hon. Members must realise what the position is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1805.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1805.2", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "It was the promises of 1945 which have got us where we are now. Hon. Members must realise what the position is. [ Interruption. ] They know perfectly well what is the case on their own side, and they should know that I am trying to develop my case. If they would listen and talk less they might learn something.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1805.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1805.5", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Popplewell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And he does not\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Popplewell", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that the Minister said he did not want any more of that from me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1805.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1806.1", "colnum": "1806", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "t any Government with a sense of responsibility and in the last one that is a big assumption I am afraid—would have had to make the drastic cuts that we have been forced to make. The right hon. Gentleman the Member for Leeds, South (Mr. Gaitskell), said so in this House during the debate on the Address. He said that whatever Government came into power would have had to take drastic action quickly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1806.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1806.1", "colnum": "1806", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": " drastic action quickly—[ Interruption. ] Hon. Members should allow me to develop by argument. I am not being allowed to go beyond one not being allowed to go beyond one sentence at a time. What I was saying was that the right hon. Gentleman said that whatever Government came into power would have had to take drastic action quickly. Would that drastic action not have included cuts in food imports?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1806.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1806.5", "colnum": "1806", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "ration the measures to correct it. I have a few comments to make on that. Why did they not take the House of Commons into their confidence before the Election? Why did they not disclose the proper position and ask for power to apply the remedies which they said they had ready? I am satisfied that had they done the proposals made would have been supported by the overwhelming majority of this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1806.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1808.5", "colnum": "1808", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Major Lloyd George", "preceding_text": "Motion said that she deplored the decision of the Government not to issue extra food at Christmas. She told a very moving story about the disappointments which people would suffer. Actually, it would have been more appropriate if she had addressed those remarks to my predecessor rather than to myself. Neither I nor the present Government have any responsibility for the position as it exists today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1808.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1817.8", "colnum": "1817", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thornton-Kemsley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thornton-Kemsley", "preceding_text": "In both cases, my right hon. Friend the Minister was dependent entirely upon what he inherited from hon. and right hon. Members opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1817.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1822.3", "colnum": "1822", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Henderson", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Henderson", "preceding_text": "ed eggs on toast which she was able to give to her family, she saw a remarkable change for the better. That set me thinking of the position of the Labour Government so far as poultry production is concerned. On the question of Christmas bonuses, I do not think anybody worries about a sweets bonus. The shops are full of sweets. The trouble is the sweets are far too dear for many people to buy them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1822.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1822.3", "colnum": "1822", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Henderson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Henderson", "preceding_text": "ur weeks. In October, there were five allocations for the four weeks. In November, there were again only four. Yet, if there is one section of the agricultural industry which has responded to appeals for greater production, it is the poultry industry. These are facts. The Tory Party, it is true, has made promises, but nothing comparable to the promises made by the Labour Party in 1945. Given time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1822.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1837.1", "colnum": "1837", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food (Dr. Charles Hill)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is true.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food (Dr. Charles Hill)", "preceding_text": "r Bradford, Central (Mr. Webb) and at an earlier stage by his former Parliamentary Secretary, the hon., Member for Sunderland, North (Mr. F. Willey). The right hon. Gentleman posed the issue when he said, in an opening sentence: \"Was it really necessary?\" It has been put in other ways, as it was by the hon. Lady the Member for Flint, East (Mrs. White), when she accused the Government of hypocrisy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1837.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1837.1", "colnum": "1837", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food (Dr. Charles Hill)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food (Dr. Charles Hill)", "preceding_text": "ley). The right hon. Gentleman posed the issue when he said, in an opening sentence: \"Was it really necessary?\" It has been put in other ways, as it was by the hon. Lady the Member for Flint, East (Mrs. White), when she accused the Government of hypocrisy. [HON. MEMBERS: \"It is true.\"] In fact, she suggested that the Government willingly and deliberately took a step which it knows to be unpopular.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1837.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1838.1", "colnum": "1838", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the children?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "—which I do not necessarily criticise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1838.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1838.2", "colnum": "1838", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": " do not necessarily criticise. [HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the children?\"] The right hon. Gentleman made his speech without interruption and I hope that the House will bear in mind the short time I have in which to speak. Last year, the stock of meat in the country at this time was dangerously low. It is now high by comparison because we are comparing the dangerously low with the barely sufficient.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1838.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1838.4", "colnum": "1838", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. F. Wiley", "preceding_text": "Mr. F. Wiley rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1838.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1839.0", "colnum": "1839", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "correct in saying that in the calculation as to the possibilities of 1s. 5d. an allocation was made for a Christmas bonus. So, if the position is as he stated, that it is only with reasonably good fortune in relation to factors over which we have no control that the ration can be sustained in the months ahead at 1s. 5d., it would have been imprudent, unfair and senseless so to weaken the position—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1839.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1839.2", "colnum": "1839", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nobody said so.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "aining the ration as the position was in July last before the balance of payments assumed its worse proportions. He was uncertain then—the position has deteriorated—and he now tells the House that a sugar bonus at Christmas time is possible. The hon. Member for Sunderland, North, referred to butter and cheese. Incidentally, there has never been a cheese bonus and there has not been a butter bonus—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1839.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1839.2", "colnum": "1839", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "as uncertain then—the position has deteriorated—and he now tells the House that a sugar bonus at Christmas time is possible. The hon. Member for Sunderland, North, referred to butter and cheese. Incidentally, there has never been a cheese bonus and there has not been a butter bonus—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Nobody said so.\"]—but I am saying so. He knows that such is the supply position throughout the world—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1839.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1840.3", "colnum": "1840", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": "he \"Daily Herald\" in its report of that broadcast was very careful to omit those words. I suggest that, perhaps, there is one reason amongst others why, in fact, this position of the great and growing gravity in the balance of payments field was concealed from the country. It is that the party opposite was much too busy trying to delude the people into believing that they were the angels of peace—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1840.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1840.3", "colnum": "1840", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Hill", "preceding_text": " much too busy trying to delude the people into believing that they were the angels of peace—[ Interruption. ] May I come, then, to the desire of the House for red meat? The hon. Lady who opened the debate quoted the actual words: I believe that one of the things we could do to make us feel like working a lot harder would be to give us some red meat to eat. Anything wrong with that as a principle?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1840.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1847.2", "colnum": "1847", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Dirty dog&#x0021; [ Interruption ]", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "preceding_text": "eaker. I was proceeding into the Division Lobby, and from behind me I heard some rather angry words. I was outside the Bar of the House. I turned round to see what was happening and found the hon. Gentleman the Member for Burton (Mr. Colegate) having an argument with another Member of the House. I made some comment to the other Member of the House and immediately I was pushed on the left shoulder—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1847.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1847.2", "colnum": "1847", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "preceding_text": "Dirty dog&#x0021;", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1847.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1848.1", "colnum": "1848", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Percy Shurmer", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Percy Shurmer", "preceding_text": "On proceeding out to the Division the hon. Member for Burton (Mr. Colegate) came alongside me, Sir. There was not much room because all Members were crowding out. In a threatening attitude—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1848.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1848.4", "colnum": "1848", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maurice Orbach", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maurice Orbach", "preceding_text": "As the hon. Member for Burton (Mr. Colegate) referred in friendly tones to my intervention in the early part of the fracas. I regret that he was not good enough to tell the House that in withdrawing from contact with my hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1848.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1848.4", "colnum": "1848", "heading": "CHRISTMAS FOOD SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maurice Orbach", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maurice Orbach", "preceding_text": "As the hon. Member for Burton (Mr. Colegate) referred in friendly tones to my intervention in the early part of the fracas. I regret that he was not good enough to tell the House that in withdrawing from contact with my hon. Friend—[ Interruption. ] A moment later, when he realised what he had done, the hon. Gentleman said, \"Anyway, I did not intend to.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1848.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1865.3", "colnum": "1865", "heading": "HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman and the Leader of the Opposition have asked, Why must we have these powers now, because if and when war comes we shall have them anyway? It seems to me that in a sense that argument suggests that whether we make the Amendment to this Bill or not the situation will be the same either way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1865.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1865.5", "colnum": "1865", "heading": "HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "I am very much obliged to the Prime Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1865.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1865.5", "colnum": "1865", "heading": "HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Strike breakers.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "w a line between easily. A man in the Home Guard, a member of His Majesty's Forces, guarding vulnerable points may be in a situation in which, in order to fulfil his duties as a mustered man of the Home Guard, he may be required to act. If I accepted the Amendment we might be in grave difficulty. There is a feeling in the House that the Home Guard in war may be not guards of vulnerable points but—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1865.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1876.1", "colnum": "1876", "heading": "HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Major H. Legge-Bourke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Is it in the Bill\"?", "preceding_speaker": "Major H. Legge-Bourke", "preceding_text": "n admiration at his patience and readiness to concede points about which some hon. Members felt so strongly. I know that so far as I was concerned I found it very difficult at times to be as patient as he was. Before we part with this Bill, I wish to tell the House that during the course of the Second Reading debate, I came across a reference to myself about which I should like to say a few words.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1876.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-29", "file": "debates1951-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "dd3aedf9e1ab683d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1878.1", "colnum": "1878", "heading": "HOME GUARD BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Wigg", "preceding_text": "rial dispute. I accept the assurance of the Secretary of State for War. During the coming months he might bear in mind that what he is facing here is a crisis in confidence. He has to accept the fact that a Conservative Administration cannot do something in the industrial field that perhaps can be done with ease by hon. Members on this side of the House. I am not making a controversial point here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-29a.1878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-30", "file": "debates1951-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "3d3d917a8f1897ea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-30a.1891.1", "colnum": "1891", "heading": "MINISTRY OF MATERIALS (STOCKPILING)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": "se this question of principle is involved.\" What we want to know from hon. Gentlemen opposite is whether there is a ceiling to the figure of stockpiling. If not, on what basis is it determined? How do we decide what is the right amount of strategic materials that we can stockpile? What is the criterion by which we judge? I hope the House does not feel that I am developing this at too great length.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-30a.1891.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-30", "file": "debates1951-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "3d3d917a8f1897ea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-30a.1901.1", "colnum": "1901", "heading": "MINISTRY OF MATERIALS (STOCKPILING)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bing", "preceding_text": " do not necessarily mean my hon. Friends on the back benches, but my right hon. Friend the former Chancellor, who is here sitting through a long discussion and waiting to hear some answer on this matter from the Front Bench opposite. There is no point in Parliament, if it is to be reduced by the Patronage Secretary to one side of the House. Let me just come to the conclusion of what I want to say.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-30a.1901.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-11-30", "file": "debates1951-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "3d3d917a8f1897ea", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-30a.1962.0", "colnum": "1962", "heading": "MINISTRY OF MATERIALS (STOCKPILING)", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Castle", "preceding_text": "ravagance in this country or to Socialist internal policies, but to the extraordinary pressure upon the supplies and, therefore, the prices of raw materials. We said then—we repeat it now—that the answer is not the outworn Tory slogan of \"Set the people free.\" The only answer is the extension in the international sphere of the controls which the Labour Party has so successfully applied internally.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-11-30a.1962.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-12-03", "file": "debates1951-12-03a.xml", "sha256": "2d3a29141b58263b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-03a.1998.8", "colnum": "1998", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Shame.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peake", "preceding_text": "I am not at present contemplating any increases of this kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-03a.1998.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-03", "file": "debates1951-12-03a.xml", "sha256": "2d3a29141b58263b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-03a.2047.0", "colnum": "2047", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Clause 1.—(NUMBERS OF PARLIAMENTARY UNDER-SECRETARIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Ross", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They have.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Ross", "preceding_text": "Does your Ruling, Sir Charles, mean that we on these benches cannot ask the Government to justify this proposal? After all, the Government are asking us to pass this Clause and the Bill. Surely they have to justify to the country the need for an extra Under-Secretary of State for Scotland—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-03a.2047.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-03", "file": "debates1951-12-03a.xml", "sha256": "2d3a29141b58263b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-03a.2064.0", "colnum": "2064", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; Clause 1.—(NUMBERS OF PARLIAMENTARY UNDER-SECRETARIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "uth (Sir P. Spens), can thank the fresh winds of Scotland for allowing the Kensington breezes to stir at all. I asked the right hon. Gentleman if he would reconsider the allocation of duties among the Under-Secretaries in order to give a greater bias towards housing. I do not know whether the right hon. Gentleman did not consider my remarks worth answering or not, but he made no reference to them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-03a.2064.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2222.1", "colnum": "2222", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; MINISTRY OF WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eccles", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member is quite wrong. Members of the industry have already brought to my notice three important subjects. One is the supply of labour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2222.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2229.1", "colnum": "2229", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bernard Braine", "preceding_text": "Mr. Bernard Braine (Billericay) rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2229.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.3", "colnum": "2230", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Hon Members", "cue_text": "Ah&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "preceding_text": "I am trying to draw a simple conclusion, and I do not want it blurred by the hon. Gentleman.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.8", "colnum": "2230", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "preceding_text": "These figures—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.8", "colnum": "2230", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And rudeness\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "preceding_text": "h was much shorter than his. He had a little less than five years and I had a little more than five months. The credit is due to be distributed between us, perhaps, roughly in that proportion. During the period in which he held that office, my right hon. Friend showed great qualities which were no surprise to those of us who knew him—great qualities of drive, of encouragement of local authorities—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.8", "colnum": "2230", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "preceding_text": "arry a very sinister meaning: Arrangements for the following year will be reviewed in the light of experience of the first year's working. That may well mean that in 1953 more than a half may be put out to private builders for sale. Indeed, it may be that this opens the way—a wide open road—towards the complete supersession of local authority building altogether in many areas and the handing over—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.8", "colnum": "2230", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who made it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dalton", "preceding_text": "authority building altogether in many areas and the handing over—[ Interruption .] The right hon. Gentleman, when pondering what to do next, will observe that many of his hon. Friends would welcome just what I have described, namely, the handing over of the whole cow to the private builder and the disappearance of the local authority from the scene altogether. That is a very interesting admission.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2230.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2243.2", "colnum": "2243", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "I come now to the next point. It has been commonly stated that the man with the long purse will jump the queue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2243.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2244.1", "colnum": "2244", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "It will rather delay me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2244.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2245.3", "colnum": "2245", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We are.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "We ought to be clear about this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2245.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2246.2", "colnum": "2246", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "al authority and not with the Minister. It allows greater flexibility of decision to suit the different conditions of each locality. It encourages enterprise and it may bring new housebuilding resources into the housebuilding field. Finally—and this is not to be neglected in our present emergency—every house built to private account, whether to sell or to rent, saves the Exchequer £16 10s. a year—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2246.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2246.2", "colnum": "2246", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macmillan", "preceding_text": "pon and foolishly carried out. There is much evidence to the contrary. The Bourneville Village Trust, in giving evidence to the Faringdon sub-committee—a very respectable authority—of the Central Housing Advisory Committee, said the exact opposite. They said that the scattering of a certain number of privately-owned houses in their large estates of houses let for rent had a most beneficial effect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2246.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2252.2", "colnum": "2252", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer&#x0021;", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Aneurin Bevan", "preceding_text": "ast relevant. I also expected that before he sat down he would say a word or two in explanation of the proposal to take in a dollar a year man to help in the housing drive. Great publicity was given in the newspapers a week or so ago to the fact that the right hon. Gentleman was to enlist the services of a business man to help in the housing drive. Do I understand that the proposal was never made?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2252.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6", "colnum": "2253", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Even the Government.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": " doubt at all about that. If we reduce the size of the houses to rabbit hutches, of course we can build more. There has never been any doubt about that. Is it a recent discovery on the part of the right hon. Gentleman that by reducing the accommodation, by taking out certain amenities and by reducing the superficial area of the house we can build more houses? Of course we can. Any fool knows that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6", "colnum": "2253", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "nities and by reducing the superficial area of the house we can build more houses? Of course we can. Any fool knows that. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Even the Government.\"] The question always has been, how far should we sacrifice permanent values to short-term needs? The right hon. Gentleman and the Conservative Government have decided that, having to have bigger bombers, they must now have smaller houses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6", "colnum": "2253", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "chbishop of Canterbury will wag a pontifical finger at the right hon. Gentleman for preaching the virtue of the universality of sin. We have always known that there was a danger in allowing a certain amount of building for private ownership immediately after the war. Inside the Labour Party, there has always been argument as to whether we ought to have allowed any private building for sale at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6", "colnum": "2253", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Rubbish\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "ll be in the industrial north, in the industrial west, in London, and in all those parts of the country where industrial activity forms the very basis of British revival. What is it that the right hon. Gentleman now proposes? He proposes that comparatively well-to-do people in the south and south-east of England should be able to use scarce building resources and build large houses for themselves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6", "colnum": "2253", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not on your life.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": " his circular, which he obviously did not understand. I come back to paragraph 5: In determining the size and type of house to he built under licence the local authority should have regard to the size and composition of the family for whom it is intended. What does that mean? Does it mean that if a person applies for a private licence and has no children, he will be given only a two-bedroom house?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6", "colnum": "2253", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He wants time to consider it\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "r licence the local authority should have regard to the size and composition of the family for whom it is intended. What does that mean? Does it mean that if a person applies for a private licence and has no children, he will be given only a two-bedroom house? [An HON. MEMBER: \"Not on your life.\"] I should like to know. I am only a humble seeker of knowledge. Will the right hon. Gentleman tell us?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2253.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2260.1", "colnum": "2260", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "s own showing, the people nearest to the problems have shown what proportion they think licences should bear. What the right hon. Gentleman proposes to do is to release just those local authorities whose freedom of action is least consistent with the national well being. I should like to say a word or two about the proposal to sell houses. I have never taken a doctrinaire point of view about this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2260.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2260.1", "colnum": "2260", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bevan", "preceding_text": "ances. I have known, especially between the war years, working class people buy houses for £700 or £800 and sell them for £160 when they emigrated or when they had to move to London for a job. One of the reasons why we wanted to have more houses to rent was because the worker would have security of tenure and he could move to other jobs without having to be mulcted by forced sales of his property.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2260.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2265.0", "colnum": "2265", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman seriously asking the House to believe that the houses built in 1900 to 1905 are comparable in superficial area with the houses built in the last six years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2265.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2265.1", "colnum": "2265", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "preceding_text": "They were the type of house which was appropriate, or regarded as appropriate at the time. I have not the least doubt that in another 50 years many of the permanent and temporary houses built by the right hon. Gentleman will be regarded as equally unsatisfactory.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2265.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2266.1", "colnum": "2266", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hudson", "preceding_text": " That has meant that the 10s. net subsidised rent has \"gone west\" He himself said in the debate the other day, in answer to an interruption, that the average rent today was 14s. That is the average rent. Many of them are, of course, very much higher. While I am on the subject I would comment that right hon. Gentlemen are talking about the serious effects of the rise in the Public Works Loan rates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2266.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2277.1", "colnum": "2277", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Porter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Porter", "preceding_text": "nnot be used for the purpose for which they are being used at present. It is all very well for hon. Members to talk about housing from the point of view of how many houses we ought always to have. There is nobody here, I suppose, who does not hope that by some means, even in the near future and under the present Government, we shall increase the number of houses built for the people who need them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2277.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2286.4", "colnum": "2286", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Key", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Key", "preceding_text": "on of local housing allocations to be diverted to private ownership. This means that to the extent to which local authorities adopt it—and the more reactionary the local authority the more certain it is to do it—a great many of those whose names have been on the local authorities' housing lists for a long time will have the satisfaction of their claim postponed for a year, two years, or even more—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2286.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2288.1", "colnum": "2288", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Key", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Key", "preceding_text": "is that of quality—the quality of the new houses which are to be built. There are no conditions laid down for houses to be built by private owners. I know the Circular says that certain things should be taken into consideration, but there is no guarantee that they will be taken into consideration by local authorities concerned. Speculative builders are completely free to build sub-standard houses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2288.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2291.1", "colnum": "2291", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. B. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. B. Godber", "preceding_text": "that has been put forward by the Minister at this time, and I believe that its benefits can be very far-reaching indeed. With regard to the building of new houses by private individuals, however, I do suggest that there is possibly a little caution to be exercised, in that there is a possibility that some builders may be drawn off from council house building for the building of this type of house.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2291.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2291.1", "colnum": "2291", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. B. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Subsidies.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. B. Godber", "preceding_text": "t rich \"spivs\" getting houses, as against farm workers and miners. I am a farmer, and I work among my farm workers, and I know the conditions in which they live, and I also know for a fact that during the period when the right hon. Gentleman was responsible for housing at the Ministry of Health the actions that he took prevented many rural houses and cottages from being reconditioned and improved.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2291.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2295.1", "colnum": "2295", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Miss Alice Bacon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Alice Bacon", "preceding_text": " a great deal of slum clearance which has still to be tackled, and because of six years of war and the shortages at the end of the war, this problem cannot be tackled at the present time. In my constituency, there are thousands of back-to-back houses, what we call one up and one down. Perhaps hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite do not understand what I mean by back-to-back, one up and one down.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2295.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2297.1", "colnum": "2297", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "preceding_text": " shortage of builders coming forward to build the houses. I know that the party opposite have a slogan, \"Let the builders build.\" We in Leeds have been wishing for a considerable time that the builders would come forward to build. We have been waiting for them to do so. There has to be a considerable increase in the number of buildings if there is to be any increase in the number of houses to let.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2297.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2297.1", "colnum": "2297", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They are.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "preceding_text": "ave been wishing for a considerable time that the builders would come forward to build. We have been waiting for them to do so. There has to be a considerable increase in the number of buildings if there is to be any increase in the number of houses to let. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] Hon. Gentlemen opposite say, \"Hear, hear,\" as if they are quite certain that these extra houses are to be built.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2297.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2307.0", "colnum": "2307", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is happening.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "preceding_text": "I thank my hon. Friend. My main purpose in bringing forward what might appear to be a local affair is that it indicates what might be happening, and, probably, will happen—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2307.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2307.2", "colnum": "2307", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Derek Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Derek Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "Member for Poplar (Mr. Key) had so little to say that they spent some time in lavishing praise upon the right hon. Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Bevan); but of course, though the right hon. Member for Ebbw Vale was equally barren of argument, he did not spend any of his time in passing any compliments to his right hon. Friends. The right hon. Member for Ebbw Vale has made many unfortunate and harmful—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2307.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2310.0", "colnum": "2310", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "on. Member for Central Ayrshire (Mr. Manuel) well knows, two types of private building: there is contract building, and there is building on private account. Local authority building is necessarily contract building. The trouble about local authority house building is simply that it combines both the delays and complexities of building by committee, which is inherent in the local authority system—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2310.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2312.0", "colnum": "2312", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Julius Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Julius Silverman", "preceding_text": "That was simply a guess.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2312.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2316.5", "colnum": "2316", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. M. Turner-Samuels", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. M. Turner-Samuels", "preceding_text": "e, and on his own careful consideration of the matter, what is to happen as a result of what he has done is that it will run at one in four, why, then, has he made such a drastic change? I think he ought to give an explanation, because, in present conditions of scarcity and difficulty, to build even a single house for sale more than is absolutely necessary must be wrong and must create difficulty.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2316.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2322.6", "colnum": "2322", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "preceding_text": "to own them today. The heavy burden on the taxpayer and on the ratepayer would have been ameliorated to some extent if an extension of the right of the individual to own his own house had been permitted. There is the grave and serious problem for those who want to acquire a house through the public funds. But there is still an important side of our economy which should be encouraged and developed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2322.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2322.6", "colnum": "2322", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Darling", "preceding_text": "avings Bank. That is not beyond the means of those who spend millions of pounds on tobacco, pools and other extravagances. Having saved that £100 I suggest they save £500 in National Savings Certificates and then insure their lives for a modest sum of money and, having done that, buy a house. Having done these four things—and they are within the compass of the humblest wage-earner in this country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2322.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2329.5", "colnum": "2329", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "Well, it is an Amendment. I now understand the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2329.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2329.5", "colnum": "2329", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "Well, it is an Amendment. I now understand the right hon. Gentleman—[HoN. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] The right hon. Gentleman must believe me that the people behind them in their constituencies in this country will be made to understand in exactly the same way that the Government are running away as fast as they can from 300,000.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2329.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2329.5", "colnum": "2329", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "er for Southport (Mr. R. S. Hudson) drew to our attention an increase in rent figures. I was very grateful for them. But the increase in rent figures is pettifogging compared with the charges which right hon. Gentlemen opposite are pretending—they are only pretending—that the ordinary humble people of this country can afford for these houses. It is a mockery, a cynical, callous, deceitful mockery.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2329.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2336.0", "colnum": "2336", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Come on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "We, of course, shall divide, and I imagine that there are more cold feet than valiant hearts on the opposite side, because this question will pursue each one of the Members opposite into their constituencies. I can see hon. Gentlemen against whom it will afford me great pleasure to speak on this subject when I come to their constituencies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2336.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2336.0", "colnum": "2336", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Where are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "h one of the Members opposite into their constituencies. I can see hon. Gentlemen against whom it will afford me great pleasure to speak on this subject when I come to their constituencies. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Come on.\"] I do not now know how Members below the Gangway will vote tonight. I hope that they will take their courage in their hands. I hope that we will see some Liberals behaving as Liberals—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2336.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2336.0", "colnum": "2336", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Mockery.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNeil", "preceding_text": "ouses were provided for letting. There are hon. Members on the other side of the House who have said that from time to time, but, of course, they will have to forget that, at any rate, for tonight. I hope, however, that the Liberal Party as it is, will at any rate be so ashamed tonight that they will not find themselves in the same Lobby as the Government. This is a shameless, dishonest procedure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2336.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2337.1", "colnum": "2337", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Speak up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "preceding_text": "have stated, we are issuing guidance, and discussions are taking place as to the conditions under which this should be permitted. We have stated that the local authorities must retain sufficient houses to let to avoid upsetting the lists of those who are so anxiously awaiting houses to rent. The right hon. Gentleman also asked me about Glasgow Corporation, and a report that they are contemplating—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2337.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2340.1", "colnum": "2340", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "preceding_text": " up our own plans and a more economical design in order to save timber, and, therefore, to reduce the cost, and we hope to be able to negotiate this in order to help to increase the output of finished houses in 1952 and 1953. We have also given guidance to the local authorities about the possibilities of economical designs to reduce the total area of a house without bringing down living standards.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2340.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2340.1", "colnum": "2340", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "cue_text": "interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "preceding_text": "als represent one of the main problems confronting the housing drive. But I will return to that subject later. I would like to congratulate the hon. Member for Bolton, West (Mr. Holt) on his maiden speech. I agree that the main subject of his speech, a matter with which he dealt at considerable length, does deserve careful attention, and I am sure that my right hon. Friend will be glad to give it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2340.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-04", "file": "debates1951-12-04a.xml", "sha256": "1c3186a16559dbc4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2340.1", "colnum": "2340", "heading": "HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stuart", "preceding_text": "n. Member for Bolton, West (Mr. Holt) on his maiden speech. I agree that the main subject of his speech, a matter with which he dealt at considerable length, does deserve careful attention, and I am sure that my right hon. Friend will be glad to give it. [ interruption .] I was not talking about rating. Although it is a subject very applicable to Scotland, I am not handling the matter' in England.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-04a.2340.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-05", "file": "debates1951-12-05a.xml", "sha256": "63b2ea6af97cf29d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2371.4", "colnum": "2371", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Will they be Europeans?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": "I hope the beneficiaries are those people who will bring prosperity to the whole territory.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2371.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-05", "file": "debates1951-12-05a.xml", "sha256": "63b2ea6af97cf29d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2387.3", "colnum": "2387", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions &#8212; CIVIL AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Head", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Head", "preceding_text": "I am aware of the hon. Lady's interest in mails—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2387.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-05", "file": "debates1951-12-05a.xml", "sha256": "63b2ea6af97cf29d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2401.2", "colnum": "2401", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JUDICIAL OFFICES (SALARIES, &c.), BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Barnett Stross", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Barnett Stross", "preceding_text": "es would be £2,000 to £2,500 for the 15 stipendiary magistrates in the provinces. Why this disparity? It does not seem to me to be reasonable. I think that it has grown up out of archaic interests and traditions in the areas involved; but cannot we alter it now, and make the whole system more reasonable? Why, for argument, should a magistrate in Birmingham have a larger salary than one in Salford.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2401.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-05", "file": "debates1951-12-05a.xml", "sha256": "63b2ea6af97cf29d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2405.1", "colnum": "2405", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JUDICIAL OFFICES (SALARIES, &c.), BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hylton-Foster", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hylton-Foster", "preceding_text": "fered personal agonies while listening to other hon. Members talking out the last train may sympathise with a judge who has to listen to litigants talking out his last train when he is travelling around the country in all kinds of weather. On Monday I was listening to the hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for Aberdeen, North (Mr. Hector Hughes), whom I regret to see is here not at this moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2405.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-05", "file": "debates1951-12-05a.xml", "sha256": "63b2ea6af97cf29d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2418.0", "colnum": "2418", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JUDICIAL OFFICES (SALARIES, &c.), BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "s to the contrary. Anyone who has read the lives of judges will know of occasions when the appointment has been a flagrant political job—when it was wanted to create a by-election. One Lord Chancellor explained that it would be better to put two incompetents on the bench than to let two straight voting Tory baronets go into the bankruptcy court. All these appointments have been enormous successes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2418.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-05", "file": "debates1951-12-05a.xml", "sha256": "63b2ea6af97cf29d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2423.2", "colnum": "2423", "heading": "Orders of the Day &#8212; JUDICIAL OFFICES (SALARIES, &c.), BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Wheatley", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Wheatley", "preceding_text": "there is no logical reason why these additional emoluments to the Court of Session judges in Scotland should not similarly be ante-dated. If the only barrier against doing this is the way in which the Financial Resolution has been drawn up, I earnestly solicit the Government to take away this Financial Resolution and to bring back one which will enable justice to be done to the judges in Scotland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2423.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-05", "file": "debates1951-12-05a.xml", "sha256": "63b2ea6af97cf29d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2491.1", "colnum": "2491", "heading": "WAR DAMAGED AREAS (ASSISTANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Terence Clarke", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Terence Clarke", "preceding_text": "ere bombed. I have every confidence that if we set the builders free we shall get the houses built in our cities. Hon. Gentlemen opposite are very worried about whether we shall get the houses in the wrong order. They are more interested in the queue—or in the ladder, if they prefer that. In my view, the people of this country want houses and are not interested so much in who is going to get them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2491.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-05", "file": "debates1951-12-05a.xml", "sha256": "63b2ea6af97cf29d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2493.1", "colnum": "2493", "heading": "WAR DAMAGED AREAS (ASSISTANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "preceding_text": "entlemen have got to hear this. They have had six years, as a Government, in which to build houses; and as a Government, they failed. The blitzed cities were the places which suffered most in their failure. If we have the building which I have every confidence this Government will do, then the blitzed cities will, I hope, receive the precedence they deserve after what they suffered during the war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-05a.2493.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2601.0", "colnum": "2601", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Aneurin Bevan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Aneurin Bevan", "preceding_text": "Will the right hon. Gentleman give way? He has made an exceedingly important statement, the effect of which, as I understand it, is that it will not be found possible to spend the £4,700 million in the three years. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] That is the effect of his statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2601.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2602.0", "colnum": "2602", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "As events develop, the right hon. Gentleman will no doubt watch them with attention, and the discussions which, from time to time, he will have with his former colleagues will no doubt be both instructive and animated on both sides.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2602.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2609.1", "colnum": "2609", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Western.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "preceding_text": "ent, what I think I saw in his previous speech, that it was necessary that we, too, should make a contribution actually in the European Army. I noticed, too, that the European Minister of Defence had disappeared. Well, I think that is all to the good. We all agree that German re-armament is a very, very difficult subject. On the one hand, it is quite impossible to leave a vacuum in eastern Europe.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2609.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2609.1", "colnum": "2609", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh&#x0021;\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. R. Attlee", "preceding_text": " the three Services. I believe that has been done to a very great extent by the good work by the Chiefs of Staff and also by the organisation of the Ministry of Defence, but it may be that the right hon. Gentleman may find, after a bit, that he wants someone to take on the Ministry of Defence. I noticed some speculation in the Sunday papers about this. I do not read the Sunday papers a great deal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2609.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2616.1", "colnum": "2616", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Attlee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Attlee", "preceding_text": "contrary to the general position we have had in this country with civilians at the head of the Service Ministers. I do not think the experience we have had in the past, of distinguished soldiers or sailors being put there, have been happy ones, and if we have another Minister of Defence then that Minister should be in the House of Commons. I have not made a party speech on this subject of defence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2616.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2624.1", "colnum": "2624", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wyatt", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wyatt", "preceding_text": "n the possibility of defending itself. We should never cease to emphasise that our Forces are designed for self-defence alone, and that there is no possibility of an arms race inherent in our programme in the West. Even if the most optimistic calculations of N.A.T.O. were fulfilled, we would still not have in 1954, or even in 1955 or 1956, Forces large enough to threaten Russia; not even remotely.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2624.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2648.1", "colnum": "2648", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Absolute nonsense.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shackleton", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member is misrepresenting me. I referred to their talking of the idea of a United Europe and a European army. The hon. Member has only to go to France to find out how bitterly they feel about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2648.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2665.1", "colnum": "2665", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"There is not all that for Christmas.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "and I say this as one who has done some carefully planned operation studies in a kitchen in working out a planned programme for cooking a Christmas dinner. Any housewife will tell this House that if she tries to overload a small gas cooker by putting into production all at once the soup, the turkey, the potatoes and other vegetables, and the Christmas pudding, she will not get finished till night.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2665.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2677.3", "colnum": "2677", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "e the point. Unless these Forces are built up speedily—it is no use talking about 1954, or 1955, or 1956, and so on—it seems to me that we are taking an unfair advantage of the presence of General Eisenhower in Europe; indeed, it is an insult to his intelligence and to his reputation. The second thing is that the discussions are far too protracted. There is far too much talk and too little action—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2677.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2677.3", "colnum": "2677", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " able to provide the equipment which is essential to build up the French and other armies in the West. That is a great danger. The further point is—and I have no doubt the right hon. Gentleman has it in mind—a possible change in United States policy, if the countries of the West do not show their mettle in the building up of Forces. These are very great dangers. I have occupied all the time I can—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2677.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-06", "file": "debates1951-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "09c95f4a773200a7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2680.1", "colnum": "2680", "heading": "DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for War (Mr. Antony Head)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for War (Mr. Antony Head)", "preceding_text": " The right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition did, I think, rather accuse my right hon. Friend that in his speech there was a lack of criticism of the Government's policy during the past six years. Perhaps it would be better if I described it as a statement of the fact and not as an accusation. I do not wish to be controversial, but I think it only fair to point out to the Prime Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-06a.2680.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-07", "file": "debates1951-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "b1f55e48fd70ce8d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-07a.2727.1", "colnum": "2727", "heading": "AFRICANS (HIGHER EDUCATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lennox-Boyd", "preceding_text": "ccomplished by ourselves or even, perhaps, in our time. All we can ask is that we shall be given the chance Of laying a few bricks and that these few bricks shall be a secure foundation on which others can build. If we are now going to be able to build on those secure foundations I know that the House will like to pay a special tribute to the memory of a man who did so much to lay the foundations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-07a.2727.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1951-12-07", "file": "debates1951-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "b1f55e48fd70ce8d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-07a.2749.1", "colnum": "2749", "heading": "PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. John Maclay)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. John Maclay)", "preceding_text": "bute to the work which I know the hon. Member for Peterborough has done for many years past on behalf of safety on the roads. As my hon. Friend mentioned in opening, we are discussing this subject under the shadow of the tragic accident at Gillingham, and I feel certain that I can say that the, thoughts of all of us at this moment are with all those who are going through such suffering and sorrow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1951-12-07a.2749.1"}
