{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.7.6", "colnum": "7", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "ed, in my present responsibility, in seeing that there is no waste of public money. As the House has expressed an interest in this matter, I have ascertained comparable figures which show that, for the present Session, there has been incurred approximately, both at home and abroad, 17 per cent. of the similar expenditure incurred during the financial year 1963–64 by the last Administration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.7.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.21.5", "colnum": "21", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "There is, of course, no link between the temporary increase to 7 per cent. in the Bank Rate and increases of the order referred to by the hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.21.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.22.5", "colnum": "22", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "reserve ratio necessary to qualify for trustee status. I believe that, in these circumstances, it was a most unfortunate step for them to increase building society rates. I think that the increase could well have been suspended for the time being, certainly until they had seen how the long-term interest rate turned out. There is a third consideration which I put to them. Under the corporation tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.22.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.23.0", "colnum": "23", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I understand that the building societies said last August that they intended to consider putting up their rates, so this is not, as it were, particularly a matter which has arisen since the General Election.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.23.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.25.9", "colnum": "25", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING (FINANCE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "When?", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " would not introduce differential interest rates so that local authorities would be able to offer at rates lower than the building societies could offer. Nothing has been done in contravention of that pledge—I have the letter here. With regard to our general policy, which was stated before and during the election, of providing special help in the matter of mortgage rates, this is still our policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.25.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.29.0", "colnum": "29", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION (FINANCE)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The Hon. Gentleman's supplementary question does not seem to arise very much from the Question, but I will say to him that whatever was in our election manifesto or in our election programme is still the policy of the Government. I never suggested—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.29.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.32.0", "colnum": "32", "heading": "DEFENCE (AIRCRAFT ORDERS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "e is deep concern in the aircraft industry about its future. The Government are taking that fully into account in the review of aircraft projects they are now undertaking and which was announced to the House as far back as last November and repeated in a debate in December. No statement was made by me or anyone else describing the aircraft industry in the terms that the right hon. Member has used.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.32.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.37.1", "colnum": "37", "heading": "DEFENCE (AIRCRAFT ORDERS)", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Robson Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Robson Brown", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. The House will be aware that on Thursday of last week over 10,000 workers from the Weybridge factory marched through London streets in an orderly fashion and also held a mass meeting in Hyde Park.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.37.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.37.3", "colnum": "37", "heading": "DEFENCE (AIRCRAFT ORDERS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I can assure the hon. Gentleman that no Ruling of mine is made in contempt of the House. It follows our practice. If the hon. Gentleman looks in the seventeenth edition of Erskine May, at the appropriate pages, one of which I think is 351 and the other of which is 364, he will find justification for my Ruling.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.37.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-19", "file": "debates1965-01-19a.xml", "sha256": "c448915c4e5b06a6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.39.7", "colnum": "39", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MILITARY EXPENDITURE OVERSEAS (ESTIMATES COMMITTEE'S REPORTS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "ership of the Estimates Committee. I think that it would be the wish of the House that I should pay tribute to the hon. Member for his services on that Committee. His disinterested, hard and largely unpublicised labour in the interest of the House and of the Estimates Committee and the nation was much appreciated by all of us who understood what was entailed and we shall greatly miss his services.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-19a.39.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.174.1", "colnum": "174", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RAILWAYS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "While thanking my right hon. Friend for the steps that he has already taken, may I remind him—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.174.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.175.2", "colnum": "175", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RAILWAYS", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "preceding_text": " right hon. Friend seen the cutting from the Wolverhampton Express and Star , which I have sent to the Front Bench, describing an accident sustained by one of his hon. Friends resulting from a fall on an icy platform, an accident which brought that hon. Member within a few inches of very serious injury? Does he not agree that this is a hazard to which country platforms are essentially susceptible?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.175.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.186.3", "colnum": "186", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How much?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "preceding_text": "I do not accept all the implications or assertions in the hon. Gentleman's supplementary question. We recognise that underpasses and flyovers are much more desirable. The difficulty is that they are far more expensive—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.186.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.188.4", "colnum": "188", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the news that there is to be a general extension of the nationalised road haulage industry will be regretted throughout the country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.188.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.192.6", "colnum": "192", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SHIPPING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "Does the Minister realise that this is very important to the north of Scotland and that parts of this island have the advantages of communications with the Continent which are denied to Aberdeen? Will he take steps to see—I am not asking for a Channel tunnel from Aberdeen—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.192.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.343.1", "colnum": "343", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "preceding_text": " is not yet with us, it would be unfair to press the Secretary of State to defend this statement by Mr. Cousins, but I put it on the record in support of my thesis that we have good reasons to be suspicious of the Government's intentions. There are many statements by the Prime Minister, not least his Scarborough speech of 1st October, 1963, but I will not detain the Committee by quoting from them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.343.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.343.1", "colnum": "343", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "preceding_text": "uote, but I think that one can make the Prime Minister's point more shortly in the language of the Labour Party Manifesto, which certainly may be taken as the official view of the party opposite, when it said on page 9 of \"The New Britain\": A Labour Government will go beyond research and development and establish new industries, either by public enterprise, or in partnership with private industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.343.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.343.1", "colnum": "343", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "preceding_text": "s more than the cloven hoof. The whole tail of the beast is now emerging. I should like to remind the Committee of some of the reasons why we on this side of the Committee think that it is not desirable for the Government to indulge in setting up State industries as a method of promoting technological advance. In our view, first of all, the classical arguments against nationalisation remain valid.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.343.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.343.1", "colnum": "343", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The national interest.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "preceding_text": "the arguments which they advance in favour of it and put them in front of a mirror they will have the arguments against. Secondly, there is the assumption that if a venture is State-owned it is more purposive, which is the Prime Minister's phrase, than if privately owned. One asks by what criteria purpose is to be measured. The Prime Minister has never told us by what criteria he measures purpose.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.343.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.357.0", "colnum": "357", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "preceding_text": "ed the Chamber there seemed to be a good deal of to-ing and fro-ing as to who should nationalise what, and perhaps I may give my version of what I see to be the case which my party presents. It is that we see before us—and I think that the Committee must agree with this—a great deal of public enterprise, a vast amount of nationalised industry, of nationalised undertakings of one kind and another.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.357.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.358.0", "colnum": "358", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "ully and frankly. It appears to me that this Clause as it stands, if it is not amended as proposed, provides a loophole for further embarkation on public enterprise without proper discussion in the House. Related to this I would wish to give the Committee another point. I hope I am not out of order by anticipating a Question which I hope to ask the Minister of Technology when he enters the House—-", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.358.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.358.0", "colnum": "358", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He will.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "use as it stands, if it is not amended as proposed, provides a loophole for further embarkation on public enterprise without proper discussion in the House. Related to this I would wish to give the Committee another point. I hope I am not out of order by anticipating a Question which I hope to ask the Minister of Technology when he enters the House—-[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]—later, if he does—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.358.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.359.3", "colnum": "359", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The Minister has told you.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. Yates", "preceding_text": "rstand that nationalisation means the complete taking over, lock stock and barrel, of an industry. If, under this Clause, or by this Bill, it will be possible for the Minister of Technology to start a new industry, or to take over a private one, we want to know more about it. That is the sort of thing which everybody in the country wants to know. What does the Labour Party mean by nationalisation?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.359.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-20", "file": "debates1965-01-20a.xml", "sha256": "11361538008a02e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.359.4", "colnum": "359", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who wrote about it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "preceding_text": "arty Clause Four, which is the root and base of their philosophy, which means the complete control of all means of production, distribution, and exchange. That is what we wish to be clear about. I am not quite sure whether the Government are trying to tell the people that nationalisation as it was thought of 20 years ago—when it was written about by you-know-who—is different from what it is today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-20a.359.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.379.5", "colnum": "379", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — WALES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "Would not the right hon. Gentleman agree that it is quite scandalous that Socialist-controlled councils should continue to refuse to sell freeholds to owner-occupiers in Wales? Does not he agree that it would be a worth-while gesture if they were brought in line with private landlords in this respect?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.379.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.384.4", "colnum": "384", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rhodes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rhodes", "preceding_text": "orld War, and that, of those, 7 were built in the age of Queen Victoria; and that of the 13 county secondary schools in the area, 9 were built before the First World War, five being built in the last century? In the light of those facts, would not he agree that the severe cuts in the school building programme during his predecessor's term of office was a misguided policy, and will he bear in mind—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.384.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.385.2", "colnum": "385", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. W. Elliott", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. W. Elliott", "preceding_text": "f the local Labour education authority? Is he aware that a great deal of school building has been done in Newcastle since 1959, but that there has been a concentration on the building of a large comprehensive school in the west end of the city, and plans for a large comprehensive school in the east end of the city, and that these two projects have militated against the repair of the older schools—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.385.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.386.1", "colnum": "386", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Knox Cunningham", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. I would point out that it is nearly 3 o'clock, and we have only had nine Questions. Could it be possible—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.386.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.391.6", "colnum": "391", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "No, I could not absolutely rule it out.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.391.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.393.4", "colnum": "393", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "The Secretary of State will be aware that at present the council in Bristol takes up more than 25 per cent. of the places at a number of direct grant schools. It proposes to discontinue this practice altogether, thus reducing the number of free places available, putting up the fees for other children—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.393.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.394.2", "colnum": "394", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "Gentleman has mentioned, that these schools do not draw only from one area, means that their future does not depend only on the action of a particular local authority. The right hon. and learned Gentleman asks me to take steps. We must be clear about this. Is he saying that I ought to order a local authority to take up places at a direct grant school when in its judgment it does not wish to do so?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.394.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.399.2", "colnum": "399", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "It is not quite clear where the Opposition stand on this question, because it was not mentioned in speeches from the Front Bench opposite until nearly the end of the day when one speaker said that he had forgotten to mention it and the position was as had been stated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.399.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.400.1", "colnum": "400", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Tomorrow afternoon.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "sistent in thinking that talks of this kind would be valuable between the Government and the Opposition of the day, whoever happens to be in either position. I agree that this is an extremely important matter. We would be very happy to discuss it with the Leader of the Opposition and the right hon. Gentleman, or whoever is considered appropriate here, and see on what basis progress should be made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.400.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.400.4", "colnum": "400", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "This is spreading the net wide in the Leadership problem.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.400.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.400.9", "colnum": "400", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I thought for one moment, obviously rashly, that the hon. Member's Question was a serious one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.400.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.421.0", "colnum": "421", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": "ium. It seems to me necessary that the innovators should tolerate each other. We don't want, at least I don't, a uniform national plan. What we do want is that each local plan shall be carefully thought out, discussed with the teachers, accepted by them, and operated in the interests of the whole local community without respect of social class, income groups, occupations or political affiliations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.419.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.424.1", "colnum": "424", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": " the Education Act that they should retain control over their own entry. I sincerely hope that the right hon. Gentleman will not seek to abolish these schools or their special status, or bully or bribe them into abandoning the position which they negotiated with the authorities under the Education Act. They serve an extremely useful purpose. They probably cover a wider social range than any other—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.424.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.446.4", "colnum": "446", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "ople's minds at so early an age. That was well illustrated by a recent article in The Times, which actually ended up by saying that, after all, society is divided up into what it called subcultures, and doctors are one and dockers are another. It argued that one of the purposes of our educational system was to preserve those sub-cultures. Dockers, it said, like their sons to be dockers, and so on—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.446.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.448.1", "colnum": "448", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Grant", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Grant", "preceding_text": "in some circumstances putting large numbers of children under one roof can exasperate rather than relieve those social tensions and barriers which hon. Members genuinely wish to see swept away. The broad view of educationists on this issue is that perhaps the comprehensive system raises the academic level of the ordinary child but at the same time it tends to lower the level of the brighter child.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.448.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.468.1", "colnum": "468", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Thank you very much.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "ay that the answer is the comprehensive system, without producing any argument for the comprehensive system beyond saying that children in secondary modern schools are becoming as able as those in the grammar schools, is to say that there has been a good deal of progress in the last 20 years and is to pay an indirect compliment to the teaching profession for what it has achieved in this direction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.468.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.471.5", "colnum": "471", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Twenty-four.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Russell Johnston", "preceding_text": "What does the hon. Gentleman think the maximum size of a secondary school should be?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.471.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.471.6", "colnum": "471", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "I do not know who remarked \"Twenty four\", but there is a good deal to be said for it. One could have two football teams and a touch judge on either side. It is, I suppose, about the minimum number one could have in a school. A fluid figure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.471.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.481.1", "colnum": "481", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Joseph Hiley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Joseph Hiley", "preceding_text": "e tentative suggestions to the area advisory boards, but they were so criticised that they were ultimately abandoned and work is continuing in an effort to find a satisfactory scheme. My hon. Friend the Member for Ormskirk (Sir D. Glover) said that the 11-plus system had failed. I do not think that it has and I am certain that there is no better system, simply because no one has yet suggested one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.481.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.486.1", "colnum": "486", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "ls as Manchester Grammar School—and the Manchester High School for Girls, which is another first-class school—where working-class children have the right to go, irrespective of the purse, if they pass the necessary examination. We have in Manchester famous denominational schools such as the Xaverian College, St. Bede's, The Hollies and Loretto. What we have to do is not to rush the whole question—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.486.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.504.1", "colnum": "504", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Hamling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamling", "preceding_text": "bers of my family have been proud to have been educated at the Liverpool Institute and I share the honour with my hon. Friend the Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Sydney Silverman), who, of course, went there a few years before I did. We also share it with two other gentlemen distinguished in entertainment—two of the Beatles. I am not sure that my old headmaster would have been very proud of them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.504.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.507.0", "colnum": "507", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "fternoon. He has mentioned Liverpool. We have had no mention of Bristol. London has been concerned in this campaign for 20 years. Is its experience not worth lengthy examination in an important debate like this? May I again refer to Kidbrooke? As I say, it has had to contend with a great deal of denigration over the years—with stories about half the sixth form being pregnant, and things like that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.507.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.514.1", "colnum": "514", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "preceding_text": " on precisely that subject. It is rather interesting that one correspondent actually went so far as to write that streaming is completely alien to the comprehensive school philosophy and that any comprehensive school that fails to recognise this relinquishes the right to its name. I must say that for anyone seriously to maintain that there shall be no streaming or setting in comprehensive schools—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.514.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.520.1", "colnum": "520", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of State, Department of Education and Science (Mr. R. E. Prentice)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of State, Department of Education and Science (Mr. R. E. Prentice)", "preceding_text": "hing about it and hon. and right hon. Members opposite are not, because the sum total of the advice given us by hon. Members opposite boils down to the fact that here is a system which is educationally unsound and socially unjust to large numbers of our children, and this they condemn, but they are prepared to advocate policies which mean the continuation of that system into the indefinite future.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.520.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.520.1", "colnum": "520", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of State, Department of Education and Science (Mr. R. E. Prentice)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It grew bigger.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of State, Department of Education and Science (Mr. R. E. Prentice)", "preceding_text": "uccesses are only one, and not necessarily the most important, of the indices of the success of a school. Nevertheless, these figures tell a story. In the last year, 1955, when this school was a separate grammar school the boys in the fifth form taking O-level secured between them 197 O-level passes. Last year, the fifth form gained 717 O-level passes. In 1955, the last summer as a grammar school—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.520.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-21", "file": "debates1965-01-21a.xml", "sha256": "f7ffadc62698ad8f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.527.0", "colnum": "527", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM AND GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Prentice", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nor their children.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Prentice", "preceding_text": "e city was organised on a comprehensive basis and half on a selective basis. The evidence was such that the Swedish Government decided to go comprehensive and now seven-eighths of the total number of Swedish children are educated under a comprehensive system. I do not know whether those hon. Members opposite who call for experiments would volunteer their constituencies for that kind of experiment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-21a.527.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-22", "file": "debates1965-01-22a.xml", "sha256": "4727261e4ebca39d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-22a.559.7", "colnum": "559", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MINISTERIAL SALARIES AND MEMBERS' PENSIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Caliban?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "preceding_text": "ght creatures. In the present Government, however, we find that some Ministers of State are given a considerably elevated position and greater responsibility than Ministers of State have been given in the past. I have mentioned one example, the Minister of State, Foreign Office. Then we have the case of the noble Lord whose name I find difficult to pronounce because I am not Cornish, Lord Caradon—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-22a.559.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-01-22", "file": "debates1965-01-22a.xml", "sha256": "4727261e4ebca39d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-22a.562.4", "colnum": "562", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MINISTERIAL SALARIES AND MEMBERS' PENSIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. Cary", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Crooks?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Cary", "preceding_text": "bers of the Government and the Prime Minister's duty will be to nominate those who are to serve as private Members. This is the beginning of a most dangerous operation. I should like to see the position regularised. I would much rather that the vain boasts made by the Prime Minister during the election campaign, that he would streamline the Government had resulted not in a greater number of cooks—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-01-22a.562.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-01", "file": "debates1965-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "8f144a221dc70f18", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.702.5", "colnum": "702", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ridsdale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ridsdale", "preceding_text": "Would not the Minister agree, whilst there was no need to have such an index under the last Administration—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.702.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-01", "file": "debates1965-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "8f144a221dc70f18", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.706.8", "colnum": "706", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "We have nothing at all to hide on this. On Second Reading of the Bill I gave the administrative reason—and those administrative reasons still stand—why the pension increases could not be paid until the end of March. I then tried to work out some other means of paying to the old people the amount of money. It was only then that economic reasons came out—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.706.8"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-01", "file": "debates1965-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "8f144a221dc70f18", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.725.0", "colnum": "725", "heading": "ROYAL AIR FORCE (VALIANT AIRCRAFT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "I thank the Minister for that statement and fully appreciate the reason why it was postponed from last time. Will the right hon. Gentleman confirm what a magnificent job these Valiant bombers, which were designed, and in part constructed, under the last Labour Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.725.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-01", "file": "debates1965-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "8f144a221dc70f18", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.726.2", "colnum": "726", "heading": "ROYAL AIR FORCE (VALIANT AIRCRAFT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "Without accepting for one moment the attempts to decry the validity of the Royal Air Force machines—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.726.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-01", "file": "debates1965-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "8f144a221dc70f18", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.727.3", "colnum": "727", "heading": "ROYAL AIR FORCE (VALIANT AIRCRAFT)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": "Is the Minister aware that his earlier statement will do little to encourage the V-bomber crews now based in Malaysia facing Indonesia?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.727.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-01", "file": "debates1965-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "8f144a221dc70f18", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.732.0", "colnum": "732", "heading": "KINROSS AND WEST PERTH CONSTITUENCY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Mr. Speaker—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.732.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-01", "file": "debates1965-02-01a.xml", "sha256": "8f144a221dc70f18", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.745.1", "colnum": "745", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CONTROL OF OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hall", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And whether a certificate will be issued for the accommodation.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hall", "preceding_text": " carry out those recommendations. It might be interesting to know where it is proposed to locate the additional staff which will be required to administer the Bill. As I understand the financial provisions, about £100,000 a year is estimated as the additional cost of the staff required. The staff will require office accommodation somewhere, and it would be nice to hear where they are to be housed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-01a.745.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.875.7", "colnum": "875", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — LOCAL GOVERNMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "One of the good fortunes of the Table is that they do not have to discuss such matters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.875.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.879.0", "colnum": "879", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman knows quite well that that was not a pledge in the manifesto—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.879.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.879.4", "colnum": "879", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "Let me repeat to the hon. Gentleman what I said before. We are going to honour our pledges with the proper priorities—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.879.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.880.0", "colnum": "880", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Reading.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "preceding_text": "In view of the preface to \"The New Britain\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.880.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.884.6", "colnum": "884", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Did you sing it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Diligent researches on my part in quite a number of visits to Moscow in the past have established that the tune to which the hon. Member is referring is totally unknown in Moscow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.884.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.887.2", "colnum": "887", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Reading.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "preceding_text": "Can the House assume from this Answer that the Government are taking no steps whatever in this regard? Is the Prime Minister aware that his Government's policy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.887.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.888.5", "colnum": "888", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "In view of that reply, would my right hon. Friend consider ensuring that at the point of payment the pension will have the value which it had when it was decided to increase it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.888.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.889.3", "colnum": "889", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "I wonder what influence the Prime Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.889.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.897.3", "colnum": "897", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " begin the count-down on the Government now. My first count against them is closely related to the Amendment which they have put on the Order Paper, and I intend to treat that Amendment seriously, as well as the argument in it. They, in their Amendment, say that they inherited a crisis. We say, and this is now capable of proof, that the crisis was created by hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.897.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.897.3", "colnum": "897", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " the account of the economy and progress that the country was likely to make which he gave to the Commonwealth Finance Ministers in September and to the International Bank. There was no suggestion at either of those meetings that there was, or was likely to be, any crisis involving the value of the £. It was recognised, of course, that there was the problem of increasing exports from this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.897.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.897.3", "colnum": "897", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "the value of the £ sterling. There was no crisis, I would remind the Prime Minister, on the rundown to the General Election, nor during it, although it was a very testing time, nor after it, even though right hon. Gentlemen opposite, for what they conceived to be political advantage, on every occasion bandied about the figure of the assessed deficit of £800 million. There was no crisis, even then.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.897.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.897.3", "colnum": "897", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " apparent that the real crisis involving the value of the £ dated from the time when people overseas got the double shock of the method which led to the surcharge fiasco and the Chancellor of the Exchequer's Budget, which was irrelevant to the problems of the time. However, everyone knew that Britain had to get through a particularly difficult period in 1964, in particular the last months of 1964.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.897.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.901.1", "colnum": "901", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "cessary, and has been highly damaging to Britain. The second example I would give is the aircraft industry. I think that the Prime Minister is making the aircraft industry a feature of his speech this afternoon—for transparent reasons. The Government are, of course, right to keep the development of these large aviation and aircraft programmes under constant review—no one would complain about that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.901.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.901.1", "colnum": "901", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "velopment of these large aviation and aircraft programmes under constant review—no one would complain about that. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] It is the method of handling all these matters that is so much at fault, and I want to make some very serious points to the right hon. Gentleman on our aviation and aircraft development. Nobody has been pressing the Prime Minister to make announcements about this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.901.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.901.1", "colnum": "901", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "l to take the big decision first is that it is so very easy to create a situation in which design teams and technicians are disbanded because there is nothing worth while left for them to do. If that happens the country will be left without the ability to develop sophisticated aircraft of this kind at all. There would then be no alternative—let us face this—but to buy American at America's prices.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.901.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.905.0", "colnum": "905", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Brown", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Brown", "preceding_text": "The Prime Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.905.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.905.1", "colnum": "905", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman eventually got it right, I hope that his prophecy will prove more accurate than many of the Government's have proved. What I said was that these time scales are extremely narrow when we have to consider whether to have the TSR2 or the TFX.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.905.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.905.3", "colnum": "905", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " of the First Secretary that he would tackle rising prices at the roots? I do not question the right hon. Gentleman's intentions. He has a statement of intent on incomes policy, which I welcome. He is establishing machinery, I understand, to inquire into rising prices. I understand that he is calling it a court. I hope that it will not be an inquisition. We shall be vigilant to see that it is not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.905.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.905.3", "colnum": "905", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "e cautious. For instance, let him ask the local authorities how much the autumn taxes are adding to their estimates for 1965. He will find all over the country very substantial additions, and these have to be carried by the rates; and local authorities are not interested in squeezing the public. My next indictment is that if the Government have a shred of political integrity, they ought to resign.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.905.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.908.1", "colnum": "908", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "preceding_text": "Mr. Eric Lubbock (Orpington) rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.908.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.908.2", "colnum": "908", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "he unspeakable folly of this is that these orders have gone to the United States—our ally in defence of democracy. I hope that the British workers who are deprived of their work and earnings will march on Downing Street, because this loss was the Prime Minister's own doing. The first task of the Conservative Government to come will be to restore confidence in Britain and to convince the foreigner—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.908.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.908.2", "colnum": "908", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " at the beginning of my speech of the statements by right hon. Gentlemen opposite which preceded the 100 days. We are now getting more considered and erudite statements about the attitude of the Government to the next 100 days. One example has been given by Lord Bowden, in Australia. He said: Mr. Wilson needs to give Britain a kick in the backside and if he cannot do it, nobody can. I want to ask—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.908.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.910.3", "colnum": "910", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Resign.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "vernment, and pledges its support for remedial measures to strengthen the country's economy and security and provide rising standards for the British people\". I think that the all-time high or low of the Leader of the Opposition's speech —it depends how one looks at it—in terms of measuring his sincerity was his thrice-repeated call for an early General Election. This, from a right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.910.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.910.3", "colnum": "910", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "inute because he was afraid of the electorate, and who, by doing so, made much worse an economic situation about which his own Chancellor of the Exchequer had warned him. I was interested in some of the right hon. Gentleman's obiter dicta. Most of the right hon. Gentleman's speech was taken from a Tory Central Office pamphlet, which I have here. He missed a rather neat point on page 45, I thought.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.910.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.911.0", "colnum": "911", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bernard Braine", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bernard Braine", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. The Prime Minister has referred to a pamphlet which is not in the possession of the House. Fortunately, I have a copy in my hand. The right hon. Gentleman referred—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.911.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.911.2", "colnum": "911", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Braine", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Braine", "preceding_text": "I wondered whether the Prime Minister was referring to the point in the pamphlet which says—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.911.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.911.6", "colnum": "911", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Rolf Dudley Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Rolf Dudley Williams", "preceding_text": "With respect, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, I would have thought that it was relevant and in order for the Prime Minister to refer to a document which points out that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.911.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.913.4", "colnum": "913", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "It was not on a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I want to say to the Prime Minister that I think I can help here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.913.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.913.8", "colnum": "913", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I was about to refer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.913.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.913.10", "colnum": "913", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No confidence.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ledge given to the brewers to allow them to open tied \"pubs\" in new towns. The one pledge. Their other two pledges in that election—to \"mend the hole in the purse\" and to reduce Government expenditure by £700 million—were never carried out in 13 years. I do not intend to spend too much time on the right hon. Gentleman's speech itself, because we all recognise that in moving a Motion of confidence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.913.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.913.10", "colnum": "913", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Resign.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "nment expenditure by £700 million—were never carried out in 13 years. I do not intend to spend too much time on the right hon. Gentleman's speech itself, because we all recognise that in moving a Motion of confidence—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No confidence.\"]—it is a bit hard to tell sometimes—and in calling for a General Election, the right hon. Gentleman has no intention or hope of succeeding with either.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.913.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.914.1", "colnum": "914", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "s hon. Members opposite did not vote against it. They did, of course, vote against the means of paying for the increases. This is a measure of their responsibility. We should know the attitude of hon. Members opposite to this question, because we are talking about the record of the first 100 days of this Government. Was it hasty of us to raise pensions or not? If it was unnecessarily precipitate —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.914.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.914.1", "colnum": "914", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "hese questions to the right hon. Gentleman, because we get so many different answers from different Front Bench Members who claim to be the alternative Government, although the right hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Mr. Powell) would disagree with a lot of them on everything. I have to ask the Leader of the Opposition, as mover of the Motion, where he stands. Since he agrees, presumably—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.914.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.917.7", "colnum": "917", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "preceding_text": "Sir Keith Joseph (Leeds, North-East) rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.917.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.918.2", "colnum": "918", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Cheap.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I will give way to the so-called Leader of the Opposition, not to the candidates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.918.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.918.6", "colnum": "918", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Now, I come—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.918.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1", "colnum": "920", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "or St. Marylebone (Mr. Hogg), but I noticed that in one of those outbursts of sick humour in The Guardian this week he was put in the short list of three for the candidature. To take another case, the decision announced by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport to halt all major railway closures except those where the position had been decided by his predecessor. Was this a hasty decision?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1", "colnum": "920", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "pposition says nothing at all. Then there is our decision to reverse the action of the previous Government, when time after time for, I should have thought, doctrinaire ideological reasons they refused to allow railway workshops to tender for private contracts for rolling stock on a competitive basis. We put this right. Was that hasty? Did right hon. and hon. Members opposite agree with it or not?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1", "colnum": "920", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "the Opposition on these answers, despite the fact that the hon. Member for Ormskirk (Sir D. Glover) is trying to answer some of these questions. The Leader of the Opposition did not single out any one of these instances which I have mentioned of important legislation or action by the Government. He did not deal with any of these. He had his own short list, and to that short list of his I now turn.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1", "colnum": "920", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Tell us.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "own short list, and to that short list of his I now turn. [ Interruption. ] The House will recognise that I am moving an Amendment. I am speaking to that Amendment and I intend to go on speaking to it. The right hon. Gentleman did not even stick to his Motion, but I will refer to the case that he made. On the question of tariff surcharges, does he really think that we acted precipitately? Does he?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1", "colnum": "920", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about capital investment?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " trade from the beginning of 1963, seasonally adjusted. These are the straight trade figures, the balance of imports against exports and re-exports. These are the straightforward trade figures on an f.o.b. basis—nothing to do with financial transactions, no speculative movements, no leads and lags, just the straightforward balance of trade measurable figures which are available to the whole House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.920.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.923.2", "colnum": "923", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about aircraft?", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ority as Prime Minister for this kind of electioneering, was a total misleading of the country. Does he still think that he was right in saying that the economy had seldom, if ever, been stronger? Does he, in the light of these figures, think that he was giving the country an honest picture when he said that? I will give way to the right hon. Gentleman if he wants me to do so. They were all in it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.923.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.923.3", "colnum": "923", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " other aspect raised by the right hon. Gentleman I shall come to the wider aspects of the aircraft programme and expenditure, as I promised. First, however, I want to refer, as did the right hon. Gentleman, to the autumn Budget—the November Budget. Unless the right hon. Gentleman is going to say, which he did not, that we should not have increased pensions, he must accept the need for that Budget.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.923.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.923.3", "colnum": "923", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ing them one can do it without having to make room in the economy. One does not need budgetary provision for it. But when the nation begins to deploy more of its industrial resources on exports, and more factories produce the goods that we need, so that we do not have to get them on the slate from abroad, we need a bigger Budget surplus. That is what my right hon. Friend's Budget aimed to achieve.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.923.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.923.3", "colnum": "923", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "n the slate from abroad, we need a bigger Budget surplus. That is what my right hon. Friend's Budget aimed to achieve. [ Interruption. ] On every question I ask, whenever I want an answer somebody opposite wants me to slip on as quickly as possible to another subject. I can understand that. I shall now refer to what the right hon. Gentleman said about the corporation tax and the capital gains tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.923.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.928.5", "colnum": "928", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "from unearned capital gains. Again on the question of uncertainty, the right hon. and learned Member for Wirral announced his own capital gains tax, such as it was—a poor thing but his own—on 25th July, 1961, and he did not bring forward legislation until 16th April, 1962. And when we hear from the right hon. Gentleman this afternoon that this is causing uncertainty and unsettlement in investment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.928.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.928.5", "colnum": "928", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Round and round.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "oming to this, but there have been a lot of interruptions from hon. Gentlemen opposite. I hope to be able to give them a statement on this, but if they do not get it, it will be their fault, not mine. As I have already told the House, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence is engaged in a detailed round-the-clock, round-the-globe examination of our defence policy, our commitments—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.928.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.928.5", "colnum": "928", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "e-clock, round-the-globe examination of our defence policy, our commitments—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Round and round.\"] I am prepared to leave this and to make the statement on another occasion if hon. Gentlemen interrupt, if they are more interested in the kind of behaviour we have had than in a matter of vital concern to the defences of this country. Some of the points of order we have had, well, really—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.928.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.957.1", "colnum": "957", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\".", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": ", if that be proved, it must be shown that it is not too great a price to pay in terms of British industry, British exports, British jobs, British prestige and Britain's future. For the future, two main so-called remedial measures are already held out for the attraction of the country. They are land and steel, the Gog and Magog of the Socialist theology. About land I agree that there is a problem.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.957.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.957.1", "colnum": "957", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "e provision of land, frustrating good development and expropriating property, it will be a classic case of imposing a great and certain detriment in pursuit of a small and hypothetical gain, a classic case of burning down the house to get roast pig. When these land measures are produced I will certainly, if I am fortunate enough to catch the eye of Mr. Speaker, then have some contribution to make—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.957.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.960.1", "colnum": "960", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Which were mixed?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "e was speaking, I wondered what he was driving at. What was his purpose? He made a reference to the virtues of the Conservative Party which made me wonder whether he had any thought of being included in the short list for the leadership of that party. If that was his idea, he will be singularly unsuccessful. His opponents are too weighty for him. Apart from a few mixed metaphors—very mixed indeed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.960.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.964.2", "colnum": "964", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The right hon. Gentleman always played it down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "fair and beneath his usual standard. Throughout the whole of those negotiations and the debates in the House, there was no occasion when I denigrated my country. Secondly, the right hon. Gentleman has never been able to grasp the purpose which those of us had who were engaged in the negotiations, which was the political purpose of creating a greater unity in Europe, with which would be associated—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.964.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.965.4", "colnum": "965", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Of course he is; that is obvious. He is afraid to admit what was the purpose behind the attempt to join the Six at the time. Moreover, what about the references to the Commonwealth? The Commonwealth, we were told, was finished. Trade with the Commonwealth was declining. The Commonwealth was no longer important.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.965.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.988.1", "colnum": "988", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir Charles Mott-Radclyffe", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No, we were not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Charles Mott-Radclyffe", "preceding_text": "al of detail in it miscues it is more embarrassing still. The plain fact remains that there is absolutely nothing left of the Government's manifesto. It is all in shreds. The Prime Minister made great play with the increased pensions and other benefits which are to come into operation next month, but during the election we were told that we could have increased benefits without increased taxation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.988.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.996.1", "colnum": "996", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": " is much respected in the House and who has a vast record of public service in many Departments should find himself compelled to leave politics because he sees no future on the Opposition Front Bench and no hope, presumably, of his talents being satisfactorily used by it. The Government have done badly at two by-elections. There were very special circumstances and there were very trying immediate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.996.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1001.1", "colnum": "1001", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "I must look at the record. I understood the hon. Gentleman said that I was inviting people to sell sterling short. If he said that, it is wholly untrue, and unworthy even of him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1001.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1002.1", "colnum": "1002", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": "Mr. Hooson rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1002.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1004.5", "colnum": "1004", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "I repeat, the Post Office. The Government published figures that they knew to be false, having cut out figures they knew should be there. Now that I have justified it, can the right hon. Gentleman show that I am wrong?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1004.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1005.0", "colnum": "1005", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "If the right hon. Gentleman says that figures were published by the Post Office which were known to be false at the time—that is what he did say—then we must have this out. But so far as the Treasury is concerned—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1005.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1005.0", "colnum": "1005", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": " in order books in the engineering industry rose sharply in November at home, and even more so abroad. The fact is that the figures for December show that the balance on current account was virtually level; that the deficit on current account in December had, in effect, been eliminated. None of this has anything whatever to do with the Government. I am sure that if the Prime Minister were present—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1005.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1008.0", "colnum": "1008", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "Then why did the Chancellor of the Exchequer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1008.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1010.1", "colnum": "1010", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "ate of the nation or with the future of the nation. Neither the terms of the Motion nor the speech of the Leader of the Opposition had anything to do with either. To judge from the terms of the Motion and from the speech of the Leader of the Opposition, there might never have been any problems facing this country. I agree on this point with the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Liberal Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1010.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1010.1", "colnum": "1010", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "sin. They disapprove of sinners and they are in favour of all good works. Speaking as an Anglican, I must say that theologically that is a very good posture but in human and practical terms it must be regarded on the whole as a trifle idealistic. It is not surprising, therefore, that they have decided to contract out of the issue at the end of the day. I want to say to them that life has to go on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1010.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1014.1", "colnum": "1014", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": " hon. Gentleman said today that we should, that the country ought to accept that the urgent industrial requirement was to become more competitive. This, I accept, is an absolute, urgent requirement, particularly as we must not remain, or seem to remain, protective in any sense. What have we done to get more competition? We went straight away to get a prices and incomes policy. I am not very clear—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1014.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1014.3", "colnum": "1014", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "We have also tried to break the spiral of price and wage advances in the interim. We have had a great deal of help. We have had help from businessmen, from people like Mr. Kearton of Courtaulds, from distributors, from paying Conservatives like Mr. Sieff. The only people who have obstructed us have been right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1014.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1014.5", "colnum": "1014", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "ore, gone ahead to examine the problem. I shall not repeat what my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister said earlier, but I say to this House and to the country that if we are to get competitive, if we are to pay our way in the world, then we must stop wasting the money that we are wasting, we must stop misusing resources that are being misused and we must pay much more attention to effectiveness.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1014.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1015.1", "colnum": "1015", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "g that we have set out to do is to redeploy resources and manpower. That is why we set out, as a matter of urgency, to provide measures to enable men and women to move more easily. One of the problems of our society is that if we have under-use of resources in the North-East and over-use in the South-East we are not able to get people to move because we have not made it possible for them to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1015.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1015.1", "colnum": "1015", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "ld be freed by any changes in the defence spending programme—in particular, in the case of the aircraft industry. It is not our purpose to leave people without jobs nor to leave factories underused. It is our purpose to see—unlike the party opposite—that they are used for things that will enable this country to pay its way and to expand the economy. I have been asked about Short Bros. and Harland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1015.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1015.1", "colnum": "1015", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "gely publicly owned, with a particularly difficult problem, since it had been counting on getting a substantial share of the work. We are urgently considering what other work can be fed in to replace this. Shorts occupy a special place in the economy of Northern Ireland, and it is important that the fullest use should be made of the company's resources. We therefore propose to appoint consultants—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1015.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1016.1", "colnum": "1016", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "That is the purpose of asking the consultants to come in. I know the company well, as the hon. Gentleman knows, and I know the management well. I do not think he will find that this is badly received over there.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1016.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1016.1", "colnum": "1016", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "e achieved this, and it is a tremendous indictment of right hon. and hon. Members opposite that they are not willing to say a word of tribute even to their own friends, let alone ours. The White Paper states: We\"— that is, the Trades Union Congress, the F.B.I., the B.E.C. and the Association of British Manufacturers and the Association of British Chambers of Commerce, without a single dissentient—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1016.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1016.1", "colnum": "1016", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "word of tribute even to their own friends, let alone ours. The White Paper states: We\"— that is, the Trades Union Congress, the F.B.I., the B.E.C. and the Association of British Manufacturers and the Association of British Chambers of Commerce, without a single dissentient—[ Interruption. ] The hon. Member for Sevenoaks (Sir J. Rodgers) is quite wrong. Will you listen? May I read it: We\"— that is—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1016.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1018.1", "colnum": "1018", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "I do not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1018.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-02", "file": "debates1965-02-02a.xml", "sha256": "8fb4a00d4c9d548e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1018.3", "colnum": "1018", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "I do not give way because I have only two minutes left. When the Leader of the Opposition was asked to intervene this afternoon, he would not do so. He just sat there. All that I can say at the end of this debate is this. This is the way that we have tackled—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-02a.1018.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1047.6", "colnum": "1047", "heading": "PRIVATE BUSINESS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "preceding_text": "t present today. You will observe, Sir, that all these Private Bills for which Second Readings are sought are from very responsible local authorities. The object, presumably, of opposing their Second Readings is that the hon. Members who have put their names down desire more time to consider these Bills to see whether they object to them. There is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see, but—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1047.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1056.0", "colnum": "1056", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "I declared that we would be anxious to provide medium-term credit for farmers. That still stands. How we shall do it is a matter for discussion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1056.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1057.2", "colnum": "1057", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Member for Bedford (Mr. Soames) had a much longer period in which to make a decision than I have had. I will make a decision. Indeed, I have already in my mind made a decision.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1057.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1066.3", "colnum": "1066", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. It is essential that hon. Members giving notice should adhere to the traditional formula and not introduce into it matters quite inappropriate to the notice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1066.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1094.1", "colnum": "1094", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Disgraceful.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": " claimants then brought actions against the Crown in the Scottish courts at the end of 1961. Her Majesty's Government of the day determined to resist them and, as hon. Members may be aware, took an important further step in giving an explicit warning to all the claimants in writing that, if the claims were successfully pursued, legislation would be introduced to indemnify the Crown and its agents—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1094.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1097.1", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Generosity.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "ompensation. In such a situation no one directs his mind to these questions. Their actions are dictated by military necessity. The only loss or liability incurred by the claimants on the faith of the existing law is their liability to costs in the current litigation and the Bill provides that this action can only be dismissed subject to such orders as to costs as the court shall see fit to impose.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1097.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1099.1", "colnum": "1099", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A dissenting opinion.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I can answer that best by quoting a passage from the judgment of Lord Radcliffe in the case.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1099.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1099.1", "colnum": "1099", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "nks, the owner must bear the loss. All that the Bill does is to remove from a specially privileged position those persons whose property was destroyed not for the purposes of the immediate tactical situation, but for the wider strategic purposes of the war effort. In an era of total war, special property rights should not be preserved which are based upon medieval conceptions of the nature of war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1099.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1128.3", "colnum": "1128", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ivor Richard", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ivor Richard", "preceding_text": "y be the first objection to the Bill—and it gets rid of the principle that the law should be certain as declared by the highest court in the land; also that the Bill is contrary to a certain basic idea of equity, that there is something basically unfair in allowing a man to litigate and then, when the decision goes against the Government, for the Government to turn round and reverse that decision.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1128.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1134.1", "colnum": "1134", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": "I am obliged to the hon. and learned Member. That was the next point I intended to try to answer. One cannot decide whether this retrospective legislation is or is not justified until one first decides whether the claim that one is trying to reverse would or would not be justified in itself. It seems to me that the attempt to divorce the two—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1134.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1134.1", "colnum": "1134", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": "d have legislated then we will not legislate now. That does not seem to me to be logical or consistent and it seems to me to be the main point in favour of the Bill. The effect of the Bill, if passed, would be to put the Burmah Oil Co. back in precisely the same position as it would have been if in 1945 this House had passed the retrospective legislation that, I suggest, it would have passed then.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1134.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1142.1", "colnum": "1142", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Retrospectively.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "If my hon. Friend will hear the end of my argument, he may still think it is irrelevant, but he will be in a better position to form a judgment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1142.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1142.1", "colnum": "1142", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "If my hon. Friend will hear the end of my argument, he may still think it is irrelevant, but he will be in a better position to form a judgment. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Retrospectively.\"] What I am saying is that the actual loss was inevitable in the circumstances of the war—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1142.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1142.3", "colnum": "1142", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Hon. Gentleman is not the judge.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "ice in Tokio and made a claim against the Japanese Government. I do not think that that is a matter which the House of Commons, in 1965, ought to be asked to take into account. The question is not whether the company was ultimately able to prove that the Japanese would not in those circumstances have destroyed it. I would not accept the evidence even if it were produced, but that is not the point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1142.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1172.5", "colnum": "1172", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "This is judgment on a preliminary point of law.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1172.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1197.0", "colnum": "1197", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It was.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend did, after all, refer to the Opposition Front Bench and suggested that it was my party who had produced the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1197.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1199.1", "colnum": "1199", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Agnew", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is all in the letter.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Agnew", "preceding_text": "th a woman who loses her husband on active service for his country. There is no doubt about that. What is the real character of the company which desires not special treatment but to be allowed to reap what my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Northwich (Sir J. Foster) said was the proper fruit of the hazards of going to law? According to the information which I have, as much as 70 per cent.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1199.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1203.0", "colnum": "1203", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "This is it.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "om taking action. We see in Section 4 of the Act the kind of provisions which it contains: Subject to the next following subsection, effect shall be given to the provisions of this Act in legal proceedings begun before its commencement, as well as in those begun afterwards. (2) This Act shall not affect any order or judgment made or given before its commencement in legal proceedings begun before\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1201.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-03", "file": "debates1965-02-03a.xml", "sha256": "0020960c20cab05e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1203.5", "colnum": "1203", "heading": "Orders of the Day — WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "I think that it is time that there was a sense of reality about what was going on in Burma.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-03a.1203.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-04", "file": "debates1965-02-04a.xml", "sha256": "2ccb15b631f66c6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-04a.1256.4", "colnum": "1256", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gilmour", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gilmour", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. and learned Gentleman aware that the first part of his answer will be particularly disappointing to those who recall his attitude to the case when it was debated in the House on 15th June, 1961? Would he not agree that virtually nobody outside the Home Office who has closely studied the case has serious doubts about the innocence of Evans on the charge of murder—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-04a.1256.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-04", "file": "debates1965-02-04a.xml", "sha256": "2ccb15b631f66c6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-04a.1272.5", "colnum": "1272", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "I think that I said to the right hon. Gentleman that, although there were great difficulties about talking between the Opposition and the Government on general matters of defence, if he made any specific proposal to talk to us on any particular thing, of course I would consider it sympathetically.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-04a.1272.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-04", "file": "debates1965-02-04a.xml", "sha256": "2ccb15b631f66c6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-04a.1289.1", "colnum": "1289", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "de by my hon. Friend, on this point of view, Mr. Speaker, do you recall that the other day you allowed a Private Notice Question to be submitted by the right hon. Member for Monmouthshire (Mr. Thorneycroft) and that the right hon. Gentleman subsequently admitted that he did not expect an answer? Do you also realise that the statement made by the Hawker-Siddeley firm, to the effect that 14,000 men—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-04a.1289.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-04", "file": "debates1965-02-04a.xml", "sha256": "2ccb15b631f66c6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-04a.1289.1", "colnum": "1289", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ce Question to be submitted by the right hon. Member for Monmouthshire (Mr. Thorneycroft) and that the right hon. Gentleman subsequently admitted that he did not expect an answer? Do you also realise that the statement made by the Hawker-Siddeley firm, to the effect that 14,000 men—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"]—will be dismissed as a result of the Government's aircraft policy has no foundation in fact—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-04a.1289.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-08", "file": "debates1965-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "46d7dd7b9b574488", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.8.0", "colnum": "8", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOSPITALS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorpe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorpe", "preceding_text": "Although the right hon. Gentleman was not able to fit in a visit to the North Devon area, can he give an assurance that he is fully aware of the problems of that area, with a waiting list of 1,000 and up to 5½years' delay for surgery? Can he clearly refute the suggestion that he did not visit the area because it is an area that does not return a Labour Member of Parliament—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.8.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-08", "file": "debates1965-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "46d7dd7b9b574488", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.13.2", "colnum": "13", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Redmayne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Redmayne", "preceding_text": "May we be assured that the right hon. Gentleman has been in close touch with his right hon. Friend the Postmaster-General in respect of the effect of this decision on the finances of the programme companies, particularly the smaller programme companies?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.13.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-08", "file": "debates1965-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "46d7dd7b9b574488", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.33.0", "colnum": "33", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Congratulations.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "cise. With regard to the question about leakage to the Press, I very much regret that last week in one newspaper—but in one newspaper only, that mentioned by the right hon. Gentleman—there was reference to a Transport Advisory Council and some of the names that I have given were mentioned there. However, so far as I am aware, there has not been any leakage at all of the appointment of Lord Hinton.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.33.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-08", "file": "debates1965-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "46d7dd7b9b574488", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.36.2", "colnum": "36", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "In giving me advice, Lord Hinton will be giving advice to a good many of my right hon. Friends as well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.36.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-08", "file": "debates1965-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "46d7dd7b9b574488", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.37.1", "colnum": "37", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Taverne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Taverne", "preceding_text": "May I, first, congratulate my right hon. Friend on his first appearance as Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs at the Dispatch Box?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.37.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-08", "file": "debates1965-02-08a.xml", "sha256": "46d7dd7b9b574488", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.140.1", "colnum": "140", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LAW COMMISSIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. N. R. Wylie", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Surely not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. N. R. Wylie", "preceding_text": " ought to be made—I think that it has already been done—of the very valuable work done by the main standing committees on law reform—the Lord Chancellor's Law Reform Committee, the Home Secretary's Criminal Law Revision Committee and, one which has not so far been mentioned, the Lord Advocate's Law Reform Committee in Scotland. As a Scottish lawyer, and, I regret to say, the only one in the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-08a.140.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.187.0", "colnum": "187", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BRUNEI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edwards", "preceding_text": "I thank my right hon. Friend for that very satisfactory reply, but I am sure that he would agree that elections are not the end of democracy but just the beginning—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.187.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.212.6", "colnum": "212", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Phantom.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "on. I think that it may help if I say at the outset that there are some things which I am not seeking to assert in this debate. I am not asserting that these are easy problems, capable of a facile solution. I know too well that that is not so. I certainly do not say that no one should ever buy a foreign aircraft because I know as well as right hon. Gentlemen opposite that there are such occasions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.212.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.225.1", "colnum": "225", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. If a Front Bench speaker quotes, quite fraudulently and deceptively—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.225.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.252.1", "colnum": "252", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "led to some information on that. On the HS681, Hawker Siddeley was talking in terms of £200 million. I think that it was the Observer's correspondent who said that as likely as not it would be £375 million before it was finished. My right hon. Friend says that we can get the Lockheed for one-third. One-third of what—the big figure or the smaller figure? Surely this is material. This was at a time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.252.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.274.1", "colnum": "274", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Sir Arthur Vere Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not so.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Arthur Vere Harvey", "preceding_text": " be affected. I have written to the Minister and I should like to place that on record. The hon. Member for Lichfield and Tamworth (Mr. Snow) should inform himself better on one or two aspects of civil aviation. He said that B.O.A.C. ought to buy VC10s. They have bought a number of VC10s. It was the hon. Member's party who, last summer, denigrated this aircraft and criticised my right hon. Friend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.274.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.277.0", "colnum": "277", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Norman Atkinson", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Norman Atkinson", "preceding_text": "Does the hon. Member for Knutsford—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.277.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.287.8", "colnum": "287", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When was this?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "preceding_text": "I do not need to do any more than to speak of the activities of the Lockheed Company, which were referred to by the hon. Member for Macclesfield. That company arranged a very expensive trip to the United States, not to discourage anyone from liking American aircraft, but, on the contrary, to promote the sale of American aircraft. That is a perfectly proper statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.287.8"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.314.5", "colnum": "314", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "Hon. Members opposite cannot take it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.314.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.314.6", "colnum": "314", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Read it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "[ Interruption. ] But there is no doubt that they are going to have to listen to this sooner or later. They must hear just what promise was made. It is headed: Harold Wilson tells TSR2 workers, Your Jobs are guaranteed under Labour. Labour will not\"— and this is in large letters— cancel the TSR2. There is then a bit about my right hon. Friend the Member for Preston, North (Mr. J. Amery), and then—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.314.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.314.7", "colnum": "314", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "Certainly, with pleasure. It states: Amery knows he will not be Minister of Aviation after next Friday.\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.314.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.316.3", "colnum": "316", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "ts than anything which could be imagined. Last week the Prime Minister made a speech in which he said that, after considering this for very many hours, he had come to the conclusion that the TSR2 could not be cancelled immediately but that the project should go on while it was further investigated. After 100 days the conclusion come to is that there is to be, at any rate for the moment, no change—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.316.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.317.2", "colnum": "317", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Polaris.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "eley? Of course they will. Here we come to what is a crucial issue which right hon. Gentlemen opposite, certainly the Minister of Aviation, have not faced. It is an issue on which the country will insist that they explain their position very fully. Are they prepared to see this country dependent for its most vital defence weapons on a foreign country, whether thatforeign country is an ally or not?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.317.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.317.2", "colnum": "317", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "tion very fully. Are they prepared to see this country dependent for its most vital defence weapons on a foreign country, whether thatforeign country is an ally or not? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Polaris.\"] What hon. Members who so cheerfully cry out about Polaris do not recognise is—and my right hon. Friend the Member for Monmouth dealt with this and explained it—that Polaris was a very good commercial buy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.317.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.320.3", "colnum": "320", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "It must be obvious that there is here an issue of principle which hon. Members opposite cannot dodge. They must make up their minds to tell the country honestly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.320.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.326.3", "colnum": "326", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "In view of what the right hon. Gentleman said today—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.326.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.326.3", "colnum": "326", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "In view of what the right hon. Gentleman said today—[ Interruption. ]—it is interesting to reflect—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.326.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.326.3", "colnum": "326", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "In view of what the right hon. Gentleman said today—[ Interruption. ]—it is interesting to reflect—[ Interruption. ] I know that hon. Members opposite cannot take it, but the country wants to know the facts. It is interesting to reflect that when a Conservative Member told the House in 1958 that the Government intended to cut the aircraft industry by 100,000—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.326.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.326.4", "colnum": "326", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Can the right hon. Gentleman's speech be—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.326.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.328.3", "colnum": "328", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman's point contains this much of a point of order, that we do not in this House read speeches—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.328.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.328.4", "colnum": "328", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "mber, 1965—this year. Over the next five years it has slipped to mid-1968 and the first flight, without avionics and at low subsonic speeds, was two years late; and this was four years after full development was authorised. On last year's cost figures for the TSR2 it would cost us £250 million more than the TFX, over a 10-year period. The right hon. Gentleman asked me some questions about the TFX.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.328.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.328.4", "colnum": "328", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": " listen. For planning purposes we have assumed that the Americans will put into the TFX the avionics that are in what hon. Gentlemen have called the TFX Mark II. Our calculations have been made very much on this basis, but we have included a very substantial contingency margin. We are still not sufficiently satisfied about the price advantage of the TFX to be able to take a decision now. Moreover—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.328.4"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-09", "file": "debates1965-02-09a.xml", "sha256": "12eba0e6cc67f53f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.341.6", "colnum": "341", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AERO-SPACE INDUSTRIES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Reginald Freeson", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Is it in order to make the kind of remark which was made just after the announcement of the Division figures, Mr. Speaker? The remark was, \"Five nigger boys would have got us a Labour defeat\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-09a.341.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-10", "file": "debates1965-02-10a.xml", "sha256": "32f7a18b188cb57a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.357.2", "colnum": "357", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the right hon. Gentleman's predecessors?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "When I met the Board and representatives of the unions concerned, I carefully considered their case and came to the conclusion that there was no need to panic at this stage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.357.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-10", "file": "debates1965-02-10a.xml", "sha256": "32f7a18b188cb57a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.372.6", "colnum": "372", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "It is not a question of seeking to restrict it, because it does even better—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.372.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-10", "file": "debates1965-02-10a.xml", "sha256": "32f7a18b188cb57a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.380.1", "colnum": "380", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jeremy Thorpe", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jeremy Thorpe", "preceding_text": "I rise to oppose the Motion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.380.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-10", "file": "debates1965-02-10a.xml", "sha256": "32f7a18b188cb57a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.380.1", "colnum": "380", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jeremy Thorpe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jeremy Thorpe", "preceding_text": "st turn to the most objective and most well-informed and the most experienced information which one can find, and that, I would suggest, is from the Royal Commission which reported to the then Labour Government in 1949, the Royal Commission under the chairmanship of Mr. Scott Henderson. It may be thought that, because of his discoveries in another connection, some doubt may be cast upon his views,", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.380.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-10", "file": "debates1965-02-10a.xml", "sha256": "32f7a18b188cb57a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.459.3", "colnum": "459", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ARMED FORCES (HOUSING LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Errington", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Errington", "preceding_text": "I dislike the idea of this being in any sense a party political occasion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.459.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-10", "file": "debates1965-02-10a.xml", "sha256": "32f7a18b188cb57a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.465.1", "colnum": "465", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ARMED FORCES (HOUSING LOANS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "preceding_text": "nately, I knew what to do. I should have thought that if buildings in the state which the hon. Gentleman described were built by private contractors, the Ministry would have some method of dealing with those contractors. If that power has not existed, in any future contracts which are issued for this type of building I ask my right hon. Friend to ensure that there is every conceivable opportunity—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-10a.465.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-11", "file": "debates1965-02-11a.xml", "sha256": "d2183f2009d062b6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.544.0", "colnum": "544", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "May I ask the Prime Minister—I hope he will agree —whether from time to time either my right hon. Friend the Member for Monmouth (Mr. Thorneycroft) may accompany me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.544.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-11", "file": "debates1965-02-11a.xml", "sha256": "d2183f2009d062b6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.552.1", "colnum": "552", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Twerp.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "Leaving that on one side for the moment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.552.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-11", "file": "debates1965-02-11a.xml", "sha256": "d2183f2009d062b6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.552.2", "colnum": "552", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "Had my right hon. Friend the Minister of Defence been given an opportunity to complete his speech, information on the C130 would have been available.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.552.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-11", "file": "debates1965-02-11a.xml", "sha256": "d2183f2009d062b6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.553.3", "colnum": "553", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "On the question of the air contracts, I have already said that if my right hon. Friend the Minister of Defence had been given the opportunity, he would have given the information.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.553.3"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-11", "file": "debates1965-02-11a.xml", "sha256": "d2183f2009d062b6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.558.2", "colnum": "558", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ridsdale", "preceding_text": "May I press the Leader of the House to find time for a debate on the conduct of the Secretary of State for Defence in not disclosing the facts, particularly as the last few minutes of his speech contained incorrect facts about Japanese aircraft?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.558.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-11", "file": "debates1965-02-11a.xml", "sha256": "d2183f2009d062b6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.561.1", "colnum": "561", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "Can the right hon. Gentleman find time to discuss the pros and cons of Government by review?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.561.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-11", "file": "debates1965-02-11a.xml", "sha256": "d2183f2009d062b6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.561.4", "colnum": "561", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Would the Leader of the House give some thought to the increasing practice of Ministers reading speeches at a very high speed?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-11a.561.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.708.3", "colnum": "708", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Rear-Admiral Morgan Giles (Winchester)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Rear-Admiral Morgan Giles (Winchester)", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. Anybody who has the good fortune to introduce a Private Member's Bill has to steer a middle course. He has to navigate with caution, because on the one hand lie the shifting sands of triviality, and on the other lie the jagged rocks of frustration. The Bill is not a party Measure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.708.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.719.0", "colnum": "719", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Antony Buck", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Antony Buck", "preceding_text": "Would my hon. Friend perhaps be prepared to consider Amendments which might be put forward in Committee, as we shall find that the Bill will have a Second Reading, there being no arguments against it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.719.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.721.1", "colnum": "721", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The hon. Member was a member of that Government.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Evelyn King", "preceding_text": "wonder whether the hon. Member is aware of what happened at the last Speaker's conference? I would remind him that the conference was held before the 1945 Parliament, and that agreed conclusions were reached, but the Government which came into power overthrew these conclusions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.721.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.724.0", "colnum": "724", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rees", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rees", "preceding_text": "espect. It should go to the extent of visits to old people's homes and hospitals. Whatever may be said on the question of party advantage, the argument should not be pooh-poohed because it exists to the degree that, by nature of social existence, in many parts of the country representatives of the party opposite have an open sesame into hospitals, and so on, in a much bigger way than my party has.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.724.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.725.1", "colnum": "725", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rees", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rees", "preceding_text": "With respect, I have argued the need for reform but I have now changed my tack.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.725.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.729.0", "colnum": "729", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And won.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Eden", "preceding_text": "een wondering why it is that hon. Members opposite are against this Measure. What exactly is it that worries them? Here we have a party whose members represent themselves as the great dynamic reformers, the people who are to redress all the ills of the past and put everything right in the glorious hundred days, or whatever it may be. Here we have party members who have fought an election campaign—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.729.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.729.0", "colnum": "729", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Eden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Pay-roll.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Eden", "preceding_text": "of modernising Britain and bringing things up to date. Yet, for some reason or other, they dislike this Bill. I think that they are scared of this Measure. They are afraid of it. I wonder why? I think that the hon. Member for Leeds, South came closest to the answer in many respects. He rather gave the game away, if I may say so, by talking about the superior organisation of the Conservative Party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.729.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.736.1", "colnum": "736", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "cause people could then arrange their holidays to ensure that they did not conflict with the timing of the election. The same would apply to people arranging business engagements, whether abroad or in some other part of the country. No doubt the Conservative Party would be appalled at the prospect of four or five years' rule by the present Government. They certainly have a lot to be frightened of.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.736.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.747.1", "colnum": "747", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. King", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. King", "preceding_text": "However that may be, the point I am seeking to make is that I was elected with a majority of 935, a majority in the constituency of 2 per cent. The evidence goes to show that the number of persons away from that constituency on holiday and voteless in that period was of the order of 2,000. It may have been that, but for that, I should not have been here at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.747.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.762.1", "colnum": "762", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "address at the time of an election to apply for absent voting facilities, supporting his application with a witnessed declaration that he would be unable to vote in person. Therefore, the proposal is that anyone in the country can say, \"I expect to be away on election day\", get a responsible person to sign and support their application and they would then, by Statute, be entitled to a postal vote.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.762.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.769.0", "colnum": "769", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "ble to draw the provisions in such a way that they would benefit only persons who have made bona fide arrangements to be away from home at the time of a General Election. To prevent abuse, reliance would have to be placed solely on the possibility of proceedings being instituted against any person whose declaration was not made in good faith. The House knows what an enormous problem that would be—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.769.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.770.1", "colnum": "770", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "we were to embark on this change in the law. I believe that our people expect us here to move cautiously in changing the electoral law. My advice to the House is not to prejudge this issue, but to decide that this is a matter that should be considered by Mr. Speaker's conference. I have such a high opinion of the hon. and gallant Gentleman that I believe that he will see the wisdom of this course—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.770.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.776.1", "colnum": "776", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "He will vote with the Government.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": " matter because there is to be a Speaker's conference. To quote his exact words, he said, \"We shall lose our sense of proportion and balance if we isolate this one issue and deal with it by legislation in advance of a major inquiry\". What will he do next week when the Rookes v. Barnard case comes up? What is the difference between that case and this? Are they not exactly the same and on all fours?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.776.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.778.1", "colnum": "778", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stanley Orme", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are yours?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stanley Orme", "preceding_text": "e right hon. Member for Enfield, West (Mr. Iain Macleod), as many of us on this side of the House were. He and the hon. Member for Bournemouth, West (Sir J. Eden) asked why the Labour Party were opposing the Bill, but, in return, we pose the question why the Conservative Party regard it as of such prime importance. Why are such distinguished Members present on the benches opposite for this debate?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.778.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.789.1", "colnum": "789", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": "f either the Government or the Opposition party. The object of elections is to decide Governments, but it is extremely important, not only to be fair but to be seen to be fair, that the system should be seen to be equitable and that all parties should agree this fact. I admire the synthetic indignation of the Liberal Party from the hon. Member for Bodmin (Mr. Bessell). It was extremely impressive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.789.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.791.1", "colnum": "791", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "An. HON. MEMBER: \"You are.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": "I am not saying that for one moment", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.791.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.792.1", "colnum": "792", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": "e entitled to a postal vote, by reason not of incapacity nor of the fact that they are away on work but only by reason of their absence from the constituency throughout the poll. This is as general as it could be. There could be a case of a housewife in the constituency of the right hon. Member for Enfield, West who decided to go to Knightsbridge for her shopping on polling day. All she has to do—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.792.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-12", "file": "debates1965-02-12a.xml", "sha256": "73e9e0b280355cdf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.797.0", "colnum": "797", "heading": "ORDER OF THE DAY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Buck", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Buck", "preceding_text": "l voter, and making sure that we get all our people out. To adopt such a course as is suggested would be the very height of absurdity. We must also remember that a person has to go to very considerable trouble filling in the form, and so on. We have also had this talk about payment. Is it really suggested that we in the Conservative Party have paid staff to deal with this matter at election times?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-12a.797.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.831.7", "colnum": "831", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "Can we have an absolute and firm assurance?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.831.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.834.4", "colnum": "834", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mayhew", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Prescription charges.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mayhew", "preceding_text": "I am not sure what this talk of extravagant expenditure means coming from that side of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.834.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.835.3", "colnum": "835", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "In giving consideration to this matter, which is of really deep concern to a great many people, would the Minister at least give full consideration to the fact that very specific pledges were given by his party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.835.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.835.4", "colnum": "835", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mayhew", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mayhew", "preceding_text": "I referred to this matter in an earlier debate in December. The intention of the Government is, of course, fully to carry out what is in their election programme.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.835.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.847.1", "colnum": "847", "heading": "MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (UNITED STATES AIRCRAFT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Two minutes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. My understanding is that the right hon. Gentleman has criticised my right hon. Friend the Opposition Chief Whip for moving the Closure at one minute—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.847.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.847.1", "colnum": "847", "heading": "MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (UNITED STATES AIRCRAFT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. My understanding is that the right hon. Gentleman has criticised my right hon. Friend the Opposition Chief Whip for moving the Closure at one minute—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Two minutes.\"]—to Ten o'clock.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.847.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.849.1", "colnum": "849", "heading": "INDUSTRY (USE OF CHEMICAL SUBSTANCES)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. R. J. Gunter)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. R. J. Gunter)", "preceding_text": " These were circulated in draft for comment to interested parties in the course of 1964. Comments have now been received, including suggestions that the range of prohibited substances should be extended. These useful comments are being carefully considered and we hope to make our views known shortly. I hope that it will be possible to make the regulations and order at an early date. In conclusion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.849.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.857.0", "colnum": "857", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "I did not wish to make a lengthy speech, Mr. Speaker, but could you, at the same time, take into account—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.857.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1", "colnum": "956", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "preceding_text": "le people. The House must realise that it would take the wisdom of Solomon, the patience of Job and the years of Methuselah to produce legislation about Sunday which was not in itself anomalous. There are many people on both sides of the House learned in the law—nobody, of course, more learned in the law than my right hon. and learned friend the Home Secretary. I had better get that on the record!", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1", "colnum": "956", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "preceding_text": " anomalous. There are many people on both sides of the House learned in the law—nobody, of course, more learned in the law than my right hon. and learned friend the Home Secretary. I had better get that on the record! [ Laughter. ] I have learned to cast my bread upon the waters. If we took all the right hon. and learned Gentlemen in the House and locked them in a room and kept them there a month—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1", "colnum": "956", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "preceding_text": " easy, and it would have been wrong for my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary to stand at the Box earlier this afternoon and tell the House the conclusions that we had reached before the House had had an opportunity to express its opinion. We believe that the House ought to be given this opportunity and we shall now give the weight that is deserved to every speech that has been made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1", "colnum": "956", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "preceding_text": " right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary to stand at the Box earlier this afternoon and tell the House the conclusions that we had reached before the House had had an opportunity to express its opinion. We believe that the House ought to be given this opportunity and we shall now give the weight that is deserved to every speech that has been made. [ Laughter. ] We shall decide the weight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-15", "file": "debates1965-02-15a.xml", "sha256": "4d18f63c2171e5b0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1", "colnum": "956", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Daniel? \"", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "preceding_text": "ng about the illogicality of Sunday law and demanding further changes, as surely as we have tonight been criticising legislation that was put on the Statute Book in earlier days. Amateur tennis internationals at Wimbledon are given the green light on Sundays, but speedway is shown the red light. The lion tamer is given permission, or would be by these proposals, to operate on Sunday in his circus.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-15a.956.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1003.5", "colnum": "1003", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " as we made clear in the debate even before the breakdown. We have stated the conditions—I do not need to detail them again today—but I made it clear at the beginning, and I am sure that the whole House would agree, that there is no immediate issue coming up. This is not a practical possibility now. What we have to do meanwhile, instead of sulking in our tents as some did after the last breakdown—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1003.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1003.5", "colnum": "1003", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Concord.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "e House would agree, that there is no immediate issue coming up. This is not a practical possibility now. What we have to do meanwhile, instead of sulking in our tents as some did after the last breakdown—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Oh, yes, cancelling Royal visits to Paris and peevish and pettish remarks from this Box—is to concentrate on finding functional means of improving our relations with Europe.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1003.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1005.3", "colnum": "1005", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What do you mean?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman is quite wrong about this. I have asked him twice what he means by \"consultation\" and I have still not been favoured with a reply. I asked whether he meant that the consultation was—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1005.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1008.5", "colnum": "1008", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "While wishing the Prime Minister well in this important visit—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1008.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1013.2", "colnum": "1013", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make further provision for the definition of byssinosis, and for the hearing and determination of cases relating to industrial diseases. It is a little unfortunate for me that I should now be called upon to attempt to launch the most inoffensive of legislative boats upon somewhat stormy Parliamentary seas.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1013.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1033.1", "colnum": "1033", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, no.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "easure at this time and for anticipating the Royal Commission's report. I have already touched on the many different views which have been put forward about the effects of the Rookes v. Barnard judgment. I have reminded the House of what Lord Radcliffe said on the subject. My learned Friends in the House will no doubt have a field day on this occasion in discussing the various legal possibilities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1033.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1035.3", "colnum": "1035", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "I have given way to the hon. Gentleman several times—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1035.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1041.0", "colnum": "1041", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Horner", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Horner", "preceding_text": "I can tell the right hon. Gentleman that I have here the speech that Mr. Wilson made to the T.U.C.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1041.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1082.1", "colnum": "1082", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is all right.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "I do not want to lose time dealing with rather fanciful cases—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1082.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1082.1", "colnum": "1082", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about ships?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "I do not want to lose time dealing with rather fanciful cases—[HON. MEMBERS: \"It is all right.\"] One does not get strikes because men are asked to do something dangerous.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1082.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1096.3", "colnum": "1096", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "preceding_text": "If employers were threatening a lock-out, which would also endanger the community—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1096.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1096.3", "colnum": "1096", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "preceding_text": "on. ] I do not think that there is any other way in which they can endanger the economy to the same extent as a strike. I am not seeking to qualify this in any way. I think that, if employers did endanger the economy in such a way, some action of the same sort could apply. There are other ways of changing the law. We could strengthen the system of arbitration by having mutually agreed arbitrators.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1096.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1130.1", "colnum": "1130", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "y, threats to come out on strike and threats to call other people to come out on strike—which the trade union movement for the last 60 years or so has always thought was so protected. The Bill goes no further than that. It is limited in its scope. The protection it gives is limited, first, to acts done in contemplation or furtherance of a trade dispute. I am sorry that this is pretty dreary stuff—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1130.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1132.1", "colnum": "1132", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "ats with regard to breaches of contract of employment. Breaches of other kinds of contract, for example an employer's contract with his customers, are not affected. Contracts of that kind have never been within the protection of the 1906 Act, and they will not be protected by the Bill. I was asked by the hon. and learned Member for Montgomery (Mr. Hooson) in his most attractive and helpful speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1132.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-16", "file": "debates1965-02-16a.xml", "sha256": "cf51319380a79f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1136.3", "colnum": "1136", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A sprat.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "My recollection of Keir Hardie is that there was no more bitter victim of Tory attack than that great Socialist. But I am being diverted into matters which are not perhaps immediately germane to the Bill. I commend the Bill to the House. I do not agree with the hon. and learned Member for Montgomery that it is a mouse, nor do I enlarge it to the dimensions of a lion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-16a.1136.3"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1173.2", "colnum": "1173", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the subject of alternatives to dairying is very important and that there is a general lack of confidence at the moment engendered by the failure of his right hon. Friend to support the efforts of the Potato Marketing Board?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1173.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1178.7", "colnum": "1178", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Miller", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Miller", "preceding_text": "I thank my right hon. Friend for his reply. Is he aware that Glasgow Corporation gave approval to the full, detailed plans for this comprehensive development area in June, 1959, and due to the procrastination of the last Administration in this respect, during which they permitted vested interests to delay the beginning of this scheme, almost six years have gone by—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1178.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1178.7", "colnum": "1178", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Miller", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Miller", "preceding_text": "which they permitted vested interests to delay the beginning of this scheme, almost six years have gone by—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—and not one brick has been laid? Would he ensure that in the future, when schemes of this type are approved by corporations such as Glasgow Corporation, delaying tactics, such as were used by individuals in this case, are not permitted to thwart the rights of people—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1178.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1190.2", "colnum": "1190", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "I am, of course, in constant touch with airline operators. I took the opportunity of seeing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1190.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1191.0", "colnum": "1191", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "Could the Minister more precisely define the criteria to be followed by the A.T.L.B. which we on this bench welcome?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1191.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1192.0", "colnum": "1192", "heading": "CIVIL AVIATION POLICY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "The first part of the hon. and gallant Member's premise is arguable. In any case, the question which I have to decide is whether to move from here to a position of unrestricted competition on these domestic routes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1192.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1219.1", "colnum": "1219", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1964–65", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Turton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is the right hon. Gentleman doing now?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Turton", "preceding_text": "That reinforces what I said. I inherited a great deal of malice, but I do not believe that in such a matter it is wise to try to play party politics.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1219.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1234.1", "colnum": "1234", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1964–65", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "preceding_text": "d my right hon. Friend the Member for Bridlington (Mr. Wood) on the modest way in which he made his remarks. I agree with the Minister on that, but I doubted—and I say this quite frankly, because I have respect for him and I listened carefully to the polite way in which, as always, he made his points—whether the Minister's speech helped the atmosphere at all. I found his speech rather dictatorial—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1234.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1235.3", "colnum": "1235", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1964–65", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "preceding_text": " moment G.P.s are under extreme pressure of work, and it is therefore not realistic to think that a smaller number could keep the Service solvent. The attitude of mind of the Croydon doctors at the moment is symptomatic of the rest of the country, and nothing but ill can come out of the present situation unless it is quickly resolved, and I ask the Minister to consider this as a matter of urgency—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1235.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1271.1", "colnum": "1271", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1964–65", "cue_speaker": "Lord Balniel", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Lord Balniel", "preceding_text": "be renamed \"Never-never Land\". It says: Labour will press ahead with a revised hospital plan… Labour will greatly increase the number of qualified medical staff. We shall train more doctors and dentists … by increasing the number of students admitted to existing medical school …\". I would ask the right hon. Gentleman whether there have been more pledges broken in so few words.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1271.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1308.0", "colnum": "1308", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1964–65", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "I am glad the right hon. Gentleman has said that because it enables me to point the difference between that report and the one now under consideration. The present report was based on a clear misconception that there were no such considerations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1308.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-17", "file": "debates1965-02-17a.xml", "sha256": "7143efd8f5b771ac", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1309.1", "colnum": "1309", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1964–65", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"0h.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "The word disfranchise in my letter was used in one context—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-17a.1309.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-18", "file": "debates1965-02-18a.xml", "sha256": "32736b2a5ffc5a05", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-18a.1345.4", "colnum": "1345", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "preceding_text": "There are, no doubt, a number of factors which increase costs. It is to ensure that price rises are based on genuine increases of cost and not upon excessive profits that we are setting up the board.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-18a.1345.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-18", "file": "debates1965-02-18a.xml", "sha256": "32736b2a5ffc5a05", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-18a.1346.0", "colnum": "1346", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stratton Mills", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Reading.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stratton Mills", "preceding_text": "Does the Minister of State recall that the Labour Party's election manifesto said that the success of the national plan would depend upon the new and relevant policy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-18a.1346.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-18", "file": "debates1965-02-18a.xml", "sha256": "32736b2a5ffc5a05", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-18a.1346.3", "colnum": "1346", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "preceding_text": "That is an extraordinary supplementary question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-18a.1346.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-18", "file": "debates1965-02-18a.xml", "sha256": "32736b2a5ffc5a05", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-18a.1452.1", "colnum": "1452", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Fell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Fell", "preceding_text": "s I can discover this is not a move which is particularly welcomed by the Norfolk County Council. That is sensible of it, because of the problems of a borough like Great Yarmouth, with its enormous summer specialised industry of holiday-making, which affects the police and the general running of the town. Yarmouth has run itself well for many hundreds of years and it would be the greatest mistake—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-18a.1452.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-22", "file": "debates1965-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "1a25bd82529cadc5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.42.2", "colnum": "42", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speak up.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": " in the Spectator reads as follows: The Spectator, February 19, 1965. Views of the Week Warbey's Wanderings On January 4, Mr. William Warbey, Labour M.P. for Ashfield, and his wife arrived in Hanoi the capital of North Vietnam where they were greeted at Gia-lam airport by Mr. Tran Xuan Bach, Secretary-General of the Central Committee of the Vietnam Fatherland Front, and other members of that body.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.42.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-22", "file": "debates1965-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "1a25bd82529cadc5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.92.1", "colnum": "92", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why did not the right hon. Gentleman do it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": " been handed out by the Ministry of Defence. When I was at the Ministry of Defence, I was bringing powerful arguments to bear to arrange that many of the headquarters should be removed altogether from southeast England, where they are crowded together in a narrow corner of the country, and that opportunity should be taken of siting them in Scotland, in the north of England and in Northern Ireland.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.92.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-22", "file": "debates1965-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "1a25bd82529cadc5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.92.1", "colnum": "92", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "l arguments to bear to arrange that many of the headquarters should be removed altogether from southeast England, where they are crowded together in a narrow corner of the country, and that opportunity should be taken of siting them in Scotland, in the north of England and in Northern Ireland. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Why did not the right hon. Gentleman do it?\"] Far from removing an anti-submarine base—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.92.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-22", "file": "debates1965-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "1a25bd82529cadc5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.171.1", "colnum": "171", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "Bill in Committee, he should have raised them there. What we have to do on the Third Reading is to vote on the principle of the Measure. Although hon. Members who have opposed the Bill throughout are perfectly within their rights, we are entitled to say, as a House of Commons, that, whatever may have been the previous situation, today their opposition to the Bill has been frivolous and fraudulent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.171.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-22", "file": "debates1965-02-22a.xml", "sha256": "1a25bd82529cadc5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.173.1", "colnum": "173", "heading": "BILLS PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "ly get some action, for that is what many people want. That is one safeguard. We have also the safeguard of the procedure recommended in the Bill. The matter has to be referred again to the Ministry of Transport. It is not as if even when the Measure is passed the proposals of the Bill will immediately come into operation. The Bill was introduced because of the public spirit of the firm concerned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-22a.173.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-23", "file": "debates1965-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "5d0f5a4084916013", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-23a.239.2", "colnum": "239", "heading": "UNITED NATIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He was Foreign Secretary.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "Since the Foreign Secretary cannot remember the Berwick speech and other courageous statements made by the Leader of the Opposition when Prime Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-23a.239.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-23", "file": "debates1965-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "5d0f5a4084916013", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-23a.242.0", "colnum": "242", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "In that case, I would call attention to the other writing, which is a postcard—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-23a.242.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-23", "file": "debates1965-02-23a.xml", "sha256": "5d0f5a4084916013", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-23a.242.1", "colnum": "242", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "In that case, I would call attention to the other writing, which is a postcard—[ Laughter ]—which reached me this morning, which was dated 21st February, that is, Sunday, but which I received only this morning. It says: \"Dear Mr. Warbey, Listening to your comments on TV, I formed the opinion that you are only in the Labour Party to further the Communist cause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-23a.242.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-24", "file": "debates1965-02-24a.xml", "sha256": "b0f4353320193ab6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-24a.387.5", "colnum": "387", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bruce-Gardyne", "preceding_text": "Could the hon. Gentleman assure us that on future occasions he will not allow the interests of farmers in Scotland to be sacrificed to the First Secretary of State's pursuit of the will o' the wisp of an incomes policy?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-24a.387.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-24", "file": "debates1965-02-24a.xml", "sha256": "b0f4353320193ab6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-24a.405.5", "colnum": "405", "heading": "HOUSING (NORTH-WEST REGION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"It is not a point of order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": "With great respect, Mr. Speaker, and further to that point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-24a.405.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-24", "file": "debates1965-02-24a.xml", "sha256": "b0f4353320193ab6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-24a.433.2", "colnum": "433", "heading": "Orders of the Day — OVERSEAS DEVELOPMENT AND SERVICE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "To the Colonies.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hynd", "preceding_text": "I am sorry, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, but I gathered that we were discussing the extension of aid in general.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-24a.433.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.582.6", "colnum": "582", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "se on two points which are puzzling many people? First, if the surcharge, at a level of 15 per cent., has had any significant effect so far on the level of imports, how can he and his right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer say that the two months' advance notice of the cut will not cause an artificial holding off until after 27th April, followed thereafter by a pent-up flood of imports?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.582.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.596.8", "colnum": "596", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "ed are those which were given by the South African Minister of Defence and have not been challenged by Her Majesty's Government? Are not all the Prime Minister's glossy T.V. exhortations to export effort mocked by deliberate sacrifice to ideological prejudice and pressure of vast orders which are fully in the interests of Western and Commonwealth defence? Does not the right hon. Gentleman realise—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.596.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.598.5", "colnum": "598", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"All the people of Rhodesia?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that great concern was felt in Rhodesia because of certain discussions, which I fully understand the right hon. Gentleman cannot disclose? In view of the visit of the Lord Chancellor and the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations to Rhodesia, which we welcome, and which we hope will lead to a good understanding with the people of Rhodesia—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.598.5"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.603.1", "colnum": "603", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that the allegations and assertions which hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite are making are purely \"phoney\" and that they are more concerned with what we are going to do on the question of land than on the question of steel?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.603.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.605.0", "colnum": "605", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": "While it is apparent that we cannot just sign the Treaty of Rome without consultation with our E.F.T.A. partners—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.605.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.605.2", "colnum": "605", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Really.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "While welcoming the fact that the Liberal Party accepts the first of the five conditions which we laid down, the right hon. Gentleman will understand if I have to say that I cannot answer for the Conservative Party in answer to his first point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.605.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.607.2", "colnum": "607", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ridsdale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ridsdale", "preceding_text": "In view of the wise advice given by the Governor of the Bank of England, will the Prime Minister do everything he can to see that money can grow in the pockets of the individual rather than in the coffers of the State?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.607.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.612.6", "colnum": "612", "heading": "ECONOMIC PLANNING COUNCILS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "That seems a little pointless.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.612.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.612.8", "colnum": "612", "heading": "ECONOMIC PLANNING COUNCILS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir. He is responsible. I am not responsible in Wales. My right hon. Friend is responsible for the Welsh Planning Council.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.612.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.616.6", "colnum": "616", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Ask Question No. Q5.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Has my right hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.616.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.620.3", "colnum": "620", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iain Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iain Macleod", "preceding_text": "I am not objecting to the proposal which the right hon. Gentleman has made, but will he take this as a very serious point? Does he realise that, quite apart from any individual issues, there is here concerned a very important matter of the freedom of the Press? The whole of the Press has always thought, rightly or wrongly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.620.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.649.1", "colnum": "649", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "re, it should not be a bar to my taking into account, if I thought proper, that the Labour councillors who were present before Mr. Verney could—although in fact they did not—have put forward this consideration, which seems to me, at any rate, a consideration which he would have wished to take into account. May I go on to deal with the question of the hon. and learned Member for Hove (Mr. Marlowe)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.649.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.649.1", "colnum": "649", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "sort would be to say, \"Let us start again and have a completely full inquiry at which everybody, no matter who they are, can put forward any point of view to the Commissioner.\" No one would then have the slightest ground for complaint. It seems to me that if this new inquiry takes place, my great hope is that it will, once and for all, put an end to the disagreeable situation which has now arisen.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.649.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.654.0", "colnum": "654", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brooke", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brooke", "preceding_text": "d quite plainly that I had reached a decision and that my decision was final. I would have explained to anybody who came to see me or communicated with me that where a Minister is acting in a quasi-judicial capacity he must not vacillate and, above all, he must not act in such a way as to give rise to any taint of suspicion that there is political gerrymandering. I regard that as an absolute rule.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.654.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.670.1", "colnum": "670", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": "Floor of the House the important matters which have to be debated and no longer waste the time of the House on a Motion which appears to be serious, but which, having listened to the right hon. Member for Monmouth, is shown to be a manoeuvre solely for their own purposes. It may be that this is something which hon. Members opposite are entitled to do. Oppositions may have done it in the past, but—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.670.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.678.0", "colnum": "678", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Sir S. Summers", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"For the Labour Party.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir S. Summers", "preceding_text": "ention to these matters and some would not. What a negation of responsibility to pass to the inspector to decide what degree of significance to place upon political considerations. What we have heard today, despite the attempt to conceal it by the Home Secretary, is an announcement that future boundary decisions will be rejected if there is a serious political effect in accepting a recommendation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.678.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.681.1", "colnum": "681", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is that all?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "preceding_text": "The error of judgment was in giving way to the Labour Party, which wanted a new inquiry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.681.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.691.1", "colnum": "691", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member has quoted a number of Orders and the London Government Act. This Order, which was placed in the Vote Office only today, having come into operation three days ago, was made under Section 25 of the Local Government Act, 1933. Were those other Orders made under that Section?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.691.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.692.4", "colnum": "692", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not? \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "Thirty seconds and I will be sitting down. I remember the record of the right hon. Member for Hampstead at the Home Office and I recall that, despite all the upheavals, he went through that period of office without a personal vote of censure being tacked on to him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.692.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.692.4", "colnum": "692", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARIES NORTHAMPTON (CONDUCT OF HOME SECRE- TARY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "ffice and I recall that, despite all the upheavals, he went through that period of office without a personal vote of censure being tacked on to him. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not? \"] We may have been mistaken. But we believe that issues of censure should be confined to issues of principle or a major breach in the standards of the House. That charge is not thrown against my right hon. and learned Friend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.692.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.738.4", "colnum": "738", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF PERIOD AND INCREASE IN AGGREGATE OF HOUSING LOANS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "that we are bringing the matter forward in this way. May I deal with one or two things which have arisen. I am advised that the question of Service tenancies and hiring is strictly out of order on this Clause. I only want to say, perhaps with the indulgence of the Chair, that all Departments tend to be over-generous rather than under-generous about letting people stay on. This is tied up with the—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.738.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-25", "file": "debates1965-02-25a.xml", "sha256": "2eef33a664e4b9d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.742.6", "colnum": "742", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(EXTENSION OF PERIOD AND INCREASE IN AGGREGATE OF HOUSING LOANS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir E. Errington", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir E. Errington", "preceding_text": "There are three periods during which this programme of providing married quarters is to be carried out. Is it possible to be told, and am I in order in asking, how many houses will be built?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-25a.742.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.794.0", "colnum": "794", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hon. Gentleman.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.794.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.795.3", "colnum": "795", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shore", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shore", "preceding_text": "nits in the Civil Service and elsewhere. So much for serious study. What is to be done once the Higher Incomes Council has made its serious study? In the first place, it will issue advisory opinions. I hope that these advisory opinions would have a considerable influence upon those to whom they were directed. I take it that I have no great difficulty in carrying most hon. Members with me thus far.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.795.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.800.1", "colnum": "800", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Henry d'Avigdor-Goldsmid", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"It was too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Henry d'Avigdor-Goldsmid", "preceding_text": "ratulating the hon. Member for Stepney (Mr. Shore) upon his initiative in bringing forward the Measure, which I am sure expresses his deepest convictions, upon the extremely lucid way in which he has expressed himself, upon the great confidence which he has shown in dealing with interruptions from both sides of the House, and upon making what all must agree was a very good House of Commons speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.800.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.816.1", "colnum": "816", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": "I did not realise that Members of Parliament and Ministers were included. If they are, I should like in a later speech, perhaps, to have my attention directed to the relevant part of the Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.816.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.816.3", "colnum": "816", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": "Yes—as well as the tax-free allowance, but I did not want to bring that in. The fact is that Members of Parliament must stop pretending to be in white sheets when all that this Bill intends to do is to create prejudice—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.816.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.830.2", "colnum": "830", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Braine", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Braine", "preceding_text": "rutiny when there are other categories of high incomes which are not so subjected. I am suggesting to the hon. Member for Poplar (Mr. Mikardo) that in Committee he might like to take the opportunity to have this point thrashed out. I suppose that there is a case for saying that everything should be brought out in the open and, in this connection, I would like to know what trade union leaders earn.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.830.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.836.5", "colnum": "836", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member is shaking his head, but there was an exchange on this subject and if the hon. Gentleman cares to examine my remarks he will find that I was not attacking this sort of thing. I said that it was no bad thing that expenses were allowable in such a way that it was possible for people to meet socially and discuss matters of importance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.836.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.840.1", "colnum": "840", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Read it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": " country. We have the ridiculous firm name, \"Megalopolis Limited\". The hon. Member for Swindon (Mr. Francis Noel-Baker), who is one of the sponsors of the Bill and is well-versed in the Greek language, perhaps had something to do with the drafting of that. Then there are \"International Enterprises\", \"Lunar Explorations\" and the \"South Sea Company\". I have here the charter of the South Sea Company.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.840.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.841.0", "colnum": "841", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "sed the Bill as a vehicle to make all these inferences and innuendoes against people who are spending the vast majority of their time working themselves to death in the interests of the country and who have very little leisure and who, if the provisions of Form P11D, to which I will not refer in great detail, were carried out would have very little chance of enjoying any leisure at public expense.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.841.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.868.3", "colnum": "868", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "hem properly give them their heads. Here is another good piece of Tory philosophy: We have got to pay for skill and expertise and use it. I hope that the whole House agrees with that, because it is what the Prime Minister said earlier this week. How can that philosophy be reconciled with trying to pillory top management into disclosing information which could be extremely misleading to the public?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.868.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-02-26", "file": "debates1965-02-26a.xml", "sha256": "737d1b716f03b307", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.868.3", "colnum": "868", "heading": "EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "stand that the Minister of State wants to wind up immediately. We must avoid getting at cross-purposes with any section of the community, and this includes trade unions, it includes management, and it includes top management. The Bill epitomises the pathological hatred that certain hon. Members opposite have for the capitalist system. The capitalist system here is, I think, working extremely well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-02-26a.868.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.930.2", "colnum": "930", "heading": "COMPUTER INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "I warmly welcome my right hon. Friend's statement. However, the funds which he is proposing to allocate to the computer industry are paltry, but in relation to our national resources they are substantially more than the former Administration were willing to allocate. In the final analysis the computer industry—[HON MEMBERS: \"Question.\"] The computer industry requires orders—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.930.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.980.5", "colnum": "980", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Burden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Burden", "preceding_text": "Really! The vans of the Minister's former organisation went round the country with the words writ large on them, \"We are never knowingly undersold\". I had hoped that his experience in that firm would have enabled him to bring the same ideas about competition to his present office, but apparently he has left them all behind. Or is it that the pressure from some members of the Left-wing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.980.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.984.1", "colnum": "984", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too often.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "s who do not see only the route from London to Glasgow? Where are all the pioneers amongst them? When business is asking for more services to and from Scotland where are the men who profess to do the pioneering work? Not a single hand is raised to help the businessmen in Scotland by providing them with the air services they want. What about Prestwick? How often have we talked about Prestwick here?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.984.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1003.1", "colnum": "1003", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "preceding_text": "en Labour happens to be in office and everything to the advantage of the independents when the Conservatives are in office. Sometimes it happens that Ministers take decisions for the best of reasons, that is for the good of the British aviation generally, and I honestly believe that that is what the Minister is trying to do in this case. Liberals, of course, are in favour of competition generally.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1003.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1027.2", "colnum": "1027", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": " We had from them denationalisation and nationalisation, and for 13 years the public felt paralysed by those nationalisers and anti-nationalisers on the benches opposite. No wonder the Press of this country is confused by the Opposition—not by the Government, but by the Opposition. The Opposition con- fuses the Press. Every weekend we read reports in the Press about the weakness of the Opposition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1027.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1027.2", "colnum": "1027", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": "to care a hang what comes out of it. They are not worried about that. It is what goes in they worry about. Of course, that is because they are at the dividend receiving end of the stick. Does the hon. Member for Banbury ever consider who is paying? Really, it is about time that there was a realisation that the taxpayers of this country cannot go on year after year piling up Government expenditure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1027.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1045.1", "colnum": "1045", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "service to Paris. It is that that service is always at a very high load factor because B.E.A. does not take risks with services or in opening up services or in providing more frequent services. What we need is a more frequent service and more availability of seats and thus encourage greater traffic, getting our rewards back in that way. Some of these aspects are all bad aspects of nationalisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1045.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1054.3", "colnum": "1054", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "preceding_text": "I was getting to the discussion of domestic trunk services, and I am making the point that if we allow competition on these domestic trunk services we lead to waste and inefficiency.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1054.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1054.3", "colnum": "1054", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, they did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "preceding_text": "ver made a profit on those routes. In fact, it made a loss—since November, 1963—of over £300,000. Its load factors have been small. It wanted to increase its services. It is not very helpful of the hon. Gentleman the Member for Eastleigh (Mr. David Price) to say it should be allowed to increase them, because the Government of which he was a member took no steps at all to allow it to increase them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1054.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1054.3", "colnum": "1054", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "preceding_text": " to square one, but with this vital difference: the Corporation would have had to share its routes with the independent, and possibly because of the waste that had occurred during the interim period fares would be higher than they need to be. The dilemma becomes clearer when we consider other forms of transport. Would it be sensible to allow parallel services to compete with publicly-owned trains?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1054.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1054.3", "colnum": "1054", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"On B.E.A.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "preceding_text": "ting, without a very careful examination of the case which he should be deploying today. He made one remark about seats to Scotland which was patently untrue, because since he made the point I have had it checked, and I have discovered that not only is it possible to get seats on airlines to Scotland before seven weeks have elapsed, but it is possible to get a seat on routes to Scotland next week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1054.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-01", "file": "debates1965-03-01a.xml", "sha256": "33b5f32f393a1156", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1080.0", "colnum": "1080", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nor by the hon. Gentleman.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "at tree preservation is perfectly in order. If the Opposition had a single word of criticism to make of the Government about how they had arranged tree preservation, I am sure that they would have brought it forward. But they have not got it. I do not complain if the House is kept here late at night if matters of substance are raised, but no question of substance has been raised under this Prayer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-01a.1080.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1108.0", "colnum": "1108", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Atkinson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Atkinson", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member who said that should speak up or mind his own business as far as my hands are concerned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1108.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1109.5", "colnum": "1109", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "I shall be delighted to do as the hon. Gentleman suggests. I understood that there were nine and not eight associations. I have already had some preliminary discussions with the new body representing the electronics industry. I am very pleased to hear you say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1109.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1110.1", "colnum": "1110", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Take your hand out of your pocket.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that there will be pleasure and even relief on this side of the House at his new approach? Will he deal with two matters which arise?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1110.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1114.0", "colnum": "1114", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "If you will put down a Question about purchasing American, I will try to answer that one, too. The Question which you have put—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1114.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1114.0", "colnum": "1114", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "If you will put down a Question about purchasing American, I will try to answer that one, too. The Question which you have put—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"] You will have to accept that I think of you in that way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1114.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1114.7", "colnum": "1114", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wingfield Digby", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Take your hand out of your pocket.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wingfield Digby", "preceding_text": "Is it still the intention of the Government, as I was told on 22nd December—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1114.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1114.7", "colnum": "1114", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wingfield Digby", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Take your hand out of your pocket.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wingfield Digby", "preceding_text": "Is it still the intention of the Government, as I was told on 22nd December—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Take your hand out of your pocket.\"] Is it still the intention of the Government, as I was told on 22nd December, to put the Vulcain—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1114.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1116.5", "colnum": "1116", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Take your hands out of your pockets.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "In thanking the right hon. Gentleman for his reply, may I ask whether he would not agree that technology is the application of rational thought? Would he not, therefore, agree that the success of technology depends upon human attitudes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1116.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1120.2", "colnum": "1120", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Commander Courtney", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Courtney", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of the great satisfaction—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1120.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1126.0", "colnum": "1126", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Second thoughts\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "hon. Gentleman's question, I think the position must be that, as the Leader of the Opposition said, every case does raise difficulties and they have to be looked at individually. In the case I mentioned a few moments ago in reply to the Leader of the Opposition, when the Minister concerned felt there was a possible conflict of interest of course he resigned, after being for seven years a Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1126.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1127.2", "colnum": "1127", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "This statement I know perfectly well. I refreshed my memory about it when I saw these Questions on the Order Paper. The point I was trying to make—I think it a perfectly fair point and I did not even name the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1127.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1127.3", "colnum": "1127", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gilmour", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gilmour", "preceding_text": "In view of the unsatisfactory nature—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1127.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1127.3", "colnum": "1127", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gilmour", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gilmour", "preceding_text": "In view of the unsatisfactory nature—[ Interruption. ]—of the Prime Minister's reply, I beg to give notice that I shall—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1127.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1133.1", "colnum": "1133", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How many?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "n. Secondly, he is on record as saying that the Government are firmly convinced that an effective control is indispensable. The Home Secretary said, \"That policy we accept, and we have always accepted it\". He must, therefore, give me his support in what I am seeking. I am convinced from the hundreds of thousands of letters which I get from all over the country, many of them from Labour supporters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1133.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1217.3", "colnum": "1217", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A club?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": " carries the penalty of ten years imprisonment—that of carrying firearms with intention to commit a serious offence. That applies to shotguns, if one is being carried with intent. Clause 2, to which a great deal of attention has been drawn, makes it a serious offence to carry a loaded shotgun in a public place. The House will be relieved to know that a public place includes a cafe or a fairground—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1217.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1247.2", "colnum": "1247", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"The previous Government.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": " had a very interesting discussion so far on the new Clause. I am obliged to the hon. Member for Devon, North (Mr. Thorpe) for saying that I had a dock brief. Any time that he has £2 4s. 6d. in his pocket I shall be only too happy to defend him with just as much vigour as I try to defend the Bill. Among the sponsors of the new Clause there are no fewer than three members of the present Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1247.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1247.2", "colnum": "1247", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": "tion in which the stone is cast. 9.45 p.m. If one goes a little further to see the decision which the right hon. and learned Member for Wirral thought that he could not honourably oppose, it is interesting to note that on 13th June, 1962, in the course of the litigation then continuing between the Burmah Oil Company and the Crown, the then Government wrote to the company a somewhat unusual letter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1247.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1257.2", "colnum": "1257", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. C. Silkin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not Third Reading yet.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. C. Silkin", "preceding_text": "ady been said, the right hon. and learned Gentleman said: Having been a party to the decision to warn the company, I feel that I myself cannot honourably vote against the Second Reading.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 3rd February, 1965; Vol. 705, c. 1106.] That was when the Bill was before the House on Second Reading. Today, it comes before the House on Third Reading in exactly the same state as it was then.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1257.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1269.1", "colnum": "1269", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "o power in Burma, they repudiated the Burma rules and refused to accept any obligations under them. The result was that these claims, which our Government took the view could quite properly be made before the Burmese courts, were rejected. That is the reason why that advice was given. The point is that Her Majesty's Government recognised not a legal but a moral obligatiol towards compensation for—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1269.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1271.3", "colnum": "1271", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. and learned Member cannot even deal with one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I shall be delighted to give way to the hon. and learned Member when I have finished dealing with the interruption which was made previously. I cannot deal with more than one at once.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1271.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1272.2", "colnum": "1272", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The official referee.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "REPORT, 3rd February, 1965; Vol. 705, c. 1096–1100.] That is what I referred to, as reported at the foot of that column, which the hon. and learned Member quoted. I return to the question of what it is proposed that we should negotiate about. Who is to determine what is to be the fair contribution which can be made from the Exchequer towards the damage which was suffered by the oil company?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1272.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1281.2", "colnum": "1281", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MaeDermot", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. and learned Gentleman suggesting that if the claim had been for only 6d. the letter would have been written?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1281.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-02", "file": "debates1965-03-02a.xml", "sha256": "6872582e5f7c7686", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1282.0", "colnum": "1282", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": "Certainly. I will read the whole passage as I have been invited to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-02a.1282.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1304.1", "colnum": "1304", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Solomons", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Reading.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Solomons", "preceding_text": "When my right hon. Friend is giving further consideration to this matter, will he remember that a bridge over the Humber would improve the economic potential of the area—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1304.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1306.0", "colnum": "1306", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "For 13 years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1306.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1307.4", "colnum": "1307", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "preceding_text": "In view of the fact that the Private Member's Bill which he mentioned is concerned with a breathalyzer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1307.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1310.0", "colnum": "1310", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Thirteen years.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": "Would my right hon. Friend see whether he can avoid the frightful delays and frustrations of the last ten years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1310.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1310.5", "colnum": "1310", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the roads?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "We are going to have many docks for a great many years to come. We have probably got too many ports at the present time, and there is a good deal of inefficiency arising from ships having to call at too many ports—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1310.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.4", "colnum": "1312", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "preceding_text": "Will my hon. Friend tell me why there is no greater sense of urgency in this matter? Does not he agree that it is a deplorable state of affairs—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.4", "colnum": "1312", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "preceding_text": "Will my hon. Friend tell me why there is no greater sense of urgency in this matter? Does not he agree that it is a deplorable state of affairs—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]—particularly in the summer months when men, women and children have to mingle at the side of the road?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.4", "colnum": "1312", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "preceding_text": "rgency in this matter? Does not he agree that it is a deplorable state of affairs—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]—particularly in the summer months when men, women and children have to mingle at the side of the road? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] Does not he agree that it makes nonsense of all the efforts we have been making towards personal hygiene when this state of affairs is allowed to continue?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.5", "colnum": "1312", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "preceding_text": "If the House is disposed to consider this matter seriously, I may say that we know that this insanitary state of affairs exists in many places. We deplore it, and something has to be done about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.5", "colnum": "1312", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "preceding_text": "e House is disposed to consider this matter seriously, I may say that we know that this insanitary state of affairs exists in many places. We deplore it, and something has to be done about it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] My right hon. Friend issued a circular to local authorities in favour of better sign-posting of lavatories on these roads because we think that is in the interest of the public.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1312.5"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1315.0", "colnum": "1315", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. Perhaps I can assist. I pointed out yesterday that it is troublesome enough getting questions asked of Ministers and answered. We cannot have Ministers asking questions. Mr. Heffer for the next Question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1314.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1315.3", "colnum": "1315", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "In answering, might I say that the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Mr. Powell) is a little mistaken?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1315.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1320.1", "colnum": "1320", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SHIPPING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Right hon.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "preceding_text": "Whilst I appreciate the point made by my hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1320.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1320.2", "colnum": "1320", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SHIPPING", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speak up.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "preceding_text": "Whilst I appreciate the point made by my hon. Friend—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Right hon.\"]—the situation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1320.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1322.5", "colnum": "1322", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SHIPPING", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not all.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "Is not the reason for this delay the fact that his right hon. Friend the Prime Minister has created so many new Ministers that there simply is not enough time to go round? Is he further aware that when Ministers do come to the Chamber to answer Questions—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1322.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1327.3", "colnum": "1327", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "preceding_text": "ty with us. We believe that by doing so we shall succeed in discouraging and not provoking the spread of national nuclear weapons. The proposals which we have made for an Atlantic Nuclear Force, which the House accepted last December despite the most vigorous opposition from the party opposite, have already saved the Western Alliance from what threatened to be a catastrophic crisis over the M.L.F.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1327.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1327.3", "colnum": "1327", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "preceding_text": "eterrent. These really were the words of the right hon. Member for Monmouth (Mr. Thorneycroft). Now they are regarding these same proposals as a way of keeping an independent British deterrent. We know the right hon. Member for Monmouth well. We love him as a performer. He is a versatile fellow, for in 1958 he resigned from the Government because he opposed the British atomic programme altogether.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1327.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1342.1", "colnum": "1342", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The take-off is much shorter.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "the map, we found that there were adequate airstrips in the various parts of the world where we were likely to operate which would enable the C13OE to operate within 100 nautical miles of the scene of any likely ground operations. The additional capability of the HS681 —the capability offered by a slightly shorter take- off—was very marginal compared with the fact that it cost three times as much.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1342.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1349.1", "colnum": "1349", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He did not get any applause.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "mber for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Sydney Silverman). If I might congratulate the Secretary of State for Defence upon one thing, if nothing else, it would be upon the remarkable and anatomical performance of making his speech, or three-quarters of it, to the benches behind him. He said that I would spend my time turning round and looking for applause. The right hon. Gentleman turned round quite a lot.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1349.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1366.2", "colnum": "1366", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "Before the right hon. Gentleman leaves the subject may I remind him that so far—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1366.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1366.2", "colnum": "1366", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Of course he did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "Before the right hon. Gentleman leaves the subject may I remind him that so far—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—he has not said a single word about the Amendment which he has on the Order Paper. I do not think that he even moved it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1366.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1423.1", "colnum": "1423", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Jeger", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Jeger", "preceding_text": " by the mass of the people of this country. They show that there are in the Government no hidebound prejudices. They show that, when face to face with realities in Britain and the world, the Government can make a decision which is consistent with the welfare of Britain and its peace and security. They show—let us be frank about it—that there have been a number of conversions inside the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1423.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1448.3", "colnum": "1448", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": " 1st April last, contented himself with clutching his one battle honour while other great issues, aircraft policy, the seaborne M.L.F., and escalating costs just drifted out of his control. As the right hon. Gentleman said that the A.N.F. had got one battle honour, at least it is to be equated with the right hon. Gentleman in that respect, but with the difference that the A.N.F. is still going on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1448.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1451.1", "colnum": "1451", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about carriers?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "ugh it is different from ours, that the progress of standardisation and the progress of economy can be achieved only by giving priority to a common supply language. In the United States this took six years and the employment of many thousands of people, but a common supply language had to be achieved before they could proceed fully to rationalise the administration and logistics of their Services.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1451.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-03", "file": "debates1965-03-03a.xml", "sha256": "eb625f770cf0eaab", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1453.4", "colnum": "1453", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I called the hon. Member for Edinburgh, West (Mr. Stodart) in error. I see that only one name appears on the Motion and only the hon. Member whose name appears can move it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-03a.1453.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1509.0", "colnum": "1509", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mason", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mason", "preceding_text": "I had not realised that the hon. Gentleman was so naïve.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1509.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1509.0", "colnum": "1509", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mason", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mason", "preceding_text": "I had not realised that the hon. Gentleman was so naïve. [ Interruption. ] The Committee started sitting three weeks ago. This is the first time that the shipbuilding industry has been subjected to an objective appraisal by a technical team of experts who have nothing to do with the industry itself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1509.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1510.5", "colnum": "1510", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "Is my hon. Friend aware that the Japanese are making such headway in shipbuilding because they have no heavy defence expenditure?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1510.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1511.1", "colnum": "1511", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "Would the right hon. Gentleman look to see if it is not possible to get more of what I would call expert technicians on some of the big City boards rather than distinguished gentlemen from other walks of life—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1511.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1516.1", "colnum": "1516", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "Does not the right hon. Gentleman agree that prices are coming down because of the relaxation in resale prices—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1516.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1517.1", "colnum": "1517", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "As we are now a country living on borrowed money—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1517.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1517.1", "colnum": "1517", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "As we are now a country living on borrowed money—[ Interruption. ]—ruled by a Government living on borrowed time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1517.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1517.2", "colnum": "1517", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "If it is any assurance to the hon. Member, I do not propose to charge him royalties for borrowing two phrases that I used at Norwich at the beginning of last October, both of which were emphatically denied by leaders of the Conservative Party, when I pointed out—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1517.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1518.0", "colnum": "1518", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "preceding_text": "t of 16 right hon. and hon. Members opposite as sponsors, including the Secretary of State for the Colonies, a Joint Under-Secretary of State for Scotland and, significantly, a Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport; and that it contained two articles by Mr. Jackie Dash, the Communist leader of the London Liaison Committee? Does not the right hon. Gentleman think it scandalous—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1518.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1518.1", "colnum": "1518", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I am not sure whether the hon. Gentleman is on the mailing list of this publication or is relying on a version—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1518.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1518.1", "colnum": "1518", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I am not sure whether the hon. Gentleman is on the mailing list of this publication or is relying on a version—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"]—issued by the Economic League on 18th January.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1518.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1518.2", "colnum": "1518", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": " of Voice of the Unions there appeared as sponsors the names of three Ministers and a P.P.S., one of them being the Colonial Secretary; and that, on the page opposite, there was an attack on the Colonial Secretary's policy in regard to South Arabia? Is it not very uncomradely, bearing in mind that in this number of Voice of the Unions it is suggested that the Prime Minister is being paid too much—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1518.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1519.2", "colnum": "1519", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Whether the right hon. Gentleman is glad or not does not sound like a question to me, so I cannot answer it, but I am sure that the whole House will be glad when he and his hon. Friends start concentrating on policies instead of squalid little questions like that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1519.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1520.1", "colnum": "1520", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "With permission, I will answer this Question and Questions Nos. Q10 and Q12 together.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1520.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1521.7", "colnum": "1521", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ridley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ridley", "preceding_text": "Is the Prime Minister aware that the Commonwealth Secretary said that the steel industry was responsible without doubt for the balance of payments crises of 1955 and 1961? Is he aware that the steel industry has consistently earned a large profit on foreign exchange? Indeed, in 1961 it earned £76 million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1521.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1553.2", "colnum": "1553", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": " and we have not had one for a long time. But he avoided controversy, apart from, now and then, a little nostalgia for the old election speech that we came to know so well. What is really significant, as it was yesterday, is that until the concluding words of the speech of the right hon. Gentleman, hon. Members opposite have entirely stopped talking about the independent British nuclear deterrent—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1553.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1553.2", "colnum": "1553", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yours or ours?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "then, a little nostalgia for the old election speech that we came to know so well. What is really significant, as it was yesterday, is that until the concluding words of the speech of the right hon. Gentleman, hon. Members opposite have entirely stopped talking about the independent British nuclear deterrent—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—until the very last words. The right hon. Gentleman knows very well—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1553.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1566.0", "colnum": "1566", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "figure in it was not obtainable, it was better to have no agreement at all—instead of the honourable undertaking of an honourable Government, the German Government, to do their best? Is the Prime Minister now saying that it was not worth while obtaining that, and is he really helping his own negotiating position, when he goes to Bonn, with the good wishes of hon. Members in all parts of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1566.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1566.2", "colnum": "1566", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "That was a very interesting speech, but it really did not get the right hon. Gentleman off the hook on which he is impaled. He asked which provision of the Agreement I was querying when I spoke of 30 per cent.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1566.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1567.0", "colnum": "1567", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "Again, the right hon. Gentleman has not answered my question. Given the choice between an agreement with no precise figure and no agreement at all, is he saying that it was wrong to obtain the honourable assurance of the German Government in the way it was obtained? Secondly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1567.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1567.1", "colnum": "1567", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "That is really below the normal standard of the right hon. Gentleman. He asks whether or not we would have accepted the Agreement which he negotiated—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1567.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1567.2", "colnum": "1567", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "That is really below the normal standard of the right hon. Gentleman. He asks whether or not we would have accepted the Agreement which he negotiated—[ Interruption. ]—but that is really a reflection on his negotiating——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1567.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1568.8", "colnum": "1568", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "You are.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Let me complete the sentence. The right hon. and learned Gentleman is not likely to become the Leader of the Opposition.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1568.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1568.10", "colnum": "1568", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": "I merely wish to inform the right hon. Gentleman that so far as I know, and I have been informed about this, my right hon. Friend is in a train hold-up caused by the snow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1568.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1571.1", "colnum": "1571", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "hey said they would get to that position in 1968, but if Mr. McNamara now tells us, on grounds of the shelf life, by which I take him to mean the keeping qualities of the Polaris missile, that there was a doubt about it, then it could hardly be said that this was an independent missile or an independent deterrent. The implication of the cost limit that he gave for retro-fitting Polaris submarines—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1571.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1577.1", "colnum": "1577", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "asons I have mentioned, the heat has been taken out of the defence controversy of those past years. The Government are going forward with a defence policy which is relevant to our position in the world, relevant to our economic resources, relevant to the unique contribution which we can make to the needs of the alliances and the Commonwealth and the peace keeping rôle of the United Nations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1577.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1604.3", "colnum": "1604", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bellenger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bellenger", "preceding_text": "ch in favour of the Government. We all present our point of view in our own way. My hon. Friend the Member for Goole was perhaps a little more enthusiastic than I am, but that does not mean that either of us is disloyal to his party. There are many things in the Amendment which my hon. Friends have put down with which I can sympathise, but, of course, like the Opposition we are loyal to our party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1604.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1652.1", "colnum": "1652", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "how how consistent both he and I have been in the views which we have held for so many years, and why we disagree today as we disagreed in 1960. What I find a little odd, after that evidence of my consistency, was my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Northampton accusing me of inconsistency. I thought that a lot of his argument was a little odd even for one of the House's favourite eccentrics", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1652.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1652.1", "colnum": "1652", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "ews which we have held for so many years, and why we disagree today as we disagreed in 1960. What I find a little odd, after that evidence of my consistency, was my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Northampton accusing me of inconsistency. I thought that a lot of his argument was a little odd even for one of the House's favourite eccentrics [HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"] I say that with affection.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1652.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1654.4", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "I agree with my hon. and learned Friend. In fact, I said the same thing myself in my speech yesterday. I ask my hon. and learned Friend to look again at what I said, because he will find his words almost repeated there. Now I move to the Amendment put by the Opposition, the Conservative Opposition.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1654.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1654.4", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "ght hon. Gentlemen opposite. I am not surprised, when the right hon. Gentleman has so many skeletons in his cupboard, that he is now covered with embarrassment in the rôle of defence spokesman. I hope that he will prove a worthy successor to the right hon. Member for Hampstead (Mr. Brooke) now that he has taken over responsibility for home affairs. The central theme of Opposition spokesmen—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1654.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "No—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "No—[HoN. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"]—I will answer, give me a chance, there is nothing more that I should like than to answer. It is perfectly true that we have bombers which could carry nuclear weapons. We always made clear, in opposition and since, that we would keep those bombers throughout their useful life. It is true—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "in opposition and since, that we would keep those bombers throughout their useful life. It is true—[HoN. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—yes, again and again in defence debates, and we were strongly opposed by some of my hon. Friends below the Gangway. It is true that in 1968 we shall begin to have operational Polaris submarines and that they will carry nuclear weapons. But these are not an independent deterrent—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Who controls it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "ss conference in Australia that Britain does not have an independent nuclear deterrent. Those are the words of the Chief of the Defence Staff, who is praised very highly and who served the right hon. Gentleman in the Ministry of Defence so well and so ably for so many years. The fact that is all-important here is the one to which the right hon. and learned Member for St. Marylebone drew attention—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "eapons by this country independently would bring total destruction to the whole population of our island. No sane British Government could ever conceive in any circumstances taking on the whole weight of the Soviet Union thermo-nuclear power single-handed. They have learnt this fact now but they have learnt it very late and that is why the party opposite have changed their tune. The second reason—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": " whole weight of the Soviet Union thermo-nuclear power single-handed. They have learnt this fact now but they have learnt it very late and that is why the party opposite have changed their tune. The second reason—[HoN. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"]—why hon. and right hon. Gentlemen have changed their line and dropped this talk about dropping bombs on Russia if we get into trouble at Suez, the second reason—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "arnt it very late and that is why the party opposite have changed their tune. The second reason—[HoN. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"]—why hon. and right hon. Gentlemen have changed their line and dropped this talk about dropping bombs on Russia if we get into trouble at Suez, the second reason—[HoN. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"]—that they have dropped it is that they know perfectly well the extravagant and provocative—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1660.1", "colnum": "1660", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": " He was asked again by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister only last December. He did not reply because he could not reply. Had he replied, the whole myth of an independent nuclear deterrent would be destroyed. The change in nuclear policy among the parties in this country has happened on that side of the House, not on this side. All their talk in the last few days has been just a smokescreen—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1660.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-04", "file": "debates1965-03-04a.xml", "sha256": "8a326fa42d979c91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1662.3", "colnum": "1662", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "Horn. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "It must be a long time since a Motion moved by the Government on the subject of defence could not be kept going until 10 o'clock by the Minister winding up the debate. The right hon. Gentleman realised that there was so much opposition from his own side of the House that the sooner he sat down, the less damage he would do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-04a.1662.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1718.1", "colnum": "1718", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hendry", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hendry", "preceding_text": "ened. That has happened in this case, at any rate in my constituency. People were happy with the situation as it was, but as soon as the matter was brought into the limelight it became a live issue, like the company making a loss and the shareholders suddenly taking a lively interest. It would appear that since the Second Reading of the Bill there has been an extraordinary crop of ghastly murders.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1718.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1720.1", "colnum": "1720", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman is perfectly right. I was listening to the hon. Member for Aberdeenshire, West (Mr. Hendry) and I thought that he was going to tell us that he had canvassed his constituents to find out whether they thought that the Bill should be discussed in Committee upstairs or downstairs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1720.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1724.3", "colnum": "1724", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I do not think that anybody else misunderstood what I said. This is a Bill on which some Members are in favour and some against. All I am saying is that those who are in favour of the Bill, including its sponsors, contain Members of all parties in this House. That is all I was saying, and that is all I intended to convey.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1724.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1724.3", "colnum": "1724", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": " have conceded that my anticipation was that the Bill would be kept on the Floor of the House for the Committee stage, and I was prepared to move the necessary Motion for that purpose. I did not move it. It was moved by the right hon. and learned Member for Epsom (Sir P. Rawlinson), and the reason why I did not move it was because the Government preferred that it should go to a Committee upstairs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1724.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1725.1", "colnum": "1725", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": " true that there have been a number of speeches; it is true that some of them have been long speeches; but it is an important Measure and it has to be carefully examined. I do not know what the hon. Member really thinks would happen if we voted to fetch the Bill back here now as he suggests. Is he suggesting that every Member of the House should be able to speak at every stage on every Amendment?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1725.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1746.1", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "I do not dispute that for a moment. I thought that perhaps I was getting a little wide, but you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, did not have the privilege of hearing the hon. Member for Ashford, who dealt with this at some length. But I do not want to widen the discussion. This is the dilemma that faces doctors at the Oldham Hospital every day of the week, and will do for a long time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1746.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1746.3", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Would it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "versy which we have discussed in many connections and on which many of us hold strong views. I say humbly as a member of the Committee, and perhaps it will come better from someone who is not a member of it, that the Committee provides a better opportunity for more informed discussion, remembering of course that if this Motion is defeated the Bill will still come to the House for the Report stage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1746.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1767.6", "colnum": "1767", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "nly, as far as I am aware, has no precedent in the 20 years that I have been here. It has been said, and said quite fairly, that the decision to send the Bill upstairs was the subject of a serious challenge, that there was a serious Division and that there was a substantial minority. How far is it now in accordance with the dignity and with the almost universal respect in which this House is held—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1767.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1771.3", "colnum": "1771", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is true.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "preceding_text": "I regret having given way in view of the character of that intervention.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1771.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1779.2", "colnum": "1779", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "preceding_text": "I am glad to hear that. Perhaps I might ask the Leader of the House a similar question: Are the Government Whips on today? I will give way to the right hon. Gentleman if he wants me to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1779.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1780.1", "colnum": "1780", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Lord President of the Council (Mr. Herbert Bowden)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Lord President of the Council (Mr. Herbert Bowden)", "preceding_text": "g some party political advantage out of the Bill. Every speech, until that of the right hon. and learned Gentleman, dealt with some aspect of the Bill—with the question whether or not, at this stage, it should be taken on the Floor of the House. But the right hon. and learned Gentleman spent most of his time in pure party politics. This is a private Members' day. This is a Private Member's Motion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1780.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1785.3", "colnum": "1785", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"On a Whip.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "atter, for a public Bill, is that after its Second Reading it automatically goes upstairs to Standing Committee. That would have happened on this occasion but for the fact that an hon. Member opposite, whose name I have forgotten, moved that the Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House. This was his entitlement and was in order, but the House rejected it. The House has taken a decision—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1785.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1786.2", "colnum": "1786", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to the Leader of the House for giving way. I wonder whether he could enlighten us on one point. He now concedes that the second vote, namely, as to whether the Bill should be heard in Standing Committee or not, was taken on a Government Whip, and this was presumably a Whip circularised to his own supporters some time in advance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1786.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1786.2", "colnum": "1786", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How was it done?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "preceding_text": " giving way. I wonder whether he could enlighten us on one point. He now concedes that the second vote, namely, as to whether the Bill should be heard in Standing Committee or not, was taken on a Government Whip, and this was presumably a Whip circularised to his own supporters some time in advance. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] It must have been circulated in some way. It could not have been done orally.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1786.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1786.3", "colnum": "1786", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "now perfectly well that the term \"Whip\" means two things: first, the document which is circulated among hon. Members; and second, the hon. Ladies and Gentlemen who sit on the Front Bench as Whips. What happened on this occasion was that there was no notification or document sent to Members on this side that a Division would take place. Official Tellers were put in, which makes it an official Whip.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1786.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1787.1", "colnum": "1787", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Unwarranted.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "The Government assumed that there would be no objection to the Bill going to a Standing Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1787.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1787.3", "colnum": "1787", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "I do not wish to intervene between the abolitionists. I am one myself. I think that it ought to be made absolutely clear that the Government must have control—any Government must—of their own time on the Floor of the House and in Standing Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1787.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1787.3", "colnum": "1787", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Exactly!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "I do not wish to intervene between the abolitionists. I am one myself. I think that it ought to be made absolutely clear that the Government must have control—any Government must—of their own time on the Floor of the House and in Standing Committee—[ Interruption. ]—if we consider a Bill dealing with steel or any other Bill. If we get away from that, what are we doing here, anyway—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1787.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1787.3", "colnum": "1787", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "emind him that if this were to happen—that the Bill came back after Clause 1—that is one exercise. As I understand, the Bill would continue from that point. In reply to the point raised earlier by my hon. Friend the Member for Oldham, West (Mr. Hale), I am advised that if the Motion were carried all the work which has gone before in Standing Committee falls and the Bill starts afresh in Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1787.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1788.1", "colnum": "1788", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"With the Whips.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "ther Committee to deal with them. Standing Committee C has decided not to sit on additional occasions. I think that I am right in saying that there has been one vote on this. The Committee could do so if it wished, but I must say quite firmly that the House ought to reject this Motion on a number of grounds. The first, and perhaps the most important, is that the House has already taken a decision—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1788.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1798.1", "colnum": "1798", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "t intervention allows me to take up a point that I hoped to mention later—the very vexed question, raised repeatedly, of the propriety of the Government deciding whether the Whips should be on, and whether they were on. This has been discussed in Standing Committee, when the assurance was given—and, I understand, accepted—that the Government did not whip their members into the Lobby on that night—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1798.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1799.3", "colnum": "1799", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "e whole consideration of the Motion before the House today—to me and, since I can speak only for myself, when I inquired about the Motion to bring the matter to the Floor of the House I was advised that if the Bill came on to the Floor of the House not only would the time for its deliberation be considerably shortened but that, more particularly, it would so obstruct a heavy legislative programme—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1799.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1800.0", "colnum": "1800", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "that the Government, who had by that time agreed to the consideration of the Bill, might find themselves in great difficulty in time-tabling the matter. It was implied that I could use my discretion in the matter, and this is the essential difference between having the Whips on and having advice given to one. In any case, what are hon. Mem- bers opposite complaining about? Do they not have advice?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1799.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1801.1", "colnum": "1801", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "I hoped that I had dealt with that point, but I am happy to repeat what I have said. Even if the Whips were put on effectively and in a disciplinary way on this side of the House, the fact that hon. Members opposite none the less came into the Division Lobby with us shows that they were exercising a discretion on which one has to give them the benefit of the doubt.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1801.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1802.1", "colnum": "1802", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who abstained?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "I am reminded, by what to others may have been an audible intervention by my hon. Friend the Member for Barons Court (Mr. Richard), of the fact that there were a number of Members of this side of the House who abstained from voting, and the question, therefore, of disciplinary whipping scarcely arises—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1802.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1802.2", "colnum": "1802", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. S. C. Silkin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wise people.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. S. C. Silkin", "preceding_text": "Further to the point my hon. Friend was making a moment ago about those who abstained, I wonder whether he has in mind the fact as he referred to the wicked Members on this side—I cannot recall what the adjective was in relation to hon. Members opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1802.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-05", "file": "debates1965-03-05a.xml", "sha256": "afd8f2c5739c2012", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1803.2", "colnum": "1803", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "robably more than four and a half years to go, and they are bound to take into consideration the effectiveness of their time-table. One of the extraordinary omissions from today's debate, and possibly it is an omission which has arisen, Mr. Speaker, from your Ruling in this matter, has been any reference to the actual content of the debates in the Standing Committee. Hon. Members have pointed out—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-05a.1803.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-08", "file": "debates1965-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "de8c7c0fe0eaf579", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-08a.22.6", "colnum": "22", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So does everyone.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman loses the point, which is that members of the Government are Members of the House, and they have responsibilities to their constituents which they discharge in addition to their responsibilities to the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-08a.22.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-08", "file": "debates1965-03-08a.xml", "sha256": "de8c7c0fe0eaf579", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-08a.122.3", "colnum": "122", "heading": "DEFENCE (ARMY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Julian Snow", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Julian Snow", "preceding_text": "at land they want? This is a most important matter. We shall have to face the question whether we can afford these huge training areas in this country and whether exercises employing armour and involving the wide deployment of infantry ought more properly to be carried out on the Continent? There are hundreds of thousands of acres of land in Scotland which are used as deer forest and grouse moors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-08a.122.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.219.4", "colnum": "219", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I would be sorry if this were so, and it clearly means that the Government should make up their mind on the question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.219.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.225.0", "colnum": "225", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Are they.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "een evident to the House and the country for some time that the level of the rate burden will continue to rise as a result of the burdens which are imposed upon local authorities and the duties which they have to carry out. Although I cannot check in my head the figures which my hon. Friend gave, I must add that, in considering this question, we have to remember that ratepayers are also taxpayers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.225.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.234.2", "colnum": "234", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Farr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Farr", "preceding_text": "Can I remind the right hon. Gentleman—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—that in the phrase—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—\"The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Royal Air Force\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.234.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.234.2", "colnum": "234", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Farr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Farr", "preceding_text": "Can I remind the right hon. Gentleman—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—that in the phrase—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—\"The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Royal Air Force\"—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—there are no fewer than 13—[ Interruption. ] Can I ask the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.234.2"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.258.0", "colnum": "258", "heading": "LORD MORRISON OF LAMBETH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": " the whole South Bank, will be his physical memorials, but, more lasting, will be a conception of human government, local and national, based on the recognition that all that we do here and all that is done in the council chambers and committee rooms throughout the country and more widely has no meaning except in so far as it serves, individual by individual, family by family, our fellow citizens.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.255.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.298.1", "colnum": "298", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 3.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PROVISIONS AS TO LEVIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "mber of Amendments were made. Most of the further Amendments which have been agreed during the Report stage follow on points which were raised during the Committee stage. This illustrates the contribution which hon. Members on both sides of the House made to the deliberations on the Bill. At the same time, they show that the Government have displayed a reasonable and receptive attitude throughout.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.298.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.354.1", "colnum": "354", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MILK", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "reas, which admittedly are small, sales of Channel Islands milk represent about 20 per cent. of the supply of liquid milk. It is, therefore, important for those areas. It is true that the Thorold Committee recommended that Channel Islands milk should be decontrolled. It recommended, in fact, the decontrol of all special milks. It is a long time, over 2½ years, since that Committee reported.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.354.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.358.3", "colnum": "358", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MILK", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "o radically between November and 17th December that the right hon. Gentleman changed his mind about an increase? Was pressure put upon him, or did he for once have enough courage to stand up to his right hon. Friends in the Cabinet and insist on this increase? The whole tenor of the hon. Gentleman's reply is most unsatisfactory. In the circumstances it would not be right to vote against the Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.358.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-09", "file": "debates1965-03-09a.xml", "sha256": "8601c3dc710a5ffd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.367.1", "colnum": "367", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MINISTRY OF LAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES (POWERS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "ms. I come back to the fact that we have established by Questions that the Minister does not have the powers, but has the very difficult job of trying to conciliate and consult the various Departments—gas and coal, North Sea, sand and gravel, sports, national environment, land planning Scotland, Ulster and Wales. We know what happened when Neville Chamberlain was made Minister of National Service—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-09a.367.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.400.0", "colnum": "400", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "mileage terms of these highways is minimal to a degree? Has he further considered the implications to be drawn from the statement of road development to 1984 as shown in map 21, page 94, of the February report of British Rail? Will he agree that construction of these roads in South Wales will help exports flow more speedily from South Wales ports? Is he aware—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.400.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.400.7", "colnum": "400", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "Does the right hon. Gentleman realise that one of these is in my constituency, that it has been there since the year 1766 and that Governments of all three parties have done nothing about it at all?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.400.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.428.3", "colnum": "428", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "preceding_text": " Paymaster-General, who has been courteous enough to attend; I am referring directly to him and quoting his words—said: I found that the right hon. Gentleman had been trying to get away with it by putting in… attached\".—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 8th March, 1965; Vol. 708, c. 75.] instead of \"detached\". That again, was a direct and personal reference to my right hon. Friend the Member for Harrogate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.428.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.432.3", "colnum": "432", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "I understood—and I am very kind to the hon. Gentleman—that what he was asking was that the Chairman of Ways and Means should make some kind of suggestion to Mr. Speaker as to the kind of influence which Mr. Speaker should hold. This Chairman is not prepared to make any such suggestions—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.432.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.432.7", "colnum": "432", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "Order. I hope that all kinds of well-meaning and innocent suggestions will not exacerbate things further. I had better say, for the record, that neither the Chairman of Ways and Means nor Mr. Speaker has any influence over the Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.432.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.474.9", "colnum": "474", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Estimates?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "That is precisely my criticism of the Estimates today. The economic situation of this country is worse, yet the cost of the Estimates has gone up. But my exhortations have passed unnoticed, as they usually do. The present economic situation, as the Minister has said, has resulted in the Government having to look at the Estimates of the previous Government and cut them by approximately £56 million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.474.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.478.2", "colnum": "478", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member nods his head. While I am a technological realist, I am also a political realist. There is one suggestion on which I think I ought to finish, and which is based on something in the Air Estimates of which I approve. I am attracted by the idea of helicopters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.478.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.488.1", "colnum": "488", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Orme", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Orme", "preceding_text": "estion to which I have not even now received a satisfactory answer. The question of the rôle. of the V-bombers east of Suez is most disquieting. I want to know specifically whether those aircraft are to carry independent nuclear weapons, the deterrent. I contend that the Government's policy—the policy on which I fought the election—was that we would reject the independent nuclear deterrent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.488.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.498.3", "colnum": "498", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Doig", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Doig", "preceding_text": " spent on recruiting, which must be a very large sum, could be cut down very substantially. We are told in the White Paper that the Royal Air Force is short of tradesmen and specialists. Why is this? Why cannot the R.A.F. get motor drivers, motor mechanics, electricians, clerks and the rest? The answer is that, in order to serve in the R.A.F., or any other Service, these men have to become slaves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.498.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.501.1", "colnum": "501", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Doig", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Badly trained.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Doig", "preceding_text": "What I am trying to say is that the vast bulk of this training is wasted. Although many commercial drivers were taken into the R.A.F. and taught how to do all sorts of intricate things, when a vehicle broke down hardly any of them could ever make a repair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.501.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.507.0", "colnum": "507", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. R. Wise", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. R. Wise", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend has said that the Government have stated that they want the C130s quickly. They will not get them very early. According to the Government, the aircraft has not been made yet.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.507.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.507.1", "colnum": "507", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "preceding_text": "I am aware of that. It reinforces my point. The Minister admitted earlier—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.507.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.541.0", "colnum": "541", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": "d and protect Western civilisation from any possible attack. Therefore, I believe that it is right and proper that there should be a coming and going, that we should use the best of their equipment and that they should use the best of ours. To some degree this has been happening. There are more Rolls-Royce engines manufactured under licence powering American planes than there are American engines.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.541.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.541.0", "colnum": "541", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": "quipment and that they should use the best of ours. To some degree this has been happening. There are more Rolls-Royce engines manufactured under licence powering American planes than there are American engines. [An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"] Not more. At least there are as many. It is a very high proportion. Rolls-Royce engines, both for civil and military purposes, are manufactured there under licence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.541.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.541.0", "colnum": "541", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Even in Parliament.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": "he situation at all. Many of us, over the last 13 years, have witnessed the decline in coal mining Many of us have seen hundreds of miners—skilled men working at the coal face, using a skill which is required by no one else—having to take their labour into other fields. Of course, in an authoritarian society one can be pushed to do a job, but in a free society one must be free to change one's job.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.541.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.565.1", "colnum": "565", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Victor Goodhew", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Victor Goodhew", "preceding_text": "at subject, especially after the provocative remarks of the hon. Member for Buckingham. In passing, I must say—I must get back to other matters of importance before coming round to aircraft towards the end of my speech—that the TSR2, in any event, started off as a tactical strike and reconnaissance aircraft, and the nuclear capability was a bonus which was found to be there. It was never intended—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.565.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.565.1", "colnum": "565", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Victor Goodhew", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Victor Goodhew", "preceding_text": "ebates in the past, and we have missed him tonight. However, his hon. Friend the Member for Buckingham has done exactly the same thing, having come in after dinner and filled in a happy few minutes. He must accept that this is the position about TSR2. When the hon. Member for Buckingham says that the Administration which departed in October left a frightful mess for the Government to take care of—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.565.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.571.3", "colnum": "571", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "preceding_text": "hon. Members opposite—the hon. Member for Salford, West (Mr. Orme) among them—who are anxious about this because they are once more concerned with the nuclear capacity of these aircraft. I would just suggest that these aircraft have a conventional rôle as well; and that it would be quite wrong for any Minister to say outright whether they were there for conventional or for nuclear purposes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.571.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-10", "file": "debates1965-03-10a.xml", "sha256": "b2dc5b658efcdf16", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.574.1", "colnum": "574", "heading": "Orders of the Day — DEFENCE (AIR) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "preceding_text": "e companies would pay taxes on their profits; the people making profits or earning money would pay Purchase Tax. Much of the money would go back to the Treasury. How can it be said that £30 million a year will be saved? I should like an explanation of how this figure is arrived at. This is the first time a Government have taken a deliberate decision not to give the R.A.F. the best planes possible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-10a.574.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.607.0", "colnum": "607", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mills", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mills", "preceding_text": "Will the Minister bear in mind the very real need in Okehampton for a comprehensive school? Will he also bear in mind that many of us want a comprehensive school in the area—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.607.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.616.0", "colnum": "616", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "I accept my right hon. Friend's reasons for the difficulty of finding these numbers and statistics. However, is he aware that the University Grants Committee was charged to maintain a department which would procure this information and that it has divested itself of this responsibility? Would my right hon. Friend reimpose upon it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.616.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.616.0", "colnum": "616", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "n. Friend's reasons for the difficulty of finding these numbers and statistics. However, is he aware that the University Grants Committee was charged to maintain a department which would procure this information and that it has divested itself of this responsibility? Would my right hon. Friend reimpose upon it—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—the need to obtain this information? Would he further consult—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.616.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.616.0", "colnum": "616", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "ittee was charged to maintain a department which would procure this information and that it has divested itself of this responsibility? Would my right hon. Friend reimpose upon it—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—the need to obtain this information? Would he further consult—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—his right hon. Friend in the Foreign Office to assist in the obtaining of this information which would be—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.616.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.623.3", "colnum": "623", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blaker", "preceding_text": "Is not the Prime Minister aware that there is nothing in the Agreement which need have prevented him from pinning the Germans down to a fixed sum of purchases at this time? In view of what he has said in the past about this Agreement, is he aware that there is widespread disappointment in the House and the country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.623.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.624.1", "colnum": "624", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ennals", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ennals", "preceding_text": "Will my right hon. Friend accept the congratulations of the House on the success of his visit—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.624.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.627.3", "colnum": "627", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "With regard to the proposals, there were in the British Press over the weekend a number of suggestions, which appeared to be very strongly-based suggestions, of particular figures of £90 million, and so on. These figures were never mentioned at any point in the discussions, and must have been based by the British Press concerned on some misunderstanding—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.627.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.630.3", "colnum": "630", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speak up.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "Can the right hon. Gentleman say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.630.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.636.0", "colnum": "636", "heading": "HOUSING (REPORT OF THE MILNER HOLLAND COMMITTEE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dudley Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dudley Smith", "preceding_text": "Would the right hon. Gentleman not agree that the conclusions of the Report are that the problem is far more complex than was realised on both sides of the House when this inquiry was initiated? Would the right hon. Gentleman further agree that this is a problem peculiar to London?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.636.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.638.2", "colnum": "638", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too late.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "re are about 100 of them—will have much enthusiasm for it either. Apart altogether from the merits or demerits of the Bill, it is a marked departure from the usual procedure and would seem at first sight to prejudge the findings of the Select Committee on Procedure which is sitting on this very matter. Therefore, I must consider with my right hon. and hon. Friends what our attitude to this may be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.638.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.694.1", "colnum": "694", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": "ve savings and a better use of sites and buildings. Consider, first, air stations. The Navy has a number of them and so has the R.A.F., but none of them is fully used. Why not make combined use of some stations and close down others? Consider, next, the Royal Marines, to which reference has been made in the debate. At one time consideration was given to the abolition of the \"bullocks\" of the Navy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.694.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.700.0", "colnum": "700", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"H.M.S. Pinafore'.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Commander Pursey", "preceding_text": " one week and 240 students on courses varying from two days to two weeks. I have taken these figures from HANSARD of 5th March, 1965, c. 325. This represents a total of only 1,600 trained students per annum with a weekly average, for 52 weeks, of only 30–about two students per member of the staff. Even Gilbert and Sullivan, in their wildest dreams, for their comic opera, H.M.S. \"Pianofore\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.700.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.717.3", "colnum": "717", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Brigadier Clarke", "preceding_text": " they have been treated and that they were unable to get the portion of their pension to which they were entitled by reason of red tape restrictions. I wish to draw the attention of the Minister to the fact that one day if some of the Left-wing people in his party—and perhaps in other parties—have their say, there will be cuts in armaments. This has been advocated from both sides of the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.717.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.740.1", "colnum": "740", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for clarifying his party's attitude, because it makes nonsense of every one of its election pledges.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.740.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.746.3", "colnum": "746", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He will be.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "I am sorry that my right hon. Friend is not here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.746.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.779.1", "colnum": "779", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Rear-Admiral Morgan Giles", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Winchester.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Rear-Admiral Morgan Giles", "preceding_text": "et, which contributes so powerfully to the independent British nuclear deterrent. If so, we should all rejoice. On the other hand, it may be an indication that recruiting is worse than we had feared, and that perhaps in a mood of desperation the Minister seeks to recruit from among hon. Members. Is there a possibility of by-elections in some constituencies? What about Ebbw Vale, or South Ayrshire—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.779.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-11", "file": "debates1965-03-11a.xml", "sha256": "f67fbea97408d076", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.798.3", "colnum": "798", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not here.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "preceding_text": "squadron. It will not trot round the ordinary seaside resorts. It will go to the industrial ports where the flag is not always shown and try to do an extensive burst of recruiting. For the Fleet Air Arm we are sending out presentation material to all sorts of inland towns and schools, and the rest. We are trying to stir up the old publicity. The old tradition of the silent Service dies a bit hard—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-11a.798.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-12", "file": "debates1965-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "ed7f19e6a2191a0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-12a.830.1", "colnum": "830", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRAVEL AGENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "d with any other facet of trade, commerce or industry. When I leave the House today I will get into a taxi in New Palace Yard and go to the West London Air Terminal. If the taxi driver wishes to go via Battersea Power Station I will know that I am being over-charged. It may need a great deal of courage these days to argue with a taxi driver, but the solution of the problem is entirely in my hands.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-12a.830.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-12", "file": "debates1965-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "ed7f19e6a2191a0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-12a.849.4", "colnum": "849", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRAVEL AGENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Milne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Milne", "preceding_text": "he contrary, then with the other two bodies mentioned as having representation on this council, outside the Board of Trade and the Secretaries of State, about whom there was much confusion earlier, what we can say and say quite definitely —and I am not going to give way again on this point, and I am leaving it at the moment—is that A.B.T.A. and A.B.T.A. associates have on this council a majority —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-12a.849.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-12", "file": "debates1965-03-12a.xml", "sha256": "ed7f19e6a2191a0e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-12a.850.2", "colnum": "850", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRAVEL AGENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Doughty", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Doughty", "preceding_text": "I am much obliged to the hon. Member, but I must check his arithmetic. The size of the council is 11 members, of whom five are appointed by the Association of British Travel Agents, with which the British Travel and Holidays Association has nothing whatever to do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-12a.850.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.862.2", "colnum": "862", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I could not answer that in anticipation of the finishing of the decorations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.862.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.862.2", "colnum": "862", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I could not answer that in anticipation of the finishing of the decorations. [ Laughter. ] The work at Admiralty House includes essential long deferred structural work and it is likely to cost about £100,000 in all", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.862.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.864.2", "colnum": "864", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I notice that in the Press publicity in which the hon. Gentleman indulged in advance of this Question he referred to the fact that he had not a bath in his room at the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.864.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.877.6", "colnum": "877", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I cannot be responsible for the wild guesses that appear in the Press from time to time. There is a difficulty for anyone placed in the position that I am in, knowing all that has taken place. The only thing I always fear is that the truth will appear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.877.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.879.3", "colnum": "879", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pentland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Have a go.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pentland", "preceding_text": "This is a very difficult question to answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.879.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.880.4", "colnum": "880", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "It is interesting to hear of the feelings of the noble Lord.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.880.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.880.4", "colnum": "880", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "It is interesting to hear of the feelings of the noble Lord. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"] Yes, I shall answer in my own way. The noble Lord's Government were in power for 13 years and in this matter of covering people who should be covered by an income guarantee nothing at all was done. We have been in power for five months.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.880.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.882.0", "colnum": "882", "heading": "COMPLAINT OF PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "ur. Sometimes it is his own fault: instead of brushing off the importunate like so many flies, which is what they deserve, he chooses to deliver them a homily. Wherever the blame may be judged to lie, the result is that the Order Paper is stuffed full of questions that will be ancient history before they are answered, and the hour that ought to be Parliament's finest is Parliament's most wretched.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.881.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.893.4", "colnum": "893", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": " after the figure of £25 million was given and not pure escalation, although I do not say that is no element of escalation.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 11th March, 1965; Vol. 708, c. 708.] In this we are told that, in addition to the cost of the base, there is £9 million that we were not told about at all. It was only by acting as an amateur Sherlock Holmes on these Estimates that I discovered this at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.893.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.939.3", "colnum": "939", "heading": "DEFENCE (NAVY) ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "preceding_text": "I was about to say to my hon. and gallant Friend, hoping not to be out of order, that I was not really talking about pleasure swimming from a battleship in Valletta Harbour, and so on, but about having to swim for it from a large or a small vessel in tropical seas. This is a serious matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.939.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.967.1", "colnum": "967", "heading": "DEFENCE (ARMY) ESTIMATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "keep of the Gibraltar Regiment. May I be told what its strength is and whether there are any plans for increasing the Gibraltar Regiment? Following the Government's recent attitude and their mistakes in that theatre, I think it would be a good thing to increase the Gibraltar Regiment and I am sure the hon. Gentleman would find willing volunteers. Perhaps the Barbary apes are included in this item.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.967.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.979.3", "colnum": "979", "heading": "DEFENCE (ARMY) ESTIMATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Reynolds", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Reynolds", "preceding_text": "sia remains substantially unchanged we have no intention of altering the Gurkha Brigade. The hon. Gentleman may not be completely satisfied with that answer, but, nevertheless, he may be more satisfied with that than with the attitude which the previous Administration took with the Gurkha Brigade, for they reduced its numbers. The hon. Member for Beckenham referred, I think, to quantity surveyors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.979.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-15", "file": "debates1965-03-15a.xml", "sha256": "ed115dd850f06900", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.1027.1", "colnum": "1027", "heading": "DEFENCE (ARMY) ESTIMATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Davies", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Davies", "preceding_text": "rder that power will be given to it. The hon. Lady asked about the 2s. 1d. and 2s. 4d. Those who know the mines know what checkweighmen are, and also the pick sharpeners and all the other ancillary workers in and around the mines. These men have grown up over the ages to protect the rights of the colliers in respect of rates and weight of coal cut. They are not employed directly by the Coal Board.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-15a.1027.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1061.2", "colnum": "1061", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — WIRELESS AND TELEVISION", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Is it possible for you, Mr. Speaker, to allow the Postmaster-General—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1061.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1063.3", "colnum": "1063", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — STEEL INDUSTRY (NATIONALISATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ridley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ridley", "preceding_text": "May I ask my supplementary question?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1063.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1066.5", "colnum": "1066", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Having had help from both the shadow Home Secretary and now the shadow Foreign Secretary on these questions, I would first inform the right hon. Gentleman, as he can look up for himself, that in November I said nothing of the kind, even though the right hon. Gentleman went on television and completely misrepresented what I said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1066.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1070.5", "colnum": "1070", "heading": "VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Rubbish.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Kerr", "preceding_text": "Does the Prime Minister appreciate that a large section of American public opinion would welcome a public statement by this Government dissociating themselves from the attacks on North Vietnam?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1070.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1111.1", "colnum": "1111", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "preceding_text": " his shepherds to come from outside to the village. This is the sort of thing that planning can do. What can we do? Obviously, there are clear lines of development. First, the Government have the power, through the Board, to create development. It will be a long job if the Government try to do it themselves. The most important thing is to get private enterprise, where it is willing, to do the job.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1111.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1126.1", "colnum": "1126", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Archie Manuel", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Archie Manuel", "preceding_text": "hat the Liberal Party think about this. We shall hear from their representatives if they get called, but possibly not all will be called. It should be recognised that the Liberal Party can say, do and think what they like, because, in practice, they will never have the chance to do any thing. That is a fine position to be in. They have not to act with the responsibility which I have, for instance—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1126.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1137.1", "colnum": "1137", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And subsidies.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "preceding_text": "a man wants peace, quiet and the illusion of being a Highland laird. There is a prestige thing about having thousands of empty acres on which to stride about. I know a little about this, because these feelings may have entered my breast at times. However, they have been stamped down in favour of the development of the land I happen to own, with the help of the excellent banking system in Scotland—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1137.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1192.3", "colnum": "1192", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Campbell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Campbell", "preceding_text": "nough in winter sports to come. But it has in fact gone from strength to strength. If the Secretary of State, through the new Board, were to try to take over the Cairngorm Winter Sports Development Board, he would meet a great deal of opposition, the fiercest probably from myself because its members happen to be my constituents. What has it experienced in the last five months of Labour Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1192.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1217.2", "colnum": "1217", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT (SCOTLAND) [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Scotland (Mr. William Ross)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Scotland (Mr. William Ross)", "preceding_text": "ly pointed out, concentrate purely on the Highland Development Board, which is to bring so much benefit to a part of Scotland which needs it and which was neglected in the past by hon. Members opposite. They will be able to spread their desire for financial concern in other fields as well. I must break the news to my hon. Friend the Member for West Stirling-shire (Mr. W. Baxter) that the purposes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1217.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-16", "file": "debates1965-03-16a.xml", "sha256": "7914d8d828995aec", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1234.5", "colnum": "1234", "heading": "Orders of the Day — POLICE PENSIONS REGULATIONS", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "I am not, and the hon. Member knows it. I apologise that it should be the Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department whom I should be attacking tonight, because he is one of my greatest friends on the other side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-16a.1234.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1270.1", "colnum": "1270", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "preceding_text": "I do not wish to be drawn into these comparisons—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1270.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1276.6", "colnum": "1276", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "preceding_text": "Will the right hon. Gentleman also endeavour to sell the Short's Sea Cat—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1276.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1282.0", "colnum": "1282", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "You will recall, Mr. Speaker, that the other day my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Rowley Regis and Tipton (Mr. A. Henderson) made a submission to you on this question because the procedure which had been adopted in the House was preventing hon. Members from having their normal Questions answered by members of the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1282.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1282.0", "colnum": "1282", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "hon. and learned Friend the Member for Rowley Regis and Tipton (Mr. A. Henderson) made a submission to you on this question because the procedure which had been adopted in the House was preventing hon. Members from having their normal Questions answered by members of the Government. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"] I hope that the House will be satisfied that the matter should be left in your discretion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1282.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1282.4", "colnum": "1282", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "I thank you for the letter which you sent me this morning, Mr. Speaker, and I fully accept the inference of guilt which it carried. It was my handwriting which was on the Questions put in yesterday. I hope that you will be aware that the exercise was done with intent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1282.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1282.5", "colnum": "1282", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "I thank you for the letter which you sent me this morning, Mr. Speaker, and I fully accept the inference of guilt which it carried. It was my handwriting which was on the Questions put in yesterday. I hope that you will be aware that the exercise was done with intent. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I ask you to bear in mind that the abuse of Question Hour started not on this side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1282.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1285.2", "colnum": "1285", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "The discussions are proceeding at the moment with the Trades Union Congress, the manufacturers, the employers and the various other bodies of which one broadly speaks as being on that side of industry. I think that, on the whole, the consumer is fairly well represented in me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1285.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1289.0", "colnum": "1289", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "preceding_text": "re in similar conditions? What are the increases in the standard quantities for wheat and barley? Is it not true to say that the cuts made are the maximum under the Acts? Is it necessary on this scale, or has there been, as we have good reason to suppose from previous things said on these occasions, some political prejudice against the big grower? I will not weary the House with further questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1289.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1290.0", "colnum": "1290", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Resign.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "preceding_text": "I give one example, Farmers have nothing to fear but much to gain from a Labour Government\". Where does his party stand in respect of its manifesto— Farmers, too, will be given a new certainty.\"? After this Review, the only certain thing in farming will be uncertainty as to the intentions of the Labour Government. I would ask the Minister what his own intention is and whether he intends to resign.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1289.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1291.0", "colnum": "1291", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "sten to my reply to the right hon. Gentleman. We are giving an award which means for the milk producer a further increase of £11 million. Nine million pounds will come from the increase in the price per gallon and £2 million will come from the increase in the standard quantity. This is an award of £11 million more than they had last year. It is on top of last year's award. This really is generous.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1291.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1294.5", "colnum": "1294", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer the question.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "I gave examples for each year—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1294.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1342.3", "colnum": "1342", "heading": "Orders of the Day — NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (DOCTORS' PAY AND CONDITIONS", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. Stoddart-Scott", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A Labour Government.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Stoddart-Scott", "preceding_text": "I am glad to hear that, because some of us feared that the plan was being changed and cut, just as the number of universities to be built is being reduced from four to one. This crisis has been blowing up for many years, and I believe that what has brought it to a head is—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1342.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1342.3", "colnum": "1342", "heading": "Orders of the Day — NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (DOCTORS' PAY AND CONDITIONS", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. Stoddart-Scott", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"£5½ million.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Stoddart-Scott", "preceding_text": "an, untrue and petty for the Minister to say that some consultants have complained about the hospitals simply because a Labour Government had been elected. I do not think for one moment that that is true. What I think is true is that the doctors saw that £26 million was going to remove prescription charges while they themselves were getting only £1½ million, out of the last recommendations£", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1342.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-17", "file": "debates1965-03-17a.xml", "sha256": "dd1c83abe2a0865c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1370.1", "colnum": "1370", "heading": "Orders of the Day — NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (DOCTORS' PAY AND CONDITIONS", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Davies", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Davies", "preceding_text": " million for the first year in Beveridge's plan, and an actual expenditure of £373 million. Aneurin Bevan once said: Little men do silly little sums. Is this such a little sum? I have been doing a little totting up, and I have worked out the cost of the Health Service since its inception has been about £10,000 million, which is an excess of £8,000 million on the original costing done by Beveridge.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-17a.1370.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1454.4", "colnum": "1454", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Election.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morrison", "preceding_text": "With respect, I do not think the right hon. Gentleman has quite answered my question. I was asking whether he intended to increase the programme in those years, while appreciating that the Conservative Government allocated a big increase for 1965–66.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1454.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1461.2", "colnum": "1461", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "surprised to hear the hon. Member's strong interest and that of other hon. Members opposite in parents sending their children to State schools. If one takes the State and direct grant schools together, one finds that some 17 per cent. of Conservative Members of Parliament send their children there; some 78 per cent. of Labour Members of Parliament, and 0 per cent. of Liberal Members of Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1461.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1461.6", "colnum": "1461", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I understand that the Secretary of State has just alleged that none of the children of Liberal hon. Members—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1461.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1462.0", "colnum": "1462", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, Hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. It is no good the House treating me like this if it wants me to get on with supplementary questions. To be quite frank with the House, I thought that those personal matters were best passed on from. I would have allowed a Liberal supplementary question at the time, but the individual hon. Members concerned—the hon. Member was not here—were a little slow off the mark.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1461.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1462.3", "colnum": "1462", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I want the House to understand that hon. Members sometimes make, or are said to make, horrible misstatements as to fact. I cannot, on points of order, make requests for them to be corrected. I was making no assumption about the fact one way or the other.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1462.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1467.0", "colnum": "1467", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "preceding_text": "tly appreciated by education authorities, as my hon. Friends have said, and that the decision of the former Secretary of State that the limit should be raised to £2,500 was very widely welcomed at last year's conference of the Association of Education Committees? Will the hon. Gentleman take it from me that we would, had we remained in power, have adopted a realistic figure for \"mini-minor\" works?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1467.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1472.3", "colnum": "1472", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "Will the Prime Minister bear in mind that there are considerable objections to the merging into the Ministry of Defence of all the procurement functions at present carried out by the Ministry of Aviation?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1472.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1478.0", "colnum": "1478", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "I should have thought that it would be permissible under the Standing Order to appoint more, but what I do say is that the House owes its first obligation to the people and not to any of its own procedures or party arrangements.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1478.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1480.7", "colnum": "1480", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "preceding_text": "With reference to the Motion concerning representation on the Standing Committee, the Leader of the House mentioned Standing Order No. 61, which says—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1480.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1488.1", "colnum": "1488", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "Holy. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": " Third Reading. Therefore, the argument that we sent it upstairs simply with the object of hiding it is absolute nonsense, and I am surprised that hon. and learned Gentlemen of the calibre of the right hon. And learned Member for Epsom used such an argument. After the decision on 5th March, the Government could have taken a number of courses. First of all, we could have dropped the Bill altogether", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1488.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1499.1", "colnum": "1499", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "preceding_text": " who serve us here: the police who have to come in all day when the House sits; the refreshment rooms will need to be more fully manned; there are the Clerks of the House, whose mornings are already full, will have to be in attendance. Then there is the Press. We pretend not to observe them, but we are well aware of their presence here and they will have to work extra shifts in order to report us.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1499.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3", "colnum": "1507", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Particularly on a Friday.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "—I can possibly answer the things he wants to say. He is such a regular interrupter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3", "colnum": "1507", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They have decided?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "ders. Therefore, it was surely a natural expectation of everyone that the Bill would be committed to a Standing Committee. Of course, it is quite competent for any hon. Member of the House to move that the Committee stage be taken on the Floor of the House, but it is equally competent for the Government of the day to decide whether they want it on the Floor of the House or in a Standing Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3", "colnum": "1507", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "hout upsetting any future Government timetable, it does exactly that. It makes it possible for all hon. Members of the House to get the publicity they want and gives an opportunity for every hon. Member who wants to make his contribution to the Bill to do so, but it has to be on a Wednesday morning. I might say that it is also a good example of an opportunity to try out something new in procedure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3", "colnum": "1507", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "1955–59. I moved that meetings should be held, for a trial period, on Wednesday mornings, to give the House an opportunity to judge whether such sittings were suitable, whether they would be of any great value, and to discover whether the House wished to proceed with them. I did not get my way then. Now there will be an opportunity, because when this Motion is passed tonight, as it will be—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3", "colnum": "1507", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Blackburn", "preceding_text": "opportunity to judge whether such sittings were suitable, whether they would be of any great value, and to discover whether the House wished to proceed with them. I did not get my way then. Now there will be an opportunity, because when this Motion is passed tonight, as it will be—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] I do not think that there is any doubt about it. When it is passed there will be an opportunity—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1507.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1553.3", "colnum": "1553", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilkins", "preceding_text": "The only time I normally pair is on a Friday, as, like most hon. Members in the House, I have commitments in my constituency. My hon. and right hon. Friends on the Front Bench will advise my colleague from Bristol, West (Mr. Robert Cooke) that I have rigidly opposed the pairing system in the House, and that I should like to see it abolished.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1553.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1556.1", "colnum": "1556", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And others.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilkins", "preceding_text": "I should be most sorry if the hon. Member for Bodmin thought that I was including him among those hon. Members, and I certainly apologise to him—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1556.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1559.1", "colnum": "1559", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "preceding_text": "The point I made was that the hon. Gentleman expected it to be taken on the Floor of the House. He told me that. I believe that the Leader of the House and the Chief Patronage Secretary knew that he expected that because any intelligent person would have believed that to be the case.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1559.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1559.1", "colnum": "1559", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "preceding_text": "int I made was that the hon. Gentleman expected it to be taken on the Floor of the House. He told me that. I believe that the Leader of the House and the Chief Patronage Secretary knew that he expected that because any intelligent person would have believed that to be the case. [ Interruption. ] It may be that the Chief Patronage Secretary is casting some doubt on who is or who is not intelligent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1559.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1560.1", "colnum": "1560", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Berkeley", "preceding_text": "ery what the Government are asking the House to do today. The Government and the Chief Patronage Secretary have behaved with extraordinary discourtesy to the promoters of the Bill on this side of this House and with astonishing discourtesy to the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne because the hon. Gentleman did not know at 8.45 p.m. on the day on which this matter was first debated that at 10 p.m. —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1560.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1581.1", "colnum": "1581", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "se, and the invariable claim on the Opposition side, is that where a Bill is beyond question, constitutional, it is taken for granted that it will be left on the Floor of the House; and I for one took it for granted. When I asked one or two of my hon. Friends and was told that that was so, I went off to bed, All that perhaps is of no great importance, but it may perhaps have cleared some memories—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1581.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1581.1", "colnum": "1581", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "and balances are gone. \"We are the masters now\", \"How many Ministers there are depends on what the Prime Minister thinks will be convenient\"—and all that. These things have gone beyond all checking and balancing. They are matters of one-time \"Yes\" or \"No\". I warn hon. and right hon. Members opposite of another thing: the world is divided. We are now fighting as our ancestors did from 1791 to 1815—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1581.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1581.1", "colnum": "1581", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"1815?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "at the Prime Minister thinks will be convenient\"—and all that. These things have gone beyond all checking and balancing. They are matters of one-time \"Yes\" or \"No\". I warn hon. and right hon. Members opposite of another thing: the world is divided. We are now fighting as our ancestors did from 1791 to 1815—[ Laughter. ]that was not funny either. I do not know which hon. Members opposite took part—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1581.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1591.1", "colnum": "1591", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Curran", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Curran", "preceding_text": "o put pressure on hon. Members. I am, therefore, in favour of the Bill coming to the Floor of the House. I do not wish to use the expression \"sharp practice\". I will not impute any motives but simply state the facts as I see them. When we voted—and I was one who did—to bring the Bill back to the Floor of the House we meant a Committee of the whole House sitting at the usual time, in the afternoon.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1591.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1591.1", "colnum": "1591", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Curran", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Curran", "preceding_text": " Bill be dealt with by a Committee of the whole House which meets in the morning is not a matter simply of the difference between ten o'clock and two o'clock. In fact—we all know it; the Government know it as well as anybody—if we send the Bill to a Committee of the whole House meeting in the mornings, we shall exclude from the discussions of the Bill a considerable number of Members of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1591.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1592.0", "colnum": "1592", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why not?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Curran", "preceding_text": "o a Committee of the whole House meeting in the mornings, we shall exclude from the discussions of the Bill a considerable number of Members of the House. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I am delighted with that interruption. That is exactly the information I wanted. If the Committee of the whole House meets in the morning, a large proportion of hon. Members will not be able to take part in the discussions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1591.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1593.0", "colnum": "1593", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Yes, we are.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "preceding_text": "The question \"Why not?\" is an interesting one. I will make hon. Members opposite a present of this. It may be that some of them are busy making money outside. It may be that some of them are directors of companies. It may be that some of them are earning money in the courts. It may even be that some of them are earning money in Fleet Street. We are not concerned with why they will not be here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1592.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1593.5", "colnum": "1593", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman might listen to what I say before he says that he will not agree with me. Will he not agree with me that, if we debate the Bill in a Committee of the whole House meeting in the mornings, we shall in fact —whether this is a good or a bad fact is beside the point—exclude from the debate most of the lawyers in the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1593.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1594.4", "colnum": "1594", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "preceding_text": " number of lawyers who will be too busy to come here. It may be that we ought to alter the composition of the House. It may be that it can be argued, though I do not think that this is the place to argue it, that the House ought to change its character and become a place inhabited entirely by full-time professional politicians working factory hours, clocking in at ten o'clock and going on all day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1594.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1596.2", "colnum": "1596", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Rhodes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And some old ones.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Rhodes", "preceding_text": "er for Rushcliffe (Sir M. Redmayne) made the point, which has been followed by several speakers opposite, that meeting in the morning will deprive the House of the services of those who have a broadening of interest as a result of their activities in the City, in Fleet Street, or in the courts of law. I think that I can speak here with the full support of practically every new Member on this side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1596.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1599.1", "colnum": "1599", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "preceding_text": "I will—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1599.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1599.3", "colnum": "1599", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "preceding_text": "I will give way—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1599.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1600.0", "colnum": "1600", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Craven core.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. I think that the House has to think about this and I propose to secure that it does. If the right hon. and learned Gentleman who is speaking does not give way, the hon. Member for Penistone (Mr. Mendelson) must not persist.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1599.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1601.2", "colnum": "1601", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman must forgive us if we look with a little scepticism upon that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1601.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1601.2", "colnum": "1601", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "preceding_text": " stage started and before my hon. Friend the Member for Exeter (Sir Rolf Dudley Williams) put down his Motion. We therefore started the Committee stage amid the protests taken up in the Committee that the Bill should proceed there at all. Then it was the good fortune of my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeenshire, West (Mr. Hendry) to win in the ballot the right to put the Motion before the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1601.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1601.2", "colnum": "1601", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Rawlinson", "preceding_text": "nation of people from all quarters of the House, so that they can give their opinion, and then report back to the House, so that the House can discuss it as a House of Commons matter? There are few occasions, I suggest—and there ought, some people think, to be more—when the House of Commons can speak and vote as individuals and without the pressure of party politics playing upon it the whole time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1601.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1609.1", "colnum": "1609", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": " minutes to four on that day the Chamber suddenly became crowded with Members. I accept what the right hon. Gentleman says that there was no Whip on, and that it was a pure coincidence that so many Members came in at twenty minutes to four. The House may be interested to hear a newspaper report concerning that debate. I will read it because it is brief. It is from the Sunderland Echo of 6th March.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1609.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1609.1", "colnum": "1609", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "rning that debate. I will read it because it is brief. It is from the Sunderland Echo of 6th March. [ Laughter. ] I hope that the House will listen, because it is worth listening to. The Government's defeat in the 'No Hanging' Bill vote yesterday was the Conservatives' first major success in opposition, Mr. G. P. Davidson, prospective Conservative candidate for Sunderland, North said last night.\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1609.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1609.1", "colnum": "1609", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "vote yesterday was the Conservatives' first major success in opposition, Mr. G. P. Davidson, prospective Conservative candidate for Sunderland, North said last night.\"— [ Laughter. ] Listen. Mr. Davidson was deputising for Mr. R. W. Elliott, Conservative M.P. for Newcastle. North, who missed his plane from London because he was detained in the House of Commons by the three-line Whip for the vote\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1609.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1610.0", "colnum": "1610", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. W. Elliott", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. W. Elliott", "preceding_text": "I presume that the report from which the right hon. Gentleman has quoted arose from a message which I sent to Mr. G. P. Davidson on the afternoon of Friday, 5th March, when I apologised for being unable to reach the meeting in Sunderland because I wished to take part, on my own account—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1610.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1610.0", "colnum": "1610", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. W. Elliott", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. W. Elliott", "preceding_text": "I presume that the report from which the right hon. Gentleman has quoted arose from a message which I sent to Mr. G. P. Davidson on the afternoon of Friday, 5th March, when I apologised for being unable to reach the meeting in Sunderland because I wished to take part, on my own account—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—in a Division in the late afternoon. Could I say this to the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1610.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1611.1", "colnum": "1611", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "I am not sure what that does. I simply read the quotation from the paper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1611.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1611.2", "colnum": "1611", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "There is nothing to withdraw. So much for the three-line Whip. So much for the question of there being no Whip. Finally, may I remind the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1611.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1611.2", "colnum": "1611", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "d the House—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—that when I posed, in my opening speech, the question whether or not the real object here was to defeat the Bill or not, there were Opposition cheers. There is nothing wrong with this. If hon. Members want to defeat the Bill that way, then by all means let them do it. It is part of our procedure and it is a legitimate thing to do, but they should not pretend", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1611.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-18", "file": "debates1965-03-18a.xml", "sha256": "66b239082188b538", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1612.0", "colnum": "1612", "heading": "MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL (COMMITTEE STAGE)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The right hon. Gentleman will see.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "f 5th March, by bringing the Bill on to the Floor of the House. Neither the country nor the House will ever be convinced that the constitution of this country is severely shaken by Members of Parliament, for one Private Member's Bill, sitting for three hours on Wednesday mornings for something like five, six or seven mornings. I hope that, as there is no Whip on that side—and this should prove it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-18a.1612.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-19", "file": "debates1965-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "4fac163ada7beb91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-19a.1668.1", "colnum": "1668", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wainwright", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wainwright", "preceding_text": "at a person can be accepted for training for a mental health post without having the G.C.E. standard. This is the only section in the nursing profession, so I am informed, which can be so accepted for training. It is quite obvious, therefore, that the salaries paid to such people will be lower than those paid to ordinary nurses. Something should be done to ensure that these salaries are increased.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-19a.1668.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-19", "file": "debates1965-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "4fac163ada7beb91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-19a.1687.1", "colnum": "1687", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Lord Balniel", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Lord Balniel", "preceding_text": "senile persons. We have all seen wards where the beds are so crowded together that often there is not even room to place lockers between the beds, or where the beds overflow into the corridors of the hospital. In passing, I should like to take this opportunity of paying my own tribute to the dedicated work which is done by the staffs of these hospitals in really incredibly difficult circumstances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-19a.1687.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-19", "file": "debates1965-03-19a.xml", "sha256": "4fac163ada7beb91", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-19a.1729.1", "colnum": "1729", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ENGINEERING DESIGN (FEILDEN REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour (Mr. Richard Marsh)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\".", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour (Mr. Richard Marsh)", "preceding_text": "e richness of its pageantry and the charm of its traditions. But we must never fall into the trap of thinking that we can maintain and improve our standards of living on the proceeds of showing American tourists the Tower of London or selling picture postcards of Parliament to groups of Continental schoolchildren in Westminster Hall. During the coming years of Socialist rule—and they will be many—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-19a.1729.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.7.6", "colnum": "7", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "preceding_text": "Is it not clear that these additional benefits are depreciating—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.7.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.52.2", "colnum": "52", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": ", and which was mentioned in the Gracious Speech, in respect of rent control. We will discuss that Bill when we come to it and, no doubt, there will be plenty to discuss. I only say now that in the light of the words from the Report which I have just quoted, it would not be open to the Minister to find any justification for the imposition of rent control outside London on the basis of this Report.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.52.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.65.0", "colnum": "65", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "served in the Treasury breathes the word \"subsidy\" without a certain shudder, it may well be that if further restrictions are thought right to be imposed on landlords in London, and if the House accepts the Committee's view that it is only by keeping the private sector in operation that the problem will be solved, the least expensive course in the end may well be to consider some help in that way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.65.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.77.1", "colnum": "77", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"None.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "One other name I must mention—the late Michael Cliffe, a former colleague of ours. He was picked out by Sir Milner Holland as an understanding student of London. There is not an argument in the Report, there is not even a description of conditions, that is not outlined in sketch—sometimes in detail—in Opposition speeches between 1959 and 1964. What effect did those speeches have on the Government?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.77.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.81.3", "colnum": "81", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " with an Edwardian aunt in this suggestion that if those families in Willesden or Islington did not like the single furnished rooms in which they were huddled they should just go out and buy a house. What a relief we felt when the right hon. Gentleman was promoted—until we saw that he had even bigger and better opportunities to display his prim precise humanity in his new office as Home Secretary,", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.81.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.93.3", "colnum": "93", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brooke", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brooke", "preceding_text": "se post-war days the London housing situation has become far better, except for the classes that are identified in the Report—families with several children, households with small incomes, newcomers, and old people who can afford very little. Then there is the feckless minority whom it is nearly impossible for any of us to help. They make up, I am afraid, a big percentage of the homeless families.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.93.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.115.1", "colnum": "115", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. R. Strauss", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. R. Strauss", "preceding_text": "ld not pay it anyway, but I happened to know that the landlord had bought the house, shortly before, for £1,750. If he could not make his vast profits by raising the rents substantially, he hoped to do so by selling the house to the tenant at an extortionate profit. I was delighted to read in the Report a comment that immigration into London has not been a cause of overcrowding in the London area.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.115.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.154.3", "colnum": "154", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "I have only ten minutes and I cannot give way. Hon. Gentlemen may ask what are these powers which local authorities have had and which they have not used. I accuse the Labour Party in the Metropolitan boroughs and I accuse the Labour-controlled London County Council of slothfulness and unwillingness to deal with the housing problem in London over the years. I will tell hon. Gentlemen why I refer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.154.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.154.3", "colnum": "154", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "se powers in their hands, and so I say to the London County Council, which is the housing authority and the planning authority in London, that it has made no use of its power. Why has it not used its powers? One hon. Gentleman referred this afternoon to a particular development in his own constituency—I think it was to Camberwell—where a particular type of development was approved by the Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.154.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.155.1", "colnum": "155", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "reference was made to that particular scheme. It was approved for planning by London County Council, so the Socialist-controlled London County Council must have thought it was in the interests of the London County Council area, or why did the Council pass it? The trouble is that the Labour Party, which has controlled London for so many years, has failed dismally to deal with the affairs of London.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.155.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.155.1", "colnum": "155", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": " which has controlled London for so many years, has failed dismally to deal with the affairs of London. [ Interruption. ] Hon. Gentlemen opposite do not like this medicine which they are now having to receive. The Report also shows that by and large landlords behave properly, and we all regret the intolerable attitude and behaviour of a few. Happily, the majority of those bad ones are not British.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.155.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.155.1", "colnum": "155", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes it is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "thorities, in the main, can provide accommodation at better rents than the private landlord. Consider the advantages that a local authority has—an easier method of acquiring loans, the ability to borrow money for periods up to 60 years at better rates of interest, subsidies on its properties, authority—this is the important thing—to vary rents at will, something not permitted to private landlords—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.155.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.165.1", "colnum": "165", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And the aged.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "preceding_text": "ce still further the stock of furnished accommodation, above all, which is the only hope of new households and newcomers to London. That leads me to the second implication of security of tenure which I find the Milner Holland Committee, unlike all its other work, has not fully explored. As the Minister said, the bulk of the misery at the moment is concentrated on the young families with low wages—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.165.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.169.1", "colnum": "169", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government(Mr. Robert Mellish)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government(Mr. Robert Mellish)", "preceding_text": "and contentment to more people in London than the right hon. Gentleman ever did. He has done it by simply bringing in one Act which the party opposite could have brought in, because they knew the facts. The right hon. Gentleman asked for figures about local authority building and he said that it had been stepped up in the London region in the last three years. We had better get this on the record.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.169.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.169.3", "colnum": "169", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman is now asking for figures which I cannot give off the cuff.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.169.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.181.1", "colnum": "181", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. Gresham Cooke", "preceding_text": "Before the Minister sits down, he has criticised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.181.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.209.4", "colnum": "209", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir E. Fletcher", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir E. Fletcher", "preceding_text": " equipped, to the Bench. That situation cannot be brought about unless we have sub-paragraph (4) in the Clause. If another precedent were required for the seconding of a senior member of the judiciary to a purely executive function—which this is not—we would recall, and here I am relying on my memory, that Lord Reading, when Lord Chief Justice, was appointed His Majesty's Ambassador in Washington.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.209.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.223.2", "colnum": "223", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "that when he was a Law Officer he was not a Member of this House. Now he is in the House, he is no longer a Law Officer. He has only been a Member since the last election. I do not think that he fully appreciates that the great difference in respect of Scotland and England in this way is in the actual office of Secretary of State. I combine within my person about six or seven different Ministries.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.223.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.225.2", "colnum": "225", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "Indeed. One can also understand the belated interest of former Law Officers. The position is that many of the duties of the Lord High Chancellor of Scotland were, by the Act of 1885, by practice, usage and custom, continued within the transfer to the Secretary of State of the Great Seal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.225.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.234.0", "colnum": "234", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why not?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "I had no intention of pursuing that point any further but to come back to the actual words in line 29 which I have referred to on a number of occasions. The Clause as now drafted does appear to give an opportunity to any citizen, anyone in the United Kingdom, anyone at all, to send in a closely reasoned, or otherwise, suggestion for reform or improvement of the law.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.233.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.239.1", "colnum": "239", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "preceding_text": " first time for a long time, to address the Committee. Will the hon. Member consider several points which have not been emphasised during the discussion? First, has he considered the effect on Parliamentary Questions of making it a statutory obligation on the Commission to consider any proposals for the reform of the law which may be made to them by anyone in the world? There is no limit whatever.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.239.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.239.1", "colnum": "239", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "preceding_text": " which may be made or referred to them\". If that does not mean by anybody in the world, it should say so. There is no limit whatever to the statutory duty laid on the Commission. If the Bill is not amended as suggested it would be in order for an hon. Member to put a Question to the Minister without Portfolio or for a Member of another place to put a Question to the Lord Chancellor asking whether—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.239.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.239.1", "colnum": "239", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "preceding_text": "aying. I certainly have not done so, and perhaps I had better start the sentence again. If a proposal for law reform is sent to the Commission from anywhere, it will be in order for a Member of either House to put down a Question to the appropriate Member of the Government—to the hon. Gentleman as long as he is Minister Without Portfolio—asking whether the Commission have considered that proposal.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.239.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.243.5", "colnum": "243", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "preceding_text": "I was not attempting to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.243.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.253.1", "colnum": "253", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Mabon", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Mabon", "preceding_text": "No. I do not think so because the Bill is read as a whole one sees the Commission in the context of its responsibilities to the Lord Chancellor, the Secretary of State and the Lord Advocate. One sees that essentially its work is advisory in nature and that everything it does in relation to the Clause cannot be taken to be in any other way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.253.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.255.0", "colnum": "255", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Percival", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Tell us.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Percival", "preceding_text": "ords here to limit the duty of the Commission if it were asked for assistance in such drafting. A Government Department engaged in litigation, having instructed counsel and having acted in the courts directly, might welcome assistance in that litigation. There is nothing in the words of the paragraph to limit assistance so as to exclude that kind of assistance. One can think of many more examples.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.255.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.255.0", "colnum": "255", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Percival", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"This morning.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Percival", "preceding_text": "aph to limit assistance so as to exclude that kind of assistance. One can think of many more examples. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Tell us.\"] The hon. Gentleman should not invite me to take up too much time. if his inquiry is serious, I can give him a dozen examples in writing afterwards. There is another aspect of the matter which I ask the Government to consider and let us have their view on this evening.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.255.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.258.1", "colnum": "258", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. St. John-Stevas", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"So succinctly\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. St. John-Stevas", "preceding_text": "lay the House beyond anything but the minimum period, but I should like to associate myself, formally, with this Amendment and to say that I agree with my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Huntingdonshire (Sir D. Renton). This raises a point of major constitutional importance, and it would be useless for me to attempt to improve upon the argument which he has so brilliantly, so lucidly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.258.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-22", "file": "debates1965-03-22a.xml", "sha256": "fab8ad78a1c0c799", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.259.0", "colnum": "259", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES AND DEFENCE (CENTRAL) ESTIMATE, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "preceding_text": "ious point made about Standing Committees. There has been no reply as to how the Commission's advice is to be given to them. We were told in Committee that the position of the Law Officers would not be affected but now it seems there is to be duplication of their work. No reason has been given for that. The same can be said about the work of the Select Committees, which are already so well served.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-22a.259.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.307.5", "colnum": "307", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — LOCAL GOVERNMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "I can quite appreciate hon. Members who represent these areas feeling that this is a grievance. On the other hand, we do not want to burden ourselves with unnecessary legislation unless it is absolutely necessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.307.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.317.6", "colnum": "317", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I should have expected hon. Members to do better than think up these laborious supplementary questions three or four weeks after tabling the Question. My noble Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.317.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.318.4", "colnum": "318", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gower", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gower", "preceding_text": "Is it not clear that the electors in many parts of Wales were persuaded to vote for the Labour Party —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.318.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.327.1", "colnum": "327", "heading": "VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mendelson", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mendelson", "preceding_text": "ng to create a basis for negotiations, has it not now become clear, in the light of recent diplomatic discussions in London and elsewhere, that it is a positive hindrance to our efforts that we should be so completely identified with all the military actions and statements made by the United States in recent weeks? Would it not now be helpful to my right hon. Friend\"s efforts, which we all support", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.327.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.400.5", "colnum": "400", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "gest nation, with a population of 700 million, the rate is feared to be even higher, although we have no idea as to the actual figure. That is the immense pressure of population facing the world. The United Nations fears that at the end of the century there could well be 10,000 million people on this earth. Under the old regulations, a fair proportion of those would be allowed to come here freely.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.400.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.400.5", "colnum": "400", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "han 6,000 million, food production would have to be increased five-fold to provide a reasonable standard of living, but in the last few years world food production has fallen and not increased. One day, in the lifetime of our grandchildren, the problem will be whether there is enough to eat and whether there is enough room, and yet we are unnecessarily bringing this acute problem into our country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.400.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.401.0", "colnum": "401", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "We are laughing at the hon. Gentleman.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "ave to be increased five-fold to provide a reasonable standard of living, but in the last few years world food production has fallen and not increased. One day, in the lifetime of our grandchildren, the problem will be whether there is enough to eat and whether there is enough room, and yet we are unnecessarily bringing this acute problem into our country. [ Laughter. ] This is no laughing matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.400.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.401.1", "colnum": "401", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "jected that we could not manage without immigrant labour. Let us face that issue. During the war, this country had nearly 6 million men and women in uniform, fighting. We were also the arsenal of the Western world making armaments for all the free countries. Our hospitals were filled with men who had been wounded in the fighting. And yet we managed without immigrant labour. Why? Because we worked.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.401.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.402.1", "colnum": "402", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Appalling.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "e jobs for us? Is there to be an endless stream? A nation which will not provide its own services in a Welfare State. Yesterday, the House discussed the country\"s terrible housing problem, which is a disgrace to all of us, on whichever side of the House we sit. But it is undeniable that a million immigrants have made that housing problem worse, and if we bring in more it will make it even more so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.402.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.433.1", "colnum": "433", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir George Sinclair", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir George Sinclair", "preceding_text": "come this debate, because I believe that it will make a contribution to stopping extremism and avoiding those tensions being allowed to develop. Many of us, having read recent news from the United States, would, I believe, wish to pay a real, deep tribute to President Kennedy and now to President Johnson for their imagination and courage in dealing with their own difficult problem of civil rights.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.433.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.433.1", "colnum": "433", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir George Sinclair", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir George Sinclair", "preceding_text": "le surpluses of underemployed manpower. There will, I think, be no dispute that for the health of both sectors of industry, and for our capacity to compete successfully, both in home and in overseas markets, we need to strip for action, if we are to survive. This is the opportunity, when new equipment is becoming available, to set more manpower free. Now is the opportunity to retrain and redeploy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.433.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.433.1", "colnum": "433", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir George Sinclair", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir George Sinclair", "preceding_text": "train and redeploy. [ Interruption. ] I have said that this is an arguable case. I am making the case on the one side. No doubt if the Home Secretary does not believe in this case he will meet it when he winds up the debate. I believe that we can no longer afford the easy short-term solution of importing additional manpower, which often has the effect of slowing down the healthy process of change.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.433.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-23", "file": "debates1965-03-23a.xml", "sha256": "2d423e6e736ef5e8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.450.0", "colnum": "450", "heading": "Orders of the Day — IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "ssion of the male immigrant worker. In those circumstances, surely the right hon. and learned Gentleman must ponder very carefully on any case where he gives new authority for more male immigrant workers. He may make out a case for 14,000. He may say that that is a very small number, but if one takes 14,000 plus another 5,000 evasions, with their relatives, it mounts very quickly to 60,000 a year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-23a.450.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.508.1", "colnum": "508", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "ptional group of them in a moment- makes a very good prisoner, not a violent prisoner, not a difficult prisoner and not a prisoner who is difficult to handle. I am not now offering only a personal opinion, although I perhaps share it. I draw the attention of hon. Members who are dealing with the argument seriously and are not merely indulging in pathological emotion in favour of the death penalty—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.508.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.514.0", "colnum": "514", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": "from the Floor of this Chamber, and it is very significant to look around. I saw the Leader of the House and the Patronage Secretary look in—they must have been ashamed of the fact that there are, probably, three times as many hon. Members on this side of the Committee as on that. After all the hullabaloo a week or two ago, one would have thought that the Government benches would have been filled—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.514.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.533.2", "colnum": "533", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "tood the hon. Member for the Isle of Thanet (Mr. Rees-Davies) to say that he would be perfectly happy if the two Amendments were discussed together. In that case, Amendments Nos.2 and 3 would be discussed with Amendment No.7, in page 1, line 5, after \"murder\", insert: except for any murder of a police officer acting in the execution of his duty or of a person assisting a police officer so acting\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.533.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.540.3", "colnum": "540", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — CHANCELLOR OF THE DUCHY OF LANCASTER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "That was answered with Question No.4.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.540.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.549.6", "colnum": "549", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend will be aware that the International Agreements of Cereals were concluded with our main suppliers—Australia, Argentina, the United States and Canada—and were partly the responsibility of my predecessor.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.549.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.549.6", "colnum": "549", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Address the Chair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend will be aware that the International Agreements of Cereals were concluded with our main suppliers—Australia, Argentina, the United States and Canada—and were partly the responsibility of my predecessor. [ Interruption. ] Of course they were. I was addressing the questioner.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.549.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.559.2", "colnum": "559", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes it is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "This is not so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.559.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.562.5", "colnum": "562", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman should know that I have always been a greater defender of the 1947 and 1957 Acts in principle, and the Labour Party defends the principle.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.562.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.566.4", "colnum": "566", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "to ask supplementaries. You, in proposing to deal with this abuse, said that you would hesitate to call hon. Members for supplementary questions where a Question was later than No.50, and No.10 in the case of Questions to the Prime Minister. I have, of course, no objection to that, except to say that this was dealing with one abuse which originated from the original abuse by hon. Members opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.566.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.566.5", "colnum": "566", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "The effect of the Ruling would seem to many of my hon. Friends to penalise hon. Members on this side of the House rather more than hon. Members opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.566.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.566.6", "colnum": "566", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "So what?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "The effect of the Ruling would seem to many of my hon. Friends to penalise hon. Members on this side of the House rather more than hon. Members opposite—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Why.\"] Precisely because the Order Paper has been abused by hon. Members opposite. To give an example: on 4th May—that is, about six weeks hence—there are already no fewer than 29 Questions down to the Chancellor of the Exchequer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.566.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.566.7", "colnum": "566", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBER: \"What is the point?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Of course, that is perfectly in order. I understand that. It is, however, also in order for us to tack Questions on to them since we cannot any longer put our own Questions down —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.566.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.567.1", "colnum": "567", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": " prolonged discussion about Question procedure now, or we would be trespassing on the business of the House. I would be grateful if the House would allow me a little time in which to explain how, it seems to me, as a servant of the House, I am trying to wrestle with our Question difficulties until such time as I can get guidance through the Select Committee. This is, indeed, a very serious matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.567.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.567.3", "colnum": "567", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I beg hon. Members to hear me in silence. It is a serious matter for this reason. If a war were to arise between parties to pre-empt the Order Paper it would be easy enough utterly to defeat our processes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.567.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.567.4", "colnum": "567", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": " 24, and Labour, 448. In 1964, when we reversed the seating, the figures were Conservative, 143; Liberal, 11, and Labour, 261. If the House will do the sum it will see that it means that the proportion of total Questions down for Answer on future days in the names of hon. Members of the principal Opposition party last year was 63 per cent. and that this year the relevant proportion is 59 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.567.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.571.5", "colnum": "571", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "He did not.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I do not know in the least. I think that the right hon. Gentleman raised a point of order—it is the only context in which he could have arisen—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.571.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.591.1", "colnum": "591", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Mr. Speaker decides whether it is prima facie. \"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": "of the Front Bench, a complaint of a character which I would have thought on any grounds and on any estimation was more serious than the complaint against my hon. Friend the Member for Colne Valley. Do not let us have one complaint accepted and the other thrown out. That would be most unfair. That would be merely applying selective discrimination which would be a greater interference with freedom.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.591.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.593.1", "colnum": "593", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": ". If we are to apply a new rule in this matter, we cannot do it selectively; we must do it all round. If we had a system under which every hon. Member, whenever he travelled abroad, had to make it clear and public who was paying his expenses, it might be a very interesting innovation. I am not sure whether hon. Members opposite would be as eager that that should happen as we on this side would be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.593.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.597.1", "colnum": "597", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "en decided that he should come to the House of Commons and ask whether the matter should be referred to the Committee of Privileges. I say this in response and in reply to the right hon. and learned Member for Wirral, who said that my hon. Friend had other remedies. My hon. Friend sought to use the other remedies to issue a reply, but he did not succeed in getting anything published on that basis.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.597.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.599.0", "colnum": "599", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "That is the kind of smear we are trying to deal with in this debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.599.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.599.1", "colnum": "599", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "May I elucidate the facts on this one point? The interview with me which appeared in the Daily Worker was totally different from the statement to which my hon. Friend the Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Michael Foot) has referred.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.599.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.601.1", "colnum": "601", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "I must correct—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.601.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.601.1", "colnum": "601", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Apologise.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "I must correct—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—what I said in one minor and quite subordinate aspect. It is true that the right hon. and learned Gentleman did not get to the Committee of Privileges, because it did not want to hear him, but it did accept—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.601.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.602.3", "colnum": "602", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "There is nothing to withdraw at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.602.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.615.1", "colnum": "615", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": " and some of the hon. Members who went afterwards took part in our debates on Central Africa. I would agree that any Member who accepts the hospitality of a foreign government or a foreign political organisation may find himself in a position of some delicacy, because he may find it necessary thereafter to disappoint his hosts by taking a line in public controversy of which they would not approve.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.615.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.631.0", "colnum": "631", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and learned Gentleman, although he began with great sincerity and with the obvious intention of being fair—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.631.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.631.0", "colnum": "631", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and learned Gentleman, although he began with great sincerity and with the obvious intention of being fair—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—is now including in his speech matter which really confirms one of the reasons why I brought this matter before the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.631.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-24", "file": "debates1965-03-24a.xml", "sha256": "e0fea43b3e59421d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.632.1", "colnum": "632", "heading": "PRIVILEGE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": " precisely our complaint and precisely the reason why we regard it as essential that this whole matter should be investigated by the Committee of Privileges, with all the evidence on one side and the other which can only be properly considered by that Committee and the Committee, having examined the evidence and heard the various persons in their own defence, should make their report to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-24a.632.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.721.2", "colnum": "721", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Jockeys?", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Joan Vickers", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. Gentleman aware that that is a very disappointing reply, especially since we have just been told by his right hon. and learned Friend that this is the greatest democracy in the world? I understood that the present Government were against discrimination of any kind. If so, how do they justify that women can be racehorse owners, can lead in winning racehorses, and can—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.721.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.725.5", "colnum": "725", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is he?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Question No. 17—Mr. Thorpe.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.725.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.733.2", "colnum": "733", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"Munich.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "Will the Prime Minister remember that it was I who signed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.733.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.733.2", "colnum": "733", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Munich.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "Will the Prime Minister remember that it was I who signed—[Hon. MEMBERS: \"Munich.\"]—and led a British delegation at the successful conclusion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.733.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.733.3", "colnum": "733", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "\"Munich.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "Will the Prime Minister remember that it was I who signed—[Hon. MEMBERS: \"Munich.\"]—and led a British delegation at the successful conclusion—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Munich.\"]—of the Laos negotiations?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.733.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.736.0", "colnum": "736", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "t out of control so that events are in charge of policies instead of the other way round? Would not the Prime Minister agree that it is important at this stage that we should inject a new element into this situation? Would not he agree that the French suggestion, which I understand has been made, that the eventual political basis for negotiation might be the unification of North and South Vietnam—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.735.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.887.1", "colnum": "887", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COMMONWEALTH COURT OF APPEAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": "tration of the Government which is under consideration, I shall address my remarks to him. We on this side of the House are told that the House of Commons is about to witness an event which has never taken place before, that is to say, a deliberate filibuster by the back benchers under the command of the Paymaster-General from behind, like the Duke of Plaza Toro—he finds it more exciting that way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.887.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.889.7", "colnum": "889", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COMMONWEALTH COURT OF APPEAL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "Not being a lawyer, I intervene in this debate with some trepidation. I apologise for not being present for the whole of it, but I had other engagements. I congratulate my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Billericay (Mr. Gardner) on raising this subject. I believe that this is a matter of—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.889.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.889.7", "colnum": "889", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COMMONWEALTH COURT OF APPEAL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "re brought to too low a level we would produce a greater degree of delay than exists at the moment. One-and-a-half years ago I went to Mauritius and the Seychelles. I was disappointed at not being called in the debate we had on these matters not long ago, because I wanted to deal with the problem of Mauritius and the Seychelles. I am one of probably only three hon. Members who know where they are.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.889.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.894.3", "colnum": "894", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is he?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Blenkinsop", "preceding_text": "ot appear to be in his place, as one understood that he was going to raise the subject on which I wish to make some comment, that of the general question of town and country planning and its relationship to local government. I think it is somewhat discourteous to the House after the matter had been noticed, and notice given to the House, that the hon. Member should not in fact now be in his place.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.894.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.910.3", "colnum": "910", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bishop", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bishop", "preceding_text": "I am obliged, Mr. Speaker. I deplore the way in which the hon. Member opposite is bringing politics into this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.910.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.930.1", "colnum": "930", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Perry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Do you?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Perry", "preceding_text": "e development. Priority must be given to local government housing. I appreciate that my right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government will do all he can to see that the local authorities are given priority to develop sites they own. This problem is so serious it must not be scoffed, jeered or laughed at. I do not doubt that hon. Members opposite do not live four or five in a room.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.930.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.936.1", "colnum": "936", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government(Mr. Richard Crossman)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The right hon. Gentleman has plenty of time.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government(Mr. Richard Crossman)", "preceding_text": "I will try in the short time at my disposal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.936.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.975.1", "colnum": "975", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CONSUMER PROTECTION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "In the tea bar.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "I am feeling hungry now. Where can I get some Dunkin Donuts?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.975.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.990.1", "colnum": "990", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CONSUMER PROTECTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rose", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rose", "preceding_text": "t said, several non-Governmental bodies which are concerned with consumer protection and which the housewives can approach if necessary. I would mention in particular, as I mentioned it before in an intervention, the work of the Co-operative movement, because unlike other retailers this organisation is, of course, an organisation of consumers and is particularly concerned with consumer protection.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.990.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1032.1", "colnum": "1032", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CONSUMER PROTECTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Atkinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Friend?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Atkinson", "preceding_text": "I thank my hon. Friend for making this comment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1032.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1060.2", "colnum": "1060", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. H. Hynd", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. H. Hynd", "preceding_text": "been five different increases following the Pensions (Increase) Acts. Those Acts give supplements to pensions of civil servants, local government officers, teachers, members of the police and the fire brigade, and all sorts of public servants, including even people like the staff of the Raw Cotton Commission. Unfortunately, the railway salaried staff have been considered not to be public servants.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1060.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1079.1", "colnum": "1079", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "preceding_text": "stand Parliament. If the hon. Member who several days ago asked my Department to inquire into this very important issue of deep water berths did not understand that this subject could not be raised until late, but several hours before midnight said it was not convenient and he had to go home, then he has a great deal to learn about the ways of Parliament and our procedure. I say no more than that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1079.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1090.1", "colnum": "1090", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"You.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "isappointment and disillusion. What I want to see in Northern Ireland is a prosperous permanent industry which will absorb labour not only from Northern Ireland, but from the other Ireland. When I discovered that it was the defence of Northern Ireland that we were to discuss this morning, I thought in terms of the wider strategic implications. Who does Northern Ireland want to be defended against?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1090.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1095.5", "colnum": "1095", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "In that case, I have merely carried the argument to its logical conclusion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1095.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1096.1", "colnum": "1096", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Or Vietnam.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "s. If the hon. Gentleman had argued for helicopters, I could have understood it, because I am sure that I carry the hon. Member for Macclesfield (Sir A. V. Harvey) with me when I say that there is a future for helicopters as civilian aircraft and in the export markets. If the hon. Gentleman had argued that Belfast could manufacture helicopters for export to the Chinese, I could have understood it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1096.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1098.3", "colnum": "1098", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "me constructive suggestions. I know all the arguments which will be produced by Northern Ireland Members. What about Shorts'? What about Harland and Wolff? We are familiar with them all. If they want to impress the Treasury, they should say, \"We do not want any more naval contracts. We do not want any more air contracts. We want subsidies for developing a really constructive industry in Scotland\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1098.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1100.3", "colnum": "1100", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Carry on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "preceding_text": "hort Brothers and Harland, bringing in the electronic machine tool industry, I ask the Government to look again at the suggestions concerning our aircraft requirements and see that we do not sell out our aircraft industry entirely to the United States. We need immediate defence orders to replace the work which was lost on the HS681. I regret that I cannot develop these arguments at greater length—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1100.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1102.0", "colnum": "1102", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hector Hughes", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hector Hughes", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Did you not rule a few moments ago, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, that it was out of order for an hon. Member to read a newspaper in the Chamber—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1102.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1103.3", "colnum": "1103", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "The Paymaster-General (Mr. George Wigg)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Paymaster-General (Mr. George Wigg)", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Though the hon. Gentleman's eyes may be blinded, is it not possible—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1103.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1105.5", "colnum": "1105", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "For sheer, unadulterated impudence the speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1105.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1105.5", "colnum": "1105", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "For sheer, unadulterated impudence the speech—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] For sheer brass and impudence the speech of the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for Wirral (Mr. Selwyn Lloyd) takes the biscuit. He has the brazen impertinence to come to this House and quote from the front page of the Daily Express —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1105.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1106.0", "colnum": "1106", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Free speech?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and learned Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1106.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1106.1", "colnum": "1106", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and learned Gentleman—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Free speech?\"]—The right hon. and learned Member for Wirral then comes down and quotes from the Daily Express as obiter dicta. I will give way in a moment, but the right hon. and learned Gentleman has to learn something. He may just as well learn it from me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1106.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1107.7", "colnum": "1107", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1107.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1108.6", "colnum": "1108", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": " debate. The hon. Member for Belfast, West said that he came here at one o'clock, which is very much more than the majority of hon. Members opposite did, in order to take part in a debate. That debate was going on quite smoothly until the hon. Member for Londonderry (Mr. Chichester-Clark) went round the benches and spoke to his hon. Friends and urged them not to speak, or to curtail their remarks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1108.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1109.5", "colnum": "1109", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Abuse.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "In a moment. They hunt the fox and they use the rules of order. They think that they can do what they like, but when some of my hon. Friends, a bit more studious and a bit more competent, use the procedures of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1109.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1110.1", "colnum": "1110", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I paid a tribute to the right hon. and learned Gentleman and I meant every word of it. By comparison with the rest—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1110.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1117.4", "colnum": "1117", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "s his hon. Friend the Member for Reading. All they want to do is to use private Members' time for party political purposes, and they have been put down, not by hon. Gentlemen on this side of the House, but by their own hon. Friends. That is the standard of confidence which one gets from the Tory Front Bench. The Chief Patronage Secretary—we all know him, a kindly fellow, but a natural incompetent—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1117.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1118.0", "colnum": "1118", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He has been here all night.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I shall not give way to the hon. Member for Yarmouth. He has had one turn.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1118.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1118.0", "colnum": "1118", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I shall not give way to the hon. Member for Yarmouth. He has had one turn. [HON. MEMBERS: \"He has been here all night.\"] He shall have his turn. Hon. Gentlemen opposite must realise that their hon. Friends have put down no less than 10 subjects. What about those of my hon. Friends who have been here all night—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1118.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1122.2", "colnum": "1122", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": "ted out that Private Members' time could be fully satisfied in respect of both sets of business if the Leader of the House would only agree to sit on Monday night as well as last night. I say this only to assist the Paymaster-General. He began my saying that I had made a histrionic gesture last night. I walked out of the House because I did not like the degradation of Parliament by the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1122.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1123.8", "colnum": "1123", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Warbey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Warbey", "preceding_text": "As this is a debate about private Members' rights, it would be appropriate if at least one or two private Members had the opportunity of saying why we think this debate should be continued and not adjourned. I happen to be one of those Members on the back benches—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1123.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1128.0", "colnum": "1128", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and learned Member for St. Marylebone (Mr. Hogg) was wrong again. It is perfectly true that his right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Wirral (Mr. Selwyn Lloyd), who has now disappeared—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1128.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1132.0", "colnum": "1132", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Butcher", "preceding_text": "Party. Some of us have been in the House for a long time. The Labour Party has provided as Leaders of the House Sir Stafford Cripps, Lord Chuter-Ede, and our good friend the late Lord Morrison of Lambeth. However, I am bound to say to the right hon. Gentleman that at so early a stage, when he was close enough to the precincts of the House to allow a reply on a matter of this importance to be made—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1131.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1133.2", "colnum": "1133", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. T. Paget", "preceding_text": " say will be very short indeed. This House is controlled by the Government which plays its part only so long as the rights of the Opposition and back-bench Members are regarded. I do not think that happened last night. I should have voted against the hon. Member's Bill and I have written to a large number of my constituents to tell them. But I protest at the manner in which lie has been prevented—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1133.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1148.1", "colnum": "1148", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Pensions and National Insurance (Miss Margaret Herbison)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Pensions and National Insurance (Miss Margaret Herbison)", "preceding_text": "I am very pleased indeed that the hon. Member for Abingdon (Mr. Neave) has been able to make his case for these old people today. Some of these 250,000 old people and a great many other old people deserve the consideration of the House and although I understand, and know, that this is a short debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1148.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1151.2", "colnum": "1151", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "No. I cannot give way at this stage.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1151.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1152.2", "colnum": "1152", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Three times.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. The right hon. Lady has refused to give way now twice—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1152.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1152.2", "colnum": "1152", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. The right hon. Lady has refused to give way now twice—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Three times.\"] Three times she has refused to give way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1152.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1152.8", "colnum": "1152", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walter Monslow", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walter Monslow", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member opposite is not generally here on a Friday—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1152.8"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1155.5", "colnum": "1155", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "I am sorry that there is all this noise in the debate, but it is evident, and I hope that the country will note it—[ Interruption. ]—that this noise", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1155.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1156.5", "colnum": "1156", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Herbison", "preceding_text": "Perhaps in a minute or two. We, on the other hand, have a clear policy for the old people in our incomes guarantee. We are working very busily on it at the present time. We regard this as a very urgent matter, and it will be introduced as quickly as possible. Hon. Members opposite should look at our election manifesto.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1156.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-25", "file": "debates1965-03-25a.xml", "sha256": "74561f86bc447c22", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1170.1", "colnum": "1170", "heading": "RAILWAY SUPERANNUITANTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where was the hon. Member?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "preceding_text": "d, all the great occasions that come up on the Consolidated Fund Bill, and when Ministers speak for over three and a half hours in private Members' time, and then go on to move the Closure. This is the sort of thing that the country should know about, because it brings down the reputation of the House. We want to ensure that this sort of behaviour on the part of the Government is fully understood.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-25a.1170.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1176.3", "colnum": "1176", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Lord Balniel", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Lord Balniel", "preceding_text": "This question deals with the co-ordination of the care of the elderly. Will the Minister take this opportunity to express his repugnance at the co-ordinated activities of hon. Gentlemen last week in deliberating filibustering—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1176.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1180.4", "colnum": "1180", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Rubbish.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Wyndham Davies", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that in yesterday\"s Sunday Express a general practitioner in Chatham said that he gave out 255 prescriptions instead of the normal 60 on the first day of the removal of the charge and that he and many other doctors reckon that they are now being blackmailed by their patients?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1180.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1206.5", "colnum": "1206", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 13.—(TRANSFER TO AND FROM OTHER PENSION SCHEMES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "preceding_text": "If I may have the leave of the House briefly to say——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1206.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1206.7", "colnum": "1206", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 13.—(TRANSFER TO AND FROM OTHER PENSION SCHEMES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Shame.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I heard leave being declined.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1206.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1207.3", "colnum": "1207", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Mr. Douglas Jay)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are the Liberals?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Mr. Douglas Jay)", "preceding_text": "of that private sector. The Bill is conceived in the belief, which I think is common to all parties, that neither monopolies nor mergers are always bad. Sometimes they are and sometimes they are not. This truth was admirably expressed in that classical document, which wears well with time, the White Paper on Employment Policy, of May, 1944—a bipartisan, perhaps I should say a tripartisan document—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1207.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1207.3", "colnum": "1207", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Mr. Douglas Jay)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Mr. Douglas Jay)", "preceding_text": "gness of the Commission to incur charges of unfairness by hustling firms too insistently. Therefore, if we are to get on quickly, larger numbers and simultaneous inquiries seem much the best solution. But I should like to emphasise the value which we attach to the services of busy people in business and the professions who devote their time to this public work and to express our gratitude to them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1207.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1224.0", "colnum": "1224", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And still is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "se sentiments: Where major changes of ownership and control in a vital industry are threatened by takeover bid or merger, the State must be free to intervene, either by vetoing a proposed transaction or by stepping in itself and asserting the rights of the community through an extension of public ownership.\"? That was the policy of the Labour Government not long ago in \"Signposts for the Sixties\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1224.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1241.1", "colnum": "1241", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir John Vaughan-Morgan", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER:\"Whisky?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir John Vaughan-Morgan", "preceding_text": "s intentions are, whether this survey is taking place, when the Report is likely to be issued and whether we are to have legislation later, This has now become important, now that the Resale Prices Act is beginning to bite and become effective. So far as I can see, the only noticeable improvement is that I find my razor blades are considerably cheaper, but I am waiting for future benefits to come.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1241.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1259.3", "colnum": "1259", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Price", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": " Scotland. That concern had a great capital development programme which it was unable to finance from the market. I should be the last person to raise these polemical issues if they had not been raised from the benches opposite. I want to be fair about them and to face up to them. When we speak polemically or in a doctrinaire fashion—I am the least doctrinaire Member of this House, or one of them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1259.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-29", "file": "debates1965-03-29a.xml", "sha256": "9141eb791231fbd4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1323.0", "colnum": "1323", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Darling", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A stooge.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Darling", "preceding_text": " industry, because of the need for size and specialisation and so on, they would do to deal with the monopoly situation which arose out of that need. I am still waiting for a reply. The right hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale said that he raised this issue of steel at the General Election. So did I, at every meeting, and I made sure that there was a steel worker in the audience to ask questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-29a.1323.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1399.2", "colnum": "1399", "heading": "H.R.H. THE PRINCESS ROYAL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "so to mention her special associations with Yorkshire. She took an active part in the life of the county and it gave great pleasure when, in 1951, she was installed as Chancellor of Leeds University, having nearly 20 years previously received the freedom of that city. The House will wish to take this opportunity of expressing their deep sympathy with her children, Lord Hare-wood and Mr. Lascelles.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1399.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1440.1", "colnum": "1440", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "preceding_text": "That may be true.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1440.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1442.0", "colnum": "1442", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "preceding_text": "If that were the rule, we should be in a much happier position—if political parties did not take these views. In fact, every political party and every political Minister from time to time does not lose account of the political consequences of the action which he is about to take.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1442.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1442.0", "colnum": "1442", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "preceding_text": "If that were the rule, we should be in a much happier position—if political parties did not take these views. In fact, every political party and every political Minister from time to time does not lose account of the political consequences of the action which he is about to take. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"] This is one of those things. I think Ministers on both sides—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1442.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1474.1", "colnum": "1474", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "than that. It would be out of order to pursue that matter. That was the state of affairs. On that occasion, the then Opposition sought to call a snap Division by making brief speeches and trying to get the Division to take place much earlier than the Government of that time expected. Some of us had to provoke an argument over quite a long time to make sure that there was a representative decision.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1474.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1501.1", "colnum": "1501", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Rankin", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is worth it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Rankin", "preceding_text": "ll the 13 years of misery under the Tory Government, revealing to the great wide world, which depends on the words I put on that piece of notepaper, the sins committed by the party opposite. I have paid 6s. every Monday night for this postal letter. Of course, it goes into my expenses and I get it back. Now, however, I discover that, after 17th May, I shall have to pay £1. I do not mind paying £1.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1501.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1506.1", "colnum": "1506", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheer up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "e of an ordinary letter is to go up from 3d. to 4d. in the New Year. On January 1st the Daily Mail said: The Government is having second thoughts about increasing postal charges. What has been happening in all these months until we had last week's announcement? Talking of playing politics, was it pure coincidence that we got this statement, at last, the day after two by-elections had been fought.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1506.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1506.1", "colnum": "1506", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Roxburgh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "Dr. Jekyll first and a bit of Mr. Hyde later—this sunny optimism of the right hon. Gentleman when he has actually quoted twice to this House the fact that 64 per cent. of the people last year would have welcomed postal increases provided that some part went towards making advances in the postmen's pay. I wonder whether he has any more up-to-date public opinion polls on the effect of these charges—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1506.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1506.1", "colnum": "1506", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "BERS: \"Roxburgh.\"] Maybe we did not do so good, but it was hardly a vote of confidence in the Labour Party. The Government will be going into the Lobby tonight in support of all their pledges of the General Election that they would keep steady the cost of living, and they will do this, in part, by putting 33⅓ per cent. on the cost of the letter. They will then be able to put a coping stone—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1506.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1506.1", "colnum": "1506", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": " all their pledges of the General Election that they would keep steady the cost of living, and they will do this, in part, by putting 33⅓ per cent. on the cost of the letter. They will then be able to put a coping stone—[ Interruption. ]—it was a greater achievement last week, I dare say, to talk all through the night in order to prevent a Private Member's Bill being discussed the next day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1506.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1516.1", "colnum": "1516", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "l now with some of the figures out of the five-year period. The previous Government's White Paper, Cmnd. 2302, which the right hon. Gentleman quoted, gave for 1963–64, which is the first year of the five-year period, a minus return on net assets of 10 per cent., instead of a positive 8 per cent. I realise that there is the question of two parts to the Post Office. I will come to that later.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1516.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1520.2", "colnum": "1520", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stratton Mills", "preceding_text": "Mr. Stratton Mills rose ——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1520.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1521.0", "colnum": "1521", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about industry?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "ed Friend the Member for Epsom had mentioned as a burden on the old and the widows or something of that sort in his opening speech. The right hon. Gentleman did the heart-searching stuff as well. It would cost every housewife an additional 1d. on the total of her housekeeping bill for a week. That is the amount that is in question to carry out a policy which is common policy between the two sides.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1520.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1521.3", "colnum": "1521", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "e most anxious that these modern services should be provided and that manufacturers everywhere should be encouraged to modernise their plant and their attitudes. We shall do everything in our power to make these Services available to them. My hon. Friend asked also whether we would provide more telephone kiosks for new estates. I cannot give him such a clear, affirmative in reply to this question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1521.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1521.3", "colnum": "1521", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "tion to what other countries do. The hon. Member for Croydon, South (Sir R. Thompson) asked whether the McKinsey report would be published. The answer it, not as at present advised. The report will be a management report. It will be a tool to enable management to improve its own situation, and one hopes that the consultants will be as free as possible to be as forthright as can be in their report.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1521.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1524.4", "colnum": "1524", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman has not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1524.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1524.4", "colnum": "1524", "heading": "POSTAL SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman has not—[ Interruption. ] On a point of order, Mr. Speaker.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1524.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1537.2", "colnum": "1537", "heading": "NORTHAMPTON (LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREAS)", "cue_speaker": "Sir John Hobson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir John Hobson", "preceding_text": "ity it makes a great deal of difference, because it means that there can be no change in the political complexion of the borough council unless there are two Labour casual vacancies more than Conservative casual vacancies. If there were, for instance, one Conservative casual vacancy and one Labour casual vacancy and neither were filled the complexion of the council would remain precisely the same.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1537.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1552.3", "colnum": "1552", "heading": "NORTHAMPTON (LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREAS)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Richard Crossman)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Richard Crossman)", "preceding_text": "e hon. Member for Northants, South (Mr. Arthur Jones). It was he who talked of the things which really matter. He asked if the boundary extension was right or whether it was not. This was said to be a scandal; an outrage; and he expressed a feeling for Duston village—a feeling which I think hon. Members for county areas always feel when some sort of urban penetration takes place from time to time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1552.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-30", "file": "debates1965-03-30a.xml", "sha256": "1bd0d70690d9696c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1557.1", "colnum": "1557", "heading": "NORTHAMPTON (LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREAS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "It would have been mutually agreeable here if the dust had not been stirred up on the Floor of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-30a.1557.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1592.2", "colnum": "1592", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "preceding_text": "nce of the death penalty prevents murders and has, in the past, prevented them from being committed, one cannot arrive at an answer either by looking at the details of the murders which have been committed, or the types of people who have committed them, because it is those who have not committed them whom we must consider. The hon. Member said, thirdly, that most murderers were of good character.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1592.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1625.2", "colnum": "1625", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Member puts a supplementary question that has nothing to do with the original Question, Mr. Speaker, certainly he must take that type of answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1625.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1632.8", "colnum": "1632", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is not\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "I gave the hon. Gentleman information, and I stand by it. This process had gone on for a very long period. We are giving an award to the producers which is a £11 million-plus award.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1632.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1639.1", "colnum": "1639", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mackie", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mackie", "preceding_text": "With regard to the first point in the hon. Member's very long supplementary question, the Minister is certainly not sliding out of his responsibility. He is acting under the advice of the Advisory Committee on this subject and the National Farmers' Union put forward certain suggestions which have been considered—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1639.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1640.3", "colnum": "1640", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "You have somebody else to produce them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1640.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1640.4", "colnum": "1640", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Windy.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "You have somebody else to produce them—[ Interruption. ]—Mr. Speaker, if I could be protected from hon. Members, I should be grateful.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1640.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1641.1", "colnum": "1641", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "I was only saying—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1641.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1642.0", "colnum": "1642", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mills", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mills", "preceding_text": "Will the Minister bear in mind that the pig industry is not profitable at the moment?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1642.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1642.8", "colnum": "1642", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Mackie", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Mackie", "preceding_text": "ultural Advisory Service by some 50 posts primarily to give greater emphasis to the farm business management approach to advisory work. My right hon. Friend also proposes gradually to extend the veterinary investigation service by setting up six more veterinary investigation centres and enlarging eight existing centres to serve as focal points for veterinary investigation services in each region.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1642.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1646.0", "colnum": "1646", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that the consumer and taxpayer is getting thoroughly fed up with the way in which, year by year, hundreds of millions of pounds are poured into this allegedly private enterprise industry without anybody knowing just where it is going?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1646.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1654.6", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "RAILWAY CLOSURES AND NATIONALISED INDUSTRIES' MANUFACTURING RESOURCES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "I have no reason to believe that the Railways Board ever supplies information that is not, to the best of its knowledge, factual.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1654.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1659.12", "colnum": "1659", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir Martin Redmayne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Martin Redmayne", "preceding_text": "\"electioneering\". This has been said repeatedly by the Minister since he made his Statement, but it was, in fact, the proper culmination of a long struggle by my right hon. Friend the Member for Bedford (Mr. Soames) and his predecessors right back to Lord Williams of Barnburgh and Lord Hudson, who laid the foundation of post-war agricultural planning, which was taken over by the Labour Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1659.12"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1668.1", "colnum": "1668", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "preceding_text": "during the last few weeks. The farmers would prefer him to remain permanently in the rôle of farmers' friend for which he cast himself before the election. It is a rôle which suits him very much better. Nor do we quarrel with the Government's present proposals for agricultural credit. Of course, no one can say that there is as yet any prospect of obtaining credit at reasonable terms.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1668.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1674.2", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. Frederick Peart)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. Frederick Peart)", "preceding_text": "pportunity to debate, in a calm and constructive way, this year's Annual Price Review and the Government's agricultural policy. Too much of the talk of the past two weeks has been highly emotional and has paid little or no regard to the facts. Even the right hon. Member for Rushcliffe (Sir M. Redmayne) denigrated the activities of a very famous Minister of Agriculture, Lord Williams of Barn-burgh.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1674.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1674.2", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. Frederick Peart)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. Frederick Peart)", "preceding_text": "th)—I am sorry that he is not here—could sign the Opposition Motion after all his activities over the past few years and what he did for the confidence of the farming community. The right hon. Member for Bexley utterly destroyed their confidence by trying to enter the Common Market on terms which would have thrown away the 1947 and 1957 Acts without compensating safeguards for the British farmers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1674.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1677.2", "colnum": "1677", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The Post Office?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "s. Hon. Members who are objective and sensible will see when they compare this with previous reviews over the last eight, nine or 10 years that the Daily Telegraph is abot t right. Admittedly, we have asked the farmers to bear a considerable part of their increased costs, but in the present national economic circumstances, despite what hon. Members opposite say, we must ask that of every industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1677.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1677.4", "colnum": "1677", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The Post Office?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "Many of the criticisms—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1677.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1677.5", "colnum": "1677", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "Many of the criticisms which I have received—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1677.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1682.1", "colnum": "1682", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Windy.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "In this case—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1682.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1682.6", "colnum": "1682", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "If I thought that a responsible Conservative would like to ask me a question, I should allow him to do so, but I do not regard the hon. Member for The Wrekin (Mr. W. Yates) as being responsible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1682.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1690.1", "colnum": "1690", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "ime for those who wish to destroy the system of agricultural support which stems from the 1947 Act passed by the Labour Government. In a highly industrialised society such as ours that Act provided the framework within which agriculture could enjoy its proper place in the economy. It has enabled British people to enjoy better food at much lower prices than in any comparable industrialised country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1690.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1692.1", "colnum": "1692", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "hat the system imposes a considerable charge on the taxpayer, which can be defended only if it is in the national interest. I have, therefore, equally no time at all for irresponsible elements of the farming community, encouraged, I regret to say, by intemperate remarks sometimes from hon. Gentlemen opposite, who talk about extremist action. I say to them, and they are a small minority of farmers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1692.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1693.1", "colnum": "1693", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paul Hawkins", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paul Hawkins", "preceding_text": "neer. That was in the 1930s, when one needed money to stick on a farm. Since then, apart from my work on farms and in cattle markets, I have served in the Territorial Army with a company of Norfolk farm workers, who are the finest men one could serve with. I had five years as a prisoner of war, surrounded by the Highland Division. If that was not enough to make me tolerant of other people\"s views—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1693.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1704.6", "colnum": "1704", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Turton", "preceding_text": "I will say why.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1704.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1711.3", "colnum": "1711", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "preceding_text": " no doubt that they will get an extra £6 million. This is not the sort of Review which most of us on this side would expect in normal times, but these are not normal times. In these circumstances it is an extraordinarily fair and generous Review. All the hysteria which has been generated by the Tory Party, encouraging this nonsense which is going on in the countryside and leading these poor boobs—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1711.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1713.2", "colnum": "1713", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who has?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mallalieu", "preceding_text": "now that many farming leaders very often exclaim that we must have an expanding agriculture. They base their claim largely on the fact that the agricultural production which we have had over the last few years has been to a large extent of great benefit to our balance-of-payments position. Nobody disputes that, but surely it is not wise to say that we must have unlimited production in agriculture.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1713.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1716.1", "colnum": "1716", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And good workers.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "preceding_text": "I ought to declare an interest, or disinterest, in the Price Review. I am a big farmer. This is often brought against me, and perhaps one could notice in the speech of the hon. and learned Member for Brigg (Mr. E. L. Mallalieu) that he thought that farmers should not be prosperous or prosperous-looking. But I have a good, big farm. It is of course superbly managed, and I have a good banker.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1716.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1721.1", "colnum": "1721", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clifford Kenyon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clifford Kenyon", "preceding_text": " every type of farm. The amalgamation of farms is an absolute necessity, and I am glad that my right hon. Friend is introducing it in this Price Review. I hope that he gets along with it quickly. In amalgamating farms, I am certain that he will put thousands of farmers on a better financial basis and a higher standard of living than they have ever experienced. Now I shall tread on someone's corns.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1721.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1724.0", "colnum": "1724", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clifford Kenyon", "preceding_text": "out three years. We realised then that the housewife, if she could go into a shop and make the purchases she wanted, would pay for them—and she did. Prices went up and the housewives paid them because they had free choice. Milk is worth more than the housewife is paying today. When I consider the price of beer and see it going down people's necks and then consider the price we are giving for milk—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1721.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1724.7", "colnum": "1724", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "1s. 6d.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kenyon", "preceding_text": "Will somebody tell me the price of beer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1724.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1725.0", "colnum": "1725", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "We cannot get drunk on milk.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kenyon", "preceding_text": "I am told that the price of a pint of beer is 1s. 6d. The price of a pint of milk is 9d. and there is no comparison between their respective food values.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1724.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1737.3", "colnum": "1737", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\" Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "e farms, bringing him in £97,750 for 2,128 acres, and said that the sale should not make too serious an inroad into the acreage, because at a recent estimate the owner's estates included 56 large farms in Lanarkshire alone. If my hon. Friend wants to find out who that large farmer is, he will find his name at the top of the Opposition Motion saying that they have lost confidence in the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1737.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1760.7", "colnum": "1760", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "g up from the branches throughout the country. If right hon. Gentlemen opposite do not agree with me, I hope that they will say so, because that is my information and I believe it to be true. The resentment which the farming industry feels is centred basically on the question of incomes. I accept, as one must, that this is a problem which has been working through the industry for a number of year—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1760.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1764.1", "colnum": "1764", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shocking.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": " to the price adjustments within the standard quantities structure which rise or fall according to whether the home crops are large or small. What the Government are now doing, and let everybody realise it, is not only to operate the standard quantity adjustments—an addition of 7d. and 9d.—but imposing in addition the maximum cuts under the 1957 Act as well and on top—an extra 1s. 1d. and 1s. 4d.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1764.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1766.0", "colnum": "1766", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "rt in helping the country as a whole. Farmers also know that as a community they have played a big part, which has been referred to often during the debate, in helping with the balance of payments. There is a record, which is now getting a little worn, and the needle keeps bumping out of the groove, about the economic legacy which right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite found when they took office.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1766.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1771.3", "colnum": "1771", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": " for if we spent money for three years on a small farm and then it goes, that must be wasted money. From this point of view, therefore, we consider that this improvement, which brings in Scotland 3,000 more farms into the Scheme and applies it with a new emphasis, will give a far better return for efficiency. I will now deal with the milk question, but before doing so I will have a glass of water.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1771.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1771.3", "colnum": "1771", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "been asking for this to be done year after year. Co-operative marketing will also help and, with the Small Farmer Scheme, this represents a major advance. When we consider the milk issue it should be remembered that we have given a figure of £11 million. I hope that hon. Gentlemen opposite will remember that the difficulties have arisen during the past 10 or 11 years, during the time of Tory rule.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1771.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1771.3", "colnum": "1771", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "ope that hon. Gentlemen opposite will remember that the difficulties have arisen during the past 10 or 11 years, during the time of Tory rule. [ Interruption. ] Hon. Gentlemen opposite must face these facts. I have represented a milk-producing area in the House for 18 years. Indeed, there are probably more milk producers in my constituency than in most constituencies. I am speaking about Ayrshire.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1771.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-03-31", "file": "debates1965-03-31a.xml", "sha256": "90ae8c410abb4b47", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1787.2", "colnum": "1787", "heading": "CIVIL ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Stodart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Stodart", "preceding_text": "1965, a copy of which was laid before this House on 25th February, be annulled. It would not surprise me if, after so concentrated a day on agriculture, by the end of this Prayer you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, wondered whether any agricultural sustenance was adequate or whether something else produced in Scotland might be needed. It is not altogether unfitting to end a day of such agricultural activity—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-03-31a.1787.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1827.3", "colnum": "1827", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HONG KONG", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "k under the auspices of the International Federation of Trade Unions in Hong Kong in order to inquire into conditions there? Is she further aware that his report has revealed that conditions for seamen sailing out of Hong Kong in regard to wages and other matters connected with their work are a disgrace to civilisation? Will she realise that mere acceptance of the report is insufficient? Will she—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1827.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1845.6", "colnum": "1845", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — POLARIS WARHEADS (UNDERGROUND TESTING)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The question of testing individual components is possible. What I said in the debate—I have not the text before me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1845.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1854.2", "colnum": "1854", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "My researches have found that the right hon. Gentleman himself opposed the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1854.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1878.1", "colnum": "1878", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We know.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "ntleman was right to remind us that there is no guarantee at present that this will be so, and that is why certain countries in South-East Asia formed the S.E.A.T.O. Alliance, bringing to their aid the countries of the West, where the power lay. I suggest, it I may, that hon. Members, and particularly some hon. Members below the Gangway opposite, should try to realise what the Americans are doing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1884.2", "colnum": "1884", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "I think that the former Foreign Secretary expressed the Government's intention to get on better terms with Nasser—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1884.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1906.1", "colnum": "1906", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Colonel Sir Tufton Beamish", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Colonel Sir Tufton Beamish", "preceding_text": "stion. He would not have got away with that reply had the Question been reached. He would have come under very heavy pressure to give a more direct answer to a very important Question. If one can draw a conclusion from the Prime Minister's reply to my hon. Friend, it would be, I think, that there has been no modification of the Government's attitude to negotiate with Europe over the Common Market.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1906.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1931.1", "colnum": "1931", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Insisted.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "I did not say that they were forced to come down. I said that Ngo Dhin Diem arranged for them to come down.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1931.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1933.0", "colnum": "1933", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": " voted full powers to President Johnson to undertake any warlike action he thought fit in the Straits of Tongking and in the area of Vietnam—a very remarkable coincidence. The coincidence is all the more significant because subsequent events show how, step by step in this whole history, the Americans have sought to justify their actions in first of all intervening in a civil war on the wrong side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1933.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1939.3", "colnum": "1939", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lagden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lagden", "preceding_text": "No, not now. If a person goes to the Dispatch Box, as the Prime Minister did, and deliberately tells untruths—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1939.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1945.1", "colnum": "1945", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crawshaw", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crawshaw", "preceding_text": "really believe that the Americans are negotiating from a position of weakness? We all know that they are negotiating from strength. If the Americans are convinced that they cannot by fighting against North Vietnam stop the fighting in South Vietnam, what are they hoping for? We have seen them going north towards the Chinese frontier. What would the Americans feel like if China were bombing Mexico?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1945.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1960.3", "colnum": "1960", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "ression by a large Power against a small nation. The aggression comes from the North—of this there is the clear evidence of the Commission and American documents, mentioned in the Foreign Secretary's speech. Let us be clear of this: the Americans can have only one interest in being present now in South Vietnam, and that is to protect that country against Communist aggression, to help those people—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1960.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-01", "file": "debates1965-04-01a.xml", "sha256": "b14b661b77e5d8a9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1973.1", "colnum": "1973", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " that I was interested in his speech this week in Barnet, when all we got was that the Conservative Party was a party of the Right. We entirely endorse that. The interesting thing about his speech tonight was that there was quite a bit of foreign affairs, but, to judge from his kind of anatomical posture, he seemed to be directing drastically all of his speech to my hon. Friends below the Gangway.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-01a.1973.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-02", "file": "debates1965-04-02a.xml", "sha256": "9b998c643586687e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2097.13", "colnum": "2097", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CRIMINAL PROCEDURE (SCOTLAND) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Second Reading deferred till Friday next.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2097.11"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-02", "file": "debates1965-04-02a.xml", "sha256": "9b998c643586687e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2097.20", "colnum": "2097", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EMOLUMENTS OF TOP MANAGE MENT (DISCLOSURE AND REGULATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Order read for resuming adjourned debate on Second Reading [ 26th February ].", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2097.19"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-02", "file": "debates1965-04-02a.xml", "sha256": "9b998c643586687e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.1", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE ACT 1949 (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Debate further adjourned till Friday next.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2097.21"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-02", "file": "debates1965-04-02a.xml", "sha256": "9b998c643586687e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.4", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Orders of the Day — NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE ACT 1946 (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Second Reading deferred till Friday next.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-02", "file": "debates1965-04-02a.xml", "sha256": "9b998c643586687e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.8", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE (EXTENSION OF VOTING FACILI TIES) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Order read for resuming adjourned debate on Second Reading [ 12th February ].", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-02", "file": "debates1965-04-02a.xml", "sha256": "9b998c643586687e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.11", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CARAVAN SITES (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Debate further adjourned till Friday next.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-02", "file": "debates1965-04-02a.xml", "sha256": "9b998c643586687e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.14", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING (UNOCCUPIED HEREDITAMENTS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Second Reading deferred till Friday next.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.12"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-02", "file": "debates1965-04-02a.xml", "sha256": "9b998c643586687e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.17", "colnum": "2098", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSE BUYERS PROTECTION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Second Reading deferred till Friday next.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-02a.2098.15"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.19.0", "colnum": "19", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Davies", "preceding_text": "ot only in underwater weapons development through the two types of nuclear-powered submarines but in potentiality for our merchant fleet in certain aspects of underwater research? In addition, the Navy is the only body in this country engaged in research of a humanitarian nature which might be of great importance in supplying the protein requirements of under-developed countries from fish farming—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.19.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.55.1", "colnum": "55", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "eman's speech, with its characteristic lucidity—and the House is indebted to him for that—and the observations he made at the end of it, could not conceal the fact that what is in this Measure does not offer any solution for the real problem with which hon. Members on both sides of the House are concerned. That is the problem of the shortage of accommodation to let in certain areas of the country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.55.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.57.2", "colnum": "57", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "t at the General Election. The simple phrase \"a Bill to repeal the wicked Tory Rent Act\" echoed from every platform at the General Election. Whatever can be said against the Bill, no one can say that against it. It repeals, to be precise, Section 12 and paragraph 4 of Schedule 5 of the 1957 Act. The Minister knows that it would be wholly impracticable to try to restore the status quo ante of 1957.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.57.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.84.3", "colnum": "84", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John M. Temple", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John M. Temple", "preceding_text": "eas. As my right hon. Friend the Member for Hampstead has said, however, in many areas there is a surplus of housing accommodation and my right hon. Friend identified those areas. Why did not the Government adopt the principle which they have adopted in the Control of Office and Industrial Development Bill? In that Bill, the Government are taking power by order to bring in other areas if there is—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.84.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.143.1", "colnum": "143", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. P. Costain", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. P. Costain", "preceding_text": ", I have sat through the entire debate. Unfortunately, since only about three minutes are available to me before I must resume my seat, I cannot possibly have the last word. I also can- not, in such a very limited time, make a speech which has taken me three days to prepare. The Bill is necessary because, after all, hon. Members opposite have been threatening to introduce it for the last 13 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.143.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.149.0", "colnum": "149", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": "since I left the Bar in 1956 I did not have personal contact with the problem until I became a London Member in 1963—that I frankly admit that I had underestimated the natural growth of the population of the Metropolis, both by process of child-bearing and by earlier marriage and, therefore, the sub-division of houses. I do not know how far I am to be blamed for this mistake. If I am to be blamed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.149.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.155.1", "colnum": "155", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Scotland (Mr. William Ross)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Scotland (Mr. William Ross)", "preceding_text": " be responsible to the Secretary of State. This is simply because we discussed the matter with the local authorities who preferred the matter to be dealt with in this way. In Scotland, it may well be that the whole question of rents and local authority ownership of so many houses would be far better handled in a different way, and so the independence of these rent officers will be beyond question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.155.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.161.5", "colnum": "161", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.161.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.178.2", "colnum": "178", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SOUTH-EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANISATION (IMMUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Newens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Newens", "preceding_text": "I beg your pardon, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, but I want to reiterate that I have great misgivings about the Order being introduced at this time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.178.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.178.6", "colnum": "178", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SOUTH-EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANISATION (IMMUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Newens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Newens", "preceding_text": "I will not delay the House longer than is necessary, but I should like to dissociate myself very much from the good will which was expressed by the noble Lady in her last sentence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.178.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.184.5", "colnum": "184", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SOUTH-EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANISATION (IMMUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "he Order of this sort is that it is felt to be in the British national interest. I should like the hon. Gentleman to explain—he has not done so far—what, in his view, the United Kingdom is getting out of the conferment of privileges of this kind. Does it help us in Malaysia, for example, to give diplomatic privileges to S.E.A.T.O. representatives in London? Does it help us to get peace in Vietnam?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.184.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.189.1", "colnum": "189", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SOUTH-EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANISATION (IMMUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Orme", "preceding_text": "Surely the hon. Member is straying into the realms of policy?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.189.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.195.0", "colnum": "195", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SOUTH-EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANISATION (IMMUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "s it right that the signatories to the Protocol—that is, South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia—will, if they send representatives, have similar diplomatic privileges and immunities? According to my reading of the Order that is not so, but the Minister did not mention this issue. If that is so—and the House wants to know—it is such an important and sensitive matter that the Minister should deal with it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.194.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.196.1", "colnum": "196", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SOUTH-EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANISATION (IMMUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Webster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Webster", "preceding_text": "f service in the House. My hon. Friends the Members for Aberdeen, South (Lady Tweedsmuir), Bury St. Edmunds (Mr. Eldon Griffiths) and Richmond, Surrey (Mr. A. Royle) have put serious questions which matter very much to hon. Members and to the people of this country, and I was horrified that while they were doing so the Minister of State was either incapable of writing them down or failed to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.196.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.197.1", "colnum": "197", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SOUTH-EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANISATION (IMMUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leo Abse", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leo Abse", "preceding_text": "ead in South-East Asia it would be regarded as if we were determined to be discourteous and to treat people who are coming as our guests as if they were strangers and enemies. It is most miserable that political capital should be made out of it, and I am confident that the seriousness with which the Minister addressed himself to the Order is the manner which, on reflection, the House would prefer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.197.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-05", "file": "debates1965-04-05a.xml", "sha256": "3ad68c047ee04a09", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.198.1", "colnum": "198", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SOUTH-EAST ASIA TREATY ORGANISATION (IMMUNITIES AND PRIVILEGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "With your permission, Mr. Speaker, and that of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-05a.198.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.219.1", "colnum": "219", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McGuire", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McGuire", "preceding_text": "Does my hon. Friend realise that the mineworkers would not mind his publishing figures in respect of absenteeism if similar figures were published in respect of every other industry? What the miners are fed up to the back teeth with is dogs barking before they are hurt.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.219.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.230.4", "colnum": "230", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "They are all privately owned.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "Will my right hon. Friend also publish the facts showing that the steel industries of the Common Market countries, the United States, and Japan, have increased their exports far more substantially than private industry steel has done in this country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.230.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.232.8", "colnum": "232", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morris", "preceding_text": "This is a matter that is best left to the commercial judgment of the boards.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.232.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.235.3", "colnum": "235", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "We had better not go into comparisons—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.235.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.240.7", "colnum": "240", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "May I tempt my right hon. Friend to go a little further than he did in those characteristically diffident answers?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.240.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.241.1", "colnum": "241", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "Does not my right hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.241.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.256.1", "colnum": "256", "heading": "TAX REFORM—EFFICIENCY", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "erefore, I cannot say now the amount of tax which industry, like individuals, will be called on to pay. What I can say is that as I see it today there is every likelihood that the rate will not exceed 40 per cent. I think that the Committee will recognise that I am not fixing the rate; but companies should be able to make their calculations with reasonable confidence in the light of these figures—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.256.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.261.4", "colnum": "261", "heading": "EXTERNAL CAPITAL ACCOUNT", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": " investment. The time has certainly come to do something to correct this. In approaching this problem the Government are very mindful of both the benefits which accrue from overseas investment—particularly the contribution which overseas companies with strong British ties make to our exports—and also the contribution which income from investment can make to the balance of payments in the long run.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.261.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.261.4", "colnum": "261", "heading": "EXTERNAL CAPITAL ACCOUNT", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Time for a change.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "er tax burden by investing abroad than by investing at home. For example—this really puts the whole thing in a nutshell—we treat a British investor in the United States better for our tax purposes than we treat a British investor in our own country and better than a United States investor is treated by his country for tax purposes if he invests either in the United States or in the United Kingdom.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.261.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.267.3", "colnum": "267", "heading": "EXTERNAL CAPITAL ACCOUNT", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "period in which to make such a reassessment. I am very mindful of the interests of those who have for long been dependent for development capital and otherwise on us. I do not expect that the impact of the measures we are taking on the developing countries, towards whom we have special responsibilities, will be adverse to any significant degree. But I shall be watching this aspect of the question—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.267.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.276.1", "colnum": "276", "heading": "BUDGET ACCOUNTS", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "ent. His death has removed an outstanding public servant. One of the great strengths of this country is that we are well blessed with men and women who, without thought of reward, but from a sense of public duty, are ready to devote themselves continuously to the service of their fellow citizens. I am sure that the Committee would wish to join me in paying tribute to the memory of Lord Mackintosh.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.276.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.279.1", "colnum": "279", "heading": "BUDGET ACCOUNTS", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"0h.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "nt's policy and its decision to cancel the project. The effect of this decision is to save £35 million of Government expenditure in 1965–66, after taking account of the terminal costs which may become due to be paid this year. For technical reasons this saving appears in the accounts as an increase in receipts. We all admire the technical skill that has been put into this advanced aircraft.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.279.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.312.1", "colnum": "312", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "the terms of trade turning in our favour, I wondered if the Prime Minister and hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite are now reflecting that they might have saved themselves considerable anxiety and the country a Budget like this—and an autumn crisis involving the value of the £ —had they not held up to ridicule similar statements made by my right hon. Friend the Member for Barnet (Mr. Maudling).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.312.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.312.1", "colnum": "312", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " Gentlemen opposite are now reflecting that they might have saved themselves considerable anxiety and the country a Budget like this—and an autumn crisis involving the value of the £ —had they not held up to ridicule similar statements made by my right hon. Friend the Member for Barnet (Mr. Maudling). [ Interruption. ] Everything that the Chancellor said under these headings today only reinforces—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.312.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.312.1", "colnum": "312", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "r. Maudling). [ Interruption. ] Everything that the Chancellor said under these headings today only reinforces—[ Interruption. ]—I prefer my matches to the Prime Minister's economics, and I think that \"after this Budget most people in the country will, too; we will listen to the speech of the First Secretary with great pleasure, no doubt tomorrow—the policies which we were following over the last—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.312.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1", "colnum": "315", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "er the General Election. Apparently they had no misgivings in the autumn Budget. The right hon. Gentleman may remember that I then followed him and said that his Budget was inflationary. That brought jeers, and cries of derision from the benches opposite. Well, here is the result today. Any action that the Chancellor has taken today is in respect of the mismanagement of the economy since November—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1", "colnum": "315", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "terruption. ] Hon. Members opposite again jeer and laugh, but they did not think that any disinflation was necessary after the General Election, they did not think it necessary in November, and they have done nothing between then and today in any way to curtail Government expenditure. Now the right hon. Gentleman has concluded that he must take this large amount out of consumption in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1", "colnum": "315", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " and the balance of trade is improving, as we said they would. I turn to the right hon. Gentleman's conclusion about the cancellation of the TSR2. I rose as he was speaking in order to complain that while he told us of the savings that he expected to be made from the cancellation of this aircraft, he did not tell us whether it was intended to buy the TFX from America, or what would take its place—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1", "colnum": "315", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "ms scurrying to seek employment and security elsewhere, and when he gets rid of our greatest asset of this kind—this great aeroplane, probably the best of its kind in the world. I do not think that this is the best way to enter into partnership with Europeans for future projects of this kind. There is only one explanation for the procedure that the right hon. Gentleman has adopted, and it is funk.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1", "colnum": "315", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "he best way to enter into partnership with Europeans for future projects of this kind. There is only one explanation for the procedure that the right hon. Gentleman has adopted, and it is funk. [ Interruption. ] The Government are ashamed of what they are doing, and they want to cover it up by hiding it amongst the rest of the things which a Chancellor of the Exchequer normally says on Budget Day—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.315.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.318.2", "colnum": "318", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir Cyril Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Cyril Osborne", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I seek your guidance, Sir Herbert. Is it quite in order for the Secretary of State to make this statement now, since the Chancellor of the Exchequer said it would be made at 7 o'clock and many hon. Members are returning at 7 o'clock expecting the statement to be made then?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.318.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.324.0", "colnum": "324", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON.MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "f the Committee. If you will not accept a Motion from me for the adjournment of the House and that we should take this matter on the Adjournment and then resume the debate in Committee, which I think would be much the best way, I shall have to ask you, Sir Herbert, whether, when the right hon. Gentleman has finished making his statement, you will allow questions in the same way as after Questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.324.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.324.7", "colnum": "324", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Barber", "preceding_text": "Last Friday, the fate of the TSR2 was in all the national newspapers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.324.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.328.5", "colnum": "328", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Lord President of the Council (Mr. Herbert Bowden)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He said so.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Lord President of the Council (Mr. Herbert Bowden)", "preceding_text": "The assumption here, Sir Herbert, seems to be that the Minister is making a statement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.328.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.328.5", "colnum": "328", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Lord President of the Council (Mr. Herbert Bowden)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"At seven o'clock.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Lord President of the Council (Mr. Herbert Bowden)", "preceding_text": "t the Minister is making a statement. [HON. MEMBERS: \"He said so.\"] If hon. Members will refer to HANSARD tomorrow, they will find that my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his statement, dealing with the TSR2 and the saving therefrom, said quite clearly that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence, if he caught the eye of the Chair, would make a speech later on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.328.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.328.5", "colnum": "328", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Lord President of the Council (Mr. Herbert Bowden)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Lord President of the Council (Mr. Herbert Bowden)", "preceding_text": "e Exchequer in his statement, dealing with the TSR2 and the saving therefrom, said quite clearly that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence, if he caught the eye of the Chair, would make a speech later on. [HON. MEMBERS: \"At seven o'clock.\"] That is the position. I understand further —I was not in the Chamber at the time—that the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.328.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.329.5", "colnum": "329", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Captain John Litchfield", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"0h.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain John Litchfield", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Sir Herbert. There are certain indications that copies of the right hon. Gentleman's statement have already been passed to the Press.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.329.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.331.3", "colnum": "331", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "small number for training purposes. It would not be necessary for Her Majesty's Government to place a follow-up order until as late as April, 1967—that is, two years from now. This arrangement will enable us to complete our defence review before deciding whether to place any orders at all, and it gives us two years from now before we need take a final decision on the total numbers that we require.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.331.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.332.5", "colnum": "332", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "s purposes when I stood up to speak. It contains—[ Interruption. ]—wait a minute. It is not a release in the exact terms in which I am making the speech now. It contains some of the information that I am now giving to the Committee but no information which I am not giving to the Committee. I am, in fact, giving the Committee some information which is not being released to the Press at this moment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.332.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.334.3", "colnum": "334", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Soames", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Soames", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I put this to you, Sir Samuel. Is it not a point of order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.334.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.334.9", "colnum": "334", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. L. Mallalieu", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Seeing that, during the last half hour, there has been a manifest abuse of the procedure of the House by right hon. and hon. Members opposite rising to bogus points of order, would it be in order for you to send for Mr. Speaker?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.334.8"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.335.11", "colnum": "335", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon.\r\nMembers", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godfrey Lagden", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Sir Samuel. Is it not your opinion that this statement, which involves the livilihood of thousands of people, should be heard in circumstances other than this?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.335.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.336.1", "colnum": "336", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "ost of the opportunity which is now open to them to fill some of these gaps. The Government are keenly aware that many skilled workers will have to change jobs as a result of the decision which has been taken. As many as 20,000 people may be involved, the majority at the British Aircraft Corporation Ltd. and Bristol Siddeley Engines Ltd. The terms of severance payment are a matter for negotiation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.336.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.336.1", "colnum": "336", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "workers will have to change jobs as a result of the decision which has been taken. As many as 20,000 people may be involved, the majority at the British Aircraft Corporation Ltd. and Bristol Siddeley Engines Ltd. The terms of severance payment are a matter for negotiation—[ Interruption. ]—between individual employers and employees. The Government expect their contractors to act as good employers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.336.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.338.5", "colnum": "338", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Resign.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "quirements, was placing an impossible burden on the economy and on the defence budget. While we in this country cannot afford in the future to undertake a wide range of highly sophisticated projects by ourselves, it is the Government's firm intention to retain a lively and viable aircraft and equipment industry of a size consistent with our resources and needs, both in military and civil aviation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.338.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.338.6", "colnum": "338", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "and the Comet Maritime Patrol aircraft have already been announced. In addition, we are planning with the French the joint development of a strike trainer aircraft for the early 1970s. In the longer term, we hope to follow this with a more advanced project incorporating variable geometry, and preliminary discussions on this are already under way. There was no chance of accommodating any of these —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.338.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.338.6", "colnum": "338", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "aft have already been announced. In addition, we are planning with the French the joint development of a strike trainer aircraft for the early 1970s. In the longer term, we hope to follow this with a more advanced project incorporating variable geometry, and preliminary discussions on this are already under way. There was no chance of accommodating any of these —[ Interruption. ] — in our defence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.338.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.339.8", "colnum": "339", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about cancellation costs?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "These projects will form a sound basis for the reorganisation of the industry's resources and capacity, certainly on a reduced scale, but also in a manner better calculated to serve the defence and economic interests of the country and to build up an effective collaboration with our allies in Europe.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.339.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.339.10", "colnum": "339", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Terminal costs?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "Those are included in the saving of £300 million which I have announced.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.339.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.340.5", "colnum": "340", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "You did.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "I did not say that we had a firm or fixed price for the American—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.340.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.341.0", "colnum": "341", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Resign.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "It is a decision of crucial importance not only to the military, but also to the economic future of the country, but I must say that anyone who has sat here for the last hour would not have thought that hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite thought so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.340.9"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.343.0", "colnum": "343", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "The Deputy-Chairman", "preceding_text": "I did on one or two occasions call the right hon. Gentleman to order. I do not think that the right hon. Gentleman should criticise the Chair, if he was doing so, in the way that he did.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.342.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.343.4", "colnum": "343", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "The Deputy-Chairman", "preceding_text": "Mr. Soames.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.343.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-06", "file": "debates1965-04-06a.xml", "sha256": "61cb93d39da0e0e7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.387.1", "colnum": "387", "heading": "ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "The Corporation Tax, once it is examined—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-06a.387.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.416.1", "colnum": "416", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is impossible.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "preceding_text": "I am not aware of that, though perhaps the hon. Gentleman is. I have read out the conclusion of Professor Sellin and I have here a good deal more of his article. As the hon. and learned Member for Billericay knows, it is very difficult to produce absolute proof of anything which will happen in the future.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.416.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.430.0", "colnum": "430", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "The Chairman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": " I am not prepared to rule in advance at what stage I would accept a Motion for Closure on any debate in the future. However, I should like to say, from the Chair, that I hope that we may continue our proceedings on the Bill with a certain amount of good will on both sides. I think that it would be a great pity if the Committee's debates on subsequent Amendments were always to end in the Closure —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.430.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.431.5", "colnum": "431", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Two hours.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that, Dr. King. On a point of order, I am simply asking, in view of the circumstances and the fact that the Closure was put on the Amendment after 2½ hours of debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.431.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.431.7", "colnum": "431", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Rolf Dudley Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Rolf Dudley Williams", "preceding_text": "ng upstairs. I have moved in that Committee that we should meet on Monday mornings instead of Wednesday mornings because it is so inconvenient for my hon. Friends who are interested in this Committee also to exercise their responsibilities in the Standing Committee as well. I do not wish to debate that. I hope that an opportunity to debate it will be given by the Leader of the House in due course—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.431.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.458.2", "colnum": "458", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME INFORMATION SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What does \"Yes, Sir\" mean?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "The Answer that I have given is the answer to the Question on the Order Paper. If the right hon. and learned Member wants an answer to his supplementary question, I can tell him that I am responsible for answering Questions in this House about co-ordination. That is what I am doing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.458.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.459.1", "colnum": "459", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME INFORMATION SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "Can the right hon. Gentleman explain, in answer to the supplementary questions asked by my hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) and my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Wirral Mr. Selwyn Lloyd), how the Answer \"Yes, Sir\" to Question No. 3 makes any sense at all?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.459.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.459.2", "colnum": "459", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME INFORMATION SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I can only repeat once again that they will have to look at the Answer given by the Prime Minister on 12th November, 1964.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.459.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.466.0", "colnum": "466", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME INFORMATION SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why now?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I have a deep interest in Scotland now—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.466.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.467.1", "colnum": "467", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME INFORMATION SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He has.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "If there is any question of falsehoods over the Ferranti debate the hon. Gentleman should search his own conscience. Regarding the question of my responsibility, the hon. Member will have to look at HANSARD for 12th November—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.467.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.467.6", "colnum": "467", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME INFORMATION SERVICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": "Has my right hon. Friend any idea which he would care to debate in the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.467.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.491.3", "colnum": "491", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "This is a total of £492 million in the last six months. These figures are worse than at any time since the darkest years of the last war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.491.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.492.1", "colnum": "492", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ments, and the American problem of overseas loans and overseas capital investment. The Chancellor is damaging existing investment as well as clamping down on the rest. To sum up the Budget, there is nothing to produce incentives, nothing to increase efficiency and exports, nothing to excite and nothing to inspire—absolutely nothing. What has happened is that the \"little Englanders\" have won again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.492.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.507.1", "colnum": "507", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": " came to £234 million —within the brackets which most commentators have suggested. Everybody in this Committee, however much we oppose taxation and dislike it, must hope that the right hon. Gentleman has made a judgment which will restore strength in the £ sterling. But there is the question which the right hon. Gentleman raised earlier, about how the Government ever got into this position at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.507.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.512.3", "colnum": "512", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ross the world was that surcharges had never been imposed anywhere—either in France or in Canada, for example—without a degree of devaluation following. That is why it was so important, although right hon. Gentlemen opposite could not see or know any of the results of imposing them, that the surcharges should start to come off. This is a demonstration that the Government will not protect sterling—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.512.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.512.3", "colnum": "512", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "en used elsewhere without some degree of devaluation. Everybody knows this. That was why it was so important for the Government to take that action. What the Government must do is to make plain, continually and by actions, that they will maintain the strength of sterling, because that is all-important in the interest of this country, and they will get every support from the Opposition in doing so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.512.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.514.1", "colnum": "514", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "mple of Mobil making its own arrangement—a very successful one. This needs to be encouraged, because it can lead to the sort of economy which we want to see. Have we really got to wait two or three years for the Royal Commission on the trade unions before we can make progress? Even if the right hon. Gentleman waits for that, the country does not have the time to wait three years before it is done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.514.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.519.1", "colnum": "519", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "We have just listened for 72 minutes to a speech by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath) which we were told by the mid-day papers was going to be a hard-hitting speech, but we did not get it even after 72 minutes. The first 70 minutes was wholly destructive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.519.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.520.0", "colnum": "520", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": " I felt some real sympathy with the right hon. Gentleman in his attempt to play with \"emotive\" words—he said—in order to get votes. I can think of no better summing up than that. The speech to which we have just listened offered nothing new, though it was the less destructive of the two speeches we have had from the Opposition Front Bench today and yesterday. My own judgment, for what it is worth—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.520.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.520.0", "colnum": "520", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Which are you?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "e people's mouths give different impressions from those which are intended when they use them—but for all the strong words I could not help feeling that the Leader of the Opposition could not hide the fact that basically he is a decent fellow, whereas having listened to the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Bexley I could not help feeling that he could not hide the fact that basically he is not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.520.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3", "colnum": "529", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "I do not want to take too long.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3", "colnum": "529", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "egy is a firm belief that the economic policy must not start and finish with the manipulation of short-term demand through the Budget. The Budget is part of an attack on the country's economic problems on many fronts. It had inevitably to deal with the distortion of the economy resulting from the previous Government's mismanagement. But it signals the end of the weary recourse to stop-go measures—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3", "colnum": "529", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "s part of an attack on the country's economic problems on many fronts. It had inevitably to deal with the distortion of the economy resulting from the previous Government's mismanagement. But it signals the end of the weary recourse to stop-go measures—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—which were the inevitable routine of successive Conservative Chancellors when their pre-election sprees were over. This time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3", "colnum": "529", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "the economy resulting from the previous Government's mismanagement. But it signals the end of the weary recourse to stop-go measures—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—which were the inevitable routine of successive Conservative Chancellors when their pre-election sprees were over. This time—[ Interruption. ] If the right hon. Gentleman will listen it will help him. It may even help Kleinwort Benson—this time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3", "colnum": "529", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "ment's mismanagement. But it signals the end of the weary recourse to stop-go measures—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—which were the inevitable routine of successive Conservative Chancellors when their pre-election sprees were over. This time—[ Interruption. ] If the right hon. Gentleman will listen it will help him. It may even help Kleinwort Benson—this time—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"] This time the Budget—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.529.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.532.1", "colnum": "532", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "t, on the machinery, and on the criteria to be applied. There is now a prices and incomes policy in existence. It is a practical policy, it is an agreed policy and it is a fair policy. It marks the end of the old negative concept of wage restraint. Are right hon. Gentlemen opposite still sneering? It is a policy for increasing real incomes instead of paper increases cancelled out by rising prices.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.532.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.554.2", "colnum": "554", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wait and see.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "pposite talk as though we lived in a paradise throughout those years. I will not waste any more time on the right hon. Gentleman, except to say one further word. One would have thought from his observations that yesterday, inspired by the Leader of the Opposition, hon. Gentlemen opposite would have voted against the Budget Resolutions. But on not a single Resolution did they make critical comment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.554.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.554.2", "colnum": "554", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "e Budget Resolutions. But on not a single Resolution did they make critical comment. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Wait and see.\"] We will wait and see. But if hon. Gentlemen opposite had any guts at all they would have voted against some of the Resolutions yesterday. But perhaps they did not understand them. Perhaps they were not sure what they ought to do. I will now give the Committee something constructive.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.554.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-07", "file": "debates1965-04-07a.xml", "sha256": "7e5821ccb75e83ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.582.1", "colnum": "582", "heading": "BILL PRESENTED", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gresham Cooke", "preceding_text": "It is obvious that they will react more favourably. An incomes policy at the moment is hardly working. As was said by my right hon. Friend the Member for Flint, West (Mr. Birch), there is an increase in earnings of about 8 per cent. over last year, and whatever may be said against my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Wirral (Mr. Selwyn Lloyd), the result of the pay pause was—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-07a.582.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.647.0", "colnum": "647", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborn", "preceding_text": "While thanking the First Secretary for that statement, may I reiterate the fears expressed by my hon. Friends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.647.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.647.4", "colnum": "647", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman is trying much too hard.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.647.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.647.5", "colnum": "647", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "We have already suffered enough—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.647.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.651.6", "colnum": "651", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Sensible.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "That seems to me a remarkable comment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.651.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.658.2", "colnum": "658", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is the point of order?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. May I, with respect, draw your attention to the fact that, quite recently, the right hon. Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath) tried to inflict a speech on the House and he is now beginning a speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.658.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.661.1", "colnum": "661", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Teeling", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Teeling", "preceding_text": "ad? Is he aware that, both in foreign countries and in the Commonwealth, there are many British people in their 70s and 80s whom it would be cruel to bring back to England, where they have no place to go and no relatives? Does not the right hon. Gentleman think that, as The People pointed out in an article the other day, the appalling conditions of some of these people on the Riviera and in Malta—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.661.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.663.4", "colnum": "663", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "ly difficult question. It is assumed that the delay is perhaps due to the fact that the Government or the Civil Service do not want to reach a decision, but that is not the case. It would be very difficult to answer the last part of my right hon. Friend's supplementary question, but the subject is being taken seriously. If we do not want to score political points off each other, perhaps I can say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.663.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.692.1", "colnum": "692", "heading": "BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Read it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "preceding_text": "ance of payments for the first six months of 1964 and of the adverse balance of trade for the first eight months of 1964. The policy which was being pursued was right, in accordance with the terms of the speech made by the present Prime Minister at Swansea, in January, 1964. When the Prime Minister stated categorically on 23rd November that the crisis had been a crisis of confidence, he was right.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.692.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.697.0", "colnum": "697", "heading": "BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "Would the hon. Gentleman like to tell the Committee why the right hon. Member for Barnet (Mr. Maudling), when introducing his last Budget, made a promise to Parliament and the country that if action was required to correct his Budget proposals he would not hesitate to take it, that, first, he did not do so and—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.697.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.702.1", "colnum": "702", "heading": "BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "I shall give the same answer to that question as the Chancellor gave when he was on this side during our discussion of the last Finance Bill. What taxation is increased, and the nature of the taxation, is tip to the Government of the day to—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.702.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.703.0", "colnum": "703", "heading": "BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "It would be a very long list, because the difference between a Conservative Government and a Labour Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.703.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.703.0", "colnum": "703", "heading": "BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "It would be a very long list, because the difference between a Conservative Government and a Labour Government—[ Interruption. ]—is that in the great majority of Conservative Budgets taxation has come down, whereas—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.703.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.787.1", "colnum": "787", "heading": "BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "d. His hon. Friend the Member for Heywood and Royton was also worried about this point. I understand that in the Treasury these two taxes are known as the \"Cap\" and \"Cor\" taxes. When a Cockney realises how the Budget will hit him, he will say \"Cor! What a Budget!\" Some consumer taxation has been raised, but the sop to the Left-wing of the Labour Party is what has been done about business expenses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.787.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.791.1", "colnum": "791", "heading": "BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "y main criticism of the Budget is that it does nothing to help those in the community who are creating wealth. This nonsense about being envious and jealous of anybody who makes money or earns a high salary and thinking that he is a twister is as out of date as it is untrue. The pathological hatred that some members of the Government have for capitalism is so out of date that it should be dropped.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.791.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-08", "file": "debates1965-04-08a.xml", "sha256": "b8f527c513f085f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.796.1", "colnum": "796", "heading": "BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: It was discounted.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "urance companies, Hawker Siddeley and other great companies of that kind. They are the ones which will be changed by the Chancellor.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 7th April, 1965; Vol. 710, c. 499.] The general reaction today does not appear to have been the same as that suggested by the right hon. Gentleman. In fact, not a single one of the shares of the companies he mentioned has gone down in price at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-08a.796.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-12", "file": "debates1965-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "2c370ee12814f5cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1033.1", "colnum": "1033", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Milne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Milne", "preceding_text": "When people are employed and pay P.A.Y.E., and subsequently become unemployed, they are still liable to taxation at the level which the Chancellor decides.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1033.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-12", "file": "debates1965-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "2c370ee12814f5cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1074.0", "colnum": "1074", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Mr. Douglas Houghton)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Mr. Douglas Houghton)", "preceding_text": "In the right hon. Gentleman saying that the Labour Government are a spendthrift Government?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1074.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-12", "file": "debates1965-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "2c370ee12814f5cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1076.1", "colnum": "1076", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " only from a thriving industrial base, and this means policies which actively encourage and promote the capitalist system. The whole approach of this Budget, as always with Socialism, is one of restriction and suspicion. Because right hon. Gentlemen do not believe in capitalism in a country which is still predominantly capitalist, their fiscal and economic policies are incapable of making it work.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1076.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-12", "file": "debates1965-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "2c370ee12814f5cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1076.1", "colnum": "1076", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " is still predominantly capitalist, their fiscal and economic policies are incapable of making it work. [ Interruption. ] The consequences of the Budget should not be to inhibit, to restrict and to control. On the contrary, a Chancellor's purpose should be to fashion policies designed to release the energies of our industry and to stimulate the enterprise of our people. That is the way to compete.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1076.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-12", "file": "debates1965-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "2c370ee12814f5cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1077.1", "colnum": "1077", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "Indeed, if I may make a confession which I hope the Committee will take in the spirit in which it is proffered, I found the speeches so interesting that I did not myself prepare a speech. I therefore find myself having to make a speech onfy on the notes I then took—it will probably be a much better speech as a result. I should like to congratulate the hon. Member for Berwick, Roxburgh and Selkirk—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1077.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-12", "file": "debates1965-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "2c370ee12814f5cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1085.1", "colnum": "1085", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUDGET RESOLUTIONS AND ECONOMIC SITUATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "If I had thought it necessary to do it then, if I had been able to, I would have done it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1085.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-12", "file": "debates1965-04-12a.xml", "sha256": "2c370ee12814f5cd", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1127.2", "colnum": "1127", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING, GLASGOW", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Mabon", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Mabon", "preceding_text": "thin 12 months should be adding substantially to the combined output of Cumbernauld, East Kilbride and Glenrothes. The possibility of further new towns will be considered by the Scottish Economic Planning Council, and detailed studies are taking place in the Irvine area as to whether a further new town should be designated there. I hope that an announcement about that will be made reasonably soon.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-12a.1127.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1206.0", "colnum": "1206", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": ", and for that reason we would have come to the end of the line ourselves as well. It is this fact that no country of our size can any longer afford to produce the more sophisticated modern weapons for itself alone which makes so much nonsense of all the talk by right hon. Members opposite that, by co-operating with our allies or buying foreign equipment, we are somehow giving up our independence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1206.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1207.1", "colnum": "1207", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why was it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "phlet which was published in Smethwick by the Conservative candidate on the question of racial segregation. It is because they know in their hearts that what I have said is true that right hon. Gentlemen opposite have felt it necessary to attack not so much the decision that was taken as the way in which we announced it. I regret that it was necessary to make the announcement in the Budget speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1207.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1210.1", "colnum": "1210", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Julian Amery", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Julian Amery", "preceding_text": "the workers of the English Electric Company of the B.A.C. that he foresaw a long and useful life for this magnificent aircraft in a conventional rôle. He said: Mr. Amery is always spreading rumours that Labour will cancel the TSR2. I repudiate these rumours. Our position with the TSR2 is exactly the same as the Government's. If it works and does what is expected of it at a reasonable cost\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1210.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1218.1", "colnum": "1218", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Cronin", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"At this stage.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Cronin", "preceding_text": "hink that both the right hon. Member for Preston, North and the right hon. Member for Bedford have been excessively melancholic about the effects on the aircraft industry. It is time that hon. Gentlemen on that side of the House had a sense of proportion about this. The total number of people employed on the TSR2 represents less than 10 per cent. of the total labour force of the aircraft industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1218.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1225.1", "colnum": "1225", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Lionel Heald", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Lionel Heald", "preceding_text": " employment in that area. As our excellent local newspaper the Surrey Herald well said recently: The problem ahead of our area is of such formidable magnitude that no rapid assessment of it is possible. I was, therefore, very sorry to hear the hon. Member for Loughborough (Mr. Cronin) make such a very cold-blooded and unsympathetic assessment of that problem. The hon. Gentleman is not now present—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1225.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1230.1", "colnum": "1230", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Sir L. Heald", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. Heald", "preceding_text": "l for Second Reading on a recent Friday. I believe that the Leader of the House was short-circuited then. The matter was dealt with in such a way that he had no opportunity of exercising his elementary duty of protecting the rights of private Members. I believe that there may be people who do not appreciate that that is his duty. It is necessary to remind the House of the statement which was made—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1230.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1241.1", "colnum": "1241", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mahon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They achieved nothing.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mahon", "preceding_text": "ast throngs of aircraft workers which flowed into London were not here for beer and skittles. Feeling ran high. I was proud to lead the deputation to the Minister of Aviation. They presented their case with tremendous impact and honest argument. They moved the heart of London and impressed the Minister of Aviation with their lucid presentation of their case. No deputation could have achieved more.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1241.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1247.1", "colnum": "1247", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mahon", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mahon", "preceding_text": "I am not accountable for the leaflet. I am not even expected to say who did issue the leaflet. It is not my responsibility. I did not issue the leaflet. I did not cause it to be issued.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1247.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1248.4", "colnum": "1248", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. Gentleman does not know that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "This cancellation is more important in financial terms than many of the others, but I dare say that if we were to add up the 24 cancellations which were made by the Tory Government without an announcement being made to the House they would come to a lot more than the £125 million which has been spent on the TSR2.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1248.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1271.1", "colnum": "1271", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Sir William Robson Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir William Robson Brown", "preceding_text": "he American nation is great and understanding. I do not for the moment believe that it wants to drive our aircraft industry into the ground. It has the possibility, within the next few days, of showing and proving this in a most positive way. I urge the Minister of Aviation to give support to Dr. Barnes Wallis, in whom we have a British aviation genius of a kind never known in this country before.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1271.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1271.1", "colnum": "1271", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Sir William Robson Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, but the Tory Government did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir William Robson Brown", "preceding_text": "ve that it wants to drive our aircraft industry into the ground. It has the possibility, within the next few days, of showing and proving this in a most positive way. I urge the Minister of Aviation to give support to Dr. Barnes Wallis, in whom we have a British aviation genius of a kind never known in this country before. [ Interruption. ] Do hon. Members opposite want to denigrate Barnes Wallis?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1271.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1273.1", "colnum": "1273", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Angus Maude", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Angus Maude", "preceding_text": "nally, it was made even naughtier by the fact that, after it had been deliberately leaked to the Press and stated by the Chancellor of the Exchequer that the Defence Secretary would get up at 7 o'clock, he got up at twenty minutes past 6. I am glad that the right hon. Gentleman has now joined us. I am sure that he will not be in doubt as to what I have been saying about what happened on 6th April.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1273.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1279.1", "colnum": "1279", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maude", "preceding_text": "2 equipment. Is that right? I gather that the right hon. Gentleman mentioned no other alternative. Presumably the Secretary of State does not propose to leave the R.A.F. without any reconnaissance capability, because he said how important it was. Does this mean that he has decided to buy the TFX? Or is he, having cancelled the TSR2, leaving the R.A.F. without an adequate reconnaissance capability?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1279.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1281.0", "colnum": "1281", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mahon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mahon", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. If I deny that the leaflet was issued by me or that I had any responsibility for its issue, is it incumbent upon me to say who issued it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1281.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1282.1", "colnum": "1282", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Aviation (Mr. Roy Jenkins)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Aviation (Mr. Roy Jenkins)", "preceding_text": "yed throughout the day seems to fall under three main heads. First, they say that we have killed an aircraft which was the glory of British aviation achievement. Secondly, that we have made a bad bargain with the United States. Thirdly, that by so doing we have fatally weakened the British aircraft industry and impaired its ability to form a basis for Anglo-French and wider European collaboration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1282.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1282.1", "colnum": "1282", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Aviation (Mr. Roy Jenkins)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Aviation (Mr. Roy Jenkins)", "preceding_text": "ircraft industry and impaired its ability to form a basis for Anglo-French and wider European collaboration. [ Interruption. ] I hope that hon. Gentlemen opposite will let me try to answer the points which have been made which I think are worth answering. Those are the three main points which have been developed during the day. I leave aside the point about the way in which the statement was made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1282.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1282.1", "colnum": "1282", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Aviation (Mr. Roy Jenkins)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Aviation (Mr. Roy Jenkins)", "preceding_text": "y been given by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence. We were confronted with a development cost of £300 million—well over three times the original—and a production cost estimate which had more than doubled. The most important question that we had to ask ourselves was whether, in the matter of spiralling costs, we were at the end of the road. This was one of the major questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1282.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1284.1", "colnum": "1284", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "the fact that I wanted to try to deal with the three main points, and it would be a great deal better if I were allowed to answer the points in some sort of logical sequence. So much for the cost history of the project. I can summarise it by saying that at the quantity we would require we were left with the prospect of a cost of £6 million per aircraft—over a thousand times the cost of a Spitfire.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1284.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1284.1", "colnum": "1284", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "to do and looks like succeeding in doing with the F111. The TSR2 was a plane for the Royal Air Force, and the Royal Air Force alone. The export prospects were never bright. The Australians looked the most likely customers. They ceased to be so in late 1963. They opted for the Fl l 1 and they did so for four extremely hardheaded reasons which had nothing to do with the attitude of the Labour Party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1284.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1287.4", "colnum": "1287", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacMaster", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1287.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1287.5", "colnum": "1287", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "That fixed maximum is 20 per cent. less than the price at which we did all our comparative calculations with the TSR2.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1287.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1287.5", "colnum": "1287", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The Mark 2, not the Mark I.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "That fixed maximum is 20 per cent. less than the price at which we did all our comparative calculations with the TSR2. [ Interruption. ] Hon. Members really must make up their minds whether they are saying that we are getting the planes too cheap or too dear. They cannot have it both ways.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1287.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1287.5", "colnum": "1287", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "completely open-ended, without even a target price. Thirdly, escalation is less likely with the American plane. That is because the run is so much longer and because, if R. and D. costs on the avionics did escalate, we should have to pay only less than 10 per cent. of the total, and not the whole amount, as is the case with the TSR2. I do not want in the least to be unfair to the British industry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1287.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1289.1", "colnum": "1289", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Soames", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1289.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1289.4", "colnum": "1289", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": " week. Had we gone on further with the TSR2, all the incentive would have been to keep a need for the plane, and to keep a need for a very substantial number. With no orders it would have been totally impossible to justify the money we have spent. With a small number the costs per plane would have risen towards £10 million. We shall not leave the R.A.F. without the equipment it needs to discharge—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1289.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1289.4", "colnum": "1289", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "site complain that we did not continue with all three existing projects, as well as starting some new projects with the French—and the French showed no interest in any of the existing projects—I sometimes think that they must have taken leave of their financial senses. The budgetary commitments would have been quite impossible to sustain. Will the cancellation damage the British aircraft industry?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1289.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1292.1", "colnum": "1292", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Resign.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "There must be some changes, of course, and these changes will mean difficulties—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1292.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1292.1", "colnum": "1292", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Resign.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "There must be some changes, of course, and these changes will mean difficulties—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Resign.\"]—both for the firms and for their workers. As my right hon. Friend said this afternoon—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1292.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1292.4", "colnum": "1292", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Resign.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "No. The right hon. Gentleman knows perfectly well that it is not usual to disclose such prices. If it were so, why did the Government of the party opposite not disclose anything about the price of the Phantom? We heard nothing about that. Mr. Speaker, I ask the House to reject the Opposition's Motion. In putting it forward they are, I believe—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1292.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1292.4", "colnum": "1292", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIRCRAFT PROJECTS (CANCELLATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "sclose such prices. If it were so, why did the Government of the party opposite not disclose anything about the price of the Phantom? We heard nothing about that. Mr. Speaker, I ask the House to reject the Opposition's Motion. In putting it forward they are, I believe—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Resign.\"]—far out of touch with most opinion in the country. Nearly every newspaper with any claim to independence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1292.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-13", "file": "debates1965-04-13a.xml", "sha256": "550a29a5f167bc63", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1299.5", "colnum": "1299", "heading": "Clause 9.—(PENALTIES AND PROCEEDINGS FOR CERTAIN OFFENCES.)", "cue_speaker": "The Under-Secretary of State for Scotland (Dr. J. Dickson Mabon)", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "The Under-Secretary of State for Scotland (Dr. J. Dickson Mabon)", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said Amendment. Hon. Members will recollect that, during the Committee and Report stages—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-13a.1299.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1361.2", "colnum": "1361", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "them to the Chair and say why I think that they are important. We have just taken two major decisions: one in which the police officers have not been consulted—to which reference is made in the speech of the hon. Lady the Minister of State—and another in which I understand the prison officers have not been consulted. Also, I must make it clear that we are going right in the face of public opinion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1361.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1393.3", "colnum": "1393", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Shame.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willis", "preceding_text": "His predecessor was deputy chairman of the Independent Television Authority, a member of the Scottish Gas Board and a director of Fisons Ltd. In contrast, the employments held by Mr. Middleton are all unpaid.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1393.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1398.0", "colnum": "1398", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Dickson Mabon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"0h.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Dickson Mabon", "preceding_text": "I think that the hon. Gentleman is being characteristically rather unfair today—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1398.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1406.0", "colnum": "1406", "heading": "BROADCASTING FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Atkinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Atkinson", "preceding_text": "I am certain that my right hon. Friend will appreciate the terrible blow that this will be to pensioners and others. The premature comment from hon. Members opposite is completely out of place.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1406.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1406.0", "colnum": "1406", "heading": "BROADCASTING FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Atkinson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Atkinson", "preceding_text": "ours and pleasure which old people get from broadcasting as a whole. Would my right hon. Friend undertake to have a look at joining this new scheme of payment by stamps or weekly contributions through the Post Office, after consulting his right hon. Friend the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance, to a possible scheme which could be devised to help pensioners, infirm and handicapped people—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1406.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1406.1", "colnum": "1406", "heading": "BROADCASTING FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "preceding_text": "As my hon. Friend will realise, the possibility of special relief for pensioners was very much in my mind. I have examined it carefully, but it simply is not practicable to do it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1406.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1429.0", "colnum": "1429", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Daniel Awdry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Daniel Awdry", "preceding_text": "I think that I am the first Member to speak on the Bill now who was not a member of the Committee on the Bill.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1429.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1441.2", "colnum": "1441", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Brewis", "preceding_text": "I am not entirely with my hon. Friend on this point. Is he proposing to allow these businesses to expand in the South? Will not that undoubtedly bring people down from Scotland and the North, which surely is the last thing we wish to do?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1441.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1457.2", "colnum": "1457", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Order.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "preceding_text": "y sites without having to go to all the rigmarole of the I.D.C. procedure, and that this was a necessary corollary of the effective policy of trying to persuade these firms to move to development districts by linking with big, capital-intensive, basic firms which provide the raw materials, a number of small firms. The impact of the Budget last week will reduce the effectiveness of that inducement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1457.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1476.4", "colnum": "1476", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "f inadequacy of the present town planning legislation which has shown this new legislation to be necessary. I hope it is not true, as I think was said, that we are to have a series of Amendments to select areas here, there and everywhere for exemption, for then this Amendment would be revealed for what I suspected it to be, not a serious Amendment at all but purely a factious, delaying opposition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1476.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1516.0", "colnum": "1516", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1516.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1524.0", "colnum": "1524", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "preceding_text": ", because in the provincial parts of Britain there are a great many hard-headed businessmen, many of them in a relatively small way of business, who are not familiar with all the forms which the Board of Trade provides. They do not like filling out forms. I admit to not liking doing that myself. We are positively frightened by all the buff forms from the Board of Trade. I had these things in mind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1524.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1556.1", "colnum": "1556", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacColl", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacColl", "preceding_text": "My right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government is a humble man—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1556.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1562.3", "colnum": "1562", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Channon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Carry on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Channon", "preceding_text": "s, because in the case of office development permits there is no effective appeal. In planning procedure there is an appeal to the Minister, and very different issues of principle arise. The Minister argued in Committee that to pass this Amendment might be against the interests of the applicant. I am delighted that so many hon. Members have come into the Chamber to give me vocal and moral support.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1562.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1568.4", "colnum": "1568", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Channon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Channon", "preceding_text": "I have dealt with No. 13 and I do not intend to weary the hon. Member for Brixton (Mr. Lipton) any further. These are very modest Amendments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1568.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1576.6", "colnum": "1576", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The last 13?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "preceding_text": "With great respect, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, if hon. Members opposite were slightly less obtrusive perhaps one would be able to take less notice of them. The problem of Ministerial decision, which is an inescapable function of Government, is one which has caused grave difficulties and grave problems over many years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1576.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1577.1", "colnum": "1577", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "preceding_text": " was set up to examine Ministers' powers. In the view of many people, that time represented the high water mark of the encroachment of the powers of the Executive upon the life of the individual. After that Committee reported, many things were not done in implementing its recommendations for a number of years but it represented a recognition of the serious problems which this difficulty throws up.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1577.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1577.1", "colnum": "1577", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "preceding_text": ", that time represented the high water mark of the encroachment of the powers of the Executive upon the life of the individual. After that Committee reported, many things were not done in implementing its recommendations for a number of years but it represented a recognition of the serious problems which this difficulty throws up. [ Interruption. ] I have some difficulty in developing my argument.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1577.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1577.1", "colnum": "1577", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "preceding_text": "reported, many things were not done in implementing its recommendations for a number of years but it represented a recognition of the serious problems which this difficulty throws up. [ Interruption. ] I have some difficulty in developing my argument. [ Interruption. ] The problem of trying to reconcile Ministerial decisions and the inevitable powers that Ministers must have to implement policies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1577.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1578.0", "colnum": "1578", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Finish it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "preceding_text": "had the experience of an application of mine being rejected. But in every case, I am happy to say, when I was responsible for pursuing these applications, we always got the answer \"Yes\". Like, in a sense, the young lady who returned from a foreign country and was asked what the Chinese for \"Yes\" was—it was China she had returned from—and she said she did not know, because she had always said \"No.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1577.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1580.1", "colnum": "1580", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Darling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Darling", "preceding_text": "If I am in order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, in explaining why the Government carried the Division only by the casting vote of the Chairman, it was because the Opposition refused a pair to my right hon. Friend so that he could carry on with Cabinet business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1580.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1590.5", "colnum": "1590", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "preceding_text": " and would not normally be expected to be in contract with themselves, they should be able to follow the same procedure as that announced by the First Secretary. We did not deal with this section of people in Committee. I admit that it is a small section, but we did not consider the point at all. As the Government have no desire to leave such a case out, I hope that they will accept the Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1590.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1590.5", "colnum": "1590", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "preceding_text": " able to follow the same procedure as that announced by the First Secretary. We did not deal with this section of people in Committee. I admit that it is a small section, but we did not consider the point at all. As the Government have no desire to leave such a case out, I hope that they will accept the Amendment. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear!\"] We are attempting to make as much progress as possible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1590.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1592.0", "colnum": "1592", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "preceding_text": "I thank the right hon. Gentleman for those assurances. He will realise the difficulties in which one finds oneself when trying to define a person who enters into a contract with himself. That is exactly the position of a person who is developing on his own land—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1592.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1592.0", "colnum": "1592", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "preceding_text": "ch one finds oneself when trying to define a person who enters into a contract with himself. That is exactly the position of a person who is developing on his own land—[ Interruption ]—and is his own building contractor. It was to get this matter considered by the House that the Amendment was worded in the way it appears. I thank the right hon. Gentleman once again for the assurances he has given—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1592.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1592.2", "colnum": "1592", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "Does the hon. Gentleman wish to withdraw the Amendment?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1592.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1592.3", "colnum": "1592", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "preceding_text": "I did, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. We are in a rather surprising position. The Minister gave certain assurances, yet hon. Gentlemen opposite have been paying so little attention to what has been going on that they are attempting to frustrate the general speed of progress.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1592.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-14", "file": "debates1965-04-14a.xml", "sha256": "751876c1d90bf017", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1608.4", "colnum": "1608", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Johnson Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Johnson Smith", "preceding_text": "t of this need and—this is a very important point—that it somehow does not seem geared to harmonise with the policy of the local authorities and planning authorities. What is feared is that no development whatever will be allowed. I hope that it will be possible for the Minister of State to allay, if not altogether remove, these fears. Finally, in case it is thought that I have been too parochial—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-14a.1608.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-15", "file": "debates1965-04-15a.xml", "sha256": "aec818289ab1044c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-15a.1636.2", "colnum": "1636", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — KODAK LTD.", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Orbach", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Orbach", "preceding_text": "I thank my right hon. and learned Friend for that reply, although from my point of view it is not very satisfactory.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-15a.1636.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-15", "file": "debates1965-04-15a.xml", "sha256": "aec818289ab1044c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-15a.1640.2", "colnum": "1640", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "All the investment allowance has not gone. It is merely been somewhat diminished, but it is still there—and on some argument it has not even been diminished.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-15a.1640.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-15", "file": "debates1965-04-15a.xml", "sha256": "aec818289ab1044c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-15a.1687.1", "colnum": "1687", "heading": "SCHOOL BUILDING (MINOR WORKS PROGRAMME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Prentice", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No. Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Prentice", "preceding_text": "like an attempt to justify this extraordinary claim that is made that we have cut the Conservative Party's programme. I have told the House what the previous Government's programme was. We are told that it might not have been final, and might have been increased if they happened to have won the election. I know, and I have said, that the figure that the late Government had in mind was £19 million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-15a.1687.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.9.2", "colnum": "9", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer the supplementary question then.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "preceding_text": "I have answered the Question on the Paper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.9.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.14.0", "colnum": "14", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A poor reply.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "I think it would be accepted that the unsettled way of life of these people and their lack of industrial experience do not make it easy always to fix them up with jobs in industrial employment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.14.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.17.7", "colnum": "17", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "Nonsense.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.17.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.56.3", "colnum": "56", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "m that. I am returning to his specific point. I shall tell him precisely why we developed in the way we did. As to the industrial training boards, I make it clear, and repeat to the House, for the benefit of the Minister, that we look forward to seeing some great progress from him there. Although we do not expect his party to proceed as rapidly as we did, we do at least expect some great progress.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.56.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.56.3", "colnum": "56", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It took 13 years to do it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": " the way we did. As to the industrial training boards, I make it clear, and repeat to the House, for the benefit of the Minister, that we look forward to seeing some great progress from him there. Although we do not expect his party to proceed as rapidly as we did, we do at least expect some great progress. [ Interruption .] It is not 13 years since that Bill was passed into law. It is six months.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.56.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.56.3", "colnum": "56", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "this together. It is true that my predecessor was considering this and discussing it. We came up against a great deal of conflicting advice and consideration from both sides of industry in relation to this. After very full consideration, we came down firmly last summer on the side of wage-related benefits. We completed our consultations at this time and we were ready to prepare a Bill at the time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.56.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.57.0", "colnum": "57", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is the Bill?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "onsultations at this time and we were ready to prepare a Bill at the time. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] That is certainly so. It must be within the knowledge of Ministers at present on the Front Bench that these discussions had been completed and that we had had agreement with both sides of industry in July of last year. The right hon. Lady the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance looks indignant.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.56.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.57.3", "colnum": "57", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "The right hon. Gentleman implied it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "No, I did not say that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.57.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.58.6", "colnum": "58", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "I have given the information in regard to the point about which the right hon. Lady asked me. I said that we had had these discussions. This is perfectly well-known to many of the trade union leaders who were present at some of these discussions which I and the right hon. Lady's predecessor attended. We had these discussions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.58.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.58.6", "colnum": "58", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "nt about which the right hon. Lady asked me. I said that we had had these discussions. This is perfectly well-known to many of the trade union leaders who were present at some of these discussions which I and the right hon. Lady's predecessor attended. We had these discussions. [HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"] I have said that they took place last year, the last one in July of last year. That was the time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.58.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.64.1", "colnum": "64", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "I must make this matter clear. I thought that I had already done SO.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.64.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.64.1", "colnum": "64", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "full discussions and there had been agreement from both sides of industry that wage-related benefit should precede redundancy pay. This was the point on which there was agreement. The level at which it should go forward and the way in which it should be done was, of course, a matter for the Government of the day. We had no agreement on the precise terms. Of course we had not, but we had agreement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.64.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.68.1", "colnum": "68", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "them to him for what comfort they may give him. Before I come to the details of the Bill, I make one further general point on the question of redundancy caused by Government action. There will be such redundancy. Only recently, we have had the critical case involving aircraft workers, and similar events could occur again. Changes of policy can occur whatever Government are in power. I accept that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.68.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.69.1", "colnum": "69", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "kes can no longer be defined in relation to breach of contract, it is surely not beyond the wit of parliamentary draftsmen to define them in other terms. What is unacceptable is that when new benefits are given in relation to continuous service with an employer it should be expressly provided that continuity of such service is unaffected even by the most irresponsible unofficial strike. We do not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.69.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.69.1", "colnum": "69", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "ion .] I was quoting the employers' point of view. The Opposition's point of view in regard to these matters has been made abundantly clear in the Standing Committee considering the Trade Disputes Bill, where we have gone into very great detail. We do not believe that it helps the Minister or anyone else to appear—if it is only \"appear\"—to be encouraging an unofficial strike and unofficial action.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.69.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.129.1", "colnum": "129", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "preceding_text": "That is an extraordinary utterance from a member of the Labour Party. He must have been living in a private world for the last 20 years if it has not dawned on him that we have had a sellers' market in labour all that time. The trade unions have been in such a powerful bargaining position that they could have extracted whatever terms they liked.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.129.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.130.2", "colnum": "130", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "preceding_text": "ement from his own Ministry? This is what the Ministry of Labour said in its Gazette of April, 1963. It said that the A.F.L.C.I.O.—the American equivalent to the T.U.C.—estimates that 25 per cent. of current agreements provide for severance pay and that they cover 35 per cent. of the workers covered by collective agreements. One-third of the working-class, in other words, is covered by agreements—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.130.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.141.1", "colnum": "141", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": " although we endorse now, as we have advocated in the past, the extension of these redundancy arrangements, it was at no time our view that such arrangements should take the place of wage-related unemployment benefit. It was never the intention of my right hon. Friend to introduce such a Bill as this unless it were as part of a comprehensive system which included wage-related unemployment benefit.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.141.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.143.1", "colnum": "143", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "At least I was able to hear the right hon. Gentleman's intervention, and it is quite easy to deal with because we put our solution to this question clearly in our election manifesto, namely, that we would introduce as a separate operation wage-related unemployment and wage-related sickness benefits. That was our position, clear-cut, and it is in the document which I have in my hand.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.143.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.143.3", "colnum": "143", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "een said, can be quite high—as much as £1,200 at the maximum and not infrequently as much as £600—is to be paid for dismissal on redundancy quite regardless of whether the dismissed employee goes straight to another job which is even better in the same locality. The payment is the same whether the man is put at a severe and long-lasting disadvantage or is lucky and actually advances his condition.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.143.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.146.3", "colnum": "146", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "The point was that they should be conceived as part of an integral whole.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.146.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-26", "file": "debates1965-04-26a.xml", "sha256": "444e6b45a4e88c1c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.148.2", "colnum": "148", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "In that case, I thought better of the right hon. Gentleman than he deserves. But if he really began with a Bill which started at the age of 18—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-26a.148.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-27", "file": "debates1965-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "04b2e91e551a2926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-27a.204.7", "colnum": "204", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "That is a series of questions which, in my opinion, should more properly be put down as separate questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-27a.204.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-27", "file": "debates1965-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "04b2e91e551a2926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-27a.207.3", "colnum": "207", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "The trouble with hon. Members opposite is that they—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-27a.207.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-27", "file": "debates1965-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "04b2e91e551a2926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-27a.225.0", "colnum": "225", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. It was quite clear to everybody—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-27a.225.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-27", "file": "debates1965-04-27a.xml", "sha256": "04b2e91e551a2926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-27a.225.3", "colnum": "225", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I thought that I had called the hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-27a.225.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-28", "file": "debates1965-04-28a.xml", "sha256": "6c2d81379d44fa92", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.429.1", "colnum": "429", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RAILWAYS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "It is the intention and determination of the Railways Board not to use any taxpayers' money to finance a deficit. At the moment the railway workshops are not financedby—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.429.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-28", "file": "debates1965-04-28a.xml", "sha256": "6c2d81379d44fa92", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.429.1", "colnum": "429", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RAILWAYS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "It is the intention and determination of the Railways Board not to use any taxpayers' money to finance a deficit. At the moment the railway workshops are not financedby—[ Interruption .] Financing of a deficit by the Treasury—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.429.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-28", "file": "debates1965-04-28a.xml", "sha256": "6c2d81379d44fa92", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.435.6", "colnum": "435", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Quite right.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman seems to be forgetting the history of this situation. At one time, there was great public discussion about the possibility of Dr. Beeching taking on this job. It was quite clear that Dr. Beeching did not intend to do it as a temporary civil servant —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.435.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-28", "file": "debates1965-04-28a.xml", "sha256": "6c2d81379d44fa92", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.448.2", "colnum": "448", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EXECUTORS", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Elwyn Jones)", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Elwyn Jones)", "preceding_text": "A person who agrees to act as executor of a will acquires rights and assumes obligations which are enforceable in the courts, and in case of any difficulty would be well advised to consult a solicitor—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.448.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-28", "file": "debates1965-04-28a.xml", "sha256": "6c2d81379d44fa92", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.516.1", "colnum": "516", "heading": "COMMONS REGISTRATION BILL [Lords]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mills", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mills", "preceding_text": " to give me some reassurance on this matter. I do not want the small moorland farmer to be squeezed out because others have claimed their rights on the moors. The village green, in which I am very interested, is an important part of village life. I look back to happy times on the village green. One recalls one's early days when one was courting, and long may the village greens be preserved!", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.516.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-28", "file": "debates1965-04-28a.xml", "sha256": "6c2d81379d44fa92", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.524.1", "colnum": "524", "heading": "COMMONS REGISTRATION BILL [Lords]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "d has specifically asked me—that it is our intention to legislate broadly on the lines of those recommendations\"— as contained in the Report of the Royal Commission— as soon as Parliamentary time permits.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 10th February, 1964; Vol. 689, c. 180.] That was the crux of the matter. During the lifetime of the last Government, we had grave and important Bills to take through the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-28a.524.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.601.7", "colnum": "601", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sheldon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sheldon", "preceding_text": "Is my hon. Friend aware that the Cunard Company is receiving something over £17 million of public money and that many of the decisions being taken on the interior design are being made by a person with no obvious qualifications other than that she happens to be the wife of the Chairman of the Cunard Company?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.601.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.622.1", "colnum": "622", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "udy the words which I used. I said that in so far as it is in any sense, to use the rather loose phrase, \"a finger on the trigger\", there is certainly no proposal to give anyone extra power so far as the movement of the trigger is concerned. In other words, Germany and other non-nuclear Powers would have no power to initiate nuclear action. As regards the agreement on targeting and nuclear policy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.622.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.626.4", "colnum": "626", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Support of the Atlantic Alliance has always been the policy of this party, and we have had very fruitful discussions on this question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.626.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.626.4", "colnum": "626", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Support of the Atlantic Alliance has always been the policy of this party, and we have had very fruitful discussions on this question. [ Interruption. ] It does not lie in the mouths of hon. Members opposite to talk about questions of major disagreement when their own Front Bench is now divided even on the question of European—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.626.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.632.4", "colnum": "632", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about the White Paper on steel?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "We have only just received the second interim Report from the Select Committee on Procedure and I think that we ought to wait a little while before debating it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.632.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.657.1", "colnum": "657", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Richard Crossman)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Richard Crossman)", "preceding_text": "have heard allegations this afternoon that 300,000 people will be denied houses in the coming year by the failure of the programme. We have heard about sales of homes grinding to a halt, and last night, though I did not see him on the television, we had the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition making one of his classic simplifications: \"Under Socialism you cannot even get a mortgage\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.657.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.661.5", "colnum": "661", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Beamish", "preceding_text": "Sir T. Beamish rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.661.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.661.6", "colnum": "661", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "00 in 1964. True enough, before this latest trouble started, the house purchaser, like everyone else, was sharing the burden of high interest rates, and I had to tell the young married couple who had been looking forward to our new reduced interest rates for their home loans that they would have to wait some months, probably until this Session is over, before we can pass the necessary legislation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.661.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.662.1", "colnum": "662", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " a shortage of clients to borrow capital but a shortage of capital due, and I agree with the right hon. Gentleman here, to a transfer of the capital to more profitable spheres. On that point I think we can agree where the difficulty lies. As I say, it lies in the transfer of capital from the building societies to other temporarily profitable spheres of investment, local government loans and so on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.662.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.662.1", "colnum": "662", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " confirmed in my talks with the builders. They told me quite simply that now that they are no longer assured that mortgages will automatically be available, as they have been for the last few years, their programmes must automatically be cut back. Estimates of the cutbacks vary a good deal from builder to builder, partly according to their sense of drama and partly according to political prejudice", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.662.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.669.1", "colnum": "669", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "ted to deal with it. The miseries of decontrol will soon be removed by our new Rent Bill. The massive campaign for improving old buildings has been intensified. The frustration of council house building will soon be ended. What remains is the most difficult task of all—the linking together of the private and the public sectors so that both can go forward together in a single coherent national plan", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.669.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.669.1", "colnum": "669", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "en the Government and their partners in the industry. I believe the building industry and the building societies are also ready. I am encouraged by the beginning of talks to find it is so. All we need is a Government which has the courage to take decisions but who also believe in acting in genuine partnership with all those concerned. It is in this spirit that I ask the House to reject the Motion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.669.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.684.1", "colnum": "684", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. T. Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He is against the Government.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. T. Williams", "preceding_text": "Save for some of his digressions, I do not really disagree with very much that was said by the hon. Member for Bodmin (Mr. Bessell), nor do I think that we should consider only the long-term answers. But the hon. Gentleman did not, of course, tell us what is of some interest—whether or not he is for us or against us on this Motion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.684.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.687.3", "colnum": "687", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Williams", "preceding_text": " information. If that had been done, this problem would not have arisen. The fact is that the building societies financially are still enormously strong. But they are in a difficult situation because they have too much liquidity. If, faced with difficulties, they had maintained the situation and continued lending they would have been in a better position to come to the Government and ask for help.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.687.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.687.3", "colnum": "687", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Williams", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Williams", "preceding_text": "ties financially are still enormously strong. But they are in a difficult situation because they have too much liquidity. If, faced with difficulties, they had maintained the situation and continued lending they would have been in a better position to come to the Government and ask for help. [ Interruption. ] Faced with a temporary difficult situation, one must meet it with extraordinary measures.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.687.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.689.1", "colnum": "689", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter (Kingston-upon-Thames)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter (Kingston-upon-Thames)", "preceding_text": "he Exchequer about the rôle which Exchequer finance could play in a national housing plan. That is all we had. In view of the situation about which evidence has been given by people completely independent of political allegiance, it is clear that the housing programme is faced with a most serious situation this year. That was a very remarkable attitude for the responsible Minister to adopt.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.689.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.697.1", "colnum": "697", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. John Diamond)", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. John Diamond)", "preceding_text": "It is because I share many of the sentiments expressed by the right hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter) about the desirability of home ownership, a sentiment which is shared by hon. Members on both sides of the Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.697.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.697.1", "colnum": "697", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. John Diamond)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. John Diamond)", "preceding_text": "e I share the sentiments expressed by the right hon. Member that I wanted to say how glad I was to hear him repeat those phrases, and how sorry I was that in the course of a 25-minute speech he did not suggest one thing which would help. There was not even the suspicion of a policy, no idea at all of what he would do, or what we should do, beyond requesting the resignation of my right hon. Friend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.697.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.699.4", "colnum": "699", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": " only call an enormous spring flush, and intend—as has been suggested by the hon. Member who is a director both of a building society and a building company—to lend the same amount and to build the same amount during the course of that year as was lent and built in the previous year, it follows that the graph, which has been going up, must level out and, indeed, come down for the rest of the year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.699.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.699.4", "colnum": "699", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "caused the present situation, in terms both of the falling off in funds and of high rates. The same answer applies to both. It is the lack of confidence in building societies. It is not the lack of deposits made with the building societies. The societies have continued to receive a very full share of their normal deposits. What has happened is that withdrawals have increased out of all proportion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.699.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.699.4", "colnum": "699", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "have continued to receive a very full share of their normal deposits. What has happened is that withdrawals have increased out of all proportion.[HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] I am coming to that. Withdrawals have increased because the very large depositors with building societies have withdrawn their deposits, in search of higher rates which they can get elsewhere, particularly from the local authorities", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.699.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.699.4", "colnum": "699", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "that. Withdrawals have increased because the very large depositors with building societies have withdrawn their deposits, in search of higher rates which they can get elsewhere, particularly from the local authorities [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] They are getting higher rates from the local authorities because funds which were previously available from abroad to lend to local authorities have gone back.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.699.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.701.1", "colnum": "701", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman's recollection is not all that good. What the right hon. Gentleman should recollect is that he told the whole of the Conservative Party that as from October or November, 1963, the only thing that mattered was winning the next election. What did not matter was protecting the £. What did not matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.701.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.701.1", "colnum": "701", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman's recollection is not all that good. What the right hon. Gentleman should recollect is that he told the whole of the Conservative Party that as from October or November, 1963, the only thing that mattered was winning the next election. What did not matter was protecting the £. What did not matter—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw\"]—was protecting the £ and our credit.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.701.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.701.1", "colnum": "701", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "n. What did not matter was protecting the £. What did not matter—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw\"]—was protecting the £ and our credit. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"] When a country is overspending to the extent of £750 million, with reserves of about £900 million, it is not surprising, is it, that when foreign countries find out the facts they have doubts about the stability of the economy of this country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.701.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.701.1", "colnum": "701", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "our credit. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"] When a country is overspending to the extent of £750 million, with reserves of about £900 million, it is not surprising, is it, that when foreign countries find out the facts they have doubts about the stability of the economy of this country—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—they have doubts about its ability to pay its debts? As everybody knows, it was that situation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.701.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.702.2", "colnum": "702", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Godfrey Nicholson", "preceding_text": "Sir Godfrey Nicholson (Farnham) rose—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.702.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.702.3", "colnum": "702", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "That is a temporary situation, because we are taking all the necessary steps to restore the strength of the £—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.702.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.702.3", "colnum": "702", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Stop.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "decided that a further measure of control is needed. The Government are determined that the expansion of the economy, which is evidenced in all the economic indicators, should proceed in a controlled manner. The call for special deposits takes its place among the other measures which the Government are promoting and, in particular, will assist to realise the Government's prices and incomes policy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.702.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.704.2", "colnum": "704", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "Of course it does not exist; of course it is \"phoney\". That is my whole point. It is a pure \"phoney\" in order to make political capital and to discredit the building societies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.704.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.732.1", "colnum": "732", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "ibunal. After the matter has been to the Lands Tribunal and the corporation finds that the conditions have been varied, it can alter the terms and the developer can appeal against those terms. This is nothing new. If a person applies for town planning permission under the general law and his application is turned down, he can vary his application. I want to give others the opportunity of speaking.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.732.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.741.3", "colnum": "741", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Burden", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Burden", "preceding_text": "I cannot give way to the hon. Member again. It is also the ratepayer's money which is involved in this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.741.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.743.5", "colnum": "743", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Burden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Burden", "preceding_text": "eased production of open-fire fuels which should materially improve the situation predicted in the White Paper. He also said: These prospects … indicate that supplies of open-grate fuels should be adequate to meet expected demand, although consumers may sometimes have to buy more expensive varieties a reactive fuel when their first preference would be the cheaper gas cokes. That was issued—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.743.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-04-29", "file": "debates1965-04-29a.xml", "sha256": "7ed0a2ef6fe29604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.762.0", "colnum": "762", "heading": "CLASS VI", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "I would have thought—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-04-29a.762.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-03", "file": "debates1965-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "04cc0d0e3b04df0a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.948.0", "colnum": "948", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "That is a smart question. I can only say to any representative of the Liberal Party that any Bill that extends the frontiers of the criminal law can properly be described by anyone who has any liberal instincts left in him as affecting millions of our people —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.948.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-03", "file": "debates1965-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "04cc0d0e3b04df0a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.948.2", "colnum": "948", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "m to take a particular attitude, with the criminal law then in the background, will lead to very considerable difficulties. If the right hon. and learned Gentleman has studied these matters—as I am sure he has, or will—he will find that in countries where this type of approach has been tried a clear distinction is made between the criminal solution, on the one hand, and the civil, or conciliation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.948.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-03", "file": "debates1965-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "04cc0d0e3b04df0a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.951.1", "colnum": "951", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "uses, flats—the whole lot—one isolated possible instance, a licence to sub-let. It produces the remarkable proposition that, while in no circumstances should a landlord be asked to share a bathroom with a Pakistani, he can make his tenants do so. That is what the Clause does. It is a most astonishing bit of legislation. A Clause which produces that result in its proviso requires close examination.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.951.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-03", "file": "debates1965-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "04cc0d0e3b04df0a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.1041.5", "colnum": "1041", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What machinery?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": "No, it does not mean anything of the kind. I was saying that there would be many cases in which there could be actions in which the conciliation machinery might be resorted to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.1041.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-03", "file": "debates1965-05-03a.xml", "sha256": "04cc0d0e3b04df0a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.1044.1", "colnum": "1044", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not Ghana?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": " great many constitutional conferences at Lancaster House and Marlborough House in which we have drawn up constitutions for the various African States as they have reached their independence. In every one of those constitutions there is a provision which endeavours, at any rate, to outlaw discrimination. If I may take an example, I will take it from the law of Nigeria, a country which I know well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-03a.1044.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-04", "file": "debates1965-05-04a.xml", "sha256": "5622da878fce4e7c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1087.3", "colnum": "1087", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. One can be as wrong as anybody else, but sitting here listening, my recollection is that the Minister said it was a different question—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1087.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-04", "file": "debates1965-05-04a.xml", "sha256": "5622da878fce4e7c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1092.0", "colnum": "1092", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "As regards the second part of that question, the hon. Member obviously still does not understand that the Corporation Tax will have the effect of increasing the attraction of foreign investment in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1092.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-04", "file": "debates1965-05-04a.xml", "sha256": "5622da878fce4e7c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1094.3", "colnum": "1094", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "hat he himself does not know the real position. We all agree that the actual funds coming forward in the first quarter were only £1 million less, but is the Chancellor not aware—as he listened to last week's debate he must be—that withdrawals were £66 million more? This is a fact which he overlooks entirely. What is more, is the right hon. Gentleman aware that one of the major insurance companies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1094.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-04", "file": "debates1965-05-04a.xml", "sha256": "5622da878fce4e7c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1095.5", "colnum": "1095", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Buy one.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kitson", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. and learned Gentleman aware that the last time I asked the B.B.C. for the transcript of a Minister's speech it offered me a tape? Does he not think that it would be very much more satisfactory if back bench Members had a tape recorder on which to play these tapes?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1095.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-04", "file": "debates1965-05-04a.xml", "sha256": "5622da878fce4e7c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1104.3", "colnum": "1104", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROME (PRIME MINISTER'S VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I remember once raising this question from the other side of the House. If we are to be told that we must join the Common Market because then we will not be free to decide to take into public ownership any industry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1104.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-04", "file": "debates1965-05-04a.xml", "sha256": "5622da878fce4e7c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1108.6", "colnum": "1108", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SOUTH VIETNAMESE CADETS (TRAINING)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "Is the Prime Minister aware that both his Government and my Government have accepted that we must assist—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1108.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-04", "file": "debates1965-05-04a.xml", "sha256": "5622da878fce4e7c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1118.0", "colnum": "1118", "heading": "PARLIAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "eel; 6 oil; and the usual Tory \"beerage\" amounting to 6—a genuine cross-section of the British public. One of them, Lord Strathalmond, took his seat in April, 1955. He had not opened his mouth for 10 years. Maybe there were good reasons for that. It may be that the reasons were just as good as those for which he attended on 13th April, because he was, until last December, a director of Burmah Oil—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1117.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-04", "file": "debates1965-05-04a.xml", "sha256": "5622da878fce4e7c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1249.5", "colnum": "1249", "heading": "AIRPORTS AUTHORITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Channon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. Member is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Channon", "preceding_text": "ot asking that the Minister shall consult Southend local authority, because Southend will not be covered by the Bill as the Amendment relating to Southend has been rejected. The Bill merely enables the Minister to deal with these four airports. Why make such heavy weather of the Amendment? Why not accept it quickly and then get on to the main Amendment? This waste of time is absolutely ridiculous.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-04a.1249.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1356.2", "colnum": "1356", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not change it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "preceding_text": "This principle has been accepted since the beginning of broadcasting—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1356.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1358.9", "colnum": "1358", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "preceding_text": "ite out of date because of the Government's policies since then and that this is a shockingly complacent Answer? Is he not aware that in the past few weeks several building firms have been told to reduce their working overdrafts and that the inevitable result will be fewer houses and unemployment? If he is not prepared to have regard to the voice of Scotland, as expressed in yesterday's elections—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1358.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1364.1", "colnum": "1364", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "lled borough of Hounslow, the increase is 39 per cent. or 2s. 10d. in the £. If, therefore, it is to be argued that this is all the result of the reorganisation of local government, it casts a somewhat damaging reflection on the Socialist administration of boroughs that the reorganisation of Socialist boroughs apparently is a more expensive process than the reorganisation of Conservative boroughs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1364.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1369.1", "colnum": "1369", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "Of course I will. I made it at the Conservative Party confcrence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1369.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1372.1", "colnum": "1372", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member is perfectly entitled to ask that question. What I am saying is that this was an idea which we were studying and which now falls to be the responsibility of the Government to handle and I want to know the Government's views on it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1372.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1375.1", "colnum": "1375", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Robert Mellish)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Robert Mellish)", "preceding_text": "performer. What I have always admired about him is that he has the capacity to talk on any subject at any time and to take any viewpoint which one cares to mention, doing it all at the drop of a hat. That he, of all people, should be the leading Opposition spokesman to talk today about sympathy for old people and the appalling problems which rates have put upon their backs I find quite disgusting.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1375.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1375.1", "colnum": "1375", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Robert Mellish)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Robert Mellish)", "preceding_text": "] I shall show why. I shall give the record of the party opposite when the right hon. Gentleman and his hon. Friends were in a position to do something about it, but did precisely nothing. I intend to put on record quite clearly what they did. There are three reasons why we are having this debate today. It is not that there is any sympathy or affection for old people on that side of the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1375.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1375.3", "colnum": "1375", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": "No, not for the moment. I shall get on with my speech and then I shall give way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1375.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1376.0", "colnum": "1376", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mellish", "preceding_text": " had that synthetic, bogus speech from the right hon. Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath), who suddenly discovered that he had an affection for people who wanted to borrow money to buy homes. The third reason why we are having the debate is that, in spite of the many unpopular measures—I admit it—that this Government have had to take, the Conservative Party is still doing very badly in the Gallup polls.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1376.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1391.4", "colnum": "1391", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Julian Ridsdale", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Where are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Julian Ridsdale", "preceding_text": "7 per cent. Clearly, some action must be taken very soon. In the meantime, all the Government do is to appoint a committee to look into the financing of local government. Surely enough evidence is available for them. When will the Government review be completed? Is this review just a ruse to buy time because of the Government's failure to run the country's finances properly. The Liberals' panacea—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1391.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1432.1", "colnum": "1432", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "ill find it quite impossible to substantiate the age-old repetition of \"You have not done it\". I notice already that when we do not do something we are chided but that when we do something, according to what one right hon. Member said yesterday, we are taking the Prime Minister off the hook. All is fair in politics, but I must warn hon. Members opposite that we are doing something about the rates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1432.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2", "colnum": "1471", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "preceding_text": " married couples who are forced to pay fantastically exorbitant prices when they buy a house and then find, after being saddled with tremendous repayments on the mortgage, that the rates are spiralling up as well. Many of these young people who are aspiring to become owner-occupiers, as so many of them are in my constituency, are in dire difficulties. Therefore, there is need for tremendous speed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2", "colnum": "1471", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "preceding_text": "well. Many of these young people who are aspiring to become owner-occupiers, as so many of them are in my constituency, are in dire difficulties. Therefore, there is need for tremendous speed. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I am glad hon. Members opposite give me support on this. I am certain that this is a sentiment of concern for owner-occupiers which is not confined to one side of the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2", "colnum": "1471", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Drop steel.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "preceding_text": "and since I have become a Member I have been struck by the amount of time that we waste here when we could be getting on with the job. If hon. Members opposite are so concerned about helping my right hon. Friends to get through the sort of changes which are required to deal with the rating problem, I hope that they will help us to speed through some of the other legislation which is very pressing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2", "colnum": "1471", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh, no.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "preceding_text": " do, but destructive criticism is not what is called for. As a new Member of the House, I had hoped that we should have a much better show, and I was at least glad that some of his hon. Friends put forward some constructive suggestions which contrasted sadly with the negative contribution made by the right hon. Gentleman himself. There are two further points which have some bearing on the problem.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2", "colnum": "1471", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stan Newens", "preceding_text": "MBERS: \"Oh, no.\"] One factor which has greatly increased the charges on local authorities is the tremendous increase in the price of land. I look forward to the Measures which are being prepared by the Government to deal with this problem. When they were in office, the Opposition consistently refused to apply themselves to it. We shall in due course deal with the problem of interest rates as well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1471.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1479.1", "colnum": "1479", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "preceding_text": "at his speech of last week was certainly of his usual standard. It is not the speechmaking of the Minister which is tarnishing his reputation, but his lack of action and his failure to fulfil the promises of the Labour Party. One always listens to the Minister with interest and to the lucidity of one who benefited from and had the advantages and perhaps the disadvantages of a Winchester education.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1479.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1479.1", "colnum": "1479", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "preceding_text": "this is the main reason for the rise in rates, what will he tell the country when for virtually the whole of his party's period of office Bank Rate has been at 7 per cent? That is only part of the story. Let me continue my round-by-round commentary. I hope that we will not get tonight the rather weak excuse given by the Chief Secretary last week that it was because of the terrible economic crisis.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1479.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1479.1", "colnum": "1479", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "preceding_text": "l in proportion to the general grant of the previous Government. Therefore, at this stage, people began to realise that not only would the Government not keep their election pledge, but that rates were going up because of various actions by the Government. On 25th March, there was an increase of 33⅓ per cent. in the cost of postage, another burden upon local authorities and upon ratepayers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1479.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1479.1", "colnum": "1479", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "preceding_text": "ment. For anybody who wants lower mortgages it is, \"Tomorrow, Sir\". For anybody who wants lower rates it is, \"Tomorrow, Sir.\" For anybody wanting lower taxes it is \"Tomorrow, Sir.\" For anybody wanting lower prices it is, \"Tomorrow, Sir.\" People are beginning to realise, however, that for this Government tomorrow never comes, and it is for this reason that when the final day of reckoning does come—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1479.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1491.4", "colnum": "1491", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "rage to act. Now we have the fantastic situation in which the party which, year in and year out, funked doing the job, is working itselt up to the view that people who came into power only six months ago, who are preparing their reforms, are breaking their pledges. We shall reform the rates. One of our difficulties in carrying on a debate in the House of Commons is the frivolity of the Opposition.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1491.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1491.4", "colnum": "1491", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " but the large part will come as something from the Government. The second point is that we are pledged to introduce an income guarantee, and we shall do so. The income guarantee is special assistance for old people and for widows. My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and others are working out plans. We shall be presenting to Parliament a plan for this special assistance—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1491.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1491.4", "colnum": "1491", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " have been greatly damaged. We have had to set up enormously expensive independent services in each borough. We should have been able to do that if they had not played the thing out, but had had the election in May. With an election as late as that, we could not get the legislation through before March and we have been confronted with this over-cumbersome bureaucracy, which is extremely expensive—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1491.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1498.1", "colnum": "1498", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "tes to our national income. If hon. Members look at the rise in the national income they will find that it is up from 100 in 1953, two years after the Tories came to power, to 191 last year. In the same period rates rose from 100 to 265. In other words, rates were rising far faster than production, faster than personal incomes and people were feeling worse and worse off throughout the Tory period.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1498.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1498.1", "colnum": "1498", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "hey wish, but those are the facts. They do not like to hear them. Having got the analysis clear, we must do several things. We must shift the balance back from the rates to national taxation by an extension of the grants and a change in the grants system. I hope to be able to find—also in order to relieve the rates—other forms of taxation which local authorities can raise in addition to the rates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1498.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.0", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "we would have had to have put £200 million extra into the general grant.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.0", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "we would have had to have put £200 million extra into the general grant. [ Interruption .] Let me finish.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.1", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Government did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "That would have meant 6d. on Income Tax, and who really seriously suggests that last November it would have been sane, responsible or sensible to have switched £200 million in that way and add an extra 6d. on Income Tax?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.2", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Hon. Gentlemen opposite know perfectly well that had they been in power, faced with the sort of economic crisis which they left to us, they would not have dreamt of doing it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.2", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATES", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Hon. Gentlemen opposite know perfectly well that had they been in power, faced with the sort of economic crisis which they left to us, they would not have dreamt of doing it. [ Interruption .] They know that only too well. They say these things out of pure hypocrisy. They are getting into the habit of systematic hypocrisy and deception.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1500.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1512.1", "colnum": "1512", "heading": "IMPORT DUTIES", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "This Order is a typical example of the Government's attitude in trying to get important legislation through the House when everybody thinks that the important business is over.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1512.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-05", "file": "debates1965-05-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd928fa615f4a4c4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1512.1", "colnum": "1512", "heading": "IMPORT DUTIES", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "lington, North (Mr. Reynolds) smiling. But he is now Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Army, so it is no wonder that he smiles. He is a Minister and he is getting experience in this kind of thing. He must be becoming very accustomed to these things under the present Government. They are bringing in these things with no explanation, expecting the House of Commons to act as voting fodder.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-05a.1512.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1533.2", "colnum": "1533", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — WALES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member used those figures on his own responsibility. I cannot confirm or deny them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1533.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1546.7", "colnum": "1546", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that there are public schools and public schools?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1546.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1559.0", "colnum": "1559", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman's question to my right hon. and learned Friend arose out of a main Question dealing with police arrangements. I hope that the hon. Gentleman does not suggest that it is the duty of the Home Secretary to order his police arrangements in such a way as to inquire into the intentions of Ministers in carrying out the requirements of the statement I have made—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1559.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1561.1", "colnum": "1561", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman was obviously so deafened by the concourse of candidates round him that he did not hear the answer I gave. He will find it in HANSARD tomorrow, but, just to help him, in case they do not give him HANSARD to read, I will say it again, and perhaps he will listen this time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1561.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1561.4", "colnum": "1561", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Captain Orr", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Orr", "preceding_text": "gton (Mr. Shinwell) that a people who are taxed at the same level as anybody else in the United Kingdom should not have the right to send representatives to this House and deal with all matters which affect public expenditure? Is it not in fact now the case that, since the electorate has risen in Northern Ireland so very largely since 1920, there is a very good ease for three or four more Members—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1561.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1566.0", "colnum": "1566", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Friday morning.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Would my right hon. Friend consider the possibility of debating this subject one morning? We have already established the principle of morning sittings.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1566.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1571.5", "colnum": "1571", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Daily Telegraph \"?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "—or 0·8 per cent. more than the national average.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1571.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1573.1", "colnum": "1573", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": " Federation does this because it likes the colour of the right hon. Gentleman's eyes. The fact is that he who pays the piper calls the tune, and it is quite obvious now that the party opposite is merely a tool of such power lobbies. The thought of having to fight elections without the groundwork having been done by such lobbies must be a frightening thought to right hon. and hon. Members opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1573.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1573.1", "colnum": "1573", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": " pays the piper calls the tune, and it is quite obvious now that the party opposite is merely a tool of such power lobbies. The thought of having to fight elections without the groundwork having been done by such lobbies must be a frightening thought to right hon. and hon. Members opposite—[ Interruption .]—and perhaps it accounts for some of their opposition to our suggestions in the White Paper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1573.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1575.1", "colnum": "1575", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "In looking at the proposals that we finally enshrined in the White Paper, we consider whether—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1575.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1575.3", "colnum": "1575", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not what they want opposite.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I hope that both sides of the House will allow this matter to be debated properly.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1575.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1575.3", "colnum": "1575", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The other side.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I hope that both sides of the House will allow this matter to be debated properly.—[HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not what they want opposite.\"] That is my wish, and I do not desire my words to be amended.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1575.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1576.1", "colnum": "1576", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "f our great industries, in which over a million of our people had invested their lives and in which thousands of millions of pounds of public money had been invested, are \"the junkyard of nationalisation\". The hon. Member for Yeovil told us just now that his party gave nationalisation a fair chance. The day when the Tories could argue against nationalisation because of lack of efficiency has gone.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1576.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1576.1", "colnum": "1576", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": " steel producers have expanded their output per man faster than our steel industry has done. To quote a few figures, the following show the growth in annual crude steel output per worker from 1954 to 1960: Japan and Italy, 84 per cent.; Canada, 70 per cent.; Holland, 52 per cent.; France, 47 per cent.; Spain, 43 per cent.; Austria, 40½ per cent.; Germany, 36 per cent.; Sweden, 35 per cent.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1576.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1582.1", "colnum": "1582", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. H. Osborn", "preceding_text": "Mr. J. H. Osborn rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1582.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1582.2", "colnum": "1582", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "anchise and the ballot box. Under our constitution, there can never have been in this country a Government with sufficient power to be able to offset the things which these great private monopolies may wish to do. I believe that if we are to progress with our democratic institutions, it is vitally important that these great power blocs should be brought within the confines of the national economy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1582.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1594.1", "colnum": "1594", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Richard Thomas and Baldwins\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "craig—and to lend it £50 million at fully commercial rates. This can be done without nationalisation and without any alteration in the existing method. Why does not the Minister also tell us, when he tells us what is wrong, that we are leading the world in the treatment of iron ore for blast furnaces, in the application of the oxygen process to open hearth furnaces, and also in continuous casting?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1594.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1594.2", "colnum": "1594", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Maxwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Maxwell", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Is it not a fact that the oxygen process—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1594.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1594.4", "colnum": "1594", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "The point that I am trying to make, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, is that the right hon. Gentleman claimed the credit for this country for the oxygen—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1594.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1596.1", "colnum": "1596", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is what he said.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "er been able to explain that figure of £400 million in 10 years and, conveniently, those who have drafted this White Paper have thrown him something of a lifeline, because now this figure of 10 years, which went back to the period after denationalisation, becomes, in paragraph 11, Over the past 10 to 15 years public money totalling over £400 million in aggregate has been provided … Even so—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1596.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1599.1", "colnum": "1599", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": " that it was necessary to look at the powers of the Board. If he had one ounce of statesmanship in him, the Minister would have grasped the chance which was offered as a result of these agreements. If the right hon. Gentleman refers to the presidential address of Mr. Judge, to the British Iron and Steel Federation, he will find that such a method would be acceptable to the industry and, I am sure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1599.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1599.1", "colnum": "1599", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "crapped it and all the other agreements since then. What we are now to have is a mobilisation of the wheel-chair vote. The Minister began his speech with some reference to the election results last October and he made a passing reference, not, I think, sufficient, to the Gallup poll which we saw in the Press this morning. We have seen also, in Scotland, the beginnings of what will be a tidal wave—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1599.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1601.1", "colnum": "1601", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "to proceed with these proposals which are both old-fashioned and irrelevant, at least could we be spared the Prime Minister's cliché-ridden speeches about modernising Britain? In particular, could we have a little less of the \"Dunkirk spirit\" in the light of these proposals? If the right hon. Gentleman knew a little more about military matters, he would use military metaphors a little less.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1601.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1601.1", "colnum": "1601", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"'Ear, 'ear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "of Trade, who has written so eloquently on this subject, that he is wholeheartedly behind the proposal for the old-fashioned nationalisation of the iron and steel industry, I bow respectfully. I have my doubts, which I will keep, if I may, to myself. The first reason is that it is the old chant of the infantry in the First World War: \"We're 'ere because we're 'ere because we're 'ere.\" Nothing else", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1601.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1602.1", "colnum": "1602", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "The second reason is simply this. What we are engaged upon, and we know it very well, is an exercise in public relations within the Labour Party. We know perfectly well that hon. Members who are too sick to be out of bed are to be brought here tonight to vote.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1602.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1602.1", "colnum": "1602", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": " What we are engaged upon, and we know it very well, is an exercise in public relations within the Labour Party. We know perfectly well that hon. Members who are too sick to be out of bed are to be brought here tonight to vote. [ Interruption .] We know perfectly well that men and women who have been on their country's and their own business have been brought hack from the other ends of the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1602.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1603.1", "colnum": "1603", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "t notice, this debate on the White Paper. The Prime Minister, if he comes through the debate with a majority tonight, will be able to show that he is as equally impervious to good advice as he is to bad. But I tell the First Secretary, in the Prime Minister's absence, that he will not win on this issue, even if he gets a tiny majority tonight, because the country is against him on these proposals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1603.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1603.1", "colnum": "1603", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "er's absence, that he will not win on this issue, even if he gets a tiny majority tonight, because the country is against him on these proposals. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] All informed opinion is against him on them. If we had a genuine free vote in the House the proposals would not collect 100 votes. As we will show in the Division list tonight, we will fight these proposals with our united strength.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1603.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1614.1", "colnum": "1614", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. Nugent", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Nugent", "preceding_text": "I would certainly not argue that the industry feels the full wind of competition. It certainly does not. This is one of the features which it is commonly agreed must be dealt with.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1614.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1626.1", "colnum": "1626", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Dear, dear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "themselves, under paragraph 29 of the White Paper without reference back to the House of Commons. Is it really suggested by the hon. Member for Bright-side that his constituents were voting for the nationalisation by the back door of a vast part of British industry? This is State Socialism going mad. This is the sort of thing which would conjure up with joy the spirit of Karl Marx—State Socialism—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1626.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1629.3", "colnum": "1629", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "not answer. Hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite are Socialists and, therefore, for Socialist principles they want to nationalise this industry. Let them rest on that argument. It is the only ground on which they are safe and perhaps they can persuade Socialists to follow them. But they know that the vast majority of the country—for I hope that tonight we shall be supported by the Liberal Party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1629.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1630.1", "colnum": "1630", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Woodrow Wyatt", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That would not worry it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodrow Wyatt", "preceding_text": "ople think that it will work, and if they, with all their experience in the industry, think that it will work, I do not see why the Government should not think that it will work. In that case, the Conservative Party would not seek to unscramble the industry if it was returned to power, because it would become the doctrinaire party which was forcing on the public an unnecessary and boring argument.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1630.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1630.1", "colnum": "1630", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Woodrow Wyatt", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ridiculous!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodrow Wyatt", "preceding_text": " made it clear, ever since the beginning of this Parliament, that I cannot, in conscience, support the old-fashioned nationalisation of the selected companies. I have said it again and again. They have known it all along. I must assume that they have taken it into consideration when making their plans. If anything goes wrong in the Division tonight it is as much their responsibility as it is mine.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1630.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1643.1", "colnum": "1643", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wyatt", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wyatt", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend the Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Sydney Silverman) has spent most of his life trying to dictate to the Government. Why should I not?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1643.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1643.1", "colnum": "1643", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wyatt", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wyatt", "preceding_text": "feated in this vote tonight on the White Paper they have to resign. I do not believe that this is an issue of confidence. It would be quite easy to have a vote of confidence tomorrow or on Monday, in which I would gladly and joyfully vote for them. But if I am told that we can never vote against the Government because if we do there is always going to be a General Election, what is this House for?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1643.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1652.0", "colnum": "1652", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "e situation that the Labour Government cannot carry through legislation of this nature—so urgently required in the Government's estimation and regarded for many years as being urgently required by the Labour Party—and if it would really take one and a half years or so to reach vesting day, then we will have to speed things up a bit. We will have to make Parliament work faster—modernise Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1652.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emlyn Hooson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emlyn Hooson", "preceding_text": "om the Iron and Steel Federation, nor from any company in the steel industry. The hon. Member for Ebbw Vale chided his hon. Friend the Member for Bosworth (Mr. Wyatt) for his friendship or acquaintance with members of the Iron and Steel Federation. I do not believe that, in the 'sixties, capitalists have horns, as the hon. Member seems to think. They are ordinary people, just like the hon. Member—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emlyn Hooson", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emlyn Hooson", "preceding_text": "round and realising that today he is setting himself up as one of the most conservative of doctrinnaire Socialists, I reflected sadly that it is the converts who are the most orthodox and enthusiastic. The hon. Member said not a word in support of the White Paper; it was sufficient for him that the Government had to be supported at all costs. I want to make it quite clear that my party is opposed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1661.0", "colnum": "1661", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": "No, I shall not give way. The Government are here hostages to their extremes. They know that they will not be able to keep the movement together unless they make a great attempt to take this citadel.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1661.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1661.4", "colnum": "1661", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "Mr. Mikardo rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1661.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1663.1", "colnum": "1663", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": " what will happen is this. The industry will be nationalised and there will be no chance of any competition, in prices or anything else, in the future. Prices will be completely frozen. The Minister's argument is no valid argument for the nationalisation of steel. If our experience of the other nationalised industries is any guide, whatever their advantages or disadvantages the price always rises.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1663.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1663.1", "colnum": "1663", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": " thousand workers at the Steel Company of Wales' plant at Port Talbot are said to be redundant out of a total of 17,000. They are industrially redundant. The work can be done by the remaining staff. This is a tremendous human problem. No Government, neither the Tory Government nor the Labour Government, have yet faced up to the great problem of how to get a proper redundancy and retraining scheme.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1663.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1663.1", "colnum": "1663", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": "sed. The claim that efficiency will be improved if the industry is nationalised is completely unwarranted. The other day the Financial Secretary said that if the industry were nationalised it could use more computers. One-third of the on-line computers either in use or on order in British industry are in the steel industry. This compares with one-fifth in the United States and one-sixth in Europe.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1663.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1665.3", "colnum": "1665", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": "The truth is that hon. Members opposite are not prepared to listen to the opposite view.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1665.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1665.3", "colnum": "1665", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": "ompany of Wales to buy and then being sent back to London to a central selling organisation, there to be told by a computer what he must buy and sell. This theoretical claim that a nationalised industry will be more efficient is not borne out by experience in this country or abroad, and the very worst time for a Government to go into an industry is on a buyers' market such as we now have in steel.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1665.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1667.0", "colnum": "1667", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Terrifying\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": "ry. It is the height of irresponsibility that a Government who, during the election, said that they had a scheme for nationalising the industry should have no scheme at all when it comes to the crunch and should propose to leave the matter to a body which is to have a year to work out a scheme. We in the Liberal Party intend to oppose this scheme and the Bill which is to follow all along the line.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1667.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1671.2", "colnum": "1671", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend should not say that, because he will need my vote tonight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1671.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.0", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "I did not think that the right hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Barber) intended to criticise the Chair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.1", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "sion is called at ten o'clock tonight, the fact is that the majority of hon. Members are opposed to the Government's proposals. Because the right hon. Gentleman the Prime Minister and his colleagues know that this is the case, they have resorted to the squalid device of taking the debate on the last possible day before the Conservative Member for Birmingham, Hall Green, may take his seat and vote.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.1", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " this preliminary sortie on the White Paper. In the debate on the Queen's Speech the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs talked of debating the Bill. There was not a whisper, when he spoke on the last occasion, of any White Paper, for the simple reason that the ploy had not then been devised. If I might give him a little advice it would have been better to prepare his speech before he arrived.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.1", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "r. In the debate on the Queen's Speech the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs talked of debating the Bill. There was not a whisper, when he spoke on the last occasion, of any White Paper, for the simple reason that the ploy had not then been devised. If I might give him a little advice it would have been better to prepare his speech before he arrived. [ Interruption .] Of course, we all know—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.1", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "en devised. If I might give him a little advice it would have been better to prepare his speech before he arrived. [ Interruption .] Of course, we all know—[ Interruption .]—from the election manifesto that the Labour Party was ready and poised to swing its plans into instant operation. The right hon. Gentleman and his colleagues have now been in office for six months and in the Ministry of Power—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1674.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1676.1", "colnum": "1676", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "me designed to ensure adequate capacity. The hon. Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Michael Foot), who entertained us so delightfully, took issue with the right hon. Member for Vauxhall and said that the industry had not been expansion-minded. I ask the hon. Gentleman to pause for a moment to consider what happened when the industry was previously nationalised. The nationalised Iron and Steel Corporation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1676.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1676.3", "colnum": "1676", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "I draw the obvious deduction which any fair-minded and objective person would draw, which is that from time to time there are serious differences of opinion both within the industry and between the industry and the Government about what the capacity should be. But may I ask the hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1676.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1676.3", "colnum": "1676", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "formance of the industry is poor. We were told that it is inefficient. My right hon. Friend the Member for Enfield, West gave the facts. I will add only this, for the Minister's benefit. Nobody would pretend that in an industry comprised of more than 250 companies, operating in more than 300 works, there are not faults and shortcomings. Of course, there are faults and shortcomings in the industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1676.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1680.1", "colnum": "1680", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer the question.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "What I am saying is that if we take into account all the capital which has been provided for Richard Thomas and Baldwins—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1680.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1680.5", "colnum": "1680", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "uld, as was pointed out by the right hon. Member for Vauxhall, be a further nine months which would elapse before vesting day. Even after that period on the formula laid down in the White Paper there would be a further year or even longer before any decision was reached on the new form of organisation for the industry. If the Government had deliberately set out to frustrate for the next two years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1680.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1682.0", "colnum": "1682", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his welcome. I have been with the National Farmers' Union and other farmers' organisations—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1682.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1682.1", "colnum": "1682", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his welcome. I have been with the National Farmers' Union and other farmers' organisations—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"] I thought that hon. Members opposite were interested in these things—for the last four hours.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1682.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.1", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ivor Richard", "preceding_text": "Mr. Ivor Richard (Barons Court) rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.3", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Be fair.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "Let me come back—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "s' council. But if the consequences for the home consumer are serious, the effect on our exports could be disastrous. Let me remind the House that 20 per cent. of all British steel is directly exported and that a further 20 per cent. is exported indirectly in the form of steel-containing products. It is incredible, at a time when Britain is faced with the most serious balance of payments problems—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "t 20 per cent. of all British steel is directly exported and that a further 20 per cent. is exported indirectly in the form of steel-containing products. It is incredible, at a time when Britain is faced with the most serious balance of payments problems—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—that this major industry should be put in jeopardy. It is all very well for the right hon. Gentleman the Minister of Power—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "t a time when Britain is faced with the most serious balance of payments problems—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—that this major industry should be put in jeopardy. It is all very well for the right hon. Gentleman the Minister of Power—[ Interruption .] I think that I had better make this clear. At a quarter to nine I asked how long the right hon. Gentleman the First Secretary wanted. He was not available.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "e Minister of Power spent about five minutes talking about the gas industry, as though this will have some relevance to the steel industry. If the right hon. Gentleman's arguments are valid for nationalising this industry, the first great manufacturing industry with a diversity of products, why stop at steel? What of chemicals, for instance? I ask him whether the Government have chemicals in mind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "stry, as though this will have some relevance to the steel industry. If the right hon. Gentleman's arguments are valid for nationalising this industry, the first great manufacturing industry with a diversity of products, why stop at steel? What of chemicals, for instance? I ask him whether the Government have chemicals in mind. [ Laughter .] The First Secretary laughs. Is this what he has in mind?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4", "colnum": "1683", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "e is one conclusion which cannot be gainsaid. To choose this moment to bring the proposal forward—a time when it is vital to regain overseas confidence—is to discard all pretence that the Government are concerned for the national interest. After all, it can hardly be the case that there are no other unfulfilled pledges of the Labour Party waiting for legislation. Why is steel to be given priority?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1683.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "ister of Housing and Local Government in these words: … help to intending owner-occupiers would require legislation and … there will be no time for that this Session …\".—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 24th November, 1964; Vol. 702, c. 1075–6.] So we have it—no time for the hard-pressed owner-occupier, but all the time in the world for Clause Four. Who wants nationalisation of steel?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "nding owner-occupiers would require legislation and … there will be no time for that this Session …\".—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 24th November, 1964; Vol. 702, c. 1075–6.] So we have it—no time for the hard-pressed owner-occupier, but all the time in the world for Clause Four. Who wants nationalisation of steel? [HON. MEMBERS: \"We do.\"] As I say, Who wants the nationalisation of steel?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Time.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "ORT, 24th November, 1964; Vol. 702, c. 1075–6.] So we have it—no time for the hard-pressed owner-occupier, but all the time in the world for Clause Four. Who wants nationalisation of steel? [HON. MEMBERS: \"We do.\"] As I say, Who wants the nationalisation of steel? [HON. MEMBERS: \"We do.\"] Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will answer a very simple question, one which concerns him personally—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Time.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "on of steel? [HON. MEMBERS: \"We do.\"] As I say, Who wants the nationalisation of steel? [HON. MEMBERS: \"We do.\"] Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will answer a very simple question, one which concerns him personally—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Time.\"]—because it will only take him a moment. In this document I am holding, his election document, not a solitary reference was made to the nationalisation of steel.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Time.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " question, one which concerns him personally—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Time.\"]—because it will only take him a moment. In this document I am holding, his election document, not a solitary reference was made to the nationalisation of steel. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Time.\"] The truth is that the country does not want it and the majority of hon. Members do not want it, yet, despite this, the Government are going ahead.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.3", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Barber) and his Whips agreed with me and my Whips—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.3", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Barber) and his Whips agreed with me and my Whips—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"]—long before nine o'clock in the House what the time scale should be. They have chosen to cheat", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.4", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "\"Three per cent.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Barber) and his Whips agreed with me and my Whips—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"]—long before nine o'clock in the House what the time scale should be. They have chosen to cheat [ Interruption .] I remind them that two can play that game. At least I stand by my bargains.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1685.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1686.0", "colnum": "1686", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "I say that to all those Dr. Goebbels associates on the bench opposite. May we now, in the time the right hon. Gentleman, for his own ego, has left me in which to answer the debate, return to the subject under discussion? What are we dealing with here?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1686.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1686.0", "colnum": "1686", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "I say that to all those Dr. Goebbels associates on the bench opposite. May we now, in the time the right hon. Gentleman, for his own ego, has left me in which to answer the debate, return to the subject under discussion? What are we dealing with here? [ Interruption .] Every time I wind up a debate this happens.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1686.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1686.1", "colnum": "1686", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. Hon. and right hon. Gentlemen on the Government Benches listened with reasonable tolerance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1686.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1686.2", "colnum": "1686", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": " the Leader of the Opposition buries his head in his hands and giggles just as much as does the right hon. Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath). Every time I am entitled to expect the same hearing that the Leader of the Opposition is so used to claiming for himself it happens. I do not get the same hearing, but then, being a laird, I suppose that he never thinks that the other chap is similarly entitled.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1686.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1688.1", "colnum": "1688", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What as?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "No. If the right hon. Gentleman leaves no time, of course, one cannot give way. When the right hon. Gentleman was talking about R.T.B. and its exports, someone asked him, \"R.T.B. exports 40 per cent. of its production, does it not?\" The right hon. Gentleman replied, \"Yes, but it loses money, too.\" May I say that in my job, not as a politician—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1688.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "There are times when the right hon. Gentleman would do well to remember that in this House we speak for the nation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": " when the right hon. Gentleman would do well to remember that in this House we speak for the nation—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—and not for the Tory Party. We speak for the nation. I included the right hon. Gentleman, but I clearly did him more justice than was his due. A possible solution is greater competition, but does anyone in the House think that we could give greater competition to this industry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "n industry gets itself into the situation where it becomes a monopoly and has become a monopoly, it would be far better to be a public monopoly than to be a private monopoly. I commend that to the Liberal Party. Therefore, on principle we are bound to face the fact that the industry has moved towards, is moving towards, and is now in, a situation where private ownership in some form is inevitable—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wrongly.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": " the day, that I meet steel users. Every time I go to the right hon. Gentleman's country I meet them. Let hon. Members opposite ask them what they think about the performance of the steel-producing industry's steel masters. Conservative supporters, unlike the tame Conservatives in this House, know that something has to be done about the industry in its present situation. We say rightly or wrongly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "ay be so, but we say rightly or wrongly that the right way to deal with this matter is to acquire the capital. What is the case against us? First, that our proposal is not relevant. I submit to the House that that is certainly not a basis on which our proposal can be shot down. It is clearly relevant. It is the way in which we can get the job done and the way the nation thinks it ought to be done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "us manning changes are needed. We shall not get them made unless the men and their organisations feel that there is a bigger purpose behind this than somebody's private profit. The next point is whether the size will be too big. If we nationalise and if we take the equity, will we produce an industry that is too big? We shall not change the size of the industry. It will be as big as it is already.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Look behind.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "ends. The only issue is the question of over what area one can control policy. That is the only issue that we are arguing about. Another part of the case made against nationalisation is whether it will be bureaucratic. I ask hon. and right hon. Members opposite to look at the present situation and the number of bodies who try to check and recheck each other, control and counter-control each other.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1689.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1701.5", "colnum": "1701", "heading": "AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "It might be—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1701.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1723.3", "colnum": "1723", "heading": "AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Farr", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Farr", "preceding_text": "aking place after 10 o'clock because, they said, that they had had a long and difficult day discussing agriculture. But at least the discussions that day were on an important matter of real urgency to the country, and we did not waste time, as we have done today, with the party opposite trying to push through, against the wishes of the country, a futile policy which is of no earthly use to anyone.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1723.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1723.6", "colnum": "1723", "heading": "AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "On a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1723.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1733.1", "colnum": "1733", "heading": "AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Michael Jopling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Three.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Jopling", "preceding_text": "These Orders are of the utmost importance to my constituents. Westmorland is one of our largest and most important areas of hill farming. One of the most important changes in the hill farming picture in England and Wales over the next few years was debated last week when we dealt with the Commons Registration Bill [ Lords ]. I find it strange tonight to follow two Liberal Members—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1733.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1733.1", "colnum": "1733", "heading": "AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Michael Jopling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Three.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Jopling", "preceding_text": " most important areas of hill farming. One of the most important changes in the hill farming picture in England and Wales over the next few years was debated last week when we dealt with the Commons Registration Bill [ Lords ]. I find it strange tonight to follow two Liberal Members—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Three.\"] The hon. Member for Bodmin (Mr. Bessell) and the hon. Member for Devon, North (Mr. Thorpe)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1733.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1735.3", "colnum": "1735", "heading": "AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jopling", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. Gentleman should declare his interest.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jopling", "preceding_text": "I am most grateful to you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. These are matters of vital importance to those of us who make our living from the land.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1735.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-06", "file": "debates1965-05-06a.xml", "sha256": "7b7af4f86429d315", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1740.1", "colnum": "1740", "heading": "AGRICULTURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not enough\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "uded from the hill cattle scheme. In fact, I have corresponded with all the hon. Members who have raised the matter tonight. Perhaps they might have added that in a few cases—and it must be remembered that these farms were excluded before we took office—we were able to do something to rectify the situation and put back people who had been left out. I am not saying that that was done in many cases.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-06a.1740.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.23.4", "colnum": "23", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I should say it is, but this is a trend which has been going on all the time. I could easily cite the figures for 13 years and show how they have gone up all the time. For instance, I notice that there were 18—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.23.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.24.4", "colnum": "24", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I take it that part of that supplementary question is completely out of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.24.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.31.8", "colnum": "31", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "I cannot see the point of the question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.31.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.35.0", "colnum": "35", "heading": "SECURITY COMMISSION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": " a further statement to the House. But there is one thing I want to say now. The Security Service operates far removed from public gaze. When public attention does fall on them it is through breaches of security which, whatever their nature, are bound to lead to criticism of security arrangements in the public service. It is plain that the Service deserves the thanks of us all for a job well done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.33.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.44.3", "colnum": "44", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Niall MacDermot)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Niall MacDermot)", "preceding_text": "should like to refer to. Firstly, may I remind the House of the assets that will not be subject to charge. The tax will not apply to a person's only or main residence; to chattels disposed of for £1,000 or less; to Savings Certificates, National Development Bonds or Defence Bonds, or to the proceeds on maturity or surrender of normal life assurance policies. It will not apply to gambling winnings.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.44.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.51.1", "colnum": "51", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "ences of opinion on particular features, but I hope that we shall be able to count on hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite supporting at any rate the general idea of the Corporation Tax. The arguments in favour of a Corporation Tax were briefly deployed by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his Budget. First, it is a contribution towards the simplification of the tax system.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.51.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.68.4", "colnum": "68", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Do not get excited.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I only want to make the point that there is no—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.68.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.85.0", "colnum": "85", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A big one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "to the out-of-context exuberance of the party conference quotations of the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath). It is plain that we shall need to have a united nation if we are to tackle the problems ahead. All this met with my intense approval and my full support. I have not been able to agree with complaints that the Bill is badly drawn. It is a little masterpiece of its kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.85.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.85.0", "colnum": "85", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "e had been engaged in setting up a chain of pin table saloons. We would have been rather better off, fiscally speaking, than we shall be now\". I hope that we shall not ignore the case that has been made. I hope that the Chancellor of the Exchequer will look at this again. He is a moderate man. He is a man of great flexibility of temperament and character. There is another matter which troubles me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.85.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.85.0", "colnum": "85", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "se fundamental criticisms of his approach or of his handling of our affairs since he took charge. I have the greatest confidence in my right hon. Friend's handling of our affairs. I have the greatest confidence in his budgetary approach. As I have said, these much overdue motivations are very much what we need, but that does not prevent me from making detailed criticisms and making them in public.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.85.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.113.3", "colnum": "113", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. H. Turton", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. H. Turton", "preceding_text": "Industries Association was that they thought it an enlightened speech, indicating that the attitude of Britain was very different from the attitude of many countries in Europe; that Britain was helping them to develop. Now we have the position that under this Clause there will be an end of the whole policy, which the Conservative Party has been trying to encourage, of helping developing countries—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.113.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.161.1", "colnum": "161", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Hordern", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. Member is reading.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Hordern", "preceding_text": ", that it seems to the outside observer as if the Treasury is an exotic hothouse full of kinky economists jabbering in different languages and with unintelligible signs. The Treasury seems to have become the Passionflower Hotel of the Civil Service in which a man with business experience is a total stranger. Never can so many expert representations have been made and never so many totally ignored.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.161.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.172.5", "colnum": "172", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Really!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": "uragement to growth. These companies are often new, small companies, with young dynamic ownership and management. Hon. Members opposite have said that this type of company derives no encouragement from the Corporation Tax. I can only believe that they have been listening to the right hon. Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath), who has shown he really does not understand the workings of the Corporation Tax", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.172.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.183.3", "colnum": "183", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "Surely this is a short-sighted policy. I do not suppose it would be right to let the Second Reading go without mentioning Corporation Tax. I would commend to the Chancellor—I hope he has read it—the debate in another place last week which the noble Lord, Lord Aldington, initiated on overseas investment. There one can get an overall and, if I may say so, a fairly non-party approach to this problem.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.183.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.183.3", "colnum": "183", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "about it, but the cold fact of the matter is that during 13 years of Tory Government the standard of living in this country went up by 40 per cent., and that is no mean achievement. From the benches opposite in those days the cry went up about a candy-floss economy. At least we had candy. We have no candy now. All we have is a floss economy. The Bill shows antagonism towards the capitalist system.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.183.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.193.3", "colnum": "193", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "nvincing and lucid way. I was not altogether surprised to hear him say that he did not have any particular confidence in this Government. I would have been surprised if he had. But he was hedging his bets a little unnecessarily; he need not have put the matter in the general way he did when he invited us to move over, to let someone take over. Someone! Does he have to hedge as much as that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.193.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.193.3", "colnum": "193", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "ody would be better. I have seen the claims of the right hon. and learned Member for Wirral (Mr. Selwyn Lloyd) advanced in the Press, and in certain circumstances I would find myself very strongly behind him; there is a great deal to be said for his candidature. I do not want to provoke hon. Members, but they seemed to be hedging their bets a little too much. It has been a very interesting debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.193.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.194.1", "colnum": "194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "s in other fields apart from capital gains. In this case—unusually so—I can rely on the combined wisdom of both the majority and the minority Reports of the Royal Commission on Taxation. All signatories to the Royal Commission Report were of the opinion that no allowance should be made for the inflationary consequences of a country's policy. I therefore do not think that I can make that allowance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.199.1", "colnum": "199", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "faith here. The right hon. Gentleman the Member for Flint, West (Mr. Birch) wrote one of his famous letters in The Times in which he said that the proposal to tax capital gains on gilt-edged made him feel sick. It is an astonishing phenomenon. The last time he felt sick was when he was talking to Mr. Harold Macmillan. He gets sick about the oddest things. I do not follow that sort of argument and—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.199.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.199.1", "colnum": "199", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "letter, to be truthful. I do not follow the argument that when a Government decide to change taxation arrangements they must except gilt-edged from their taxation changes. This argument has been used about nothing else. Of course we are entitled to change the taxation arrangements. Any Government are and many Governments have. There is simply nothing in the argument that this is a breach of faith.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.199.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.200.1", "colnum": "200", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "s in mind. One of the advantages of the Corporation Tax, apart from its simplicity and the fact that in my view it acts as an incentive to growth, is that it enables trade unions to take what I would regard as a rational view towards profitability. Nobody likes to work for an unprofitable industry. That is why one can always get employees to work for, say, I.C.I. in preference to British Railways.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.200.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.203.1", "colnum": "203", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He did give way.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I hope that the hon. Member will not say that my hon. Friend dodged the question. He gave way a number of times and did not give way to the hon. Member, and that was the reason I gave way to him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.203.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.203.1", "colnum": "203", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I hope that the hon. Member will not say that my hon. Friend dodged the question. He gave way a number of times and did not give way to the hon. Member, and that was the reason I gave way to him. [HON. MEMBERS: \"He did give way.\"] The hon. Member then tried to get up again and failed. I will come to close companies. Indeed I will come to that straightaway. Am I going on too long?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.203.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.205.1", "colnum": "205", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Brinton", "preceding_text": "Sir T. Brinton rose—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.205.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-10", "file": "debates1965-05-10a.xml", "sha256": "ae408b02b4669b74", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.205.2", "colnum": "205", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "Having set this very reasonable standard, it is not unreasonable to expect the company to show that it ought not to distribute even that modest amount. If these companies are ploughing back their profits into new equipment and plant, nobody will require them to distribute them; it is where they are just sitting on them that we act.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-10a.205.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.241.1", "colnum": "241", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": " not correspond with the facts. The record for house building, measured by standards of completions or of starts, was achieved in the first three months of this year. What we are discussing is whether in April there has been a setback. We find that in terms of building societies there has been a considerable improvement in the situation. For instance, the liquidity ratio of the building societies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.241.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.241.1", "colnum": "241", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "building societies—[ Interruption. ]—I ask hon. Members who ask me questions to wait for me to answer them. The liquidity ratio of the building societies, which is one of the tests which we must take most carefully, has, I gather, somewhat improved last month, so we can hope that movement out of the societies has been slowed down. Of course I do not think that the situation is wholly satisfactory—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.241.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.266.0", "colnum": "266", "heading": "DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (SECURITY COUNCIL MEETING)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "As to the action of the United States in sending forces necessary for the protection of its own nationals—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.266.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.268.6", "colnum": "268", "heading": "DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (SECURITY COUNCIL MEETING)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "Would the Foreign Secretary agree that in this case and at this time, had the matter been left to the United Nations, British and other nationals would have been at risk?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.268.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.271.10", "colnum": "271", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. B. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. B. Godber", "preceding_text": "er last, said: An attack must be made on the problem of increasing prices. Not only do they inflict hardship on those least able to bear it, but continually rising prices undermine our competitive power. That is what was said then, and that is a statement with which I would not quarrel. It shows that keeping prices down was at the forefront of the Govern- ment's intentions when they assumed power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.271.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.283.1", "colnum": "283", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "hink that the Committee is entitled to know—what now is the attitude of the Minister of Technology in relation to this matter. We are entitled to know where the right hon. Gentleman stands over this—and if he wishes to interrupt I shall be only too happy to allow him to do so. If he does not then we must make our own assumptions. I should have thought that he had a duty to make his position clear—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.283.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.285.0", "colnum": "285", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Technology (Mr. Frank Cousins)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Absurd.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Technology (Mr. Frank Cousins)", "preceding_text": " to the whole question of the trade union movement, it was made clear that we thought that the reactions at the Ministry were undermining the belief of the trade union movement in Government intentions in toto. The right hon. Gentleman has said that the Minister of Technology attended the N.E.D.C. I certainly did, in another capacity, and I listened to what was an attempt to impose wage restraint.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.285.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.286.3", "colnum": "286", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "ecided in the light of the Joint Statement of Intent on Productivity Prices and Incomes. Note the words \"decided in the light of\". It is a very peculiar light in which he has seen it if, in fact, the norm means anything at all. Then the Secretary of State for Education and Science proclaimed to the teachers that they would always be a special case. This special pleading is all very well, provided—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.286.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.291.1", "colnum": "291", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "dy referred. Let no one imagine that in talking about prices and incomes this is either the core of the subject, or the only way to attack it. I agree whole-heartedly that in the last analysis the answer to bringing about stability of prices and raising the real personal standards of earnings rests on productivity. It rests on getting rid of restrictive practices wherever they exist on both sides.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.291.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.295.1", "colnum": "295", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Surcharge.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman has told us that these were things that had begun at the beginning of January and were supposed to be due to events which took place six or seven weeks before, which takes us up to within three weeks of our getting into office. If he really suggests that by 1st January everything was being caused by the things that we did it is silly.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.295.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.306.1", "colnum": "306", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It faces competition.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "egularly, by the Select Committee on Nationalised Industries which at the moment is looking into the affairs of the London Transport Board. There is no doubt about the value of these inquiries. The Select Committee in particular has produced excellent reports, and without question all this puts great pressure on the nationalised industries. Private enterprise does not have to face either of these.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.306.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.306.1", "colnum": "306", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Competition.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": ". Friends have drawn the attention of the chairmen of the independent consultative bodies to the considerations of national interest relating to prices set out in the White Paper. They have asked them to see that these are taken into account in considering what is done by the industries for which they are the consultative body. That is the third hoop. Where is the equivalent in private enterprise?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.306.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.332.3", "colnum": "332", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "? The best indication that the crisis is continuing is the high rate of interest plus a credit squeeze. There is considerable confusion in the best informed circles, not only in this country but overseas, about what the Government think. I put a Question to the Chancellor last Tuesday and I received a Written Answer in which he said that he hoped to restore the equilibrium by the end of next year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.332.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.336.1", "colnum": "336", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "Let me deal with the matter. They say that they inherited a problem of the nation living £800 million beyond its Own capital—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.336.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.339.1", "colnum": "339", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carter-Jones", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Co-op?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carter-Jones", "preceding_text": "put in these products is held by those companies, it should be remembered that 15 per cent. of the total turnover goes on Press and television advertising, although in that 15 per cent. is not included the sort of thing that infuriates the housewife; the free offer and the free gift. During the past 12 months Omo, Daz, Surf and Tide have increased in price by 12 per cent., a considerable increase.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.339.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.372.1", "colnum": "372", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ridsdale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh dear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ridsdale", "preceding_text": "e the increase in rates this year? Recently when I was making a speech in my constituency I said that if the increased rate of expenditure continued at a figure of 10 per cent. a year—the kind of increase that we now have to face over the next 8 to 10 years—a pensioner in my audience said, \"If we have to face that kind of increase each year we have only one alternative, that is to commit suicide.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.372.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.379.1", "colnum": "379", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "preceding_text": "ssue on which we shall vote tonight. It is that there has been over the last few months, and is now continuing, a widespread rise in prices at an increasing pace, despite the firm pledge by the party opposite that it could and would stabilise the cost of living. It is true, I say it at once, that we on this side did not conquer this problem when we were the Government, but we slowed down the pace—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.379.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.390.1", "colnum": "390", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "ose five years on the basis of 1961=100. It is a remarkable part of the story that with the party opposite in power and with this sharp drop in import prices, the Retail Price Index continued to rise throughout even those five years. The one period when the country might fairly easily have enjoyed stable prices was thrown away in those years by mistakes of policy, and mainly by the Rent Act, 1957.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.390.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.392.1", "colnum": "392", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We have had it for six months.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "No. The 7 per cent. Bank Rate is a temporary measure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.392.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.392.1", "colnum": "392", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "es and prices. One central part of any policy of restraining price increases must be the control of demand through the Budget and credit policies. Nobody can say that the present Government have been slow to impose the disinflation that was necessary over the last six months. My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer has introduced in six months two courageously disinflationary Budgets.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.392.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.392.1", "colnum": "392", "heading": "RISING PRICES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "han rents, salaries or wages. Thirdly, we have introduced a real capital gains tax at last, which will end the scandal in this country of tax-free capital gains running side by side with taxed earned income. Fourth, my right hon. Friend the Chancellor, is attacking expense account extravagance which everyone knows has been a major psychological obstacle in recent years to an agreed incomes policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.392.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.411.0", "colnum": "411", "heading": "TRAFFIC WARDENS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "I reject those comments. I do not think that they are well founded. I am trying to make a case to the House. It is suggested that someone controlling traffic has to have powers to arrest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.411.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.411.0", "colnum": "411", "heading": "TRAFFIC WARDENS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "I reject those comments. I do not think that they are well founded. I am trying to make a case to the House. It is suggested that someone controlling traffic has to have powers to arrest. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] That is what is being asked for.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.411.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.429.2", "colnum": "429", "heading": "TRAFFIC WARDENS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "e Secretary, no longer in the House, both of whom were trying to improve our roads and streets. The Minister of Transport said to the Home Secretary of the time, \"Your job is simple. It is to get the girls off the streets. My job is to get the traffic off the streets\". It is right for the police to concentrate on law and order and for both the girls and the traffic to be dealt with in another way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.429.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-11", "file": "debates1965-05-11a.xml", "sha256": "09fea496a0410096", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.447.1", "colnum": "447", "heading": "TRAFFIC WARDENS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "preceding_text": "I have looked into this matter with some care, and I hoped to make what I regarded as some serious points, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. Although at this late hour some hon. Members may adopt a light-hearted approach, it was not my intention to make a light-hearted speech. I shall ignore the other points which I had in mind, because of the time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-11a.447.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.467.2", "colnum": "467", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "Upon the principle—if I may quote a Latin tag with which the hon. Gentleman will be very familiar—\" ut omnia magis valeant quam pereant \"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.467.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.468.3", "colnum": "468", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rees-Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sentenced for.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rees-Davies", "preceding_text": "fe\" has been taken out of the sentence, the Bill has been executed, which is singularly appropriate. Not only has the Bill been executed, but we have removed from it the only sentence contained in any part of it. As my hon. Friend the Member for Crosby (Mr. Graham Page) has rightly pointed out, we are therefore left with the statement that the sentence shall be a \"sentence of,\" so that we are now—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.468.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.472.4", "colnum": "472", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I have heard all that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.472.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.0", "colnum": "473", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "As a result of a manoeuvre which the opponents of the Bill had not sufficient—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2", "colnum": "473", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I am merely expressing my opinion that this was a manoeuvre—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2", "colnum": "473", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I am merely expressing my opinion that this was a manoeuvre—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—I am entitled to say that it was a manoeuvre—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2", "colnum": "473", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I am merely expressing my opinion that this was a manoeuvre—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—I am entitled to say that it was a manoeuvre—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—arranged, just as—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2", "colnum": "473", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I am merely expressing my opinion that this was a manoeuvre—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—I am entitled to say that it was a manoeuvre—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—arranged, just as—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—I can wait. It was arranged, just as the original transfer of the Bill to a Committee of the whole House was arranged. I recognise that the position which has been created—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2", "colnum": "473", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—I am entitled to say that it was a manoeuvre—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—arranged, just as—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—I can wait. It was arranged, just as the original transfer of the Bill to a Committee of the whole House was arranged. I recognise that the position which has been created—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"]—I recognise that the position which has been created—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.4", "colnum": "473", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chairman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name him.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "I have pointed out to the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne twice—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.473.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.474.0", "colnum": "474", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name him.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I recognise that a nonsensical situation has been created—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.474.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.474.0", "colnum": "474", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name him.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silverman", "preceding_text": "I recognise that a nonsensical situation has been created—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Name him.\"]—a nonsensical situation has been created—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.474.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.481.3", "colnum": "481", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Dr. King. I think that it is only fair to point out to you that there seems to be some doubt whether the Division bells rang in some offices and Ministries.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.481.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.482.1", "colnum": "482", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chairman", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They are now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "th (Mr. Thorneycroft) in a moment. I remember the circumstances to which the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Sydney Silverman) refers. I refused to rule on or to deal at that time with a hypothetical complaint. I undertook to satisfy myself of the truth or otherwise of the allegations that the bells did not ring. On that occasion the complaints, I understand, were utterly without foundation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.482.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.483.0", "colnum": "483", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mr. George Thomas)", "preceding_text": "Further to the point of order, Dr. King. I was in the Home Office this morning, engaged on my work, and I know of Ministerial colleagues of mine who were in other Departments. We have had inquiries made. The first bell did not ring.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.483.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.485.0", "colnum": "485", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "Further to the point of order, Dr. King.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.485.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.502.4", "colnum": "502", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — POST OFFICE", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Which war?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. Gentleman aware that before the war—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.502.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.502.4", "colnum": "502", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — POST OFFICE", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"HOW do you know?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. Gentleman aware that before the war—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Which war?\"]—letters posted in the Knutsford division in the morning were delivered in London in the evening of the same day? Is the hon. Gentleman aware that now not only do letters take two days to be delivered but sometimes they never arrive at all?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.502.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.521.0", "colnum": "521", "heading": "ELECTORAL LAW (SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "inister has invited me to preside over such a conference, and I have readily agreed to do so. The terms of reference of the conference will be as follows: To examine and, if possible, to submit agreed resolutions on the following matters relating to parliamentary elections:— ( a ) Reform of the franchise, with particular reference to the minimum age for voting and registration procedure generally.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.520.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.524.3", "colnum": "524", "heading": "WAR DAMAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Vol. 510, c. 2040. An earlier Ruling of Mr. Speaker Abbot, of 17th July, 1811, was that there must be a \"direct pecuniary interest\". His Ruling included these words: … separately belonging to the persons whose votes are questioned\". If the Lords Amendments to this Bill are accepted the effect will be that the Burmah Oil Co. will be able to obtain more than £30 million from the public purse.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.524.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.529.0", "colnum": "529", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": "When my hon. and learned Friend Is developing this argument, will he not overlook the fact that whilst many hon. Members on both sides have considerable doubts about retrospective legislation in the abstract, this case is a piece of retrospective litigation, in so far as the cause of action could not have been pursued in an English court because of the Limitation Act?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.529.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.529.0", "colnum": "529", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": "ould not have been pursued in an English court because of the Limitation Act? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] This is on record. The cause of action was started in a Scottish court because those concerned could not have got the case on its feet in an English court. In that sense, therefore, it is retrospective litigation. It could not, about 17 years after the event, have been started in the English courts.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.529.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.552.0", "colnum": "552", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "preceding_text": "opportunity to see whether the matter could be disposed of by negotiation. On that occasion, my Motion was defeated by 137 votes to 149, a very different vote from the vote on Second Reading—a majority of only 12. In another place, on both Second Reading and in Committee, there were some outstanding speeches on these Amendments. Lord McNair, an eminent jurist highly respected throughout the world—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.552.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.556.0", "colnum": "556", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "t became company politics and I want to refer to that in a little detail later. At the outset, I want to say that I have a very great deal of respect for some, but not all, of the lawyers who advanced the case in another place, particularly Lord McNair. I do not think that anyone could challenge his integrity. I would have reservations about some of the others, and I will come to them in a moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.555.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.556.2", "colnum": "556", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "ddition, these companies are claiming a 5 per cent. interest since the end of the war. If that is simple interest, the total becomes £84 million and, if compounded, £124 million. I recall that right hon. and hon. Members opposite chastised us violently for getting rid of prescription charges at the cost of £23 million a year. Now, however, they will vote for rich oil companies to get £124 million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.556.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.560.1", "colnum": "560", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "I am trying to find out why there is the difference of approach.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.560.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.564.2", "colnum": "564", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shell.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Of course, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. But the hon. Member has admitted that he is a shareholder in the Burmah Oil Company.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.564.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.564.2", "colnum": "564", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Of course, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. But the hon. Member has admitted that he is a shareholder in the Burmah Oil Company. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Shell.\"] The Shell Company is an interested party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.564.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.565.1", "colnum": "565", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. I asked the hon. Member very early on to make all his comments, in respect of this place or the other place, political. It is not in order for him to suggest that members of another place voted for improper motives.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.565.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.566.0", "colnum": "566", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "I am simply putting the facts on the record. If the hon. and learned Member for Northwich (Sir J. Foster) feels that there may be a guilty conscience somewhere, I cannot help that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.566.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.569.0", "colnum": "569", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And no more.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "y appeared to think, by the unearthing of precedents and seeking their application. In spite of his dredging, I do not consider that he has found a precedent which really covers this case. Even if he had, I should recommend the House not to follow it. Precedent is a decisive factor or circumstance in the administration of the law by the judges in the courts. Their function is to interpret the law—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.569.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.570.3", "colnum": "570", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not the point.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "They would have the merit which is the relevant merit in this case. They would have a legal decision of the courts in their favour—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.570.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.579.1", "colnum": "579", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorpe", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorpe", "preceding_text": "I agree that a Labour Government introduced that Measure, as I have admitted in the past. I pay tribute to the party opposite for having introduced it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.579.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.582.1", "colnum": "582", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorpe", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Did he issue a writ?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorpe", "preceding_text": "poration. We are dealing, for example, with an individual—Mr. Alexander Dewar—whose workshops were destroyed and thrown into the Irawaddy at Syriam, during the war. He was not able to claim. He did not come in under the rehabilitation payment. Therefore, we are not dealing solely with great powerful corporations. We are dealing with at least one individual and, for aught I know, there may be more.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.582.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.592.0", "colnum": "592", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Gardner", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Gardner", "preceding_text": "uld begin to suspect that his views were in any way prejudiced. It may well be the fact that some people who do not have any shares are affected by the absence of holding any shares and take a poor view of this and that it has prejudiced them. May I make it clear that the rich oil company which he feels so hostile to is, in fact, a company in which thousands of people holding very small interests—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.592.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.596.3", "colnum": "596", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gardner", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gardner", "preceding_text": "e there is an argument for increasing it, but it has nothing to do with this aspect of our debate. In fact, the Burmah Oil Co.—I know that this is disputed by many hon. Members opposite—can have no compensation, none at all. The £4¾ million that was supposed to have been paid as compensation was not paid as compensation at all. It was money paid for rehabilitation—something quite different.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.596.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-12", "file": "debates1965-05-12a.xml", "sha256": "a4db8d36b807f5b9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.596.3", "colnum": "596", "heading": "Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF RIGHTS AT COMMON LAW TO COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUC-TION OF, PROPERTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gardner", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gardner", "preceding_text": " of our debate. In fact, the Burmah Oil Co.—I know that this is disputed by many hon. Members opposite—can have no compensation, none at all. The £4¾ million that was supposed to have been paid as compensation was not paid as compensation at all. It was money paid for rehabilitation—something quite different. [ Laughter. ] Hon. Members opposite must be able to appreciate these distinctions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-12a.596.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.682.5", "colnum": "682", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Howell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about some action.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Howell", "preceding_text": "I am delighted with that supplementary question. I have made three speeches on this subject during the last month.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.682.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.695.5", "colnum": "695", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "preceding_text": "On the general question, may I ask the Prime Minister whether there is any plan to use the tremendous spending power of the Government to help in a policy for the location of industry? For example, is it not much easier, by planning properly, to develop industries where they exist than to shift great industries from one part of the country to another. Is not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.695.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.697.0", "colnum": "697", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "It is only a year ago that we were hearing very much from the right hon. Gentleman about not taking single months.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.697.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.697.0", "colnum": "697", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Stationed?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " the figures were far larger in terms of the gap. With regard to the computers, I agree that of the relatively small but growing programme of Government computer orders in the 12 months before last October, the majority were for computers made in this country, though I think the right hon. Gentleman will agree that a considerable number were for American firms which were stationed in this country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.697.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.698.6", "colnum": "698", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to the hon. Member because his Question enabled me to get rid of one legend which has grown up, that all this began in my talks with President Johnson last December. The subject was never mentioned either then or in my visit in April.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.698.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.701.4", "colnum": "701", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Woodrow?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "st from the Liberal Party, last year and the year before about the lists year after year of baronetcies and knighthoods for Members of this House. There was a good deal of suspicion about the way in which this was linked to the activities of the Government Whips. While I do not see that it would be right to abolish the practice of annual honours in general, I can give my hon. Friend the assurance—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.701.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.701.4", "colnum": "701", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ore about the lists year after year of baronetcies and knighthoods for Members of this House. There was a good deal of suspicion about the way in which this was linked to the activities of the Government Whips. While I do not see that it would be right to abolish the practice of annual honours in general, I can give my hon. Friend the assurance—[An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Woodrow?\"]—Wait and see.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.701.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.701.5", "colnum": "701", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Leyton.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "s will not be used for political purposes, so far as knighthoods and baronetcies for Members of this House are concerned. With regard to the question which was shouted at me, I can certainly say—I do not think that this could be said by successive Patronage Secretaries on that side—that at no point since we came into office have any political honours been dangled in return for political behaviour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.701.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.702.2", "colnum": "702", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "Did the Prime Minister have to ask his own Patronage Secretary to stay away while he talks such nonsense so that he should not be contradicted?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.702.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.705.3", "colnum": "705", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Woodburn", "preceding_text": "In view of the possibility of protracted debates on the Finance Bill next week, will my right hon. Friend, through the usual channels, consider whether the House, in its dignity, ought to allow hon. Members to risk death by being brought here in ambulances and by other means to vote when they could pair and by that means stay in bed, with the same result in the voting Lobby?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.705.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.755.4", "colnum": "755", "heading": "BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "preceding_text": "see the Director-General as a result of complaints which I had received from constituents. It is not entirely improper that I should give an extract—although I am not relating the exact words used—of our conversation, because it illustrates the problem which faces the Committee. After we had discussed the matter for some time the Director-General asked, \"What was wrong with last week's programme?\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.755.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.755.8", "colnum": "755", "heading": "BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "preceding_text": "ondly, many parents would not wish to have children referred to as 'little bleeders' on television, especially when children were present, as they were likely to be.\" I invite the Committee to consider the Director-General's reply. He said, \"You know, I have children, but it has never occurred to me to think that there was anything objectionable in children being referred to as 'little bleeders'.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.755.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.792.1", "colnum": "792", "heading": "BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Steel", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Steel", "preceding_text": "eiterate the point made frequently by my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Liberal Party that the output of broadcasting from Scotland to the rest of the country and the rest of the world seems to fall into two categories. One is the 1920 picture of Scotland as seen in, \"Dr. Finlay's Casebook\". The other is the sort of kilted dressed Andy Stewart type of programme, which certainly has its place—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.792.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.1", "colnum": "820", "heading": "BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "What a very stupid argument. I think that it is my duty to watch this sort of programme.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.3", "colnum": "820", "heading": "BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Gibson-Watt", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A Scotsman.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Gibson-Watt", "preceding_text": "ct remains that the Government have now been in for six months. We hope that the right hon. Gentleman will be able to say a little more than the Postmaster-General said earlier. When we consider the question of telecommunications we are aware that Britain first produced television. We led in the field, although it is difficult to convince any American that it was Britain which took the first step.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.3", "colnum": "820", "heading": "BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Gibson-Watt", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Gibson-Watt", "preceding_text": "-General said earlier. When we consider the question of telecommunications we are aware that Britain first produced television. We led in the field, although it is difficult to convince any American that it was Britain which took the first step. [An HON. MEMBER: \"A Scotsman.\"] I am told that it was a Scotsman. The Scots were responsible for many things, including the invention of the steam engine.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.3", "colnum": "820", "heading": "BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Gibson-Watt", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. Gentleman never saw it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Gibson-Watt", "preceding_text": "s in the House I have criticised the B.B.C. over religious programmes. It would not be out of place, possibly, if on this occasion I supported them. The new Director of Religious Programmes is fairly new to the job. He has not been there long, but those who know him have a very high opinion of him. This programme appeared, I believe, at 7.50 in the morning. I will not pretend that I always saw it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-13", "file": "debates1965-05-13a.xml", "sha256": "ba44b8001a5532ca", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.3", "colnum": "820", "heading": "BROADCASTING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Gibson-Watt", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"One would hear it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Gibson-Watt", "preceding_text": "ctor of Religious Programmes is fairly new to the job. He has not been there long, but those who know him have a very high opinion of him. This programme appeared, I believe, at 7.50 in the morning. I will not pretend that I always saw it—[HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. Gentleman never saw it.\"]—I am grateful to hon. Members opposite for saying that, because it is obvious that some of them do not see it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-13a.820.3"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-14", "file": "debates1965-05-14a.xml", "sha256": "2236ec2410dbf409", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-14a.964.11", "colnum": "964", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FARM AND GARDEN CHEMICALS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Bill committed to a Standing Committee pursuant to Standing Order No. 40 ( Committal of Bills ).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-14a.964.9"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-14", "file": "debates1965-05-14a.xml", "sha256": "2236ec2410dbf409", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-14a.966.10", "colnum": "966", "heading": "Orders of the Day — GUARDIANSHIP OF INFANTS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Order for Second Reading read.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-14a.966.9"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.992.7", "colnum": "992", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PAYMASTER-GENERAL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "We did.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member knows quite well that if he wishes to question the nature of my duties he should put a Question down to my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.992.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.994.2", "colnum": "994", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PAYMASTER-GENERAL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Address the Chair.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I am obliged to my right hon. Friend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.994.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.994.3", "colnum": "994", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PAYMASTER-GENERAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I beg your pardon and that of the House, Mr. Speaker. I am obliged to my right hon. Friend for his remarks. If I am being gunned for by the Conservative Party I regard that as no greater compliment, because I am no pseudo-Tory. I hate their guts, I always have and I always shall.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.994.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.994.6", "colnum": "994", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PAYMASTER-GENERAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Is there anything that you or the House can do to protect the reputation of the House from the kind of behaviour—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.994.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.996.1", "colnum": "996", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PAYMASTER-GENERAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wigg", "preceding_text": "I could give an answer, but I prefer to give an accurate one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.996.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.996.4", "colnum": "996", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PAYMASTER-GENERAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. J. Irvine", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. J. Irvine", "preceding_text": "Is it not perfectly clear that the Question about regular publications is full of ambiguity and that nobody knows the real answer?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.996.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.998.0", "colnum": "998", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PAYMASTER-GENERAL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Renton", "preceding_text": "In view of the right hon. Gentleman's apparent unwillingness to perform the duties for which he was seconded to the Government, has not the time come for him to be sent back to his regiment?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.998.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1003.7", "colnum": "1003", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOSPITALS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "Has not this country reason to be grateful for the presence of this mission in Vietnam?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1003.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1014.0", "colnum": "1014", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "saying that we are beginning consideration of a long and complex Bill. I am sure that the Committee is glad that the Chancellor has been able to come here to move this procedural Motion. There must have been many on both sides of the Committee who, over the week-end, were wondering whether he would be able to be with us and whether he would move this Motion or withdraw the Finance Bill altogether.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1014.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1035.1", "colnum": "1035", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Grimond", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What did the Liberals say last year?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Grimond", "preceding_text": "f course, marginally raise the cost of living, but what was that, he asked. He said: The effect of increasing the beer duty is one-fifth of a point—a variation which quite a minor fluctuation in the price of vegetables can produce.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 2nd June, 1964; Vol. 695, cc. 948, 951.] So we have been through all this before. The only difference this time is that the minuet has changed sides.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1035.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1039.2", "colnum": "1039", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "Like the Leader of the Liberal Party, I have a distillery in my constituency, but I do not think that I am entitled to place constituency interests before the interests of the nation as a whole.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1039.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1049.7", "colnum": "1049", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Julian Ridsdale", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Julian Ridsdale", "preceding_text": "s saying then, surely we should bear in mind now the comparability between the high price of spirits and the accessibility and price of drugs. Has not the Chancellor done absolutely nothing to help the arguments which he adduced last year? I have been impressed with the remarks that have been made about the harmful effect of the high prices of spirits, including British wines, on our export trade.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1049.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1054.0", "colnum": "1054", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": "y right hon. Friend the Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath), with his Resale Prices Act, has helped the Chancellor here. As a result of that Measure, whisky came down about 5s. a bottle in the supermarkets. That has more or less levelled out the new taxation, but I have no doubt that the price of whisky will again creep up to that charged in the off-licences. The Chancellor is a fairly level-headed man—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1054.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1059.1", "colnum": "1059", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Captain Elliot", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Elliot", "preceding_text": "he reverse effect. These increases do not penalise only the rich. Back bench Members and members of the Government have had a large increase in their salary. They will not feel the weight of these impositions. Those who will feel the weight are the old-age pensioners, the poor, and the retired people with modest incomes. Those old, lonely people who have a glass of wine, spirits or beer as solace—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1059.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1066.1", "colnum": "1066", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "lves. Quite apart from the happy social effects that wine drinking can have, which will be certainly injured by these increases, there is also the medicinal side of the picture. Wines in moderation are frequently prescribed for circulatory diseases. If one has a reduced circulation in the peripheries a little alcohol added to the bloodstream can dilate the capillaries and have a beneficial effect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1066.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1074.1", "colnum": "1074", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "l—that there is bound to be an extra weighting to the wage claims which are put forward. The First Secretary of State is always talking about percentages—3 per cent., 100 per cent., 4 per cent.—and various numbers and things like that. One of my hon. Friends has spoken of the steel industry. We know that in that industry people who have a heavy perspiration loss need beer to make up for that loss.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1074.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1081.5", "colnum": "1081", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "ings which the right hon. Gentleman is doing in terms of his financial policies within this Budget, and the whole emphasis is on indirect taxation and especially on this form, which, as he rightly pointed out last year, has a considerable effect on the cost-of-living index. Will the right hon. Gentleman explain, particularly in view of the quotation which he made last year about Mr. Frank Cousins—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1081.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1097.3", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "You know that I do not mean you, Sir Samuel. I can only deal with one at a time. If we are to run this Finance Bill in a reasonable way, I hope that the right hon. Gentleman will accept the normal convention that when there have been two speeches from the Front Bench, at least as far as the Front Benches are concerned, we should then vote.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1097.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1107.0", "colnum": "1107", "heading": "Clause 1.—(INCREASE OF DUTIES ON SPIRITS, BEER, WINE, BRITISH WINE, AND TOBACCO.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "preceding_text": " has not thought. He said that it would drive people away from smoking cigarettes to the smoking of pipes. That is all very well for men. I suppose men would go back to Victorian and Edwardian habits, every man would be smoking a pipe, wearing a long beard and a tall silk hat as they used to do in this House, but what about the women? Are we to drive women into smoking pipes instead of cigarettes?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1107.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-17", "file": "debates1965-05-17a.xml", "sha256": "e95f727e069a6af4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1136.3", "colnum": "1136", "heading": "Clause 2.—(AMENDMENTS AS TO RELIEF FROM IMPORT DUTIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "peaking about helping this industry, and one has got the impression that it is new aircraft with which we are concerned. But in fact this would bring in the repair of aircraft and hovercraft, which is an important matter. My hon. Friend the Member for Belfast, East (Mr. McMaster) has a very personal interest in the aircraft industry and he has never hesitated to say exactly what he feels about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-17a.1136.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1206.4", "colnum": "1206", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Mr. Wigg.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1206.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1210.2", "colnum": "1210", "heading": "GOVERNMENT PAPERS (SECURITY)", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Whatever the merits or demerits", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1210.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1219.1", "colnum": "1219", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Lewis", "preceding_text": "Would the hon. and learned Gentleman agree that members of the legal profession should be allowed to leave the legal organisations and carry on their jobs without any hindrance?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1219.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1222.1", "colnum": "1222", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. That shows how difficult some of us find it to do mental arithmetic—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1222.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1227.1", "colnum": "1227", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mawby", "preceding_text": "es not take the requisite action, that is, move the man to a job where he works on his own, or sack him, then they would give due notice as required and take strike action. In those circumstances, the Bill is not needed because those people are acting in a proper fashion and no court of law would interfere. I am sorry that the hon. Member for Watford (Mr. Raphael Tuck) appears to have a head ache.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1227.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1235.0", "colnum": "1235", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Raymond Gower", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Raymond Gower", "preceding_text": "f working in his own trade? I do not believe that hon. Gentlemen opposite have really considered the possibility of a new kind of tyranny. Many people are willing to acknowledge that in the past the tyranny was in the opposite direction. Far too often there has been a minority of unworthy employers who have had a bad record in relation to the recognition of the proper functions of trade unionists.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1235.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1240.0", "colnum": "1240", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Winterbottom", "preceding_text": ". Gower) so eloquently pleads. An hon. Gentleman opposite accepted the right of men to withdraw their labour, and not to work with a non-unionist. Then the hon. Member said, \"But, you know, there comes a point where, in effect, there is a threat made to the employer.\" This new Clause goes beyond anything in the nature of a threat to an employer. It is challenging the right even to withdraw labour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1240.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1246.1", "colnum": "1246", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "preceding_text": "I was simply suggesting, as I think that the Minister will accept, that the Bill makes it legal for individuals, for groups, or for a union to use intimidation to force others to join a trade union. That is clear. This is the argument which was adduced in Committee. The Bill makes it legal for people to do that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1246.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1273.2", "colnum": "1273", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Lionel Heald", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Lionel Heald", "preceding_text": "unofficial strike action, in such a way that it cannot afterwards be said that Parliament has approved that immunity should be given in these cases. We cannot expect him to give us anything today, first because of the words, and second because, though we appreciate that he is very receptive over these matters, he might find himself restrained by his master's voice from taking any immediate action.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1273.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1278.1", "colnum": "1278", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Wilkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Wilkins", "preceding_text": "means of Amendments and new Clauses—one of which we have just defeated—hon. Gentlemen opposite allege that they wish to protect the rights of minorities. The trouble is that they would, at the same time—perhaps unintentionally—do a tremendous amount of damage to trade unionists and particularly to trade union officials who try to conduct the business of their unions on proper constitutional lines.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1278.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1334.1", "colnum": "1334", "heading": "AGRICULTURE (FERTILISERS SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Perhaps he will try to catch your eye, Mr. Speaker, at a later date—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1334.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1346.3", "colnum": "1346", "heading": "AGRICULTURE (FERTILISERS SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Mackie", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Mackie", "preceding_text": " them really overstepped the bounds. The first point made by hon. Members opposite was their claim that this Scheme represents a disaster for the farmers and that it will make them bankrupt overnight. There are 32 million acres of grass and crops in the country. Divide that up and it works out at exactly 1s. 3d. an acre. I do not know whether that will bankrupt the farmers, but that is the figure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1346.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-18", "file": "debates1965-05-18a.xml", "sha256": "e9cfa94d2ad45f79", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1349.2", "colnum": "1349", "heading": "AGRICULTURE (FERTILISERS SCHEME)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mackie", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mackie", "preceding_text": "I said that I would take note of it and go into the matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-18a.1349.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1371.10", "colnum": "1371", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "ay that the bells were in working order. I say \"happy\" as I welcome the opportunity which this gives me of paying a tribute, which I know both sides of the Committee would wish to support, to the servants of the House to whose devoted labours every hon. and right hon. Member is deeply indebted every day, and whatever divisions there are in the Committee there are certainly no divisions about that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1371.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1381.1", "colnum": "1381", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wrecking?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "ative words will serve. Then comes the simple question of mechanics, in which there is no real problem of how to put back the word \"life\" if that be considered the only course. In the case of the Education Act, the then Prime Minister's action and proposal set the perfectly good precedent of leaving a blank and filling it on Report. This and any other wrecking Amendment may be carried or defeated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1381.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1391.0", "colnum": "1391", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "ords which is not a report of the Bill but a piece of nonsense made out of the Bill—and made out of the Bill by whom? The hon. and learned Member for Northampton (Mr. Paget)—who never seems to be able to tear himself away from his more intimate conversations to pay some attention to what the Committee is trying to do—introduced the word \"wrecking\". If the Bill is wrecked, who will have wrecked it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1391.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1391.0", "colnum": "1391", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "e Bill is not now afloat. It cannot be reported. It is not in a position in which it could be reported. There is much else which could be said about this. I apologise to my right hon. Friend the Member for Ashford (Mr. Deedes), because, by implication, he has said all this already, and perhaps I should not have said it again in a rather different and directer way. But I thought it was worth doing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1391.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1394.2", "colnum": "1394", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "e precedent to which the hon. Member refers. But it is not a particularly apposite precedent to these matters, for the reasons which were advanced very well by my right hon. Friend the Member for Carlton (Sir K. Pickthorn). What we are here dealing with is a matter of great concern to the House of Commons as a whole, namely, to try to make some sense of the Bill. I welcome the Home Secretary back.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1394.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1397.1", "colnum": "1397", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "Just one moment, please. Let me finish. I am very glad to see that the hon. Lady has heard the Division bell this morning.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1397.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1402.0", "colnum": "1402", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": " which produced an inconsistent result, but that is the way the Committee voted—surely it behoves us all, and it is in the interest of those who take any view about this matter, to report the Bill as soon as we can. I was asked whether I would give an undertaking that there will be adequate time. I can give an undertaking that the Government will give time for Report and Third Reading on the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1402.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1402.0", "colnum": "1402", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "l be adequate time. I can give an undertaking that the Government will give time for Report and Third Reading on the Bill. [ Interruption. ] What is adequate depends upon the number of Amendments and the time which the Chair thinks is reasonable to discuss them. Obviously, that time must be on the Floor of the House. It will not be in the morning. It will be in Government time in the ordinary way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1402.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1404.0", "colnum": "1404", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "preceding_text": "consequences of proceeding in either way. The right hon. and learned Gentleman suggested that it would be best to leave the matter and discuss these questions of life imprisonment on Report rather than now. I would be prepared, if the Committee thought it right, to ask leave to withdraw the Amendment and proceed in that way. Having had this discussion, I beg to ask leave to withdraw the Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1403.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1407.1", "colnum": "1407", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "preceding_text": "rnment find the time to give it a Second Reading in such a way as to allow it to jump the queue of Private Member's Bills. Without continuing on that line, because all these facts are known to the Committee, I add that it is not every Private Member's Bill which, in Committee, has the Home Secretary and two other Ministers present in the Committee. Responsibility is squarely put on the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1407.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1417.1", "colnum": "1417", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 1.—(ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Percival", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Percival", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman has really only drawn attention to further anomalies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1417.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1441.4", "colnum": "1441", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shepherd", "preceding_text": "In formulating policy, will the Minister bear in mind our adverse trading balance of well over £250 million with Canada last year?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1441.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1446.5", "colnum": "1446", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend knows that I am anxious to see—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1446.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1457.2", "colnum": "1457", "heading": "POSTAGE STAMPS (SHORTAGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the position in the House?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "preceding_text": "The position varies from region to region—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1457.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1461.6", "colnum": "1461", "heading": "Clause 4.—(CONTINUATION OF POWERS UNDER S. 9 OF FINANCE ACT 1961.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "aving put forward such a half-baked Bill, last night had to put in 72 Amendments, which appear on the Notice Paper today, although we have reached only Clause 3. The 72 Amendments concern the rest of the Bill. This has obviously prevented the Notice Paper's being printed in time to have it sent round to Members so that they can give it proper consideration. This is a gross disservice to the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1461.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1462.4", "colnum": "1462", "heading": "Clause 4.—(CONTINUATION OF POWERS UNDER S. 9 OF FINANCE ACT 1961.)", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Four?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "clear to me that the Paper as printed before is exactly the same as today, except for four Amendments, three of which were put down by the supporters of the right hon. Member for Bexley and one of which was put down by a Government supporter. I would regard it as very unfortunate if the talents of the Opposition were so strained that they could not master the contents of those four new Amendments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1462.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1485.0", "colnum": "1485", "heading": "Clause 4.—(CONTINUATION OF POWERS UNDER S. 9 OF FINANCE ACT 1961.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": "During the course of the debate hon. and right hon. Gentlemen opposite have complained from time to time that there have not been many hon. Members on this side of the Committee listening to them. We all know this somewhat mock indignation for the sham that it is, but I believe that they and the wider public outside are entitled to know why some of my hon. Friends have not been listening.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1485.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1485.0", "colnum": "1485", "heading": "Clause 4.—(CONTINUATION OF POWERS UNDER S. 9 OF FINANCE ACT 1961.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Eleven.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": " from time to time that there have not been many hon. Members on this side of the Committee listening to them. We all know this somewhat mock indignation for the sham that it is, but I believe that they and the wider public outside are entitled to know why some of my hon. Friends have not been listening. [ Interruption. ] I can speak for myself and I intend to do so. There are many others like me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1485.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1488.2", "colnum": "1488", "heading": "Clause 4.—(CONTINUATION OF POWERS UNDER S. 9 OF FINANCE ACT 1961.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. J. Maxwell-Hyslop", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. J. Maxwell-Hyslop", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Hynd. Could we have at least 40 Members present—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1488.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1490.1", "colnum": "1490", "heading": "Clause 4.—(CONTINUATION OF POWERS UNDER S. 9 OF FINANCE ACT 1961.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " of payments under control and the deficit is twice as large as it was in 1961, the measure of adjustments which must be made is correspondingly more severe. I can assure the hon. Gentleman, if it is any comfort to him, that no one will rejoice more than I myself when I can come to the House and say that, at long last, I have shrugged off the Conservative inheritance and can begin to reduce taxes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1490.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1490.1", "colnum": "1490", "heading": "Clause 4.—(CONTINUATION OF POWERS UNDER S. 9 OF FINANCE ACT 1961.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "e made is correspondingly more severe. I can assure the hon. Gentleman, if it is any comfort to him, that no one will rejoice more than I myself when I can come to the House and say that, at long last, I have shrugged off the Conservative inheritance and can begin to reduce taxes. [ Interruption. ] I do not expect hon. Members opposite to like it, but it is a fact and they know it as well as I do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1490.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1493.3", "colnum": "1493", "heading": "Clause 4.—(CONTINUATION OF POWERS UNDER S. 9 OF FINANCE ACT 1961.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ezes and two letters to the Bank of England is far more severe than we have had before. The right hon. Gentleman is perfectly aware, when he talks of a deficit of £800 million in the calendar year 1964, that ten months of that year were already gone when he came to office and that the deficit which had developed had already been handled by my right hon. Friend the Member for Barnet (Mr. Maudling).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1493.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1496.5", "colnum": "1496", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": " for cars when they get around to it. That is one possible explanation of this extraordinary and, on the face of it, unjustifiable contrast between the treatment of those who own and use motor cycles and those who own and use other forms of passenger vehicles. 5.30 p.m. It is possible, however, that the Chancellor of the Exchequer simply thought, \"These are very small figures—only a pound or two\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1496.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1502.6", "colnum": "1502", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": " no increase in taxation. How can the Government have the face to come along—and very few of them have and we had only one hon. Member opposite until about 10 minutes ago, but I imagine that the Whips have been rustling up a few more and we are glad to see them and we hope that they will make their contributions to these matters which affect the cost of living of the poorest people in the country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1502.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1508.0", "colnum": "1508", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. Gresham Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. Gresham Cooke", "preceding_text": " in every way an advantage in enabling people to get to and from work. As my hon. Friend the Member for St. Albans (Mr. Goodhew) said, this is the worst moment to hit the motor cycle industry, because it has had nothing like the good fortune of the motor industry. Production in the motor cycle industry at home has been going down year by year. This year it produced only a small number of vehicles.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1508.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1509.2", "colnum": "1509", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Hamling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamling", "preceding_text": "s that all motor cyclists are still poor after 13 years of glorious Tory rule. This concern for motor cyclists is spurious. If the Conservatives had been in power they would have applied the regulator, which would have meant an increased Purchase Tax on motor cycles, which would have been far more than a mere modest increase of tax such as that which my right hon. Friend has imposed in his Budget.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1509.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1535.7", "colnum": "1535", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": "are part of the psychology which explains this taxation. They are fallacies to which wide currency is given, and it is important that it be understood that neither has any substance. I take the second first, the notion that, if one taxes road transport, one will produce a dramatic rearrangement of freight so that great masses of it will go back on to the railways. This is a complete misconception.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1535.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1550.0", "colnum": "1550", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "preceding_text": "I understand that we are also discussing Amendment No. 10, the purpose of which is to confine the duty increases to England and Wales. The Amendment has been tabled in the name of myself and other members of the Scottish Liberal Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1550.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1555.5", "colnum": "1555", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "HON. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Where is he?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bruce-Gardyne", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that the hon. Gentleman's appetite comes before the consideration of the serious matter which is before the Committee at the moment. I believe that it would be far better to devote attention to the Amendment moved by my right hon. Friend the Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Mr. Powell)——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1555.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1560.0", "colnum": "1560", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "Is it not a pity that there is nobody from the Ministry of Agriculture here to deal with this subject?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1560.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1581.0", "colnum": "1581", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Steel", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Steel", "preceding_text": "y are dependent upon the private car for transport, to put on this heavy increase in areas where it is not a luxury but where such people as agricultural workers who do not enjoy a high standard of living maintain a motor vehicle as a social necessity. We have now reached a position in which the annual rate of duty to be charged on a vehicle will often be more than the value of the vehicle itself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1581.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1581.0", "colnum": "1581", "heading": "Clause 5.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: INCREASES AND ALTERATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Steel", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Steel", "preceding_text": "do it by imposing a greater increase in certain overcrowded areas and maintaining the present rate or lowering it in other parts of the country such as Scotland? The hon. Member for Glasgow, Hill-head (Mr. Galbraith) made several remarks with which I agree, but one thing that did not surprise me was that throughout the debate never more than two or three Scottish Conservative Members were present.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1581.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1592.1", "colnum": "1592", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": " defer his payment and his renewal until a time when the rates may have been altered. It is surely common knowledge when Budget day is, and anyone renewing his licence must realise that if he fails to renew during those six days he is running the risk that the licence fee may be increased. Equally, of course, he might calculate the other way and think that perhaps the licence fee will be reduced.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1592.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1596.0", "colnum": "1596", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Hirst", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Hirst", "preceding_text": "I am sorry to intervene because I am not anxious to prolong the discussion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1596.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1596.2", "colnum": "1596", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hirst", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"0h.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hirst", "preceding_text": "a concession, but the British public have considered this 14-day period as a concession. It has been respected and used with great wisdom to the mutual advantage of the authorities and the public. The public have accepted it in good faith and they have believed and had every reason to believe, that when they posted their applications or were about to do so this trick would not be played upon them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1596.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1598.0", "colnum": "1598", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "I do not propose to delay the Committee more than a moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1598.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1603.1", "colnum": "1603", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "of 58 per cent. in wages during this period. This is the sector of the industry which is being asked to sustain and contain increases in duties and costs. In transport debates we are frequently addressed by hon. Members who represent railway workshop towns. I think of one father and son, both renowned Members, who represent Derby, South (Mr. Philip Noel-Baker) and Swindon (Mr. Francis Noel-Baker).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1603.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1605.3", "colnum": "1605", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Jenkin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Jenkin", "preceding_text": "es for the movement of coal traffic. There is reference to concentration in new coal depots, as we have seen around London, for example, at West Drayton. This is bound to lead to the increased movement of coal by road in the interests of economy—but then the economy is swept away by the substantial tax increases which the Bill seeks to make. I will not weary the Committee by giving other examples.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1605.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1605.3", "colnum": "1605", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Jenkin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Jenkin", "preceding_text": "ased movement of coal by road in the interests of economy—but then the economy is swept away by the substantial tax increases which the Bill seeks to make. I will not weary the Committee by giving other examples. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"] I am grateful to my right hon. and hon. Friends for their interest. This increase in taxation is calculated to defeat the objectives of the Minister of Transport.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1605.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1608.0", "colnum": "1608", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Toryism?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "preceding_text": "I am glad to rise at this stage to oppose this Clause. I am glad that my hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare (Mr. Webster) gave the Committee such welcome detail and made out such a good case against the inflationary effects of the Clause. He can hardly claim to represent a great industrial area—I am sorry if my hon. Friend seems upset by that—but his chief industry is tourism.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1608.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1610.3", "colnum": "1610", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "preceding_text": "nderstand why, when they refer to them as the \"gnomes of Zurich\", those bankers react against them. They are so prejudiced against the City that when they make nasty noises about it they are surprised that the City should react badly against their policies. They are prejudiced against private enterprise, shareholders and speculators. They do not understand that the prosperity which they inherited—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1610.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-19", "file": "debates1965-05-19a.xml", "sha256": "8286341c9b050a69", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1620.2", "colnum": "1620", "heading": "FINANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "hon. Gentleman to be protesting against even that and to be suggesting that there should have been no increase for the private motorist. I do not think that he has many of his hon. Friends with him, because most of the criticism so far during the debate has been that everyone else is having too heavy a duty imposed compared with the private motorist and that more should have been done against him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-19a.1620.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1653.3", "colnum": "1653", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not all of them.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "My right hon. Friend has drawn attention to a most offensive leaflet which right hon. and hon. Members have received.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1653.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1658.0", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It was a very good one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I always wonder what sort of laboured supplementary we shall get from the hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1658.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1664.0", "colnum": "1664", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jackson", "preceding_text": "Is the Prime Minister aware that, after his visits to Washington, Bonn, Paris and Rome, his visit to New Delhi will be greatly welcomed as a sign that Britain under a Labour Government has a vital rôle to play in peace-keeping in the Far East?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1663.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1664.5", "colnum": "1664", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Yes, the right hon. Gentleman had one visit to Moscow, when all the work had been done—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1664.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1664.7", "colnum": "1664", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Hon. Gentlemen opposite had better make up their minds where they want—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1664.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1694.0", "colnum": "1694", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 5.—(VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": "d otherwise is never on the public highway at all. The Financial Secretary may say that this is not a great increase from £2 10s. to £3 15s., but at the moment the small farmers are very hard pushed. They are getting a pretty miserable time at the hands of the Government. Yesterday, we had 75 farmers from Cheshire meeting us upstairs and I have never before seen them in the mood that they were in.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1694.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1695.1", "colnum": "1695", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 5.—(VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Address the Chair.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieut.-Colonel Sir Walter Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "It is always a very difficult task to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Macclesfield (Sir A. V. Harvey) in debate. I am his constituent and I am proud to be one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1695.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1696.7", "colnum": "1696", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 5.—(VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "I have never known—this is tedious repetition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1696.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1696.11", "colnum": "1696", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 5.—(VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "rs have to absorb these extra costs without fair increased charges to the consumer. 5.0 p.m. Why have farmers got these increased costs to bear? I will tell hon. Members opposite and give them the answer straight. We had an example yesterday of what I mean from my hon. Friend the Member for Macclesfield, and I say again today that, like the Paymaster-General, the Socialist Party hates the farmers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1696.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1699.1", "colnum": "1699", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 5.—(VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godman Irvine", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Better be careful.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godman Irvine", "preceding_text": "I did not vote for it. I am glad to take this opportunity of telling the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport that I took the precaution of not voting on that occasion, because I did not feel that it was the right thing to do. I still consider that that was the right decision.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1699.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1714.2", "colnum": "1714", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 5.—(VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bryant Godman Irvine", "preceding_text": "Could I assist the Financial Secretary——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1714.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1716.1", "colnum": "1716", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 5.—(VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY.)", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "I am going to advise my hon. Friends to divide the Committee on this Amendment, and on the other one, Mr. Hynd, on which we have a right to divide, because I feel this about it. I have great respect for the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, but he is, after all, only a lawyer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1716.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1735.1", "colnum": "1735", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 6.—(VEHICLES EXCISE DUTY: EXEMPTIONS AND RELIEFS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "preceding_text": "ions with the local authority associations. I stress the importance of road maintenance, as did the Parliamentary Secretary himself. In moving the Amendment I made special reference to specialist and purpose-built road maintenance vehicles. I believe that this matter should be looked at again before Report. As those vehicles fall directly into the category mentioned by the Parliamentary Secretary—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1735.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1821.1", "colnum": "1821", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 12.—(SURTAX ON INCOME UNDER CERTAIN SETTLEMENTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "Of course we shall, but let the hon. Member have no doubt about it, that we have no legal obligation to do it. Let us be clear about it, that what is being done by the Bill will make it easier for me to salve my conscience by being able to say, \"I have no obligation.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1821.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1821.1", "colnum": "1821", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 12.—(SURTAX ON INCOME UNDER CERTAIN SETTLEMENTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "r for me to salve my conscience by being able to say, \"I have no obligation.\" [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] Oh, yes, it is. Hon. Members can laugh this off as much as they like, but that is what is being done by the Bill. Of course, I shall not alter my mind about the obligation, but I might not have entered into it if the alteration which the Government are bringing in had been brought in some years ago.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1821.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1822.0", "colnum": "1822", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 12.—(SURTAX ON INCOME UNDER CERTAIN SETTLEMENTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grieve", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Burden?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grieve", "preceding_text": "Amendment in the Division Lobby as soon as possible. I wish to protest against the heartless sarcasm and derision with which the Financial Secretary treated the very human problem to which this Clause will give rise amongst many people who, at the most expensive time of their lives, when they are bringing up their own children, take upon themselves the additional burden of supporting aged parents.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1822.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1832.1", "colnum": "1832", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 13.—(WITHDRAWAL OF INITIAL ALLOWANCES FOR CARS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Snob.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "I do not know about the hon. Gentleman's friends, but very few of mine ride about in a van.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1832.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1836.3", "colnum": "1836", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 13.—(WITHDRAWAL OF INITIAL ALLOWANCES FOR CARS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "If that is a serious question, the answer is this; and it shows the difficulty of trying to draw a line. The precise answer is that mini-vans are sub judice at the moment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1836.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1842.2", "colnum": "1842", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What does it say?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "e. Then, of course, it is up to the director or employee to substantiate to the Revenue how he disburses his expenditure. To do this, the Revenue has been kind enough to supply every such taxpayer with a form called Form P.11D. This form is well-known to anybody who has an expense claim, and I am sure that the Committee would not like me at this late hour to read all that is contained in the form.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1842.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.0", "colnum": "1845", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "t with sufficient clarity. I am sure that the Chief Secretary followed it. I referred to the words in subsection (2), … of a kind and on a scale which is reasonable having regard to all the circumstances and said that they represented a new test for this sort of expenditure. I went on to point out that we wanted to know whether the Revenue considered that there was an abuse of entertaining—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.5", "colnum": "1845", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "s expenditure entertaining. Under this Clause as it stands, he will be surcharged some part of his entertaining expenses if he gets an allowance from his employer. 1.0 a.m. The anomalies that will be thrown up by this Clause are quite out of proportion to any benefit that the Government will get from it. What about theatreland? What will be the position in regard to the first night at the theatre?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.5", "colnum": "1845", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "d them that the theatre industry is a very good dollar earner for this country. On the normal first night very many free tickets are issued in order to get the critics there. What will be the position? Will there be a surcharge there? This may seem funny to hon. Members opposite, but it is a serious point. What about journalists, who have to entertain in the ordinary course of getting information?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.5", "colnum": "1845", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "ertain in the ordinary course of getting information? [ Laughter. ] It is all very well hon. Members opposite trying to laugh away their own mistakes, but let me assure them that these mistakes are realised in the country. One of the most flagrant anomalies that will be thrown up by this Clause if it is unamended is connected with the small professional firms—estate agents, surveyors, or the like—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.5", "colnum": "1845", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clark", "preceding_text": "rgument was that the Revenue was heavily subsidising these expenses. That is all very well, if he is right, but I think that it is incumbent on the Government to show what they will do about Government hospitality, and what they will do about the nationalised industries. We cannot have two laws. The law in the private section must also apply to the public section. There is no party issue in this.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1845.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1847.0", "colnum": "1847", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "It is not very often that a Member of Parliament can speak on a particular problem from personal experience. Many of us speak for certain sections of the public in debates because we have received a brief from an organisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1847.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1847.0", "colnum": "1847", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "y of us speak for certain sections of the public in debates because we have received a brief from an organisation. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Hon. Members opposite have done that for 12 years. There are very few cases in which an hon. Member speaks from actual personal experience, but I support this Amendment because I can speak from personal experience. My life has been spent in commercial activities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1847.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1847.0", "colnum": "1847", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "party is in power. What we are dealing with tonight in this Clause is a very minor point of taxation. The Government are using a sledge-hammer to crack somebody who is already covered by the law and all that has to be done is to be more stringent in applying the regulations. In the process of trying to do this the people who will be hit—and this is my criticism of the Budget—will be the small men.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1847.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1847.0", "colnum": "1847", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": " to crack somebody who is already covered by the law and all that has to be done is to be more stringent in applying the regulations. In the process of trying to do this the people who will be hit—and this is my criticism of the Budget—will be the small men. [ Interruption. ] No, I I am not talking about widows, except that in this modern age there are many widows who become commercial travellers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1847.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1849.5", "colnum": "1849", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": ", they cannot. Today, a commercial traveller does not park his car. He takes a showroom in an hotel. He invites his customers there. Customers go to the showroom because the traveller can do his business in no other way. Customers arrive at 11.30 to look at his merchandise. They have finished inspecting his samples by 12.45. The only decent thing he can do is to say, \"Will you have lunch with me?\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1849.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1850.4", "colnum": "1850", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "llow me now to make my speech. I would find it easier if hon. Members opposite were interested in the problem which the Clause will pose for many people. To go a stage further, we are now at lunchtime in the showroom. A customer is in the showroom at 12.45. The only decent, courteous thing for the traveller to do is to say, \"Mr. Jones, will you stay and have lunch?\" He is almost forced to do that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1850.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1850.4", "colnum": "1850", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "they are very stupid. If this debate is reported by the Press and they think that they will get more votes from it, they are showing how stupid they are, because this is how the commercial activity of a great part of our economy on the consumer side works. The Chief Secretary is not very pleased with his hon. Friends, because I am presenting a serious argument. That is what happens during the day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1850.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1850.4", "colnum": "1850", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "ight when I close my shop\". This is true. It happens every day. Hon. Members opposite need not think that the commercial traveller will think that they are very clever. The retailer will almost invariably say, \"I want to look at your collection, but I cannot come during shop hours because my wife and I must look after the shop. We will come to look at your collection as soon as we close the shop.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1850.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1851.1", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "Thank you very much for your help, Dr. King. I do hope hon. Members on the other side of the Committee will realise that I am being very serious about this, because it is a very serious problem. Now, these independent traders—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1851.3", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "s. Under this Clause, if passed without amendment, if he says at Bristol he can charge his hotel expenses as a legitimate expense. But if he gets more business, which must be good for the country, by going to Brighton and spending £1 on entertaining a customer, he has got to pay this out of his own pocket. He does not go to Brighton and he is now 24 hours behind. He is building up a decent income.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1851.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1852.1", "colnum": "1852", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "into a totally different tax bracket and makes his job worth while. Does not the Chief Secretary realise that unless note is taken of the Amendment the Government will do great damage to the ordinary commercial activities of a vast number of people and the Government will not increase national efficiency as they were pledged to do? I not ask the Chief Secretary necessarily to accept this Amendment", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1852.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1857.0", "colnum": "1857", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why do you not refuse?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": "worth while to have hon. Members opposite to lunch, not partly at the expense of the taxpayer but wholly at his expense. I have not noticed that hon. Members opposite are noticeably absent from such functions. Why is it that the C.O.I. and the Foreign Office hold these functions? Both of them have telephoned me to invite me to lunches at the total expense of the taxpayer. I am not exporting goods.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1857.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1865.3", "colnum": "1865", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman is wrong in that respect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1865.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1869.5", "colnum": "1869", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "an be. I recognise that there is a serious point here because certain individuals will find their tax bills different from what they were before. They want to be assured that the new system deals fairly as between taxpayer and taxpayer, which the old system did not. I am, therefore, demonstrating instances—only a few, I could give many more of the same kind—showing that under the law as it exists—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1869.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1870.0", "colnum": "1870", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "I do not wish to destroy the case made by the hon. Gentleman, but to bring four cases without any background is, I think he will agree, a little unfair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1870.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1871.0", "colnum": "1871", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "were put in a position of saying, \"I think that it is right to pay that girl £15 a week, I think that it is wrong to pay that man £12 a week, I think that it is wrong to incur that kind of business expenditure,\" it would be quite impossible. The Revenue never interferes. It is for the businessman to run his business his own way and the Revenue is concerned with the profits arising and taxes those.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1871.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1872.3", "colnum": "1872", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "Many at present succeed in establishing that it is business expenditure. This is what has happened. I am giving the Committee the cases to demonstrate that under the present——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1872.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1872.5", "colnum": "1872", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "But not \"necessarily\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "preceding_text": "The Chief Secretary has led the Committee to believe that \"necessarily\" is not in the Section. Indeed, it is not. In Section 137 the phrase used is wholly and exclusively laid out or expended for the purposes of the business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1872.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1874.3", "colnum": "1874", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ieves that it will encourage the business he wants to see. I think that everybody in this Committee agrees with him. He is absolutely right and he is justified in doing it. Until the Chief Secretary spoke I gave the Chancellor and his advisers credit for believing that by the phrasing of this subsection the Chancellor was instituting a system which would enable this to be carried on without abuse.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1874.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1881.0", "colnum": "1881", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "to the words at a later stage, but it would be most unwise to do that, with the Clause as it now stands, and it would be going further than the Government themselves wish to go. There has been some confusion about that, and that it ought to be cleared up. We have not yet discussed the real crux of the debate. The hon. Member for Putney (Mr. Hugh Jenkins) spoke about doing something to stop abuses—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1881.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1881.0", "colnum": "1881", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "e have not yet discussed the real crux of the debate. The hon. Member for Putney (Mr. Hugh Jenkins) spoke about doing something to stop abuses—[ Interruption .] Sir Samuel, the hon. Member who is almost undressed and just outside the Committee is talking in such a loud voice that I can hardly hear myself speak. If he is to come in in that state of sartorial disorder, he should at least keep quiet.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1881.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1881.0", "colnum": "1881", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "ng to stop abuses—[ Interruption .] Sir Samuel, the hon. Member who is almost undressed and just outside the Committee is talking in such a loud voice that I can hardly hear myself speak. If he is to come in in that state of sartorial disorder, he should at least keep quiet. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"] I am trying to address you, Sir Samuel. I was so much interrupted by the noise on my left—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1881.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1882.0", "colnum": "1882", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "us number of pieces of paper that will be involved, the system will be unworkable. Another question concerns definition of an overseas customer. The Bill contains such a definition, but no Amendments have been put down to that. However, this Amendment deals with overseas customers. We must define an overseas customer more clearly. Let us take the case of an American company with a subsidiary here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1882.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1884.4", "colnum": "1884", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Big stick.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "If I wanted to threaten the hon. Member, he would know that I was doing it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1884.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1884.5", "colnum": "1884", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": "mer\". Even if the companies were limited in America or France, there might well be a loophole. I should like the hon. Gentleman to consider the question and to tell me, tonight if possible, whether I am wrong in my interpretation or whether there is no need for me to worry, because worry I do. It must be made clear from this side that as a party we are not in favour of lavish expenses. Let me say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1884.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1884.5", "colnum": "1884", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir P. Roberts", "preceding_text": " must be made clear from this side that as a party we are not in favour of lavish expenses. Let me say—[ Laughter. ] It shows, Dr. King, the ignorance of hon. Members opposite who laugh. Let me tell them something else, because they look as if they are in a laughing mood. The average businessman who is any good, who is a good man and a good employer, does not like to see lavish expenditure either.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1884.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1900.2", "colnum": "1900", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "preceding_text": " of business over a meal. Some days it may be only a sandwich, but it is his meal, and he will find he is conducting some business with one of his colleagues or a member of his staff. That is what these so-called expense account meals are all about. I see that the hon. Member for Poplar (Mr. Mikardo) is in his place. I hope he will not leave the Chamber because I want to deal with him in a moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1900.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1902.1", "colnum": "1902", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": " to my hon. Friend the Member for Ormskirk (Sir D. Glover) that he should put his guests up in a comprehensive school in Bristol. What that had got to do with the argument I do not know. We can draw only one conclusion from what the Government are doing, and all the sneers and sniggers we have heard from hon. Members opposite are proof enough that it is right. There is a political content in this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1902.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1906.8", "colnum": "1906", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "Thank you, Sir Samuel. As the Committee will realise, the Amendment concerns a much narrower point than the Amendments we have been discussing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1906.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-20", "file": "debates1965-05-20a.xml", "sha256": "92bad95a0b6d962e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1906.8", "colnum": "1906", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 14.—(BUSINESS ENTERTAINING EXPENSES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "Thank you, Sir Samuel. As the Committee will realise, the Amendment concerns a much narrower point than the Amendments we have been discussing. [ Interruption. ] It concerns—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-20a.1906.8"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-21", "file": "debates1965-05-21a.xml", "sha256": "1fb4b426a4ed3e01", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-21a.2009.2", "colnum": "2009", "heading": "LAND COMPENSATION (AMENDMENT) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "preceding_text": "These figures are extremely interesting. Of course, we do not get that information on this side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-21a.2009.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.35.3", "colnum": "35", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scholefield Allen", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Honourable Members\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scholefield Allen", "preceding_text": "ation from the secretary of the National Farmers' Union to attend a meeting in Committee Room 14, which had been reserved for 3.30, in these terms: If you could arrange to meet us at that time we should be grateful. I have written to Mr. Orbach and Mr. Gregory who have also promised to do their best to attend. We all three attended at 3.30. There were four other Members of the other party present—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.35.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.37.4", "colnum": "37", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "\"Learned\", but not so learned from what we hear. The hon. and learned Member has accused me of using disgusting language, which I never use. There was one word I did not hear properly—I am a little deaf—but I understood that the word which it is alleged I used starts with an \"f\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.37.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.37.5", "colnum": "37", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "\"Learned\", but not so learned from what we hear. The hon. and learned Member has accused me of using disgusting language, which I never use. There was one word I did not hear properly—I am a little deaf—but I understood that the word which it is alleged I used starts with an \"f\". [ Interruption .] Did it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.37.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.48.5", "colnum": "48", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": "I only intervene because of the interesting attack made on this tax. It is right to begin by saying that I am not in favour of any Capital Gains Tax, short or long.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.48.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.63.4", "colnum": "63", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "the case for the Amendment. If there are these gentlemen who, following the Financial Times, decide that this is something by which they are greatly to lose, I should say that they are just as entitled to pay their taxes as anybody else. What will happen if this series of Amendments is carried and the Chancellor of the Exchequer does not have enough money to pay the farmers their annual subsidies?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.63.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.67.2", "colnum": "67", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General (Sir Dingle Foot)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General (Sir Dingle Foot)", "preceding_text": "een delivered in consideration of the Finance Bill of 1962. For example, the hon. Member for Worcester (Mr. Peter Walker) referred at some length—I am not complaining—to the recommendations of the Royal Commission on Taxation. Those recommendations were before the House in 1962. In both the Majority and Minority Reports the Royal Commission advised against any form of short-term Capital Gains Tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.67.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.69.1", "colnum": "69", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": "I have been dealing with the effect of the alteration. Nobody can dispute that we are to give the taxpayer a relief which he did not receive under the 1962 Act.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.69.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.72.2", "colnum": "72", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Six months.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": "bout the City of London or industry. He said that he did not get much criticism. All I can say is that he should read his Sunday newspapers. If he read half a dozen at random yesterday he would see that criticism is being directed at the Government from all sections of the electorate. The Solicitor-General said that he saw no difference between six months and 12 months. There is a vast difference.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.72.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.97.1", "colnum": "97", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hall", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hall", "preceding_text": "lover. It might increase in value even within 12 months. Indeed, since there seem to be curious movements in the art world, even within a few weeks there might be a direct capital appreciation. Certainly there will be a substantial appreciation some years later. That is a possible and feasible example. Such a collector will be very reluctant to put that work of art on show—that is all I am saying.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.97.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.101.3", "colnum": "101", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "ssessions. The Chancellor will lose only minute sums if he abandons the tax on personal possessions. I will readily support other means of taxing the same class of people in society. Let him raise the modest sum he can expect from this taxation by other means, from the same class of society, but do not raise it in this unfortunate manner where the making of revenue produces the maximum discomfort—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.101.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.107.1", "colnum": "107", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Terence L. Higgins", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about stags?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Terence L. Higgins", "preceding_text": "ment which the Financial Secretary has agreed to consider favourably. I turn to discuss Amendment No. 246, which is concerned with livestock. It is not, as far as I know, concerned with the question of \"bulls\" and \"bears\". It is certainly not concerned with the question of bears only. Possibly is it concerned with the question of bulls. Almost certainly it is concerned with the question of horses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.107.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.153.0", "colnum": "153", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "Its operation is practically confined, therefore, to gifts of securities. It is inherent in the whole principle of the Capital Gains Tax that a liability to the tax should accrue on the disposal of an asset. A gift must be treated as the disposal of an asset, just as disposal by way of sale or death, for this reason. Unless there were such a provision, the door would be wide open to tax avoidance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.153.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.153.0", "colnum": "153", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "e such provision, it would be open to anybody to avoid the liability to the Capital Gains Tax by making gifts one after another and passing securities on and thereby escaping the liability for the tax. Hon. Members in terms are suggesting that the exemption of £100 should be increased to £1,000. My own reaction when I first saw the subsection was to wonder why there was any exemption limit at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.153.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.157.2", "colnum": "157", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "The hon. and learned Member says that this is monstrous, but there is no change in this respect from the position under the 1962 Act. Precisely the same principle applies in respect of gifts or settlements under the 1962 Act—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.157.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.159.2", "colnum": "159", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Brinton", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Brinton", "preceding_text": "riend the Member for Horsham (Mr. Hordern) referred to the meanness of the Clause. It seems to me that one of the things we have to remember is the value of money. We are talking about £100 as the maximum gift to escape possible capital gains assessment. This is rather less than the price of a motorised pedal cycle and considerably less than the price of a new double bed, as I discovered recently.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.159.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.159.2", "colnum": "159", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir T. Brinton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about stamps?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir T. Brinton", "preceding_text": "s something less than the price of four cases of whisky, or, as I gather from a reply given to a Question by the hon. Lady the Member for Liverpool, Exchange (Mrs. Braddock), two cases of gin in this House. These are very small sums, and they are shrinking all the time. What could be bought for £100 last October would now cost £104, as those who have been watching the Retail Price Index will know.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.159.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.163.2", "colnum": "163", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "preceding_text": "e of the year to make a profit on a share transaction, that £12 10s gift will be subject to tax. Does the hon. Gentleman consider that to be a concession? Let me make it quite clear so that the Minister cannot duck the question. I am saying that under taxation law husband and wife are the same so that son and daughter-in-law, being husband and wife, are also the same. If any family wishes to give—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.163.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.177.6", "colnum": "177", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "Gentlemen opposite find it very difficult to justify their own case, it means that they are not taking the public along with them in their legislation. What is the argument for extending the period? We have not had any argument from the other side which has been convincing. We have had speech after speech on various Amendments from this side of the Committee which were overwhelming in their logic.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.177.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.177.6", "colnum": "177", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": " [ Laughter .] I am afraid that hon. Gentlemen opposite are not treating the Clause with the seriousness with which the public will. We have heard speech after speech, some from the other side of the Committee, criticising what is being done under the Clause. We have had no speeches from the Government back benches using any coherent argument why the Clause should be accepted in its present shape.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.177.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.177.6", "colnum": "177", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": " it. What I needed was some encouragement to believe that there was going to be some gain for my investment. It so happened that in my case I found it, because I invested when this country was prosperous; and so I have more money to invest because I thought it a good thing to do. Yet what the Chancellor is doing here is to make certain that the person who has, let us say, quarrelled with his wife—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.177.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.177.6", "colnum": "177", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "s had this quarrel because his wife has said, \"Let's have a jolly good holiday\" and he has said, \"No, we will invest our money and bring prosperity to ourselves over the years\". Then something happens and he has to sell the investment. He then finds that when he sells he will have the amount grossed up with his income. What an encouragement for a man to put away a pound or two pounds of his wages—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.177.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.184.1", "colnum": "184", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Mott-Radclyffe", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Mott-Radclyffe", "preceding_text": "That is what I want to ask. What was it worth on Budget day? When is a Stubbs a Stubbs—when it is painted, or when it is identified?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.184.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.184.2", "colnum": "184", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Anthony Fell", "preceding_text": "ember for Windsor (Sir C. Mott-Radclyffe) has been kind towards the Government Front Bench. What worries me about the Clause is that during the debate this evening we have had a series of messages being passed between the advisers and the Front Bench and it has become more and more clear that Ministers simply did not know the answers to all the various questions that were asked by my hon. Friends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.184.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-24", "file": "debates1965-05-24a.xml", "sha256": "6febdea20d0602c6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.199.0", "colnum": "199", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "sit again. We have been here since 3.30 and have disposed of five Amendments and one Clause. Although you have no view in the Chair, you may think, Sir Samuel, that progress is a relative term, but at least in Parliamentary language we have made progress. Whether we shall be able to make faster progress tomorrow will depend, I suppose, upon the length of the speeches and the nature of the replies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-24a.199.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.214.7", "colnum": "214", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "preceding_text": "Would my hon. Friend say what special arrangements are in operation at the power station at Barking? Is he aware that many of my constituents—including the wages clerks, who regret the present situation as much as anyone—are now drawing their pay more than a week late?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.214.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.216.7", "colnum": "216", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ridley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ridley", "preceding_text": "Is the Minister aware that he has been misleading the House about this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.216.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.217.0", "colnum": "217", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Nationalised.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "I will certainly not do anything of the sort. The figure of £400 million covers the Ministry's loans to R.T.B., which were £70 million—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.216.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.220.1", "colnum": "220", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Jenkin", "preceding_text": "Would the right hon. Gentleman repudiate the views of his hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Blackley (Mr. Rose) who suggested that the consumers should ultimately be deprived of choice, which obviously postulates a high degree of advertising?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.220.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.222.1", "colnum": "222", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "I certainly will. The fact, often lost sight of, is that if we had not nationalised the coal industry when we did there would not be a coal industry at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.222.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.227.7", "colnum": "227", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "I imagine that the Coal Board's large brick production is profitable.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.227.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.228.5", "colnum": "228", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "As the proposals for the Atlantic nuclear force seem to be meeting with such little support from our allies, and from the Prime Minister's allies on the Left wing of his own party, can the right hon. Gentleman tell the House, without being too laboured or long-winded about it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.228.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.233.1", "colnum": "233", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The United States Government and all others concerned know exactly what is the position of Her Majesty's Government on this, which I have made clear—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.233.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.234.4", "colnum": "234", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The double standards arise in the pretence that we have got the TSR2 or that it would be available in the time required. As my right hon. Friend and I have made clear many times, we are going through a very intensive review of our rôles in different possible theatres in relation to the cost, something which apparently our predecessors never did.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.234.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.241.6", "colnum": "241", "heading": "PERSONAL STATEMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "I hope that I shall not be out of order, Mr. Speaker, if, on behalf of the House, I thank the Chairman of Ways and Means for his charm and courtesy and full apology. May I ask for your help and advice, Mr. Speaker?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.241.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.242.0", "colnum": "242", "heading": "PERSONAL STATEMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. I do not want to criticise him. I am just putting my position. I am in a very unhappy position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.242.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.243.6", "colnum": "243", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Joel Barnett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Joel Barnett", "preceding_text": " and reduce the incidence of tax itself. From my experience, where the rates of tax are low there is a direct correlation with avoidance and evasion. This goes right throughout the tax system. We see it in Purchase Tax particularly. Where the tax rates are low, then the desire for avoidance is equally low and I would personally like to see a much wider tax base and a much lower tax rate generally.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.243.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.261.1", "colnum": "261", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": " shareholders who gave life to a company and that they and not the company were being taxed. I do not want to enter into a metaphysical argument about the philosophy of companies and their shareholders, but of course it is not the shareholders who give life to a company. It is the State which gives the corporate entity life. The limited company is a thing created by the State. If we are to assess—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.261.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.261.2", "colnum": "261", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speak up.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": "nter into a metaphysical argument about the philosophy of companies and their shareholders, but of course it is not the shareholders who give life to a company. It is the State which gives the corporate entity life. The limited company is a thing created by the State. If we are to assess—[ Interruption. ] If anyone wishes to make an intervention which is audible and intelligible, I shall give way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.261.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.285.1", "colnum": "285", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "The Chief Secretary is now trying to get off this on a small technical point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.285.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.312.2", "colnum": "312", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It does.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "preceding_text": "If that should happen", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.312.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.313.2", "colnum": "313", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "preceding_text": "motive behind the Amendments. I suggest for the consideration of Liberal Members that they should not get bogged down in trivialities about a shilling in the £; if they get bogged down at all they should get bogged down in the principles on which the Liberal Party was built in the past. The Liberals have given a great deal to this nation, but they are being hoodwinked for a little \"pot of potash\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.313.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.316.1", "colnum": "316", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "mention that. I will not go into it in more detail. The other point I wish to make concerns the effect of inflation. I have pointed out that it is possible for a person to pay 54½ per cent. tax on capital gains whereas the marginal rate at the top end of income, unless a person pays Surtax, is only 31·9 per cent. If assets are held over a period of time the 30 per cent. will be paid—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.316.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.317.3", "colnum": "317", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"They are not grumbling.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "nflation hits the worker as well as the capitalist. The trade unions have large funds invested in equities, on which they will pay Capital Gains Tax. I am not talking about pension funds. I am talking about their reserves, the balances which they hold against contingencies. They will pay 30 per cent. Capital Gains Tax on any realisation of those funds, even though they do not on the pension funds.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.317.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.320.0", "colnum": "320", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "y the hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock)—and deal with all the arguments which have been put that I am not anxious to give way. If the hon. Member will have a little patience and see whether I meet the various points first, I suggest that it would save time. I am not one who tends to shirk giving way. I give way a great deal, but I find that I tend to waste time by giving way as much as I do—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.320.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.326.1", "colnum": "326", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "Of course it is—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.326.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.347.1", "colnum": "347", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "preceding_text": "usly affected. I shall give one or two examples. Suppose a man has started a business and worked it up to provide a reasonable standard of living. He may ask himself, \"Should I expand the business or not?\" Why should he bother to expand it when, if he works and strives to expand his business, he will not be working for himself and for benefit in his old age but for the Chancellor of the Exchequer?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.347.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.365.1", "colnum": "365", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. R. Rees-Davies", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. R. Rees-Davies", "preceding_text": "e. There is one other matter which has not been adverted to. The Amendment of my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Chertsey (Sir L. Heald), Amendment No. 349, deals with the position when someone has bought an asset and held it for a period of ten years or more. My right hon. and learned Friend was arguing that in such an event it ought not to be a chargeable gain nor a computable loss.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.365.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.365.1", "colnum": "365", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. R. Rees-Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We are buying racehorses.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. R. Rees-Davies", "preceding_text": "someone has bought an asset and held it for a period of ten years or more. My right hon. and learned Friend was arguing that in such an event it ought not to be a chargeable gain nor a computable loss. [Interruption.] I wonder whether the birdcage opposite could keep quiet for a moment, or go out for a smoke, when we will have only two or three in the Chamber and it would be rather easier to hear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.365.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.374.0", "colnum": "374", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "preceding_text": "I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Member. He has been very kind in giving answers to two of the three questions that I have put to him. He has omitted to answer the third, concerning the farmer who passes on his farm to his son. Does he have to pay 30 per cent. in Capital Gains Tax on the increased capital value of the farm in cash? He does not have that sort of money.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.374.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.374.3", "colnum": "374", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I did not deal with the hon. Gentleman's question separately, because I thought that it was included in the argument he was making in general about the transfer of surplus on retirement—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.374.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.374.3", "colnum": "374", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I did not deal with the hon. Gentleman's question separately, because I thought that it was included in the argument he was making in general about the transfer of surplus on retirement—[ Interruption. ]—the answer is that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.374.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.374.4", "colnum": "374", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I did not deal with the hon. Gentleman's question separately, because I thought that it was included in the argument he was making in general about the transfer of surplus on retirement—[ Interruption. ]—the answer is that—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"]—I have answered. Hon. Gentlemen may not like the answer, but we shall have plenty—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.374.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.375.3", "colnum": "375", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "ther main argument which was adduced in support of this group of Amendments. It was the argument that without some abatement or allowance for inflation of the kind suggested, this tax would be a disincentive to saving, a disincentive to capital formation. I suggest that this is a very dubious argument. People do not derive their incentive to save from the hope of making capital gains, they derive—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.375.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.377.1", "colnum": "377", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "We have had a very interesting debate this evening. If I may say so, the Financial Secretary has achieved a triumph. He has at last convinced me by his arguments, he has overwhelmed me with his logic. Whereas, when the Finance Bill came in I had an open mind on the Capital Gains Tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.377.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.378.0", "colnum": "378", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "e people hit by inflation, but the Financial Secretary knows perfectly well that, excluding the Labour Government from 1945 to 1951, which did not increase the pension to control inflation, every other Government from 1951 to the present time—including the present Government because of their increases in the pensions in the autumn—have made certain that the pensioner is kept in front of inflation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.378.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.378.0", "colnum": "378", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": " his investment has not increased by a penny in terms of real purchasing power. Indeed, I doubt whether it has the same value as the original £1,000 had in 1900. If the present holder left it to a beneficiary, he would have to pay £2,500 on that capital gain, although the sum inherited would have the same value as it had when originally invested in 1900. I am speaking in terms of purchasing power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.378.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.378.0", "colnum": "378", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "sum had increased due to inflation during those years, although the real value in terms of purchasing power would not have increased at all. Under the present proposals of the Government a static investment could, purely and simply because of inflation, be reduced in real value from £1 to 5s. in 30 years. This is, therefore, a confiscatory tax. It is taking capital from people who are not tycoons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.378.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.379.0", "colnum": "379", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Tory knights?", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "ing power would not have increased at all. Under the present proposals of the Government a static investment could, purely and simply because of inflation, be reduced in real value from £1 to 5s. in 30 years. This is, therefore, a confiscatory tax. It is taking capital from people who are not tycoons. [ Interruption. ] Many of them are very humble and moderate people, some widows and even orphans.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.378.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.379.1", "colnum": "379", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "Because a man happens to be a Tory knight it does not necessarily mean that he is wealthy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.379.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.386.5", "colnum": "386", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Divide.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "Can I help both the hon. Gentleman and the right hon. and learned Gentleman? If the Opposition wish to divide on Amendment No. 117, that Amendment is on Schedule 6 and the Committee can divide only at that Amendment's place on the Order Paper. If it wishes to divide at the moment on Amendment No. 349 it can do so now. I am in the hands of the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.386.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.400.0", "colnum": "400", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paul Bryan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paul Bryan", "preceding_text": "g today simply overflows with absurdities. Yesterday we were talking about selling a house and buying a smaller house, in which case there is no Capital Gains Tax payable. On the other hand, if at the same time one sells one's pictures because they are too big for the new house, Capital Gains Tax arises. One can talk about this sort of absurdity well into the night, but I do not intend to do that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.400.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.404.6", "colnum": "404", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not always.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "The debate on this Question has included many references to earlier discussions which have taken place today on Amendments and even to yesterday's debate. I am sure therefore that the Committee would not wish me to go over all the ground that has already been covered. Hon. Members can refer to HANSARD for the speeches on the points made and the answers given.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.404.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.404.6", "colnum": "404", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "if I deal only with the points raised on the Question that the Clause stand part of the Bill. The right hon. and learned Member for Huntingdonshire (Sir D. Renton) asked whether it was wise that farms should be the subject of a Capital Gains Tax. His argument seemed to be that inasmuch as we treat farming favourably in many respects why did not we treat it exceptionally favourably in this respect.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.404.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.412.0", "colnum": "412", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "he same constructive speech is ten times as constructive as one constructive speech made by one Member is not for me to say, but certainly all the speeches have been constructive in that sense. Despite all the hard work that has gone into our discussions, however, I cannot say that without a little more effort it would not be possible to get a few more Clauses. Last night the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.412.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.413.0", "colnum": "413", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Harmar Nicholls", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Harmar Nicholls", "preceding_text": "roduced no argument to warrant continuing our discussions on the following Clauses. He has gone through the normal motions of trying to get, on the cheap, one or two quick decisions in his favour. I hope that we shall be able to put enough pressure upon him—and I hope that the pressure will come not only from this side of the Committee but from some of the independent-minded hon. Members opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.413.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.414.1", "colnum": "414", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"It makes no difference whether the hon. Member accepts it or not\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "is hon. Friend will give some concessions, but we have heard all this before. We have been told by the Financial Secretary and by the Chief Secretary that if we will only be patient and wait we shall come to some Amendments which the Government are able to accept. That has not happened so far. I think this is a ruse to persuade us to go on until very late tonight. I am not prepared to accept this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.414.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.415.0", "colnum": "415", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "important subject have been discussed together. I do not think the Chancellor can suggest to us that we have not made reasonable progress in dealing with these big issues. I do not think he was serious in suggesting that that half of the Committee on this side should get together and select somebody to represent them and make a speech about an Amendment. There has not been duplication of speeches—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.415.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.416.0", "colnum": "416", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Today.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "the subject. All sorts of interests are raised—chattels, agriculture and so on—and many of my hon. Friends will wish to speak. I urge the right hon. Gentleman to reconsider the matter or at least give an indication of what he considers would be a reasonable part of the Bill to aim at at this late hour. In this connection, I remind the Leader of the House that the House meets tomorrow at 10.30 a.m.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.415.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.417.0", "colnum": "417", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hirst", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hirst", "preceding_text": "I will not delay the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.417.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.429.1", "colnum": "429", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"There will be as it is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "half, but we have looked at the possibilities of a further reduction cut off in some way at a given level. However, here the administrative difficulties would be quite appalling. It would involve tapering provisions and, bearing in mind the way in which this tax will have to be administered, and the large number of tax officers involved, it could lead to a grave danger of administrative breakdown.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.429.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.431.0", "colnum": "431", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We want them now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I assure the hon. Gentleman that it would. If he would like to have detailed figures I should be pleased to give them to him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.431.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.439.1", "colnum": "439", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hall", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Or of knowledge,\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hall", "preceding_text": "erable tact and charm. They will have to point out to the housekeepers or custodians of the property that if they do not cooperate they will be liable to a fine. They will have to destroy the fine image of every Englishman's home being his castle, and they will have to cope with dogs and other hazards that face canvassers. I do not think that it will be easy to find people of charm to do this job.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.439.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.459.2", "colnum": "459", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "d all the other ramifications. If one is to have a good valuation one must have not only an expert on china but even an expert on one particular type of china. One may require one expert on Ming and another on European china. One cannot have just one expert engaged by the Department to value things which are subject to Capital Gains Tax on their disposal. If the Financial Secretary is still awake—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.459.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.498.0", "colnum": "498", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Mott-Radclyffe", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Mott-Radclyffe", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Gentleman had the proper brief, he could have answered this point satisfactorily when it was put to him by my right hon. Friend the Member for Rushcliffe (Sir M. Redmayne).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.498.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.500.1", "colnum": "500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "will destroy our position in the art markets of the world and will drive out of public sight works of art at present available to the public. He will remove much of the romance and interest in the collecting of works of art and he will create a new criminal class. That is what will happen with those who believe that this is an immoral tax and that it will not be an immoral act to seek to avoid it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.500.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.500.1", "colnum": "500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "land Revenue. Then there will be the question of cost. Enormous cost will be involved in paying all the people necessary to make all the valuations. There is the point that if the Government have destroyed confidence in the London market by introducing this tax, others will be very ready to leap into the gap, and we shall never get back our pre-eminent position. Nobody will pay this tax willingly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.500.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.500.1", "colnum": "500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "g in higher commissions, low turnover, and the law of diminishing returns in full operation and flourishing—or, perhaps, a new Clause of MacDermot's law. The Socialists seem to have an aversion against golden geese, but this is a goose which should be cultivated and not have its throat cut. We come on to the cultural effect, because this Clause will have a very bad effect on our cultural heritage—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.500.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.502.1", "colnum": "502", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": " collections away. That argument is not a valid one. If we look back into recent history we see that private collectors have always been generous in showing their works of art to the public. One of my predecessors in Bristol had a great collection—the Hart-Davis Collection, bought by Miles, another Member for Bristol, and exhibited to the public on Thursday afternoons all through the 19th Century—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.502.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.503.2", "colnum": "503", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Read on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "of thing is against the public interest, and that is why I oppose the Clause. The sort of thing which the late Duke of Bedford did in demolishing part of his historic house and rebuilding it would be stopped by the Capital Gains Tax. The public will be the losers all along the line. We have heard very little about this evil, and about the fact that all this trouble will not be worth it in the end.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.503.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.503.2", "colnum": "503", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "the late Duke of Bedford did in demolishing part of his historic house and rebuilding it would be stopped by the Capital Gains Tax. The public will be the losers all along the line. We have heard very little about this evil, and about the fact that all this trouble will not be worth it in the end. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Read on.\"] This tax encourages owners of buildings to sit in them and let them rot—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.503.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.503.2", "colnum": "503", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. Gentleman is reading very well.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": " will be the losers all along the line. We have heard very little about this evil, and about the fact that all this trouble will not be worth it in the end. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Read on.\"] This tax encourages owners of buildings to sit in them and let them rot—[ Interruption ]—instead of trying to use some of their resources to repair the buildings, so that they will be enjoyed in another generation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.503.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.504.3", "colnum": "504", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "ks of art. That, in addition to the other effects which I mentioned, will result in the prevention of loan exhibitions of one kind or another. Many of the finest exhibitions, a great number of them for charitable purposes, are put on as a result of works of art being loaned from historic houses and other private sources. They will not be available if people know that by showing their works of art—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.504.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.2", "colnum": "505", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Get on with it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "not be prepared to let the Inland Revenue know where such works of art are. If the Inland Revenue is to administer these provisions properly it will have to go into considerable detail, discover where works of art are located, and so on. That will mean contacting not only individuals but seeking out catalogues and looking up past records. Someone may have had an assorted boxful of labels, perhaps—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.3", "colnum": "505", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "—with the names of old masters—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.5", "colnum": "505", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman says, \"Yet another page\". I have three more pages of notes to go, but if hon. Gentlemen opposite will stop interrupting while seated I will conclude my remarks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.5", "colnum": "505", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "se produce the maximum intrusion into private life, interference with the private citizen, the maximum administrative cost, unwilling agents in the form of auctioneers and dealers, and it will produce a ludicrously low yield, no benefit to the community and the public will get less of a chance to look at many of the works of art attacked in the Clause. The continuing process of sharing in culture—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.5", "colnum": "505", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": "works of art attacked in the Clause. The continuing process of sharing in culture—[ Interruption ]—will be seriously hampered by the Capital Gains Tax. It is no use the Chancellor shrugging off the vast weight of criticism which has been levelled against these provisions, because what I have said is what this is all about. That is why I have made this speech. I could have gone to my bed hours ago—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.5", "colnum": "505", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": " the Chancellor shrugging off the vast weight of criticism which has been levelled against these provisions, because what I have said is what this is all about. That is why I have made this speech. I could have gone to my bed hours ago—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I thought that would invite that sort of response from hon. Gentlemen opposite. My hon. Friends and I feel strongly about this matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.505.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-25", "file": "debates1965-05-25a.xml", "sha256": "a048fce317cad4e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.511.1", "colnum": "511", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Miss Harvie Anderson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Harvie Anderson", "preceding_text": "of the Schedule which arises from the Clause, but cumulatively the effect of the Clause is such that it makes it wholly reprehensible in the view of many of my hon. and right hon. Friends and myself. I hope that the Financial Secretary will think over the full implications of the content of the Clause, because I believe that it will contribute considerably towards the corruption of public morals.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-25a.511.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.545.2", "colnum": "545", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Silkin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Silkin", "preceding_text": "That is precisely what the new Clause would do, tie the hands of a Parliament in five years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.545.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.567.6", "colnum": "567", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule.—(ENACTMENTS REPEALED.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Percival", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Percival", "preceding_text": "I should like to raise a point of principle on this Schedule while keeping in order and I invite your assistance, Dr. King, on this aspect of the matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.567.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.571.5", "colnum": "571", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule.—(ENACTMENTS REPEALED.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "ppened before—a Bill that is neither Private Member's nor Government's, but both; no responsible sponsor present nor a Minister present on a Bill which had ceased to be a Bill but had been made into a nonsense. This is the first time that there has been a Private Member's Bill debated and the Committee stage taken at a time when it is known that Government supporters will all be present, Whips on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.571.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.595.8", "colnum": "595", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Buchan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Reading.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Buchan", "preceding_text": "I thank the Minister for her reply. Has she any idea what the relevant proportions have been in the past between those applying for admission and those who have passed the course? Secondly, she deserves congratulation for the very big response there has been.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.595.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.603.0", "colnum": "603", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "This is what we shall have—a proper analysis of the problem for the whole of Scotland and the action that will come out of it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.603.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.603.6", "colnum": "603", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "I expressed that hope, but it was not realised.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.603.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.606.3", "colnum": "606", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "HON.MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "ing his own speeches and not on making mine for me. If he will refer to the recent speech I made on the Price Review and the one by my hon. Friend in the Adjournment debate, he will see that there was no contradiction between what we said and the actual facts. We said that in the 12 years of Tory administration prior to last year's Review, the price went up by about 2d. In fact, it was 2½d.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.606.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.610.3", "colnum": "610", "heading": "SITTINGS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Sir Roll Dudley Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Roll Dudley Williams", "preceding_text": "What I would ask you, Mr. Speaker, is whether we on this side of the House have any redress against the strain that is being put upon the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.610.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.611.2", "colnum": "611", "heading": "HOMOSEXUAL REFORM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leo Abse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why Leeds?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leo Abse", "preceding_text": "lar circumstances, homosexuality would remain a crime attracting severe penalties. But the Bill would mean that the stigma and burden of criminality would no longer be attached to acts committed in private between adults. No one knows how many in this country have the sad fate of being homosexuals. The most cautious estimate suggests that there are as many as there are people in the City of Leeds—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.611.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.614.1", "colnum": "614", "heading": "HOMOSEXUAL REFORM", "cue_speaker": "Sir Cyril Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Cyril Osborne", "preceding_text": "I am utterly opposed to the Motion and I hope that the House will reject it. It is said that silence gives consent. In this case it would be the consent of guilt and a cowardly silence. It is because I refuse to give consent to such a Bill that I cannot remain silent. I regard this as a moral issue, and if I may say to my hon. Friends opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.614.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.614.3", "colnum": "614", "heading": "HOMOSEXUAL REFORM", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I will speak for myself. I believe that this proposal would offend the non-conformist conscience of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.614.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.614.8", "colnum": "614", "heading": "HOMOSEXUAL REFORM", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Adultery.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "This is not the Reichstag yet. I am convinced that public opinion is completely against this proposal and that the vast majority of our people consider, rightly or wrongly, that sodomy is wrong, unnatural, degrading and disgusting; and I agree with them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.614.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.614.8", "colnum": "614", "heading": "HOMOSEXUAL REFORM", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "dness could be used to excuse every crime in the calendar, and I do not accept it. During recent years we have been shocked by cases involving security and affecting the nation. In most cases, like that of Burgess and Maclean, the men who have been traitors and spies to our country have been \"homos\", ready and ripe for blackmail. To increase this by making homosexuality public, by making it legal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.614.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.615.1", "colnum": "615", "heading": "HOMOSEXUAL REFORM", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Really.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "rimes of violence against the person have risen from 2,721 to 20,083. This is a time when we want more discipline and not less. I am convinced that it would be wrong for the House to accept the Bill. The gravest harm that the Bill could do to the country would be to send out from this House a message to our friends and allies abroad that somehow the character of the English people was going wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.615.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.633.4", "colnum": "633", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Baxter", "preceding_text": "He left £18,000, on which Capital Gains Tax would have to be paid. I have taken off £1,000, which leaves that man with £18,000 of capital gains—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.633.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.664.1", "colnum": "664", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "or not having the latter, I must say that we would rather have both. We should prefer to see him vote with the Government and express his views frankly, because they are very valuable and serious and entirely on our side. The hon. Gentleman asked for an assurance from the Financial Secretary. He said that the present rates of Estate Duty are high enough, and, therefore, the deduction which I make—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.664.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.695.3", "colnum": "695", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "rection required can be made in a later Budget. To come back to the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Cheetham (Mr. Harold Lever), the psychological effect on trustees who will show that they will be required to pay out 30 per cent. of capital appreciation on their assets will be a jolly good inducement for them to see that the funds are managed properly and more effectively—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.695.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.701.3", "colnum": "701", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "would be an inconvenience and an undesirable provision to write into our fiscal arrangements. The Committee will know perfectly well that the Inland Revenue has plenty of experience in this kind of matter in dealing with Estate Duty claims. Anyone who has had any experience of dealing with the Inland Revenue will know that it always approaches such problems with the greatest sympathy and leniency.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.701.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.704.5", "colnum": "704", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What did he say?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "e average income of this \"Millionaires' Row\" has decreased. A large number of people in this country are not impressed by the argument which seems to have been produced in the mood of an annual meeting of a Landowners Association family trust. I have consulted my hon. Friend the Member for Derbyshire, North-East (Mr. Swain), who sits next to me. I asked him whether he had formed a private company.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.704.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.706.5", "colnum": "706", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "Scotland, and it is complete misrepresentation to suggest that there is here a conspiracy on the part of a wicked Socialist Government to victimise small farmers. I urge the Government not to make any concessions at all. I do not want concessions to be given to the Leader of the Opposition so that, in 10 years, the value of his land will go up and up. I want to tax these big estates to extinction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.706.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.711.2", "colnum": "711", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": "I beg to move Amendment No. 137, in page 24, line 6, after \"interest\" to insert \"in possession\" This is purely a drafting Amendment. The distinction is between interests in possession and reversionary or contingent interests. There is a reference in each of the following subsections to interests in possession, and it does not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.711.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.762.2", "colnum": "762", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "ed at 100. If one buys that stock at 96 and redeems it at 100, the gain, for Capital Gains Tax purposes, is nil. I think that that is clear—that if one buys at the issue instead of at the issue price, the increase of four points is disregarded. If one buys the stock issued at 96 at 93 and sells it at 100, for the purposes of the Capital Gains Tax, the gain would be three points, between 93 and 96—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.762.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.764.0", "colnum": "764", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I have no doubt, that if he holds it he would like relief from the Capital Gains Tax. This is not the case made up to this moment. That case, which I am meeting completely, is that of the stock which is issued at a certain price.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.764.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.774.0", "colnum": "774", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ther. For this reason, I should like to move to report Progress at this stage. I ask the Chancellor to consider this seriously as a genuine indication of our desire to examine with the utmost care the proposal which he has put before us. I remind him that the Committee sat until after six o'clock this morning, and that we have been sitting today since half-past three and it is now nearly midnight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.774.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.778.1", "colnum": "778", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "That only reinforces the point I am making. They certainly are in the hands of all hon. Members who were here to listen to me", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.778.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.778.1", "colnum": "778", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "That only reinforces the point I am making. They certainly are in the hands of all hon. Members who were here to listen to me [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] They have listened and heard and if they cannot understand, that is not my fault.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.778.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.778.1", "colnum": "778", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "red; I am good tempered, on the whole. I have done my best to meet the convenience of the Committee by circulating a statement. If not every hon. Member has a copy, I am sorry, but we are not voting on it. It was circulated as a matter of convenience, but what we are discussing is an Amendment to exclude British Government securities. It is very important that we should reach a conclusion on this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.778.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.778.1", "colnum": "778", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "write his initial letter to The Times, which I studied, was that the Government's honour was involved. The Government Broker buys and sell stocks every day in the market place. This is what he was recommended to do by the Radcliffe Committee and he has been doing it a great deal, but the contract between the Government and the purchaser is to issue at a certain price and redeem at a certain price.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.778.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.779.2", "colnum": "779", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "No, I do not have to assure the Committee on that. The Government take their own responsibility for this. We have not put the job into commission yet. It was some hundreds of years ago. This is my responsibility.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.779.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.785.5", "colnum": "785", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Monslow", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The hon. Member said that he would not withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Monslow", "preceding_text": "I will bow to your Ruling, Sir Samuel, and retain my feeling.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.785.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.785.9", "colnum": "785", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Foster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Foster", "preceding_text": "pend so much. 12.15 a.m. There is no doubt that the long sittings affect the doorkeepers more than others. The police and many others are affected, but the doorkeepers came on duty at eight o'clock in the morning and they have to remain here all through the night. I made inquiries about whether they had had any rest. It is a reflection on our humanity that if we decide to sit throughout the night—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.785.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.785.9", "colnum": "785", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Foster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Foster", "preceding_text": "hrough the night. I made inquiries about whether they had had any rest. It is a reflection on our humanity that if we decide to sit throughout the night—[ Interruption. ] Are hon. Members suggesting that the sitting of the Committee should be continued without considering the fatigue of the doorkeepers? I seriously suggest that because we have a tradition in this country of being humane employers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.785.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-26", "file": "debates1965-05-26a.xml", "sha256": "d3e5410de34db80b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.789.1", "colnum": "789", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "The Government are now obviously in the shakiest position they have been in on the whole Bill. The Chancellor—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-26a.789.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.827.8", "colnum": "827", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. This is a different subject. I distinctly heard the hon. Lady the Member for Wolverhampton, North-East (Mrs. Renée Short) say \"You little twerps\", thus addressing it to the Chair—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.827.8"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.836.3", "colnum": "836", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The Question on the Order Paper refers to Great Britain's rôle east of Suez. It does not say anything about the American Fleet or about New Zealand.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.836.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.840.6", "colnum": "840", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "That is not a matter for the Central Statistical Office, but I have been looking at what it has been doing. I find that despite all the crabbing of right hon. Members opposite, the balance of trade figure in the first four months this year as published by the Central Statistical Office—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.840.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.865.3", "colnum": "865", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "iscussions in agriculture in south-west Scotland for the last 10 years. Are farmers and their sons to work hard in order to make substantial gains for landlords? That is precisely what is going on. All this talk about the Chancellor of the Exchequer being the exploiter of the small farmer is so much humbug. The exploiter is the rich landlord who is typified by the Leader of the Conservative Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.865.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.870.5", "colnum": "870", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "preceding_text": "s. I am speaking for other farmers who are seriously concerned about this and who would like an assurance. I want to spend a few moments dealing with the points raised by the hon. Member for South Ayrshire. We have got into a position now where in Great Britain as a whole—Scotland seems to be lagging behind on this, as it does in so many things—the great majority of farming land is owner-occupied.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.870.5"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.878.1", "colnum": "878", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": " Presumably, the finances of the nation will become even weaker than they are rapidly becoming already. People will have less money. Banks will get tighter with advances. The Agricultural Credit Corporation and the Agricultural Mortgage Corporation will hardly be likely to finance farmers for this sort of purpose. The position will be as my hon. Friends have explained it. They cannot all be wrong.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.882.0", "colnum": "882", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "arming have subsequently made comments and asked questions showing that they failed to understand the scope of the tax and how it will apply. Some hon. Members have suggested that the result of the tax will be the complete fragmentation of our agriculture. Other hon. Members have said exactly the opposite and have declared that it will drive out the small farmers and result in great amalgamations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.882.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.903.1", "colnum": "903", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "preceding_text": "the hon. Gentleman to work it out. Perhaps the Liberals are indeed following the wind of change. I admit that it seems illogical that for a few pence a person can win £100,000 or even £200,000 and not be subject to Capital Gains Tax, yet a person can, after concientious saving over many years, realise a profit on an asset and be subject to the tax. The bulk of gambling takes place on horse racing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.903.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.908.3", "colnum": "908", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You have never had one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "derstood, that we are talking of the winnings and not of the sums hazarded. We are thinking of the person getting a very large gain from, perhaps, a very small stake, and we believe that the very large gain should be taxed. I am not against gambling as such, although I bet only on certainties. If anyone doubts that statement, let him ask Ladbroke's, because I have never lost a bet with Ladbroke's—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.908.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.914.3", "colnum": "914", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hall", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And paid for.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hall", "preceding_text": "re of compulsory purchase is gone through and, as is usually the case, the application for a compulsory purchase order has succeeded, the owner finds that his property has been taken from him. In some cases he might be willing to dispose of it. In other cases he becomes resigned to it. In other cases he might be bitterly antagonistic. In any case, his property has been taken from him compulsorily.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.914.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.963.0", "colnum": "963", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hordern", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Go on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hordern", "preceding_text": "concession because they did not represent a significant proportion of the market. If these are not his exact words, the right hon Gentleman said something very similar. I cannot imagine where the Chancellor gets this kind of advice. What does he imagine he is saying about the pension fund having a larger slice of the long end of the market? It is utter rubbish. I do not wish to bore the Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.963.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-27", "file": "debates1965-05-27a.xml", "sha256": "4505e55c38648e7b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.974.1", "colnum": "974", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "t be honoured. My right hon. Friend was not persuaded that there was any such pledge. Nevertheless, although the previous Government had themselves not honoured this pledge, although, when they introduced the short-term Capital Gains Tax, they never took the view that this was a pledge which bound them—any yield redemption was a chargeable gain for the purpose of that short-term Capital Gains Tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-27a.974.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1154.0", "colnum": "1154", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOSPITALS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "preceding_text": "Well—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1154.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1156.0", "colnum": "1156", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOSPITALS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "preceding_text": "We provide the money, of course.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1156.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1172.3", "colnum": "1172", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "preceding_text": "As I said, my right hon. Friend has this matter under review. The comments of interested bodies have been sought in relation to the Milne Recommendation No. 8, and we are reexamining the question of the Public Health Acts as well as the Food and Drugs Acts. I think the hon. Member can take it that—without my being associated in any way with his colour prejudices—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1172.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1235.1", "colnum": "1235", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The same gramophone record.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "was exclusively open to charities, we could provide special regulations so that that trust could provide the kind of exemption asked for in the Amendment. But I must make it clear that we cannot accept the Amendment put forward. I do not think that it would be possible, for these reasons. I repeat, a company and its shareholders are two separate things. What is being asked for in these Amendments—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1235.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1235.1", "colnum": "1235", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "t put forward. I do not think that it would be possible, for these reasons. I repeat, a company and its shareholders are two separate things. What is being asked for in these Amendments—[An HON. MEMBER: \"The same gramophone record.\"]—I am sorry about the gramophone, but some hon. Gentlemen opposite have not yet got the tune off by heart. I hope that by now they have, and that I need not repeat it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1235.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1245.0", "colnum": "1245", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": "rder of the day. It would help a great deal if it could be made quite clear from the Treasury Bench that it is not the intention of the Government in any way to undermine the privileges or concessions that have been available to pension funds. There may be an impression abroad, going out from this House, that the Government are doing something in some way detrimental to the existing pension funds.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1245.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1254.0", "colnum": "1254", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Lloyd", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Lloyd", "preceding_text": "The debate is taking a rather serious turn from the point of view of charities and investment trusts. The hon. Member for Manchester, Cheetham (Mr. Harold Lever) told us in one moment of frankness that when revolutionary changes in taxation are proposed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1254.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1257.1", "colnum": "1257", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "I am saying what the previous Government did—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1257.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1277.2", "colnum": "1277", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir L. Heald", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. Heald", "preceding_text": "ore State interference and State control. The dyed-in-the-wool Socialist by whom we are now being governed regards this as a blessed and inevitable prospect. The Conservative, on the other hand, believes that the encouragement and maintenance of private enterprise is vital to our survival, and the modern Conservative has always preached the doctrine of what is called the property-owning democracy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1277.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1322.2", "colnum": "1322", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": "I do not want to harden the heart of the Chair by my arguments, Dr. King, and I shall, therefore, try to dispense with argument and, instead, put some questions and induce some reflections—in a neutral sense—by the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1322.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1338.3", "colnum": "1338", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "sentatives of the local authorities would be happy to discuss this matter with the Treasury. Such discussions might prove a fruitful way of resolving this difficulty, without each local authority being involved in having to reclaim tax. I appreciate the assurance which my hon. Friend gave and if he would be prepared to indicate that this is what he means I would be happy to withdraw the Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1338.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1346.1", "colnum": "1346", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "It is.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "Why not equally say that 49 per cent. is a minority?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1346.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1351.0", "colnum": "1351", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marcus Kimball", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marcus Kimball", "preceding_text": "e named as a beneficiary under a discretionary trust. He would not know it. He cannot come to the Box and deny it, because he would not know it. It would be nobody's duty to tell him. Somebody might have thought, with this iniquitous tax in mind, of naming the Chancellor as beneficiary, but the trustees would not elect to pay him anything out of the trust, even if he made a charge for tax on them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1351.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1435.0", "colnum": "1435", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 7.—(CAPITAL GAINS: MISCELLANEOUS RULES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Call Cross-bencher!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "I have very rarely heard in the House of Commons such utter nonsense as has been said by the Solicitor-General. I thought that my hon. Friend the Member for Worcester (Mr. Peter Walker) made a very cogent speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1435.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1442.11", "colnum": "1442", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Mott-Radclyffe", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Mott-Radclyffe", "preceding_text": "tice is to be given before these officers enter somebody's house? What reasonable objection will the owner be allowed to make? This will be a very happy hunting ground for the burglars. All they will have to do is dress up as an official after a couple of bogus telephone calls, take someone else with them and they can then do a splendid \"recce\" in force to discover what is where and how to get it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1442.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1444.0", "colnum": "1444", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir L. Heald", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Whose side is he on?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. Heald", "preceding_text": "Can my hon. Friend explain to us how it is that someone else can be taken, because all the Schedule says is …an inspector or other officer\"? It does not provide, so far as I can see, for his taking anyone else with him. He may be either an inspector or another officer of the Board—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1444.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1447.0", "colnum": "1447", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ian Gilmour", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ian Gilmour", "preceding_text": "t vicarious snooping and it goes far further than ever before, far further than the 1962 Act. That taken together with paragraph 11, raises two very serious issues. The first is the issue of the relationship between the taxpayer and the Inland Revenue, be- cause tax gathering depends on the co-operation of the taxpayer and in this country that relationship has been good for about a thousand years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1447.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1451.1", "colnum": "1451", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": " fact that the gains should be assessed and charged on the husband does not affect the amount of the charge in respect of his spouse's gains. It would remain exactly the same as if it were charged on the wife. I turn to the wider questions that have been asked. It is clear that the imaginations of a number of hon. Gentlemen opposite boggle at the prospect of the result of some of these provisions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1451.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1451.1", "colnum": "1451", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "he result of some of these provisions. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] Those cries of \"Hear, hear\" are not surprising, since hon. Members have allowed their imaginations to run away with them. Even at 5 o'clock in the morning it is a splendid sight to see so many hon. Gentlemen opposite coming here to put up such a spirited defence on behalf of the tax dodgers, in the name of the defence of liberty.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1451.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1452.0", "colnum": "1452", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Can we have the words?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "re. They are quite mistaken. This provision to which they are taking such exception, and about which they are quoting 18th century precedents in powerful language by the judiciary, is based up and follows very closely a provision in Section 7 of the Finance Act, 1894. So, since 1894 we have been living under this oppressive regime and I do not recall having heard any of those impassioned speeches—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1452.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1453.1", "colnum": "1453", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I think it is most reprehensible for hon. Members opposite to talk in those terms.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1453.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1453.1", "colnum": "1453", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I think it is most reprehensible for hon. Members opposite to talk in those terms. [ Interruption. ] We have been living for the last 13 years under a regime with Government snoopers under the Government of hon. Gentlemen opposite. They did not use those terms when they were in office.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1453.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-05-31", "file": "debates1965-05-31a.xml", "sha256": "875d5f188f6eae03", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1453.3", "colnum": "1453", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Schedule 9.—(CAPITAL GAINS: ADMINISTRATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "etermination of the valuation which will affect him in the future. As I say, this kind of difficulty that hon. Members are imagining is something that in practice arises only extremely rarely. It is dealt with administratively as a commonsense matter. It is dealt with with courtesy and consideration, and it is obvious that one must have reserve powers of this kind to deal with recalcitrant people—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-05-31a.1453.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1493.3", "colnum": "1493", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — OVERSEAS DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. Carr", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. Carr", "preceding_text": "ght hon. Lady aware that in saying what she has just said she is going right across the views of the Development Assistance Committee of O.E.C.D., in Paris, which lays great stress upon the need and value of private investment and the need to take steps to encourage it? Does not the very fact that it is declining prove that there is need to encourage it, and not to put further barriers in its way?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1493.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1514.5", "colnum": "1514", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — OVERSEAS DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. Is not it also correct, following what the hon. Member for Dunbartonshire, West (Mr. Steele) has just said, that if the Prime Minister is going to make such lengthy answers impugning the actions—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1514.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1514.7", "colnum": "1514", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — OVERSEAS DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "—of former Ministers at international negotiations—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1514.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1515.2", "colnum": "1515", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — OVERSEAS DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order, Mr. Speaker. Some of us have been very patient during Question Time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1515.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1526.1", "colnum": "1526", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "That is perfectly correct. As the hon. Gentleman has said, a request was made by the Opposition for a debate on foreign affairs generally, but there was no specific request, which is what I said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1526.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1534.1", "colnum": "1534", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "We are to have a short debate this afternoon—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1534.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1537.1", "colnum": "1537", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Arthur Vere Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Arthur Vere Harvey", "preceding_text": "ast week for Vietnam and British forces in Malaysia at readiness, it is just not good enough that week after week the House should be fobbed off. My right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition has made persistent attempts to get a full debate, but it seems that the Finance Bill has got the House into real difficulties. No one on this side of the House has been filibustering on the Finance Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1537.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1538.1", "colnum": "1538", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": ". Members opposite have demanded that time should be provided to enable this House to debate Vietnam and San Domingo. They want to discuss the Finance Bill and a variety of other topics, but the right hon. and learned Member for St. Marylebone (Mr. Hogg)—who, presumably, was speaking for the Opposition—made no such admission. We therefore now discover that the party opposite is hopelessly divided—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1538.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1540.1", "colnum": "1540", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"On Cambodia.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "efore we adjourn next Friday. My right hon. Friend the Leader of the House has explained why he does not feel it necessary to repeat statements that have been made. He has said that he wants time to enable the Foreign Secretary to gain more information and then make a statement to the House. He said quite explicitly that my right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary will make a statement on Thursday—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1540.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1540.1", "colnum": "1540", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": " is almost contiguous—so the subject can be raised. The only caveat I have is that my hon. Friend the Member for Penistone managed to inject a foreign affairs speech into his comments on the Motion, but that is a matter between friends. We on this side can afford occasional differences of opinion. We are not having a debate about leadership. We have made up our minds about the leader of our party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1540.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1540.1", "colnum": "1540", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ged to inject a foreign affairs speech into his comments on the Motion, but that is a matter between friends. We on this side can afford occasional differences of opinion. We are not having a debate about leadership. We have made up our minds about the leader of our party—[ Interruption .] The leader of our party is highly satisfactory to hon. Members on this side, and to the party in the country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1540.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1541.1", "colnum": "1541", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "themselves less than justice if they did not raise these questions time and again, because they concern the minds and hearts of every right-thinking person. There are, however, certain difficulties that appear in the minds of the Government and occasionally we must assume that the Government have, perhaps, more information than hon. Members have, more information than I have myself. I regret that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1541.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1542.2", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ian Mikardo", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ian Mikardo", "preceding_text": "nsibilities to this House, on the other. What worries me is that the balance is getting tilted. The statement of my right hon. Friend indicated that he for one did not mind the balance being tilted. What worries me about next week's Recess, like all other Recesses, is that it gives Ministers many more hours a day to sit on their scrambler telephones. Until now, the hours spent on those telephones—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1542.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1542.2", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ian Mikardo", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ian Mikardo", "preceding_text": "next week's Recess, like all other Recesses, is that it gives Ministers many more hours a day to sit on their scrambler telephones. Until now, the hours spent on those telephones—[ Laughter .] As I have said, there are some hon. Members who have come only for a giggle and who do not care tup-pence about the rights of the House. I am not talking to them and I am not put off by their silly sneering.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1542.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1542.2", "colnum": "1542", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (WHITSUNTIDE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ian Mikardo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ian Mikardo", "preceding_text": " more hours a day to sit on their scrambler telephones. Until now, the hours spent on those telephones—[ Laughter .] As I have said, there are some hon. Members who have come only for a giggle and who do not care tup-pence about the rights of the House. I am not talking to them and I am not put off by their silly sneering. [ Interruption .] I am trying to make—I know that I am not very good at it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1542.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1563.5", "colnum": "1563", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH AND COLONIAL AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "preceding_text": "There is no intention to depart from any undertaking which has been given. What I am saying at the moment is that it is intended, as and when it is convenient to all parties concerned to do so, to convene a conference. As a result of the conference, it is quite likely that it may fix a date, but it is not by any means certain whether that will be done at this conference.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1563.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1", "colnum": "1644", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH AND COLONIAL AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is the Minister?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "eagues and, even after all that has occurred, I hope that something useful and constructive will emerge. There has been a good deal of reference today, not least by the hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition to the question of aid and the question of development. I should like to have had more time to say something about the work of the new Ministry of Overseas Development which has replaced—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1", "colnum": "1644", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH AND COLONIAL AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "something useful and constructive will emerge. There has been a good deal of reference today, not least by the hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition to the question of aid and the question of development. I should like to have had more time to say something about the work of the new Ministry of Overseas Development which has replaced—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is the Minister?\"]—She is not here.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1", "colnum": "1644", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH AND COLONIAL AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What did the right hon. Gentleman say?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "said that it was not an issue and would not be an issue in the election—presumably meaning that it would not be an issue in the present Parliament. In the election he said that the whole issue was a \"dead duck\". The manifesto had all sorts of beautiful pictorial stuff on the Commonwealth and about half a line on Europe about joining the Common Market. He said that we had no chance to do it anyway.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1", "colnum": "1644", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH AND COLONIAL AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "on was what Hugh Gaitskell said at Brighton, what I said in Rome and what I said in E.F.T.A. last week. But, within three months of the election, the right hon. Gentleman has changed his mind and is now sounding a clarion call for entry. Fair enough. I want to conclude by giving the right hon. Gentleman one warning. We have said the conditions on which we are prepared to go into the Common Market.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1", "colnum": "1644", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH AND COLONIAL AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "entleman has changed his mind and is now sounding a clarion call for entry. Fair enough. I want to conclude by giving the right hon. Gentleman one warning. We have said the conditions on which we are prepared to go into the Common Market. [ Interruption .] There is a difference between that and going in on terms which would totally disrupt Commonwealth trade. The right hon. Gentleman must realise—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1644.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-01", "file": "debates1965-06-01a.xml", "sha256": "6971aadfb64ae8ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1656.0", "colnum": "1656", "heading": "RACE RELATIONS [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member has had his say. Must he really go on? I do not think that the House is very much interested in it. What the Committee is interested in—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-01a.1656.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1700.1", "colnum": "1700", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds", "preceding_text": "That is not the point. Is my right hon. Friend aware—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1700.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1711.4", "colnum": "1711", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Bennett", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Bennett", "preceding_text": "After 7½ months in office—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1711.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1715.2", "colnum": "1715", "heading": "FAMILY DOCTOR SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Wyndham Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Wyndham Davies", "preceding_text": "I think that back-benchers on both sides of the House will regret that the Minister made this statement to the Press before he gave it to the House today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1715.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1715.2", "colnum": "1715", "heading": "FAMILY DOCTOR SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Wyndham Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Wyndham Davies", "preceding_text": "I think that back-benchers on both sides of the House will regret that the Minister made this statement to the Press before he gave it to the House today. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"] Will the right hon. Gentleman stop reiterating that the doctors must withdraw their withdrawal notices?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1715.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1715.2", "colnum": "1715", "heading": "FAMILY DOCTOR SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Wyndham Davies", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Wyndham Davies", "preceding_text": "I think that back-benchers on both sides of the House will regret that the Minister made this statement to the Press before he gave it to the House today. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"] Will the right hon. Gentleman stop reiterating that the doctors must withdraw their withdrawal notices? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] Because this is the only hold they have—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1715.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1726.3", "colnum": "1726", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "ion each, are on charter for 15 years to the Gas Council. They began importing liquid methane last year. The finance required to pay for each ship was obtained in a perfectly sensible and legitimate way: bank loans amounting to £1,400,000 repayable in six years, 8 per cent. cumulative redeemable preference shares amounting to £3,255,000 redeemable over 7 to 15 years and ordinary shares of £20,000.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1726.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1728.1", "colnum": "1728", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "I will answer the right hon. Gentleman by telling him that the company obtained clearance from the Inland Revenue under Section 28 of the Finance Act, 1960.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1728.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1728.3", "colnum": "1728", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer that question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "I will tell the right hon. Gentleman precisely what I think. I know, first, that no Committee of the House of Commons ever advocated a tax of that nature that the right hon. Gentleman proposes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1728.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1729.1", "colnum": "1729", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "night there were strong hints that the Chancellor will give way on other points in the Corporation Tax. These are likely to concern 'close' companies. It is a little odd that the first that we should hear of these matters is through inspired leaks to the Press. While I am concerned with close companies, who is to determine whether a close company has distributed a reasonable amount of its profits?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1729.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1730.1", "colnum": "1730", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "I am very pleased to hear it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1730.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1735.0", "colnum": "1735", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "points where reality broke in. One of the tasks at this stage of the Committee's proceedings, and during the remaining stages of the Bill, will be to disentangle Conservative politics from the reality of business, because there is a growing and substantial difference between the two. I take the major attack which the right hon. Gentleman makes on me. Either, he says, I do not know what I am doing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1735.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1736.0", "colnum": "1736", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where has the Chancellor been?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "Well, the right hon. Gentleman has not been here enough during the course of these debates to be punch drunk himself—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1736.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1739.1", "colnum": "1739", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "ore glaring examples of manipulation have failed. Everyone associated with the Income Tax system knows they have failed and knows that only a root and branch change will do. When I use the words \"root and branch\" I am quoting not from an official Conservative Party publication, but from a Conservative Party publication. I do not know how far it would commend itself, but I am quoting from Crossbow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1739.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1746.0", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "Both are true.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " on the assumption that it is a good thing to invest overseas and that it is bound to bring exports in its train. I was talking to a distinguished Indian the other day who said, \"It is very odd to hear the argument in this country that investment overseas adds to your exports. When they come to my country, they tell me that if we allow them to invest, and to put machines in, it will save imports\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1745.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1746.2", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. MEMBERS", "cue_text": "They are.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I have no doubt that both can be true—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1746.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1746.3", "colnum": "1746", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "Both can be true, not are true. It is very odd—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1746.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1748.0", "colnum": "1748", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "Gentleman the Member for Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Barber) was saying—I was not opposed to private enterprise, or saying that I had taken a lucky swipe at it. I was trying to stand his argument on its head by means of debating dialectics. I regard the making of profits by private enterprise as of the greatest significance in the present state of the economy. We need them. We need to encourage them—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1748.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1748.1", "colnum": "1748", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They all make losses.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": " of proof, and it is an important change; in other words, they are regarded as guilty unless they can prove themselves innocent. But I accept that the rate for them is lower. Incidentally, I also believe that the Chancellor has now brought in many new companies. I am told—I may be wrong—that B.P. may be a close company, and I am not at all certain about the position of the nationalised industries.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1748.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1754.1", "colnum": "1754", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": "atter. No Parliament can bind its successors. I may be out of order in putting the question to the Conservative Party but I will go as far as I can. Suppose this Amendment is passed. It simply postpones the application of the Corporation Tax. Would the Opposition regard that as binding? Suppose they were the Government next year, would they regard themselves as bound to go with this postponement?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1754.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1756.2", "colnum": "1756", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dell", "preceding_text": "for example by the Federation of British Industries. However inconclusive the figures may be, they are helpful. As a result of investigations I have made, it seems to me that the balance of the argument is increasingly in favour of the case which my right hon. Friend the Chancellor is making. I have found that there is very little relationship between the flow of investment and increasing exports—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1756.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1759.1", "colnum": "1759", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dell", "preceding_text": "Hon. Gentlemen opposite should abandon the argument of the developing countries. Since the Chancellor produced his proposals they have deployed that argument time and again. Under successive Tory Administrations private investment in the developing countries fell year after year, yet nothing was done about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1759.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1760.2", "colnum": "1760", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dell", "preceding_text": "If that is the whole reason, why did not the former Government give to investors who were prepared to invest in the developing countries the guarantee which many of them had asked for against the political risks of so investing? The former Government did not give such a guarantee, but I am glad to say that the present Government are looking at the matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1760.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1769.0", "colnum": "1769", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": ". The logic of it does not seem to me completely compelling. Having said that, however, and having remarked that there has been widespread public concern about close companies, I agree with my right hon. Friend that a great deal of this concern will prove not to have been justified. I hope that the Committee will notice the careful language I have used, correctly, I think, in making my prediction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1769.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1775.2", "colnum": "1775", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "y description that can fairly and honestly be applied to those provisions, many citizens, business men and even politicians on the benches opposite in good faith believed that the Government had rather savage intentions towards private profit-making industry. It is only right that I should say it. If that exaggerated view was taken of these provisions, the Government have only themselves to blame.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1775.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1775.2", "colnum": "1775", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "s on the benches opposite in good faith believed that the Government had rather savage intentions towards private profit-making industry. It is only right that I should say it. If that exaggerated view was taken of these provisions, the Government have only themselves to blame. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I am not saying anything hostile to the Government, because I am a loyal supporter of them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1775.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1775.2", "colnum": "1775", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "t charge, I should not be standing on these benches defending them. The Government are guilty, not of that charge, but of a lesser charge of presenting these matters in the Finance Bill in a manner which is likely to be so understood, although I have not the slightest doubt, and I never have had, that the Government would make the necessary Amendments and corrections to put these matters in order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1775.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1802.6", "colnum": "1802", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Duffy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Duffy", "preceding_text": "t needs to be asked again. As well as considering whether business men who cannot use the Corporation Tax to their best advantage should gain our concern for their survival, so we must consider whether companies which retain profits are necessarily efficient and expansionist. Or will it, as the right hon. Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath) put it on Second Reading, make for the survival of the fattest?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1802.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1808.2", "colnum": "1808", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Duffy", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1808.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1819.1", "colnum": "1819", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": "certainly not of a technical nature. I feel strongly about this one, because it happens to be my own association. In a memorandum, my association has said much with which I could agree. I say advisedly, however, that it has made unprofessional, exaggerated comments, because in its preamble it says that the Bill represents a vicious attack … the most unfortunate piece of fiscal legislation\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1819.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1820.0", "colnum": "1820", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": "iation uses words like \"irrational prejudice\". A similar association, the chartered institute, says similar things as regards the technical aspects of the Bill but does not find it necessary to make that sort of comment. I wonder whether this has not something to do with the fact that on the Front Bench opposite sits a member of the executive council of my association. I am very sorry to say this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1819.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1821.6", "colnum": "1821", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": "not retract one word of what I have said. The Press has been particularly ill-informed in its comments. It seems to be hell-bent on stirring it up. I include the correspondence columns of the \"heavy papers\", as they are described. The Financial Times, The Times and The Guardian have published correspondence which, frankly, I should have thought the editors would have been well advised to leave out", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1821.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1822.1", "colnum": "1822", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Amendment?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman should listen. I was not suggesting anything of the sort. We are discussing an Amendment which, if passed, would carry forward for one year the commencement of the operation of the Corporation Tax. I am saying that if we were to do that and allow to continue some of the comments which have been made it would not help to improve the rather confused situation which exists.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1822.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1837.0", "colnum": "1837", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Gross or net?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "The break-even point with Corporation Tax at 35 per cent.—that is a figure comparing like with like—is 51½ per cent. That is to say, a public company paying 51½ per cent. or less is paying no more tax under the new system than under the old. Everybody paying less than 51½ per cent. is paying less tax than under the present system—that is, 51½ per cent. of their profits.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1837.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1851.1", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "I did not inform the Committee and was not intending to do so, because—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1851.1", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "I did not inform the Committee and was not intending to do so, because—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I hope that the Chancellor will not lose his sense of proportion. I have always understood that anything which the Chancellor is kind enough to tell me is told to me in confidence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1851.1", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "hat the present Government and the Labour Party suddenly, and without warning, out of the blue as it were, were committed to the Corporation Tax. We know what followed afterwards. There was no mention of it at the Election, and then when the Government came into office there was a sudden announcement of the two new taxes. I propose now to deal with one or two general points which have been raised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1851.1", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When was that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": " reform. This is one of the general airy things that he said. Perhaps I might remind him of the White Paper issued by my right hon. Friend the Member for Barnet (Mr. Maudling), \"A scheme for an Accounts Basis for Income Tax on Company Profits\" which set out the first part of the work done by the Treasury and others when he was Chancellor, and which was an approach to this whole question of reform.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1854.0", "colnum": "1854", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. W. Baxter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Never.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. W. Baxter", "preceding_text": "As the right hon. Member seems to approve of the principle of Corporation Tax and has shown that there are various types of the tax in the world, if he should ever become the Chancellor of the Exchequer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1854.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1858.2", "colnum": "1858", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, I should say Sir Horace—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1858.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1858.4", "colnum": "1858", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"A box of matches.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "That was only intelligent anticipation, Dr. King. Did you observe that an hon. Gentleman opposite threw something across the Chamber—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1858.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1861.1", "colnum": "1861", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "I fully accept the situation that new overseas investment may have to be reduced.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1861.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1869.1", "colnum": "1869", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Send for the Prime Minister.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ess, but we are now faced with the most extraordinary situation. It is quite apparent that the Government are no longer in a position to carry on with their business. Not only have they been quite unable to answer the arguments put forward in the Committee, but they have been unable to muster a majority to support them. We must, therefore, ask whoever is the senior Minister now on the Front Bench—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1869.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1869.4", "colnum": "1869", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "It is Derby day", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1869.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1869.4", "colnum": "1869", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " one that has been put down by the Opposition to reduce the tax on dividends. I think it would be for the benefit of the country, and certainly for the benefit of my hon. Friends, for the Opposition to declare themselves on this subject of reducing the tax on dividends. It ought to be made known that from their point of view, at a time when we are asking the wage earners to restrict their incomes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1869.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1870.1", "colnum": "1870", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I think it right that the country should know that the Opposition are keen to reduce the tax on dividends—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1870.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1870.2", "colnum": "1870", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Resign.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I think it right that the country should know that the Opposition are keen to reduce the tax on dividends—[ Interruption. ]—when what we ask the country for is restraint on incomes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1870.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1870.7", "colnum": "1870", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hirst", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hirst", "preceding_text": "I cannot really accept the Chancellor's explanation as adequate. My right hon. Friend the Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath) is quite right. Many hon. Members have not been here. I have been here six and a half hours out of seven and I know perfectly well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1870.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1871.0", "colnum": "1871", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "Dr. King—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1871.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1871.2", "colnum": "1871", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "I wish to say only two things.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1871.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1872.1", "colnum": "1872", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "that there is no reason for it. The reason is that Her Majesty's present advisers have not a majority in the Committee. It might be argued to be an insufficient reason, but to say that it is no reason at all is absurd. Surely, in these circumstances, the Committee should do nothing without having heard the advice of the First Lord of the Treasury, who is in the Committee, or was a few minutes ago—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1872.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1872.2", "colnum": "1872", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh!", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "is that Her Majesty's present advisers have not a majority in the Committee. It might be argued to be an insufficient reason, but to say that it is no reason at all is absurd. Surely, in these circumstances, the Committee should do nothing without having heard the advice of the First Lord of the Treasury, who is in the Committee, or was a few minutes ago—[ Interruption. ] Damn George Brown!", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1872.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1875.2", "colnum": "1875", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "nt No. 273, in page 50, line 5, to leave out from \"charged\" to \"rate\" in line 6 and to insert: a tax, to be called corporation tax on the undistributed profits of companies at such rate as Parliament may hereafter determine, and on the distributed profits of companies at such lower rate, not exceeding two fifths of the first mentioned\". We have now an incredible situation. While we may or may not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1875.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1894.0", "colnum": "1894", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "I have all that. The right hon. Gentleman is well aware that I did not come to the Committee this evening—and I think that most hon. Members have not come to the Committee—unaware that the gist of our proposals is to charge 40 per cent. Corporation fax and thereafter, upon dividends, to exact an Income Tax. Everyone, on both sides, is well aware of this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1894.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1909.2", "colnum": "1909", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, That the Chairman do report Progress and ask leave to sit again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1909.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1909.4", "colnum": "1909", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "hat it ought to be and in these circumstances we ought to give the Opposion time to refresh themselves for to-morrow. The speeches, although still coherent, have lost that zip and sparkle which they had several hours ago and it is only fair to hon. Members opposite that we should give them another opportunity. After all, we have had 52 or 53 Divisions on the Bill and we have won every one of them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1909.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1909.4", "colnum": "1909", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "lf and see whether the Opposition can score a goal or so. They have nearly got into the net, but not quite. This is not the time to continue a debate of this nature. I say it in all good humour. We have had a very hard day's work. We have not made as much progress as I would have liked, but it is fair to say, on behalf of both sides of the Committee, if I may speak for both sides of the Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1909.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-02", "file": "debates1965-06-02a.xml", "sha256": "0b8bbc0154f7828c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1911.2", "colnum": "1911", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "I hope that the right hon. Gentleman is not suggesting that the Leader of the House has lost control of hon. Members opposite. This brief respite which they are claiming will no doubt give the Postmaster-General time to install Division bells in the Crypt—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-02a.1911.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1924.4", "colnum": "1924", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1924.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1946.2", "colnum": "1946", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Brown", "cue_text": "Horn. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Brown", "preceding_text": "The cost of the headquarters—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1946.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1951.0", "colnum": "1951", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NUCLEAR WEAPONS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "I hope that when he studies the situation, the right hon. Gentleman will realise the inaccuracies in the statement which he has just made. First, there was no split in this matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1951.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1951.1", "colnum": "1951", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NUCLEAR WEAPONS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "s shadow Departmental battle, because in the last defence debate he came out in favour of the M.L.F. and his right hon. Friend the Member for Monmouth (Mr. Thorneycroft) came out against the M.L.F. Our proposal was explained in great detail, as I have said—and it is a united Government policy—for the Atlantic Nuclear Force. But as far as the right hon. Gentleman is concerned, throughout this year—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1951.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1952.0", "colnum": "1952", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NUCLEAR WEAPONS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "First, as to the right hon. Gentleman's preamble, on this question he never gave a clear answer. On the A.N.F., we did give a clear answer in a very long speech by me. So let us have that straight.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1952.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1952.0", "colnum": "1952", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NUCLEAR WEAPONS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "., we did give a clear answer in a very long speech by me. So let us have that straight. [ Interruption. ] I shall answer the question. I am answering the preamble first. If the Leader of the Opposition really wants to put this to the test, I hope that he will now come clean with his right hon. Friend on a few issues on which he has entirely refused to give an answer—from incomes policy to Europe.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1952.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1952.0", "colnum": "1952", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NUCLEAR WEAPONS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ng the preamble first. If the Leader of the Opposition really wants to put this to the test, I hope that he will now come clean with his right hon. Friend on a few issues on which he has entirely refused to give an answer—from incomes policy to Europe. [ Interruption. ] I know that hon. Members opposite do not like this. As to the second point, all that the right hon. Gentleman has repeated twice—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1952.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1953.2", "colnum": "1953", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EUROPEAN FREE TRADE ASSOCIATION AND IMPORT SURCHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": "n, I should like to ask the Prime Minister today—as nothing at all has happened in any event in the last three months, nothing has been lost to it—whether he would agree that the surcharge was originally imposed, in the words of himself and of his co-Ministers, in terms of a few months only. Would he like to say what he regards as the maximum limit of \"a few months\", as I know that he would value—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1953.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1953.2", "colnum": "1953", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EUROPEAN FREE TRADE ASSOCIATION AND IMPORT SURCHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": "ppened in any event in the last three months, nothing has been lost to it—whether he would agree that the surcharge was originally imposed, in the words of himself and of his co-Ministers, in terms of a few months only. Would he like to say what he regards as the maximum limit of \"a few months\", as I know that he would value—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—it is much better than the last one. As I know—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1953.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1953.5", "colnum": "1953", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EUROPEAN FREE TRADE ASSOCIATION AND IMPORT SURCHARGE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "If my answers are long, it is because the questions are long and because we have preambles to deal with. It might interest the hon. Member to know that in the period during which I have answered Questions at this Box compared with the same period last year, I have answered more Questions than my predecessor.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1953.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1955.1", "colnum": "1955", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EUROPEAN FREE TRADE ASSOCIATION AND IMPORT SURCHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": " Minister aware that we know what he was saying in Vienna on this point? Is he also aware that this country signed what was known as the London Agreement in July, 1961, before we entered into negotiations which safeguarded all the E.F.T.A. countries, including the neutrals, that this was confirmed at every E.F.T.A. meeting and that it was stated in full at every stage in the European negotiations?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1955.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1955.1", "colnum": "1955", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EUROPEAN FREE TRADE ASSOCIATION AND IMPORT SURCHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "lso aware that this country signed what was known as the London Agreement in July, 1961, before we entered into negotiations which safeguarded all the E.F.T.A. countries, including the neutrals, that this was confirmed at every E.F.T.A. meeting and that it was stated in full at every stage in the European negotiations? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"] Will the Prime Minister therefore stop casting doubt—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1955.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1956.4", "colnum": "1956", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Before he makes his request on supplementary questions, I hope that the hon. Gentleman will look at HANSARD to see how the time was really occupied.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1956.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1956.4", "colnum": "1956", "heading": "QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Before he makes his request on supplementary questions, I hope that the hon. Gentleman will look at HANSARD to see how the time was really occupied. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] That is not directed at either side of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1956.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1959.2", "colnum": "1959", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "I have already promised that we shall have a debate on the Second Report of the Select Committee on Procedure on Questions, but we must get on with some legislation first.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1959.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1963.6", "colnum": "1963", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Read it again.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "Mr. Speaker—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1963.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1963.8", "colnum": "1963", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"0h.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "Mr. Speaker, as the Leader of the House has said that he heard only part of my Motion I think that I should tell the House that he has had a copy of it in his hand for an hour.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1963.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1971.1", "colnum": "1971", "heading": "CAMBODIA AND VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware, first, that the North Vietnam Government have never admitted that they are at war with South Vietnam, but only that they are helping South Vietnam to fight a war of liberation against the Americans?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1971.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1985.0", "colnum": "1985", "heading": "SCHEDULE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": "it. We would be creating a little Jersey in our midst, where people in small companies would be paying no tax at all on the first £2,000, in many cases, and in other cases would be paying far less than normal. In these circumstances, we cannot possibly risk such a consequence occurring. I do not think that the hon. Member for Wimbledon (Sir C. Black) or his supporter intended any such consequence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.1985.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.2047.2", "colnum": "2047", "heading": "SCHEDULE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Sir Samuel. Will you, in view of the possibility of hon. Members being obstructed, quite accidentally—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.2047.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-03", "file": "debates1965-06-03a.xml", "sha256": "737041f27f70ac7a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.2111.2", "colnum": "2111", "heading": "SCHEDULE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "preceding_text": "Sir Harry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-03a.2111.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-04", "file": "debates1965-06-04a.xml", "sha256": "e58cff5fdbdeb961", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-04a.2153.1", "colnum": "2153", "heading": "GREAT BRITAIN (RELATIONS WITH EUROPE)", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Walter Padley)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Walter Padley)", "preceding_text": "ngus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne), but in as far as there are dangerous as well as constructive ideas on the question of European unity it is as well that they should be ventilated. I congratulate the right hon. Member for Reigate on his lack of party spirit. I was a little peeved that the right hon. and learned Member for Conway (Mr. Peter Thomas) should have devoted so much of his speech to party points—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-04a.2153.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-14", "file": "debates1965-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "3af42ae4a1e0cd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.4.3", "colnum": "4", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Money.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Summerskill", "preceding_text": "What are the complex economic and social issues which my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour has already told the Council of the T.U.C. are preventing the Government from implementing straight away their election pledge on equal pay?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.4.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-14", "file": "debates1965-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "3af42ae4a1e0cd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.14.2", "colnum": "14", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "With your permission, Mr. Speaker, I should like to take this opportunity of congratulating my right hon. Friend the Member for Easington (Mr. Shinwell) on his award.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.14.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-14", "file": "debates1965-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "3af42ae4a1e0cd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.36.0", "colnum": "36", "heading": "MACHINE TOOL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "I would remind my right hon. Friend that the delay in dealing with the problems of the machine tool industry, as is the case in respect of many industries, is a relic of the past, and is not the fault of the present Government. I said that we had considered securing a British computer, but it is not possible at this time because no British computer can do the job of work that is required.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.36.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-14", "file": "debates1965-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "3af42ae4a1e0cd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.40.0", "colnum": "40", "heading": "MACHINE TOOL INDUSTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "ike to imagine that there is, but this is not felt in the industry. The right hon. Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath) can press me, but I will give no further answer beyond saying that the Treasury and my Department are discussing the whole question of fiscal arrangements—but not exclusively for the machine tool industry—as they affect capital equipment for industry and the effect of this, in its turn—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.40.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-14", "file": "debates1965-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "3af42ae4a1e0cd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.90.1", "colnum": "90", "heading": "FORESTRY COMMISSION (ESTIMATES COMMITTEE'S REPORTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "aundiced even yet. Hon. Members have pointed out that in the past the Treasury has adduced the argument that public expenditure could not possibly be justified from a commercial point of view. The same could be said about public expenditure on education. Whenever there is a financial crisis there is a great temptation, particularly when the Conservative Party is in power, to cut back on education.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.90.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-14", "file": "debates1965-06-14a.xml", "sha256": "3af42ae4a1e0cd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.147.1", "colnum": "147", "heading": "FORESTRY COMMISSION (ESTIMATES COMMITTEE'S REPORTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willey", "preceding_text": "access by car. The position is that, in the forests, there is no access from cars. This may be because of husbandry or because of the conditions on which the Commission obtained the tenure. The Commission provides access and the first national forest park was created as long ago as 1935. As an illustration of this—I want to give the right hon. Member for Argyll (Mr. Noble) an opportunity to speak—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-14a.147.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.224.4", "colnum": "224", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boston", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boston", "preceding_text": "Would my right hon. Friend agree that the speedy decision to go ahead with this is an indication of the Government's intention to modernise Britain?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.224.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.232.3", "colnum": "232", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Member may have read in some of the Press this morning that my statement on machine tools was acceptable to the Machine Tool Trades Association. I suggest that if one continues this practice of pretending that something is a danger which does not exist—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.232.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.240.6", "colnum": "240", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft (by Private Notice)", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft (by Private Notice)", "preceding_text": "May I ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department a Question of which I have given him Private Notice, whether he is aware of the intended visit to this country of a Mr. Shelton, an American citizen, and a member of the Ku Klux Klan—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.240.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.241.2", "colnum": "241", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. When my right hon. Friend was asking his Private Notice Question I distinctly heard the hon. Member for South Ayrshire (Mr. Emrys Hughes) say, \"Like Mr. Peter Griffiths\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.241.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.241.5", "colnum": "241", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": "I think that there has been some misapprehension, Mr. Speaker. I do not think that it was anything said by my hon. Friend the Member for South Ayrshire (Mr. Emrys Hughes) that caused trouble. I certainly referred to the hon. Member for Smethwick (Mr. Peter Griffiths) in connection with this matter, because he is the major Member of the House who has conducted racialist propaganda.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.241.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.242.3", "colnum": "242", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Name.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "It is quite impossible for me to withdraw—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.242.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.242.3", "colnum": "242", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "It is quite impossible for me to withdraw—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Name.\"] It is quite impossible for me to withdraw a charge of racialist propaganda against the hon. Member for Smethwick, since everybody knows that he does it. The same applies to the Leader of the Opposition, who has never repudiated the propaganda—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.242.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.242.6", "colnum": "242", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He is not complaining.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "This is the point about it: I do not want anybody to get enraged. There is a method to be followed if a Member wishes to complain about another Member's conduct.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.242.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.243.1", "colnum": "243", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Name.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": "What I have said I believe to be in full accordance with Parliamentary precedent, Mr. Speaker. I am not prepared to withdraw anything that I have said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.243.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.246.4", "colnum": "246", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": "and perfectly what you have said to me now, Mr. Speaker, that I am not called upon at all to repudiate the accusations which I have made, but that you have said that this is not the appropriate time to make them. I appreciate greatly what you have said, and, in that sense, I withdraw. I must make it absolutely clear that I do not withdraw what I said, because I believe it to be the absolute truth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.246.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.246.5", "colnum": "246", "heading": "MR. ROBERT SHELTON (VISIT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "To reassert on an equally inappropriate occasion the insult previously delivered does not help, but the House may take the view that, in the case of the hon. Member—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.246.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.250.0", "colnum": "250", "heading": "VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about the Prime Minister?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "at the matter is definite is clear from the wording of my proposal. I do not think that anybody would doubt that acts of war are being planned or committed in or against the State of Vietnam. As to whether or not there have been any new developments in the situation, I must take into account the fact that—and I regret that the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition has left the Chamber—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.249.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.250.3", "colnum": "250", "heading": "VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "ccepted a general responsibility for the activities of the S.E.A.T.O. Council and of S.E.A.T.O. in this area. They have accepted a responsibility for endeavouring to engage in peace-making activities in Vietnam. They have also a general responsibility before the United Nations to call the attention of the United Nations—hon. Members opposite do not appear to be particularly interested in a matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.250.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.251.1", "colnum": "251", "heading": "VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": "I hope that hon. Members opposite will recognise that the whole of the British people are concerned at this moment about the possibility that Britain, if we are not very careful, might before long be engaged in a war in South East Asia, and a war on the wrong side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.251.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.264.0", "colnum": "264", "heading": "Clause 52.—(DEDUCTIONS AND ADDITIONS IN COMPUTATION OF PROFITS FOR CAPITAL ALLOWANCES AND RELATED CHARGES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " right hon. Gentleman's final words. After remarking on the drift of population to the London area, he concluded: I am opposed to this\"— the drift to the South— and I am sure that if the present Government have not the will to tackle it another Government will have to do so, and it will have to be an active policy of which this new Clause would form one part. Where is the Chancellor's promise now?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.264.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.290.1", "colnum": "290", "heading": "Clause 52.—(DEDUCTIONS AND ADDITIONS IN COMPUTATION OF PROFITS FOR CAPITAL ALLOWANCES AND RELATED CHARGES.)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Bray", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Bray", "preceding_text": "iend the Member for Ashton-under-Lyne (Mr. Sheldon) is right in saying that the direction in which we should move is towards the repayment of a proportion of the purchase price of investment goods at the time of sale. The example of computers is always mentioned in this connection. I have talked to a number of computer salesmen on this point. First, none of them has heard of investment allowances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.290.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.293.14", "colnum": "293", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where are they?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "ot much more often visibly at loggerheads with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. What we have seen and what the Committee have heard time and again, almost ad nauseam, in the past five to 10 years has been the Secretary of State and the Minister of State—who were in their places a while ago but, like the other hon. Gentlemen opposite who represent Scottish constituencies, have now left the Chamber—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.293.13"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.318.1", "colnum": "318", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Or anything else.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "swered your Question in the House on that subject the Chancellor said that he did not share the views expressed. … Of course, I might say that Mr. George Chetwynd knows a great deal more about the North-East Coast, having represented it as well as being the Secretary for the North-East Development Council, than the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who, I think, does not know very much about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.318.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.323.1", "colnum": "323", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, Hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "I have always known that the right hon. Gentleman really likes me in private. He has been made a Companion of Honour, so he is now both a Privy Councillor and a Companion of Honour. I am sure that the award by Her Majesty gave great pleasure to a great many people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.323.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.343.0", "colnum": "343", "heading": "FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "I could not say that. The previous Administration could not say this. Nobody could say that. I am afraid that the answer to a silly question is bound to be a silly answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.343.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.402.0", "colnum": "402", "heading": "Clause 56.—(LOSSES IN TRANSACTIONS FROM WHICH INCOME WOULD BE CHARGEABLE UNDER SCHEDULE D CASE VI.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "A great deal of what the hon. Member said seemed to me totally irrelevant to the Amendment he has proposed, but I must take exception to his introductory remarks in which he complained about the draftsmanship of the Bill. I think that by most connoisseurs of Parliamentary draftsmanship the Bill would be regarded as a masterpiece of elegance and lucidity—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.402.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-15", "file": "debates1965-06-15a.xml", "sha256": "c1c6efccfabf1b6d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.408.1", "colnum": "408", "heading": "EDUCATION (IMMIGRANT CHILDREN)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "preceding_text": "7,000 applications. That gives some indication of what would have happened if there had been no restriction on the intake of immigrants. Furthermore, we should remember that, throughout this period, students and dependants had been admitted free of control, but in the face of the figures for 1961, it is difficult for one to understand why the party opposite should have adopted the attitude it did—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-15a.408.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.0", "colnum": "452", "heading": "SEVEN HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF PARLIAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "Mr. Rankin rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.451.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.1", "colnum": "452", "heading": "SEVEN HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF PARLIAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "I thought—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.1", "colnum": "452", "heading": "SEVEN HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF PARLIAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "I thought—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] If I may seek leave to do so—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.2", "colnum": "452", "heading": "SEVEN HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF PARLIAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "I thought—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] If I may seek leave to do so—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—I was about to say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.4", "colnum": "452", "heading": "SEVEN HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF PARLIAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "But, Mr. Speaker, may I suggest—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.452.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.456.0", "colnum": "456", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "preceding_text": "ss of the foreign taxes on a company's profits over the Corporation Tax payable on the same profits should be allowed as a credit against the taxes paid by individual shareholders in respect of dividends paid on those foreign profits. I think that I was surely correct in saying that this Amendment raises the general principle of the right hon. Gentleman's treatment of companies operating overseas—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.456.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.458.0", "colnum": "458", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I do not wish to be difficult, but it would be for the convenience of all of us if we knew where we were going in this discussion. We had a long discussion on Second Reading on precisely the general issues which the right hon. Gentleman is now raising. He did not take part then and no doubt he has a frustrated speech which he wants to make now.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.458.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.458.0", "colnum": "458", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " a frustrated speech which he wants to make now. [HON. MEMBERS: Cheap.\"] We also had on the Clause introducing the Corporation Tax a long debate on the same general principles that the right hon. Gentleman is now raising. I am putting it to you with respect, Dr. King, whether it is the intention of the Opposition, as far as possible, to stretch the rules of order to the utmost limit that they can—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.458.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.458.0", "colnum": "458", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "l debate on the whole principle, or are we to get down to a discussion on the Amendments which we are supposed to be discussing and which are to give relief to shareholders against a tax charge on their dividends for overseas tax paid on the company's profits? Hon. Members opposite may not like this, but there are rules of order in this Committee. Some hon. Members who have only just learned this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.458.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.459.2", "colnum": "459", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "preceding_text": "speculation in Manhattan. The Chancellor's proposals in the Bill make property investment in Manhattan relatively more attractive than investment in industry in high tax-rate developing countries. I do not criticise a developing country for having a high tax-rate—it may well be justified—but I find it hard to reconcile what the Chancellor proposes today with what the Prime Minister said last year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.459.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.463.3", "colnum": "463", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir E. Boyle", "preceding_text": "view of Britain's present economic situation, the relevant criterion must be not just the return on a particular investment but its contribution towards strengthening our balance of payments. The essence of Britain's position today is that, as it were, the marginal utility of an extra £s worth of foreign exchange is substantially greater than the marginal utility of an extra £'s worth of sterling.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.463.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.495.4", "colnum": "495", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": "ange a situation in which the largest company in Britain (Shell), the third largest (B.P.), and a number of others have paid virtually no British income tax since 1960. Further in the leading article, the editor says: For four of the past five years, the\" net U.K. rate' at which Shell has been paying income tax in Britain has been one penny in the pound in the fifth year, it paid no\"— Order,order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.495.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.496.1", "colnum": "496", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": "If, by what he has said, my hon. Friend is seeking to rebuke me, I stand unrebuked. I prefer to rely on this occasion on the judgment of the Manchester Guardian —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.496.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.499.3", "colnum": "499", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Certainly.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": "le Englanders. We are trying to face the realities of our situation; as a debtor country we are no longer able to employ so large a proportion of our resources in investment overseas. One of the most successful exporters in the world of commerce, particularly since the war, has been Japan—and Japan has done no overseas investment at all in order to get markets. Does anyone wish to controvert that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.499.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.537.2", "colnum": "537", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dodds-Parker", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dodds-Parker", "preceding_text": "Yes. Let us be quite clear about it. There was a fear that one day there might be the return of a Government other than a Tory Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.537.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.561.1", "colnum": "561", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "eman the Member for West Stirlingshire (Mr. W. Baxter) and this is really the main thread running through the Chancellor's argument. It has been emphasised that this position is at present the international position. It was broadly accepted in 1947 by the Labour Government and has been carried on in this country since and is the position in international affairs at this moment as we understand it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.561.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.578.2", "colnum": "578", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "£18 million at a 35 per cent. rate of Corporation Tax and £20 million at a 40 per cent. rate. In other words, about £9 million or £10 million would be lost directly. Moreover, it is our view that, if the Amendment were accepted, the logic of the concession would be that it would have to be extended to other overseas countries than those to which we should grant it unilaterally in the Commonwealth.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.578.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.589.1", "colnum": "589", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "preceding_text": "asily by regulation. I do not believe that there is any sense in doing away with the whole O.T.C. procedure for overseas investment in order to meet either of those abuses. It is, therefore, imperative that the Government should be able to make out a case which clearly meets the points originally set out in the Royal Commission on the Taxation of Profits and Income. I want to say four more things.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.589.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.612.0", "colnum": "612", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "No, it is not confined to a particular class of O.T.C. company. It is a representative sample—I made a slip of the tongue in saying a \"selective\" sample.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.612.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.622.3", "colnum": "622", "heading": "Clause 60.—(DOUBLE TAXATION RELIEF, AND OVERSEAS TRADE CORPORATIONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "The Americans have a Corporation Tax which separates the taxation of companies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.622.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.661.1", "colnum": "661", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "I was saying, Dr. King, that I am only too glad to answer any question that any hon. Gentleman asks Me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.661.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.667.2", "colnum": "667", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "All of them.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "I shall not pursue the matter unduly, unless hon. Members opposite wish me to do so. I understood the hon. Gentleman at the beginning of his first intervention to inform the Committee that the overwhelming majority of water undertakings in Scotland were owned by the local authorities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.667.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.674.0", "colnum": "674", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "preceding_text": "will have heard my drawing an analogy between the impounding functions of a river authority, under its conservation powers, and the impounding functions which also exist for statutory water undertakings. I said that it would be extraordinarily difficult to value, for Capital Gains Tax purposes, the amount of land which was acquired either compulsorily or otherwise by a statutory water undertaking.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.674.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.679.0", "colnum": "679", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "On that point of Order. Would it be more appropriate to discuss this matter in a debate on Clause stand part?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.679.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.680.1", "colnum": "680", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "If that is the wish of the Committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.680.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.680.6", "colnum": "680", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "The Temporary Chairman", "preceding_text": "g with this matter at all, but in reply to his point of order I have pointed out that because of the two Amendments standing in the name of the Chancellor of the Exchequer it is inevitable that we shall get on to the subject before we reach that stage. I should therefore be grateful to have some guidance as to whether or not it is the wish of the Committee to discuss all three Amendments together.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.680.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.681.0", "colnum": "681", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Corfield", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Corfield", "preceding_text": "swer, if only because of the fact that he had the courtesy to raise the question earlier so that the Chief Secre- tary could send the little man to the Box to get the answer. Is it not time that the Minister without Portfolio got up and answered, or at least had the courtesy to say that it is a difficult point and he will write to my hon. Friend, or even find out that answer and let us know later?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.681.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.682.3", "colnum": "682", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "The Temporary Chairman", "preceding_text": "ich hon. Gentlemen give of each other to the House are concerned, it is normal for an hon. Member to refer to another as an hon. Member and only as an hon. Member. I always feel that when any variation from that takes place it can always be misconstrued. I am not prepared to consider what the hon. Member meant by that. I hope in future hon. Members will refer to other hon. Members as hon. Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.682.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.686.0", "colnum": "686", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\".", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "ortfolio has in mind, but in a matter of this kind, having regard to the position which the Minister shared with myself and other Members, the Government might have acceded to our request straight away tonight without adding to the Committee's work on Report. I wish that occasionally the Government would act straight away when something is acceptable to them. We just go on and on—talk, talk, talk.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.686.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.698.2", "colnum": "698", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward M. Taylor", "preceding_text": "Is it a fact that under this Clause business enterprises operated by a local authority will be exempt from Corporation Tax but a business set up by the Highland Development Board will be liable to the full rate of the tax?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.698.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.700.0", "colnum": "700", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir John Eden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir John Eden", "preceding_text": "ch the Clause will bestow upon local authority activities. Recently we have seen efforts to extend local authority trading. I do not know where this is likely to end. It is possible that local authority activity will broaden into fields hitherto untried. If so, local authorities will have a substantial advantage over individual private companies trading and operating in the same field of activity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.700.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.707.3", "colnum": "707", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Kershaw", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kershaw", "preceding_text": "ises, as they are at present defined, or as they may in future be defined when we consider the enterprises they might undertake such as water undertakings, Highlands and Islands enterprises and regional development corporations. If we are dealing with that type of local authority with industrial interests, this Clause becomes a matter of the greatest importance and not merely a matter of £750,000.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.707.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.708.1", "colnum": "708", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hirst", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hirst", "preceding_text": "I rise to speak for only a moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.708.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.711.5", "colnum": "711", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cyril Bence", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cyril Bence", "preceding_text": "All right, Josephine.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.711.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.711.6", "colnum": "711", "heading": "Clause 62.—(LOCAL AUTHORITIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "It is always very encouraging, at half-past 4 in the morning, to know that the House of Commons can laugh, but, unfortunately, I cannot join in the laughter because I did not hear what the hon. Gentleman said.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.711.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.727.2", "colnum": "727", "heading": "Clause 63.—(UNIT TRUSTS AND INVESTMENT TRUSTS.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Read on.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "ld be a net contraction at the end of the year. It is those holders who would be taxed directly, and not the trust itself—I hope that I have made it clear to the hon. Member for Twickenham that this is not a problem with which the investment trusts are faced.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 31st May, 1965; Vol. 713, c. 1288–9, 1301–2.] In view of all that, for the life of me I really do not know—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.727.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.743.4", "colnum": "743", "heading": "Clause 64.—(INSURANCE COMPANIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "preceding_text": " to insert: whether mutual or proprietary\". I am surprised to hear one or two hon. Members on the other side of the Committee say, \"What about packing up now?\" We realise that the Treasury Bench are getting very tired, but we hope that their supporters are not doing so also. We are pleased that, at this refreshing hour of the morning, we should be starting on this very important Clause, Clause 64—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.743.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.765.2", "colnum": "765", "heading": "Clause 64.—(INSURANCE COMPANIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, That the Chairman do report Progress and ask leave to sit again. Hon. Members on this side of the Committee are prepared to carry on examining with the utmost care and seriousness every one of the propositions—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.765.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.765.4", "colnum": "765", "heading": "Clause 64.—(INSURANCE COMPANIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": " Bill during the normal hours of sitting of the House, it is necessary for the Committee to sit throughout the night and for as long as 16 hours. If the Government are unable to provide time at the normal time of day, I suggest that the Committee will have to go on sitting continually like this, and the country will be able to realise the ghastly mess into which the Government have got themselves—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.765.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.788.4", "colnum": "788", "heading": "Clause 66.—(BUILDING SOCIETIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The M.B.E. as well.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": " logic. We are talking about a political decision which can be taken here and now, and this would be an earnest of the Government's endeavours to stimulate home ownership. It is all very well for Ministers to say that they sympathise with home owners and that they would like to see the building societies playing an even greater part and giving them a pat on the back for what they have done so far—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.788.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.799.2", "colnum": "799", "heading": "Clause 68.—(COMPANY PARTNERSHIPS.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": " the profit or loss in an accounting period or in anything else left on one side under the proviso to subsection (1) should be calculated according to the partner's interest during the accounting period, and the company is then charged to Corporation Tax as though it were trading alone. That, I suggest, is a fair and sensible thing to do. Under subsection (3), one makes an appropriate arrangement—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.799.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.817.1", "colnum": "817", "heading": "Clause 69.—(RESTRICTION FOR CLOSE COMPANIES ON DEDUCTION FOR DIRECTORS' REMUNERATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "The idea that there are hundreds of thousands of directors with 4 per cent. or 2 per cent. in private companies is utterly stupid. The bulk of private companies are owned and controlled by families. Certainly, a few individuals have small holdings in these private companies, and they will have an option to dispose of the holdings.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.817.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-16", "file": "debates1965-06-16a.xml", "sha256": "64a9ab6df4c0d7ae", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.839.0", "colnum": "839", "heading": "Clause 69.—(RESTRICTION FOR CLOSE COMPANIES ON DEDUCTION FOR DIRECTORS' REMUNERATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Rolf Dudley Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Rolf Dudley Williams", "preceding_text": "ngles to avoid the restrictions on companies. I have no doubt myself that those parts of the Clause which seek to restrict this evasion of taxation can be got round by any skilful lawyer. Already, I have been told of one way in which this will be done; and that is hardly a sign of a good Finance Bill, and nor is it the Chancellor's policy. I thought that it was the Chancellor's policy to simplify—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-16a.839.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-17", "file": "debates1965-06-17a.xml", "sha256": "cba42a62ddc4be99", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.980.3", "colnum": "980", "heading": "Clause 8.—(GRANTS AND LOANS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "That gives rise to a dilatory Motion and the subject matter which can then be discussed is restricted by the rules relating to a dilatory Motion. I do not know what the statement is about, but I do not suppose it to be about Highland development.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.980.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-17", "file": "debates1965-06-17a.xml", "sha256": "cba42a62ddc4be99", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.981.0", "colnum": "981", "heading": "Clause 8.—(GRANTS AND LOANS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "n any year on any individual enterprise in pursuance of the objects which I think all hon. Members hope it will be able to carry out. I am not wedded to the words of the Amendment or to the actual amount, though I should not regard it as very satisfactory if the Government were to say that they accepted the principle behind the Amendment but wanted to limit the sums concerned to a trifling amount.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.981.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-17", "file": "debates1965-06-17a.xml", "sha256": "cba42a62ddc4be99", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.981.2", "colnum": "981", "heading": "Clause 8.—(GRANTS AND LOANS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "hope that the Board will have power to spend its own money. The Secretary of State may say—and I understand his point—that he cannot accept the Amendment because it is very difficult to get the Treasury to allow a comparatively independent board, although one of my complaints is that the Board is not independent enough to have the power to spend money without being tightly controlled by the State.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.981.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-17", "file": "debates1965-06-17a.xml", "sha256": "cba42a62ddc4be99", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.983.4", "colnum": "983", "heading": "Clause 8.—(GRANTS AND LOANS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "or three or four hours, I am prepared to do it. I have been extremely careful in speaking for a very short time. Because something is afoot of which I have no knowledge—and I suspect that the hon. Member for Durham (Mr. Grey) has no knowledge of it—to make those sorts of remarks, particularly as the hon. Gentleman is a Whip, is entirely uncalled for. I am coming to the end of what I wanted to say.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.983.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-17", "file": "debates1965-06-17a.xml", "sha256": "cba42a62ddc4be99", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.1025.1", "colnum": "1025", "heading": "Clause 11.—(POWER TO OBTAIN INFORMATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willis", "preceding_text": "As I understand it, the answer to the last point is that, if the sheriff gave a decision against the Board, the Board would probably have to meet the costs. I am sorry that we cannot accept the hon. and learned Gentleman's Amendment to the Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.1025.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-17", "file": "debates1965-06-17a.xml", "sha256": "cba42a62ddc4be99", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.1026.2", "colnum": "1026", "heading": "Clause 11.—(POWER TO OBTAIN INFORMATION.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "at the Bill sought to do was particularly to help the people in the Highlands. The Amendment to the Amendment is designed particularly to help the person in the Highlands who may, perhaps through no fault of his own, find himself in danger of serious proceedings before the court which, as I understand, could, in certain circumstances, land him in prison. The Liberal Party surprised me a good deal—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.1026.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-17", "file": "debates1965-06-17a.xml", "sha256": "cba42a62ddc4be99", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.1038.1", "colnum": "1038", "heading": "Schedule 2.—(PROVISIONS AS TO THE HIGHLANDS AND ISLANDS DEVELOP- MENT CONSULTATIVE COUNCIL.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": " the Board, the widest powers to promote and set up industries there is considerable risk that private enterprise may lack confidence in starting some of the rather risky ventures, as inevitably they are in the Highland area. I should have liked to expand all these three points, but I do not think that I should in view of the fact that this debate must end rather earlier than some of us had hoped.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-17a.1038.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1177.7", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "May I preface my supplementary question by congratulating the Foreign Secretary on the lucidity, courage and intellectual power with which he presented Her Majesty's Government's case on Vietnam at the Oxford Union?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1177.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1191.3", "colnum": "1191", "heading": "UNITED NATIONS (FINANCES AND PEACE-KEEPING ARRANGEMENTS)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Michael Stewart)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Michael Stewart)", "preceding_text": "nd Lord Caradon has, therefore, informed the Secretary-General today that we pledge a sum equivalent to 10 million dollars. This decision arose from discussion with a number of other countries and, in the course of today, several other delegations will make similar voluntary unconditional pledges to the Secretary-General. This contribution is designed to help restore the United States to solvency—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1191.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1212.1", "colnum": "1212", "heading": "Clause 72.—(SHORTFALL IN DISTRIBU- TIONS OF CLOSE COMPANY (INCOME TAX AT STANDARD RATE)).", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "d has, in his open-minded and fair way, come to see that some improvement man be made, I lament very greatly that hon. Members opposite feel that they have lost a political weapon and that they cannot exacerbate further the relationship between the Government and business people who are concerned with this legislation and vent their indignation on my right hon. Friend by personal insult and abuse.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1212.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1281.4", "colnum": "1281", "heading": "Clause 72.—(SHORTFALL IN DISTRIBU- TIONS OF CLOSE COMPANY (INCOME TAX AT STANDARD RATE)).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "preceding_text": "the proposed Amendment, proposed by my hon. Friend the Member for Nottingham, South (Mr. William Clark), which in essence would have the effect of ensuring that if one has to have a designation of this sort approximately at least a third of the profit would be available for plough back. This, I should have thought, was far more in line with the kind of procedures which have been applied up to now.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1281.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1286.1", "colnum": "1286", "heading": "Clause 72.—(SHORTFALL IN DISTRIBU- TIONS OF CLOSE COMPANY (INCOME TAX AT STANDARD RATE)).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": "I suggest that there are very few taxpayers who have read it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1286.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1295.3", "colnum": "1295", "heading": "Clause 72.—(SHORTFALL IN DISTRIBU- TIONS OF CLOSE COMPANY (INCOME TAX AT STANDARD RATE)).", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman says that it is a ceiling, but I believe—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1295.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1325.5", "colnum": "1325", "heading": "Clause 73.—(APPORTIONMENT FOR SURTAX OF CLOSE COMPANY'S INCOME.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Jenkin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He has not got one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Jenkin", "preceding_text": "vel case when the word \"just\" is introduced in such a context as this, in a taxing Statute. It used to be said in relation to the equity as administered in the Courts of Chancery that the equity would vary with the length of the Lord Chancellor's foot. We now seem to have this concept transposed into the taxing Statute where the assessment seems to vary with the weight of the Minister's fortfolio.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1325.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1333.1", "colnum": "1333", "heading": "Clause 74.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PROVI- SIONS ABOUT CLOSE COMPANIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Wanstead and Woodford (Mr. Patrick Jenkin) generally makes a reasonable and rational speech, but on this occasion I cannot congratulate him—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1333.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1333.1", "colnum": "1333", "heading": "Clause 74.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PROVI- SIONS ABOUT CLOSE COMPANIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "rsons who have the choice of trading either in partnership or as an incorporated company should also have the opportunity of deciding whether it suits them better to be taxed on a part- nership or a company basis. One cannot possibly claim for individuals the right to choose to be taxed on a basis of, \"heads I win and tails you lose\". I am not concerned here with what is done in America or France—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1333.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1419.5", "colnum": "1419", "heading": "Clause 78.—(DIVIDEND INCREASES IN 1965–66.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "As the right hon. Gentleman said, it is drafting or for clarification or consequential. I am reading my notes to see which.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1419.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-21", "file": "debates1965-06-21a.xml", "sha256": "c1bcf3f301c755f5", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1430.2", "colnum": "1430", "heading": "Clause 78.—(DIVIDEND INCREASES IN 1965–66.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I think that the Committee will agree that we have made considerable progress since midnight—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-21a.1430.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-22", "file": "debates1965-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "f627af388088e604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1468.3", "colnum": "1468", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\" Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "When will it be possible for my right hon. Friend to make a statement on this important matter? Our exporters have noticed that whereas in order to encourage exports the previous Administration merely said, \"Exports are fun \"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1468.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-22", "file": "debates1965-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "f627af388088e604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1468.3", "colnum": "1468", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "When will it be possible for my right hon. Friend to make a statement on this important matter? Our exporters have noticed that whereas in order to encourage exports the previous Administration merely said, \"Exports are fun \"—[HON. MEMBERS:\" Question.\"]—they have noticed that the present Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1468.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-22", "file": "debates1965-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "f627af388088e604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1468.4", "colnum": "1468", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "In answer to the question—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1468.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-22", "file": "debates1965-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "f627af388088e604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1541.3", "colnum": "1541", "heading": "Clause 79. (TRANSITIONAL RELIEF FOR EXISTING COMPANIES WITH OVERSEAS TRADING INCOME.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "Thank you, Mr. Steele. The two Amendments relate to subsection (4), which we have been discussing and which is concerned with—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1541.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-22", "file": "debates1965-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "f627af388088e604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1607.1", "colnum": "1607", "heading": "Clause 80.—(TRANSITIONAL RELIEF FOR COMPANIES PAYING DIVIDENDS OUT OF PRE-1966–67 PROFITS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "I beg to move Amendment No. 612, in page 109, line 30, after the second \"the\", to insert \"financial\". This is a drafting Amendment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1607.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-22", "file": "debates1965-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "f627af388088e604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1611.0", "colnum": "1611", "heading": "Clause 81.—(TRANSITIONAL RELIEF FOR EXISTING COMPANIES ON CESSATION OF TRADE ETC.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "The Amendment arises because, under the present system, we suffer from some complexity in calculating the profits of a business in its opening and closing years. This is one of the many complexities which will be removed by Corporation Tax and things will get a good deal simpler, especially for the business man.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1611.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-22", "file": "debates1965-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "f627af388088e604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1624.5", "colnum": "1624", "heading": "Clause 83.—(INTERPRETATION OF PART IV.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John M. Temple", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John M. Temple", "preceding_text": "ment No. 350, in page 114, line 10, at the end, to insert: ( k ) \"a registered industrial and provident society \"shall also include references to a co-operative type of company whose constitution conforms with regulations made under the Agricultural and Forestry Associations Act, 1962. This is a fairly readily comprehensible Amendment, and I can only hope that it is in the right place in the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1624.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-22", "file": "debates1965-06-22a.xml", "sha256": "f627af388088e604", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1677.8", "colnum": "1677", "heading": "Schedule 17.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PROVISIONS ABOUT CLOSE COMPANIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "preceding_text": "The world outside will take a very jaundiced view of important provisions in this Schedule being dealt with by the Committee at 1.25 a.m. after the Committee sat until 3.15 a.m. yesterday. But I want to make it clear that my hon. and right hon. Friends who have been studying these matters are quite prepared to give them careful attention for as long as is required.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-22a.1677.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1778.1", "colnum": "1778", "heading": "New Clause.—(EASTER OR OTHER SIMILAR OFFERINGS TO BE EXEMPT FROM INCOME TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Raymond Gower", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Some hope.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Raymond Gower", "preceding_text": "the House of Commons, in common with many of my colleagues, I have learnt to admire the hon. Gentleman's abiding interest in the work of the Christian Church and, in particular, of the Anglican Church. On the other hand, I am disturbed that on this occasion the hon. Gentleman is appearing on the Treasury Bench. I only hope that his deep sympathy will triumph over his association with the Treasury.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1778.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1783.0", "colnum": "1783", "heading": "New Clause.—(EASTER OR OTHER SIMILAR OFFERINGS TO BE EXEMPT FROM INCOME TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "He was a Treasury Minister.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": ", South-West (Mr. Powell) said: It seems clear to me that these payments are indisputably and unavoidably of the nature of income, and most of the arguments which have been used in favour of this Clause only strengthens the view that these payments are income. Neither their voluntary origin, nor the low pay of the recipients, nor the nature of the occasion on which the payments are made, nor any\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1781.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1800.1", "colnum": "1800", "heading": "New Clause.—(EASTER OR OTHER SIMILAR OFFERINGS TO BE EXEMPT FROM INCOME TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "I am sure that many hon. Members wish to press on with our other business.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1800.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1832.3", "colnum": "1832", "heading": "New Clause.—(NON-FERROUS METAL MINES IN UNITED KINGDOM: RELIEF FROM CORPORATION TAX.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. G. R. Howard (St. Ives)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. R. Howard (St. Ives)", "preceding_text": "felt that there was a future in this great industry, and I am sure that they would encourage their sons to go into the industry if they thought that there was a future in it and that things would improve. The attendance on the benches opposite is very thin, but there is one hon. Member opposite who I know would be here if he could and that is the hon. Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Mr. Hayman).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1832.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1850.0", "colnum": "1850", "heading": "New Clause.—(RELIEF FOR BLIND PERSONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "aintain disabled and elderly people in their own homes. It is a wide series of new Clauses and I regret that in our discussion of the Bill we have had very little opportunity to discuss the problems which arise. I am, therefore, glad that so many of the new Clauses with which we are dealing are concerned with these problems. New Clause No. 20 is rather long, so I will not read it to the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1850.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1851.1", "colnum": "1851", "heading": "New Clause.—(RELIEF FOR BLIND PERSONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Well spoken.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "I do not like to criticise members of my own side, Mr. Grant-Ferris, but I sometimes wish that they would exercise a little common sense. There could not have been a more inconvenient or unhappy moment to call a count—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1873.1", "colnum": "1873", "heading": "New Clause.—(RELIEF FOR BLIND PERSONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "e not matters which we have ever undertaken to carry out within 12 months. I remember my right hon. Friend the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs making several speeches during the General Election which made it perfectly clear that our programme was not merely a five-year programme but that much of it would require a second full term before we could carry it out.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1873.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1875.4", "colnum": "1875", "heading": "New Clause.—(RELIEF FOR BLIND PERSONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "urse, to give assistance to people who, by reason of disablement, incur additional expenditure which ordinary people do not incur. Again, those who are familiar with the administration of our social insurance provisions will know that there are many people 100 per cent. disabled—fully within that term—who are able to be remuneratively employed without incurring any additional expenditure whatever—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1875.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1880.0", "colnum": "1880", "heading": "New Clause.—(RELIEF FOR BLIND PERSONS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I was giving way to the hon. Lady, but perhaps she does not now wish to interrupt.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1880.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1889.3", "colnum": "1889", "heading": "New Clause 33.—(ANNUAL ALLOWANCES IN RESPECT OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURE ON SHIPS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ian Lloyd", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ian Lloyd", "preceding_text": "a Second time. A professor of logic was recently much exercised by the problem of defining a dog. It was not solved for him until one of his brighter students had produced the definition that a dog was an animal which was recognised by other dogs. I could not help the Financial Secretary were he perturbed by the problem of defining the Finance Bill, because it certainly would not be recognised by—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1889.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-23", "file": "debates1965-06-23a.xml", "sha256": "a87725cb8766a820", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1901.0", "colnum": "1901", "heading": "New Clause 33.—(ANNUAL ALLOWANCES IN RESPECT OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURE ON SHIPS.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Clark", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Clark", "preceding_text": "epreciation allowance. Furthermore, there is no question of tax avoidance here because, if there is free depreciation allowance, there is also the balancing charge so that the Exchequer recoups the difference between the allowances given and the sale price of the ship. That being so, I cannot understand what is the Chief Secretary's objection. I am glad to see that the Chancellor has now returned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-23a.1901.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1937.3", "colnum": "1937", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that although many of us on this side of the House have nothing against the Paymaster-General", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1937.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1939.0", "colnum": "1939", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "In the words of the lady at the Hammersmith Palais de Danse, I say to the right hon. Gentleman, \"Do you come here often?\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1939.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1939.0", "colnum": "1939", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "In the words of the lady at the Hammersmith Palais de Danse, I say to the right hon. Gentleman, \"Do you come here often?\" [ Laughter. ] It is very nice to see the right hon. Gentleman. On his question, I think that the position that the House now has to face, with the pretty fair knowledge that we are not likely to be able to introduce much new legislation between now and July—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1939.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1939.3", "colnum": "1939", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I have said—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1939.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1943.0", "colnum": "1943", "heading": "VIETNAM (COMMONWEALTH MISSION)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I agree with my hon. Friend about this. The reason why the Commonwealth had to take action is that we are not only very representative of the world in general but we have so many different views amongst ourselves—I do not disguise it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1943.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1947.2", "colnum": "1947", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Warbey", "preceding_text": " problems of Vietnam was misconceived and has failed ignominiously to check the revolt of the Vietnamese people against the violation of the Geneva Agreements and of the Final Declaration by the Great Powers, to cement the Anglo-American alliance, or to divide the Communist alliance. ] which censures the Leader of the Opposition for the hypocritical part which he has played over this whole matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1947.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1960.1", "colnum": "1960", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I suppose that if he asks my permission and submitted it, an hon. Member in this situation might make a personal statement—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1960.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1962.5", "colnum": "1962", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": " sittings and its many Amendments, I think that both sides of the Committee would like me to commend the servants of the House for their very faithful service during the long Committee stage of the Bill, especially the OFFICIAL REPORTERS, for dealing and coping with highly complex debates. Above all, I would wish to commend the printers, who, night by night, have had to cope with the Notice Paper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.1962.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2033.0", "colnum": "2033", "heading": "New Clause.—(STAMP DUTIES ON LIFE INSURANCE POLICIES.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Divide.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "Mr. William Yates rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2032.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2077.0", "colnum": "2077", "heading": "New Schedule.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PRO- VISIONS ABOUT TRANSITIONAL RELIEF FOR EXISTING COMPANIES WITH OVERSEAS TRADING INCOME.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "preceding_text": "This is the very last of the Amendments, new Clauses and Schedules which we have had to consider in Committee, and I am sure that this will be no cause for sorrow to many hon. Members. Dr. King, I am sure that everyone will wish to thank you very much for all that you have done during our proceedings in Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2077.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2078.0", "colnum": "2078", "heading": "New Schedule.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PRO- VISIONS ABOUT TRANSITIONAL RELIEF FOR EXISTING COMPANIES WITH OVERSEAS TRADING INCOME.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Maxwell", "preceding_text": "Although I have not been in the Chamber today until now, and had not intended to intervene—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2078.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2079.1", "colnum": "2079", "heading": "New Schedule.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PRO- VISIONS ABOUT TRANSITIONAL RELIEF FOR EXISTING COMPANIES WITH OVERSEAS TRADING INCOME.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "Mr. MacDermot rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2079.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2081.0", "colnum": "2081", "heading": "New Schedule.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PRO- VISIONS ABOUT TRANSITIONAL RELIEF FOR EXISTING COMPANIES WITH OVERSEAS TRADING INCOME.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A landmark.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "I have already thanked the staff this afternoon, Dr. King, but I would like to join the Chancellor of the Exchequer in thanking you and your colleagues who have occupied the Chair during this long and complicated Committee stage. I would not go so far as to say that this is a noteworthy point during the passage of the Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2081.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-24", "file": "debates1965-06-24a.xml", "sha256": "8f72fec36b6965f4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2081.2", "colnum": "2081", "heading": "New Schedule.—(SUPPLEMENTARY PRO- VISIONS ABOUT TRANSITIONAL RELIEF FOR EXISTING COMPANIES WITH OVERSEAS TRADING INCOME.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chairman", "preceding_text": "As the proceedings during the last two minutes have been out of order, perhaps the Chair can be out of order for a few moments so that I may say that I am happy to testify to the fact that the congratulations given by the two right hon. Gentlemen to the Chair I give to my deputy and to the team who have worked with me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-24a.2081.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-25", "file": "debates1965-06-25a.xml", "sha256": "870d73d4847b149f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-25a.2200.1", "colnum": "2200", "heading": "New Clause.—(RELEASE ON LICENCE OF THOSE SENTENCED FOR MURDER.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Victor Goodhew", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Victor Goodhew", "preceding_text": " lung cancer, who are urging us to keep death off the roads and is warning people to take care when they are driving. I would have expected them to accept that the loss of life is something which people wish to avoid. However, this is a matter which applies now, and we have to find a substitute for the deterrent. I will leave that there, Mr. Deputy-Speaker; I notice that you are becoming restless.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-25a.2200.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.14.3", "colnum": "14", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I can assure the hon. Member that the red cushions which were the offending ones—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.14.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.16.0", "colnum": "16", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He said so.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "If the Minister is not at the moment aware of the cost of these houses, will he be good enough to inform himself and let the House know what the cost comparison is with traditional houses?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.16.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.24.3", "colnum": "24", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Braddock", "preceding_text": "se rises for the Summer Adjournment, which will deal, among other matters, with the wages and conditions of staff. I should like to take the opportunity to place on record on behalf of the Kitchen Committee and, I hope, of all Members our thanks for the attention given to us by the staff during the recent all-night sittings, and this applies to the Manager and every individual member of the staff.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.24.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.49.1", "colnum": "49", "heading": "MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": " been under consideration since 8th April—that is three months ago. It is therefore remarkable that such a central point of principle as this is now assumed to be, judging by the short speeches to which we have just listened, should have been delayed for so long. I am driven to the conclusion—and I do not wish to be discourteous to anybody—that this is a sort of late spanner thrown into the works.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.49.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.56.1", "colnum": "56", "heading": "MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"Jolly good luck to it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "preceding_text": "stries in joint firms, sometimes by taking over further private enterprise industries, strengthening its own operations in the coal and the coal by-products field. Coal by-products today is a vast sector of industry, very nearly embraced in the chemical industry. In the same way, I do not know how many people realise that the National Coal Board is in a consortium looking for oil in the North Sea.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.56.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.86.0", "colnum": "86", "heading": "MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Jobs for the boys.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": " malice or acrimony, or without wishing to be polemical, that if it is known that the Government, whatever their colour, have an unfettered discretion to multiply the numbers on bodies of this sort we might be setting up some kind of breeder reactor, to use a term of the Atomic Energy Authority, because people who operate in the same professional fields have a sort of freemasonry among themselves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.86.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.86.0", "colnum": "86", "heading": "MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. T. Price", "preceding_text": "he idea. There should always be a limit on the powers vested in any executive, particularly a Government Ministry. I hope that these few desultory remarks will be taken in the spirit in which I have delivered them. I take it that there will not be a Division on the Amendment so that I shall not be embarrassed by having to go through the Opposition Lobby. I can therefore speak with greater abandon.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.86.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.192.2", "colnum": "192", "heading": "MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Hall", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Hall", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, That further consideration of the Bill, as amended, be now adjourned. I move this Motion largely to ascertain the Government's intentions. The House will agree that we have made good progress up to now. The speeches from this side have been short and to the point.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.192.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.232.0", "colnum": "232", "heading": "MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Eden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Eden", "preceding_text": ". Is that the intention of the Government? As I understand it, if Amendment No. 37 is accepted it will have the effect of leaving out the words from \"result\" in line 38 to \"prevail\" in the next line, with the insertion of the words, \"the following conditions\". So the result would be that the Bill would read, as a result the following conditions or do so to a greater extent … Is that not so?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.232.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-28", "file": "debates1965-06-28a.xml", "sha256": "f137139cb2a12773", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.250.3", "colnum": "250", "heading": "MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Darling", "preceding_text": "I beg to move Amendment No. 62, in page 14, line 43, to leave out \"three million\" and to insert \"five hundred thousand\". This Amendment is consequential.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-28a.250.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.284.5", "colnum": "284", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — LOCAL GOVERNMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cordle", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cordle", "preceding_text": "at the cost of maintaining cliffs and protecting them from erosion falls heavily on the local rates? The beautiful areas of coasts and cliffs are surely a national beauty shared by so many that this should be a national liability. Is not the hon. Gentleman aware that applications have been made to help in respect of the immense charges and costs for work between Bournemouth Pier and Boscombe Pier—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.284.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.301.5", "colnum": "301", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — IMMIGRATION AND SUPPLY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend, who is an extremely active junior Minister, is co-ordinating—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.301.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.306.3", "colnum": "306", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SPAIN", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "What I do accept is that the right hon. Gentleman, being perfectly well aware of what the reaction of the Spanish Government was to the Gibraltar situation last year, was quite wrong, for the sake of what he thought would be a popular vote catching-measure, to offer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.306.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.307.3", "colnum": "307", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SPAIN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Mr. Biggs-Davison.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.307.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.308.7", "colnum": "308", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH PRIME MINISTERS' MEETING", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "al conference in order to ensure progress to independence on a basis acceptable to the people of Rhodesia as a whole. Apart from these major political problems, the meeting approved the terms of reference of the Commonwealth Secretariat and appointed its first Secretary-General. I am sure that the whole House will wish to join with me in wishing Mr. Arnold Smith every success for this new venture.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.308.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.311.1", "colnum": "311", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH PRIME MINISTERS' MEETING", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ngaged proceed satisfactorily, as I hope they will, then, as the communiqué said, a conference to prepare a constitution—the terms of independence—would presumably be an automatic and agreed measure and there would be no problems on the lines that the right hon. Gentleman has indicated. If not, we have said that we are prepared to consider promoting a constitutional conference of that kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.311.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.311.1", "colnum": "311", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH PRIME MINISTERS' MEETING", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "s. The important thing is to try to get these negotiations advanced and not start looking at things which may not arise for six months or 12 months, and which may not arise at all. I think that we are more concerned to get a satisfactory solution of this problem, which the right hon. Gentleman—I do not complain—left for his successor to deal with. He had to face the same problem at the conference—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.311.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.358.0", "colnum": "358", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "d date of retirement and leave it empty for all that time. One of the matters with which we are concerned is the possibility that a person might leave a property empty because of his fear that he could not recover possession at the end of a fixed term of lease. No one in his right senses, aged 45, would acquire a house in contemplation of retirement 20 years later and leave it empty all that time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.358.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.371.2", "colnum": "371", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "n. Members opposite have properly referred, which is deserving of sympathy, I should have thought that, broadly speaking, the provisions of the 1933 Act would be a satisfactory remedy. However, the situation that is referred to of someone who makes specific arrangements for retirement, particularly the kind of case referred to by the hon. Member for Lubbock—I am sorry, for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.371.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.383.0", "colnum": "383", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "rown up a number of very difficult issues but two things emerge clearly from it. The first is that hon. Members on both sides of the House are not happy about the present state of the Bill so far as it deals with the general question of the owner occupier seeking to resume possession of a house. Secondly, I think that it is clear, though I do not know whether I carry hon. Members opposite with me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.383.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.383.0", "colnum": "383", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "uty abroad, whether in the service of the Crown or a company trading overseas, to find that the house which he was intending to go into is, despite the pledged word of the tenant, still being occupied by that tenant. The typical case is that of a man, his wife and children arriving with all the baggage that such a family would have, the canary in the cage, children crying after a long air journey—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.383.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.433.0", "colnum": "433", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"It will be done regionally?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "s, of working over the recontrol. An area like Cornwall and Devon, which I have looked at as a possible sub-area, will have only 20,000 cases to be dealt with. Therefore, it seemed to me that areas where the problem is not acute—and this is a problem which is mainly acute in half a dozen conurbations—should be able to move forward at a different pace from an area which has an overwhelming problem.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.433.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.440.0", "colnum": "440", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "on Clause 22, when we come to rent-fixing, but on this Clause they cannot deny me the right to prevent tenants from having to pay in one jump the big increase which is required of them. As this is all that this subsection does, I find it difficult to believe that they will not permit us that degree of humanity, even if it does require a flexibility of mind which I know some of them find difficult.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.438.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.449.6", "colnum": "449", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, That the C1ause be read a Second time. This Clause completes the revision of the old Clause 15, in which we deal with transition. As it includes a basic change in the provisions of the Bill, I ought to spend a word on it. In Committee, it was pointed out to me that Clause 15 gave the Minister power theoretically—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.449.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.476.0", "colnum": "476", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John E. Talbot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not for long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John E. Talbot", "preceding_text": "In 1970, he, having continued as tenant, dies at the age of 80. His wife having predeceased him, the tenancy will pass, under existing law, to an unmarried son living with him, aged 40. If we go a stage further and say that this man of 40 gets married, and, as middle-aged men often do, he selects a wife considerably younger than himself, aged 25, he may remain in occupation for a further 10 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.476.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.476.0", "colnum": "476", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John E. Talbot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The house will then be knocked down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John E. Talbot", "preceding_text": "ppose that my constitution is better than that of the hon. Gentleman who interrupted. This is a matter of simple arithmetic. There are 50 years in the first tenancy and 40 in the second. That makes a total of 90 and a possible 20 or 25 years further in the third tenancy. This means that the house, let in 1915, will not become vacant, under the terms of this Clause potentially, until the year 2030.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.476.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.513.2", "colnum": "513", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hendry", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hendry", "preceding_text": "ent which is received by a landlord is not sufficient to pay the very minimum of repairs necessary for these houses. 1.30 a.m. I propose this Clause not in the interests of landlords, because, after all, with tiny rents like that there would be very little benefit to the landlord from a very small increase such as the 25 per cent. which I have suggested, but in the interests of the tenant himself—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.513.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.524.6", "colnum": "524", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "I was only trying to reduce the temperature of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.524.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.530.2", "colnum": "530", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Corfield", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Corfield", "preceding_text": " the new Clause, that it was probably an agreed Amendment, though there is a certain amount of significance in the fact that the hon. Members on the other side whose names are put to the Clause, the hon. Member for Salford, E. (Mr. Frank Allaun) and the hon. Lady the Member for Holborn and St. Pancras, South (Mrs. Lena Jeger) are not in their places. Whether it is significant or not I do not know.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.530.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-29", "file": "debates1965-06-29a.xml", "sha256": "1fd9ae542c5c7c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.545.4", "colnum": "545", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "I will certainly get down to the meat of the Clause. Engineers are not supposed to be backing this Clause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-29a.545.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-30", "file": "debates1965-06-30a.xml", "sha256": "6453b1b5e51f5926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.606.0", "colnum": "606", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — POST OFFICE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Slater", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Slater", "preceding_text": "blic. I must ask the House to realise how the service actually operates on behalf of the general public. There has to be a messenger who goes to the railway station, and the packet is put on the first available train to the station of destination. The office of delivery is notified by service telegram, and that office in turn sends a messenger to meet the train and deliver the packet. If a packet—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.606.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-30", "file": "debates1965-06-30a.xml", "sha256": "6453b1b5e51f5926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.607.3", "colnum": "607", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — POST OFFICE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gibson-Watt", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gibson-Watt", "preceding_text": "I accept what the right hon. Gentleman has said—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.607.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-30", "file": "debates1965-06-30a.xml", "sha256": "6453b1b5e51f5926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.607.3", "colnum": "607", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — POST OFFICE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gibson-Watt", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gibson-Watt", "preceding_text": "I accept what the right hon. Gentleman has said—[ Interruption. ]—but will he not also accept—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.607.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-30", "file": "debates1965-06-30a.xml", "sha256": "6453b1b5e51f5926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.656.0", "colnum": "656", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "preceding_text": "roperty. A mortgagee, in reliance upon the order in the hands of his mortgagor, may have taken steps, perhaps, to recover possession of the property or some irrevocable steps in relation to the property. The Attorney-General said that it would be most foolhardy for any owner, in face of what we are doing in the House, to disregard Clause 14. Who outside the House knows about Clause 14 of the Bill?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.656.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-06-30", "file": "debates1965-06-30a.xml", "sha256": "6453b1b5e51f5926", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.736.0", "colnum": "736", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Dickson Mabon", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Dickson Mabon", "preceding_text": "mber the case of the coachman and one or two other rather entertaining examples of Victorian morality which were cited in this connection. We have taken the matter very seriously and looked closely at all the hon. Gentleman said. We consider that Amendments Nos. 53 and 59, which hang together, clarify the law and bring the Bill in relation to the law of Scotland beyond doubt. At least, we hope so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-06-30a.736.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.803.2", "colnum": "803", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "What I mean is this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.803.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.804.0", "colnum": "804", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "Since on a previous occasion the Secretary of State gave false figures to the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.804.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.815.0", "colnum": "815", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "While thanking my hon. Friend for his thanks—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.815.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.817.1", "colnum": "817", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "earned Friend the Member for the Wirral (Mr. Selwyn Lloyd), a number of cases had to be settled, including a number neatly swept under the carpet at the last election—not excluding the postal workers, whose claim was swept under the carpet because an election was in prospect. I would further say that if the right hon. Gentleman wants to help the acceptance of an incomes policy he might reconsider—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.817.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.818.0", "colnum": "818", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I think that the reason why we have—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.818.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.823.0", "colnum": "823", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and learned Member knows perfectly well that this is one of the courtesies of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.823.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.823.1", "colnum": "823", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Philip Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And strangled.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Philip Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "Does my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House realise that as the summer has gone more and more hon. Members have come to think that the Committee stage of the Finance Bill ought to be taken upstairs?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.823.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.823.3", "colnum": "823", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. Nugent", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Nugent", "preceding_text": "see their Members of Parliament. ] This Motion, in the names of some hon. and right hon. Friends and myself, calls attention to the situation which occurred in the Central Lobby of the Palace of Westminster yesterday. It was heavily crowded for the whole of business for seven or eight hours, more congested and noisy than I have ever known it before, and so impeding the traditional right of access—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.823.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.824.1", "colnum": "824", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. Nugent", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Nugent", "preceding_text": "In view of the impeding of the traditional right of access—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.824.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.825.0", "colnum": "825", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Orme", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not fair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Orme", "preceding_text": "Has my right hon. Friend seen Motion No. 257 on the Order Paper, on the modernisation of Parliament? My hon. Friends and myself want to press for a debate. Many of us are highly dissatisfied with the progress of the Select Committee on Procedure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.825.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.828.0", "colnum": "828", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "While thanking the Leader of the House for his assurance that on the Murder (Abolition of Death Penalty) Bill the clear wishes of the majority of the House will not be frustrated by the bloodthirsty and wrecking tactics of a minority—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.828.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.829.2", "colnum": "829", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "Has my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House seen Motion No. 272, which deals with the increase of rents in Govan Parliamentary division? It requires correction only on one point, namely, where £4 19s. appears instead of £14 19s. May I say, Mr. Speaker—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.829.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.829.2", "colnum": "829", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "Has my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House seen Motion No. 272, which deals with the increase of rents in Govan Parliamentary division? It requires correction only on one point, namely, where £4 19s. appears instead of £14 19s. May I say, Mr. Speaker—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] May I support what I am asking—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.829.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.829.2", "colnum": "829", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO).\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "Has my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House seen Motion No. 272, which deals with the increase of rents in Govan Parliamentary division? It requires correction only on one point, namely, where £4 19s. appears instead of £14 19s. May I say, Mr. Speaker—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] May I support what I am asking—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—by saying", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.829.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.851.1", "colnum": "851", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Gentleman cannot remember, I will endeavour to find it in HANSARD.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.853.1", "colnum": "853", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Public Building and Works (Mr. Charles Pannell)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Public Building and Works (Mr. Charles Pannell)", "preceding_text": "speech that houses were built by moneylenders, by building societies, or, perhaps, by lawyers, at a pedestrian pace—the hon. Gentleman is a notable pedestrian. He never said a word about builders, the people who do the building. He does not seem to understand that we are talking about an industry with 2 million men. He does not understand the facts of life. I shall not attempt to meet his figures.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.853.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.855.3", "colnum": "855", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I do not know anything about the figure which has been referred to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.855.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.856.2", "colnum": "856", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I shall deal with those figures and my own figures in my own way and in the proper context.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.856.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.856.6", "colnum": "856", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What have we got now?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "e Minister of Housing and Local Government. It was unrealistic. Together with the public sector, it would have produced 460,000 starts this year. I knew that the industry had neither the skilled manpower nor the materials to achieve such a programme. I have already said that the builders were pessimists. That pessimism is borne of 13 years of Conservative rule, with a pathological fear of stop-go.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.856.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.856.6", "colnum": "856", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "ry has risen to the challenge. Let no one underrate its performance. In the past few years it has expanded its output at an astonishing pace—a 50 per cent. increase in new work in six years. I have every confidence that output will continue to rise. But we cannot build everything we want at the same time. In Aneurin Bevan's historic phrase, \"The history of priorities is the language of Socialism\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.856.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.889.0", "colnum": "889", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Price", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": "f the things which still stands is the liability placed on a local authority which refuses a development certificate to a landowner to pay compensation in respect of the betterment which otherwise would have taken place. I know that this is a highly controversial issue. My right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government need not look agitated or apprehensive that I might attack him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.889.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.889.2", "colnum": "889", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Price", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": "at I have to say in a general way. I wish to refer to one aspect which must be seriously considered by the present Administration. I refer to the way in which all kinds of ineffective, inefficient people can pester the building industry by setting themselves up under present company law with a nominal capital of £100 and start to build houses on a vast scale. I could give details to the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.889.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.889.2", "colnum": "889", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Price", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": "hich should be condemned in the House of Commons. This company which has operated in my constituency was registered in 1958 or 1959 with a nominal capital of £100. I suppose that some solicitor drew up the articles of association and gave the company legal validity under the Companies Act, as it stands. This is all being investigated now by the Jenkins Committee. We are still waiting for a report.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.889.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.898.5", "colnum": "898", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman puts that rather well, but he must remember that it is the completion of houses that really matters. We all accept that housing should not be a party issue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.898.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.901.1", "colnum": "901", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "preceding_text": "I think that, if an average is worked out, the figure is reduced considerably.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.901.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.907.3", "colnum": "907", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "preceding_text": "tput, to become more effective and efficient, to invest in new machinery in order to save labour and expensive time on the site and to use new materials and methods of construction. We have never told the industry that it really should put its house in order and improve its management methods. It is interesting to study the types of persons who become directors of the large construction companies—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.907.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.940.1", "colnum": "940", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nothing.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "s intentions on a matter as basic as this to individual decisions taken now is necessarily to create uncertainty. There is the same uncertainty about the Government's policy on land. In the Queen's Speech we were told that they were setting up a Land Commission. In the election literature a highly detailed and quite outrageous scheme was propounded to the public. What have we heard about it since?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.940.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.948.1", "colnum": "948", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "The other thing which he asked me about—I want to give these facts as fast as I can—was for the facts about housing up to now. As he does not like starts, I will give him completions. In the first five months of the year—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.948.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-01", "file": "debates1965-07-01a.xml", "sha256": "95a160ec28efc632", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.950.1", "colnum": "950", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "tuation which hon. Gentlemen opposite never faced. Despite all the incentives which they poured out to landlords, the pool of rented accommodation was reduced by 1 million houses in the last seven years. It fell under them by about 200,000 houses each year, partly owing to slum clearance but largely owing to demolition—that is, perfectly good rented houses all replaced by offices and luxury flats.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-01a.950.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-05", "file": "debates1965-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "0fd5f7990fc4e7a4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1245.0", "colnum": "1245", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Nicholas Ridley", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Reactionaries.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nicholas Ridley", "preceding_text": "n for the support of land by other persons and, in his wisdom, he declined to accept that concept. The only reason he advanced and the only one he has advanced tonight is that he declined to diverge front the precedents already set in this matter. I cannot help remarking in passing that it is odd for a Government of the colour we have now to be frightened of departing from precedent in any matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1245.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-05", "file": "debates1965-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "0fd5f7990fc4e7a4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1279.0", "colnum": "1279", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Martin Redmayne", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Cheer up!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Martin Redmayne", "preceding_text": "mendment we moved in Committee. It would be a great pity if that gap were left and I doubt very much if the Government intend that it should be so. If I may, I will now refer to the Amendment in the name of my hon. Friend the Member for Barry (Mr. Gower). If he had not put it forward, others of my hon. Friends and I would have done so. We all know that 50 to 60 is a dangerous age. I am rising 55.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1279.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-05", "file": "debates1965-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "0fd5f7990fc4e7a4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1279.0", "colnum": "1279", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Martin Redmayne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Martin Redmayne", "preceding_text": "Member for Barry (Mr. Gower). If he had not put it forward, others of my hon. Friends and I would have done so. We all know that 50 to 60 is a dangerous age. I am rising 55.—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Cheer up!\"] A man of my age, afflicted by any sort of disability which makes him incapable of carrying on his business—I do not regard myself, fortunately, as in that class—may yet live for many years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1279.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-05", "file": "debates1965-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "0fd5f7990fc4e7a4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1287.0", "colnum": "1287", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Captain L. P. S. Orr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He cannot.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain L. P. S. Orr", "preceding_text": "ing for these men to employ labour other than that provided by members of their families, and they all work these long hours, and it is often the case that, because of ill-health they want to retire earlier than at the age of 65. I plead with the Minister to consider whether, if not by way of this Amendment then by way of something of his o.wn, he could meet the point which has been so ably made.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1287.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-05", "file": "debates1965-07-05a.xml", "sha256": "0fd5f7990fc4e7a4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1295.0", "colnum": "1295", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "hat hardship could be caused, and that—after the moving speech of his hon. Friend the Member for Peckham about those people with an incurable disease—there is a very strong case here. But the Financial Secretary fell back on the argument that it was administratively impossible. I cannot see why. If the person concerned can produce medical evidence that his retirement is due to no fault of his own—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-05a.1295.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1336.4", "colnum": "1336", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Ask a question.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "preceding_text": "to find ourselves confronted with the horrid Measure with which the Government have threatened the country and the industry? Is he also aware that we do not share the illusion, which he evidently does, that the Prime Minister ever makes anything clear? Will he kindly bear in mind that though we are prepared to wait for ever, we are nevertheless optimistic enough to expect that every now and again—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1336.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1338.2", "colnum": "1338", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morris", "cue_text": "H.Ms: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morris", "preceding_text": "The issue raised by the hon. Member is a matter for the day-to-day management of the Board", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1338.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1349.3", "colnum": "1349", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "Mr. Speaker, I am sure that you have ruled on the hon. Baronet's complaint in accordance with precedents. He has made a very serious charge. It is 20 years since I was elected to the House of Commons—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1349.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1355.1", "colnum": "1355", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "I agree so much with every word said by my hon. Friend the Member for Devonport—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1355.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1356.3", "colnum": "1356", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Grimond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Grimond", "preceding_text": "I had certainly not intended to speak on this matter. As a member of the Committee of Privileges, I would have thought it improper to express any view upon a particular matter before the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1356.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1359.0", "colnum": "1359", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Vote.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "y, or something of that kind, but a great number will vote against it. Some Liberals will vote against it. I do not know what the Leader of the Liberal Party will do, but he is clearly not happy about it, and I doubt whether anybody in the House is happy about it. I appeal to my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House to consider this matter, and to see whether he should not withdraw his Motion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1358.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1359.2", "colnum": "1359", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "out of date. However, they are certainly overdue for reform. I would hope that perhaps from this incident there may come a new impetus towards reform. I agree with the right hon. Gentleman that it would be quite wrong, in reference to a particular case, to try to change the rules. What is more, it would be utterly wrong to try to change the rules because a member of the Treasury Bench is involved.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1359.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1360.1", "colnum": "1360", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They still do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "ics, there was a fierce controversy between the two sides of the House—the Liberals and the Conservatives—about the landlords. When Mr. Asquith was Prime Minister, and Mr. Winston Churchill and Mr. Lloyd George were distinguished members of the Liberal Party, it became almost a platitude to say that Tory Members of the House of Commons represented the great landed vested interests of this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1360.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1367.1", "colnum": "1367", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. With great respect, Mr. Speaker, may I have your permission to put a question to my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1367.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1367.1", "colnum": "1367", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. With great respect, Mr. Speaker, may I have your permission to put a question to my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House? [ Interruption. ] I hope that hon. Gentlemen opposite will be quiet. As I was saying, Mr. Speaker, I want your permission to put a question to my right. hon. Friend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1367.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1367.5", "colnum": "1367", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Rolf Dudley-Williams", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Rolf Dudley-Williams", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. In view of the fact that the Leader of the House has been completely let down by his party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1367.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1368.2", "colnum": "1368", "heading": "BALLOT FOR NOTICES OF MOTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "No. I do not follow the exercise of the hon. Gentleman's intelligence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1368.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1429.0", "colnum": "1429", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "ons. Perhaps, therefore, it would be helpful if I stated the Government's position about the new Clause. I could answer it extremely shortly in the three words, \"Not this year\". Of course, we have sympathy for the motives underlying the new Clause, but this is a year in which, as a result of the economic situation which we have inherited, my right hon. Friend the Chancellor has found it necessary—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1429.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1431.0", "colnum": "1431", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I am not out of date. The election was 1964. The Budget to which I am referring—1963—was intended to be a pre-election Budget.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1431.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1450.0", "colnum": "1450", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "realise is that the vast majority of taxpayers will never be liable at the 30 per cent. rate at all. Broadly speaking, particularly if the House accepts Amendments which we have put down for later consideration, it is the Surtax payer who will pay at 30 per cent. This is the point I was trying to make when we had our famous argument about \"MacDermot's Law\". I said that what was a fair rate of tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1450.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1470.3", "colnum": "1470", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Only.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman is trying to effect a so-called remedy by extending the area of public companies. The Chancellor will ask, as my hon. Friend the Member for Heywood and Royton (Mr. Barnett) very pertinently asked, what the right hon. Gentleman is complaining about. The right hon. Gentleman said, first, the direction Clause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1470.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1477.3", "colnum": "1477", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. d'Avigdor-Goldsmid", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. d'Avigdor-Goldsmid", "preceding_text": "ts them, but if he is a whole-time working director in his own business, he does not. This is not mere fancy. I am talking about banks, and banks make their name by being reliable and responsible, and the best guarantee of responsibility is that people know that the family's own money is in it. This is a real point, but this is something which is actively discouraged by the provisions of the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1477.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1483.1", "colnum": "1483", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "preceding_text": "his section of the Bill—as \"an ugly lobby of the tax avoiders\". I do not suppose that he used the word \"ugly\" in relation to my hon. Friends in a physical sense, because no one could conceivably apply that to my hon. Friend the Member for Wanstead and Woodford (Mr. Patrick Jenkin), and my hon. Friend the Member for Belfast, North (Mr. Stratton Mills), though possibly it could be applied to myself.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1483.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1495.0", "colnum": "1495", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Where are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "exactly the same position, within 2 per cent., of the total taxation that we had before. I appeal to the Chief Secretary to think about this again. If he will now say that when we reach Schedule 17 he will put back into the Bill the same provisions as we had with regard to the Surtax companies, I would be prepared to accept that and advise my right hon. and hon. Friends not to vote for the Clause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1495.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1518.0", "colnum": "1518", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "ween the widowed mother and the widower ought, perhaps, to be seen in this perspective. Treasury spokesmen always take up the difficulties in all these Clauses about making concessions which are not going to be fair to other people. I know that I should be out of order if I continued very long about this, but perhaps I will be permitted to say that in the debates on the 10s. widow, the 10s. widow—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1518.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1518.0", "colnum": "1518", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": " answer would be. It is a pity that the Treasury Minister does not know the answer himself, or perhaps he would say that he was too busy to get the Treasury officials to look into all these cases—and I am not a bit surprised. Having voiced my support of these Clauses, I want to deal with the absolutely monstrous attack that was made by the hon. Member for Manchester, Exchange (Mr. Will Griffiths).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1518.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1518.0", "colnum": "1518", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "ition. We on this side of the House, when in government, may not have gone quickly enough—and goodness knows, I have said that very often. Indeed, if my hon. Friend the Member for Finchley had been the Minister of Pensions and had had her way, we would have gone a bit further than we did. I want to accentuate the difference between the present Government and the Opposition. We never made promises—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1518.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1530.0", "colnum": "1530", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "preceding_text": " the early hours of the morning, I had a gang of some 60 members of the Government Party screaming abuse throughout my speech. Tonight, we have had one hon. Member shouting \"Rubbish\" at my hon. Friend the Member for Windsor (Sir C. Mott-Radclyffe), though the hon. Member did not see fit to rise to his feet. No doubt he will later. I am glad to support by hon. Friend on the new Clause he has moved.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1530.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1551.1", "colnum": "1551", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Resign.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": ", S.) Mackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen) Rowland, Christopher Woof, Robert Mahon, Peter (Preston, S.) Shore, Peter (Stepney) Yates, Victor (Ladywood) Mahon, Simon (Bootle) Short, Rt. Hn. E. (N'c'tle-on-Tyne, C.) Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.) Silkin, John (Deptford) TELLERS FOR THE NOES: Manuel, Archie Silverman, Julius (Aston) Mr. George Rogers and Mr. Fitch. Mapp, Charles Skeffington, Arthur", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1551.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1551.6", "colnum": "1551", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why not the Leader of the Opposition?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1551.5"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1551.9", "colnum": "1551", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is the Prime Minister?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. I think that I am being addressed on a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1551.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1551.11", "colnum": "1551", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Freeson", "preceding_text": "My point of order, Sir, is that I heard an hon. Member on the Opposition side using the word \"ratting\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1551.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1552.0", "colnum": "1552", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Freeson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Freeson", "preceding_text": "I wish to ask for your guidance, Sir, and perhaps I might have quiet while making my point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1552.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1552.0", "colnum": "1552", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Freeson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What language?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Freeson", "preceding_text": "I wish to ask for your guidance, Sir, and perhaps I might have quiet while making my point of order. [ Interruption. ] With the permission of the gentlemanly party opposite, I would like your guidance on whether it is correct to use that kind of language.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1552.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1552.1", "colnum": "1552", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is he?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Freeson", "preceding_text": "ile making my point of order. [ Interruption. ] With the permission of the gentlemanly party opposite, I would like your guidance on whether it is correct to use that kind of language. [HON. MEMBERS: \"What language?\"] I distinctly heard the remark thrown across the Chamber, not once, not twice, but three or four times, that hon. Members on this side, in particular the Prime Minister, were ratting.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1552.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.1", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "For a right hon. Gentleman who is claiming a great triumph, the right hon. Member for Bexley (Mr. Heath) seemed very grim in all that he has just said. There was not even a smile or a flicker of triumph across his face, so intense was his determination to enjoy the battle. He has won a great victory. Why does he not cheer up?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.1", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Resign.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr. James Callaghan)", "preceding_text": "e. We are quite ready to serve the House. If hon. Members do not want to go home, let us go on. There is no difficulty about that. The right hon. Gentleman seems to be enjoying himself now that he has sat down. I wish that he had enjoyed himself more when he stood up. I do not quite know what was the point of his intervention. Is he saying that he wants us to go on, or that he wants us to go home?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.3", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I am delighted to see the right hon. Member for Enfield, West (Mr. Iain Macleod) with us. There is at least one total abstainer in the House tonight. I am very glad indeed to have him here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.3", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Two\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " ] I do not know whether it is possible to make a connected speech when the Conservative Party are in this mood, but as far as I am concerned, I am in possession of the Dispatch Box and I am quite happy to remain in possession of it, certainly for the time it takes to quieten hon. Members opposite, so that we can decide what to do. The Opposition have, after a succession of over 90, won a victory—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.3", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "f over 90, won a victory—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Two\".] I beg their pardon; they have won two victories. The score is now 93 to 2. That is not a bad tally. If the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Bexley and his right hon. and hon. Friends wish to continue with the debate on the Bill, then we will do so for so long as they like. If they wish to carry on, then we on this side will be very happy to do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-06", "file": "debates1965-07-06a.xml", "sha256": "b8e3d9148765f6c0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.3", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "hey wish to carry on, then we on this side will be very happy to do so. [ Interruption. ] All hon. Members opposite seem to want to do is to score a false stratagem. They have got their victory, and now we can proceed with the Bill. There is much more to discuss, and much to debate, and as the right hon. Gentleman does not appear to wish to go home, then I suggest that we continue with the debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-06a.1554.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1568.1", "colnum": "1568", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "ly, which adds very little to the sum of existing knowledge, is not particularly helpful? Is he aware, further, that the Government's policies have added some £30 million to the costs of the farming industry? Against this background, does he recognise that the great majority of farmers will have been delighted to read of the results of the voting in the House of Commons last night and cannot wait—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1568.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1574.2", "colnum": "1574", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member is quite right to draw my attention to a statement of policy which was made not long ago by my hon. Friends. I accept that. I also look back to another policy statement. I have here the Agricultural Charter of the Conservative Party of 1948.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1574.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1576.5", "colnum": "1576", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jopling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jopling", "preceding_text": "imal breeding? Is he aware that of the two organisations which he says give him most advice on population genetics the senior member of one has been highly critical of the bull licensing scheme? Secondly, is he aware that a member of the other, the director of the Animal Breeding Research Association, says that all bull licensing is make-believe and that its contribution to genetics is negligible?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1576.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1578.2", "colnum": "1578", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mills", "preceding_text": "Will the right hon. Gentleman bear in mind that there is another side to this coin? Is he aware that four or five years ago, particularly in the South-West, rents were so low that landlords could not carry out the improvements which the tenants demanded?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1578.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1586.5", "colnum": "1586", "heading": "R.A.F. AIRCRAFT (ACCIDENT, THE BALDONS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "preceding_text": "ntrol difficulties and the aircraft was returning to the airfield. All six Royal Air Force members of the crew and the 35 passengers of the Army and Royal Air Force lost their lives. Two were members of the Territorial Army undergoing training. A board of inquiry has been convened and assembled this morning. I know that the House will join with me in expressing our deep sympathy with the bereaved.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1586.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1667.0", "colnum": "1667", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barnett", "preceding_text": "One can give all sorts of reasons now why a particular personal allowance is given.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1667.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1671.0", "colnum": "1671", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Price", "preceding_text": "d be a gain of £3,930, which works out at a tax of £1,179, leaving £3,751. If that were scaled down with the depreciating value of money according to the Treasury Index, we find that in 1914 terms the person would be left not with £1,000 but with £761. That is an element of capital levy of somewhere between 23 per cent. and 24 per cent. over 50 years I hope that that simple illustration will show—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1671.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1675.1", "colnum": "1675", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "e used to hearing from hon. Members opposite the illustration of the widow in support of their arguments. They naturally do not support their arguments by deploying the case of the property dealer, for example, who would be the chief beneficiary from an exemption of this kind. If the concern of hon. Members opposite is with the widow, I must point out that their Amendment would not help the widow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1675.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1698.1", "colnum": "1698", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "n to understand that if one man who sells his assets can get £9,000 and is taxed and his neighbour has the good fortune to have a fire for which he is insured and pays no tax on the insurance policy, the gentleman who pays tax will suffer a paroxysm of envy at the man who had his house burned down or burgled. This is not an argument for introducing this tax. I do not want to take too long on this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1698.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1703.1", "colnum": "1703", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "hen he says, \"But the gain the man has made there is not a realisation of his asset but the realisation of the premiums which he has paid—and you do not even propose to allow under the Bill the payment of those premiums in some way to be set off against the gain\". Certainly not. The reason is that the premiums are a payment made by way of maintenance of his asset or maintenance of the value of it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1703.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1725.5", "colnum": "1725", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Eric Fletcher", "preceding_text": "I think that it would be convenient if we considered together Amendments Nos. 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51 and 52.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1725.4"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1739.3", "colnum": "1739", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "An. HON. MEMBER: \"Do not spoil it\".", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "e which I then moved. I apologise to the hon. and learned Gentleman for not being here earlier when he moved the other Amendment. I was attending a conference under the chairmanship of Mr. Speaker. If I could have been present, I should have been glad to pay my tribute then. I am very grateful for what has been done. This is a small cloud of wisdom coming into the Government's handling of affairs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1739.3"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1749.5", "colnum": "1749", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. There is only room in the House for one Chairman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1749.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1749.8", "colnum": "1749", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "If I may have leave of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1749.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1749.10", "colnum": "1749", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "I only want one minute—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1749.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1758.0", "colnum": "1758", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"So he is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I always thought that hon. Members opposite had a tendency to a somewhat feudal outlook, but I see that on this occasion they have gone even further and have got the slave mentality. They seem to think that a footballer is the property of the football club.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1758.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1768.1", "colnum": "1768", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Mitchell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Mitchell", "preceding_text": " see that the skill required is very different. I should have thought that in as much as the Financial Secretary accepts that husbandry is a profession, whatever part it takes, equally one should accept that a shopkeeper is a shopkeeper whether he is selling grocery, shoes or whatever it may be. I know that the Chancellor would wish his Bill to have a large measure of logic and common sense in it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1768.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1769.0", "colnum": "1769", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Mitchell", "preceding_text": "be. I know that the Chancellor would wish his Bill to have a large measure of logic and common sense in it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I ask him simply, where is the logic and common sense about this? How does he justify the following? A market gardener who grows and sells vegetables can become a pig farmer, but a greengrocer who sells vegetables cannot become a pork butcher. What is the logic in that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1768.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1769.1", "colnum": "1769", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "Will the hon. Gentleman give way? I am being asked to answer. His hypothesis is wrong—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1769.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-07", "file": "debates1965-07-07a.xml", "sha256": "bbdb41ba3b353570", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1782.3", "colnum": "1782", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. John Mackie)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. John Mackie)", "preceding_text": "n this, the position of the small farmer and the farm worker. He made statements, which I doubt if he could prove, that incomes have been cut. All the figures that we have—and they have never been questioned—show that in 1964–65 incomes in agriculture were at an all-time high. The hon. Gentleman must not make statements like that unless he can prove them. In fact, incomes have not been cut.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-07a.1782.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1803.7", "colnum": "1803", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gower", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gower", "preceding_text": "Is it not somewhat absurd that air-raid shelters designed for use in the conditions of the last world war, in 1939, should be retained in circumstances which are deplored by all the local residents, when the shelters are most insanitary, when they are the sort of buildings which attract youngsters in the most undesirable circumstances—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1803.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1804.0", "colnum": "1804", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "I take the hon. Gentleman's word for what may happen at these shelters, but he ought to be aware, as I am aware—we both know these shelters—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1804.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1805.2", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why not?", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "The Commissioner of Police informs me that no special records are kept by the Metropolitan Police of persons because of their activities in the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1805.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1805.6", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lagden", "preceding_text": "But would the Home Secretary consider, in the interests of security, immediately asking for such particulars to be kept?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1805.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1808.1", "colnum": "1808", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emrys Hughes", "preceding_text": "Is the Prime Minister aware that there is an important difference in that, although the ex-Prime Minister was a member of the National Farmers' Union, nobody ever dreamed of making him the general secretary?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1808.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1809.0", "colnum": "1809", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": "inister has told us that the right hon. Gentleman in question has no executive duties; has he any duties in connection with the union? If so, people would feel that that was undesirable. However, if it is merely to establish his right to return to the office, that is no different from the numerous people who return from Government to the numerous directorships which they held before taking office.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1809.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1809.9", "colnum": "1809", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I am not sure whether the hon. Gentleman is referring to the events of 36 hours ago. On those I would simply say that if the Opposition Whips, when they wake up—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1809.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1810.2", "colnum": "1810", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "If the Opposition Whips want to play cops and robbers in the middle of the night, I do not want to spoil their fun, as long as they do not think that it has any constitutional or political significance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1810.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.2", "colnum": "1811", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "In view of the undisputed fact—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.7", "colnum": "1811", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "As the vast majority of people in this country, irrespective of party, want to see a drastic reduction in the number of immigrants into this country, because of the tremendous—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.7", "colnum": "1811", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "As the vast majority of people in this country, irrespective of party, want to see a drastic reduction in the number of immigrants into this country, because of the tremendous—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"]—because of the tremendous—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.9", "colnum": "1811", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I was prefacing my question—because of the tremendous social problems affecting the working-class people of this country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.9", "colnum": "1811", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "I was prefacing my question—because of the tremendous social problems affecting the working-class people of this country—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—will he not—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1811.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1817.2", "colnum": "1817", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Should there be any question of my wanting lessons in appeasement, I know who to go to.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1817.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1818.4", "colnum": "1818", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I thought that the House probably did not want to bother. It was obvious that the Prime Minister was not bothering. As to the previous occasion, that was my warning. I had so many versions in the end of what was supposed to have been said that I did not know what it was. I do not wish to repeat that. If the House desires me to pursue the matter. I shall ask the hon. Member.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1818.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1818.6", "colnum": "1818", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "He did.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Birch", "preceding_text": "I said quite a number of things, Mr. Speaker. I do not think that I actually used the word \"swine\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1818.5"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1819.7", "colnum": "1819", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Further to the point of order, Mr. Speaker. The issue we are discussing, the situation in Vietnam, is far more important than anything that the right hon. Gentleman may have said. I am sure that it would help you, Mr. Speaker, and the whole House if we could begin to adopt rules under which it will be clear that insults from certain hon. Members are compliments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1819.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1822.0", "colnum": "1822", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Everyone on this side of the House will rejoice in the wisdom of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. I am disturbed and alarmed at some of the excuses that right hon. and hon. Members opposite are rendering.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1822.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1822.0", "colnum": "1822", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. David Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Griffiths", "preceding_text": " in the wisdom of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. I am disturbed and alarmed at some of the excuses that right hon. and hon. Members opposite are rendering. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"] Is my right hon. Friend aware that it was my good fortune to be chosen with my hon. Friend the Member for Leek (Mr. Harold Davies) on behalf of the first mission that went to the South-East Asian Continent?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1822.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1822.2", "colnum": "1822", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Sir R. Thompson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir R. Thompson", "preceding_text": "Is the Prime Minister aware it is because we are seized of the deadly earnestness and urgency of the situation that we doubt the propriety of sending this particular hon. Member?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1822.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1826.3", "colnum": "1826", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "I do not think that the right hon. Gentleman is quite correct. I seem to recall that in 1955 the Government of the day lost the whole Bill and that it had to be restored next day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1826.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1826.3", "colnum": "1826", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "I do not think that the right hon. Gentleman is quite correct. I seem to recall that in 1955 the Government of the day lost the whole Bill and that it had to be restored next day. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] On the question of what happened on the Report stage of the Bill the other night, the Clause was added to the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1826.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1828.5", "colnum": "1828", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "Will my right hon. Friend find time for early debates on unit trusts and their relation to business in this House, having in mind recent Press reports—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1828.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1905.0", "colnum": "1905", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "ot be as wide as the kind of provisions we find in Clause 31. I must make that quite clear. I sometimes feel that I should put wax in my ears when my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Cheetham (Mr. Harold Lever) is speaking because the temptation to be drawn on to the rocks by the carefully thought out examples upon which he entices me to try to comment are such that Ministers ought to avoid.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1905.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1956.0", "colnum": "1956", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Part II", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Roots", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Roots", "preceding_text": "ing to do with him. It may be a sale which occurred previously. It may be that the Revenue needs to inspect a picture, but I suggest that the word \"reasonable\" is extremely important. The Bill as it stands contains an authorisation to inspect: at such reasonable times as the Board may consider necessary. If one is to fine a man, the question of reasonableness should not be reserved to the Revenue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1956.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-08", "file": "debates1965-07-08a.xml", "sha256": "46b08f413486d163", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1958.1", "colnum": "1958", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Part II", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I will try, in a few words, to comment on the few words on the Notice Paper—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-08a.1958.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1985.6", "colnum": "1985", "heading": "PRISONERS, WANDSWORTH (ESCAPE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sharples", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sharples", "preceding_text": "May I raise a point of order, Mr. Speaker, of which I regret I have not been able to give you previous notice owing to the time? Last night I put a Private Notice Question to the Home Secretary about a matter which I think is known to the House. This Question, as I understand, has been blocked by the device of putting down a Question for Written Answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1985.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1990.6", "colnum": "1990", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman must make it quite plain that he is not seeking to cast any reflection upon the impartiality of the Chair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1990.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1991.1", "colnum": "1991", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Yates", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order—I had not completed my point of order, may I ask whether it is within the rules of the House for us to move the Adjournment of the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1991.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1991.5", "colnum": "1991", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTION", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "On a Friday?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman does not have power to move that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1991.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1991.7", "colnum": "1991", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General (Sir Elwyn Jones)", "preceding_text": "Enfield, West (Mr. Iain Macleod) made what to hon. Members on this side seemed to be a direct reflection upon the impartiality of the Chair. You, Mr. Speaker, invited the right hon. Gentleman to consider the position he had created by reason of that grossly unparliamentary misconduct and invited him to withdraw. I now invite him to consider his position and the dignity and protection of the Chair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1991.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1994.5", "colnum": "1994", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Let us get on with it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Palmer", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. What exactly is the business before the House at the moment?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1994.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1995.5", "colnum": "1995", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "I am sorry to intervene again, Mr. Speaker, but as we now have the Leader of the House with us, may I point out to him the strong desire expressed by the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1995.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1995.5", "colnum": "1995", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "I am sorry to intervene again, Mr. Speaker, but as we now have the Leader of the House with us, may I point out to him the strong desire expressed by the House—[ Interruption ]—for some form of statement by the Prime Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1995.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1995.6", "colnum": "1995", "heading": "PRIVATE NOTICE QUESTION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "I am sorry to intervene again, Mr. Speaker, but as we now have the Leader of the House with us, may I point out to him the strong desire expressed by the House—[ Interruption ]—for some form of statement by the Prime Minister—[ Interruption ]—and ask whether he will convey this desire urgently to the Prime Minister?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.1995.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-09", "file": "debates1965-07-09a.xml", "sha256": "f9d9d004a406dd9e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.2078.9", "colnum": "2078", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Order for Second Reading read.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-09a.2078.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.7.7", "colnum": "7", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Alfred Morris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ask a question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Alfred Morris", "preceding_text": "I am sure that my hon. Friend would agree that the cost of smokeless fuels in smokeless zones is causing very serious hardship among elderly people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.7.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.7.7", "colnum": "7", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Alfred Morris", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Alfred Morris", "preceding_text": "I am sure that my hon. Friend would agree that the cost of smokeless fuels in smokeless zones is causing very serious hardship among elderly people. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Ask a question.\"] I speak with some feeling about this, representing a constituency—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.7.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.8.1", "colnum": "8", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Morris", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Morris", "preceding_text": "I would say this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.8.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.21.7", "colnum": "21", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Will Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Will Griffiths", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that most of us appreciate that the comprehensive review which is being undertaken by the Government will take a considerable—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.21.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.27.3", "colnum": "27", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PENSIONS AND NATIONAL INSURANCE", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON MEMBERS: \"Speak up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "In view of the unsatisfactory reply, may I ask the right hon. Lady whether—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.27.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.29.2", "colnum": "29", "heading": "PRISONERS, WANDSWORTH (ESCAPE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. and learned Friend aware that one of the difficulties in this kind of case is that the overwhelming majority of the people find themselves sympathising with the men who have escaped—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.29.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.31.6", "colnum": "31", "heading": "AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT, LYMPNE AIRPORT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Aviation (Mr. Roy Jenkins)", "preceding_text": "urned, but, fortunately, none of the 48 passengers and three crew was seriously injured. Officers of my accident inspectorate are now carrying out an investigation, and I am sure the House would not expect me to say anything which might prejudge the result of it. I am equally sure the House will join with me in expressing sympathy to those concerned in what must have been a most alarming incident.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.31.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.36.1", "colnum": "36", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman was really trying to impart any suggestion in his choice of words. If so, I hope that he will have the guts to make plain what he was saying.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.36.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.37.1", "colnum": "37", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "There has been some difficulty in communication with Hanoi—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.37.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.38.2", "colnum": "38", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "So far from making party capital about this, as it has been suggested—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.38.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.46.0", "colnum": "46", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "n all decency, Her Majesty's Government should think twice before insisting on this occasion on that imposition, which failed to get a majority on a Division, being acted upon and made continuous by the act of the House today. It seems to me that must be improper. We have been engaged in various ballets and other celebrations because of Sir Simon de Montfort, 750 years ago, because of Magna Carta—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.46.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.46.0", "colnum": "46", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "nk twice before insisting on this occasion on that imposition, which failed to get a majority on a Division, being acted upon and made continuous by the act of the House today. It seems to me that must be improper. We have been engaged in various ballets and other celebrations because of Sir Simon de Montfort, 750 years ago, because of Magna Carta—[ Interruption. ] Simon de Montfort, rather longer", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.46.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.46.0", "colnum": "46", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"700.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "sisting on this occasion on that imposition, which failed to get a majority on a Division, being acted upon and made continuous by the act of the House today. It seems to me that must be improper. We have been engaged in various ballets and other celebrations because of Sir Simon de Montfort, 750 years ago, because of Magna Carta—[ Interruption. ] Simon de Montfort, rather longer [ Interruption. ]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.46.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.58.0", "colnum": "58", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. John Diamond)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. John Diamond)", "preceding_text": "If the Amendment were accepted, Clause 42 would read: For the financial years 1965 and 1966 there shall be charged on profits of companies a tax, to be called corporation tax… I would not have thought from listening to any single one of the speeches in this debate that that was in the mind of anyone. Every speech has been directed to destroying the theory of Corporation Tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.58.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.60.4", "colnum": "60", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": " discussion, wish me to rehearse the matter again at length. As the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Liberal Party pointed out, we have had all the arguments before. The hon. Member for Scarborough and Whitby (Sir A. Spearman) spoke of this as being a major upheaval. This is what the argument is about, of course. It is about change and about unwillingness to accept change. That is all it is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.60.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.61.1", "colnum": "61", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": " in reply is this, following what the right hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale said in opening the debate, that never was the country or the city—I am not sure which it was—in a position of worse uncertainty, but all the Amendment would do would be to prolong the uncertainty for a further year. It is ridiculous to suggest that that should be done. There has been ample time for full consideration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.61.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.76.2", "colnum": "76", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "preceding_text": " in these terms about concessions and privileges. I find objectionable this bureaucratic belief that the convenience of the Treasury and the Inland Revenue is identical with the national interest. I now return to the gloom and despondency into which the Chief Secretary's answer has thrust me. I do not believe that this is a point of sufficient stature to warrant advising my hon. Friends to divide.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.76.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.87.1", "colnum": "87", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "I am sorry to interrupt my hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.87.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.154.3", "colnum": "154", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "are capital as minimum standard dividends to be assumed under the Clause. The hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock) drew our attention to the effect that this might have in a particular case, and we are very glad therefore to bring forward this Amendment to restore the original position because otherwise it might, in that case, not have been as helpful as it was the Government's intention to be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.154.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.209.2", "colnum": "209", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir L. Heald", "preceding_text": "My answer is \"Intelligent anticipation by the right hon. Gentleman\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.209.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.225.1", "colnum": "225", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Diamond", "preceding_text": " to, or acquired or held by, the public if they are allotted to, or acquired or held by— ( a ) any director or associate of a director of the company; or ( b ) any company which is under the control of any such director or associate or of two or more persons each of whom is such a director or associate; or ( c ) any associated company of the company. In this sub-paragraph \"share\" includes \"stock\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.225.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.226.0", "colnum": "226", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "rom a phychological point of view. I accept broadly the essential content of what the right hon. Gentleman said when he wound up the debate the other day on this topic. We have had a number of speeches. I hope the House will forgive me if I say that I noticed that each hon. Member who spoke from the back benches gave a different reason for objecting, showing that none of them had the right reason.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.226.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.233.1", "colnum": "233", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "preceding_text": "e with the definition of an associate in relation to a participator, and paragraph 5 of the Schedule lists a number of people, persons and situations which fall within the definition. One of them is where the participator is interested in any shares or obligations of the company which are subject to a trust, for example. I quite follow that it is necessary to have broadly a provision of this kind—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.233.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.233.1", "colnum": "233", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. van Straubenzee", "preceding_text": "of them is where the participator is interested in any shares or obligations of the company which are subject to a trust, for example. I quite follow that it is necessary to have broadly a provision of this kind—[ Interruption. ] I wonder whether I might have your assistance, Mr. Speaker. It is difficult to make the argument when there is noise. I am grateful to the Chief Secretary for helping me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.233.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.234.3", "colnum": "234", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where are they?", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. It may be that the Government side of the House have lost interest in the Bill, but many of my hon. Friends are still interested in it and would like to be able to hear the debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.234.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.236.2", "colnum": "236", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "preceding_text": "progressive companies and join the large enterprises, where they may obtain higher salaries but perhaps no great share in those companies. The provision as drafted could have a serious long-term effect on business in Britain. I think that it was Napoleon who said that Britain was a nation of shopkeepers. If he were alive today he might well say that we are a nation of directors of small companies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.236.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.237.0", "colnum": "237", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"One.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "ty of allowing a certain amount of tax avoidance, as has been said from time to time. That is the net effect of this proposal to increase from 5 per cent. to 10 per cent. the shareholding of an individual whose salary could escape the Corporation Tax and who could escape Income Tax which would not otherwise be paid if we did not treat is as a distribution. That is the effect of the two Amendments—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.237.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-12", "file": "debates1965-07-12a.xml", "sha256": "b66f7dabf2da893f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.239.1", "colnum": "239", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "Amendment negatived.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-12a.239.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.273.4", "colnum": "273", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ot looked this up myself, but I think he will find that on 30th November, 1951, which is more than 10 years ago, I had already declared such interest as I had. Although I had no financial interest he will find that that occurred as soon as I was appointed to a minor position in the timber industry. It was announced publicly. It was also announced when I gave it up and I announced it in this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.273.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.279.1", "colnum": "279", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COAL", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The White Paper, when it is finalised, will certainly take full account of Lord Mountbatten's Report and of his recommendations, though in the last resort it is for the Goverment to take responsibility. My predecessor as Leader of the Labour Party in Opposition made plain when we voted against the Act that what we were voting against was, first, the degree of colour prejudice in it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.279.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.287.0", "colnum": "287", "heading": "SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL (MEMORIAL)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "I know, that suitable arrangements be made to perpetuate his memory within the Palace of Westminster. Accordingly, the House in Committee will shortly be invited to agree to an Address to Her Majesty to give directions for a tribute at public expense. And, in accordance with precedents, a Committee, including Members of all parties, will be appointed to advise on the form this tribute should take.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.286.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.288.2", "colnum": "288", "heading": "PRIVATE STREET WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Terence Boston", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Terence Boston", "preceding_text": " plain that the words in the Motion refer not to the problems of the pavement artist or roadside art exhibitions, but to a problem which presents a far worse picture—the problem of unmade roads. A Ministry of Housing and Local Government survey in 1960 estimated that there are 54,000 unmade roads, affecting perhaps 3 million people. These roads are not just a nuisance. They cause very real misery—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.288.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.291.6", "colnum": "291", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Neil Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Neil Marten", "preceding_text": "ympathetic to the C.N.D. These hon. Members could clearly be quite a pressure group inside the Labour Party, acting upon the Government. This is why I feel that the situation has changed since the last election and why I thought it right that we should take this opportunity to air this subject, in a very friendly way. I do not wish to attack anyone, I want to look at this subject very objectively—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.291.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.293.2", "colnum": "293", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": " voters who join protest marchers and carry banners, Harold Wilson is sneering at democracy\". The Prime Minister and I obviously see democracy in different lights. I may, during this debate, mention one or two Members of Parliament. When one proposes to do so, it is customary to write and tell them in advance. I have written to the Minister of Technology, because I certainly intend to mention him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.293.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.294.1", "colnum": "294", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It may be more.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "hen they catch your eye, Mr. Speaker, perhaps they will be able to clear up the matter. Having discussed the policy, I should like to go on to discuss the influance of C.N.D. in the Labour Party and in the Government. Before I discuss the policy, may I say that I calculate that about 15 per cent. of the Government has been, or is, connected with C.N.D. I do not know whether they have renounced it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.294.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.295.3", "colnum": "295", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "n)—predictably—Penistone (Mr. Mendelson), Poplar (Mr. Mikardo), Liverpool, Walton (Mr. Heffer), Putney (Mr. Hugh Jenkins)—he is here, too—and Manchester, Gorton (Mr. Zilliacus)—he is here, too. It is quite a long Motion, as one might expect, but, basically, it said that the Government should publicly and unequivocally declare that they are unable to support the United States in the Vietnamese war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.295.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.296.0", "colnum": "296", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is he?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "t to United States policy in Vietnam in spite of a battery of Questions and comments, Motions and marches, because I believe that he wants peace, like we want peace. We all want peace, but peace is not a monopoly of C.N.D. Surely the Foreign Secretary knows better than anyone in the Labour Party how difficult are these sorts of peace negotiations. My right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.295.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.297.4", "colnum": "297", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "lth Prime Ministers would meet. He said himself that this war was likely to escalate. Yet suddenly he plucked this proposal out of the air which had had very little preparation. It is a very fine project in many ways, but what I criticise it for is its timing. The timing was wrong because the proposal had not been prepared. Why was the timing wrong? This is where I come to the terms of the Motion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.297.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.300.10", "colnum": "300", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. I am not attacking the hon. Gentleman. I am explaining to the House his factual background. If hon. Members do not like it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.300.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.301.3", "colnum": "301", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "in. The Transport and General Workers' Union is bound to raise it there. Then there will be the Labour Party conference, where the rank and file of the party are bound to be very noisy about Vietnam and the Prime Minister has got to be seen to have done something about it, and it is that, I think, which has dominated his actions in this respect over Vietnam. What we all want, of course, is peace.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.301.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.302.1", "colnum": "302", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "The Paymaster-General (Mr. George Wigg)", "preceding_text": "Does the hon. Gentleman want the truth?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.302.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.303.0", "colnum": "303", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "I am not speaking for these benches.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.303.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.304.3", "colnum": "304", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Reynolds", "preceding_text": "Will the hon. Member allow me on this point—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.304.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.304.6", "colnum": "304", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Out of order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "chnology is the General Secretary, and the Transport and General Workers' Union has backed the C.N.D. I hope, therefore, that I am still in order. Last week, the union passed two resolutions, one quite simply urging the Government to dissociate themselves from United States policy in Vietnam—that is the C.N.D. line—and the other opposing the Government's incomes policy. Both are directly contrary—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.304.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.309.4", "colnum": "309", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "ve here a book by Sir Ivor Jennings, called \"Cabinet Government\". On page 281, Sir Ivor says: Cabinet Ministers are expected not merely not to oppose a Cabinet decision, but also to support it. On page 277, he says: A Minister who is not prepared to defend a Cabinet decision must, therefore, resign. I am talking about the Minister of Technology because, on Saturday, I opened my copy of The Times —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.309.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.309.4", "colnum": "309", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "Vietnam and the incomes policy. Whatever legalistic little wriggle the right hon. Gentleman tries to use or his hon. Friends try to use to dodge out of it, we all know that he was, in fact, referring to both those issues, and, of course, he was endorsing what his union had said. He was not backing up his own Government, according to constitutional history, and I therefore call for his resignation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.309.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.309.4", "colnum": "309", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "e wriggle the right hon. Gentleman tries to use or his hon. Friends try to use to dodge out of it, we all know that he was, in fact, referring to both those issues, and, of course, he was endorsing what his union had said. He was not backing up his own Government, according to constitutional history, and I therefore call for his resignation. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I am not criticising the Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.309.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.321.1", "colnum": "321", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "preceding_text": "I am not a member and I have no intention of belonging to the Anti-Apartheid Movement.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.321.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.322.0", "colnum": "322", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "preceding_text": "o be militarily committed on the side of America whatever happened in Cuba. In 1963, she said: We must cease forthwith the attempt to remain an independent nuclear power. We should seek to ensure that N.A.T.O. itself is not dependent on nuclear stategy. This would involve the abandonment of any attempt to create a European nuclear deterrent in any form and the removal of American bases in Britain.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.321.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.322.3", "colnum": "322", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "preceding_text": "I shall be delighted to to explain. The hon. Gentleman is not showing his customary patience and restraint. I have already said that I believe the cancellation of the TSR2 was a direct result of the influence of C.N.D.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.322.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.325.1", "colnum": "325", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "preceding_text": " see anyone who is displaying his badge. The advice which we should give to hon. Members who support the C.N.D. and to members of the Cabinet who support the C.N.D. is, \"Wear your badge; fly your colours; let us see you. What are you afraid of? Are you afraid that you are wrong? Are you afraid that you have an influence which you would lose if your colours were truly known?\" That is the challenge.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.325.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.327.1", "colnum": "327", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edelman", "preceding_text": " all sorts of people to use the technique of the attribution of guilt of all kinds to hon. Members. It is a characteristic of this honourable House not to conduct its debates in this way. I profoundly regret that on this occasion the debate should have been initiated in this form. I tell the hon. Member not only was he prepared to deliver this attack against hon. Members on this side of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.327.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.328.0", "colnum": "328", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Captain Walter Elliot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It did not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Captain Walter Elliot", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member has accused my hon. Friend of using the technique of McCarthyism. As I understand it, McCarthyism dealt with Communism.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.328.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.328.5", "colnum": "328", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No. You spoke for an hour.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.328.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.335.1", "colnum": "335", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "preceding_text": " be highly relevant because the British people as a whole have been led to believe that the present Administration have given up their connections with the C.N.D. This impression was given in the Labour Party's manifesto and in the statements of senior members of the Government. In so far as the Government have severed their affiliations with the C.N.D., I am extremely glad that they have done so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.335.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.337.2", "colnum": "337", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "I will not give way just yet.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.337.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.340.4", "colnum": "340", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Leek is conducting a major—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.340.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.341.4", "colnum": "341", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "May I make clear to you, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, that I do not attack the hon. Member for Leek?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.341.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.342.0", "colnum": "342", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Anne Kerr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Anne Kerr", "preceding_text": "Has it occurred to the hon. Member that they may well be using their influence within the Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.342.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.344.1", "colnum": "344", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "The Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Army (Mr. G. W. Reynolds)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Army (Mr. G. W. Reynolds)", "preceding_text": " St. Edmunds (Mr. Eldon Griffiths) started his speech in a very reasonable manner. Unfortunately, as he went along he descended to a lower and lower level of sneer and abuse against my hon. and right hon. Friends inside the Government and on the back benches of this side of the House. In the way in which he put his final questions I shall treat them, I will ignore them for the rest of this speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.344.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.348.1", "colnum": "348", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Reynolds", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Reynolds", "preceding_text": "mmonwealth Mission and the sending of my hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance to Vietnam, not in themselves, but just on timing. So the hon. Gentleman's criticism of this Mission is not the decision itself. He is merely criticising the timing, which apparently C.N.D. has had an influence over in some way which I have not yet been able to—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.348.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.351.0", "colnum": "351", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman must recognise that if these speeches are read—I do not know whether he has read them, or whether extracts have been given to him by his staff—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.351.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.351.0", "colnum": "351", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman must recognise that if these speeches are read—I do not know whether he has read them, or whether extracts have been given to him by his staff—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"] I am answering. The hon. Gentleman must recognise that in debates one thinks aloud—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.351.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.351.3", "colnum": "351", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "Surely the essence of debate is that we are thinking aloud.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.351.3"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.356.7", "colnum": "356", "heading": "CAMPAIGN FOR NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.356.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.379.2", "colnum": "379", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Nelson and Colne has suggested that we should take with this Amendment the Amendment in the name of the hon. Member for Oxford (Mr. Woodhouse), in page 1, line 7, at the end to insert: Such a sentence shall be of indefinite duration subject only to the prerogative of mercy. I am in some difficulty, because the hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.379.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.395.2", "colnum": "395", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crowder", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crowder", "preceding_text": "that man, although he has been scrutinised by every doctor concerned, goes beserk again and commits another murder. Just think what effect that will have in the country and in the House. These are the sort of considerations which will apply to every Home Secretary from either side of the House in future. Hon. Members who know the Civil Service and Government Departments should know that very well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.395.2"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.412.1", "colnum": "412", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "preceding_text": "principal deterrents and one of the most potent barriers against the dangerous criminals under whom we have to suffer today. One could not imagine a more inappropriate week in which we should have the Third Reading of the Bill, a week in which Wandsworth Prison was sprung by a dangerous gang and some of the most dangerous criminals were released, and a week in which there was another bank robbery—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.412.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.413.2", "colnum": "413", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why bring them in?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "preceding_text": "That is a futile question. They never committed murder, and we are discussing penalties for murder.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.413.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.424.1", "colnum": "424", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"For crimes in war-time.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "preceding_text": "ment in opening this debate which is very much on a par with a number of his other statements in a way which demonstrates to us his arrogance in his conduct of this Bill. He told us that no one had been executed in peace time except for murder for many years. I wonder if he contends that \"Lord Haw-Haw\" and other traitors were executed for murder. They were executed long after the war had finished—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.424.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.424.3", "colnum": "424", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"So what?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Richard Glyn", "preceding_text": "orious murderers for years. The hon. and learned Gentleman should know, and perhaps does, that the most notorious of the Chicago murderers—Al Capone—who was involved in literally hundreds of murders, was never convicted of murder and was tried only once on that charge and acquitted. He was eventually imprisoned, after many years, not for any offence of violence, but only for not paying income tax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.424.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.430.1", "colnum": "430", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There will be some more.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hooson", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that point, but it was done because they had hired people to do it. There are people who are willing to be hired for large sums; and this was a calculated crime of an exceptional kind in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.430.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.431.1", "colnum": "431", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. James Dance", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why should he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. James Dance", "preceding_text": "s brought forward at a moment when crimes of violence are very much on the increase. It is dangerous because it endangers every member of the public, as I shall show. But more than the Bill itself I dislike the way it has been introduced and put before us. The House has been taken in contempt. I wish that the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Sydney Silverman) would listen to what I am saying.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.431.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.431.5", "colnum": "431", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "The Liberals may have done, but the Government side—I know this for a fact—certainly have not. They have had a two-line whip on it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.431.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.432.6", "colnum": "432", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not a point of order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. I have in my hand a note circulated to all Members of the Government party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.432.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.432.6", "colnum": "432", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. I have in my hand a note circulated to all Members of the Government party. [An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not a point of order.\"] It is a point of order, in the interests of accuracy, against an accusation made by someone who, I suggest, does not know what he is talking about. It says—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.432.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.433.0", "colnum": "433", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harris", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman for Dudley (Mr. Wigg). He knows he called me a liar.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.433.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.434.10", "colnum": "434", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "In that case, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, I replace the word \"lie\" with \"terminological inexactitude\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.434.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.434.11", "colnum": "434", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. Can I have no further protection from the Chair?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.434.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.435.1", "colnum": "435", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "Following on this rather interesting little discussion that we have had, I think that there may be two versions of the whipping—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.435.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.435.5", "colnum": "435", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frederic Harris", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy-Speaker. As I understand it, the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Sydney Silverman) is still assuming that what I said was incorrect. It does not look as though I am being very fairly treated. I have been in the House long enough to be more fairly treated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.435.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.436.0", "colnum": "436", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "I have been a Member of the House for a comparatively short time, but during the 10 years that I have been here I do not think I have ever been approached by more members of the Government to pair with me than I have over this debate, which to my mind proves that there must be some sort of whip.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.436.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.436.0", "colnum": "436", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": " I have been here I do not think I have ever been approached by more members of the Government to pair with me than I have over this debate, which to my mind proves that there must be some sort of whip. [ Interruption. ] Anyhow, if I am completely inaccurate I am sorry, but I have shown that there seems to have been some coercion put on hon. Members on the other side of the House over this matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.436.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.436.4", "colnum": "436", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "The fact remains that I gather that much more coercion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.436.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.437.2", "colnum": "437", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "lly foggy, murky night, unarmed, to apprehend an armed criminal, knowing that he had not the protection of the death penalty above him? The hon. Member does not appear to answer. But that is what he is asking the police to do. Does he want them to be armed? I know that the general public do not and that the police do not. If he does not answer my question presumably that is what he wants, however.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.437.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.437.2", "colnum": "437", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "ember does not appear to answer. But that is what he is asking the police to do. Does he want them to be armed? I know that the general public do not and that the police do not. If he does not answer my question presumably that is what he wants, however. [ Interruption. ] I am attacking the hon. Member and I intend to go on attacking him. Many hon. Members on this side are getting extremely tired—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.437.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.437.2", "colnum": "437", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He was not murdered.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": " Finance Bill—of the attitude whereby the criminal is always being defended. \"Oh, we must look after him.\" What about the unfortunate victim? A friend of mine who was driving along quite innocently opened the window and asked someone the direction. He was coshed and he did not become conscious until a month later and he is now paralysed for life. Ought we not to pay a little more attention to him?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.437.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.437.2", "colnum": "437", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "t become conscious until a month later and he is now paralysed for life. Ought we not to pay a little more attention to him? [HON. MEMBERS: \"He was not murdered.\"] But he might well have been murdered. I deplore the attitude of hon. Members opposite and those on the Liberal Benches, the attitude that the criminal must always be thought about and must be cared for and that the victim means nothing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.437.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-13", "file": "debates1965-07-13a.xml", "sha256": "acea3325ed276732", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.455.1", "colnum": "455", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir G. de Freitas", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir G. de Freitas", "preceding_text": "It is well known that that was a procedural matter, not concerned with the Bill as such.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-13a.455.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.500.9", "colnum": "500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ernest Marples", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ernest Marples", "preceding_text": "ter was very startling. He intended to harness Socialism to science and science to Socialism. There is no doubt that those speeches, and especially the Prime Minister's speech at Scarborough, had a great effect on the nation. The speech at Scarborough was an extremely fine example of the way in which words could be thrown together. This afternoon we are examining not only the words, but the deeds.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.500.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.503.1", "colnum": "503", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is hon. Members opposite who do it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "ilure is uncertainty. The machine tool industry is uncertain of its future. The question to which the Government should address themselves is whether they are nationalising it. The industry will have difficulty in raising capital. The Machine Tool Trades Association has said to some of my colleagues that the industry is being harmed, particularly overseas, by persistent rumours of nationalisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.503.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.503.1", "colnum": "503", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "n see how effective it is, what is does, where it is situated. A whole heap of information is given. I would suggest to the right hon. Gentleman that he and his Department look at this United States publication to see whether it can produce something on similar lines which, I am sure, would help the right hon. Gentleman in his studies, and would certainly help the nation as a whole in its studies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.503.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.503.1", "colnum": "503", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": " He was appointed as Minister of Technology to do this very job, and I am only trying to assist him to do it by giving him advice and guidance on what he ought to do. I may point out, for example, that in 1954 the United States had 10 computers; in 1956, 90; in 1958, 250; in 1960, 531; in 1962, 1,030. They projected it forward to 1964–66. In 1964 they hoped to have 1,767 and in 1966, 2,150—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.503.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.508.1", "colnum": "508", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "\"But 1966?\" This is the 1965 one.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "Certainly. I am very grateful to the hon. Member for starting to put his question originally by saying, \"May I ask the Minister?\" The date of this publication is July, 1964. It therefore projects 1964 forward. The 1965 one will be out any moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.508.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.508.5", "colnum": "508", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "The computer, as the hon. Gentleman knows, is a comparatively new tool.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.508.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.509.0", "colnum": "509", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "I would not accept that, either.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.509.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.509.0", "colnum": "509", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "that, either. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] No. I would not accept that. For example, if local authorities were prepared to accept the programme—the software—which had already been done by another local authority, they could go into action straightaway. The hon. Gentleman agrees with me on this? The problem of getting a computer into action is not in buying the hardware but to get the software formulated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.509.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.509.0", "colnum": "509", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "ority, they could go into action straightaway. The hon. Gentleman agrees with me on this? The problem of getting a computer into action is not in buying the hardware but to get the software formulated. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on.\"] I am not surprised that the hon. Member wants me to get a move on. The second interruption by the hon. Member for Middlesbrough, West (Dr. Bray) can be demolished easily.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.509.0"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.518.0", "colnum": "518", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marples", "preceding_text": "I made a lot of inquiries whether or not this was in order beforehand—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.518.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.519.1", "colnum": "519", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Technology (Mr. Frank Cousins)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Technology (Mr. Frank Cousins)", "preceding_text": "shall not attempt to compete with the comedy act which has just been put on and which has been directed towards trying to establish that I have not resolved in a short time the economic mess in which we found ourselves on coming to power. Nor will I allow the right hon. Member for Wallasey (Mr. Marples) to make my speech for me. I do this, because I happen to think that this is a serious subject.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.519.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.521.4", "colnum": "521", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "I said, \"In attempting to remain within order\", and you have confirmed that I was, Dr. King. I simply dealt with the relevant points raised by the right hon. Member for Wallasey. If you had ruled the other interruption by the right hon. Member in order, I should have attempted to deal with that one, too—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.521.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.570.0", "colnum": "570", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And Members of Parliament.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": " the Minister could take a leaf out of the book of the Department of Education and Science and put on such courses, not for young men entering industry, whose influence will not be felt for 20 years, but for those who are already in positions of top management. I should like to see them back in school, if only for a short time. With them, there might be some of the top officials from trade unions—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.570.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.582.1", "colnum": "582", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Page", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Page", "preceding_text": "n I mention technicians I refer to the scientists and technologists whose qualifications are enumerated in that survey. First, more than half of all those employed in private manufacturing industry work for firms which employ fewer than 500 employees. Next, about half the total of the technical manpower of the country, that portion of it being 88,000, are engaged in private manufacturing industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.582.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.617.1", "colnum": "617", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Biffen", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He has gone.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Biffen", "preceding_text": "which, at times, we feel must be unique to this island are, in fact, problems international in character which affect a great many of our competitor nations. I fear that I must now stray a little and be somewhat more controversial. We are moving a reduction in the Vote. But before I go further, I wish to try to establish a measure of bipartisanship with the hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.617.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.622.2", "colnum": "622", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bernard Conlan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bernard Conlan", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman will appreciate that the machine tool industry leaves much to be desired and itself has recognised this to be the case, so much so that it is expending a great deal of money on research and development.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.622.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.626.1", "colnum": "626", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "embers opposite, who clearly take a great nonparty interest in this subject, have made this point. But if hon. and right hon. Members opposite wanted to lift this subject out of politics and to have a discussion about technology on its merits, it seems to me slightly strange that they should slap on a three-line Whip and move a Motion of censure on the Minister before they knew what he had to say.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.626.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.631.6", "colnum": "631", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "I cannot give way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.631.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.631.9", "colnum": "631", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "Having dealt with—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.631.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.631.9", "colnum": "631", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "Having dealt with—[ Interruption. ] It is extraordinary how many hon. Members opposite can—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.631.9"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.2", "colnum": "632", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "Not only the question—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.2", "colnum": "632", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "Not only the question—[ Interruption. ] Not only the question—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.4", "colnum": "632", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "Not only are we dealing with training under the Industrial Training Act; it is also our intention to deal with the question of adult retraining. It is also interesting to note that two years ago—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.6", "colnum": "632", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "On the question of adult retraining—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.11", "colnum": "632", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "I had no idea of saying anything that was out of order—but there are things in the world that do stink like stoats.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.632.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.641.1", "colnum": "641", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "es, so would we all, I think. This is why the Government have thought it proper to apply the principle of equal treatment by the tax authorities in this Bill. The salaries of the senior judges in Scotland and Northern Ireland are also proportionately raised. I apprehend that some hon. Members may take the view that an increase of 25 per cent. in the salary of the High Court judges is too generous.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.641.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.641.1", "colnum": "641", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "e of equal treatment by the tax authorities in this Bill. The salaries of the senior judges in Scotland and Northern Ireland are also proportionately raised. I apprehend that some hon. Members may take the view that an increase of 25 per cent. in the salary of the High Court judges is too generous. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I notice the cries of poverty coming from the other side of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.641.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.643.3", "colnum": "643", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": " year to £6,250. In view of certain comments which have been made about this part of the Bill, perhaps I ought to make it clear that it is not open to a Lord Chancellor on retirement to return to practise at the Bar. A busy Queen's Counsel who accepts the Great Seal has no security of tenure and he knows that he cannot enjoy the salary attached to the post for more than a short and uncertain time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.643.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.650.1", "colnum": "650", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is there more crime there?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "contemporary judges, as I have ventured to say, have maintained the very high quality indeed of the High Court bench. In regard to the number of judicial appointments to the High Court, in England and Wales there are fewer High Court judges per million of the population than in Scotland and considerably fewer than in the most nearly comparable judicial systems in Australia, Canada and New Zealand.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.650.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.650.1", "colnum": "650", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "biding—I do not know: but I doubt whether our Commonwealth friends would be flattered by that intervention. At least, the increase in crime in our own country does not in any case call for complacency on our part in the face of the problem. The remaining provisions of the Bill are of less importance than those to which I have referred, and at this stage I need trouble the House only with Clause 4.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.650.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.652.4", "colnum": "652", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "ey-General has made a very careful exposition of the Bill. I was amazed at his fortitude or foolhardiness in not declaring an interest—no doubt it was because of the absence of his hon. Friend the Member for Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton)—because I am quite certain that one day the right hon. and learned Gentleman will be a most distinguished ornament of the Bench. I declare no interest at all—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.652.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.656.3", "colnum": "656", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "which had to come in the first eight months of this Government. I believe that we have quite a big legislative programme; whether or not hon. Members opposite agree does not matter at the moment There is and was a large legislative programme based on the policy of this Government, but no mention was made of increases in judges' remuneration. No reference was made by any leader of the Labour Party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.656.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.657.3", "colnum": "657", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "There was nothing in the legislative programmes of the political parties on this subject and, to the best of my knowledge, none of the leaders of the Labour Party made any reference to it. None of the Liberals did, and certainly not the Tory Party. Therefore, through the campaign, if this was such a vital issue, and it was so urgent, why did not someone think of telling the electorate about it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.657.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.657.3", "colnum": "657", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"They did not tell you.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "at there was no report on this subject, there was no committee, there was no legislation, there was no recommendation from the House during the whole period that I have been here about judges' salaries. I will go further than that. The Attorney-General said that there was a agreement between the two sides in March of last year. That was the first that I had heard about it. I knew nothing about it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.657.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.659.1", "colnum": "659", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"There are more than that\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "t inside. I have no interest to declare. I am one of the few Members present here this evening who have no connection with the law. As the right hon. and learned Gentleman has said, there are lawyers here. Of course, it is true. I am told there are about 100 hon. and learned Members who have some connection with the law. Some are Queen's Counsel, some are barristers-at-law and some are solicitors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.659.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.659.1", "colnum": "659", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "ave been going through the OFFICIAL REPORT. We have a wonderful Reference Library, whose staff have been helping me. I asked them if they could find me one Question from a member of the legal fraternity which has asked for the matter of judges' salaries to be considered one of urgency. There is not one hon. and learned Member who has done it. Probably, as they have not got a very good trade union—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.659.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.659.1", "colnum": "659", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "esigned, and certainly none has resigned because he cannot manage on his inadequate salary. As far as I know, over the last few years none of them has died in poverty, or without leaving a few thousand pounds. I mention this because it has been suggested that judges' salaries must tie up with the salaries of Members of Parliament. They have nothing to do with the salaries of Members of Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.659.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.661.3", "colnum": "661", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "do unpopular things because of what they inherited. I am not complaining at the fact that, far from reducing mortgage and interest rates, they have increased them because of what they inherited and have had to deal with. But they do not have to adopt a Measure which the Tories prepared. Why do the Government have to put into effect legislation which the Tories prepared? Because they gave a pledge?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.661.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.664.6", "colnum": "664", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "ion, let him have it. All I say is that the law is wrong. The law should not entitle a man in that position to have £30,000 or £40,000 a year and the right to claim not only £5,000 now, but a proposed £6,250. Again, there is no comparison with Members of Parliament. We contribute to our pension fund. We have to do 10 years. The Lord Chancellor can do 10 months on the Woolsack and draw his pension.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.664.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.665.1", "colnum": "665", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": " he is leading Tory revolts against the democratically expressed will of this House and bringing in provisions restricting the trade unions? I am speaking in all seriousness about this. Am I, a Labour man who objects to his politics, and who openly and frankly says so, to be expected to pay this man £5,000 a year and vote him another £1,250 a year on top to enable him to sit in the House of Lords?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.665.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.665.1", "colnum": "665", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "ple as represented in this House. No one can remove him. No one can take away his pension. No one can stop him. But I am told that he is acting in a judicial capacity. If he is, let the judiciary of the Tory Party pay him. Perhaps some hon. and learned Members opposite might even club round to help. I started in a jocular vein, but I am very annoyed and upset about the Bill. My party sent me here—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.665.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.667.3", "colnum": "667", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "preceding_text": "I congratulate the Government on resisting pressure based on the suggestion that this is an untimely and unpopular Measure. The hon. Member is entitled to his views, but I ask him and the House to consider whether his speech was not, in the main, a denigration of the members of our judiciary and the functions they carry out in society.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.667.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.668.7", "colnum": "668", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "preceding_text": "It has been said that justice delayed is justice denied. Circumstances at assizes at the moment are such as to give rise to anxiety in this connection. About a fortnight ago, the officers of the Welsh Association of Law Societies and the officers of the Wales and Chester Circuit met to consider this point, which applies particularly to the hearing of civil actions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.668.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.669.1", "colnum": "669", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "cue_text": "AN. HON. MEMBER: \"It depends what is meant by high responsibility.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowen", "preceding_text": ",000 and £11,000. The Chairman of London Transport Board received £7,000 in 1954, and now the figure is £11,000. It is difficult, in this sphere, to talk about the rate for the job, but if one compares what is proposed in the Bill with the high responsibilities it is certainly not out of proportion to what has happened in relation to people with high responsibility in other spheres of public life.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.669.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.671.1", "colnum": "671", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. T. Paget", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"It is not the only one, either.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. T. Paget", "preceding_text": "pledges are before us. One of those pledges was to bring public service pensions up to the purchasing power which they used to possess, to save them from inflation and to apply the principle of parity to public service pensioners. That was a pledge which I was authorised to give and gave on behalf of this party. It has not been implemented, and it was our pledge and not that of the party opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.671.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.671.1", "colnum": "671", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. T. Paget", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. T. Paget", "preceding_text": " HON. MEMBER: \"It is not the only one, either.\"] Why is there this priority here? We are told about the salaries of Members of Parliament. I do not think that the timing of the increase in the salaries of Members of Parliament was right. What happened in that case was that Members' salaries and the removal of prescription charges came in right away before we had run into the economic difficulties—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.671.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.674.11", "colnum": "674", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Howe", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"On his side they want people's courts.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Geoffrey Howe", "preceding_text": "tion has presented itself should, I think, be a cause of some concern, because it suggests, as the hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for Cardigan (Mr. Bowen) pointed out, a lack of awareness of the importance, in a democratic society such as ours, of the quality of judge, which is manifestly high, independent and effective. The hon. Gentleman opposite is making observations while sitting down—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.674.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.676.1", "colnum": "676", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Howe", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Howe", "preceding_text": "t years members of the Bar, people of high quality, have been attracted to other non-judicial activities with substantial fringe benefits, far beyond those to which the hon. Member for West Ham, North referred. At all levels of society we are living in a competitive world in which the labour market is at work and where the rate for the job has to be paid to get the quality of man that is required.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.676.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.678.2", "colnum": "678", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Abse", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Abse", "preceding_text": "Would not it be fair to say that many of the difficulties of which the hon. Member is speaking come not from a shortage of judges, but from the rigidity of the Bar, which often refuses to alter judges' arrangements? The inconveniences that arise are due not to the causes that the hon. Member is emphasising, but to the attitude adopted by both sections of the Bar.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.678.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.682.3", "colnum": "682", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "l (Mr. Selwyn Lloyd) and the reported views of my right hon. and learned Friend about what took place in March of last year. The right hon. and learned Member for Wirral said that all that happened was that the then Lord Chancellor made a statement in another place. But I have heard it said that, before that statement was made, it was shown to the then shadow Cabinet, who agreed it. If that is so—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.682.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.683.0", "colnum": "683", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "I said it with absolute clarity, and the Chief Whip understood me. I will say it again now in monosyllables, for the benefit of the hon. Gentleman. I have heard it said that these words of the then Lord Chan-cell-or were agreed in ad-vance with the then sha-dow Cab-in-et.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.683.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.712.0", "colnum": "712", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grant-Ferris", "preceding_text": "ight. If a thing is right to do, it does not matter about the time. It ought to be done. The judges are so important, such a popular institution, so respected and so deserving of our attention that we should see that they are properly paid. I hope that as many hon. and right hon. Members as think that will be here to go into the Lobby in support of the Bill tonight, whether they are paired or not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.711.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.727.2", "colnum": "727", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir J. Hobson", "preceding_text": "There must be a misunderstanding in relation to my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Wirral (Mr. Selwyn Lloyd).", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.727.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-14", "file": "debates1965-07-14a.xml", "sha256": "1c4cb6ec7c035576", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.732.2", "colnum": "732", "heading": "Orders of the Day — JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "I always hesitate to deal with matters regarding the administration of the law in Scotland. But there is already a spare judge in the Scottish legal arrangements.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-14a.732.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.754.2", "colnum": "754", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — GIBRALTAR", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. White", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. White", "preceding_text": "To get the record straight, there has been no intensification of restrictions since March, as far as the people of Gibraltar themselves are concerned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.754.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.754.2", "colnum": "754", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — GIBRALTAR", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. White", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"There has been no improvement.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. White", "preceding_text": "To get the record straight, there has been no intensification of restrictions since March, as far as the people of Gibraltar themselves are concerned. [ Interruption. ] I am aware of that. I want to make it clear that there has been no worsening of the situation, tiresome as it is for all concerned—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.754.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.754.2", "colnum": "754", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — GIBRALTAR", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. White", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Words!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. White", "preceding_text": ". [ Interruption. ] I am aware of that. I want to make it clear that there has been no worsening of the situation, tiresome as it is for all concerned—[HON. MEMBERS: \"There has been no improvement.\"] I agree that there has been no improvement except in so far as people going to and from Tangier are being allowed free entry and exit at the frontier. We fully sympathise with the people of Gibraltar.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.754.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.774.1", "colnum": "774", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — FEDERATION OF SOUTH ARABIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ll these economic questions. May I say I share his deep concern on some of the points he has mentioned, not least the question he raised in relation to the Southern Region services, to which my right hon. Friend referred yesterday. I certainly share that concern. So far as the incomes policy is concerned, I believe that we have made considerable progress in getting acceptance of an incomes policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.774.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.775.0", "colnum": "775", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — FEDERATION OF SOUTH ARABIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I am aware of the hon. Gentleman's Question, and again I share his concern. On the question of the docks referred to by the hon. Gentleman and the right hon. Member, I think we all feel that things are in a pretty dreadful mess there. This is why the Devlin Commission was appointed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.775.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.776.1", "colnum": "776", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": " at once that there is every year at this stage of the year a rather heavy overloading of the Order Paper and of the business of the House. The House has to make up its mind. My endeavour, as Leader of the House, is to get the House up at the end of the first week in August. It is for the House to decide. If the House—both sides—wishes to take things more leisurely, we can go into the second week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.776.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.782.0", "colnum": "782", "heading": "MR. ADLAI STEVENSON", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "ls, a master of the spoken word, with a wit which is memorable equally for its penetration as for its complete innocence of malice, above all a statesman dedicated to a great vision of the new world he laboured so devotedly to create, Adlai Stevenson will be missed here in Britain, in the Commonwealth, and more widely, just as sadly as in his sorrowing homeland where he is so deeply mourned today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.781.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.783.0", "colnum": "783", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "rted in The Times, that when he told the House on Monday about the possibility of the Joint Parlia- mentary Secretary seeing Ho Chi Minh, he had already authorised his return to this country because his mission was abortive? Secondly, is it not a fact that so far from contributing to the possibility of peace in South-East Asia, this humiliating rebuff to a British Minister, for it is nothing less—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.783.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.784.0", "colnum": "784", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman, who, on Monday, was keen on this mission, and who, last week, was supporting it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.784.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.784.4", "colnum": "784", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " of his time, and he still had not received a reply to his letter to the Prime Minister of North Vietnam asking to see him. So much for that question. The right hon. Gentleman now says that this visit has harmed the cause of peace. He refers to it as a rebuff. What I want to be clear about is what he felt we should have done. Should we not have sent an emissary to Hanoi? Is that what he is saying?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.784.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.786.2", "colnum": "786", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Who?", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir. They indicated to my hon. Friend that they could not go beyond what they had said in a public statement about their unwillingness to receive the Mission and they explained the reason for it to my hon. Friend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.786.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.786.4", "colnum": "786", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Kenneth Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.786.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.786.6", "colnum": "786", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Cheap.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "This is a twentieth century war about which we are talking.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.786.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.787.1", "colnum": "787", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is true.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman will no doubt have time afterwards to consider whether he thinks that that remark was worthy of him. I do not think that it was.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.787.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.787.3", "colnum": "787", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"By whom?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend knows, and I know this. I have offered to show the right hon. Gentleman the telegram. My hon. Friend had been promised that he would see him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.787.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.787.3", "colnum": "787", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who were they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend knows, and I know this. I have offered to show the right hon. Gentleman the telegram. My hon. Friend had been promised that he would see him. [HON. MEMBERS: \"By whom?\"] Promised by the people to whom he was talking in North Vietnam.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.787.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.787.3", "colnum": "787", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend knows, and I know this. I have offered to show the right hon. Gentleman the telegram. My hon. Friend had been promised that he would see him. [HON. MEMBERS: \"By whom?\"] Promised by the people to whom he was talking in North Vietnam. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Who were they?\"] Representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.787.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.789.1", "colnum": "789", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about Gordon Walker?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The North Vietnam Government had not given any of us any reply at a Government-to-Government level to the request that the Commonwealth Mission should see it. There was still some doubt on that question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.789.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.790.1", "colnum": "790", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What is the difference?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The answer to that is that we shall not be diverted by this kind of thing. Indeed, other measures are already going ahead to try to get a dialogue with those responsible.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.790.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.791.1", "colnum": "791", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I think that we have had enough of this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.791.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.791.3", "colnum": "791", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Sit down.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "On a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.791.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.792.1", "colnum": "792", "heading": "VIETNAM (PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY'S VISIT TO HANOI)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman is about six months behind the times in that question, if I may say so. I have reported many times to the House that, although there was a period during the winter when it appeared that the Soviet Government considered that the co-chairmanship was no longer operative, this had completely changed again in the spring. I have reported this to the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.792.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.810.1", "colnum": "810", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When.\"?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "y. The Government have succeeded in making it rather longer. Our aim in the future must be to simplify the tax structure, and not in a way which is damaging to the economic interests of this country. I have outlined our objections to this Bill as it stands, and that is the reason why we shall divide against it tonight. We cannot foresee in what economic circumstances we shall be returned to power—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.810.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.820.3", "colnum": "820", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lever", "preceding_text": "cal system, far greater than any of his predecessors has made since I have been in the House. After this, there will be no turning back. It is all very well the right hon. Member for Bexley saying that he has no objection to Capital Gains Tax or Cor- poration Tax. All I can say is that the Governments in which he served restrained their enthusiasm from taking any practical form over a long period—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.820.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.877.3", "colnum": "877", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stratton Mills", "cue_text": "Hon. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stratton Mills", "preceding_text": "stry. I think we may have to go even further than this. There are almost 4 million shareholders who have direct holdings in shares. There are their families whom they support so one must add to this number of 4 million. I think that there is a great need to form some sort of shareholders protection society to prevent political demagogues severely damaging their interests through lack of knowledge.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.877.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.878.1", "colnum": "878", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stratton Mills", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stratton Mills", "preceding_text": "trate the difficulties under the present system of taxation of people who are in business and who are relying on their own capital assets which will increase under the Bill. If one asked a year ago which country was the most heavily taxed in the free world, the answers were arguable. There is no doubt now that Britain is the most heavily taxed country in the Western world as a result of this Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.878.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.893.5", "colnum": "893", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "eat deal of bitterness and abuse has been let loose on the Bill but again, looking back at the 1909 Act, one sees that the bitterness, hatred and abuse generated in those days was far more powerful and far more significant than anything we have seen on this Bill. Of course, we had such masters then as Lloyd George and F. E. Smith—and in comparison with them Jim Callaghan is the greatest gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.893.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.893.5", "colnum": "893", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": " voting record. We have had 106 Divisions and the Government's average majority has been nine. We lost only three, and that was because of the \"cowboys and Indians\" act of the Opposition Chief Whip who had to justify his existence to somebody. In the fight for the leadership stakes we have had further examples of voting records. The right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition voted 40 times.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.893.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.893.5", "colnum": "893", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": " Cann), voted 43 times. Is this fighting opposition? The Government's sense of timing today has perhaps been good. We have had the Report of the Committee of Privileges at the same time as this debate. It is remarkable that so many back benchers opposite have taken part in this debate. They have almost tripped themselves up in their eagerness to denounce certain parts of the Bill. We all know why.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.893.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.896.0", "colnum": "896", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "eir taxation policy the Opposition believe in fairer shares in taxation. All I can do in replying to that sort of remark—and it was made by the right hon. Member for Bexley—is to point out the record of the Conservative Party in this respect. Hon. Members opposite say that they advocate fairer shares in taxation. Let us examine the record. In six Budgets in which they reduced Income Tax or Surtax—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.896.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.896.2", "colnum": "896", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "Not as many as were taken out of tax by the late Hugh Dalton.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.896.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.899.1", "colnum": "899", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Not at all.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "ossible reason can there be for the obvious relish with which the Chancellor announced the wholesale disallowance of entertainment expenditure for tax purposes? The right hon. Gentleman knows, the Inland Revenue knows, and every accountant in this House knows—and my hon. Friend the Member for Ormskirk (Sir D. Glover) pointed this out—that the abuse is confined to a small proportion of businessmen.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.899.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.916.1", "colnum": "916", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I hope that the right hon. Gentleman's supporters now feel absolutely clear as to what right hon. Gentlemen opposite want to do. Much play has been made of the fact that the Bill, as it stands, is anti-business. That is not true.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.916.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.917.3", "colnum": "917", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Scores?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " from overseas investment by this country. I have been questioned about the chairmen of companies who came to see me. Frankly, I did not see that it was worth while spending a lot of time on this, but as both right hon. Gentlemen have made a meal of it I will say something about it. I was giving in Committee my impressions of the attitude of scores of company chairmen who have been in front of me.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.917.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.917.3", "colnum": "917", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "he wrong way. This is always the cry whenever any reform is introduced. I believe that the time was overripe for this. I regret, in some ways, the heat which has been engendered in this matter. To the extent that I am responsible, I am sorry that it is so, because believe strongly that this is a necessary reform for the health of business in this country. There is nothing anti-business about this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.917.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.917.3", "colnum": "917", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " To the extent that I am responsible, I am sorry that it is so, because believe strongly that this is a necessary reform for the health of business in this country. There is nothing anti-business about this. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Nothing at all. I have said time and time again that this Measure and the general attitude of the Government towards business enterprise is to stimulate and encourage it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.917.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.917.3", "colnum": "917", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FINANCE (No. 2) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " time again that this Measure and the general attitude of the Government towards business enterprise is to stimulate and encourage it. [ Laughter. ] There is no need for anybody on the Opposition benches to titter about this. It is necessary for the health of the economy that we should have a well developed and healthy private sector, not necessarily a predominant sector, but a sector that exists.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.917.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.939.2", "colnum": "939", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CONTROL OF OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stephen Hastings", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stephen Hastings", "preceding_text": "at the Amendment is really most reasonable. An increase of an office from the size of the Clerk's Table to four times the size of the Table is not adequate. It is perhaps the difference between having one secretary or having an extra executive with the two extra secretaries to go with him. One extra secretary is a virtually meaningless expansion, but if a firm such as the one which I have in mind—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.939.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-15", "file": "debates1965-07-15a.xml", "sha256": "3e9b46a47cc1eea6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.963.4", "colnum": "963", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CONTROL OF OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy-Speaker", "preceding_text": "Is it the wish of the House that the Amendment be withdrawn?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-15a.963.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-16", "file": "debates1965-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "ec2b839bdf2dd30d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.979.1", "colnum": "979", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": " to listen to and take into account each individual act and to see whether they add up to a course of conduct. The next question was, would a licensee be prohibited from putting up a notice \"No Coaches\"? Certainly not. He can do that as he does now. Why? Because the notice \"No coaches accepted\" applies to all members of the public in coaches. If he puts up a notice, \"No coloured coaches accepted\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.979.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-16", "file": "debates1965-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "ec2b839bdf2dd30d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.997.1", "colnum": "997", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about the brewster sessions?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman is reinforcing my point. The whole point is that in the past the licensee has not had to give reasons to anyone. Therefore, there was no risk of proceedings being taken against him—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.997.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-16", "file": "debates1965-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "ec2b839bdf2dd30d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.997.2", "colnum": "997", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "cue_text": "HON. Members: \"No\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "preceding_text": "No. I can assure hon. Members that many of these complaints which may come up in the course of a year never reach the brewster sessions at all. Under the Bill the licensee may be required to give to an official a reason for refusing service. In doing so he will be making an allegation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.997.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-16", "file": "debates1965-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "ec2b839bdf2dd30d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.999.2", "colnum": "999", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Or a Member of Parliament.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorpe", "preceding_text": "Of if he is a gipsy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.999.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-16", "file": "debates1965-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "ec2b839bdf2dd30d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.999.3", "colnum": "999", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "preceding_text": "I can. But I cannot go to the conciliation committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.999.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-16", "file": "debates1965-07-16a.xml", "sha256": "ec2b839bdf2dd30d", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.1088.1", "colnum": "1088", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RACE RELATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "preceding_text": " in the future, and if he wants a fruitful Adjournment debate he had better learn the technique. When I came here today I had intended to be friendy towards the hon. Gentleman, to try to give him as much information as I could both on the general principles and on his own project. But if he comes here and expects to get away with the type of political propaganda that he attempted to get away with—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-16a.1088.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1096.1", "colnum": "1096", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Disgraceful.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorpe", "preceding_text": "unate that the hon. Gentleman the Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Dr. Wyndham Davies), who I believe shares the hostility of the Association of British Pharmaceutical Industry to this firm, because it is not a member of that association, is himself retained as one of their advisers, and is the senior medical adviser of Nicholas Laboratories, Ltd., which is one of the main competitors of Biorex?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1096.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1097.0", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF HEALTH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Davies", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. I am not retained by the Association of British Pharmaceutical Industry and I am not associated with the pharmaceutical industry, otherwise I should have withdrawn.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1096.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1111.6", "colnum": "1111", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOSPITALS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Reading.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "preceding_text": "Is the Minister aware that there was issued from his Ministry on 12th May a circular to hospital boards which says: Review of the Hospital Plan. The first aim of the review\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1111.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1116.4", "colnum": "1116", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOSPITALS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "preceding_text": "At least one new medical school is planned. If the right hon. Gentleman wishes to quote the election statements, he is tempting us to quote other election statements.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1116.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1116.4", "colnum": "1116", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOSPITALS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "preceding_text": "At least one new medical school is planned. If the right hon. Gentleman wishes to quote the election statements, he is tempting us to quote other election statements. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"] We have been in office for less than a year—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1116.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1123.3", "colnum": "1123", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": " the future of human life on this planet. If the House accepts this analysis, it is a question, by every means open to us, of getting men round the table to secure an honourable and lasting peace. This has been the central theme of Her Majesty's Government's policy for many months. The right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition, with whom I do not intend to pick any quarrels this afternoon—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1123.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1146.1", "colnum": "1146", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": " and any solution which does not carry conviction will not be of any great value. I turn to the Prime Minister's own diplomatic activities in recent weeks. He tended, I think, rather to resent the criticism that we have made of his initiatives. Therefore, I will explain why we think that what he has been doing has lessened the ability of this country to contribute to a solution in South-East Asia.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1146.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1146.1", "colnum": "1146", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "tiatives can do positive harm to the cause of peace. Secondly, I must say that his technique and his methods have been such as to give the impression that he acts precipitately, without due preparation. They certainly have given the impression, not only in this country but outside, that in the actions that he has taken he has been paying considerable attention to domestic political considerations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1146.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1149.1", "colnum": "1149", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "That is not a fact. I checked the quotation very carefully. He was talking about the recent conference. He said that it had been the \"football\" of British party politics and that many other Commonwealth Prime Ministers took the same view. He said of previous meetings that they appeared to exist … only … to approve British policy aims and needs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1149.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1229.1", "colnum": "1229", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Wall", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Wall", "preceding_text": "sion. I found that the majority of people there take much the same view about external affairs, whether they are in Syracuse or Seattle. The strength of the President of the United States stems partly from the fact that as a Democratic Party President he has taken over Republican foreign policy—in the same way as the present Socialist Prime Minister here has taken over Conservative foreign policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1229.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1252.3", "colnum": "1252", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Padley", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Padley", "preceding_text": "sufficient, rather than on other measures to bring the Spanish Government to reason. I must say that I find it odd that hon. Members opposite can still talk about frigates and, at the same time, advocate drastic economic sanctions against Spain. Hon. Members opposite must make up their minds which of these two lines they support. I make that point with great reluctance, because, as hon. Gentlemen—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1252.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1252.3", "colnum": "1252", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Padley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Padley", "preceding_text": "ions against Spain. Hon. Members opposite must make up their minds which of these two lines they support. I make that point with great reluctance, because, as hon. Gentlemen—[ Interruption .] Yes. My words on this issue since last November are on record and, the whole time, I have sought, in every debate in which I have spoken on Gibraltar, to take it quite out of the realms of public controversy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1252.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1271.1", "colnum": "1271", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "preceding_text": "We have heard some passionate stuff—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1271.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1281.1", "colnum": "1281", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric S. Heffer", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric S. Heffer", "preceding_text": " It also means that the interest on the borrowed money must be passed on to the tenants of council property. Much has been said about people who live in council property and people who live in private property. Whatever is said about either category, the time is approaching when—certainly in places like Liverpool which have special problems—one will have to be a millionaire to rent a council flat.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1281.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1287.3", "colnum": "1287", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "preceding_text": "rpool, Walton (Mr. Heffer) seemed to be addressing his remarks to his own Front Bench, and I hope he will get an answer to those comments from there. What he was complaining about was the high interest rates which exist at the present time under the Labour Government. The hon. Member for Manchester, Openshaw (Mr. Charles Morris) said that the Opposition were giving a qualified welcome to the Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1287.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-19", "file": "debates1965-07-19a.xml", "sha256": "10154185e378bf3b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1294.4", "colnum": "1294", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Temple", "preceding_text": " hold. That is exactly where the Labour Government is at the present time. It certainly has all its flags flying, but I very much doubt whether it has much in the way of stores in the hold. Here I should like to express a strictly personal view with regard to commitments in local authority spending. I believe that there is a case today for reviewing whether the school-leaving age should be raised.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-19a.1294.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1328.3", "colnum": "1328", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — OVERSEAS DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why not?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Oram", "preceding_text": "This question has been carefully considered, both by ourselves and the preceding Government. I agree with the hon. Gentleman that the forthcoming Commonwealth Conference may well provide a suitable quorum for this exploration, but I would not like it to be thought that we have any hope or real wish to create the kind of service which the hon. Gentleman suggests in his Question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1328.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1341.15", "colnum": "1341", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There has been too much waste of time.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " difficult it was to talk in a foreign affairs debate which ranges over the whole world. I sympathise, and although each time the request was made that we might discuss more specific points and questions, the Patronage Secretary winced with pain, nevertheless I suggest that we should give more time for foreign affairs debates in the House which might be applied to more specific areas and problems.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1341.15"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1349.1", "colnum": "1349", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Who said that?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "is war in South-East Asia is a war in which South Vietnamese, Malayans, Australians and New Zealanders feel strongly enough to send their sons to die. Hon. and right hon. Members will remember that plently of people said when we were threatened in Europe how mad we were to fight and how any patched up settlement would be better than war. They wanted us to patch up a settlement with the aggressors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1349.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1353.2", "colnum": "1353", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Send British troops.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "ave been exemplary, the Foreign Secretary's words have been exemplary, but their intentions are judged by their deeds. What they have done in this matter is to lend colour to the suggestion, which is totally untrue, that the British Government are for peace at any price. That is the damage which has been done. The Prime Minister fairly asked what I would do in these circumstances. I will tell him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1353.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1354.1", "colnum": "1354", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Suez.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "The hon. Lady had her answer from the Minister of State last night. That should satisfy her for some time. The Prime Minister asked what I would do in these circumstances to operate British diplomacy. There are two rules, absolute rules, if there is to be success. The first is to consult the Americans at every stage—not to inform, but to consult the Americans.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1354.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1354.1", "colnum": "1354", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "her answer from the Minister of State last night. That should satisfy her for some time. The Prime Minister asked what I would do in these circumstances to operate British diplomacy. There are two rules, absolute rules, if there is to be success. The first is to consult the Americans at every stage—not to inform, but to consult the Americans. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Suez.\"] We could never have influenced—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1354.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1361.1", "colnum": "1361", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "the right hon. Gentleman did not at all deal with the interjection in his speech which my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister made. There is one thing we could do which would produce the most cordial relations with the Soviet Union, that is, to announce our conversion to their view of the Vietnam dispute. Does the right hon. Gentleman—this is the question he was asked—urge that we should do that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1361.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1385.0", "colnum": "1385", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henderson", "preceding_text": "Well, according to the statement made by Sir John Cockcroft—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1385.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1397.1", "colnum": "1397", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"We have got that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "I will explain it very carefully to my right hon. Friend. What I was criticising, first of all—I will come in a second to give my view on what measures should be taken to stop the fighting in Vietnam—was that if we are to find the right solution in Vietnam we must get the analysis right first—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1397.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1403.1", "colnum": "1403", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "preceding_text": " known to the House. I did not agree with most of his arguments, although I am sure that all hon. Members regarded his speech as a splendid oration. In addition to the hon. Gentleman's contribution, we have so far heard three great speeches in this debate. The first which I should mention was made by my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition, who spoke with authority and breadth of vision.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1403.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1403.1", "colnum": "1403", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "preceding_text": "he matter beyond question. Those three great speeches were in sad contrast with the speech of the Prime Minister, which, I thought, was unimaginative, sterile and, in some parts, downright shabby. He was out of his depth when he spoke about foreign affairs, and I knew before I came to the debate that he would be out of his depth. However, I did not think that he would mislead the House of Commons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1403.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1417.3", "colnum": "1417", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That was the idea.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "No I will not give way. It would upset the thread of my discourse.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1417.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1453.2", "colnum": "1453", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "You have had one.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thomas", "preceding_text": "nd serious topics involved in a debate on foreign affairs. It would be right, too, that I should reiterate what has been said, not just on this side of the House, that there are so many subjects in foreign affairs that we should have more debates so that we can concentrate on more subjects in the singular for instance, I think it is important that we should have a day to debate Britain and Europe.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1453.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1456.0", "colnum": "1456", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": " initiative. They were apparently willing to re-convene on 20th July but we found it more convenient to go on to 27th July. The right hon. Gentleman asked why we were not ready. I am willing to accept the explanation made last night by the Minister of State about administrative difficulties, but were the Government taken by surprise on this? Was this initiative taken very suddenly by the Russians?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1456.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1459.1", "colnum": "1459", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is talent!\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "asures which once they advocated very strongly—when they used to criticise what we were doing when we were the Government—appear to have been dropped. The Minister of State responsible for disarmament started his political career in a truly spectacular way. Few, if any people, can claim to have become a Minister, a Peer, a Privy Councillor and a member of the Labour Party all in twenty-four hours.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1459.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1468.3", "colnum": "1468", "heading": "Orders of the Day — CIVIL ESTIMATES AND SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1965–66", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomson", "preceding_text": " was normally referred to the United Nations. The fact is that in connection with the Arab-Israel dispute there is an elaborate United Nations machinery on the ground. I only wish that the United Nations was on the ground in the same way in many other parts of the world, and peace would be a good deal safer. In South-East Asia, however, North Vietnam and China are not members of the United Nations", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1468.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1494.4", "colnum": "1494", "heading": "Orders of the Day — GAS (BORROWING POWERS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "preceding_text": "e North Sea he or his successor, could come to Parliament the following day, or week, and he would readily be granted the money, because there would be a need for it. For any Government to ask Parliament for sums in the neighbourhood of £200 million to be granted, just in case they might be needed, is intolerable. The House of Commons has a traditional task of safeguarding the taxpayers' interest—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1494.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1502.1", "colnum": "1502", "heading": "Orders of the Day — GAS (BORROWING POWERS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "oughs. This is about the biggest breakthrough that we have had in the financing of the nationalised industries. What is the purpose of providing this money? If a private proprietor discovers oil and natural gas under the North Sea, what is there to prevent the Minister—perhaps he will assist me in my ignorance of this matter—using this money to nationalise and take over these newly-found deposits?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1502.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1504.2", "colnum": "1504", "heading": "Orders of the Day — GAS (BORROWING POWERS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Webster", "preceding_text": "e sure there is an adequate costing. Those of us who have been round the dockyards and any other public undertaking know that when we have a diversification of industry throughout these vast undertakings it is almost impossible to make sure that there is not a tremendous amount of subsidy, and that the taxpayers' money will not be used for the unfair subsidisation of manufacturer against taxpayer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1504.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1514.4", "colnum": "1514", "heading": "Orders of the Day — GAS (BORROWING POWERS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "preceding_text": "—that the extra £200 million should not be authorised.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1514.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1515.2", "colnum": "1515", "heading": "Orders of the Day — GAS (BORROWING POWERS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Tedious repetition.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkin", "preceding_text": "I am very grateful. I had not intended to suggest otherwise, Dr. King. To recapitulate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1515.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-20", "file": "debates1965-07-20a.xml", "sha256": "bf06e048b099326c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1521.6", "colnum": "1521", "heading": "Orders of the Day — GAS (BORROWING POWERS) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "preceding_text": "inister said—and I am rather concerned to probe this a little further, if I may—that the gas industry will throughout its use of the money, the borrowing of which we are now to authorise, will have to prove the need for every single pound and shilling. All right. How is that different from what he has said in relation to the £200 million borrowing margin? This is where I am a little bit in doubt.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-20a.1521.6"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1558.0", "colnum": "1558", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "preceding_text": "While I am delighted to hear that the matter has been exhaustively examined, if it has—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1558.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1564.1", "colnum": "1564", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mayhew", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mayhew", "preceding_text": "Nothing I have said should lead my hon. Friend to suppose that we are not going to help these pensioners.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1564.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1572.3", "colnum": "1572", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "Is it not a ludicrous situation when a man who applies for his discharge is told that he is too busy to be discharged and yet is spending his time, as my hon. Friend rightly guessed, mowing the captain's lawn and acting as wet nurse to the captain's family?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1572.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1572.3", "colnum": "1572", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "t not a ludicrous situation when a man who applies for his discharge is told that he is too busy to be discharged and yet is spending his time, as my hon. Friend rightly guessed, mowing the captain's lawn and acting as wet nurse to the captain's family? [ Laughter. ] Yes. Hon. Members laugh, but I mean looking after the family, looking after the kiddies and acting as the equivalent of a wet nurse.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1572.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1572.3", "colnum": "1572", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A nanny.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "ischarged and yet is spending his time, as my hon. Friend rightly guessed, mowing the captain's lawn and acting as wet nurse to the captain's family? [ Laughter. ] Yes. Hon. Members laugh, but I mean looking after the family, looking after the kiddies and acting as the equivalent of a wet nurse. [ Laughter. ] All but in fact. Is it not a terrible situation that we have this sort of thing going on?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1572.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1583.5", "colnum": "1583", "heading": "OIL AND GAS (CONTINENTAL SHELF)", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "On a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1583.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1583.5", "colnum": "1583", "heading": "OIL AND GAS (CONTINENTAL SHELF)", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. [ Interruption. ] It is very unfair.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1583.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1642.5", "colnum": "1642", "heading": "POSTAL GIRO SERVICE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman ought to be more careful. I have spoken to no journalists whatsoever about the Government's intentions on the giro. This is a matter of great public interest. If he is implying that I anticipated the statement that I made today when speaking to any journalists, I would be grateful if he would withdraw it immediately.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1642.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1651.3", "colnum": "1651", "heading": "Orders of the Day — New Clause.—(STRIKE DURING CURRENCY OF EMPLOYER'S NOTICE TO TERMINATE CONTRACT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": " forthrightly—I am sure judicially—about this, because the explanatory note of the Order meant that tins can now be used for enclosing amounts of tobacco up to 2 ozs. There are 73 lines in this Clause. With his experience of Lancashire, my hon. Friend will agree that Lancashire is a rather special place. What is more, Lancashire put this Government in office, and, at the moment, is not very happy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1651.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1715.0", "colnum": "1715", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 2.—(GENERAL EXCLUSIONS FROM RIGHT TO REDUNDANCY PAYMENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Kenneth Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kenneth Lewis", "preceding_text": "I hope that the Parliamentary Secretary will reconsider the Amendment, which mentions the word \"reasonable\" and which is reasonable. As it stands at the moment a built-in advantage is given by the Minister to the \"awkward squad\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1715.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1717.0", "colnum": "1717", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 2.—(GENERAL EXCLUSIONS FROM RIGHT TO REDUNDANCY PAYMENT.)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thornton", "preceding_text": "While this does provide for the narrowest possible consideration, would the hon. Gentleman not agree that it gives the widest possible discretion to the tribunal?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1716.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1737.5", "colnum": "1737", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 16.—(EXCLUDED CLASSES OF EMPLOYEES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. R. Wise", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. R. Wise", "preceding_text": "I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman's undertaking at the moment is extraordinarily similar to that given by the First Secretary of State on a previous occasion in this House, when he said that the Government would gladly look at anything—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1737.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1759.1", "colnum": "1759", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 34.—(STRIKES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "preceding_text": "ded to set one up himself. I presume, therefore, that he intended to waste years. That is exactly what will happen. A precedent will be established over five years that it will not be wrong for a man to go on strike in breach of his contract. That is a disastrous state of affairs to legislate for. What we are saying, in effect, is, \"An Englishman's word is his bond, unless he is a trade unionist.\"", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1759.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1759.1", "colnum": "1759", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 34.—(STRIKES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "preceding_text": "he Minister of Labour has said of these strikes that they are serious and damaging to the country's economy. He has recently denounced the great rash of unofficial strikes arising over the past few years and appealed for the honouring of the pledged word. Yet this legislation says straight away that the pledged word is not to count, and that a man will suffer nothing if he breaks his pledged word.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1759.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-21", "file": "debates1965-07-21a.xml", "sha256": "b3a6f89026d217c1", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1759.1", "colnum": "1759", "heading": "Orders of the Day — Clause 34.—(STRIKES.)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mitchell", "preceding_text": "tion says straight away that the pledged word is not to count, and that a man will suffer nothing if he breaks his pledged word. [ Interruption. ] This is indefensible legislation for the Government to bring forward, especially at a time when the country's economy is on a razor edge and lightning strikes are so severely damaging. The sanctity of a contract is the very basis of a civilised society—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-21a.1759.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1811.0", "colnum": "1811", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marten", "preceding_text": "In view of the rise in prices, which has been much more considerable recently than in the past few years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1811.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1811.2", "colnum": "1811", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "preceding_text": "As the right hon. Gentleman's incomes policy is now virtually in ruins—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1811.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1813.7", "colnum": "1813", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "That seems to me to be a different question—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1813.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1816.7", "colnum": "1816", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "Whilst wishing the Minister well—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1816.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1816.9", "colnum": "1816", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ogden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ogden", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of a report in today's issue of the Sun which claims that when the national economic plan is published in September of this year, if I may quote—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1816.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1831.2", "colnum": "1831", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "If I thought that it was going to help—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1831.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1832.5", "colnum": "1832", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "I must explain to the right hon. Gentleman once again—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1832.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1832.5", "colnum": "1832", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "I must explain to the right hon. Gentleman once again—[ Interruption .] If the hon. Member for Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton) will contain himself for a moment, he will hear the answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1832.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1867.1", "colnum": "1867", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Murray", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Murray", "preceding_text": " the \"cattle trucks\". If the R.S.P.C.A. found cattle travelling in the same sort of conditions, they would probably have sued the Minister long ago. The right hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West spoke about redundancy, but how many hon. Members opposite know the fears of redundancy among men who have been working at their jobs since they were boys? It is possible that I will become redundant", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1867.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1924.4", "colnum": "1924", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SUPPLY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "ondon traffic area ought not to have any right of objection to fares increases imposed by the Railways Board. At one time they had such a right. There was the Fares Tribunal before that, but not after the passing of the 1962 Act. After that, the only body of railway passengers who were to be given any protection at all by an independent tribunal were those within the London passenger traffic area.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1924.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1948.3", "colnum": "1948", "heading": "CLASS I", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Order.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gresham Cooke", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1948.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1949.1", "colnum": "1949", "heading": "CLASS I", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rafton Pounder", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"London has one.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rafton Pounder", "preceding_text": "covers the whole nation; the other two are slightly more specific and relate primarily to Northern Ireland. My general point concerns something which I think the Post Office introduced in Northern Ireland about three years ago, a classified telephone directory. I do not know how widely this has been extended throughout the other regions of the United Kingdom but this is of considerable importance.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1949.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1949.1", "colnum": "1949", "heading": "CLASS I", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rafton Pounder", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"It does apply.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rafton Pounder", "preceding_text": " Ireland about three years ago, a classified telephone directory. I do not know how widely this has been extended throughout the other regions of the United Kingdom but this is of considerable importance. [AN HON. MEMBER: \"London has one.\"] There is none which relates to London, certainly none which I have been able to find. This does not apply over the whole country and I hope that steps on this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1949.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1970.3", "colnum": "1970", "heading": "CLASS I", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "preceding_text": "ereas the posts, which, we know, have a less profitable future, should be retained within public enterprise. I suspect that the party opposite dislikes the idea of public enterprise. It has had three shadow Postmasters-General since the election. There is a vacancy now; for whom I do not know; whether for the right hon. Member for Kinross and West Perthshire (Sir Alec Douglas-Home), I do not know.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1970.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1979.0", "colnum": "1979", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about the teachers?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "mber for Wolverhampton, East, is it? I do not know his constituency, because he is not here very often. The object of these Amendments is to limit the proposed increases in the salaries of judges to a figure of 3½ per cent. My hon. Friends will appreciate that there is a reason for the figure of 3½ per cent. It is a very popular figure at the moment. Whenever there is any discussion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1978.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1979.2", "colnum": "1979", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "re in the position that, if they do not get what they feel to be an adequate increase through normal industrial negotiations, they can refer their case to arbitration. The teachers did just that. Therefore, one of the Amendments proposes that this increase should be limited to 3½ per cent., and if the judges do not feel satisfied, as they have not got a trade union affiliated to the T.U.C.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1979.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1984.0", "colnum": "1984", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": " do not know which. But it certainly is not going to satisfy me. Who has asked for this increase? I asked a Question of the Prime Minister today and I got an Answer. I asked him how many trade unions had asked for this increase. The answer was, None. I asked how many co-operative parties had asked for it. The answer was, None. I asked how many Labour parties had asked for it. The answer was, None—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1984.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1984.0", "colnum": "1984", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They have.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": " had asked for it. The answer was, None—[ Interruption .] How many Tory parties? None. I cannot see on what basis this 25 per cent. has been worked out. I know that during Second Reading the right hon. and learned Gentleman mentioned something about an accumulative 1·9 per cent. If that is the basis does it mean that every worker can claim automatically a retrospective 1·9 per cent.?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1984.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1986.3", "colnum": "1986", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "I apologise, and withdraw what I said about the hon. and learned Gentleman being a recorder, but I hope that he gets both appointments very quickly. As to my aspiring to Cabinet rank, either in this Government or in a Government formed by the party opposite, the hon. and learned Gentleman should know that the way to do that is not to try to get this right put wrong by one's own Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1986.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1987.3", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "I do not want to go on at any great length.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1987.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1987.3", "colnum": "1987", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "r that cheer. Hon. Members opposite do not have to wait. They can go. There is no need for hon. Members on my side to wait, either. There is no need for them to wait in order to vote. In fact, there is no need for hon. Members on either side to wait, because my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister has declared that he is not going to accept defeat on anything of this character as a need to resign.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1987.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1994.1", "colnum": "1994", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hale", "preceding_text": "obate, Divorce and Admiralty Division is a man of exemplary character, great ability and fine record. I made no personal criticism of him at all. I said that, in the terms of the definition—I do not know how one otherwise defines it—it was a political appointment to appoint a Tory with a majority of 8,000, a man aged 50, with 10 years' Parliamentary service and with not much experience at the Bar—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.1994.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2007.0", "colnum": "2007", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": " not consider myself bound, and I do not imagine that anyone who was in the previous Parliament considers himself bound. We have complete freedom as our consciences dictate on this issue because we are a new sovereign Parliament elected in October, 1964. Even if I voted in the wrong Lobby in the last Parliament, this is a new Parliament, and I have been re-elected. I can now vote the opposite way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2007.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2011.0", "colnum": "2011", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No, no.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "and learned Gentleman's speech before I \"whipped off\" my letter to The Times . What I was trying to convey to the right hon. and learned Gentleman was that he spent the whole of the time trying to suggest that it was a Conservative Government's decision about the judges, and I was very surprised that he did not, if I am correct, ever refer to the part that I as an ordinary, weak back bench Member—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2011.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2011.1", "colnum": "2011", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "I can only assume, if the hon. Lady was in the debate, that she was temporarily not paying attention when I was speaking, or that the process of stating the facts is an intellectual effort beyond her comprehension.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2011.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2014.1", "colnum": "2014", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": " hundred years, but we shall assume that there will be no change for, at any rate, a generation.\" The quotation was read out by my hon. Friend the Member for Pontypool. Therefore, the assumption of the House of Commons in 1954 was not that judges would henceforth receive annual increments, as other people were receiving them, but that this settlement was being made for a considerable period ahead—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2014.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2032.1", "colnum": "2032", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Driberg", "preceding_text": "y-General argues, that the best of the Bar have always been attracted to the Bench, it seems odd, as my hon. Friend the Member for Pontypool said, to reconcile the argument that these are the noblest and highest minded of mortals with the purely financial argument that they will not be attracted from the Bar to the Bench unless we give them a terrific lot more money. I do not follow that argument.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2032.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2045.11", "colnum": "2045", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "at the information you request concerning the number of hours of sitting over a period is not available. That seemed very odd indeed. I should have thought that surely someone knows when the judicial committees in another place sit for the hearing of appeals. So I put forward a further request for this information. I was told flat that instructions were given that I was to be given no information.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2045.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2080.1", "colnum": "2080", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Abse", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Legislation.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Abse", "preceding_text": " not other ways? For example, could we not see to it that, instead of jealousy preserving the jurisdiction of the judges—who are so jealous of preserving so many offences which come to them and them alone—instead of merely deploring the weight of criminal work which has to go to the the assizes, ask, as the Streatfeild Report began to ask, whether more offences should be taken in quarter sessions—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2080.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-22", "file": "debates1965-07-22a.xml", "sha256": "54f74ab0e1d9f365", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2086.0", "colnum": "2086", "heading": "JUDGES' REMUNERATION BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Lewis", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Lewis", "preceding_text": "because we have tried to get the Government to spend money for really necessary purposes, such as the needs of local authorities. We have always been told that the money is not there and that the Government cannot do these things because they cannot spare the money. If the Government did not appoint these seven extra judges, there would be a saving of the equivalent of their salaries and expenses.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-22a.2086.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-23", "file": "debates1965-07-23a.xml", "sha256": "f1709a5dba2aa83f", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-23a.2204.0", "colnum": "2204", "heading": "Orders of the Day — INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Hear hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maxwell", "preceding_text": "I am a special case; I am entitled to 20 per cent., 7 per cent., 11 per cent., 28 per cent. and any other percentage\" although, if they are told that there is a national problem, they say, \"We agree that sacrifices should be made\" but always by somebody else, not by the person who is being asked to make the contribution. This is very short-sighted of everyone who is involved in these negotiations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-23a.2204.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.3.0", "colnum": "3", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fisher", "preceding_text": "The hon. Gentleman has given a long Answer but has not answered my Question. Is it not the fact that the figures confirm that the Government's attempt to achieve an incomes policy has so far failed, no doubt partly due to the baleful influence of the Minister of Technology?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.3.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.6.1", "colnum": "6", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ronald Bell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Lawyers.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ronald Bell", "preceding_text": "Would the Minister bear in mind that it is most disappointing that nothing has yet been done, although one understands that something is being attempted to be done? Would not the right hon. Gentleman agree that the printing industry is about the worst in the country for restrictive practices—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.6.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.40.1", "colnum": "40", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCOTLAND (INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "now all about it. The Secretary of State might persuade his colleagues to move the entire head- quarters for this operation to somewhere in Scotland. That would mean that the bulk of the timber growing areas would be nearby and the members of the Commission would know more about what goes on in Scotland. The right hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland asked for a Scottish Office with more power and—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.40.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.43.4", "colnum": "43", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCOTLAND (INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": ", c. 379.] I have a feeling that this will be the theme of the right hon. Gentleman's speech, because we have had nothing so far. I am sure that we shall be told that it will be jam tomorrow, but not jam today. All these speeches were united in one thing: They wanted a Socialist Government, and they wanted a Socialist Secretary of State for Scotland. Well, they have got him. Are they proud of him?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.43.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.43.4", "colnum": "43", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCOTLAND (INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is not original.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "bear some of the blame for the fact that practically nothing has come Scotland's way this year. In last year's debate, the present Secretary of State for Scotland referred to himself as a humble peasant. I have never thought of him as a peasant and, certainly while he was in opposition, I never thought of him as humble. Perhaps the situation has changed now that he has so much to be humble about.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.43.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.78.1", "colnum": "78", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCOTLAND (INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hector Monro", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hector Monro", "preceding_text": "omic and social aspects of this problem. I feel that at the moment many people in the area are thinking that we may end up with a freshwater reservoir. That will be an anticlimax. What we want is something that will attract industry and employment to the area. A night-watchman for a freshwater reservoir does not seem to give us what we want. This is not a debate on agriculture, but I must confess—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.78.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.110.6", "colnum": "110", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCOTLAND (INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Steel", "preceding_text": "No. I cannot give way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.110.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.145.1", "colnum": "145", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCOTLAND (INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Campbell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Campbell", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman and his colleagues may have been working on growth points then, but it must have been to a very minor degree. When the Toothill Committee made its investigation, one of its major recommendations was that the principle of growth areas should be accepted.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.145.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.157.3", "colnum": "157", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCOTLAND (INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Noble", "preceding_text": "Mr. Noble rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.157.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-26", "file": "debates1965-07-26a.xml", "sha256": "3cd43a473ac1aa60", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.157.8", "colnum": "157", "heading": "Orders of the Day — SCOTLAND (INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Member for Berwick and East Lothian (Sir W. Anstruther-Gray) spoke of the possibility of further help for Eyemouth Harbour—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-26a.157.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.212.4", "colnum": "212", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "preceding_text": "I thank my hon. Friend for that reply. I am glad that he and the computer industry realise that there is a great deal of skill and ability among women—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.212.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.212.5", "colnum": "212", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "On the first part of my hon. Friend's supplementary question, I would say that she proved her point a long time ago, as far as the abilities of married women are concerned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.212.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.224.5", "colnum": "224", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NUCLEAR WEAPONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Mr. Philip Noel-Baker.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.224.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.225.3", "colnum": "225", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NUCLEAR WEAPONS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "—although I think that some of the policies of the last Government stood in the way of that multilateral convention—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.225.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.227.3", "colnum": "227", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BALANCE OF PAYMENTS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "I am not going to ask the right hon. Gentleman about the degree of support which he gave to the measures which I took to defend sterling in 1961. However, are the measures which the Chancellor of the Exchequer will announce today well thought out, because we have not yet received a copy of the statement which the right hon. Gentleman is to make?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.227.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.233.3", "colnum": "233", "heading": "BALANCE OF PAYMENTS (GOVERNMENT MEASURES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "sts of the nation. The statement raises a number of questions, and the first is: will the right hon. Gentleman tell the House what is the total financial effect of all the measures he has announced? Secondly, is it not the case that the primary purpose of these further measures is to reassure foreign opinion? Does he realise that the lack of confidence that exists abroad is the direct consequence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.233.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.236.4", "colnum": "236", "heading": "BALANCE OF PAYMENTS (GOVERNMENT MEASURES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "We will, of course, support proper measures to defend sterling—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.236.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.237.2", "colnum": "237", "heading": "BALANCE OF PAYMENTS (GOVERNMENT MEASURES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Or on this side.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " and in the country, but, of course, we were not helped by hon. Members opposite telling the electorate that everything was all right. The effect on employment is a matter about which the whole Government, including, of course, myself, are very deeply concerned. We have not been in the Labour movement for many years to create a substantial measure of unemployment. Let there be no doubt about that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.237.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.240.3", "colnum": "240", "heading": "BALANCE OF PAYMENTS (GOVERNMENT MEASURES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wriggling\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " last part is certainly true, with the new systems of house building being developed. It is a great pity that they were left unused here for so long after other countries had developed them. May I say to the right hon. Gentleman that we shall have plenty of opportunities over the new few days to debate the detailed questions which he has put to me. I am sure that answers will be given to him then.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.240.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.257.5", "colnum": "257", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "preceding_text": "men in a pit. We had a case of a man who persistently, in the pithead baths, robbed his fellow workers' clothes and got away with it. He was prosecuted once when he was caught. We knew who the man was. He was prosecuted the second time. Under the Amendment I should commit an illegal act if I said to the colliery manager, \"Our chaps will not work with that fellow any longer. He must be got rid of\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.257.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.278.1", "colnum": "278", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "preceding_text": " action, because we now have a Labour Government. But the facts are that while the law remains as it stands, without being amended by the Bill, it can be invoked at any time. This is a very serious threat to the trade union movement. It is one that must be removed, and one that the Bill seeks to remove. I want to take up the question of the freedom of the individual. Freedom does not mean licence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.278.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.293.1", "colnum": "293", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": " seriously the threatening of shop stewards who warn employers in an effort to prevent strikes. This is a strange \"turn up for the book\". I mention, in passing, that our discussion of the Bill has been extremely friendly. I understand that some hon. Members were rather afraid that there might be, as a result of this discussion, some kind of verbal assault on another place. That has not eventuated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.293.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.298.3", "colnum": "298", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gower", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The same as doctors and lawyers?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gower", "preceding_text": "Yes, voluntary methods—and the knowledge that the union gives to its members. Nine willing members are worth 10 who are compelled. We have to weigh in the balance whether it is worse for 99 to be aggrieved because of one person in their industry or for one apparently helpless man, not backed up by a great organisation, to be drummed out of an industry in which he has any possible skill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.298.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.301.0", "colnum": "301", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Aidan Crawley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Aidan Crawley", "preceding_text": "consideration. After all, this House is absolute. It can do anything it likes in the end. To take a historical example, one of the things it has often done has been to vary the length of Parliament. There is no reason why the House should not pass a Measure extending the life of any Parliament to seven years, or 10 years, or indefinitely. That would raise a vitally important question of principle.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.301.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.301.0", "colnum": "301", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Aidan Crawley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Aidan Crawley", "preceding_text": "e so unbearable that he left his job. There are cases as hon. Members opposite know very well, of men who are sometimes much against their will obliged to pay funds to unofficial strike leaders, even though it may be against the rules of their union. There have been cases in which men who have refused to do this have not been supported by their union. There are all sorts of instances of this kind.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.301.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.302.1", "colnum": "302", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Give the details now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "preceding_text": "I have detailed facts of cases where this has happened. I will give the hon. Gentleman details later. These cases are very well known.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.302.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.302.3", "colnum": "302", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRADE DISPUTES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crawley", "preceding_text": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is why I was not going into any detail.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.302.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.384.5", "colnum": "384", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COMMONS REGISTRATION BILL [Lords]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mills", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Mills", "preceding_text": "ls should seek to preserve the amenities of the green. These are amenities for sport, for playing cricket and football. Many of us learned to play our games on village greens. Children can play there without being interfered with by traffic, and the pensioner can take a walk in comfort and safety. The green is very important for courting, too. I well remember my courting days on the village green.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.384.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-27", "file": "debates1965-07-27a.xml", "sha256": "4688f7846788ccaa", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.423.1", "colnum": "423", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PATENTS (EMPLOYEES' INVENTIONS) BILL [Lords]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Emery", "preceding_text": "ants and dock workers, a subject in which my hon. Friend has a constituency interest. My hon. Friend's first question is: are dock workers and civil servants covered by the Bill, or will they receive no greater benefit than that which they get at present? In other words, do the present contracts under which they serve stop them from benefiting from the provisions which apply to ordinary employees?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-27a.423.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.445.0", "colnum": "445", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "I can understand the right hon. Gentleman's confusion today after what happened to him yesterday—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.445.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.445.4", "colnum": "445", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "I do not recognise the difference—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.445.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.445.4", "colnum": "445", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "ON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—I do not. We are in a period of great economic stress. We have been advised many times by hon. and right hon. Gentlement opposite to make a cut in public spending. We have undertaken—the Chancellor made his statement to this effect yesterday—to do a holding operation on some projects which would have gone ahead in the next six months. Let us see how we get on and let us all do—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.445.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.453.1", "colnum": "453", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "Will the hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.453.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.454.3", "colnum": "454", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Goodhew", "preceding_text": "Is not the hon. Gentleman aware that the Labour Party suggested that they were poised and ready to swing many policies into action? It is no excuse for him to say that the Conservative Party did nothing for 13 years. What have hon. Gentlemen opposite been doing for 13 years?—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.454.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.463.2", "colnum": "463", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": " restraints that will have to be put upon certain traffic using those roads. I honestly believe that we shall get proper use of these busy streets, particularly in city centres, only by curtailing the use that can be made of them by commercial vehicles, I should have thought that not only commercial vehicles but private cars would have to suffer some restraint on the use they make of city streets—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.463.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.487.8", "colnum": "487", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "preceding_text": "f 6·6 per cent. We are back again to the same pace as took place in the period of office of the Labour Government after the war. Over these eight months, grocery prices are up 6 per cent., an annual rate of 9 per cent. There is not a sign of the Government's famous land price policy—not even a White Paper. Indeed, the Minister of Land and Natural Resources is not even attending this debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.487.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.487.8", "colnum": "487", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "preceding_text": "est of all, the Government must try to persuade the workers just how quickly earnings could rise and prices could fall if, and only if, workers would co-operate fully with good management—the good management that competition should produce. We on this side of the House believe in a high earning, low-cost, competitive, compassionate society. We want high earnings just as much as we want low costs.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.487.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.497.0", "colnum": "497", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"SO soon?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "preceding_text": "But the right hon. Gentleman—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.497.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.499.1", "colnum": "499", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": " in the circumstances of last winter? Would they have raised direct taxation more steeply? If so, I find it difficult to understand the point of all their votes against the Finance Bill throughout this spring and summer. Or do they want a tougher credit squeeze and still more hire purchase restrictions? If so, perhaps we could be told this afternoon. It does not seem as if we are to get an answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.499.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.521.1", "colnum": "521", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Dame Edith Pitt", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"That is true.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Edith Pitt", "preceding_text": "usekeeping since the General Election. Because she is a good manager and jots things down, she was able to tell me straight away. She had worked out that the extra cost was between 15s. and 20s. a week. I think that is the general pattern throughout the country. Her main grumble was about the cost of children's clothes. She said that they were as expensive in many cases as clothes for her husband.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.521.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.527.1", "colnum": "527", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "No, I will not give way. The hon. Member must listen.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.527.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.532.1", "colnum": "532", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Tinn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Tinn", "preceding_text": "on hon. Members opposite have said that he will never get over the next hurdle. Nevertheless, he has moved on and has set up machinery which is in strong contrast with the toothless tools of the last Government. He has secured agreement on objectives and the first cases have been referred to the Prices and Incomes Board, which has produced its first reports. The first results are already apparent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.532.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.558.1", "colnum": "558", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric S. Heffer", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"South-West.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric S. Heffer", "preceding_text": "nches opposite who are opposed to our views on this matter. After all, the right hon. Member for Enfield, West (Mr. Iain Macleod) said on 8th January last that it was impertinent of my right hon. Friend the First Secretary, having no knowledge of industry or business, to lecture industrialists and businessmen about their attitudes towards costs. The right hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.558.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.572.1", "colnum": "572", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Fifteen.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Walker", "preceding_text": "stified in trying to get for his goods or services, and that is the price which he believes will bring him the best return, and that it is his duty to get that price. By that standard, is it not therefore the duty of trade unionists to get the full benefits of their industrial power? But they are not as irresponsible as the right hon. Gentleman and the 20 hon. Members opposite who share his views.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.572.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.578.1", "colnum": "578", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": " the production figures rise? They rose, not during recent months, but during the first two or three months after the Government came to power. All the increase in production took place before December. Today, the latest figures show that industrial production is running one point lower than it was in January. Yet the President of the Board of Trade boasts of the Government's record in production.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.578.1", "colnum": "578", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": " to attend the wind up of the debate, for certainly his speech dealt with none of the basic problems concerned. It was also remarkable that in a debate on this subject there should have been no mention whatever of the general subject of savings. As my hon. Friend the Lady for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Dame Edith Pitt) pointed out, savings is of vital importance at a time when one is trying to release", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.578.1", "colnum": "578", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Come on, George.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "d up of the debate, for certainly his speech dealt with none of the basic problems concerned. It was also remarkable that in a debate on this subject there should have been no mention whatever of the general subject of savings. As my hon. Friend the Lady for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Dame Edith Pitt) pointed out, savings is of vital importance at a time when one is trying to release [ Interruption. ]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.578.1", "colnum": "578", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "ainly glad that the First Secretary has at last put in an appearance, and may I also give a welcome to the President of the Board of Trade, whom I now see entering the Chamber, who, having made his opening speech, has taken no interest in the debate all day. It is very good of him to arrive albeit, as always, a bit behind the times. As far as savings are concerned, the Chancellor of the Exchequer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.578.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.582.3", "colnum": "582", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "cue_text": "AN. HON. MEMBER: \"You will be finished.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "964; Vol. 699, c. 154.] What prophetic words they have proved to be. The increase in mortgages then was nothing compared to what it has been since right hon. Gentlemen opposite have been in power. He ended his speech by saying that the Government had failed. The failures he mentioned in his speech were insignificant compared to the failures of this Government in nine months. In five minutes' time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.582.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.585.0", "colnum": "585", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Labour (Mr. Ray Gunter)", "preceding_text": "x2026; to consider relations between managements and employees and the rôle of trade unions and employers' associations in promoting the interests of their members and in accelerating the social and economic advance of the nation. Therefore, I thought that I would immediately correct any misunderstanding that restrictive practices were outside the terms of reference of the Royal Commission.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.584.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.585.2", "colnum": "585", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What are they?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "preceding_text": "fully reflect the general considerations which have been agreed. We have said—and I repeat it—that the voluntary method will be given every chance before we try other methods. I believe, and the Government believe, despite the disappointments of the first twelve weeks, that the voluntary system can work and will work. If it does not work, then there will inevitably be some unpleasant alternatives.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.585.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.592.1", "colnum": "592", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "preceding_text": "I do not quite know the answer to that. I will have a look at it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.592.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.594.1", "colnum": "594", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "preceding_text": "On the question of public service pensions, there has been a lot of talk of pledges and counter-pledges. That is one of the curses of general elections. We all get confused", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.594.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.594.1", "colnum": "594", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "preceding_text": "On the question of public service pensions, there has been a lot of talk of pledges and counter-pledges. That is one of the curses of general elections. We all get confused [ Interruption. ]—but the real confusion, of course, is in the mind of the hon. Member for Worcester because there is nothing at all in the Labour Party manifesto about it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.594.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.595.5", "colnum": "595", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "preceding_text": "I understand that such a pledge was never given in terms of parity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.595.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.596.0", "colnum": "596", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "to Labour candidates at the General Election.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.596.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-28", "file": "debates1965-07-28a.xml", "sha256": "2f23fb9988f8a87e", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.596.2", "colnum": "596", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COST OF LIVING", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"Cannot hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gunter", "preceding_text": "I am very sorry to be in conflict with my hon. and learned Friend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-28a.596.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.671.2", "colnum": "671", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that the Automatic Telephone Co. is proposing to take a section of its works to Poole? Does not this cut across the declared policy of the Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.671.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.671.2", "colnum": "671", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that the Automatic Telephone Co. is proposing to take a section of its works to Poole? Does not this cut across the declared policy of the Government—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up.\"]—to expand work on Merseyside, which is a development area? Would my right hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.671.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.673.7", "colnum": "673", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speak up.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walker", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon Friend aware that some of us on this side have recently had discussions with the machine tool trade association—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.673.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.674.3", "colnum": "674", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gurden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speak up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gurden", "preceding_text": "Why does not the President of the Board of Trade publish monthly figures—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.674.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.676.7", "colnum": "676", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "No, Sir. I would not say that they had the full backing of the Cotton Board. This is a controversy in which any solution is bound to displease most of the parties concerned.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.676.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.678.10", "colnum": "678", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of the excessive quantities of cheap Danish poultry meat which are coming to this country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.678.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.679.1", "colnum": "679", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "Would not the stopping of these imports be a great help in correcting our imbalance of trade with Denmark?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.679.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.680.6", "colnum": "680", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — GOVERNMENT PAPERS (CLASSIFICATION)", "cue_speaker": "Viscount Lambton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Viscount Lambton", "preceding_text": "While I thank my right hon. Friend for that reply—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.680.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.694.1", "colnum": "694", "heading": "RESERVE ARMY (REORGANISATION)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "preceding_text": "my in limited war; and, thirdly, such reinforcements for N.A.T.O. as our commitments require. To meet these requirements, the Government propose a force of about 50,000 volunteer reservists. It will incorporate both the Territorial Army and the Army Emergency Reserve; and it might be called the Territorial Reserve. Volunteers of the Territorial Army have served this country well in two world wars.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.694.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.696.0", "colnum": "696", "heading": "RESERVE ARMY (REORGANISATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Soames", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Soames", "preceding_text": "hich he has made of the reforms that he has announced with those of Lord Haldane is totally false inasmuch as Lord Haldane created a Reserve Army and the right hon. Gentleman is destroying it? The reduction of the order which he announced spells effectively the end of the Territorial Army as we have known it and of the safeguards which it provides for the nation to meet any unforeseen eventuality.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.696.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.699.0", "colnum": "699", "heading": "RESERVE ARMY (REORGANISATION)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hugh Fraser", "preceding_text": "The House must be somewhat amazed by the dogmatism which the right hon. Gentleman has displayed about the likely future pattern of war. I hope that he has read what Lord Montgomery said, namely, that only one thing is certain about war and that is its uncertainty. I hope that the right hon. Gentleman will look again at this question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.699.0"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.715.0", "colnum": "715", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "ho it was known at the time would be the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the event of the Labour Party gaining power—and who is today, in fact, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He could hardly have made himself clearer when he said in his speech on the eve of the poll: The whole basis of our case is that increased social expenditure will be financed out of the growing expansion of British industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.714.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.715.2", "colnum": "715", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "Before hon. Gentlemen opposite cheer, there is a little more of that quotation. As if to make doubly sure that he got the votes he was seeking, he rammed home the point with these words: As far as we are concerned, the fulfilment of our social programme depends upon the achievement of a faster rate of growth in the economy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.715.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.715.6", "colnum": "715", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "The right hon. Gentleman says, \"Hear, hear\", but what is the simple truth? What has actually happened? Within six months of taking office the right hon. Gentleman had increased taxation by no less than £500 million a year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.715.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.715.7", "colnum": "715", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "Hon. Gentlemen opposite need not worry. I will be coming to the economic situation in a few moments. There is not an hon. Member in the House who would pretend that if the country had known last October what was in store for it the Labour Party would have won the three crucial marginal seats which now give the Government their only authority to govern.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.715.7"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.717.0", "colnum": "717", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Get on.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " why nothing has been done. We all realise that the Government, as promised, have set up an inquiry, but during the election campaign the right hon. Gentleman who sits on the Front Bench opposite, sniggering next to the Prime Minister, the First Secretary, went out of his way to deal with this very point. I hope that the First Secretary will take note of what he said. Perhaps he does not remember.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.716.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.720.1", "colnum": "720", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " Housing and Local Government said that there was no time, but the whole world knows that but for the courageous action of a handful of hon. Members opposite the Prime Minister certainly took the view that there was time in this Session to nationalise the steel industry, and certainly there was time for a Finance Bill, which most people now agree was largely irrelevant to the difficulties we face—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.720.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.720.3", "colnum": "720", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " ensure that everyone has enough to live on as of right and without recourse to National Assistance. This will come without delay. The Prime Minister, I understand, is to speak next in this debate, and on this matter, the whole country—or at least the millions who were enticed by that pledge—are entitled to the answer from the right hon. Gentleman himself. And let us have no more of this nonsense—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.720.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.723.1", "colnum": "723", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We will be.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "y hon. Friend the Member for Abingdon (Mr. Neave), which, the House will remember, was intended to give the old-age pension to a quarter of a million men and women who are at present excluded, was the impending income guarantee scheme. As the scheme is now to be deferred for at least a year, perhaps the Prime Minister will tell us whether, next session, the Government, if they are still in office—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.723.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.724.3", "colnum": "724", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "I cannot give way. I do not want to take too long.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.724.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.724.7", "colnum": "724", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member will not alter my speech one iota—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.724.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.724.7", "colnum": "724", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "ecause he has dealt with it in the past, to set up four new medical schools at least. I was Minister of Health at the time when that pledge was given and I know the impact which it made on the family doctor. Perhaps the Prime Minister will tell us when he speaks whether this pledge is also discarded. What about the hospital building programme? The Prime Minister, in his election address, promised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.724.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.724.7", "colnum": "724", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "s at least. I was Minister of Health at the time when that pledge was given and I know the impact which it made on the family doctor. Perhaps the Prime Minister will tell us when he speaks whether this pledge is also discarded. What about the hospital building programme? The Prime Minister, in his election address, promised—[ Interruption. ] I wish that the First Secretary would stop interrupting.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.724.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.725.1", "colnum": "725", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "t because it is relevant to the question of election pledges. On Tuesday, the Chancellor in his statement, discarded one pledge after another. To the Prime Minister and to the two hon. Members who have intervened, I say that the time has now passed, for reasons which I will explain, when anyone in his right senses can any longer accept as an excuse the reference back to the situation last October.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.725.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.729.1", "colnum": "729", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.729.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.741.3", "colnum": "741", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Cooke", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.741.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.741.6", "colnum": "741", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "cost of living was the subject of a censure Motion yesterday. This point about postal charges was mentioned. The right hon. Member mentioned cost of living. I want to know if, even after yesterday, we can be told whether the Opposition knew that there was a deficit of £100 million and that postal charges would have to go up. As a member of the Cabinet, did the right hon. Member know or did he not?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.741.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.750.0", "colnum": "750", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Divide.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ere is not time, or circumstances change. But is it not for our convenience to have a lot to play with, and surely it costs nothing to a party seeking a change or a new deal?\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 7th February, 1951; Vol. 483, c. 1748.] That is Conservative doctrine. We have had 13 years in which full acceptance of it was put into practice. For our part, this is our manifesto, and we shall honour it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.745.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.766.4", "colnum": "766", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shore", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shore", "preceding_text": "f State only a year ago made a decision in April, 1964, which he knew, the nation knew and the world knew was wrong and then failed to correct his judgment, as events showed just how false that judgment was—I can only feel a great deal of anger that such criticisms are made against my right hon. Friend. In this debate, we on this side are not quite certain whether we are answering serious charges.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.766.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.805.1", "colnum": "805", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Evans", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Evans", "preceding_text": "entleman the Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Mr. Powell). One of the revelations of the recent exercise in which they have been involved has been that the other party is making progress as far as that attitude is concerned. We must look at what action has been taken by the Government to influence international events. First, we had the establishment of a Minister responsible for disarmament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.805.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.805.1", "colnum": "805", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Evans", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"And our money\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Evans", "preceding_text": " war in Vietnam. They want the Commonwealth to play a greater part, as it should since it represents a quarter of the world's population, in solving the world's problems. Our greatness will not be measured by military might or by possession of the so-called independent nuclear deterrent on which the Conservative Party spent so much time in its last years of office in trying to convince the people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.805.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.810.4", "colnum": "810", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "preceding_text": " there was no secret about the trade figures last September. To assert that those figures were being handled, as the hon. Member apparently thinks, by M.I.5 is not really credible. I invite the House and I invite hon. Members opposite to agree to two statements. First of all, that during the election, when the Labour Party was making these promises, it knew of the state of the balance of payments.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.810.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.811.1", "colnum": "811", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Like Ferranti.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Curran", "preceding_text": "t the Labour Party, by its very nature, is opposed to capitalism and is therefore not prepared to let the profit motive flourish as it should. We can see that from the speeches we have had today. If we want this country to be more prosperous, we have to stimulate the profit motive. That is how capitalism works. It works, not by promoting egalitarianism but by making some people richer than others.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.811.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.815.0", "colnum": "815", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is he?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iain Macleod", "preceding_text": "man referred was the income guarantee. He said: with the exception of the early introduction of an income guarantee the key factor will be the rate at which the British economy can advance. According to the Prime Minister's own election address, An income guarantee will ensure that everyone has enough to live on as a right, and without recourse to National Assistance. This will come without delay.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.814.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.815.1", "colnum": "815", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"About white fish?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "He will not come without delay. A number of questions were asked of the Prime Minister, some of which I propose to go over again because he made not attempt, in an hour-long speech, to answer them. Let me take, first, the question that was put to him by my right hon. Friend—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.815.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.820.0", "colnum": "820", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "all the ludicrous ideas, of putting our heavy tanks into Cyprus. A few days ago Anthony Howard, in his article \"Battle of the Finance Bill\", said that Harold Wilson told him: It was rather like marching your troops through a long deep valley with the enemy ranged on the mountain tops on either side. We were fighting them on their own ground and in the worst possible conditions. But we won through.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.817.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.820.3", "colnum": "820", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": ". But I think that behind all the broken promises there is a much more serious weakness in the Government. I believe that the Government are day by day getting further and further out of touch with the ordinary feelings of the ordinary people. They are out of touch because they understand nothing. They have all the statistics, and maybe they have the good intentions, but they have not the ability.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.820.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.822.1", "colnum": "822", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Education and Science (Mr. Anthony Crosland)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The Queen's Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Education and Science (Mr. Anthony Crosland)", "preceding_text": "olous. It appears to imply that the Government are under an obligation to carry out an entire five-year programme in a single year. It appears to imply that in one single year the Labour Party is to correct all the sins and omissions of the last 13 years. It can hardly be seriously maintained that a pledge is broken if it is not carried out in the first year of what will be a five-year Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.822.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.822.1", "colnum": "822", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Education and Science (Mr. Anthony Crosland)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Queen's Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Education and Science (Mr. Anthony Crosland)", "preceding_text": "ing, for example, in the Tory manifesto the promise to build or rebuild 300 hospitals. Despite the fact that they must have known that the economic crisis was developing more and more seriously throughout the year, they did nothing to warn the country or their own supporters of how serious matters were. The right hon. Gentleman managed to make a speech on this topic without even referring to this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.822.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.825.1", "colnum": "825", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "I will give way to the hon. Gentlemen later. I could go on to quote the right hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Barber), who said that the nation was duped. Certainly the nation was duped, but it was duped not by my party but by the party opposite, and of course the nation is still being duped—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.825.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.826.1", "colnum": "826", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "I do not believe that the right hon. Gentleman said that in Washington.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.826.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.826.2", "colnum": "826", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "preceding_text": "rty voted against the means of raising pensions. That is completely untrue. In the annual report for 1964, issued last week by the right hon. Lady the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance, it is shown quite clearly that contributions were raised by £187 million for the year 1965–66 and the extra cost of the higher pension was £181 million and we voted for the increased contributions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.826.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.826.2", "colnum": "826", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "preceding_text": "the means of raising pensions. That is completely untrue. In the annual report for 1964, issued last week by the right hon. Lady the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance, it is shown quite clearly that contributions were raised by £187 million for the year 1965–66 and the extra cost of the higher pension was £181 million and we voted for the increased contributions. [ Interruption. ]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.826.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.826.3", "colnum": "826", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You said that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "Certainly I will answer. Does the right hon. Gentleman seriously suggest that it would have been the advice of the party opposite to raise pensions to the extent that we did without a penny on any other form of taxation?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.826.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.827.1", "colnum": "827", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "omprehensive system, the 13 per cent. salary rise for teachers, which carries out what we said in the Queen's Speech and what we said in our election manifesto. As far as higher and further education is concerned, to answer the question of the right hon. Gentleman, we will stick to the Robbins and the Henniker Heaton targets and are confident, despite the Chancellor's statement, of achieving them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.827.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.828.0", "colnum": "828", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "For right hon. and hon. Members opposite to start talking about university starts—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.828.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.828.0", "colnum": "828", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"And putting 6d. on Income Tax.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "with social reform, and that is the question of taxation—and I am still on the pledges which we made and which we have carried out. Another of our pledges was that we would make the tax system juster and fairer than it is now. This pledge also we have carried out by introducing the Capital Gains Tax, which hon. Members opposite certainly would not have done, and by introducing the Corporation Tax.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.828.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.828.0", "colnum": "828", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "nd which we have carried out. Another of our pledges was that we would make the tax system juster and fairer than it is now. This pledge also we have carried out by introducing the Capital Gains Tax, which hon. Members opposite certainly would not have done, and by introducing the Corporation Tax. [An HON. MEMBER: \"And putting 6d. on Income Tax.\"] Yes, in order to pay for the increase in pensions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.828.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.829.5", "colnum": "829", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "I have given way a great deal more than the right hon. Member for Enfield, West did. That is the difference between our policies in the economic field and those of the Conservatives.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.829.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.829.5", "colnum": "829", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Read it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "I have given way a great deal more than the right hon. Member for Enfield, West did. That is the difference between our policies in the economic field and those of the Conservatives. [ Interruption. ] What is the fuss about the Queen's Speech?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.829.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.829.5", "colnum": "829", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "ite need not worry about steel. I know how keen the party opposite is on steel. There is no change in the Government's policy on steel. The party opposite will find that our policy comes forward in due time. The party opposite will also find that every one of the few items in the Queen's Speech which was not carried through in this Session of Parliament will come in the next Session of Parliament.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.829.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.830.1", "colnum": "830", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "—over 13 long years was the appalling desecration which they allowed of the British coastline and countryside.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.830.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.830.1", "colnum": "830", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "y planning policy to do something to save those bits of Britain which the previous Government allowed to be desecrated. I am delighted that even though hon. Members opposite do not care—although some of them, I happen to know, do care—one of the Chancellor's first acts, despite our balance of payments difficulty, was to make a large contribution to Enterprise Neptune to save the British coastline.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.830.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.830.1", "colnum": "830", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crosland", "preceding_text": "on. Members opposite do not care—although some of them, I happen to know, do care—one of the Chancellor's first acts, despite our balance of payments difficulty, was to make a large contribution to Enterprise Neptune to save the British coastline. [ Interruption. ] I have a particular interest in white fish. White fish was the one single constructive intervention which I heard from the other side.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.830.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.832.4", "colnum": "832", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LABOUR PARTY (ELECTION PLEDGES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McMaster", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.832.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.846.10", "colnum": "846", "heading": "Orders of the Day — REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS, DEATHS AND MARRIAGES (SCOTLAND) BILL [Lords]", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Hart", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Hart", "preceding_text": "and and Wales on possible modifications and improvements which we might be able to make to meet some of the difficulties which he mentioned. These discussions will go on. I do not know how long they will take, but we shall certainly pursue this matter as vigorously as we can. The hon. Member also asked what would happen when someone died and his body had to go one way or the other over the Border.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.846.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-29", "file": "debates1965-07-29a.xml", "sha256": "5f834cc6e54836d2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.864.0", "colnum": "864", "heading": "Orders of the Day — INDUSTRIAL TRAINING LEVY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marsh", "preceding_text": "lutionary change. I conclude on the note on which we started—or, perhaps, on a rather different one. No one disputes the right hon. Gentleman's contribution in this field when he was Minister of Labour. No one could dispute that he introduced the Bill, but I believe that if the party opposite had had the administration of this Bill, they would not have done what we have done or what we want to do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-29a.864.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-30", "file": "debates1965-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "b614c413ace3486b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-30a.909.3", "colnum": "909", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "preceding_text": "I am sure that in saying that the proceedings so far are satisfactory, my hon. Friend includes in his remarks, as I do myself, thanks to my hon. Friend the Minister of State, who did a most useful job.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-30a.909.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-30", "file": "debates1965-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "b614c413ace3486b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-30a.911.6", "colnum": "911", "heading": "FISHING INDUSTRY (SUBSIDIES AND GRANTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "ches made from both sides of the House confirming this principle. I turn now from subsidies to other developments in policy for the fishing industry. Hon. Members will have seen the Report of the White Fish Authority which contains a very valuable review of the past year. I am sure I can speak for the industry as well as the Government when I acknowledge our debt to the Chairman, Mr. Roy Matthews—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-30a.911.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-30", "file": "debates1965-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "b614c413ace3486b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-30a.961.2", "colnum": "961", "heading": "FISHING INDUSTRY (SUBSIDIES AND GRANTS)", "cue_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Dame Irene Ward", "preceding_text": "s who know something about the subject. So often in government Ministers read briefs and they hardly know what the words that are coming from their mouths mean. I am very delighted that this Minister is to reply to the debate. The Minister of Agriculture and the Minister of Education should get together and decide what the Ministry of Education should do to advertise fish as a food in the schools.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-30a.961.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-07-30", "file": "debates1965-07-30a.xml", "sha256": "b614c413ace3486b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-30a.970.1", "colnum": "970", "heading": "FISHING INDUSTRY (SUBSIDIES AND GRANTS)", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. James Hoy)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is abusive.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. James Hoy)", "preceding_text": "can be done to prevent similar occurrences in the future. The question of a minimum prices scheme is of fundamental importance to the industry. The only dispute I have with the right hon. Member for Argyll (Mr. Noble) on this is about who consumes the most fish and I am willing to challenge him on it. I am ready to welcome him as a pillar of the fishing industry—perhaps I should call him a \"slab\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-07-30a.970.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1040.2", "colnum": "1040", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Send Warbey.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Binns", "preceding_text": "In view of the criticism by hon. Members opposite of this initiative, have they yet accepted the challenge of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to tell us how they would have made approaches to Vietnam without diplomatic relationships?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1040.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1043.2", "colnum": "1043", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Is my hon. Friend aware that he is neither entitled not competent to change the decisions that were reached at the Scarborough Conference?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1043.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1057.0", "colnum": "1057", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — STATE VISITS (PROCESSIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lipton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lipton", "preceding_text": "Will my hon. Friend bear in mind that it took about 15 years to persuade the powers that be to have the Lord Mayor's Show and Trooping the Colour on a Saturday and that they have been very much enjoyed by millions of people in London? Why should there be this differentiation and this insistence upon having State drives on weekdays? There are still plenty of people in London at the weekend.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1057.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1062.2", "colnum": "1062", "heading": "COMMONWEALTH IMMIGRATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "in with work permits come in for only a matter of months—in fact, 75 per cent.—and they return in the first year. With regard to what the right hon. Gentleman said about a change of policy of the Government, I think that he is referring to 1962. He will recall that at that time we were discussing entry into the Common Market, when any alien would be free to enter this country in any circumstances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1062.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1070.3", "colnum": "1070", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": " have seen that, although there have been improvements from time to time, sterling has not yet made the firm, stable recovery which the Prime Minister and the Government rightly want to see. But the additional indebtedness is 2·4 billion dollars of indebtedness to the I.M.F. which has to be repaid. When I heard the Secretary of State for Education and Science, who alas is not with us today—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1070.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1070.3", "colnum": "1070", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": " of creating additional international monetary liquidity does not look promising. This too, is a fact which has to be borne in mind today. No doubt the House will agree that I was right to describe as a serious economic situation that with which we and the country are faced. The question which I want to ask now—this is relevant to the Motion—is how the Government come to be in this position today—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1070.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1070.3", "colnum": "1070", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the £800 million?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "as right to describe as a serious economic situation that with which we and the country are faced. The question which I want to ask now—this is relevant to the Motion—is how the Government come to be in this position today—[ Laughter. ] I notice that it is not the Prime Minister who is smiling. This is why it is essential to look at the detailed record of the Government since they came into power—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1070.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1077.1", "colnum": "1077", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "l overseas observers already. But there are two things which flow from this. First, of all, if he intended to use that figure, he should have explained the context and the make-up to the people of the country and, secondly, if all the overesas bankers and others knew the figures already, is it not plain that they had complete confidence in my right hon. Friend the Member for Barnet (Mr. Maudling)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1077.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1082.1", "colnum": "1082", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheer up.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ose steps are not sufficient in the short term to achieve the results which he wants, is he prepared to take still further measures? Secondly, is he himself not anxious that, in the long term, the reductions in Government expenditure which he is proposing will add to the existing signs of a downfall of investment and cause a very considerable down-turn in production, which will affect the country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1082.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1084.1", "colnum": "1084", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "hat what they were doing was to safeguard sterling. The Government have never set out to make their economy a competitive one. Indeed, they have made it more protectionist. They have protected it through their surcharges; they have protected it through their action on coal; and they have protected it through their action on the airlines. In all those ways they have made it a protectionist economy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1084.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1085.3", "colnum": "1085", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": " by the Minister of Labour when he was winding up the debate on Wednesday night. The Minister, who is a man of great courage, said: The real problem which faces this nation is that many people abroad are beginning to lose faith in the British people and their ability to adjust and adapt themselves.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 28th July, 1965; Vol. 717, c. 585.] We have not lost faith in the British people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1085.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1090.1", "colnum": "1090", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "ey can to increase overseas receipts. We have acted indirectly on the balance of payments through the economy by our monetary and credit policies, by the fiscal measures of both Budgets and by the curbs on central and local government spending recently announced. It is to ease the excess pressure on demand and to redeploy resources towards exports and import saving that this action has been taken.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1090.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1096.1", "colnum": "1096", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "he right hon. and learned Gentleman to talk about us \"pledging\" these assets or \"putting them in pawn,\" which was his elegant phrase. I have already said clearly to the House that these assets have not been used. They are lying in a separate account in New York and will stay there until transferred. But it is not for the right hon. and learned Gentleman to talk about putting the economy into pawn.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1096.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1098.1", "colnum": "1098", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Selwyn Lloyd", "preceding_text": "I have made no suggestion that these assets have already been used. If the right hon. Gentleman will read my speech he will see that I referred to three different matters.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1098.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1102.0", "colnum": "1102", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " forward to this, but he had the misfortune to be doing it in an election year—was to add up the sums. I have done a rather different exercise. With the aid of my colleagues we added up the sums and we allocated the priorities and we saw where it was possible to add something on. If we added something on to one programme we had to subtract it from another. Did the right hon. Gentleman do that? No.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1102.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1107.0", "colnum": "1107", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": " which can only be described as slighting. They were not calculated to encourage the efforts which everybody must make if we are to get a prices and incomes policy which will avoid deflation and unemployment. I hope that it will be agreed that I have avoided much reference to the last 13 years, but they have been very present in my mind, as they always are. We can at least say that the Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1107.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1107.0", "colnum": "1107", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Is it three?\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "lation and unemployment. I hope that it will be agreed that I have avoided much reference to the last 13 years, but they have been very present in my mind, as they always are. We can at least say that the Government—[ Interruption. ] It is all very well to be bold in opposition. It should be much easier for a party with a majority of 100 to be bold when it is in power. We have a majority of three.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1107.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1107.0", "colnum": "1107", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "tion. ] It is all very well to be bold in opposition. It should be much easier for a party with a majority of 100 to be bold when it is in power. We have a majority of three. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Is it three?\".] I hope that it is theoretically three, anyway. I remember how the Opposition dodged the problem of the liner trains, pushed it away under the rug, failed to tell the country what was happening—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1107.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1107.0", "colnum": "1107", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "t Greenwich on 3rd September, 1964, when he dealt with what he called the 10 major election issues—five at home and five away—up-to-date factories, regional development, N.A.T.O., East-West relations, and the rest. He outlined the 10 major problems which we had to face—and he did not even mention the balance of payments, not once. We were then facing the biggest deficit which this country has had.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1107.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1119.1", "colnum": "1119", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Clifford Williams", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Clifford Williams", "preceding_text": "It is with great trepidation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1119.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1147.1", "colnum": "1147", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Donnelly", "preceding_text": "ailways are not a social service. They are a means of transportation. The same principle is true of all the major industries. The social services are something quite separate, but there must be a socially responsible approach, which is quite a different matter. This brings me to the third facet of my remarks, which is the overall sense of national strategy. What I am proposing is a radical change—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1147.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1175.2", "colnum": "1175", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rees", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rees", "preceding_text": "to solve the economic problem. If that is the policy which is to be followed by hon. Members opposite, then with a return to full employment there will be strikes, and more strikes, because of the uncertainty which will have been created in industry. More attention has got to be given to status, better management and better industrial relations. Then we shall achieve undreamed of success. Finally—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1175.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1175.2", "colnum": "1175", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rees", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rees", "preceding_text": "the Government will succeed, because they have not merely deflated. They have considered the social scene as well. We live in a country where there is a great deal of snobbery and inequality. Only when we give attention to those matters as well as to the economic side of things will we eventually succeed. It was recently suggested that the Labour Party is not firm in its support of the Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1175.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1177.1", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Reginald Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Reginald Maudling", "preceding_text": " they faced a deficit of £800 million. Both are wholly untrue. All the facts about the balance of payments—I hope that the Prime Minister will listen to this—were published regularly. If right hon. Gentlemen opposite were facing a deficit of £800 million, this could have been only because they were looking backwards, as three-quarters of it and more was dealt with by the time they came into power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1177.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1177.1", "colnum": "1177", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Reginald Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Reginald Maudling", "preceding_text": "alance of payments were published regularly, without hesitation and without amendment. I challenge the Prime Minister once again, as I have in the past, though with no greater hope than in the past that I shall get an answer, to produce a single example of any regular statistics about the balance of payments which were amended, delayed, altered or suppressed at any time by the previous Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1177.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1179.0", "colnum": "1179", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I have just heard an hon. Member on the Opposition benches below the Gangway accuse the Prime Minister of being a twister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1179.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1179.2", "colnum": "1179", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "I just want to know one simple thing from the Prime Minister. When he referred to \"publication in the middle of the night\", was he accusing me of ordering the Civil Service to publish at the least conspicuous time, or was he accusing them of doing it?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1179.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1182.0", "colnum": "1182", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "By the first quarter of 1965 the deficit on current account had been completely eliminated and no one, not even the First Secretary of State in his wildest flight of imagination, could pretend that that had anything to do with the present Government. If evidence is required, I ask the Prime Minister to study the evidence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1182.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1", "colnum": "1186", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the debate.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "y that, taking all the speeches in the censure Motion debates, I thought that that of the right hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Barber), the former Minister of Health, did the best service for his party and that that was the best. Referring to the maiden speech, if I may put it in that way, of the Leader of the Opposition, we are very grateful to him for one memorable phrase. He referred—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1", "colnum": "1186", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": " to the right hon. Gentleman for that memorable phrase about \"the tortoise in the tank\". I must say that I liked that. I liked it the first time I saw it in a Sunday Citizen cartoon on 27th June. I am sure that the House will always be ready to hear the right hon. Gentleman again, especially if he keeps reminding us of that phrase. I will now deal with the right hon. Gentleman's speech. I thought—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1", "colnum": "1186", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What about the Government's policy?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "e later when he referred to Britain's place in the world and when he made his statement about the need for new attitudes in industry. He did not, in fact, get near at this stage—we understand this—to giving us a policy, although as long ago as last March he told us that he had the election programme ready. Today, we thought that we would see something of it. Nevertheless, we have a few statements—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1", "colnum": "1186", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "rties, have been unable of themselves to deal with the industrial shortcomings. Some of the policies that have been followed have intensified our industrial shortcomings by deterring new investment in industry and then, through causing stagnation, under-employment and under-capacity working, discouraging innovation, discouraging risk-taking and enterprise, driving employers and trade associations—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1", "colnum": "1186", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "mbers will take this seriously and try to follow the argument. Short-term measures have driven employers and trade associations, on the one hand, and workers and trade unions, on the other, into a short-sighted but understandable reliance on restrictive practices. I believe that this has happened repeatedly, and I should be less than frank with the House if I did not refer to the margin of danger—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1", "colnum": "1186", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What was the first?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "e margin of danger—[ Laughter. ] We are trying today—I though that this was the purpose of the debate—to deal with the future of Britain and its industrial problems. There are some hon. Members, on both sides, to whom this subject matters. We are entitled, on both sides, to say what we think about it. Those hon. Members who are not concerned can go to the Smoke Room or to the bar. My second point—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1", "colnum": "1186", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "debate—to deal with the future of Britain and its industrial problems. There are some hon. Members, on both sides, to whom this subject matters. We are entitled, on both sides, to say what we think about it. Those hon. Members who are not concerned can go to the Smoke Room or to the bar. My second point—[An HON. MEMBER: \"What was the first?\"] Those who were listening heard it—is that the solution—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1186.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1188.1", "colnum": "1188", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "actices—by its very nature it could work only so long as the under-capacity working continued. Once we sought to expand, and as elections drew near, there seemed to be a reluctance to tolerate the unemployment which had developed. There was a new desire to reflate and expand and, as we expanded, imports rose, exports were affected and the whole weary four-year cycle began again. It is quite clear—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1188.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1189.1", "colnum": "1189", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"Answer our questions.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "the Government on these fundamental questions that were raised by the Leader of the Opposition—incomes policy, restrictive practices, training for skill. Do hon. Members want to hear this or not? This is the best possible argument for the televising of Parliament. If there is one thing hon. Gentlemen opposite cannot stand to hear at the end of a debate it is the truth about our economic position.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1189.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1190.2", "colnum": "1190", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The docks?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "itive in world markets, to venture into export markets. We are told that 300 firms account for half of our total exports; and we have, of course, the familiar problems of delivery dates, delivery dates which are too long, delivery dates which are not honoured when they are fixed, after-sales servicing, spares, lack of attention to orders, unanswered letters, failure to submit tenders and the rest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1190.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1190.2", "colnum": "1190", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " Shipbuilding orders in the first half of this year are the highest for eight years. Perhaps the biggest challenge and the biggest opportunity that we face will come now that the Government have received the Devlin Report on the docks. My right hon. Friend will be making a statement before the House adjourns and the Report will be in the hands of hon. Members before the House adjourns on Thursday.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1190.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1190.2", "colnum": "1190", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "and the biggest opportunity that we face will come now that the Government have received the Devlin Report on the docks. My right hon. Friend will be making a statement before the House adjourns and the Report will be in the hands of hon. Members before the House adjourns on Thursday. [ Interruption. ] We received it at the end of last week. We have not wasted time. This Report is highly relevant.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1190.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1190.2", "colnum": "1190", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "will be in the hands of hon. Members before the House adjourns on Thursday. [ Interruption. ] We received it at the end of last week. We have not wasted time. This Report is highly relevant. [ Interruption. ] I remember the right hon. Gentleman holding up the publication of a Monopolies Commision report for 10 months. Our record is not very bad on the Devlin Report. This Report is highly relevant.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1190.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " demanded an election. In that, he was willing to put the economic strength of the country above his party interests. But what about the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition? He knew the economic situation as thoroughly as the then Chancellor did. Did he join in those warnings, did he join in those demands for an early election so that action could be taken? What we are talking about—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "t we are talking about—[ Interruption. ] I do not think that it comes very well from right hon. Gentlemen, who, knowing that action was needed, postponed the election, to talk about this today. It is not only the conduct of the last 13 years, it is the conduct of the last nine to 10 months which we are dealing with today. The Leader of the Opposition condemned the actions we took on taking office.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ned the actions we took on taking office. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] But the right hon. Member for Barnet at that time said that this was his diagnosis and these were his remedies. Those were his words. I want to ask whether this was not the diagnosis and these the remedies of the Leader of the Opposition, or had he even then started the process of competitively undercutting each of his rivals?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "her this was not the diagnosis and these the remedies of the Leader of the Opposition, or had he even then started the process of competitively undercutting each of his rivals? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"] I want to ask the right hon. Gentleman what action he would have taken in the situation which the country was facing last October. If he was opposed to surcharges, was he in favour of import quotas?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ad he even then started the process of competitively undercutting each of his rivals? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"] I want to ask the right hon. Gentleman what action he would have taken in the situation which the country was facing last October. If he was opposed to surcharges, was he in favour of import quotas? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"] I want to put this straight to the right hon. Gentleman because—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So did you.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "traight to the right hon. Gentleman because—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I know that hon. Members opposite want to protect him, but we are going to have an answer on this. The right hon. Member talks all the time as though an £800 million deficit was not serious until people started to talk about it. I want to ask him this. He and his colleagues knew the facts last October; they knew what had to be done—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the debate.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ight hon. Member talks all the time as though an £800 million deficit was not serious until people started to talk about it. I want to ask him this. He and his colleagues knew the facts last October; they knew what had to be done—[An HON. MEMBER: \"So did you.\"]—but the right hon. Member for Barnet told us that he did not know that it was worse than £600 million. In those weeks during the election—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "erious until people started to talk about it. I want to ask him this. He and his colleagues knew the facts last October; they knew what had to be done—[An HON. MEMBER: \"So did you.\"]—but the right hon. Member for Barnet told us that he did not know that it was worse than £600 million. In those weeks during the election—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the debate.\"] I am answering the debate. In those weeks—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.1", "colnum": "1196", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.5", "colnum": "1196", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "aring emergency action for dealing with this situation. I do not know whether their Cabinet colleagues knew, but the right hon. Gentleman knew. When we came into office we found that men who a day or two before on the hustings were denying the gravity of the situation had prepared for immediate introduction two alternative schemes, one for the surcharge and one for a total system of import quotas—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.7", "colnum": "1196", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I want to ask the right hon. Gentleman whether he denies that in his Department, while he was making those speeches, and under his authority, a system of complete quantitative regulation of our import trade was being prepared, which was on our table when we came in, for immediate introduction—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.10", "colnum": "1196", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "This is absolutely typical of everything which has characterised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.10", "colnum": "1196", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "This is absolutely typical of everything which has characterised—[ Interruption. ] To raise a point at two minutes to ten—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.10", "colnum": "1196", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "This is absolutely typical of everything which has characterised—[ Interruption. ] To raise a point at two minutes to ten—[ interruption. ]—when there is no opportunity whatever to discuss it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.10", "colnum": "1196", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "This is absolutely typical of everything which has characterised—[ Interruption. ] To raise a point at two minutes to ten—[ interruption. ]—when there is no opportunity whatever to discuss it—[ Interruption. ] The situation is well known; that the last Government instructed officials to examine every possibility—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1196.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1197.2", "colnum": "1197", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "Any Government would have been wise to examine those possibilities—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1197.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1198.0", "colnum": "1198", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MOTION OF CENSURE", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "any kind were taken, as the Prime Minister knows full well—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1198.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-02", "file": "debates1965-08-02a.xml", "sha256": "614164b49f98e33c", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1203.5", "colnum": "1203", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MONOPOLIES AND MERGERS BILL", "cue_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Mr. Douglas Jay)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The President of the Board of Trade (Mr. Douglas Jay)", "preceding_text": "I beg to move, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-02a.1203.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1265.0", "colnum": "1265", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Yes, certainly, and I hope the right hon. Gentleman will give straight answers to the questions I put to him last night and last Thursday.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1265.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1265.1", "colnum": "1265", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer the question.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Yes, certainly, and I hope the right hon. Gentleman will give straight answers to the questions I put to him last night and last Thursday. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the Question.\"] So far as the question is concerned I shall be very happy to send the right hon. Gentleman a copy of the resolution. I have it here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1265.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1270.5", "colnum": "1270", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "I am glad to be able to ask this Question, because the other day when the Minister of State at the Foreign Office appeared to move his party's programme on this a little further towards the Common Market the Chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party rebuked him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1270.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1290.5", "colnum": "1290", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "I will not go into details, but I opposed it. The hon. Gentleman did not support me and I could not get enough Tellers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1290.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1294.1", "colnum": "1294", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Marcus Lipton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Marcus Lipton", "preceding_text": "f Dudley Williams) is really an argument for having a much longer Recess than that which is mentioned in the Motion. If that is the kind of contribution that he intends to make to our Parliamentary proceedings, Parliament should adjourn for a much longer period. Of course, this Motion provides additional opportunity for hon. Members opposite to give vent to a large amount of synthetic indignation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1294.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1306.1", "colnum": "1306", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "First—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1306.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1306.1", "colnum": "1306", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Which conflict?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "First—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I shall certainly say quite a lot—I should have thought that after President Johnson's speech, which was broadcast throughout the United States and has underlined that the United States feels that manpower will be essential if the Korean conflict—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1306.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1306.1", "colnum": "1306", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "First—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I shall certainly say quite a lot—I should have thought that after President Johnson's speech, which was broadcast throughout the United States and has underlined that the United States feels that manpower will be essential if the Korean conflict—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Which conflict?\"]—the Vietnam conflict develops, as it might well do, into a sort of Korea issue—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1306.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1306.1", "colnum": "1306", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "esident Johnson's speech, which was broadcast throughout the United States and has underlined that the United States feels that manpower will be essential if the Korean conflict—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Which conflict?\"]—the Vietnam conflict develops, as it might well do, into a sort of Korea issue—[ Interruption. ] The right hon. Member for Easington (Mr. E. Shinwell), who in 1951 was Minister of Defence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1306.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1309.1", "colnum": "1309", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I have just discovered that the meeting at which I was expected to be present, and to which I referred a few moments ago in an intervention, has been postponed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1309.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1310.4", "colnum": "1310", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I would like to pass to my next point and I hope that I will not have any further interruptions, because I dislike having the thread of my discourse interrupted; it disturbs me very much. There is another matter which needs to be cleared up. The Government have decided to take measures to reduce military expenditure. No one can object to that, not even hon. Gentleman opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1310.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1310.4", "colnum": "1310", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "because I dislike having the thread of my discourse interrupted; it disturbs me very much. There is another matter which needs to be cleared up. The Government have decided to take measures to reduce military expenditure. No one can object to that, not even hon. Gentleman opposite. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Let me put it this way. Hon. Gentlemen opposite must be anxious to reduce military expenditure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1310.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1310.4", "colnum": "1310", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "e is another matter which needs to be cleared up. The Government have decided to take measures to reduce military expenditure. No one can object to that, not even hon. Gentleman opposite. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] Let me put it this way. Hon. Gentlemen opposite must be anxious to reduce military expenditure—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"]—within the context of the security which must be assured to this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1310.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1320.1", "colnum": "1320", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (SUMMER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "This is a matter for individual Members. If an individual hon. Member wishes to spend the whole of the Recess on holiday then that is a matter for him but if his constituency is anything like mine it will take notice of the fact.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1320.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1379.4", "colnum": "1379", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kenyon", "preceding_text": "A very hypothetical answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1379.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1380.6", "colnum": "1380", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Kenyon", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Kenyon", "preceding_text": "I think that it was the late Sir Winston Churchill who started that, but it has been increased by every Government since. It is now proposed that the motorist should pay a toll for using the roads.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1380.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1411.4", "colnum": "1411", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Galbraith", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Galbraith", "preceding_text": "ehaved so stupidly—it was his advisers. The Government, in thinking that they can restrict traffic, are behaving like King Canute's advisers because the increasing flood of motor cars is every bit as irresistible as the incoming tide. Whatever should be cut in order to enable the Government to get out of the serious economic situation which they have created, the roads certainly should not be cut.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1411.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1413.3", "colnum": "1413", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "preceding_text": "o disappear. We have covered repairs to the M.1, access to Southampton, priorities at the docks, sanitary facilities on lay-bys and a vast number of individual schemes, showing the many frustrated demands for Adjournment debates still lying dormant. I hope that hon. Members will appreciate that I cannot answer individually all the questions about their particular bypass schemes and other problems—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1413.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1413.3", "colnum": "1413", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "preceding_text": " and a vast number of individual schemes, showing the many frustrated demands for Adjournment debates still lying dormant. I hope that hon. Members will appreciate that I cannot answer individually all the questions about their particular bypass schemes and other problems—[ Interruption. ]—but I can assure them that they will receive comments from the Ministry on the issues which they have raised—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1413.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1419.2", "colnum": "1419", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "I shall not detain the House for more than two or three minutes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1419.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1419.2", "colnum": "1419", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "r. It would not remove the Parliamentary battle between the parties as to whether £200 million, £150 million or £75 million should be allocated. We should still have across the Floor of the House a great battle about one party being efficient and the other inefficient. We should have all that. I am sure that when my right hon. Friend the Member for Wallasey (Mr. Marples) was Minister of Transport—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1419.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1419.2", "colnum": "1419", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "e allocation of money, and after Divisions, and after complaining about this or that Minister's inefficiency or this and that party's inefficiency. This road programme business is just the sort of problem to consider behind the scenes in committee, aside from party politics. In such a committee the Minister could protect me from his back benchers, and I would protect him from my own back benchers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1419.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1450.1", "colnum": "1450", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT (FACILITIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. English", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. English", "preceding_text": "not think that the House wants to be wearied at 12.15 a.m. with detailed suggestions. There are other methods adopted in other countries: ours is not the only method. Let us not be parochial and think that our methods are the only ones. Because we are in this House we have a tendency to think that the methods by which we got here must be the right ones because we are here and other people are not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1450.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1450.3", "colnum": "1450", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT (FACILITIES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. English", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It will do, the way we are going on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. English", "preceding_text": "ave to consider when talking of anything of this character is the function of the Member of Parliament. If a constituency perpetually wants its Member to be in that constituency, he will not be doing his duty in Parliament. The House used, in times past, to meet on Fridays and Saturdays as well. I am not suggesting that that is what it ought to do, although that arrangement provided long recesses—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1450.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1462.0", "colnum": "1462", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT (FACILITIES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Johnston", "preceding_text": "ilities of Parliamentary draftsmen? If an hon. Member on either side of the House wishes to make a case their services should be available to him so that he can use the sort of phraseology which is apparently legally acceptable. That seems a basic requirement. From the point of view of facilities of M.P.s, there is the facility of the hon. Member to speak. I may have been speaking for a long time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1461.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1520.4", "colnum": "1520", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EDUCATION (CAPITAL PROJECTS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "I will not give way again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1520.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1635.6", "colnum": "1635", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE (EXPORTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He is coming\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "ed. It is not the job of the Opposition to help the Government to do that. As I was saying, I gave notice of the fact that I intended to raise the subject of the export of beef and lamb. I told the Ministry about it and I am surprised that the right hon. Gentleman the Minister or at least another representative of the Department, is not here to listen to what I have to say and answer my questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1635.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1653.3", "colnum": "1653", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "able and plausible aim, it does not seem very sensible. On page 16 of the report of his speech, Professor Hallstein deals with the question of union or unity. I take General de Gaulle's view that, if there is to be any political association in Europe, it should be a political association in a unity, not a union; in other words, we must not lose our sovereignty altogether. Professor Hallstein said—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1653.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1654.1", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Be fair.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "That may be so. If my hon. Friend had been here a little longer—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1654.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1654.1", "colnum": "1654", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "entury. Only a challenge of the scale of a domestic market for Europe could help. Furthermore, the social unrest among the French farm population, a fifth of the total population, which bordered on revolution, could be contained only by expanding the market for French agricultural products\". If it was to be the saving of France, why is France walking out on this very point now? The next quotation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1654.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1657.0", "colnum": "1657", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "the letter: Let us announce that, without too many ifs and buts,\"— in other words, if I read it aright, it means, \"Let us announce without qualifications, without too many ifs and buts\". Am I being unkind? I think not— when the way is open, we shall be ready to accede to the Treaty of Rome, in the confidence that we shall be able to safeguard our interests better from within that from the outside.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1656.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1657.2", "colnum": "1657", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "arket lobby behind me. They do me a great honour by coming in. I only put the subject down last night, so it was not on the Notice Paper until about eight o'clock this morning. My right hon. Friend goes on in this way: Let us declare our intentions, by declaring our willingness to work not only for economic integration, but also for the progressive political union of Europe\"— with us in it!", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1657.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1657.5", "colnum": "1657", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "ns of disagreement, but it could at least be interpreted as a drift from the former position. Now the Labour Party is as divided on this issue as is the Tory Party. Indeed, the whole matter is in many ways well above party and partisan politics. The Labour Party is divided on this issue. We know full well that many Labour Members would like to go in on the Streatham terms, if I may call them that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1657.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "alter it. We do not want to be put in the position which France is now in. Are we really asking that we shold join the Common Market and then try to change the basis of the Treaty and then, not having succeeded in changing it, to wreck the whole joint? This would be more than the Community could stand, and we well know it. So let us be honest in this as well. I have spoken for a considerable time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "ng succeeded in changing it, to wreck the whole joint? This would be more than the Community could stand, and we well know it. So let us be honest in this as well. I have spoken for a considerable time. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"] I gave my reasons for speaking when I started my speech. I am delighted to see the Patronage Secretary with us, because this gives me the chance to restate very shortly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "making this speech. I was shocked at the right hon. Gentleman's attempt to move the Closure earlier because he did not realise why we are sitting so late this morning. We are sitting so late partly because of the debate on roads last night, a full-scale debate which took away our time, with four Front Bench speakers; partly because Front Bench speeches and many backbench speeches are far too long—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Get on.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "r speeches in the House I want to end on this note. The day before yesterday a very considerable speech was made in the House by the hon. Member for Birmingham, All Saints (Mr. Walden). It is always refreshing to hear an honest speech made in the House. His speech was of the greatest integrity and honesty. I believe that hon. Members, on whatever side of the House they may sit, should not be slow—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-03", "file": "debates1965-08-03a.xml", "sha256": "ea333c9db0dc2467", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1", "colnum": "1658", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "nd to give them some leadership and faith in what they are capable of doing. If anybody believes that it is an impossible task to galvanise the British people, I would say this. When de Gaulle became President of France nobody would have believed that France, in the short time of three or four years, would command the attention of the world, when before she had been a minor defeated tragic nation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-03a.1658.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-04", "file": "debates1965-08-04a.xml", "sha256": "0507574ed01dc740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1681.3", "colnum": "1681", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why not?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stonehouse", "preceding_text": "I do not think that it is fair to make that sort of comparison.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1681.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-04", "file": "debates1965-08-04a.xml", "sha256": "0507574ed01dc740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1692.0", "colnum": "1692", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heffer", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that the joint shop stewards committee—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1692.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-04", "file": "debates1965-08-04a.xml", "sha256": "0507574ed01dc740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1692.1", "colnum": "1692", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "I will, of course, take account of what my hon. Friend says on this matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1692.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-04", "file": "debates1965-08-04a.xml", "sha256": "0507574ed01dc740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1700.4", "colnum": "1700", "heading": "AGRICULTURE (WHITE PAPERS)", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "preceding_text": "In any case, is it not treating the House with scant courtesy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1700.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-04", "file": "debates1965-08-04a.xml", "sha256": "0507574ed01dc740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1704.1", "colnum": "1704", "heading": "AGRICULTURE (WHITE PAPERS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend will remember that the Knapp Report was produced by an independent body. Obviously, its findings were carefully considered, but it in no way binds any Minister to make any particular decision. I propose to set up a special council, which will have drive, and we shall still use existing organisations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1704.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-04", "file": "debates1965-08-04a.xml", "sha256": "0507574ed01dc740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1708.1", "colnum": "1708", "heading": "AGRICULTURE (WHITE PAPERS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "e new grants and extensions would have met the right hon. Gentleman's point. I did not intend to mislead the hon. Member for Richmond, Yorks (Mr. Kitson) or the House. The details of the process of amalgamation are on page 4 of the White Paper. I know that hon. Members have not read it yet, but payment will be related to acreage. Up to the age of 55 there will be a grant of £500 plus £15 per acre—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1708.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-04", "file": "debates1965-08-04a.xml", "sha256": "0507574ed01dc740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1709.0", "colnum": "1709", "heading": "AGRICULTURE (WHITE PAPERS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. David Griffiths", "preceding_text": "We on this side of the House congratulate my right hon. Friend most heartily on a most revolutionary act on behalf of agriculture. Hon. Members opposite laugh and scorn, but they are only laughing and scorning as far as big farmers and business are concerned. They are not worrying about the small farmer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1708.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-04", "file": "debates1965-08-04a.xml", "sha256": "0507574ed01dc740", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1753.3", "colnum": "1753", "heading": "ELECTRICITY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harrison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harrison", "preceding_text": "nt in private enterprise. I put ten Written Questions to the Minister last Friday and the reply was that a terrific amount of money is allocated to the training of management in private enterprise by the Minister of Education and Science. I can go along with that, but at the same time I bear in mind the question of who bears the cost of training management and personnel within the supply industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-04a.1753.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-08-05", "file": "debates1965-08-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd25b4319eb2f5f0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1872.0", "colnum": "1872", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — INTERNATIONAL NUCLEAR FORCE (ASIA)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Too long.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "ggested such an international nuclear force, was he speaking with the knowledge and authority of the Prime Minister? Second, in view of the guarantee to India which we and the United States have virtually given, will the Prime Minister assure the House that the British V Bomber Force in the Indian Ocean and, later, the Polaris submarines will continue to be equipped with nuclear weapons? Finally,—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1871.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-05", "file": "debates1965-08-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd25b4319eb2f5f0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1887.1", "colnum": "1887", "heading": "DEFENCE EXPENDITURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "May I ask the right hon. Gentleman three questions?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1887.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-05", "file": "debates1965-08-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd25b4319eb2f5f0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1892.2", "colnum": "1892", "heading": "PORT TRANSPORT INDUSTRY (REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "preceding_text": "nd for labour in the docks still to be safeguarded by the Docks Labour Board? Perhaps the Minister would acknowledge that the Report also gives the country a glimpse of the operations, clearly referred to in paragraphs 21, 62, 109, 113 and 114, of the work of a minority—I stress a \"minority\"—of wreckers. He will agree that action is urgently needed, and that it is sad to see that in paragraph 286—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1892.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-05", "file": "debates1965-08-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd25b4319eb2f5f0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1892.2", "colnum": "1892", "heading": "PORT TRANSPORT INDUSTRY (REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "preceding_text": "gently needed, and that it is sad to see that in paragraph 286—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"] I ask the Minister to agree that it is sad to see from paragraph 286 that … all the running has been made by the employers on the one side and the dissidents on the other. The paragraph goes on to say: At the moment the future depends on the T. and G. May I put some specific questions to the Minister?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1892.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-05", "file": "debates1965-08-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd25b4319eb2f5f0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1892.2", "colnum": "1892", "heading": "PORT TRANSPORT INDUSTRY (REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Joseph", "preceding_text": "pecific questions to the Minister? [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] This is a very important Report. In seeking to reduce the number of employers, would the Minister assure us that he will safeguard the right of new entrants to the industry? We recognise that the number of employers should be thinned out, but we do not want a monopoly created even of a few firms. Would the right hon. Gentleman further agree—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1892.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-05", "file": "debates1965-08-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd25b4319eb2f5f0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1895.5", "colnum": "1895", "heading": "PORT TRANSPORT INDUSTRY (REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We do not have the Report.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "preceding_text": "Nobody wishes to complicate the Minister's task, but would not he say that, in principle, the Government intend to be widely guided by the plan of action outlined at the back of the Report?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1895.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-08-05", "file": "debates1965-08-05a.xml", "sha256": "fd25b4319eb2f5f0", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1926.1", "colnum": "1926", "heading": "REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT, WEST COUNTRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Evelyn King", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"More.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Evelyn King", "preceding_text": "have sympathy with the unemployment areas I do not see how that measure will assist in providing employment in other parts of the country. I speak briefly of the roads, because the hon. Member for Bodmin dealt with them thoroughly, but if one travels, as I do habitually, from London to Weymouth through Poole and Bournemouth, particularly at the weekends, it is not unusual to have a 45-minute wait.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-08-05a.1926.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.1.7", "colnum": "1", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Sir Barnett Cocks, by virtue of the Gracious Message we have received, it is the responsibility of hon. Members and right hon. Gentlemen to elect one from among our number to occupy the Chair as Speaker of this House. I regret the tragic circumstances which have made this ceremony necessary—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.1.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.1.7", "colnum": "1", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "ry—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"]—circumstances that we all deplore. I learn that tomorrow tribute will be paid to our late colleague, Sir Harry Hylton-Foster. Therefore, all I do now—and I have the assurance that I represent the views of every hon. and right hon. Gentleman of this House—is to express our sincere sympathy with that gracious lady, the widow of our late colleague, Lady Hylton-Foster.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.1.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.1.7", "colnum": "1", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "iples, there is a background and the like, all factors which operate, sometimes excessively, in seeking to interpret impartiality. There is, of course, another quality, a very important attribute, we expect from a Speaker. That is intelligence. So I venture to make my proposition. It is that my right hon. Friend the Member for Southampton, Itchen (Dr. Horace King) be elected Speaker of this House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.1.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.5.0", "colnum": "5", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "Sir William Anstruther-Gray", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Three.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir William Anstruther-Gray", "preceding_text": "f blows. I have seen blows struck in this House before now, and so have other hon. and right hon. Members. I hasten to say that it was a long, long time ago, and time cures everything. If Mr. Speaker is reluctant, and he certainly is, in a normal Parliament to suspend an hon. Member, how much more that must be so with the situation today when the Government have one, two, or is it three, majority?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.5.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.8.0", "colnum": "8", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Horace King", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Horace King", "preceding_text": "hat he might have occupied the Chair himself, and, had he done so, he would have done so with great distinction. I count it an act of friendship and supreme loyalty to Parliament that he should today have seconded the Motion. I have noticed the ominous warnings in the speeches of both right hon. Gentlemen. I understand that when a Privy Councillor is invited to tea, the tea has to be Irish coffee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.8.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.8.0", "colnum": "8", "heading": "ELECTION OF SPEAKER", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Horace King", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Horace King", "preceding_text": " come in history when the Speaker's Chair might be occupied by a Socialist. I am deeply conscious of the joy which today will bring to the movement for which I have worked since I was a boy of 15. This day may be a \"first\" in many ways: the first Speaker from Southampton in its 650 years of Parliamentary representation: the first trade unionist—although here I may be wronging the legal profession—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.8.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.19.2", "colnum": "19", "heading": "JOINT ANTI-SUBMARINE SCHOOL, LONDONDERRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "Is the Minister aware that this is a very sombre note to strike just before the opening of a debate on Northern Ireland and that in Northern Ireland the Government will be judged by their actions rather than their words? Is he also aware—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.19.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.22.9", "colnum": "22", "heading": "NORTHERN IRELAND", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Sir Frank Soskice)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Sir Frank Soskice)", "preceding_text": "ating and discussing the affairs of Northern Ireland. I am bound to say that I start at some disadvantage in having to follow the making of a statement which I know has caused disappointment, although the conclusion was absolutely inevitable and was supported by arguments advanced by the Minister to which no possible answer could be found. It is one of those unhappy decisions which have to be made", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.22.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.32.1", "colnum": "32", "heading": "NORTHERN IRELAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. R. Chichester-Clark", "cue_text": "interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. R. Chichester-Clark", "preceding_text": "say that my hon. Friends and I intend to return to this subject on many future occasions. I find it hard to believe that hon. Gentlemen opposite, who claim to speak to the electorate as representatives of the party which cares about the people, can do a thing of this kind, a thing which makes a sham and nonsense of all their professions about regionalism, their care and concern for the unemployed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.32.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.39.5", "colnum": "39", "heading": "NORTHERN IRELAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Chichester-Clark", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Chichester-Clark", "preceding_text": "hing new in the National Plan for the regions or for Northern Ireland. In effect, it tells us, with that special gift which the Government have for presenting platitude as newly-revealed truth, that the underdeveloped areas have a greater part to play in the economy because of their manpower resources. Something like that was heard as far back as 1963, so it does not really get us very far at all—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.39.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.39.5", "colnum": "39", "heading": "NORTHERN IRELAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Chichester-Clark", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Chichester-Clark", "preceding_text": "that someone in this debate will wave the flag of discrimination. If I went into detail I should certainly get out of order, but I must say to those who want to wave that flag, you don't do Ulster any service. \"We have to deal with this thing ourselves.\" \"No successful solution for the provinces' problems can possibly be imposed from outside.\" Is there anyone in this House who disagrees with that?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.39.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.48.3", "colnum": "48", "heading": "NORTHERN IRELAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stanley R. McMaster", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stanley R. McMaster", "preceding_text": "d to bring about industrial expansion. Such a lower interest rate would not only help to attract new industry to Northern Ireland. It would also help our existing industries to expand. While the prevailing high interest rates continue in the United Kingdom we shall not see the kind of expansion which we became accustomed to during the period of the last Government in helping to fight unemployment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.48.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.87.1", "colnum": "87", "heading": "NORTHERN IRELAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ogden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ogden", "preceding_text": "T, 12th May, 1965; Vol. 712, c. 522.] Perhaps the Home Secretary or the Under-Secretary will give us some idea of the proposals they may have in mind to ensure that the electoral law in Northern Ireland is as fair as it is in the rest of country. Finally, I make a basic point. There are as many friends of Ulster on this side of the House as there are on that. I ask you to accept this in good faith", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.87.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.105.1", "colnum": "105", "heading": "NORTHERN IRELAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": " ensure that conventions established over long years are not trampled upon. My right hon. and learned Friend and Her Majesty's Government as a whole have established good relationships with the Government of Northern Ireland. I hope that I am not hurting them over there when I say it, but, naturally, we have had to be in close touch with them over decisions that affect the very life of the colony.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.105.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-26", "file": "debates1965-10-26a.xml", "sha256": "200a816485e47608", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.108.4", "colnum": "108", "heading": "NORTHERN IRELAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"There is the Home Secretary.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "I know the hon. Gentleman is a lawyer—or I think he is. That was a lawyer's point, and I do not go for it in a big way, because the plain truth is that he can split hairs as much as he likes—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-26a.108.4"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.139.2", "colnum": "139", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — POST OFFICE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Reading.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Slater", "preceding_text": "tting, Gaming and Lotteries Act, 1963, says that it is an offence for any person in connection with a lottery promoted or proposed to be promoted, either in Great Britain or elsewhere, to sell or distribute or offer or advertise for sale or distribution any tickets or chances in the lottery or to bring or invite any person to send into Great Britain tickets for the purpose of sale or distribution.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.139.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.142.0", "colnum": "142", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — WIRELESS AND TELEVISION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gibson-Watt", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gibson-Watt", "preceding_text": " believe there are at the moment? Secondly, does he agree that, as many people believe, the number of television licence evasions at the moment comes to between 25 and 30 per cent.? Would he tell us a little more about his methods of finding out about these people who fail to pay their television licences, particularly in view of what has been said in the newspapers with regard to the possibility—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.142.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.186.3", "colnum": "186", "heading": "PROCEDURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "Every year since the war, they have been growing in number. While sitting here, I looked at the Order Paper and I see that we have reached No. 351 in the current Session. The problem here is not so much a question of what we shall do about Early Day Motions. The problem is, rather, what are the printers of our Votes and Proceedings and the Clerks at the Table going to do to deal with this problem.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.186.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.199.1", "colnum": "199", "heading": "PROCEDURE", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Next day\".", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "preceding_text": "Whenever that might come. That might come before or a long way after 10 o'clock.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.199.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.225.1", "colnum": "225", "heading": "PROCEDURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": " of debates in this Chamber, reduce spontaneity and flexibility in the proceedings in this House and take more and more issues out of politics. His speech this afternoon was discussing a monumental Aunt Sally. He attacked a proposition that has never been made. Never at any time in the course of the Select Committee's proceedings were specialist committees suggested to question Ministers upstairs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.225.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.281.1", "colnum": "281", "heading": "PROCEDURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": " purpose of a Ten Minute Rule Bill is to state the reason for wishing to bring in such a Bill. This can be done as equally well after 10 p.m. as it can at 3.30 p.m. and I do not agree with one of my hon. Friend's who said that there will be a loss to private Members. There will be nothing of the sort. Hon. Members will not be losing anything but will merely be taking such matters later in the day.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.281.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.290.9", "colnum": "290", "heading": "PROCEDURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Vote.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "preceding_text": "th the perfectly frank intention, which I believe will receive the approbation of a number of hon. Members on both sides of the House, that it should not be possible for the Government to get this business because it is not desired—by me at any rate, nor I believe by hon. Members on both sides of the House—that the virtual abolition of the Ten Minute Rule procedure should be put through the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.290.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.290.9", "colnum": "290", "heading": "PROCEDURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A free vote.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "preceding_text": "ssible for the Government to get this business because it is not desired—by me at any rate, nor I believe by hon. Members on both sides of the House—that the virtual abolition of the Ten Minute Rule procedure should be put through the House. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Vote.\"] The general sense of hon. Members who have intervened from a sitting position seems to be that it would be perfectly in order to vote.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.290.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.291.1", "colnum": "291", "heading": "PROCEDURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "preceding_text": "The hon. and learned Gentleman knows full well that he and hon. Friends of his are sitting behind the Leader of the House for the purpose of voting on it to give the Leader of the House his way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.291.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-27", "file": "debates1965-10-27a.xml", "sha256": "5558fb86c6316614", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.291.3", "colnum": "291", "heading": "PROCEDURE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "preceding_text": "t there are indeed hon. Members opposite who propose to vote in that way. I have heard individual Members who have spoken during the debate say that they oppose the recommendation of the Leader of the House, but there are many hon. Members who have entered the House since then whose view is not known. They will be disposed, as the House knows full well, to take the lead of the Leader of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-27a.291.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.341.4", "colnum": "341", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Hon Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir E. Bullus", "preceding_text": "Will the hon. Gentleman keep an open mind on this question? Does he visualise the possibility of reverting to the original practice if there is a failure in the years ahead? I ask this with the full knowledge that he may have no responsibility in the matter within 12 months.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.341.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.347.1", "colnum": "347", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TRANSPORT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Swingler", "preceding_text": "There are some limits to the inaccurate and untrue statements which can be made. The hon. Gentleman knows perfectly well that the Government did not sack Lord Beeching. Lord Beeching asked to be relieved of his duties—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.347.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.352.8", "colnum": "352", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — STEEL NATIONALISATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Wait.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "Can the right hon. Gentleman confirm the Prime Minister's undertaking on television on 20th July that the Steel Bill would be in the programme for next Session?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.352.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.353.6", "colnum": "353", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Where is the Chancellor of the Exchequer?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Derek Page", "preceding_text": "May I have an Answer to my Question?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.353.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.353.7", "colnum": "353", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Brown", "preceding_text": "May I say on behalf of all of us that we regret that because we have made under your chairmanship, Mr. Speaker, such exceptionally good progress, my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer is not here to answer the Question?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.353.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.355.2", "colnum": "355", "heading": "HOUSE BUILDING (TALKS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "I think that the idea that I should now tell the right hon. Gentleman what has been happening in the talks before I make a statement is stupid.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.355.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.363.5", "colnum": "363", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Sir Knox Cunningham", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Knox Cunningham", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. When an honorary Member asks a Question—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.363.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.363.5", "colnum": "363", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Sir Knox Cunningham", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Knox Cunningham", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. When an honorary Member asks a Question—[ Laughter. ] When a right hon. or hon. Member asks a Ques tion which is not answered—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.363.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.388.3", "colnum": "388", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "ouse to accept the Amendment might be in another place. I cannot prophesy. What I do know, however, and what I think the whole House knows, is that this Amendment is the result of a great deal of heart searching. There has been a great deal of anxiety about various aspect of the Bill in this House and in another place. It would be a great pity, when the Amendment does not make all that difference—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.388.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.388.3", "colnum": "388", "heading": "Orders of the Day — MURDER (ABOLITION OF DEATH PENALTY) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Soskice", "preceding_text": "ht that, so far as it goes, it was not without use. The Amendment is the result of thinking in another place. This is the decision which the other House has taken. If we do not accept it, I do not know whether the other place will accept it. I would say to the right hon. Gentleman, \"Let us accept the Amendment\". Putting the worst face on it, it does not do any harm. I think that it does some good.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.388.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.402.0", "colnum": "402", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HONOURABLE LADY HYLTONFOSTER'S ANNUITY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Fifteen years.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Lewis", "preceding_text": "eed, Mr. Dodds gave much longer service to the House—just on 21 years. He had been an active hon. Member from the very beginning, right up until the last. That goes for when his party was in opposition and when it came to power. Mr. Dodds attended the House of Commons day in and day out. I understand that the late Speaker was here for seven or eight years, about four years of which he was Speaker.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.401.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.452.3", "colnum": "452", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRAFFIC CONGESTION (LONDON)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Doig", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Doig", "preceding_text": "I have been in London for longer than the period since Labour came into office—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.452.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.452.3", "colnum": "452", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRAFFIC CONGESTION (LONDON)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Doig", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Doig", "preceding_text": "I have been in London for longer than the period since Labour came into office—[HON. MEMBERS: \"That is not long.\"] It is quite long enough—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.452.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-10-28", "file": "debates1965-10-28a.xml", "sha256": "1500bac1d60ef3d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.475.1", "colnum": "475", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TRAFFIC CONGESTION (LONDON)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is the answer?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": "l be killed, which is certainly one way of reducing the population of London. Really, I have never heard anything like it in my life. The answer to the problem, surely, is a long-tem one. The streets of our cities are hopelessly inadequate, because they were never meant to carry the volume of traffic that they have to today. The road system of London was never intended to service 8 million people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-10-28a.475.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.599.9", "colnum": "599", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Reading.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Onslow", "preceding_text": "Can the Minister tell the House why this disappointing reply reveals his inability—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.599.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.605.3", "colnum": "605", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyden", "preceding_text": "We have given the building industry the confidence in its future expansion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.605.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.614.8", "colnum": "614", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOSPITALS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Loughlin", "preceding_text": "I think that everyone can assume that when one is dealing with a building which was first opened in 1905 and one makes a survey of it, deficiencies are bound to be shown.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.614.8"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.627.2", "colnum": "627", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SPAIN (ARRESTED BRITISH SUBJECTS)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. May I say to the House that I am grateful for its keen co-operation at Question Time?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.627.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.639.0", "colnum": "639", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "Is the Prime Minister aware—I am sure that he is—that the whole House welcomes him back warmly after a long and arduous mission—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.639.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.643.3", "colnum": "643", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "think, fully in touch with the situation—right through the elected Members under the B roll and to the Nationalist leaders. I am not sure that it would be easy quickly to decide upon who should be a representative African to choose, even if one were to decide upon one—and, of course, one cannot rule out that the Rhodesian Government may nominate an African member. But I shall have full confidence—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.643.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.669.0", "colnum": "669", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Forbes Hendry", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Forbes Hendry", "preceding_text": "leman might be embarrassed, since I do not believe that he intends to disagree with the Lords in this Amendment because it might jeopardise his Bill. I am, therefore, thankful for small mercies. I suggest that we consider the implications of the Bill in the rest of the country, outside London and the big cities, because obviously hon. Gentlemen opposite have no idea of what is happening elsewhere.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.669.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.735.1", "colnum": "735", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir B. Janner", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir B. Janner", "preceding_text": "I see the hon. Gentleman shaking his head. That is the position. One can pick one's tenants, particularly for this kind of house—I do not say in every case—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.735.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.735.3", "colnum": "735", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir B. Janner", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It says 'five years'.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir B. Janner", "preceding_text": " and I know how it has been interpreted by the country over the years. This Clause is not consistent with the tenor of the Acts which provide security of tenure. Quite contrary to that, if accepted, it would mean, as my right hon. Friend rightly says, that every person who purchased a house would be able to insert a Clause and would be advised if he intended to occupy the house at any future time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.735.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.735.3", "colnum": "735", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir B. Janner", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir B. Janner", "preceding_text": "opposite had better listen to this very carefully—the security which, in many cases, they destroyed by the 1957 Act. They must not overlook the fact that the Bill reintroduces protection for tenants who were protected before the 1957 Act but who were deprived of security by it. A Clause of this nature would give an additional right to landlords who otherwise would not be able to obtain possession.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.735.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.775.4", "colnum": "775", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "rts by the test of greater hardship or the rest. That is clear. That is the Clause we have all agreed on. Now, I am asked to add to that the further statement that we will extend it outside the area of the employee in the tied cottage to the house or building on the farm which is not occupied by an employee but by someone else who is a tenant. It might be a shop, a factory or anything, presumably.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.775.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-01", "file": "debates1965-11-01a.xml", "sha256": "dbfcd94292b97924", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.811.3", "colnum": "811", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RENT BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooke", "preceding_text": ", or that they care very much about it. The Minister certainly seemed to think that they should not be included. A student may be in lodgings. Perhaps he wants to get married and the landlady is very helpful about that and says, \"You can come here when you are married\". He and his wife might both be students. They might start having children and the landlady might again be most helpful about that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-01a.811.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.844.0", "colnum": "844", "heading": "PRIVATE BILLS AND PRIVATE BUSINESS", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "be no objection to the Returns being dealt with together and perhaps hon. Members would like to do this to preserve the maximum time for Questions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.844.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.873.3", "colnum": "873", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — B.B.C. CURRENT AFFAIRS PROGRAMMES (MINISTERIAL REPRESENTATIONS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": " Minister aware that under the aide-mémoire of 1947, which governs all these broadcasts, the Opposition are always entitled to claim a right of reply to a Ministerial broadcast? If they can show the B.B.C., where the decision lies, that it is controversial, they get the right of reply. The reason why there was not a reply to the rent broadcast was because it was not a controversial subject.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.873.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.874.6", "colnum": "874", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — INDEPENDENT TELEVISION (PRIME MINISTER'S SPEECH)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "This story is quite false. My right hon. Friend has no responsibilities in this field, nor has he exercised any, except in one case, where my right hon. Friend the First Secretary of State brought him in, in the planning of the National Plan publicity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.874.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.887.0", "colnum": "887", "heading": "PALACE OF WESTMINSTER (SELECT COMMITTEE'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "So do hon. Members.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Chichester-Clark", "preceding_text": "Shops and Railway Premises Act which this House passed in 1963. That Act stipulates a minimum of 40 sq. ft. per person. Most journalists expect to be harried, rushed and harassed in their work, but they also expect to be able to have a desk and a filing cabinet. At the present moment, perhaps almost more they need space for back numbers of newspapers, books for research, and so on, and anyone who—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.885.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.917.1", "colnum": "917", "heading": "PALACE OF WESTMINSTER (SELECT COMMITTEE'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "time, we had something akin to that in what is now the Reference Room but which in those days was the Map Room, where Labour Members sat and argued and determined the policy of their own party and even that of the Government of the day. Sometimes even the Prime Minister came in, and we told him where to get off. But we have no accommodation now where Labour Members can be intimate with each other—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.917.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.917.1", "colnum": "917", "heading": "PALACE OF WESTMINSTER (SELECT COMMITTEE'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "wrong on a modern place like this, and to put it right it would not mean much in the way of money. Hon. Members would be surprised at the power vested in the Accountant of the House. I do not know where he derives this power, but he has got it. In the Recess, for instance, if a Member has a season ticket from his home to Westminster, the Accountant writes to him and says that he must send it back.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.917.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.944.1", "colnum": "944", "heading": "PALACE OF WESTMINSTER (SELECT COMMITTEE'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Harmar Nicholls", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Harmar Nicholls", "preceding_text": "nation of what seems to be a contradiction. I accept completely the point of view put forward by the right hon. Member for Easington. I believe that if extra offices were provided and if we drove Members into using them a number of hours when they did not need them, we should remove the community spirit of this place and we should lose the education which we get from talking to other hon. Members.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.944.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.948.0", "colnum": "948", "heading": "PALACE OF WESTMINSTER (SELECT COMMITTEE'S REPORT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "All I am saying is that no one has asked me for my opinion on them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.948.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-02", "file": "debates1965-11-02a.xml", "sha256": "4819667df6bf1cbb", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.982.1", "colnum": "982", "heading": "AGRICULTURAL LIME SCHEME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stodart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stodart", "preceding_text": "as reported as having been in the Islands, even if he is not aware that he was there. Why is there nothing in the reverse direction? What is the present position of the production of lime in Scotland vis-à-vis consumption? In 1963 an answer was given to the hon. Gentleman the Member for Caithness and Sutherland (Mr. George Y. Mackie), whose interest in this debate I see has been dissipated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-02a.982.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.998.4", "colnum": "998", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peart", "preceding_text": "With permission, I will answer Question Nos. 10 and 11 together.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.998.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.999.7", "colnum": "999", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "May I come back to the Question and the Minister's charge that my hon. Friends have been distorting? The right hon. Gentleman is grossly unfair. There were Press reports in this country—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.999.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1008.3", "colnum": "1008", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No. Too long.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "h he has enunciated? Is he further aware that one of the authorities is Kilmarnock Town Council which, after five years' experimentation, decided to have nothing to do with this tampering with our water supplies? Does he further realise that Paisley Town Council has decided to have nothing to do with it because this poisonous compound may affect the thread industry in Paisley? Is he further aware—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1008.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1031.2", "colnum": "1031", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Sir H. Legge-Bourke", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir H. Legge-Bourke", "preceding_text": "provocative and, in my view, regrettable resolution has been passed in the Trusteeship Committee of the United Nations—a resolution which I understand is likely to be endorsed by the General Assembly. In his statement this afternoon the Prime Minister said that in the last resort perhaps there might be a referendum supervised by an independent body. Does he visualise that being the United Nations?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1031.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1035.5", "colnum": "1035", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ennals", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ennals", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. When will Parliament have an opportunity of discussing this matter—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1035.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1040.2", "colnum": "1040", "heading": "WHITEHALL (REDEVELOPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "Again, I must refer to the previous statement which I made. In addition to what I said, we have asked for an urgent examination to be made of the riverside tunnel road, which would take off about 40 per cent. of the traffic from the precinct. That examination is taking place. In any case, I cannot make all the announcements at one time. Neither can they be synchronised.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1040.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1042.1", "colnum": "1042", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "duplicity—going on here. I put some straight questions to the right hon. Gentleman who is to follow me. Where do the Opposition, for whom he speaks today, stand—on their election manifesto or on the speech of the right hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West? Let us assume that the right hon. Gentleman has his reservations, but are they collectively in favour of a fair prices and incomes policy?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1042.1", "colnum": "1042", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"What about the right hon. Gentleman and his right hon. and hon. Friends collectively?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "w me. Where do the Opposition, for whom he speaks today, stand—on their election manifesto or on the speech of the right hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West? Let us assume that the right hon. Gentleman has his reservations, but are they collectively in favour of a fair prices and incomes policy? [ Interruption. ] Whatever reservations any one Member may have, are they collectively in favour?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1046.1", "colnum": "1046", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "of areas and sectors of industry to which the restrictions should not apply. The result is that, whereas we have been holding back on services and other less essential things, we have been going ahead on the science-based and technological things that we needed. We have also been selective socially. For the first time the essential social services which are at present in operation have gone ahead.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1046.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1050.3", "colnum": "1050", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "pective in view of some of the things that I have seen written and heard said about this? To achieve that target requires us to do as much and to increase our output by as much in the six years from the base year 1964 to 1970 as was done in the past seven, and it is no more enormous than that. Clearly, it is feasible. It is not a very exaggerated target to reach for. In our view, this can be done.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1050.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1064.1", "colnum": "1064", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iain Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iain Macleod", "preceding_text": "t, set a questionnaire which practically forces that answer, and then say that British industry 'expects' the answer you want. All that has really been demonstrated is that British industry employs men who can read and do simple arithmetic. That is true, and that is the first evidence that I bring before the House: that the analysis to which the First Secretary has referred is fundamentally false.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1064.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1067.1", "colnum": "1067", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"The right hon. Gentleman used to.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "history of economic hallucinations comes to be written, the idea that Governments possess the knowledge and power positively to determine the rate of economic growth through the techniques of central economic planning will be revealed as one of the most widespread, tenacious and harmful of errors. I agree with that. Quite a number of people go on to say, \"Therefore, do not plan\". I frankly do not.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1067.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1067.1", "colnum": "1067", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Publicly owned.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "We all on both sides of the House know this. Over and over again we have been unbelievably wrong—everybody—on this. Let us take the example of gas, with all its sort of Victorian \"Fanny by Gaslight\" connection. Everybody thought that there was no future whatever for this. We know better now. We know better from the figures which there are in the papers this morning how well this industry has done—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1067.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1072.3", "colnum": "1072", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "ices unworkable or that only external competition of growing private services would raise the standards of the state services, it acknowledged the role of consumer choice\". Those who disagree with Dr. Abel-Smith would think that his suggestion would be unworkable; what he is considering is choice within the State services. I am suggesting that we shall get better State services if we widen choice—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1072.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1072.3", "colnum": "1072", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"If they can get them.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "ge of council house building. This is going against the whole tendency towards homeownership in this country. It is going against the ordinary desires of the people of this country. In a survey of housing which was carried out recently, in answer to the question, \"What kind of accommodation would you prefer?\", 62 per cent. said owner-occupation including mortgage, 23 per cent. said council houses—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1072.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1074.1", "colnum": "1074", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about Enoch?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "tock cycle. We have made it clear in a number of speeches that the whole Tory approach is going to be very different indeed. Of course the Government are right just as a business is right and an individual is right to do a certain amount of planning. This is inevitable, but to argue that there should be planning or not is at least as irrelevant as arguing about whether one approves of the weather.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1074.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1097.1", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "preceding_text": "s 250 million tons, but the Conservative Government were 50 million tons out. With the best will in the world, when fixing a target for the mining industry one may be wrong both as to the size of the market and as to the amount that can be produced. I want to be fair about this. It is a difficult exercise. If we have a hard winter we shall burn 10 million tons more coal than if we have a mild one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1097.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1097.1", "colnum": "1097", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It is not a target.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ness Edwards", "preceding_text": " in the history of this Parliament or the history of British industry has so much been done for a single industry as the present Government have done for the mining industry. It is about time that was said. Now in their White Paper on fuel policy the Government have said that they expect the market for coal in the coming year to be not 200 million tons but between 170 million and 180 million tons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1097.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1127.1", "colnum": "1127", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Hordern", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Hordern", "preceding_text": " by causing trouble abroad, but the measure of the First Secretary's achievement is that he has managed to blind the nation to its present condition by means of an economic document dealing with 1970. Its full extent can be observed only by judging what the current situation is. When the First Secretary appeared on television to discuss the National Plan, he said that there was no credit squeeze.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1127.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1158.1", "colnum": "1158", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "preceding_text": "No, I think that I had better get on—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1158.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1162.1", "colnum": "1162", "heading": "NATIONAL PLAN", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Albu", "preceding_text": "I assure the hon. Gentleman that it does.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1162.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-03", "file": "debates1965-11-03a.xml", "sha256": "0cf9dd96ac9055e4", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1180.0", "colnum": "1180", "heading": "CONTROL OF OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lloyd", "preceding_text": "at it might be helpful to the people of Birmingham, shows that the people there have some cause to be anxious about the Order. What is the reason? It is that the Minister has argued the matter on the long-term basis of the desire to help other regions of the country in employment and—he does not hesitate to say so—I think, potentially at the expense of Birmingham and the area of the West Midlands.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-03a.1180.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-04", "file": "debates1965-11-04a.xml", "sha256": "89da090c556d7ddf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-04a.1229.8", "colnum": "1229", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — THE PRIME MINISTER AND MR. KOSYGIN (VISITS)", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Osborne", "preceding_text": "Is there not a real danger that the Prime Minister is losing influence in Moscow and, possibly, in Peking by being too closely associated with Washington—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-04a.1229.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-04", "file": "debates1965-11-04a.xml", "sha256": "89da090c556d7ddf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-04a.1234.0", "colnum": "1234", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. I believe that the House has benefited by the progress we have made at Question Time this week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-04a.1234.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-04", "file": "debates1965-11-04a.xml", "sha256": "89da090c556d7ddf", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-04a.1285.1", "colnum": "1285", "heading": "WALES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "That is a hypothetical question. I have been down a mine.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-04a.1285.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.8.2", "colnum": "8", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Comprehensive?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": " When I gazed upon my constituency first in 1945 I would not have changed it for any other constituency in the land, nor would I today, for when I looked out I saw the great old building of my old school in the heart of the constituency, Manchester Grammar School, which I attended as a boy and which is now about to celebrate its 450th anniversary, looking back with immense pride on its great past—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.8.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1", "colnum": "16", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "ervice charges, which right hon. Gentlemen opposite promised once, and differential mortgage rates promised by the Prime Minister and the First Secretary. The technique here seems to be that one trots them out at election time and then puts them out to grass ready to parade again when the next election comes along. There is one omission from the Queen's Speech which is the biggest omission of all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1", "colnum": "16", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "sed once, and differential mortgage rates promised by the Prime Minister and the First Secretary. The technique here seems to be that one trots them out at election time and then puts them out to grass ready to parade again when the next election comes along. There is one omission from the Queen's Speech which is the biggest omission of all. [ Interruption. ] There is no reference at all to steel.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1", "colnum": "16", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "ushed right under by the hon. Members for Bosworth (Mr. Wyatt) and Pembroke (Mr. Donnelly). Of course, we welcome the Prime Minister's conversion. It looks like the biggest conversion since Bessemer invented his converter. But I challenge the Prime Minister to declare this afternoon that the nationalisation of the steel industry is no longer the policy of the Labour Party or the Labour Government?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1", "colnum": "16", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "y is no longer the policy of the Labour Party or the Labour Government? [ Interruption. ] If the right hon. Gentleman wants to answer the question now, I will give way. If he does not answer it, then the whole country knows that the omission of steel from the Queen's Speech is just a squalid act of political expediency by a Prime Minister who puts political power before his principles and beliefs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1", "colnum": "16", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "e whole country knows that the omission of steel from the Queen's Speech is just a squalid act of political expediency by a Prime Minister who puts political power before his principles and beliefs. [ Interruption. ] I should like to say some words about some of the items which have been referred to by the hon. Gentlemen who have just spoken and about some of the other items in the Queen's Speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.16.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.20.1", "colnum": "20", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "should like to ask the Prime Minister a question about the speech of the First Secretary on 16th October when he said that it remained the Government's view that £350 million of the £892 million spent on educational services should be transferred from local rates to national taxation. Is this a firm Government commitment by the First Secretary, or is it another of his 3 per cent. mortgage touches?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.20.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.20.1", "colnum": "20", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Never.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "rently, they have failed to realise that as a result of the Chancellor's efforts they have been cutting back on higher education, that their policy has been regressive for the last six months. We do not want any more \"progress\" of that sort. We welcome the statement about pensions for those in the public services who retire. We shall examine the proposal to see if it comes up to our own proposals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.20.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.27.2", "colnum": "27", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \".Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": ". We have always insisted that a policy for incomes must be a policy for all incomes, not just those accruing to labour. We have insisted that we cannot appeal for restraint in one area of the economic process unless we first take action by our general incomes policy and by a taxation policy which attacks the arrogant citadels of fiscal privilege in order to create a climate of equity and justice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.27.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.27.2", "colnum": "27", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "roductivity is economically frustrating and socially unjust. This is why we have repeatedly called for an attack on every nationally manifested restrictive practice we have been able to identify. Right hon. Members opposite talked a lot but did nothing about restrictive industrial practices. We have tackled the problem of opposition to liner trains, problems in shipbuilding, problems in the docks—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.27.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.38.1", "colnum": "38", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I think that the right hon. Gentleman wants the answer. I am not leaving the question of steel; I am coming to it. We regard the proposals set out in the White Paper of last April as the right policy for the future of this industry. Public ownership of steel on the basis set out in that White Paper is and remains our policy, and we shall legislate to give effect to it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.38.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.38.1", "colnum": "38", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "he right policy for the future of this industry. Public ownership of steel on the basis set out in that White Paper is and remains our policy, and we shall legislate to give effect to it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"] As my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer has said elsewhere, the issue is no longer whether—that has been decided; the issue is when, and that is the question of priorities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.38.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.38.1", "colnum": "38", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Ah.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " and remains our policy, and we shall legislate to give effect to it. [HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"] As my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer has said elsewhere, the issue is no longer whether—that has been decided; the issue is when, and that is the question of priorities. [ Laughter. ] We have had to judge this issue, and with the formidable list of essential legislation announced today—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.38.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.38.1", "colnum": "38", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "ssion. The Steel Bill will be a major Measure and might well take a considerable amount of Parliamentary time. It might even be controversial—I did not gather that from the right hon. Gentleman's speech. It is for any hon. Member, opposite or on this side, who feels that it should be brought forward this Session to say what other major Bills should be sacrificed, because they would be major Bills.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.38.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.39.1", "colnum": "39", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Knox Cunningham", "preceding_text": "Sir Knox Cunningham (Antrim, South) rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.39.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.41.0", "colnum": "41", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An. HON. MEMBER: \"And what you promised.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "now. It reached its peak last October in the General Election, but it still persists, and it was best expressed more than a year ago in the Freudian remark by the then Leader of the Conservative Party in his election broadcast, when he said: we are now building 400,000 houses next year. We would suggest that the one comparison is between what they did, what we are doing and what we shall be doing.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.41.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.55.1", "colnum": "55", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Grimond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Grimond", "preceding_text": " as a squalid act of political expediency. This is the omission of any mention in this Speech of steel nationalisation. I do not see it in the same light as the Leader of the Opposition. On the contrary, I believe that the Government are certainly entitled, and are right and correct, to take notice of the fact that they have no mandate for this Measure. As they say that it has a very low priority—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.55.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-09", "file": "debates1965-11-09a.xml", "sha256": "8c2b21c950871583", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.57.1", "colnum": "57", "heading": "DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS [FIRST DAY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": "the idea of the independent deterrent, and, now that the M.L.F. and the A.N.F. seem to be on the way out, we hope they will have some other proposals for international control of weapons. I was taken to task by the Leader of the Opposition for having been educated at Eton. I am not ashamed of my school. There are many agreeable and not a few eccentric people who have been educated at Eton. I wish—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-09a.57.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.168.1", "colnum": "168", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Mr. Douglas Houghton)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Mr. Douglas Houghton)", "preceding_text": "es in the country sound like the Fourth Form at St. Dominic's, and those in the House like a man with nothing to say. I thought that the right hon. Gentleman's speech yesterday was a complete write-off. I am sorry that he is not here this afternoon. I dislike being rude to him in his absence but I fully expected that the Leader of the Opposition would be in his place for the opening of the debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.168.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.176.0", "colnum": "176", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "An hon. Member: \"What?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "development of the hospital services is a major part of this expansion. We have already demonstrated our anxiety to stimulate hospital building by exempting it completely, together with housing and schools, from the measures recently taken by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer to strengthen our economic position. The programme of hospital modernisation is fast gathering momentum—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.176.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.179.1", "colnum": "179", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"In Parliament.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "ions, by the staff of the National Assistance Board with the help of the officers of the voluntary bodies. A survey is now being made of accommodation for people of that kind, and then, in the beginning of December, National Assistance Board officers and others will be carrying out a survey of the number, including those who sleep rough, to see how many are sleeping in and about wherever they can—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.179.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.181.3", "colnum": "181", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"After 13 years of Tory rule.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Houghton", "preceding_text": "e been obliged to postpone for the same reasons as ourselves. I hope that in the interval we can take another leap forward to set ourselves new objectives and work more energetically to reach them. If we are looking for new aims in our national life, there is ample scope here. We are still one of the richest countries in the world. We still have one of the highest standards of living in the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.181.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.185.1", "colnum": "185", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Pie in the sky.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Keith Joseph", "preceding_text": "d to refer to or explain this in any way. We hope that he will do better next time in explaining to us and to the country why any of the Government's promises should be accepted when they fail both to carry out their promises and to explain what has happened to them. This is all in very great contrast to the coherent and practical policies which the Opposition have recently published or announced.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.185.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.199.1", "colnum": "199", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": " have directed their efforts in the past to the welfare of the trade union movement, and that they approach these matters today solely for the purpose of assisting the trade union movement in overcoming its own difficulties. That is the kind of attitude they take. Very often Tories talk as if all the original martyrs in the cause were members of the Tolpuddle Conservative and Unionist Association.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.199.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.204.0", "colnum": "204", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And the Liberal Party.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "he words I have just read to the House. We had some discussions within the Labour Party on the matter and, in the subsequent week, a statement was published on the decision of the Government. This confirmed what was said in the White Paper, and said that the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs had said that he was to have consultations with or listen to representations from the steel industry—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.204.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.207.3", "colnum": "207", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "I am very glad to learn that. The commitment of the Labour Party, the principle of public ownership and of introducing it as speedily as the Government think it is possible, is absolute. That means that steel nationalisation will be in the next election pro- gramme of the Labour Party, if we have not been able to introduce it before— does it not?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.207.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.207.3", "colnum": "207", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "nciple of public ownership and of introducing it as speedily as the Government think it is possible, is absolute. That means that steel nationalisation will be in the next election pro- gramme of the Labour Party, if we have not been able to introduce it before— does it not? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"] I am sure that the best person to answer that question is my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.207.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.207.3", "colnum": "207", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "en able to introduce it before— does it not? [HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"] I am sure that the best person to answer that question is my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"] I make no complaint about the fact that my right hon. Friend is not here. He has many other matters to deal with. I am sure that he will answer it. I have not any doubt about what his answer will be.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.207.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.207.3", "colnum": "207", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "e better. If the Labour Government say, \"We have not got a majority here and now for such a Measure\", which they say is essential to the economy of the nation and is paramount in the interests of the nation, if they have not got that majority in the present House of Commons they should make up their minds to get that majority as speedily as possible. Therefore, I am in favour of an early election.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.207.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.233.3", "colnum": "233", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "preceding_text": "I shall shortly be giving the hon. Gentleman an opportunity to go with me into the Division Lobbies on another Ten Minute Rule Bill, which perhaps I might announce now in my own gracious speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.233.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.237.1", "colnum": "237", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iremonger", "preceding_text": "From all of us. I think that the hon. Gentleman knows me well enough. We are all toads beneath the harrow.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.237.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.259.2", "colnum": "259", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Short", "preceding_text": "ically or scientifically in every branch— that would not be possible—but people who really understand the language of engineering, who are able to make the right contacts and give the right information, being familiar with what our exhibitors and representatives abroad need to know when they go to an embassy seeking help. This is by no means a new idea. As long ago as 1942, now 42 or 43 years ago—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.259.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.290.3", "colnum": "290", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "Party's election manifesto which read: Labour will review the whole plan on the basis of a full assessment of local needs and provide the necessary finance to carry the plan through. Where is the reference to hospital building in the Queen's Speech? There was not a word, and why not? Because the Government's plan is to cut back on the projects which they inherited from the previous Administration.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.290.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-10", "file": "debates1965-11-10a.xml", "sha256": "8f724c1e3d661838", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.290.3", "colnum": "290", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": " a full assessment of local needs and provide the necessary finance to carry the plan through. Where is the reference to hospital building in the Queen's Speech? There was not a word, and why not? Because the Government's plan is to cut back on the projects which they inherited from the previous Administration. [An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"] It is no good crying \"nonsense\". In the last week or two—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-10a.290.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.355.0", "colnum": "355", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "I have stated, and there will be a Government statement tomorrow giving more details of the action we would propose if Parliament agrees to the Bill. I am sorry it is not ready at the moment, for reasons the House will understand. Lord Caradon, British permanent representative of the United Nations, is asking the President of the Security Council to call an early meeting to consider the situation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.349.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.355.1", "colnum": "355", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Why? Because if we do not somebody else will.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.355.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.355.3", "colnum": "355", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "It is the duty of Her Majesty's Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.355.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.355.4", "colnum": "355", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Loyal Opposition!", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "It is the duty of Her Majesty's Government—[ Interruption. ]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.355.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.357.0", "colnum": "357", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "the Ministers, has also suspended the Constitution. Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether there is any truth in this matter? Secondly, by bringing the matter before the United Nations, could the Prime Minister say whether his right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary will continue to emphasise the position which has always been maintained so far—that this continues to be a British responsibility?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.357.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.357.0", "colnum": "357", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "me detail, is he aware that we would wish to examine each of these on its merits? We understand, of course, that some flow from the present situation of an illegal Government and that some are the decision of the Government. In examining them on their merits, we would do so against the criterion—what is the purpose of the Government's policy in taking each of these actions and the extent to which—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.357.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.360.1", "colnum": "360", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "or the support of other countries in those economic measures, because it is obvious that some of them could be frustrated if there were no general support for them. But it must be understood that it will not be necessary for us to ask. Indeed, anyone who has studied the attitude of the United Nations on the Rhodesian question and on the South African question will know that it will be a question —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.360.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.362.0", "colnum": "362", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henry Clark", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henry Clark", "preceding_text": "Will the Prime Minister assure the House that Her Majesty's Government will take no action and will make no statement which would in any way encourage or be thought to encourage civil strife or hostilities in Rhodesia?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.362.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.363.0", "colnum": "363", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "Is the Prime Minister aware that many of his sternest opponents respect very much a great deal of what he has said and done during these recent terrible weeks but that, at the same time, not all of us are entirely convinced—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.363.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.363.3", "colnum": "363", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "Why did the right hon. Gentleman not leave a Minister in Salisbury?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.363.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.367.1", "colnum": "367", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "I am anxious to help the House in this matter. I think that the major debate will be the general debate tomorrow rather than the debate on the enabling Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.367.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.370.7", "colnum": "370", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "ce on the general principle that where the value of land is increased as a result of planning permission, and that increased value is realised, the State is entitled to levy a contribution on that increased value. Indeed, the House may recall that the Government come in this matter some six or seven months behind the Opposition, since the Opposition made this point clear as long ago as last March.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.370.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.386.7", "colnum": "386", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "That is very care-, fully not answering the question which I put.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.386.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.386.7", "colnum": "386", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "That is very care-, fully not answering the question which I put.[ Interruption. ] It was because of what the building societies said to him that he altered his tune when he spoke to the International Congress of Building Societies a little later.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.386.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.462.1", "colnum": "462", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lomas", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Tell us about it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lomas", "preceding_text": "g into being for the benefit of the nation and the benefit of all our people, including even the Conservative Party and its supporters in the long run\". My view on the matter is reinforced by my experience over a Private Member's Bill which I introduced—the most innocent, innocuous Bill which could ever have been presented to the House. There was not a controversial comma, full stop or word in it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.462.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.466.1", "colnum": "466", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. A. P. Costain", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. A. P. Costain", "preceding_text": "First of all I would declare that I am a builder and on the Council of the Association of Land and Property Owners. In view of the suggestion by Mr. Speaker that we should have short speeches, I will not follow the hon. Member for Huddersfield, West (Mr. Lomas) in looking for the virtuous maiden on the Front Bench. I have been looking, and I have not seen one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.466.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.470.1", "colnum": "470", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "preceding_text": "it and replace it in another area. Hon. Gentlemen opposite seem always to think that there is something rather wicked about someone being able to obtain a house for cash or on a mortgage and be able to sell and buy elsewhere. Why are they so keen to boast about the increased building of council houses? They must admit that a council house takes twice as long to build as a private enterprise house.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.470.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.477.1", "colnum": "477", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Manuel", "preceding_text": "al production of 28,000 will not do. We did not build, in spite of all the incentives that we were offered. The hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor) says, \"Rubbish\", but he knows quite well that it is no use dealing with such a serious matter in that flippant way. If one studies the September return of the Scottish housing position and compares it with the position back to 1956", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.477.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.488.1", "colnum": "488", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Richard Grossman)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where are yours? \"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Richard Grossman)", "preceding_text": " I find myself in disagreement with the hon. Lady as to its nature. She said that it was a vivacious debate. I thought that it was very quiet. Ever since the Recess I have been waiting for the frustrated hon. Members of the Conservative Party to accept the chance of massing themselves for this debate, waiting to pit their indignant fury at us, but we never had much of it from them. Where are they?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.488.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.488.1", "colnum": "488", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Richard Grossman)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\" Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Housing and Local Government (Mr. Richard Grossman)", "preceding_text": "ay, which are very important issues, too, and not so much on the detailed questions of the Land Commission. In order to deal with that, I want to say as simply as I can, first of all, so as to get it clear what we have been trying to do this last year, that we have been planning for a very considerable expansion of the housing programme, an expansion which was not contemplated by our predecessors—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.488.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.492.0", "colnum": "492", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.491.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.492.1", "colnum": "492", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "time to get the prices down. We therefore had the problem of materials and labour. The second item, apart from planning, was Government initiative. Unpopular decisions had to be taken. It was clear to me that if we were to have 500,000 houses a year, which was 100,000 more than the previous Government ever dreamed of getting or ever thought it was possible to get under a private enterprise system—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.492.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.492.1", "colnum": "492", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Laughter", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "h I have been a little disappointed—at the reaction of hon. Gentlemen opposite. Perhaps I should not use the word \"surprised\". In any case, I have found the reaction of hon. Gentlemen opposite slightly distasteful. It almost looks as if they did not want these talks to succeed. I certainly would not wish to make the allegation that they were trying to bitch the talks. I would not like to say that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.492.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-11", "file": "debates1965-11-11a.xml", "sha256": "ea09bc4692e477e3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.498.8", "colnum": "498", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "raised and which the builders raised with me, which is the problem of the size of the public sector. We have decided that we must bring up the public sector to a level of 250,000 houses a year. This will bring it somewhere near the private sector in this period. We have done this for this reason. The social need for picking up the backlog of ten years of neglect has now been overwhelmingly proved.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-11a.498.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.523.7", "colnum": "523", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations (Mr. Arthur Bottomley)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The white people.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations (Mr. Arthur Bottomley)", "preceding_text": "shades of opinion and to get their views on the independence issue. We found that the churches as a whole, business interests generally and some national and local leaders were opposed to an illegal declaration of independence. However, we had, sadly, to recognise that the broad masses of the people supported the Rhodesia Front Government and the policy of a unilateral declaration of independence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.523.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.534.3", "colnum": "534", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, he did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "The Prime Minister has now given us further information which he did not give us yesterday.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.534.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.534.3", "colnum": "534", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "y, and that we have as a House to perform that duty by discussing the basis on which we can restore the rule of law, legal Government and freedom in Rhodesia. In that passage the Prime Minister has very clearly set out the objective of the Government, the criteria by which the actions should be examined—that they should not be punitive and that there may be honest and sincere differences of view —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.534.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.536.0", "colnum": "536", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Christopher Rowland", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Christopher Rowland", "preceding_text": "I am expressing my belief that some of the views expressed have been neither honest nor sincere.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.536.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.536.2", "colnum": "536", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. The hon. Member for Meriden (Mr. Rowland) is in order in expressing his opinions. He is not in order in expressing them from a seated position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.536.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.542.0", "colnum": "542", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech\".", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "May I ask the right hon. Gentleman a question which I propose to ask my right hon. Friend later if I am fortunate enough to catch Mr. Speaker's eye? What would the right hon. Gentleman's advice be to the 4 million Africans who presumably remain loyal and who are now in a state of emergency, who are refused the right to express an opinion, who are refused access to information, who are held—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.542.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.544.3", "colnum": "544", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "s? Why have they taken, in addition, the action on tobacco? How will it restore freedom and law and order? What is the real purpose of it? I must put this question frankly to the Prime Minister. Is the right hon. Gentleman endeavouring, by the action he has taken, to ensure that it is impossible for any so-called administration by Mr. Smith to continue to function in Rhodesia? Is that the purpose?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.544.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.546.1", "colnum": "546", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "t of what they give as their explanation, their judgment of the situation and purpose, we shall tell the Prime Minister and the House what our own position is. What the House has to consider is whether the impact will bring about the objective that we want, or whether it may be quite the contrary, whether it is going to drive a rebel group, as the Prime Minister terms them, further into rebellion.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.546.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.546.1", "colnum": "546", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "t will bring about the objective that we want, or whether it may be quite the contrary, whether it is going to drive a rebel group, as the Prime Minister terms them, further into rebellion. [ Interruption. ] The Prime Minister described them as a group of frightened men. That was not the impression which some of us who met them in London got of them. I should have thought that to take this action—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.546.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.553.0", "colnum": "553", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: A new Lord North.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grimond", "preceding_text": "s been pointed out by the hon. and gallant Gentleman, some of the measures can amount to more than withdrawal of privileges, and certainly this measure does. But one needs more than the withdrawal of privileges when one is dealing with rebels. Surely one goes beyond the withdrawal of Commonwealth Preference and so forth when one is dealing with a situation which may repercuss throughout the world.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.553.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.575.1", "colnum": "575", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Philip Noel-Baker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Philip Noel-Baker", "preceding_text": "I propose to speak briefly in answer to the right hon. Member for Thirsk and Malton (Mr. Turton). I shall not deal with the speech of the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall), which seemed to me to be irrelevant to all the main issues with which we are concerned and which, to me, I am sorry to say, carried overtones of memories from the days of appeasement in the 1930s.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.575.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.582.1", "colnum": "582", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rowland", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rowland", "preceding_text": "lieve that the Opposition support for these two statements has been one of the reasons why the Government have been able to be so firm in the last few months. But a few weeks ago it became apparent to observers of the political scene that there was an erosion of will on the other side of the House. I do not know where it started but it seems to have been coincidental with the Brighton conference —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.582.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.594.0", "colnum": "594", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Raphael Tuck", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Raphael Tuck", "preceding_text": "ed Nations is mentioned, because we all know the loving care and support which his predecessor in office, the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Kinross and West Perthshire (Sir Alec Douglas-Home), has always given to the United Nations. I was, however, appalled by the jeers which greeted the Prime Minister's mention of the United Nations, jeers from Members of Her Majesty's obstruction opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.594.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.594.0", "colnum": "594", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Raphael Tuck", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Raphael Tuck", "preceding_text": "shire (Sir Alec Douglas-Home), has always given to the United Nations. I was, however, appalled by the jeers which greeted the Prime Minister's mention of the United Nations, jeers from Members of Her Majesty's obstruction opposite. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I am sorry. I apologise for the Freudian slip. It should be Her Majesty's Opposition, but they act as though they were Her Majesty's obstruction.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.594.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.609.1", "colnum": "609", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henry Clark", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Why the white?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henry Clark", "preceding_text": "dentify the people of Rhodesia, completely and absolutely with Mr. Smith's action. It is up to the Government and to the House to be quite clear that whilst Mr. Smith's regime is in revolt the individual people of Rhodesia are not yet necessarily in revolt. It must be said, and must go on being said, that we have every reason for respecting the people of Rhodesia and particularly the white people.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.609.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.609.1", "colnum": "609", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Henry Clark", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Henry Clark", "preceding_text": "te people. [HON. MEMBERS:\"Why the white?\"] The white in particular because the white Rhodesians have proved—and this is a valuable lesson in the middle of the twentieth century—that an area of poor soils and bush need not necessarily remain under-developed. This is a lesson which can be an inspiration to many other parts of the world. The words\"kith and kin\" have perhaps been used rather too much—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.609.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.611.1", "colnum": "611", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How does the hon. Gentleman know?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": " the striker does not desist from striking on that account. If he feels strongly about his principles, he says to his wife and children, \"You will suffer because I believe fundamentally in the principle for which I am striking\" The same applies in Rhodesia. If the Africans suffer as a result of sanctions imposed by Her Majesty's Government, as I believe they may well do, they will willingly do so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.611.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.625.1", "colnum": "625", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Did he sign?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "e that the Governor might well be incapacitated from discharging his duties by actions within the control of those particular individuals. In those circumstances it was legal, I suppose, under the Constitution, but I think that it will be necessary for us to seek powers to change that provision of the Constitution to render illegal that act, taken for one purpose only—and that a very evil purpose.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.625.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-12", "file": "debates1965-11-12a.xml", "sha256": "7473539f21f41c82", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.625.1", "colnum": "625", "heading": "Orders of the Day — QUEEN'S SPEECH", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " within 28 days. I am sure that the House will feel that it would meet its convenience—and we have discussed this with right hon. Gentlemen opposite—that debate should take place on a number of Orders at once. I do not think that we want to see essential domestic legislation and the normal give and take of Parliamentary debate held up indefinitely while we have to clear up the Rhodesian situation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-12a.625.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.663.1", "colnum": "663", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "rtly as possible. Broadly speaking. last year there was overheating in the industry to the tune of about £100 million. It would have been £140 million this year. To take up the slack which will become apparent next year, I have already announced that I am prepared to receive applications for building licences in advance of the Bill and that I will let the most urgent projects through the pipeline.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.663.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.665.1", "colnum": "665", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I have made the decision and the Government have accepted the decision, and it is seemly that my Department should do this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.665.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.665.1", "colnum": "665", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PUBLIC BUILDING AND WORKS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Competition.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I have made the decision and the Government have accepted the decision, and it is seemly that my Department should do this—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"] If I had put it out that an unspecified private architect was to do it, hon. Members opposite would probably have agreed without knowing who he was—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.665.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.716.1", "colnum": "716", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Ah.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. K. Zilliacus", "preceding_text": "Does the right hon. Gentleman agree with the Prime Minister's statement on Friday that the object of sanctions is to put an end to the rebellion, and is it not a matter for Mr. Smith and his friends to decide how far they are prepared to go in defying law and order and their constitutional duty? Do not we have to escalate sanctions until such point as the rebellion is defeated?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.716.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.716.2", "colnum": "716", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Amery", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Amery", "preceding_text": ". But why should we do it? Of course, we cannot condone rebellion. But the effort we make to suppress rebellion must correspond to some extent to the injury which we suffer from the rebellion. Certainly this is a rebellion, but it is a rebellion wrapped up in the Union Jack, and I cannot imagine a rebellion less directed against British interests. Is there really any great principle at stake here?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.716.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.716.2", "colnum": "716", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Amery", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Amery", "preceding_text": "cy of unconditional surrender. It would be easy to fill in this Bill to make it so unacceptable to European Rhodesian opinion that it would be imposing unconditional surrender on them. I do not think that Her Majesty's Government will get a victory by sanctions, or by force, or by bringing about economic chaos. What, then, should we advise them to do? They are the Executive and must play the hand—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.716.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.720.1", "colnum": "720", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Jeremy Bray", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Jeremy Bray", "preceding_text": "s in the villages and towns who know that, if Britain does not fulfil her obligations, Africans will take the law violently into their own hands. They fear far more the measures that they and their colleagues would take— their friends in Africa—than they fear any action that would be taken by Britain. I think that the right hon. Member is displaying a lighthearted attitude to the lives of farmers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.720.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.726.0", "colnum": "726", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Bray", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What sections?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Bray", "preceding_text": " of this need to minimise the suffering, the loss of life perhaps, in Rhodesia, I urge the leaders of the Opposition, in particular the Leader of the Opposition itself, to look very seriously at the attitude of his party to oil sanctions. Hard things have been said about the Leader of the Opposition, about his temporising on tobacco sanctions and giving way to sectional interests within his party—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.726.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.728.2", "colnum": "728", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hastings", "preceding_text": "nt that Mr. Smith and his colleagues may purport to constitute in pursuance of this illegal declaration of independence and that you do accept the continuing responsibility and authority for Southern Rhodesia of the Government and Parliament of the United Kingdom. If you decline to make a declaration in the above terms, you will be regarded as having chosen to adhere to Mr. Smith's illegal regime.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.728.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.728.3", "colnum": "728", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hastings", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hastings", "preceding_text": "Hon. Members opposite seem to be quite happy about this. If they reread the speech the Prime Minister made on Friday, they will find that his speech was not at all in accord with the spirit of this brutal document.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.728.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.730.11", "colnum": "730", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "No.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "Mr. Sydney Silverman rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.730.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.730.13", "colnum": "730", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hastings", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hastings", "preceding_text": "To come to the Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.730.13"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.744.1", "colnum": "744", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": "far as I know, Roman-Dutch law no longer has any effect on criminal matters. I have thus saved him some research. I am still an advocate in the High Court of Southern Rhodesia, but I say to the hon. and learned Gentleman, in case he wants to send me one of these contentious little forms which have been referred to, that he need not bother. My loyalty is still firmly with the Crown in this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.744.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.744.1", "colnum": "744", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": "l united on certain things. First, everybody, despite what may have been said, thoroughly deplores the illegal action taken by Mr. Smith. Secondly, there is virtually unanimous if not complete support for the consequential penalties flowing from it. Thirdly, we all agree, I think, that the Prime Minister and the Commonwealth Relations Secretary did their best to avert the break at the last moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.744.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.748.0", "colnum": "748", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about Sharpeville?", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": " behave and how probably every hon. Member here would behave in a similar situation. Let me give only one instance. Do hon. Members opposite realise that morning after morning ordinary Rhodesian people, artisans and so on, opened their morning papers to see photographs of children disembowelled, nuns slaughtered and monks flogged? Did that have an effect on their way of thinking? Of course it did.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.746.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.749.0", "colnum": "749", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "How does the hon. Gentleman know?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": " terms of the controversy in the House and in the country. It appears that there are many hon. Members opposite who wish to speak. Of course, they have every right to do so, but it seems that many of them will wish to speak in the same sense as the right hon. Member for Preston, North and the hon. Member for Mid-Bedfordshire. In other words, there is serious and substantial opposition to the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.748.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.753.1", "colnum": "753", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Including military force?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": " But the Government cannot be sure. On Friday, my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister quoted Sir Winston Churchill and used the phrase,\" all necessary lengths\". I think that is right. It would be the only tolerable and honourable position for the Government to take. When I vote for the Bill, that is what I think I shall be voting for—all necessary lengths to ensure that the rebellion is put down.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.753.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.756.1", "colnum": "756", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Lionel Heald", "cue_text": "Interrupton.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Lionel Heald", "preceding_text": "In this grave situation I believe that no hon. Member who speaks in this House should, if he can possibly avoid it, say anything which is going unnecessarily to raise the temperature—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.756.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.779.1", "colnum": "779", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "desia what is the use of them?\" Let us hear from the Government what they have in mind and let our constituents be told what we stand to lose ourselves from a trade embargo. Last year we supplied £35 million, equal to one-third of Rhodesia's imports. It may be said that this is not a big amount, but in the precarious state of our national economy can we afford such an embargo? I deplore the U.D.I.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.779.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.779.1", "colnum": "779", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": " Southern Rhodesia should be incorporated in South Africa, but the electorate in Rhodesia, these Rhodesian Europeans, voted against incorporation in the Union of South Africa. Although it is true that many Rhodesian Europeans are of South African origin and a number of them are Afrikaners, it is also true that many of them came north because they wanted to live under a more liberal British system.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.779.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.793.1", "colnum": "793", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Arthur Vere Harvey", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"We do.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Arthur Vere Harvey", "preceding_text": "rightful situation in which they now find themselves. We all deplore U.D.I. It is very easy to say that in the comfort of an air-conditioned House of Commons, but what must it be like in Salisbury today? It is a desperate situation, and I ask hon. Members not to inflame it, to think seriously, and to think twice. Why do not those who recommend full sanctions recommend an oil embargo straight away?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.793.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.797.1", "colnum": "797", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ian Lloyd (Portsmouth, Lang-stone)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ian Lloyd (Portsmouth, Lang-stone)", "preceding_text": "ly, in Rhodesia? Are we incapable of recognising that substantial numbers— I emphasise the word \"substantial\"—of Europeans are, rightly or wrongly, simply not prepared to hand over political power to indigenous peoples who, for whatever reasons, lack resources, lack responsibility, lack skill and lack enterprise? We should not concern ourselves, in my humble view, with the merits of this position—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.797.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.804.1", "colnum": "804", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Disgraceful.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Thomas", "preceding_text": "eclaration of dissociation from the purported declaration of independence. My hon. Friend read out to the House what they were required to declare. What concerns me is, first of all, that at the end of the document is written: If you decline to make a declaration in the above terms you will be regarded as having chosen to adhere to Mr. Smith's illegal regime. This is a new approach in British law.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.804.1"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.812.8", "colnum": "812", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hastings", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.812.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.820.1", "colnum": "820", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": " of a different kind in the nineteenth century. There was the Risorgimento in Italy which led to the throwing off of Austrian rule. There was an unsuccessful rebellion, but one which deserved to succeed, in the streets of Budapest in 1956. But they all had one distinguishing feature. That they were all rebellions against tyranny and injustice. This is a rebellion to maintain tyranny and injustice.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.820.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.831.2", "colnum": "831", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "I think that the point has been made clear enough.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.831.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.843.0", "colnum": "843", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "ain today. Accordingly, I must ask forgiveness if I do not go into those matters which have been traversed at some length already. But I will deal with two specific matters upon which my assistance has been sought by the Committee. In regard to the position of \"grandchildren\"—which is a term of art to which I have become accustomed in the course of the day—these, I am instructed —or I am informed—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.843.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.847.0", "colnum": "847", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Why?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Emery", "preceding_text": "that I put a specific question to him on this point? One can understand that the Government would use these powers when they did not have the Bill before the Committee I asked whether the Government would give an assurance that, when dealing with Rhodesia in future, they would use the powers, extensive as they are, contained in the Bill and not use any powers contained under any other legislation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.846.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.851.1", "colnum": "851", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Charles Mott-Radclyfte", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Charles Mott-Radclyfte", "preceding_text": "accorded the Bill an unopposed Second Reading and Committee stage. We are now on the final stage—Third Reading. I want to make one suggestion to right hon. and hon. Members opposite. I very much doubt whether some of the intemperate language which we have heard from hon. Members opposite in the course of to-day's debate, particularly language used, unfortunately, by both Law Officers of the Crown—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.851.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.862.2", "colnum": "862", "heading": "HOUSING (SLUM CLEARANCE COMPENSATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Graham Page", "preceding_text": "old argument that the size of the offspring is relevant to its legitimacy.\" —[OFFICIAL REPORT, 28th March, 1956; Vol. 550, c. 2204–5.] That was a very good phrase—but what about this time? Will the hon. Gentleman explain why on this occasion he has not persuaded his right hon. Friend to produce a Bill which throws this expenditure on the taxpayer? Now I turn to the main purpose of the Bill.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.862.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-15", "file": "debates1965-11-15a.xml", "sha256": "b9657fd295a59468", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.885.1", "colnum": "885", "heading": "HOUSING (SLUM CLEARANCE COMPENSATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter (Kingston-upon-Thames)", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"They were concentrating.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Boyd-Carpenter (Kingston-upon-Thames)", "preceding_text": "here has been a widely expressed feeling on both sides of the House that the Bill still plainly does not go far enough. I hope that that point has been noted by right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite, because at one moment during the debate, of the three Ministers so courteously representing their Department simultaneously on the Treasury Bench two were following the debate with their eyes closed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-15a.885.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.919.1", "colnum": "919", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — LOCAL GOVERNMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jennings", "preceding_text": "I shall be interested to know how much more information the Minister needs. Would it not be better to deal with the reform of local government on the basis of a national plan—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.919.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.925.6", "colnum": "925", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOUSING", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Grossman", "preceding_text": "My right hon. Friend was obviously referring to this Parliamentary year.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.925.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.931.5", "colnum": "931", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — COMMONWEALTH RELATIONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Too long.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations (Mr. Arthur Bottomley)", "preceding_text": "rn Rhodesian Government stock issued under the Colonial Stock Acts or which are inconsistent with international obligation relating to Southern Rhodesia. The power to amend the Constitution by Order in Council is confined to a limited range of provisions, principally those dealing with the Governor and only certain Bills amending the Constitution are liable to be reserved. The scope of the powers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.931.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.941.6", "colnum": "941", "heading": "NORTH THAMES GAS BOARD (GAS PRESSURE REDUCTION)", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "Is not this yet another example of the failure of nationalised industries—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.941.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.944.8", "colnum": "944", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Sir Martin Redmayne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Martin Redmayne", "preceding_text": "rdination. In the words of the old tag, \"What's yours is mine and what's mine is my own\" Coordinate with me, but do not be so rash as to expect any co-ordination from me. The fact is that the Labour Government and the whole Labour Party have an entirely split mind on the whole subject of private enterprise and the profit motive. I went last week to the annual meeting of the Institute of Directors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.944.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.952.1", "colnum": "952", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He has gone.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir M. Redmayne", "preceding_text": "ely some of them are ripe for decision. I hope that we shall hear something worthwhile today. But the truth is that even if he seeks to justify his actions during the last year by retailing something of what he has done he will be hard put to it, if he is hard put to it to claim anything in the National Plan, to claim any success which is not an inheritance from his predecessor. \"Marples must go\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.952.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.961.1", "colnum": "961", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Tom Fraser)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"He was.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Tom Fraser)", "preceding_text": "I should inform the right hon. Member for Rushcliffe (Sir M. Red-mayne) straight away that for at least 80 per cent. of his speech it appeared to the rest of the House that his right hon. Friend who will wind up the debate for the Opposition was petrified.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.961.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.961.1", "colnum": "961", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Tom Fraser)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Tom Fraser)", "preceding_text": "hon. Gentleman to make personal attacks on me, but I will begin by taking up one of the points he made towards the end of his speech, when he made a most offensive allusion to Lord Hinton. He said that Lord Hinton had been called in to do a job as a temporary civil servant and that—or so I gathered from his remarks—he had, during the Recess, been removed to another post under Government patronage.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.961.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.962.0", "colnum": "962", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Transport (Mr. Tom Fraser)", "preceding_text": "e he would wish to take up his appointment again with the World Bank. In due course, he said to me that he had completed the job which he had been given to do and would it be all right if he returned to his appointment. What was I to say? \"Of course \", I said, and he went back to the World Bank. Thus, he was not being used merely as a tool of the Government. Nor was he shoved into some other post.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.961.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.979.3", "colnum": "979", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deedes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deedes", "preceding_text": "he point where passengers suffer extreme discomfort and the volume of traffic continues to rise. The level of fares is too low to finance costly increases in system capacity, but the demand goes on getting heavier. I hope that the Minister will agree with me that it goes on getting heavier all the time. Examining the causes, I accept straight away that office development in London is a big factor—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.979.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.979.3", "colnum": "979", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Deedes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deedes", "preceding_text": "ses, I accept straight away that office development in London is a big factor—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I am trying to deal with this problem seriously. It is fair to add that the last Administration would be open to the charge not that they allowed too much office building in London but that too much went on without sufficiently close study of the resulting traffic needs. That I would accept—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.979.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1034.1", "colnum": "1034", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "preceding_text": " capital expenditure on the road programme and I regret the facts which led to that delay. Nevertheless, an attempt is being made and, within the restrictions put upon him by the present economic condition, the Minister is doing his best. I do not hesitate to make my criticisms tonight, but I could not advise my right hon. and hon. Friends to support the Opposition in the Lobby on their Amendment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1034.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1037.0", "colnum": "1037", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Simon Wingfield Digby (Dorset,West)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He has just come in.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Simon Wingfield Digby (Dorset,West)", "preceding_text": "Is the hon. Gentleman aware—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1037.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1041.0", "colnum": "1041", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lewis", "preceding_text": "y in which he could achieve his object was if there were a further reduction in traffic. It seems that the railways do not want traffic. According to a report in a local newspaper only last week, the pigeon fanciers of Cumberland, who spend about £ 7,000 a year with British Railways, have been told by the Railways Board that they had better go to private enterprise for transport for their pigeons.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1041.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1047.1", "colnum": "1047", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Quintin Hogg (St. Marylebone)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Bonkers.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Quintin Hogg (St. Marylebone)", "preceding_text": "inisters and ex-Ministers— to have failed in one of those conflicts. What disappointed me in this respect was was the right hon. Gentleman's defence of his failure. He did not seem to understand the case which is being made against this Government on that point. Just over a year ago the country was being led to believe that if only they had the wisdom, as it was put, to return a Labour Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1047.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1047.1", "colnum": "1047", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Quintin Hogg (St. Marylebone)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Quintin Hogg (St. Marylebone)", "preceding_text": " happened is that they have not had the clutch of new schools, hospitals, roads or houses, but they have had a general increase in taxation. So they have all been swindled. It is no good the right hon. Gentleman who is responsible for his party's road programme to come to the House and ask \"What would you have cut?\", because the truth is that we could have managed with our whole capital programme—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1047.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1050.3", "colnum": "1050", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hogg", "preceding_text": "t be able to correct his hon. Friend, because by any objective criteria he will have to say, if he is pressed, that civil science progressed in those thirteen years faster than in any previous 50 of our history. We became the second technological nation of the West, second to the United States, and the United States had the advantage of scale and national income which we could not hope to emulate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1050.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1056.1", "colnum": "1056", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of Technology (Mr. Frank Cousins)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of Technology (Mr. Frank Cousins)", "preceding_text": "ne point of importance. He invited me to make clear that I would be party to the abolition of the office of Minister of Technology. He will be interested to know that, far from it being abolished, there is the intention to strengthen it, and, if it pleases the right hon and learned Gentleman, on the initiative of the right hon. Gentleman sitting on my left, as he described him, the Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1056.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1057.3", "colnum": "1057", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": " knowledge of industry. For a number of years I sat on the opposite side of Ministerial tables to successive Ministers of Transport to talk about this problem of co-ordination, but they destroyed the only opportunity there was by wrecking the system whereby feeder services of British Road Services were being used to bring quickly and effectively to the railheads goods for handling by the railways.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1057.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1057.3", "colnum": "1057", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "cessive Ministers of Transport to talk about this problem of co-ordination, but they destroyed the only opportunity there was by wrecking the system whereby feeder services of British Road Services were being used to bring quickly and effectively to the railheads goods for handling by the railways.[ Interruption. ] This was a long time before we even put Dr. Beeching in and not when we sacked him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1057.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1061.1", "colnum": "1061", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr, Cousins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr, Cousins", "preceding_text": "nt by rail, and then, on challenge, he withdrew the word \"obvious\". He said that it was not obvious, but it was preferable. I repeat his original word. It is obvious. If something is not done about it soon, traffic in this country will come to a standstill. Something needs to be done and it is therefore obvious. If we are not careful, we shall reach the point of not dealing with technology at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1061.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1061.1", "colnum": "1061", "heading": "TRANSPORT AND TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr, Cousins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr, Cousins", "preceding_text": "achine-tool industry with public ownership, as though that was the kind of thing to talk about at this time. We need to discuss the modernisation of the machine-tool industry, an industry which is now doing an effective job of work and will do better because it now has the encouragement of a Minister who, in such ways as he can, is aiding its development. There were two questions about technology.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1061.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-16", "file": "debates1965-11-16a.xml", "sha256": "0ba5142bc727a671", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1100.1", "colnum": "1100", "heading": "LONDON TRANSPORT BOARD (BORROWING POWERS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hendry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hendry", "preceding_text": " the right hon. Gentleman will answer my questions. After all, we have heard a great deal about regional development, but most of the regional development seems to be taking place in London. The Minister of Transport, who represents a Scottish constituency, must explain that and I hope that he will say what is to be spent on other parts of the country. I could speak at great length in this debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-16a.1100.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1143.3", "colnum": "1143", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — SCOTLAND", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hendry", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hendry", "preceding_text": "Does the Under-Secretary of State not agree that this is a very complicated matter involving several local authorities, besides the river board, which I mentioned to him in detail at the beginning of last Session, in Committee? With a view to bringing an end to the procrastination between the Ministry and the local authorities, will he now—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1143.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1146.3", "colnum": "1146", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — QUESTION TIME", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "On a point of order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1146.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1149.2", "colnum": "1149", "heading": "GAS AND ELECTRICITY SUPPLIES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS:\"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "I could not give my hon. Friend details of a penalty clause.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1149.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1151.1", "colnum": "1151", "heading": "PHANTOM AIRCRAFT (SPEY ENGINES)", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Very poor.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "endeavour to meet the convenience of the Front Bench opposite and the House. In this case, in view of some singularly misinformed rumours circulating in the Press this week, I thought it essential, outweighing even the advantages of giving a good deal of advance notice, to make this announcement to the House at the earliest possible opportunity. That precluded a large amount of notice being given.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1151.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1156.0", "colnum": "1156", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Oh, no.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "ter on the cheapest piece of political horse-trading in this century. Yet he has not even had to pay the price, as I understand it, of the electoral pottage which the Liberal Party hoped for. There are three Amendments referring to steel which are not being called but which are, of course, relevant to this debate. I was naturally delighted that steel had not been a feature in this Gracious Speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1155.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1156.1", "colnum": "1156", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "CIAL REPORT, 9th November, 1965; Vol. 720. c. 39.] I hope he will take the opportunity, or that one of his Ministers will, to delete that word \"unlikely\". The steel industry is in quite enough uncertainty at the present time. He has said, if I correctly understand the exchanges he has had with his own side of the House, that steel nationalisation remains part of the policy of the Socialist Party.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1156.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1156.1", "colnum": "1156", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "ften, and will debate again no doubt when the next General Election comes, of the exact responsibility and where it lies for 1964 and 1965. I think the House will agree that the start of this particular period of reflation which came to a halt in the first quartet of this year—I think I am right in saying that the production figures for September were released a few minutes ago and are down again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1156.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1160.1", "colnum": "1160", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "I took it from the Press.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1160.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1164.0", "colnum": "1164", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "That is true. The right hon. Gentleman has been to meeting after meeting and has come away from nearly every one triumphant; in each case with a scrap of paper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1164.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1164.0", "colnum": "1164", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "d quarter 6.7 per cent. I am sure that the Chancellor of the Exchequer must sometimes feel like saying, with Pyrrhus, \"One more victory like this and we are undone.\" While the Chancellor has been working hard during this time, Little Boy Brown has been blowing his horn up and down the country. We have had this long series of agreements which has led, in the end, to an utterly disastrous situation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1164.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1164.2", "colnum": "1164", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Macleod", "preceding_text": "y admitted in Whitehall last night\" was that \"we gave him the right figures —but, of course, the fellow cannot read \". If the Chancellor would now like the quotation, I hand it to him—on the strict understanding that I have it back. We are told that although there is some conflict between the two right hon. Gentlemen, there is no personal animus. I read this in five newspapers, so it must be right", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1164.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1167.1", "colnum": "1167", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh late.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (Mr. George Brown)", "preceding_text": "n. Members opposite today. The only time they cheered up was when they thought that the right hon. Gentleman was applauding some decline in the country's position. At every stage when he was talking about something which might go well they looked as miserable as sin. I will make a present of this point to the right hon. Gentleman for use, with suitable acknowledgements, in the Spectator this week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1167.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1194.1", "colnum": "1194", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Glover", "preceding_text": "00BD; per cent. This is where I part company with a great deal of what the Chancellor has done. I know that for temporary reasons he might have felt justified in hitting at overseas investments. But in the world as it is developing, I am sure that the long-term advantage to this country would be very much greater if we could build up our overseas investment from £11,000 million to £20,000 million.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1194.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1205.1", "colnum": "1205", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Bitten", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Bitten", "preceding_text": "onfidence trick nature of this exercise. I hope that it is understood that I do not use this term in any pejorative sense. There is a degree of nonsense in all our politics. We must acknowledge this to ourselves. There is a degree to which we hope we can sell things to the people without them necessarily understanding the full implications or extent. I do not want to prate on this particular line.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1205.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1252.3", "colnum": "1252", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Orme", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Orme", "preceding_text": "tries are created so that people can be moved to suitable employment. This must happen in relation to the steel industry, too. It is therefore essential that the industry be publicly owned. Having tabled the Amendment, which I support as drafted, and having taken part in discussions with my hon. Friends, I am confident that the steel industry will be publicly-owned at the earliest possible moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1252.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1261.1", "colnum": "1261", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "was a message of increasing; it was a message of cutting back. The Prime Minister said it was necessary to cut back on luxuries in order to build more houses. This is the Prime Minister's own argument—the \"candy floss \"argument that he talked so much about as Leader of the Opposition. It is nonsense now, as it was then. The Prime Minister knows that the amount of so-called luxury building is tiny.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1261.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1262.3", "colnum": "1262", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "reased by over £600 million a year in less than a year. All these factors are the consequence of 12 months of Labour Government and they did not appear in the Gracious Speech. They constitute the reason for our Amendment. At the moment the Government can rightly claim that the level of employment is high and that the balance of payments position has been improved. This is precisely as we expected.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1262.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1265.1", "colnum": "1265", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "act is that output, effort and production in this country have been falling over the months since January, 1965. Production has been falling and incomes have been rising at a very rapid rate indeed. The result of this can only be a rapid increase in prices and a rapid increase in prices can only result in our competitive position being impeded and our balance of payment situation being undermined.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1265.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1268.1", "colnum": "1268", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "ploy any central theme from which they could attack the Government's policy. We have had a great deal of destructive criticism of what the Government are doing. Until the right hon. Gentleman's intervention at the very last moment just now, we did not know whether there was even one vital aspect of our policies which they supported. But I gather that they support us on a prices and incomes policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1268.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1274.2", "colnum": "1274", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I should like to give way—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1274.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1274.6", "colnum": "1274", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "Yes, Sir, and I should not be at all surprised if the hon. Member reads my next election address if he will not see the first part of that there again. I do not know what the right hon. Member for Enfield, West is slapping his knee about. If he really thinks that we do not intend to take the major part of the steel industry into public ownership, he had better think again.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1274.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1275.0", "colnum": "1275", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "When?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "nd to take the major part of the steel industry into public ownership, he had better think again. [HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"] I do not mind very much whether or not the hon. Gentleman believes me. The simple truth about this industry—and this must be faced—is that it is in need of substantial reorganisation and that it will need substantial public money to carry it out. Nobody can dodge this question.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1274.6"}
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{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1275.4", "colnum": "1275", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "When?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I have been asked a specific question and I would like to get on with my speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1275.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1275.7", "colnum": "1275", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I have less than 10 minutes in which to complete my speech. Anyone who does not believe that these changes will be made is living in a fool's paradise. Of course, if the Opposition will offer us facilities—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1275.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1275.7", "colnum": "1275", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I have less than 10 minutes in which to complete my speech. Anyone who does not believe that these changes will be made is living in a fool's paradise. Of course, if the Opposition will offer us facilities—[HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] If they will not offer us facilities then we shall undertake the necessary reorganisation of this industry when we have got the majority to do it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1275.7"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-17", "file": "debates1965-11-17a.xml", "sha256": "e6c3d85ce97888db", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1276.1", "colnum": "1276", "heading": "ECONOMIC AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "On a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-17a.1276.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1309.1", "colnum": "1309", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — DIEGO GARCIA", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "Very well.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biggs-Davison", "preceding_text": "Can the Minister say how the Government's discussions are going on with a view to establishing an Anglo-American base?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1309.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1326.4", "colnum": "1326", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Howell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Howell", "preceding_text": "We have asked the authorities to continue to plan and send their proposals to us for the moment when the standstill is relieved.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1326.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1338.4", "colnum": "1338", "heading": "RHODESIA (H.M. GOVERNOR)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hastings", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hastings", "preceding_text": "While endorsing what has been said about the Governor's courage, may I ask the Prime Minister to ensure that he does not exploit the personal courage of Sir Humphrey Gibbs", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1338.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1362.1", "colnum": "1362", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And before that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "preceding_text": "ker those connected with the public service pensioners were probably amongst those who had the greatest joy. We welcome the Bill. It will bring some relief to the anxiety which has been expressed in recent months by public service pensioners, many of whom have naturally been alarmed at the effect upon their pensions of the rise in the cost of living which has taken place during the last 12 months.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1362.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1387.1", "colnum": "1387", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. C. Jennings", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. C. Jennings", "preceding_text": "t we shall be told that the legacy left by the Tory Government has prevented them from doing what they said they would do. We are tired of this story; it is wearing thin. However, looked at practically in view of the economic circumstances, when will \"the first opportunity\" come of at least going some way towards parity? There has been a change of heart on this side of the House, and I welcome it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1387.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1438.1", "colnum": "1438", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": " now would take no account whatsoever of any of their professions and statements made while they were on this side of the House, he would never have been credited. Indeed, even against the background of the party opposite, their behaviour in this matter is a quite peculiarly flagrant and cynical disregard of the pledges which they have made. The hon. and learned Member for Northampton (Mr. Paget)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1438.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1438.1", "colnum": "1438", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Listen to the frogs.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": " account whatsoever of any of their professions and statements made while they were on this side of the House, he would never have been credited. Indeed, even against the background of the party opposite, their behaviour in this matter is a quite peculiarly flagrant and cynical disregard of the pledges which they have made. The hon. and learned Member for Northampton (Mr. Paget)—[ Interruption. ]—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1438.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1441.0", "colnum": "1441", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "And they cheered it.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": "to announce the adoption by the new Government of the principle of one pension for one service, whenever it was rendered, I shall feel satisfied that my career has been worth while. There is nothing nearer to my heart than this. It is justice and real good sense and I believe that it would make a major contribution to our recruitment problem.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 5th March, 1964, Vol. 690, c. 1560.]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1438.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1442.4", "colnum": "1442", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Fortunately?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": "It so happens that fortunately we are not solely dependent even upon the extraordinarily—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1442.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1447.3", "colnum": "1447", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Niall MacDermot)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Niall MacDermot)", "preceding_text": "evious practice. But he explained to the House when he began his speech that he had only just come into the Chamber and had not been present throughout. Had he been here he would have known why the somewhat partisan atmosphere had been created on what he was commenting. Personally I regret it. I do not think that this is a subject which gains from being made the subject of partisan party politics.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1447.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-18", "file": "debates1965-11-18a.xml", "sha256": "4ba95cdb8e2319d8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1455.3", "colnum": "1455", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacDermot", "preceding_text": "I was not seeking my hon. Friend's solution to this problem, which I think I could have anticipated. What I was seeking was the solution of hon. Members opposite. I shall be very surprised if I learn what it is.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-18a.1455.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.26.6", "colnum": "26", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "It has been made clear now by the explicit statements of the United States Government that they are prepared to enter into unconditional discussions.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.26.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.28.1", "colnum": "28", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "It is clear that the last part of my hon. Friend's remarks will not stand up to examination.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.28.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.49.1", "colnum": "49", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "preceding_text": "I think that deeds speak louder than the hon. Gentleman's words. If we are talking of changes of personality at the Dispatch Box, I cannot help noticing that the hon. Member for Loughborough is not addressing the House from the Government Front Bench today. May I turn to Clauses 1 and 2—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.49.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.52.1", "colnum": "52", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "preceding_text": " other sense behind it. I should have thought that we could take advantage of the Bill to get the Corporations on all fours in this respect. I should like now to say a word about the vexed question of the B.O.A.C.-Cunard agreement, to which the Minister referred. He made it quite clear that he and the Government do not like it and that they would not have made the agreement had they been in power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.52.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.63.0", "colnum": "63", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "It is very easy. A firm contract is sometimes arrived at because somebody wants to buy something and thinks it is a fair price, and sometimes it is arrived at by somebody else saying, \"This is a bit high, mate. We will give you a little lolly towards it\", and the contract is entered into.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.63.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.67.3", "colnum": "67", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "I did not see him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.67.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.72.0", "colnum": "72", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Ah.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "er for Mitcham, for both of whom, as I have said, I have a great respect. Mr. Keith Granville has said it and I know him well. I just happen to know that a great many conversations went on between the then Minister and the then Chairman. I happen to know that the then Chairman and the then Managing Director were very unhappy—terribly unhappy—about it, and I put two and two together and made four——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.71.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.72.2", "colnum": "72", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Nicholas Ridley", "preceding_text": "Mr. Nicholas Ridley (Cirencester and Tewkesbury) rose ——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.72.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.75.3", "colnum": "75", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "er hon. Members have the advantage I have got of having a copy of the agreement and being able to peruse it? The fact of the matter is that the agreement was not published because the parties to it dared not face the howl of criticism that would have gone up if it had been published. Here is the agreement, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I will drop it on a table in the Library when I walk out of the Chamber.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.75.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.75.3", "colnum": "75", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mikardo", "preceding_text": "ive a fair wind to this Bill, but I hope that I have not gone too far in suggesting to my right hon. Friend that in so doing we have the right to put forward some of our doubts about the present management of B.O.A.C. and its commercial operations which my right hon. Friend should seriously take into account. My right hon. Friend has been one of the great successes of a very successful Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.75.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.80.1", "colnum": "80", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. V. Harvey", "preceding_text": "r of about £450,000. The Corporation's affairs were not in very good shape at the time. Morale was low. We have been told by the Minister that there was a very big staff at the time, 21,000 or 22,000, I think, and it is now coming down to 16,000. I thought and said at the time that Cunard was making a rather bad investment. Nothing has been said about what Cunard have to offer in the organisation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.80.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.89.1", "colnum": "89", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cronin", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cronin", "preceding_text": "I am strongly opposed to any part of the equity of B.O.A.C. or of B.E.A., or of any other nationalised corporation, being handed over to the public.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.89.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.114.3", "colnum": "114", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "ot by what the party opposite did not do when it was in power. I accept that, and I have no grudge about it. But it is a simple fact that this enormous pile-up of persons operating for good or partially good reasons at London Airport was solely caused by the inactivity of the party opposite. There was a basic reason for that. Hon. Members opposite hated the very guts of the word \"nationalisation\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.114.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-22", "file": "debates1965-11-22a.xml", "sha256": "937b54b8e588c599", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.117.1", "colnum": "117", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AIR CORPORATIONS BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "l reasons, to show the flag. If the right hon. Member for Mitcham defends this policy of showing the flag for political reasons, I would ask him to support me in proposing that aircraft be used not merely for political and economic reasons but also for social reasons. That is why I support my hon. Friend the Member for Dundee, West in his attitude. He want a service from Dundee for social reasons—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-22a.117.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.229.3", "colnum": "229", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lee", "preceding_text": "I have mentioned that there is now a shortage of plant. This does have its effect on the stage at which the boards can begin to make their plant ready for the winter. In other words, they have to keep longer in commission during the summer period plant that they would otherwise be renovating against the winter period—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.229.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.230.1", "colnum": "230", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And the shortages\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "preceding_text": "In order to get this matter quite straight, does the right hon. Gentleman recall that the plans on which he is relying now were made by the previous Administration?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.230.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.233.4", "colnum": "233", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF POWER", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Palmer", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Palmer", "preceding_text": "Will my right hon. Friend agree that these are devoted engineers, devoted public servants—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.233.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.245.2", "colnum": "245", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — VIETNAM", "cue_speaker": "Several Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Several Hon. Members", "preceding_text": "rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.245.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.253.1", "colnum": "253", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heller", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heller", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that the resolution passed by the United Nations is widely welcomed in this country?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.253.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.254.0", "colnum": "254", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. J. Amery", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What do you want to do then?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. J. Amery", "preceding_text": "Will the Prime Minister recall that, on the 11th November, he said: …we do not contemplate … any national action, and, may I say, any international action, for the purpose of coercing even the illegal Government of Rhodesia into a constitutional posture.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 11 th November, 1965; Vol. 720, c. 360–1.]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.254.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.257.1", "colnum": "257", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "riend the Member for Aberdeen, South (Lady Tweedsmuir), will not the Prime Minister recall that he himself told the House that, as a result of the action in Rhodesia and the Enabling Bill, Rhodesia had become to an even greater extent the responsibility only of the British Government, and therefore the explanation which the Prime Minister has given of the reason why the Government did not abstain—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.257.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.258.0", "colnum": "258", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You answer it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "n our legal responsibility for Rhodesia and the fact that, as I have said, this is a matter for world concern. It is easy for the right hon. Gentleman to deplore that it is a matter for world concern, but he has to answer the question whether he is prepared to see the Commonwealth break up on this issue. This is one of the questions that the right hon. Gentleman must face, and I hope that he will.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.258.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.258.0", "colnum": "258", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "o deplore that it is a matter for world concern, but he has to answer the question whether he is prepared to see the Commonwealth break up on this issue. This is one of the questions that the right hon. Gentleman must face, and I hope that he will. [HON. MEMBERS: \"You answer it.\"] I am dealing with the point made by the right hon. Gentleman, in which he tried to suggest that I should be concerned—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.258.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.258.2", "colnum": "258", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I was explaining why, although we say that we have a special responsibility for Rhodesia, we cannot ignore world opinion. It would be perfectly easy to do so and to stand upon the constitutional doctrine. The result would be bloodshed in Rhodesia and perhaps throughout the whole of Africa.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.258.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.292.0", "colnum": "292", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "ign of character and that to have money makes one what I might call a financial security risk. It raises a question of dubiety about how one acquired it. The poor shall inherit the earth, but not apparently: This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England. It is difficult for a rich man to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, but apparently comparatively simple for him to get into this country.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.292.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.309.1", "colnum": "309", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"How do you know?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "The purpose of my Amendment was to enable us to have a debate on a subject which is of interest and importance. I thought it was right that we should have this debate. I must say that I lean a little nearer to the right hon. and learned Gentleman's view than some of his hon. Friends.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.309.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.321.2", "colnum": "321", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "er of dependants who are coming in. Are there any figures of the number of dependants waiting to come in? I think that in the public interest more consideration of this problem is necessary. I agree with the hon. Member for Glasgow, Kelvingrove (Dr. Miller) that, in general, when a man is over here it is better for him to have his wife with him. I am not so happy about three wives coming with him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.321.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.322.1", "colnum": "322", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thorneycroft", "preceding_text": "I am delighted to hear that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.322.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.364.0", "colnum": "364", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Integrated?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Michael Foot", "preceding_text": "It is a justifiable proposition that every wave of immigration we have had into this country has benefited this country. The only people who can possibly protest against that proposition are the Celts who were driven into Wales, into Cornwall and into parts of Scotland. I do not see how we Anglo-Norman-Saxons can protest at that for what a lot of mongrels we are, including many on the Front Bench.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.364.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.372.0", "colnum": "372", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Farr", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not, what is wrong with it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Farr", "preceding_text": "uced in August by the Government gave the door a further push and made it more difficult for immigrants to enter the country. I believe most sincerely, and without any reference to the opinions held by my Front Bench, that it is our duty to advocate complete closure of this door until such time as those immigrants who are with us can be absorbed properly. I do not like to use the word \"integrate\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.372.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.389.1", "colnum": "389", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "sses. If not another soul came into our land from tonight, there would be another million little ones knocking at the doors of our schools within five years and in the next five years there would be another million. That is an additional two million children pressing for admission to our schools where already two out of every seven are in oversized classes. We are looking under stones for teachers", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.389.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.393.5", "colnum": "393", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": "general grant takes into account extra expenditure by local authorities. But we hope that powers will be taken when Parliamentary time permits—possibly during the coming Session—which will case the pressure on the social services in those areas that are carrying special burdens. Before resuming my seat may I say that we have heard some hard words in the course of the evening about the Home Office.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.393.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.393.5", "colnum": "393", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas", "preceding_text": " words in the course of the evening about the Home Office. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I often wonder how some of those who are so harsh in what they have to say about the Home Office would deal with these problems if they were at the Home Office. Do they think that we approach our work by abandoning all the principles that we have ever had? Do they think that when we get inside the Home Office—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.393.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.419.0", "colnum": "419", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Norman St. John-Stevas", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Norman St. John-Stevas", "preceding_text": " described by my hon. Friend the Member for Rugby (Mr. Wise) as irrelevant, and I think that strictly speaking that is correct, but no blame for its irrelevancy rests on the hon. Member for Ebbw Vale, because he has remained consistent to his principles, and he has had the mortifying experience of seeing the leadership and the bulk of his party move on and leave him alone on his rock of principle.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.419.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.429.1", "colnum": "429", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Coloured water?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "e is a certain to and fro. But what bedevils and bewilders us is the strange coming together of the Front Benches. I have said that there is no shortage of sincerity. Who on earth could accuse an hon. Member like the Joint Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department of insincerity? He is the sweetest one we have ever had, and will be welcome to take a glass of water with me whenever he likes.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.429.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.454.1", "colnum": "454", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Freeson", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Freeson", "preceding_text": "xample to us, for we sorely need it. Racialism threatens us all and not just the immigrants. That is why some of us are so concerned about the deterioration in race relations which has gone on during the past year and which has been symptomatic in the production of the White Paper and its surrender under pressure from the Opposition and other quarters in the country. I hope that I have said enough", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.454.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.465.0", "colnum": "465", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Buchan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"He does.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Buchan", "preceding_text": "r the present problem in England. It is the colour problem. This is what is causing the difficulty. For once the right hon. Member for Monmouth (Mr. Thorneycroft) was correct. After all, my country has been exporting 30,000 people a year to England, but I have not heard any complaints about it. The right hon. Member for Monmouth does not complain about the Scots people occupying houses in England—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.465.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-23", "file": "debates1965-11-23a.xml", "sha256": "97d6c81779433706", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.465.0", "colnum": "465", "heading": "Orders of the Day — EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Buchan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Buchan", "preceding_text": "ct. After all, my country has been exporting 30,000 people a year to England, but I have not heard any complaints about it. The right hon. Member for Monmouth does not complain about the Scots people occupying houses in England—[An HON. MEMBER: \"He does.\"] Well, he had better not say so in my area. I am sorry that the Minister of Labour has gone, since he made a speech which I was about to answer.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-23a.465.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.528.1", "colnum": "528", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Extra-territorial?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "No, that is not so. The powers under Section 3(1, c ) relate entirely to Southern Rhodesia and operate only as part of the law of Southern Rhodesia—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.528.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.545.1", "colnum": "545", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": "of the Rhodesian people. Suppose it were to get through to the people of Rhodesia that this House proposed, on the very first day we discussed the Rhodesian Constitution, that, even although we were passing an Order for abolishing part of the Constitution, we were making it clear at the same time that we stood by the 1961 Constitution. That, I say, would be an act almost of incitement to violence.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.545.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.547.1", "colnum": "547", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Foot", "preceding_text": ", being rather coy today—what is their answer to the position of another loyal citizen of the Crown, Miss Judith Todd. What do the Government say about her position? I should like to read to the House—I dare say that hon. Members have read it but I feel that it should be read out in this Chamber—an extract from a letter she wrote to the Prime Minister. Miss Todd has taken a very courageous action.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.547.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.551.1", "colnum": "551", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Derek Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Derek Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": " time of crisis and passed, of course, to safeguard this country against the perils which were then awaiting us. What hon. Member, by any process of prophecy or divination, could imagine that in less than 30 years those very powers given for such a different purpose were to be invoked to coerce the wills and damage the economy of those then hastening to the aid of this country in its hour of need?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.551.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.553.0", "colnum": "553", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "t of every Member of this House, and he has it. I should like to know whether he thinks that it is a constitutional and democratic doctrine applicable only in Great Britain or whether it is applicable in Rhodesia too. If it is applicable in Rhodesia, what recommendation is he making to the Government to see that these propositions are made active and effective in Southern Rhodesia in the light of—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.553.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.555.3", "colnum": "555", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "nment with his agreement. The hon. Gentleman is, as the House knows and delights in, a most eminent and successful journalist. There was another eminent and perhaps even more successful journalist, Lord Northcliffe, who observed: Dog bites man, not news; man bites dog, news. The hon. Gentleman criticises the Government, not news; if he were to support the Government then that would be news indeed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.555.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.555.3", "colnum": "555", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir D. Walker-Smith", "preceding_text": "lwyn Lloyd) said, it is no good this House taking power to govern Rhodesia from Whitehall unless we see our way to do so and know that we can. We have to face the fact that in so far as we are seeking, no doubt reluctantly, to govern Rhodesia from Whitehall, a country separated from this country by thousands of miles and by two generations of virtual self-government, we are putting the clock back.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.555.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.565.1", "colnum": "565", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir G. Nicholson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir G. Nicholson", "preceding_text": "e 'thirties. We were asked to be sympathetic to the German point of view—defeated in a great war, not in the field, but by political subversion behind the line, the loss of colonies, etcetera. People had great sympathy with them. Their view was understandable. There was a great deal more reason for appeasing Germany then than there is for appeasing the present illegal Government of Rhodesia today.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.565.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.604.0", "colnum": "604", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"How?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Paget", "preceding_text": "aintained to keep it on. I have been critical of the Prime Minister in this matter. I believe that principles were conceded long ago when we allowed the Rhodesian party to take power. I am on record at the time as having said so. If one allows a party pledged to independence to take power one must accept the independence when it comes, because one has no other option. One can stop it taking power—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.604.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.607.3", "colnum": "607", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Tatton Brinton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Tatton Brinton", "preceding_text": "is it that today there are laid before the House measures which relate not to force but to sanctions? Why are so many hon. Members keen to flourish the sword and anxious to open the purple testament of bleeding war? The first one to fire off was the hon. Member for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Michael Foot) who, I had always understood, held basically a rather pacifist point of view. Yet he was demanding force.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.607.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.622.1", "colnum": "622", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. T. L. Iremonger", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. T. L. Iremonger", "preceding_text": "Connoisseurs of the House of Commons know that we owe a genuine tribute to the hon. Member for Dunbartonshire, East (Mr. Bence), because we know that when the House gets thin and speakers on this side of the House start to outnumber speakers on the Government side of the House, the usual channels go into the tea room, search around and find the hon. Member for Dunbartonshire, East", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.622.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.659.3", "colnum": "659", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "to tell us now that we are to study this question. I asked this question on Second Reading of the Enabling Bill. The Attorney-General rode off on the ground that he was so unfamiliar with this kind of legislation he did not understand the question. I raised it again at 6 o'clock this afternoon. It has been raised by my right hon. and learned Friend on the Front Bench. It was raised quite recently—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.659.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.659.3", "colnum": "659", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir K. Pickthorn", "preceding_text": "bling Bill. The Attorney-General rode off on the ground that he was so unfamiliar with this kind of legislation he did not understand the question. I raised it again at 6 o'clock this afternoon. It has been raised by my right hon. and learned Friend on the Front Bench. It was raised quite recently—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Speech.\"]—by my hon. Friend the Member for Crosby (Mr. Graham Page), and it has been—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.659.3"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.660.3", "colnum": "660", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"NO.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "The right hon. and learned Gentleman will know that Section 3(1, c ) Orders will be subject to scrutiny. This point was made perfectly clear by my right hon. and learned Friend when he opened the debate. May I turn—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.660.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-24", "file": "debates1965-11-24a.xml", "sha256": "587044e6ae46308b", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.667.3", "colnum": "667", "heading": "SOUTHERN RHODESIA (CONSTITUTION ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Rear-Admiral Morgan Giles", "preceding_text": "Rear-Admiral Morgan Giles rose ——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-24a.667.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.751.2", "colnum": "751", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The difference is that I was there and the hon. Member was not. He is relying on a slanted account which appeared in the Daily Mail two mornings later.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.751.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.751.4", "colnum": "751", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I do not recall what The Times said, unless the right hon. Gentleman is referring—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.751.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.758.1", "colnum": "758", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — EDUCATION AND SCIENCE", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "My right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary will, of course, be discussing this in Moscow next week. We have been seeking all along to get the Geneva Conference reactivated, and it has been made quite clear by the American Government that they are prepared to have discussions on the basis of the 1954 Geneva settlement. This is what all of us want to see.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.758.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.760.2", "colnum": "760", "heading": "BAKERY INDUSTRY (DISPUTE)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": " action which has been taken? Is it not an industrial dispute which is continuing today and has not the Minister of Labour a statutory responsibility to deal with it? Is it correct that only an hour was spent last night in trying to deal with this problem in the usual way? Has he not now passed his statutory responsibilities over to the First Secretary and then to the Board for Prices and Incomes?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.760.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.763.0", "colnum": "763", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No:", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bowden", "preceding_text": "It is never very convenient to divide a debate into two days in that way. I would have thought there was a distinct advantage in having the debate when my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister returns from his Washington visit—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.763.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.771.1", "colnum": "771", "heading": "ARMED FORCES AND HIGHER CIVIL SERVICE (PAY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"He was.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "I cannot remember whether the right hon. Gentleman was or was not holding office in the 1962 Government.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.771.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.773.0", "colnum": "773", "heading": "ARMED FORCES AND HIGHER CIVIL SERVICE (PAY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": " which the right hon. Gentleman really ought to address himself. I say that I stand by the Grigg Report. The Grigg Report was for a system of biennial reviews. The Grigg system is based upon comparability. That is its only base. In the White Paper that is one of the criteria. What we are saying is that this must be judged against all the criteria set out in Part I and, in particular, paragraph 15.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.773.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.773.0", "colnum": "773", "heading": "ARMED FORCES AND HIGHER CIVIL SERVICE (PAY)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "ite Paper that is one of the criteria. What we are saying is that this must be judged against all the criteria set out in Part I and, in particular, paragraph 15. [ Interruption .] If the right hon. Gentleman would not bubble so much he would hear me better. I am dealing with this as a serious exercise, not looking, as the right hon. Gentleman is looking, merely for stalling points here and there.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.773.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.793.1", "colnum": "793", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Peyton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Peyton", "preceding_text": "to ask the right hon. Gentleman for more information about this. Does it represent any identified asset or is it simply the case that the Government take a cautious view of the future earning powers of the Board's colliery assets? I do not want to start an argument about private enterprise now, but this is not the sort of practice that would be permitted to private enterprise in any circumstances.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.793.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.802.1", "colnum": "802", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Impossible.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "preceding_text": " There are serious anomalies to be ironed out. Not the slightest good purpose will be served by flying kites. On this very difficult matter, specific proposals will be necessary, and soon. In my view, there can be no justification for most expensive machinery being under-used. Highly capitalised pits are really fuel factories, and they should be churning out coal 24 hours a day, seven days a week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.802.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.802.3", "colnum": "802", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Neal", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Neal", "preceding_text": "hich a return to 200 million tons a year production can be achieved. I believe that my right hon. Friend's estimate is much more sensible than that of Lord Robens. But why should there be this conflict between my right hon. Friend and the chairman of a nationalised industry for which my right hon. Friend has statutory responsibility? I hesitate to criticise a public servant who cannot answer back—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.802.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.818.1", "colnum": "818", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Alison", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Alison", "preceding_text": "o capitalise the coal industry. What do the Government intend to do to arrest this wastage in a prosperous area like the West Riding? The reason for the wastage is not hard to find. Average weekly earnings in the Yorkshire coalfield in 1964–65 were £18 1s. 6d. a week, not nearly high enough to keep men in the industry. Surface workers in particular were taking home an average of £14 a week—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.818.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.824.1", "colnum": "824", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "preceding_text": "ks. Having been connected with the mining industry for 40 years, 34 of them as a miner—30 of those as a coal-face worker—ind having spent six years in Parliament representing a mining constituency, I think I can claim to be able to speak on behalf of the miners in a coal debate. I regret to say that the only thing that has not been done so far in this debate is to take a collection for the Speaker", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.824.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.824.1", "colnum": "824", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomas Swain", "preceding_text": "try today is suffering from the policies of the Tory Party. That party has done everything in its power over the years to discredit nationalisation in the eyes of the world. If it had not been for the nationalisation of the coal mines in 1947 this country would have been bankrupt by 1955, and everyone who sits on the opposite side of the House whether he has spoken in this debate or not, knows it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.824.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.851.3", "colnum": "851", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Osborn", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Osborn", "preceding_text": "If I am allowed to continue my speech, I think hon. Members will agree that prepared notes give one a chance of going ahead quickly. I shall complete my speech as quickly as I can to allow other hon. Members to take part in the debate.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.851.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.860.0", "colnum": "860", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Shame.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Donald Box", "preceding_text": "they have known the conditions on both sides of the industry yet have failed to convey to the men under their jurisdiction how serious the condition of the industry has got in recent years. Despite the fact that they have seen economic disaster approaching, they have been either powerless or unwilling, or both, to tackle the many abuses that we all know have gone on in the industry for many years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.858.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.860.3", "colnum": "860", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "on the shoulders of what I repeat and emphasise are some members of the mining industry—some who have been utterly irresponsible and have subscribed to the average 20 per cent. absenteeism which we have had in the mining industry, regardless of the damage it was doing to both the industry and their future employment. We can think of the false claims for sickness and injury which are so well known—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.860.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.862.1", "colnum": "862", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": " the gas and electricity industries during the past week and then propose further nationalisation is utterly beyond my comprehension. There is hardly any wonder that the Government have dropped steel nationalisation like a hot potato. It is a great pity that, as a result of the huge losses made by the coal industry, it is not possible to return part of the industry, at any rate, to private owners.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.862.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.862.1", "colnum": "862", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "usiness was half returned to private enterprise the immediate competition which ensued had a most favourable effect on the industry as a whole. It was suggested recently that one of the gas boards should be handed back to private enterprise. Some way should be found, at least for those which have to be closed, for collieries to be run on a royalty basis and put out to tender by private enterprise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.862.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.867.2", "colnum": "867", "heading": "Orders of the Day — COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What about the hon. Member for Cardiff, North (Mr. Box)?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Patrick McNair-Wilson", "preceding_text": "arding this as a rather painful debate. Many hon. Members opposite who have had to face the situation of a contracting industry have done it with a very heavy heart. As my hon. Friend the Member for Yeovil (Mr. Peyton) said in opening for the Opposition, there is no one here who wishes to do anything but offer our very real and sincere belief that the industry can in the future move on to success.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.867.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-25", "file": "debates1965-11-25a.xml", "sha256": "eb06b7964068a347", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.898.5", "colnum": "898", "heading": "MILK", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hoy", "preceding_text": "I do not mind giving way, but the hon. Member should not distort his hon. Friend's argument. His hon. Friend was complaining about the present milk deliveries, and the hon. Member has just told the House that this milk is not delivered in rural areas. He said that it is confined to the city. He cannot have it both ways—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-25a.898.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1004.0", "colnum": "1004", "heading": "SCOTLAND (FADA-FIONN AND LAIDON HYDROELECTRIC SCHEMES)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Reading.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. G. Campbell", "preceding_text": "hemes and any further hydro-electric schemes? While the North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board has done and is doing an excellent job and has contributed greatly to the economy of the Highlands, should not the emphasis now be upon schemes such as the Cruachan scheme recently opened and started under the Conservative Government? This scheme has a capacity of 400 megawatts, about 100 times greater——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1003.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1012.1", "colnum": "1012", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "principle and want to take the charge off altogether. If the argument is that it should be reduced, I understand that that is at least an arguable case, though I should myself feel that this is not the right moment to do it. Moreover, as we discovered last time, if one announces in advance that one intends to reduce the charge, one gets the worst of all worlds, and we got a certain amount of that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1012.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1015.1", "colnum": "1015", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "ure that that is not true. Before I conclude, I should like to say a word about prices and wages. One of the satisfactory features of the present situation is the comparative steadiness of prices. This, of course, if coupled with an equivalent steadiness in wages, would help us towards our objective of balancing our payments much more quickly than anything else, except an increase in productivity.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1015.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1020.0", "colnum": "1020", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Have a try at it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "Very well, Mr. Speaker. I will merely put it this way, and I think that I will be in order. I hope to have the indulgence of the House as well as being in order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1020.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1063.3", "colnum": "1063", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Biffen", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Biffen", "preceding_text": " Sheldon), for Birkenhead (Mr. Dell) and for Heywood and Royton (Mr. Barnett), all felt that the charge, albeit that it had to be continued, suffered the serious defect that it lacked selective application. One appreciates that, for all their misgivings, they will support the Government tonight because we know that, on this occasion, the Asquithian relic will be voting with the Conservative Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1063.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1063.3", "colnum": "1063", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Biffen", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Biffen", "preceding_text": "ciates that, for all their misgivings, they will support the Government tonight because we know that, on this occasion, the Asquithian relic will be voting with the Conservative Party. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] One hopes so. I admit to having assumed that, if the residual elements of the Liberal Party cannot be dragged into the Lobby on an issue of world free trade, there must be very few issues left—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1063.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1065.1", "colnum": "1065", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Biffen", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Did you oppose them?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Biffen", "preceding_text": "om the benches opposite have talked about selectivity. Selectivity is the language of protection because one is assuming that in certain areas selectivity in import behaviour is required to produce a desired pattern for the balance of payments. It is just as selective in intent as were the McKenna duties, which envisaged the reintroduction of protection into this country after the First World War.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1065.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1076.3", "colnum": "1076", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": " my right hon. Friend. It is legitimate to ask, if the Order is being opposed by right hon. and hon. Gentlemen on the opposite benches, if they intend to vote upon it, what would have been their policy in the situation in which these Orders were introduced? Would it have been the selective cutting down of imports, as was implied by the right hon. Member for Barnet (Mr. Maudling) in November, 1964?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1076.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1109.3", "colnum": "1109", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bruce-Gardyne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bruce-Gardyne", "preceding_text": "No, I do not accept that at all. Clearly, my right hon. Friend was absolutely right to investigate various possibilities against the danger of the return of the party opposite to power.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1109.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1109.5", "colnum": "1109", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bruce-Gardyne", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bruce-Gardyne", "preceding_text": "No, I shall not give way again. There were various schemes which could have been considered. This one was selected by right hon. Gentlemen opposite, as I have said, in order to provide the right climate for an early election. We know that things went wrong, but they went wrong precisely because of this measure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1109.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1115.1", "colnum": "1115", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "preceding_text": "That is an entirely different matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1115.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1116.9", "colnum": "1116", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "preceding_text": "rge is effective and I see no evidence of a lack of confidence. The real breach of confidence took place many years before 1964. It started in 1951, and in not one of the years following 1951 did we match the export potential of this country. Our share of world markets fell every year, and in 1958 we lost out completely. Indeed, when the right hon. and learned Member for Wirral (Mr. Selwyn Lloyd)—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1116.9"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1118.4", "colnum": "1118", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "preceding_text": "I have done so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1118.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1119.3", "colnum": "1119", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "preceding_text": "After tonight I may be nominated for any future filibusters that might go on. The document is HANSARD.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1119.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1119.5", "colnum": "1119", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "preceding_text": "r said yesterday that we must have growth at home to stimulate exports as soon as possible. Hon. Members opposite cheered both statements.\"— some right hon. and hon. Members were there— The right hon. and learned Member for Wirral based his Budget on the need to safeguard the £ abroad, which, he said, meant restricting demand at home. That was the whole case for the pay pause. Yesterday, however\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1119.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1120.1", "colnum": "1120", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is wrong.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leadbitter", "preceding_text": "Mr. Deputy Speaker—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1120.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1124.1", "colnum": "1124", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Iain Macleod", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Iain Macleod", "preceding_text": "was repeating something he said before in this House—that so far as he knows the effect upon exports is negligible. That is a phrase he used this afternoon. I cannot believe that, if not in his Ministerial capacity then in his capacity as Member of Parliament for Cardiff, South-East, he has not received overwhelming evidence in his post-bag, as have we all, of the effect this has had upon exports.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1124.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1133.1", "colnum": "1133", "heading": "TEMPORARY IMPORT CHARGE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "due to the import charge. It can be argued whether it is £150 million, £200 million or even £250 million, but, whichever figure one takes, the saving has plainly made an essential contribution to the cut in the visible trade deficit, which in 1964 was running at £550 million a year. We have also managed to correct the deficit in a way which has inflicted the least possible harm on other countries.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1133.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-29", "file": "debates1965-11-29a.xml", "sha256": "13249407aaa4acc7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1180.2", "colnum": "1180", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING (SLUM CLEARANCE COMPENSATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Julius Silverman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Julius Silverman", "preceding_text": "ter of managing the Bill, to have extended the operation of the 1956 Act by five years. That would have saved the Parliamentary Secretary a good deal of trouble and argument. This is, I am sure, the feeling of hon. Members on this side of the House as well as on the other. I hope that my hon. Friend will look at this matter again. I suppose, if this goes to a vote, I will support him, but frankly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-29a.1180.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1227.5", "colnum": "1227", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Allaun", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Allaun", "preceding_text": "Will the Prime Minister agree that the moves so far do not meet the Parliamentary Labour Party resolution of that date?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1227.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1229.6", "colnum": "1229", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "Is my right hon. Friend aware that there is disquiet in some circles not only about the activities of some busybodies but also about Government interference in certain programmes——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1229.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1231.4", "colnum": "1231", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "No, Sir. The statement made by my right hon. Friend made quite clear the circumstances in which that interchange occurred last week.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1231.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1232.2", "colnum": "1232", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "If the point of the right hon. Gentleman's question is to ask when we shall make a statement on transport co-ordination, we are very hard at work on this, but—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1232.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1246.5", "colnum": "1246", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Give way.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "This is a courtesy rather than a point of order. I cannot rule on this.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1246.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1256.0", "colnum": "1256", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "If the Government have a policy on this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1256.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1256.0", "colnum": "1256", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "If the Government have a policy on this—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"]—I am proposing to answer: hon. Members should not be so impatient. If the Government have a policy of which they are proud, it is normal for the Government to find time for their own Measures. If they are not proud of it, we take note of that fact—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1256.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1260.1", "colnum": "1260", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": " to the Cereal Marketing Authority for organising contracts in advance. This would have been a practical way in which to help orderly marketing. It is a great pity that opportunity has not been taken to do something of this sort. Part II of the Bill, dealing with farm structure, marks an interesting new development. It has been widely discussed since the proposals first emerged in the White Paper.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1260.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1260.1", "colnum": "1260", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "unity has not been taken to do something of this sort. Part II of the Bill, dealing with farm structure, marks an interesting new development. It has been widely discussed since the proposals first emerged in the White Paper. [ Interruption. ] The Joint Parliamentary Secretary makes an interesting point. There has been time for discussion, but not for the detailed consultation which was necessary.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1260.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1260.1", "colnum": "1260", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "structure has been exercising the minds of those concerned with agriculture, both in this country and elsewhere, for some years. Modern farming techniques often require larger units for economic production. Indeed, during the last 12 years there has been a reduction of 50,000 in the number of farms of less than 50 acres in Britain, and, of course, there has been a rise in some of the larger farms.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1260.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1260.1", "colnum": "1260", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "extent to which it is made use of and the extent to which it accelerates the present decline in the number of small farms. We are told that the cost of this provision is outside the aggregate of Price Review moneys. That is important, because it is a substantial sum. But I am bound to ask: if this is so, what quid pro quo is the Treasury calling for from Agricultural Ministers for this generosity?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1260.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1265.0", "colnum": "1265", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "ther this is so. We are told that it is estimated that it will still be worth £11 million a year in grants and that this is in line with the recent rate. However, the Minister was kind enough to let us have a Press hand-out on the farm improvement scheme—it is dated 17th November—when the Bill came out. There are some very interesting figures at the end of it, which are given in cumulative totals.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1265.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1347.1", "colnum": "1347", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where is he?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": "o be the possibility of 10 per cent. on hill and field drainage, and the right hon. Member for Thirsk and Malton will be glad to know that we have promised to consider the problem of the upland farm. The proposal for a rural development board has come in for some examination and I am glad to say that my hon. Friends have rather welcomed it. Once again I was disappointed by the new shadow Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1347.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1347.1", "colnum": "1347", "heading": "Orders of the Day — AGRICULTURE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ross", "preceding_text": " into Europe. We take quite a different view of agriculture. We want to help it play an even more vital part in restoring the nation's economy, not, like the party opposite, to reduce the cost of Exchequer support regardless of the effect on agriculture, and we are prepared to spend Exchequer money in a good cause. That is why we are putting this extra £80 million into the farm improvement scheme.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1347.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1359.0", "colnum": "1359", "heading": "AGRICULTURE [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. James Hoy)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. James Hoy)", "preceding_text": "I have been a little surprised at the speeches to which we have just listened—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1359.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-11-30", "file": "debates1965-11-30a.xml", "sha256": "6bdb980091e09de3", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1361.2", "colnum": "1361", "heading": "AGRICULTURE [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Godber", "preceding_text": "ot true that the rate of payment will be as great as it has been over recent months. It has been growing steadily way beyond the £11 million to which the hon. Gentleman referred. Because the Government know that they are cutting back, they are employing these shabby tactics, They cannot be proud of what they are doing. They have committed themselves to this amount. We shall take no further action—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-11-30a.1361.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1402.6", "colnum": "1402", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ROADS", "cue_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir W. Bromley-Davenport", "preceding_text": "rose ——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1402.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1436.0", "colnum": "1436", "heading": "ZAMBIA (BRITISH FORCES) and RHODESIA (ECONOMIC MEASURES)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I made it plain that any request from the Governor—we have no dealings with Mr. Smith—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1436.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1438.1", "colnum": "1438", "heading": "ZAMBIA (BRITISH FORCES) and RHODESIA (ECONOMIC MEASURES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "his mind on this subject. I only wish to ask him for one clear undertaking. He has said that the forces going to Zambia—which we support—are for purely defensive purposes. As he has never intended to use national or international forces in Rhodesia, in fact this means that these forces in Zambia will not cross on to Rhodesian soil or infringe Rhodesian air space, even if there is action in Kariba.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1438.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1439.1", "colnum": "1439", "heading": "ZAMBIA (BRITISH FORCES) and RHODESIA (ECONOMIC MEASURES)", "cue_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Alec Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "It is essential that the Prime Minister should make his position absolutely clear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1439.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1442.4", "colnum": "1442", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "What the Prime Minister said represents the gravest statement we have yet had from the present Government on this terribly difficult situation. Let us make no mistake about that. It is the first time that we have heard threats bandied about in the House about deterrents—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1442.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1442.4", "colnum": "1442", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "t that. It is the first time that we have heard threats bandied about in the House about deterrents—[ Interruption. ]—and about the possible use of force by the Smith régime. So far as I am aware, the Smith régime has made no reference to the possible use of force by that régime. Yet we are now embarking on what I can only call a highly dangerous and highly provocative policy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1442.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1442.8", "colnum": "1442", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "me if I do not give way but continue with my speech. It may be that the Prime Minister is right in saying that legally it would not be an act of war, but make no mistake that it would he the bloodiest act of civil war, and from that there would ensue a holocaust in that part of Africa with literally our own British people fighting against British people in Rhodesia. That would be the result of it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1442.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1443.3", "colnum": "1443", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "I will not give way at the moment. I hope now to bring down the temperature of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1443.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1443.4", "colnum": "1443", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Really.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "and will delay me making this point. I wish to be as brief as I can because hon. Members on both sides of the House also wish to speak. I hope to bring the temperature of the House down a little by, first, giving my heartiest congratulations to Her Majesty's Government for their brilliant conduct—which was full of guts, determination and courage—at the United Nations concerning the matter of Fiji.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1443.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1444.2", "colnum": "1444", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Give way.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "The Security Council——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1444.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1446.1", "colnum": "1446", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "pened in Rhodesia? Basically, this was a sparse land of many nomadic tribes, living under witchcraft, divided, massacring each other in tribal wars, subject to the most terrible diseases, incapable of coping with animal diseases in their herds, such as those caused by the tsetse fly. They were decimated, and were not increasing. They were living a life of the greatest fear, not only of each other—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1446.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1448.3", "colnum": "1448", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What we want them to have.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "I am grateful for that intervention, because once again it will take me on a little faster, and I have much to say. The simple answer to the question why the Rhodesians are not keen to give what the United Nations wants them to have—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1448.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1448.3", "colnum": "1448", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "I am grateful for that intervention, because once again it will take me on a little faster, and I have much to say. The simple answer to the question why the Rhodesians are not keen to give what the United Nations wants them to have—[HON. MEMBERS: \"What we want them to have.\"]—I am glad to hear that it is what all hon. Members opposite want, although it is not what the Prime Minister wants—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1448.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1448.3", "colnum": "1448", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "ittle faster, and I have much to say. The simple answer to the question why the Rhodesians are not keen to give what the United Nations wants them to have—[HON. MEMBERS: \"What we want them to have.\"]—I am glad to hear that it is what all hon. Members opposite want, although it is not what the Prime Minister wants—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Answer the question.\"]—one man, one vote in Rhodesia straight away.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1448.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1448.3", "colnum": "1448", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Not the hon. Member.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "all hon. Members opposite want, although it is not what the Prime Minister wants—[An HON. MEMBER: \"Answer the question.\"]—one man, one vote in Rhodesia straight away. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] That is what the United Nations is after. If all hon. Members opposite and the Prime Minister say, \"Oh, not today\", will they please tell me who knows best when the Africans will be qualified to govern Rhodesia?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1448.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1449.1", "colnum": "1449", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": " no one can deny it. We are now in a position in which we say that we have to go on ruling Rhodesia until such time as Rhodesia agrees in some negotiations on what she is to do about bringing one man, one vote to Rhodesia. We had negotiations, and I shall not say much about them because this matter has been gone over time and again. Mr. Smith was given only the choice between Scylla and Charybdis.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1449.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1449.4", "colnum": "1449", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "hen living in a country such as Rhodesia, which is surrounded by nations that are African-dominated, and living in a country around which one has seen country after country given independence over the last few years and watched with horror and sometimes disbelief thousands upon thousands of Africans being slaughtered in the course of Uhuru—for Uhuru does not mean freedom so much as it means death—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1449.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1450.4", "colnum": "1450", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "I should have thought that the hon. Member would have some fear such as the Rhodesians have about handing their country over to a régime dominated by Africans in the light of the tragedies which have surrounded them over the past few years. Quite apart from anything else—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1450.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1453.3", "colnum": "1453", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"One Member.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "I am glad to see that at least some hon. Members on the other side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1453.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1453.3", "colnum": "1453", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": " get rid of one of her best customers? Of course not. Only a fool would use that argument. We heard the argument used today that if there is interruption of supplies to Zambia from Kariba we would regard this, apparently, as an act of war and we would send British troops. At least that is what I understood from the Prime Minister's statement, that we could not ignore that and would have to attack—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1453.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1453.3", "colnum": "1453", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: Of course.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "od from the Prime Minister's statement, that we could not ignore that and would have to attack—[ Interruption. ] I am sorry, but this is what was said, and we must examine it carefully for a moment. Did it not occur to anyone in the House, when the pylon was blown up the other day, a few days before President Kaunda asked for troops, that this was another move in the direction of the use of force?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1453.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1455.3", "colnum": "1455", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "rtion and a monstrous distortion of the facts. Yet, time and again, we have heard from the Government Front Bench epithets being thrown at the Rhodesians which were never used against the revolutionary rulers of Zanzibar, epithets which have seldom been used against our enemies. We are now talking of our friends the Rhodesians, the friends of Britain and, what is more, the friends of the Africans—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1455.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1457.3", "colnum": "1457", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "—who has the guts to say what he believes is General de Gaulle in France.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1457.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1476.4", "colnum": "1476", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Amery", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"What Rhodesians?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Amery", "preceding_text": " will be called for, so it is very important that if the Government succeed in gaining time they should make the best use of it. When we spoke on these matters three weeks ago I urged that we should gain as much time as possible. My feeling today is that we should make use as quickly as we can of any time gained in order to reach a settlement with the Rhodesians before things go very much further.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1476.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1483.1", "colnum": "1483", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "The Minister of State, Commonwealth Relations Office (Mr. Cledwyn Hughes)", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"So is the present situation.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Minister of State, Commonwealth Relations Office (Mr. Cledwyn Hughes)", "preceding_text": "Perhaps it would be for the convenience of the House if I intervene at this stage. I do not propose to make a long speech, because other hon. Members wish to speak. I regret to say that I think that the hon. Member for Yarmouth (Mr. Fell) made one of the most reactionary speeches it has ever been my misfortune to listen to during my membership of this House. It was a depressing speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1483.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1494.3", "colnum": "1494", "heading": "CENTRAL AFRICA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Norwood", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Norwood", "preceding_text": "aised by the mover of this Motion? It was, in effect, that African people are unfit to govern themselves and that there has been disorder all over Africa. The hon. Member asked if people living in the Congo were content with their situation. It was a rhetorical question and the answer is simple, but we have to ask ourselves whether the people living in Rhodesia can be content with their situation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1494.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1536.1", "colnum": "1536", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peter Walker", "preceding_text": "Mr. Peter Walker rose ——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1536.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1550.1", "colnum": "1550", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "The party opposite takes a much keener interest in the whole subject of pensions at election time than it does at twenty minutes past nine in the evening in Committee on the Bill, when the quorum is provided only by this side—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1550.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1554.1", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": "raise this matter in the way he has just done. There is no reference whatever, I would submit, on the rules of order which cover this debate, that a British citizen, whether he is resident in this country or in any part of the world, can lose his civil rights for almost all reasons, for a multiplicity of reasons, as my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary will very quickly explain to the Committee.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1554.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1554.1", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"You are not.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": " I would submit, on the rules of order which cover this debate, that a British citizen, whether he is resident in this country or in any part of the world, can lose his civil rights for almost all reasons, for a multiplicity of reasons, as my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary will very quickly explain to the Committee. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"] I am making this submission now on a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1554.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1554.1", "colnum": "1554", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Price", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Price", "preceding_text": "the Financial Secretary will very quickly explain to the Committee. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"] I am making this submission now on a point of order. [HON. MEMBERS: \"You are not.\"] Of course. The Chairman will tell me when I am out of order, not hon. Members opposite. I am making a serious submission to the Chair that the point raised, with the special provisions announced today by the Prime Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1554.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1556.1", "colnum": "1556", "heading": "Orders of the Day — PENSIONS (INCREASE) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gower", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gower", "preceding_text": "Is not the Financial Secretary appalled by the inhumanity of this decision?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1556.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1583.1", "colnum": "1583", "heading": "Orders of the Day — INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gordon A. T. Bagier", "cue_text": "HoN. MEMBERS: \"He said nothing of the kind.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gordon A. T. Bagier", "preceding_text": " short oration from the hon. Member for Reading (Mr. Peter Emery), one can readily understand what happened during the 13 years of Tory Government. The hon. Gentleman's remarks amply illustrate that Government's complete failure to appreciate that, in a small and compact community like ours, there must be some measure of planning. When the hon. Gentleman implies that we must allow a free- for-all—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1583.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1586.1", "colnum": "1586", "heading": "Orders of the Day — INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATES", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cyril Bence", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Nonsense.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cyril Bence", "preceding_text": "I have some knowledge of the Midlands. I am surprised to hear what the right hon. Gentleman had to say about the little man in the City of Birmingham. My experience in Birmingham over 40 years has been that it is difficult for the little man, even before I.D.C.s, to get started in Birmingham.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1586.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1593.5", "colnum": "1593", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RAILWAYS (EAST ANGLIA)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Norwood", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Norwood", "preceding_text": "as they may later emerge—would not be proceeded with until regional planning arrangements had become clear. My right hon. Friend went on to make a second point, which perhaps has been somewhat misunderstood in certain parts of British Railways in East Anglia. He said: Even in those cases where I think it right to grant consent the track will be retained for the time being unless I agree otherwise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1593.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-01", "file": "debates1965-12-01a.xml", "sha256": "20567df49fb91eff", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1593.5", "colnum": "1593", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RAILWAYS (EAST ANGLIA)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Norwood", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Shocking.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Norwood", "preceding_text": "to think of other ones—where this does not seem to have happened. According to the information that I received only a little while ago, the railways have seen fit to lift the rails at Wells station—admittedly one of the lines that has been closed—without informing the urban district council, and despite the fact that a local industrialist was at the time hoping to bring materials into the station—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-01a.1593.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1611.6", "colnum": "1611", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Kerr", "preceding_text": "Is my hon. Friend aware that these tablets do not do what they purport to do—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1611.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1623.0", "colnum": "1623", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Gregory", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Too long.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Gregory", "preceding_text": "I am sure that industry will welcome the statement which my right hon. Friend has made, but would he also take into account the export potential to some 10 countries overseas where there is a good grid system and expanding industry and also a high electrical demand where A.G.R. can certainly be of great interest? Furthermore—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1623.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1623.5", "colnum": "1623", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "Does that Answer mean that the costs were incurred by other Departments? Can my right hon. Friend say whether there was any initiative on the part of his Department when this trip was first suggested? Or did the initiative come from elsewhere? Can he say what return we are going to get from it—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1623.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1624.0", "colnum": "1624", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Shame.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamilton", "preceding_text": "partments? Can my right hon. Friend say whether there was any initiative on the part of his Department when this trip was first suggested? Or did the initiative come from elsewhere? Can he say what return we are going to get from it—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—and will he say whether the Labour Government are going to stop conniving at this kind of extravagant nonsense by this very expensive young lady?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1623.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1624.1", "colnum": "1624", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — BOARD OF TRADE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jay", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend must address questions about other Departments' expenditure to those Departments, but from the reports I have this visit was of assistance to British exports—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1624.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1634.3", "colnum": "1634", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Hamilton", "preceding_text": "On a point of order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1634.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1635.0", "colnum": "1635", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "This one does not.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "It deals with pensions——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1634.10"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1635.2", "colnum": "1635", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I am withdrawing nothing and I skipped over nothing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1635.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1635.2", "colnum": "1635", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I am withdrawing nothing and I skipped over nothing—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] If the right hon. Gentleman could not understand what I was saying yesterday, that was his fault. Details have been published and the right hon. Gentleman, who all the time is trying to find some point of difference—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1635.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1635.4", "colnum": "1635", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "My statement yesterday referred to remittances—all remittances. My statement today—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1635.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1672.0", "colnum": "1672", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNair-Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNair-Wilson", "preceding_text": "nister—the right hon. Gentleman has managed to mask the real issue by introducing this matter into a borrowing powers Bill, but I would remind the Committee that the words in the Labour Party's manifesto at the last election on this point were that the nationalised industries will be encouraged, with the removal of the present restrictions placed upon them, to diversify and move into new fields:\"—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1672.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1672.0", "colnum": "1672", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNair-Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNair-Wilson", "preceding_text": "orrowing powers Bill, but I would remind the Committee that the words in the Labour Party's manifesto at the last election on this point were that the nationalised industries will be encouraged, with the removal of the present restrictions placed upon them, to diversify and move into new fields:\"— [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] That is a sweeping statement clearly welcomed by hon. Members opposite.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1672.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1672.0", "colnum": "1672", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNair-Wilson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNair-Wilson", "preceding_text": "l be encouraged, with the removal of the present restrictions placed upon them, to diversify and move into new fields:\"— [HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] That is a sweeping statement clearly welcomed by hon. Members opposite. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"] for example, the railways' workshops will be free to seek export markets, and the National Coal Board to manufacture machinery and equipment it needs.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1672.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1674.0", "colnum": "1674", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "preceding_text": "resent before us. I noticed that they are almost word for word the same, and I am therefore not inclined to agree with the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. McNair-Wilson) that this Clause has the sinister interpretation which he seeks to place upon it. Nor can it be said that the Government are doing anything underhand when they are following the example set for them by their Tory predecessors.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1674.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1675.1", "colnum": "1675", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Lubbock", "preceding_text": "are identical in the previous Act. Unfortunately, I did not have time to look at the report of the proceedings in Committee on the 1962 Act to find out whether hon. and right hon. Members of the present Opposition disputed the right of their Government to put them in at that time. Perhaps they thought that, it being a Tory Government, these powers could safely be conferred upon their own Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1675.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1689.0", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": ", although he has told us that that is the case this afternoon. If that is what he means, why not say it in the Bill and be clear and concise about it? We have already seen the impact of the entry of nationalised industries into the takeover market. We saw it in 1963 when Richard Thomas & Baldwins was authorised to outbid Stewarts & Lloyds for Whitehead Iron and Steel. The principles are the same.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1689.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1689.0", "colnum": "1689", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "Hon. Members: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "n the impact of the entry of nationalised industries into the takeover market. We saw it in 1963 when Richard Thomas & Baldwins was authorised to outbid Stewarts & Lloyds for Whitehead Iron and Steel. The principles are the same. [ Laughter. ] This causes great amusement among right hon. and hon. Members on the Government Front Bench. We know that a Conservative Government gave authority for this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1689.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1690.1", "colnum": "1690", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Box", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why did they not do it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "ld have caused a great deal of damage to Richard Thomas & Baldwins if the take-over had not been permitted, it was allowed by a Conservative Government. We must remember that it was the long-term policy of the then Conservative Government, and now of the Conservative Party in opposition, eventually to denationalise both Richard Thomas & Baldwins and Whiteheads Iron and Steel, which was taken over.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1690.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1694.5", "colnum": "1694", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Temporary Chairman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Temporary Chairman", "preceding_text": "Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1694.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1723.1", "colnum": "1723", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. McNair-Wilson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Surtax payers.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. McNair-Wilson", "preceding_text": "we are in favour of Liberty Hall. We do not regard the industry as a social service. It has its part to play, like many other industries, and while some hon. Members opposite may make passionate' pleas, which are no doubt very important in the areas which they represent, we on this side of the Committee also have the responsibility for reminding ourselves that we are responsible to the taxpayers —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1723.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1728.2", "colnum": "1728", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dan Jones", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dan Jones", "preceding_text": "If I am in order, I should like briefly to make two points. First, I think that there are those of us who are disappointed with the Parliamentary Secretary's reply. I join with the hon. Member for Dunbartonshire, East (Mr. Bence) in saying that £30 million is rather on the mean side.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1728.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1741.1", "colnum": "1741", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Good\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Peyton", "preceding_text": "I beg to move Amendment No. 13, in page 4, line 4, at the end to insert: Provided that the Minister shall not consent to any such sums being applied for the purpose of financing any revenue deficit which may from time to time have been incurred by the Board. The Amendment can be dealt with very briefly, but this is not to say—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1741.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1758.3", "colnum": "1758", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": "e is a modern steelworks but no scars on the countryside. I have not been down to the area of Swansea for many years, but to go through Morriston and the surrounding area on the train makes one feel sick at what was done in the nineteenth century. Here is one thing that the present generation should do in those areas of Wales, Scotland and the North-East, where our countryside has been desecrated.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1758.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1768.0", "colnum": "1768", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Cowardice.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bence", "preceding_text": "as my hon. Friend's purpose. If it was his purpose to have a discussion on these scars on our countryside, we should be grateful to him. If it were suggested that I should cast my vote in favour of burdening the Board with the responsibility of putting right scars caused by the ruthless and unscrupulous industrialists of the nineteenth century, I am afraid I should have to go into the other Lobby.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1768.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1789.7", "colnum": "1789", "heading": "COAL INDUSTRY BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Probert", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Probert", "preceding_text": "imate during the past ten years has been proved absolutely wrong. Looking to the 1970s, it is extremely likely that the position as regards oil will harden considerably, and the price will certainly rise. It is estimated that oil supplies, at the present rate of consumption, will last for only about the next 35 years, and, what is more, consumption is increasing each year by about 8 or 9 per cent.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1789.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-02", "file": "debates1965-12-02a.xml", "sha256": "f7c9120d380649cc", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1805.3", "colnum": "1805", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT (WEST MIDLANDS ORDER)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Snow", "preceding_text": " the county will have to pay another 6d. on the rates. That will not be the end of it, because other increased expenditure will have to be met by the adjacent boroughs—and they love that idea! So there is a financial reason why the Order is weak and against the interests of the people. Are the new county boroughs really enthusiastic about this Order? Let us consider the attitude of Walsall.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-02a.1805.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.53.0", "colnum": "53", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "onsider the state of the Exchequer. I was interested to see in the Sunday newspapers some vigorous attacks on us for the impositions which we were making on the ratepayers. One Front Bench Opposition spokesman on financial affairs said of me: I wonder that he has the cheek to come to the Commons next week to present his Rating Bill that will further increase the rates for nine out of 10 taxpayers.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.52.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.55.3", "colnum": "55", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "Can the right hon. Gentleman give any such assurance? He pointedly does not do so. That blows away his bluff in saying. \"Why not vote against the Bill?\" If the right hon. Gentleman wants a vote, let him have it on the 25 per cent. provision, although I am not sure that many of his hon. Friends behind him would necessarily be in his company in the Lobby were he to do so. He knows it perfectly well.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.55.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.66.1", "colnum": "66", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: 'When?'", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "65, when we last debated the general subject of rates, he said: The second point is that we are pledged to introduce an income guarantee, and we shall do so. The income guarantee is special assistance for old people and for widows. My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and others are working out plans. We shall be presenting to Parliament a plan for this special assistance—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.66.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.140.1", "colnum": "140", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric Ogden", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Ogden", "preceding_text": "if the General Election of October, 1964, had been held in June, 1964, when we would have had 10 months to introduce legislation and to make it effective in the following April. My policy is to make the best of what we have before us. I should like to put one or two questions to my right hon. Friend the Minister. Perhaps he will take a note of them so that he can, perhaps, give us written replies.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.140.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.143.1", "colnum": "143", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Sir Anthony Meyer", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Anthony Meyer", "preceding_text": " get muddled between the Citizens' Advice Bureau, the National Assistance Board, the town hall, and local charities, and do not know where to turn for the help which is the one thing that they do know they need. If instead of this very unsatisfactory hotchpotch the Government had used the services of the National Assistance Board, they would not only have saved vast sums in the way of expenditure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.143.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.152.0", "colnum": "152", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Thatcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Thatcher", "preceding_text": ", that the rate rebate will continue after the six-month period. If, therefore, a person applies for a rebate and also applies for the residual rate to be paid by instalments, we must calculate the instalments by reference to a rebated period of rates followed by a full period of rates. We shall therefore find that someone is paying more in instalments in the first six months than he needs to pay.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.152.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.152.0", "colnum": "152", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Thatcher", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Thatcher", "preceding_text": "tch from rates to a local tax. We have got to face that as something which cannot be done.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 5th May, 1965; Vol. 711, c. 1492.] On 2nd December the right hon. Gentleman was reported as saying that the Government want to get rid of the rates system altogether and replace it with a system of local taxation. I should have thought that to some extent those were mutually contradictory.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.152.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.152.0", "colnum": "152", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mrs. Thatcher", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"From the Central Office?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mrs. Thatcher", "preceding_text": "e that as something which cannot be done.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 5th May, 1965; Vol. 711, c. 1492.] On 2nd December the right hon. Gentleman was reported as saying that the Government want to get rid of the rates system altogether and replace it with a system of local taxation. I should have thought that to some extent those were mutually contradictory. [HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"] But there is a better one.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.152.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.155.3", "colnum": "155", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Under-Secretary of State for Scotland (Dr. J. Dickson Mabon)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Under-Secretary of State for Scotland (Dr. J. Dickson Mabon)", "preceding_text": " good suggestion in his reference to publicity. This is something which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland as well as the Minister of Housing and Local Government accepts. It raises one comment on the Rating (Interim Relief) Act, 1964, which the last Government passed in a great hurry. They got it through, incidentally, with a speed which makes this Bill look like a tortoise.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.155.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.164.3", "colnum": "164", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING BILL", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Mabon", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Mabon", "preceding_text": "I am obliged to you, Mr. Speaker.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.164.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.167.2", "colnum": "167", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RATING [MONEY]", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "ng in my construction of the terms of the Money Resolution. I know that what is or is not in order in Committee is a matter for yourself, Sir Samuel, or for the Chairman of the Standing Committee. On the other hand, even the present Government must be presumed to know what they are doing—this is, at least, a charitable assump- tion—and I should like to know from a representative of the Government—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.167.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-06", "file": "debates1965-12-06a.xml", "sha256": "58aaf7553bbed116", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.191.0", "colnum": "191", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RURAL WATER SUPPLIES AND SEWERAGE BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "cue_text": "Interruption", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Scott-Hopkins", "preceding_text": "her reasons. The first of the two points I wish to make is that under existing Regulations at the moment about the pollution of rivers there are many small towns in the countryside, particularly in rural counties like Cornwall, which are being put in extreme difficulty by the operation of the local river authorities, the new river authorities under the recent Act, and therefore, if they are going—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-06a.191.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.226.8", "colnum": "226", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF TECHNOLOGY", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cousins", "preceding_text": "Would the hon. Gentleman like to quote me any place where I have said that we could be completely independent of foreign technology?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.226.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.232.8", "colnum": "232", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "Is the Financial Secretary aware that the price of a cricket ball now is £3 2s. 9d.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.232.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.232.8", "colnum": "232", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"The hon. Gentleman's team would be out before that.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Dance", "preceding_text": "Is the Financial Secretary aware that the price of a cricket ball now is £3 2s. 9d.—[ Laughter. ]—and that, as an ordinary cricket club uses two a day in a match—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.232.8"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.316.1", "colnum": "316", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jeremy Thorpe", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Fifty-one per cent.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jeremy Thorpe", "preceding_text": " coincidental name for a ship which has such a political significance. What has hap- pened? This British ship, which at the moment is on the high seas, is carrying 12,000 tons of crude oil. It is being shipped not by some sheikh, not by some unknown oil company which is selling off its surplus, but by the British Petroleum Company in which Her Majesty's Government have a 49 per cent. shareholding.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.316.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.334.1", "colnum": "334", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward M. Taylor", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward M. Taylor", "preceding_text": "mbers for Devon, North (Mr. Thorpe) and for Ebbw Vale (Mr. Michael Foot) have said that they are extremely grateful to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Walton (Mr. Heffer) for raising this subject tonight. I do not honestly think that the hon. Gentleman has done a service to the House in having this matter discussed when the great majority of hon. Members are not here to take part in the discussion—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.334.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.339.1", "colnum": "339", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Taylor", "preceding_text": "It is quite delightful to hear allegations of hypocrisy and the rest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.339.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.348.1", "colnum": "348", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eldon Griffiths", "preceding_text": "ebate, and put the House in possession of facts upon which it could make a judgment. This debate has moved into a general debate upon the Prime Minister's handling of the situation and I should like to add my thanks to those who have made the debate possible. In the handling of this delicate and dangerous situation the Prime Minister has got himself, and this country, into very grave difficulties.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.348.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.350.1", "colnum": "350", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer the question.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "The Commonwealth has a long history, and it is extraordinary to me that any hon. Member should believe that it is responsible for a member Government to threaten this country with ultimatums on the ground of something which it may have heard in the House of Commons and not liked.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.350.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.351.1", "colnum": "351", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What does the hon. Member support?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": " that the ways in which the Government have tackled the situation have so far proved themselves to be ineffective. If I believed that economic action against Mr. Smith would bring the result which we all hope to achieve, I should support it to the hilt. If I believed that force would achieve the purpose which I have defined, I would support it to the hilt. My doubt is whether it will be effective.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.351.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.354.3", "colnum": "354", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "e Minister has been putting forward, it is incumbent upon me to suggest an alternative approach. One would like to see the British Government offering the carrot of a conciliated settlement with extensive educational and economic advances, above all for the Africans in place of the stick of unconditional surrender which is virtually all that they can see in the Prime Minister's hand at the moment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.354.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.354.3", "colnum": "354", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": "with Mr. Smith and in the offers of both the Conservative Government and the Labour Government there were extensive proposals for economic and educational advance. I think that that was what the hon. Gentleman sought to say, and I accept that. I know that the Prime Minister has reiterated it. I want to hear him reiterating it again and again, loudly and convincingly. I say that he has not done so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.354.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.354.3", "colnum": "354", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Is Smith law abiding?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Griffiths", "preceding_text": " the electoral register in Rhodesia. It is reasonable to say that those Africans who wish to come on to the electoral register and participate in the future of their country should live up to at least four requirements. First of all, they should be literate. Secondly, it is right to ask that they should be of fixed abode and not nomads. Thirdly, I think it is right that they should be law abiding.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.354.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.370.1", "colnum": "370", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "preceding_text": "No, I cannot give way. Does this ship—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.370.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.381.1", "colnum": "381", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations (Mr. Arthur Bottomley)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations (Mr. Arthur Bottomley)", "preceding_text": "ich is proving successful, is an aircraft picking up copper from Zambia, taking it to Tanzania and bringing oil back. This is a beginning, but it will be a long time before we can say that it is successful. On the subject of oil, those hon. Gentlemen who have raised the matter should tell me what they really want. Do they really want to make a gesture, an isolated gesture, in respect of this ship—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.381.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.383.1", "colnum": "383", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: About the ship.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "preceding_text": "mic measures have been applied but stringent financial measures too. All these things have been done. Unfortunately, others have not followed that lead, except for the O.A.U. conference last Monday, which decided that it would apply economic sanctions. I am glad that that is so, because if economic sanctions are applied in this way, we shall get the required result. I will now go on to talk about—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.383.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.384.1", "colnum": "384", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "preceding_text": "No. I will talk about it. Leave it to me—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.384.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-07", "file": "debates1965-12-07a.xml", "sha256": "06ed5a6ab6651894", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.386.1", "colnum": "386", "heading": "Orders of the Day — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bottomley", "preceding_text": "ch could slip oil into Rhodesia very quickly. The other economic pressures are much more effective. One reason why the Smith régime is stronger than it ought to be is that hon. Members opposite, instead of backing the economic measures which the Government said were essential, have stated that the measures must not be punitive or effective. This has encouraged the Smith rebel régime—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-07a.386.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.415.3", "colnum": "415", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF AVIATION", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "On the first point there is no question, either in my view or the view of the Government, that the TSR2 decision has been shown to be a mistake.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.415.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.426.2", "colnum": "426", "heading": "PIRATE RADIO STATIONS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Molloy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Molloy", "preceding_text": "Will my right hon. Friend give the House an absolutely categorical assurance that he will in no way allow the vulgar, illegal commercialisms of these stations to endanger the lives—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.426.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.434.1", "colnum": "434", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "Unfortunately for the hon. Gentleman there were another 18 months before we took over, during which things got worse, not better, and that is the answer to that.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.434.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.434.1", "colnum": "434", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What the Labour Party did.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": " Gentleman with his Departmental knowledge will know why—when we get a backlog it takes about 12 months to pull up. This is one of the evils of this sort of thing. In 1962 orders increased 3 per cent. over the previous year. Then there came the usual pre-election boom—that is, when you advertise the jobs you are going to do if you get back with the object of countermanding them if you do get back.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.434.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.439.1", "colnum": "439", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "That just is not true. The hon. Gentleman had better hear the whole case. When he reads the speech in HANSARD he will probably be able to make a better speech next week. There are certain facts of life about this industry.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.439.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.446.1", "colnum": "446", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Chichester-Clark", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Chichester-Clark", "preceding_text": "On a point of order, in view of the fact that the Bill does not apply to Northern Ireland, do we have to have this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.446.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.446.7", "colnum": "446", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Deputy Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. We must discuss the principle of the Bill and not personalities.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.446.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.447.6", "colnum": "447", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "pous for people to have this sort of attitude—that we cannot reflect on the constituencies which they represent yet they can interfere when they are not affected by the Bill themselves. After all, this House and many people here have often called attention to the incongruity of hon. Members putting forward spurious interests. That is the line I am taking. The Government of Northern Ireland census—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.447.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.447.6", "colnum": "447", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "is 0·99. No wonder The Economist, in an article on 7th November, 1964, characterised Londonderry as: … the poorest as well as the most isolated of British settlements. It is against that background that I question this sort of attitude. This is the condition which we should be in if there were no Regulations. If we had the same sort of climate, we should get the same sort of housing—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.447.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.448.3", "colnum": "448", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "No. Nobody can complain that I have been unwilling to give way up to now. As a matter of fact, I like to give way to those people whom I know have an interest in the subject, but the hon. Member for Bristol, West whom I like personally and to whom I give way pretty often, tends to get more and more frivolous as the debate goes on—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.448.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.449.3", "colnum": "449", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "I am not. I am merely reflecting, in my usual calm way, on the incongruity of the hon. Member for Londonderry coming to the Box to move an Amendment to the Bill. To me, it raises a point of principle on representation. I like the hon. Member for Londonderry personally, and I know that he will not take my remarks as directed at him personally, but I am rather keen on these sort of points of order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.449.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.449.6", "colnum": "449", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Who?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "st, but I am observing the courtesy of the House and submitting to interuptions. The Amendment goes on to say that licensing will make no contribution towards restoring the confidence of the construction industry. The confidence of the industry had indeed reached its nadir under the previous Government, after 13 years of misrule, with \"stop-go\" policies, for which \"Selwyn Lloyd\" became a by-word——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.449.5"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.450.3", "colnum": "450", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "As a matter of fact——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.450.2"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.450.7", "colnum": "450", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "Mr. Pannell rose ——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.450.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.450.11", "colnum": "450", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Get on with it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": " Her Majesty's Government. The Times this morning made three criticisms. I mention this because in the days when I was hard up for a brief for a speech I usually read the leaders in The Times, and I approve heartily of The Times when I agree with it. In case hon. Gentlemen had gone through that sort of laudable operation, I thought that I had better deal with The Times. They made three criticisms—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.450.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.450.11", "colnum": "450", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Pannell", "preceding_text": "hich has for so long beset this vital industry. Without legislation this industry is defenceless, as has been proved many times in the past. This industry had a chip on its shoulder about bad treatment long before I took over. We hope with this instrument to usher in a new age of confidence and prosperity based on the confident hope and the sure knowledge that demand and supply will march in step.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.450.11"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.474.1", "colnum": "474", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"I enjoyed it.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "preceding_text": "November, 1964; Vol. 701, c. 150.] How true that prophecy has been, almost from that very day. I do not think that the Minister really knows how much this Measure has sapped the confidence of the industry. But it has a great deal of sympathy with him because it realises that he does not have his heart in this Measure. When the industry comes to read his speech that feeling will be fully justified.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.474.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.477.1", "colnum": "477", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Costain", "preceding_text": "f paying more than the rate to carpenters, taken over the total cost of a ship, is relatively small. To get the ship launched, a large number of carpenters was needed. As the hon. Member for Walton knows, it is always a bone of contention in the building industry that the ship carpenters are trained by the building industry. There is no power in the Bill to restrict the use of carpenters on ships.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.477.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.497.1", "colnum": "497", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Harold Lever", "preceding_text": "y are, is the Bill, broadly speaking, within that discretion? The hon. Member for Londonderry (Mr. Chichester-Clark) suggested that the Bill was brought in by a Minister maniacal for power, lusting to control the entire construction industry, and, at the same time,is intended to appease the over- eager hon. Members of the Left, with which latter description I find difficulty in identifying myself—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.497.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.547.3", "colnum": "547", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Channon", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Channon", "preceding_text": "ill has been more full of legal complexities than this one I have yet to see it. On the 2nd November we were fortunate enough to have from the Ministry the orders for new construction in August. On 5th October we were given the orders for new construction in July. Why today, when we have a debate on the construction industry, are the figures for September not to be released until tomorrow morning?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.547.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.550.3", "colnum": "550", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General (Sir Dingle Foot)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General (Sir Dingle Foot)", "preceding_text": "ed or postponed. He gave the rather terrifying figure of £546 million. That was a figure supplied by the R.I.B.A. My right hon. Friend the Minister has had the opportunity of analysing the answers to the R.I.B.A. questionnaire. It has been possible to agree with the R.I.B.A. the breakdown of that figure. Out of the total figure, only £66 million worth of work was abandoned after it had been begun.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.550.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.550.3", "colnum": "550", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General (Sir Dingle Foot)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General (Sir Dingle Foot)", "preceding_text": "lion. That was a figure supplied by the R.I.B.A. My right hon. Friend the Minister has had the opportunity of analysing the answers to the R.I.B.A. questionnaire. It has been possible to agree with the R.I.B.A. the breakdown of that figure. Out of the total figure, only £66 million worth of work was abandoned after it had been begun. [ Laughter. ] Yes, £66 million. Some £480 million was postponed.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.550.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.550.3", "colnum": "550", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General (Sir Dingle Foot)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General (Sir Dingle Foot)", "preceding_text": "a modest category of building. We have all the exemptions: first, the exemption up to £100,000, a very considerable exemption indeed, and the specific exemptions which are set out in Clauses 3, 4 and 5. They cover by far the greater part of the construction work. In passing, in answer to my hon. Friend the Member for Rutherglen (Mr. Gregor Mackenzie), we attach the greatest importance to Clause 4.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.550.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.553.0", "colnum": "553", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"That was in wartime.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Solicitor-General", "preceding_text": "r what he does. My right hon. Friend the Member for Bassetlaw and the hon. Member for Inverness referred to penalties. This is not our first experience in this field. The provision is based on Defence Regulation 56A, which came into force in 1940 and remained in force for the next 14 years. The penalties here proposed are considerably less than those which were included in the Defence Regulations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.553.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.557.1", "colnum": "557", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Doughty", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Doughty", "preceding_text": "wed right down. Ministers knew that this Bill was coming forward. They knew that these controls were to be introduced, yet with that knowledge they deliberately stopped what they call social building, and what we call necessary building, the construction of hospitals, schools, and so on. I tell them, in the few minutes left to me, that as a result of this Bill the position will get steadily worse—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.557.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.557.1", "colnum": "557", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Charles Doughty", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Charles Doughty", "preceding_text": "wn in the course of the next year or two, unless the method is changed—and the way to change it is to change the Government. Together with many of my hon. Friends I know of many cases where new schools are required. We are told that the Government are slowing the programme down. Hospitals are required. The Bill will not provide them. This is merely doctrinaire Socialism—control for control's sake.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.557.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.558.0", "colnum": "558", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. Pannell", "preceding_text": "The hon. and learned Member has hardly been here during the course of the debate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.558.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-08", "file": "debates1965-12-08a.xml", "sha256": "f50cb4d51064e9c9", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.558.0", "colnum": "558", "heading": "Orders of the Day — BUILDING CONTROL BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. C. Pannell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. C. Pannell", "preceding_text": "The hon. and learned Member has hardly been here during the course of the debate—[ Interruption. ] He was here for——", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-08a.558.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.597.6", "colnum": "597", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — HOME DEPARTMENT", "cue_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Miss Bacon", "preceding_text": "e will appreciate the very great difficulty of my right hon. and learned Friend in having to keep in safe custody prisoners undergoing such long prison sentences and with such a large amount of money outside. Some of the reports which come from Durham Prison about the conditions in which the prisoners are kept have been grossly exaggerated. They work for about 30 hours of the day in a common room—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.597.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.599.0", "colnum": "599", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Speech.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Higgins", "preceding_text": "y unsatisfactory Answer? The reply which she sent me was lengthy, but it could have been summarised. Would not the Prime Minister further agree that it is difficult for those covered by that Question, namely, old age non-pensioners, to avoid the impression that the Government are deliberately trying to ignore their problems? Would the Prime Minister do something in regard to my hon. Friend's Bill—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.598.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.605.6", "colnum": "605", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA (OIL SHIPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "On a point of order. Since the question has now been put by the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.605.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.606.4", "colnum": "606", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA (OIL SHIPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The only point I was trying to make—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.606.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.606.6", "colnum": "606", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA (OIL SHIPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order, Mr. Speaker. Since the right hon. Gentleman is anxious to have this question answered, and the Press is full of stories today about how the Opposition intend to press us mercilessly on this—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.606.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.607.0", "colnum": "607", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA (OIL SHIPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "I had an uneasy feeling that the Prime Minister was threatening to give notice that he would raise the matter on the Adjournment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.607.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.610.2", "colnum": "610", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is the usual.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that some hon. Members may be pleased that we are to have an extra long holiday at Christmas.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.610.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.610.2", "colnum": "610", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "ight hon. Gentleman whether he will very carefully watch the situation of the House in regard to Rhodesia, because these will be extremely important weeks for the future of this country and Rhodesia? Will he, therefore, make sure that he calls back the House at the slightest provocation for any statement on Rhodesia—as to how things are going and so on? This Recess has come at a most awkward time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.610.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.611.0", "colnum": "611", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fell", "preceding_text": "No. On a point of order, I deliberately said that the time of this matter", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.611.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.611.1", "colnum": "611", "heading": "BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Speaker", "preceding_text": "Order. The hon. Gentleman was not on a point of order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.611.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.681.1", "colnum": "681", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LONDON TRANSPORT (SELECT COMMITTEES' REPORTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": " country in which it is more desirable in the public interest that good progress should be made in the development of automation. The Victoria Line will have automatic ticket collection and automatic train control. The possibility of developing this for the rest of the system exists, and I hope that it will be applied before the year 2000. I hope that it will be applied in the course of the 1970s—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.681.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.681.1", "colnum": "681", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LONDON TRANSPORT (SELECT COMMITTEES' REPORTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is it?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Fraser", "preceding_text": "predictable services, fewer passengers, back to more motor cars and so on. I felt that I had to do something about it. At that time, having taken my decision —which I not only felt I had a right to do but honestly thought that I had a duty to do—I called not only the Board but the Greater London Council to a discussion of the problem. I commissioned a study and I have here the result of the study—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.681.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-09", "file": "debates1965-12-09a.xml", "sha256": "db9388a402dab3a8", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.724.1", "colnum": "724", "heading": "Orders of the Day — LONDON TRANSPORT (SELECT COMMITTEES' REPORTS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Molloy", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Now.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Molloy", "preceding_text": "We will examine that later on.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-09a.724.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-10", "file": "debates1965-12-10a.xml", "sha256": "ff3b05cee942b4f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.775.0", "colnum": "775", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "tement on 23rd November. What I would say to the Prime Minister is that the whole House can unite behind the statement which he made on 23rd November that those who come forward from whatever source to make a negotiation on the constitutional future of Rhodesia will be negotiated with. On that we can all unite, but not on the sort of statement he has made this morning, in those particular aspects—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.775.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-10", "file": "debates1965-12-10a.xml", "sha256": "ff3b05cee942b4f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.777.1", "colnum": "777", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "It never bedevilled them at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.777.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-10", "file": "debates1965-12-10a.xml", "sha256": "ff3b05cee942b4f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.783.1", "colnum": "783", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why direct?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "That is perfectly fair. The right hon. Gentleman understands the difficulties of saying how long the period of direct colonial rule would be while all this was being established.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.783.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-10", "file": "debates1965-12-10a.xml", "sha256": "ff3b05cee942b4f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.863.2", "colnum": "863", "heading": "NATIONAL SAVINGS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Object.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir F. Bennett", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order. May I interrupt now to ask leave of the House?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.863.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-10", "file": "debates1965-12-10a.xml", "sha256": "ff3b05cee942b4f2", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.866.1", "colnum": "866", "heading": "NATIONAL SAVINGS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Robert Edwards", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Shame.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Robert Edwards", "preceding_text": "Mr. Robert Edwards rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-10a.866.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-13", "file": "debates1965-12-13a.xml", "sha256": "add7794af4aad23a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.892.0", "colnum": "892", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — PRINCESS MARGARET (VISIT TO UNITED STATES)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thomson", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thomson", "preceding_text": "I am glad to be able to give my hon. Friend information on both of these points in view of the considerable public misrepresentation which there has been.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.892.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-13", "file": "debates1965-12-13a.xml", "sha256": "add7794af4aad23a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.894.6", "colnum": "894", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Padley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Padley", "preceding_text": "My noble Friend the Minister of State with special responsibility for disarmament has done a very constructive job—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.894.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-13", "file": "debates1965-12-13a.xml", "sha256": "add7794af4aad23a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.894.6", "colnum": "894", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — DISARMAMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Padley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Padley", "preceding_text": "My noble Friend the Minister of State with special responsibility for disarmament has done a very constructive job—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\"]—yes—by expanding the disarmament section of the Foreign Office —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.894.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-13", "file": "debates1965-12-13a.xml", "sha256": "add7794af4aad23a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.898.1", "colnum": "898", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ALLIED TRAVEL OFFICE, BERLIN (EAST GERMANS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Newens", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"A long way.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Newens", "preceding_text": "While thanking my hon. Friend for that reply, which goes some way—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.898.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-13", "file": "debates1965-12-13a.xml", "sha256": "add7794af4aad23a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.969.0", "colnum": "969", "heading": "Orders of the Day — ARMED FORCES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Ronald Bell", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"An Irishman.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Ronald Bell", "preceding_text": "Am I right then in thinking that the effect of Clause 18 will be that an Irishman is not a member of the Commonwealth, he is not a British subject and he is not a foreigner? What is he?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.969.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-13", "file": "debates1965-12-13a.xml", "sha256": "add7794af4aad23a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.978.0", "colnum": "978", "heading": "Orders of the Day — F.111 AIRCRAFT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend the Member for Stratford-on-Avon (Mr. Maude) is unfortunately not here.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.978.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-13", "file": "debates1965-12-13a.xml", "sha256": "add7794af4aad23a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.978.0", "colnum": "978", "heading": "Orders of the Day — F.111 AIRCRAFT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Carr", "preceding_text": "saying that this should not be done until that Report had been considered not only by Ministers in private but by the House in public. One need only look at the alternatives to see the importance of the decision to our aircraft industry. Let us consider these alternatives. First, there is the possibility that the Government will decide to order no new advance strike reconnaissance aircraft at all.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.978.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-13", "file": "debates1965-12-13a.xml", "sha256": "add7794af4aad23a", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.1042.1", "colnum": "1042", "heading": "Orders of the Day — F.111 AIRCRAFT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Jenkins", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Member thinks that in the position in which, under the Government of the party opposite—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-13a.1042.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1061.3", "colnum": "1061", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — NATIONAL FINANCE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "The difference has been well explained—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1061.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1086.2", "colnum": "1086", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — ATLANTIC ALLIANCE (NUCLEAR CONSULTATION)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I thought that I satisfied even hon. Gentleman opposite, to say nothing of my hon. and learned Friend, in the debate last. December that the claim that we had an independent nuclear power was a completely bogus claim. The proposal which we have made for the Atlantic Nuclear Force, in which we have sought and offered to internationalise this deterrent, I should have thought—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1086.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1087.6", "colnum": "1087", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — LORD BEECHING (TRANSPORT CO-ORDINATION STUDY)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "No, Sir. To the best of my memory, I did not raise it with Lord Beeching at that time—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1087.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1088.3", "colnum": "1088", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — LORD BEECHING (TRANSPORT CO-ORDINATION STUDY)", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I am sorry to see the right hon. Gentleman casting so vainly about for these little attacks on the Government. If this is the best he can do after six months—borrowing ideas from his back benchers—I am really disappointed. If he cannot do better than that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1088.3"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1100.0", "colnum": "1100", "heading": "PERSONAL STATEMENT", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Withdraw.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Box", "preceding_text": "mes out of a total, which included non-Government free votes, of 276, with normal pairing arrangements, where appropriate, accounting for the balance. In the current Session of Parliament I have voted 11 times out of 11 votes. I can also provide evidence to prove that my attendance in the House is consistently frequent, very considerably in excess of that indicated by the hon. Gentleman's remarks.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1099.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1121.1", "colnum": "1121", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT (GENERAL GRANT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacColl", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacColl", "preceding_text": " our trouble. So much for the immediate short term, dealing with relief to the poor ratepaper, not the year after next, but in the next financial year. We are to discuss in the House tomorrow—again I must not anticipate—a Bill which will give far and away the biggest central Government help to housing ever given by any Government. That will come into operation as soon as the arrangements are made.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1121.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1136.2", "colnum": "1136", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT (GENERAL GRANT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. John Robertson", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. John Robertson", "preceding_text": " said that the figures of the increase were agreed in negotiation with local authority representatives. One should like to know, which local authority representatives? Who negotiated? This is a very important point. I must tell him that many local authorities in Scotland are not aware that their representatives discussed this point, nor that any agreement was reached on the amount of the increase—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1136.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1146.0", "colnum": "1146", "heading": "LOCAL GOVERNMENT (GENERAL GRANT)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Mabon", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Mabon", "preceding_text": "nary matter, we are doing what we can. We have drawn this to the attention of sporting clubs and local authorities in the different areas. As for the hon. Gentleman's other questions about the percentage grant, I would prefer to await the publication of the Local Government Bill. As for the hon. Gentleman's quotation from my right hon. Friend's speech—his very admirable speech; I have to say that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1146.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1170.1", "colnum": "1170", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Amery", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"With whom?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Amery", "preceding_text": "bjection to the Government arming themselves with powers and putting themselves in a strong bargaining position, although I question whether these Orders are really helpful for that purpose. But the time has come when the Government should follow the policy advocated by my right hon. Friend the Member for Kinross and West Perthshire (Sir Alec Douglas-Home) and seek to negotiate now with Salisbury.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1170.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1182.1", "colnum": "1182", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Shepherd", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Why?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Shepherd", "preceding_text": "d the hon. and learned Gentleman, in order that he can enlighten me—because I was not able to follow him too well—to show how the Orders, in their 11 days' existence, have affected the strength of sterling and the level of foreign deposits in the United Kingdom. This was not a foolish or unreasonable question. Of course, if Orders of this kind are to have any effect, the effect would be immediate—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1182.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1193.1", "colnum": "1193", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Sir C. Taylor", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Three twins.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir C. Taylor", "preceding_text": "Perhaps the hon. Gentleman would wait until the story develops and then perhaps he will see the relevance. One son is serving in Zambia, one in Rhodesia and the other is with the British Army in Aden.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1193.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1202.2", "colnum": "1202", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "rticular stock which, I gather, is of special interest to a number of right hon. and hon. Gentlemen and to deal with that in a moment. What I want to do for a moment is to get away from that, which is a quite separate issue, and first to deal with the effect of the Order rather than with any problems which may arise in giving instructions under the Order. I will certainly come back to that matter.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1202.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1203.3", "colnum": "1203", "heading": "RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Diamond", "preceding_text": "rs. That is the difference, but essentially a banker carries on the banking business of holding funds belonging to his customers and seeking instructions from the customers as to the disposal of those funds. If a customer does not give him instructions as to the disposal of the funds, the bank's duty is to hang on to them. That is the simple situation. I hope that I have made that perfectly clear.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1203.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1226.2", "colnum": "1226", "heading": "SCOTLAND (HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "cue_text": "Laughter .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. George Y. Mackie", "preceding_text": "at it is only one hammer blow. For 150 years the people of the Highlands have steadily lost hope of progress in their native land. They have steadily looked more and more to the South as the only place where they can prosper —to overseas, to Canada, Australia and all the places where they have gone. We had hoped that this Highland Development Board, which has been Liberal policy for over 40 years—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1226.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1229.3", "colnum": "1229", "heading": "SCOTLAND (HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Buchan", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Buchan", "preceding_text": "e Liberals would have introduced the Highland Board, but, unfortunately, they did not have power. We had the power and the desire, and we have created it. One of the tasks in front of it is to break the grip of the landowners on the Highlands. Something to which I would like to see the Minister pay attention is the sale of large estates up there, and I hope that the Liberals will support us on it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1229.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-14", "file": "debates1965-12-14a.xml", "sha256": "6d24200a11d214f6", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1231.5", "colnum": "1231", "heading": "SCOTLAND (HIGHLAND DEVELOPMENT)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Willis", "cue_text": "Interruption .", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Willis", "preceding_text": "Of all the quotations that have been made about the Hydro-Electric Board, I have not heard one from a speech by the hon. Member for Edinburgh East, so I have no words to eat. The hon. Gentleman can read my speeches at his leisure.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-14a.1231.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1241.6", "colnum": "1241", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — POST OFFICE", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Benn", "preceding_text": "I am sure the hon. Gentleman means his comment to be directed only at me—and I am quite happy to take it—but it will, of course, be read by all the people who work in the Post Office at this time of the year as an attack on them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1241.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1267.3", "colnum": "1267", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (CHRISTMAS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Wall", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Patrick Wall", "preceding_text": ". The first concerns oil sanctions. There has been a supposition in the Press supported on the wireless last night and this morning that the Prime Minister, when he goes to the United Nations, will agree to mandatory oil sanctions. There have also been reports of a possible blockade of the port of Beira in order to enforce these sanctions. This could be regarded by the Portuguese as an act of war.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1267.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1268.4", "colnum": "1268", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (CHRISTMAS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Leslie Hale", "preceding_text": "am trying to put it moderately. I am trying to put it uncontroversially. Two or three years ago the Tory Whips objected to this Measure. I should not like to express myself about this in the sort of terms I would normally use in conversation, because they would invite your reprehension, Mr. Speaker. I went on the wireless and expressed my views. Last year the Labour Whips objected to this Measure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1268.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1276.1", "colnum": "1276", "heading": "ADJOURNMENT (CHRISTMAS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Walter Monslow", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Walter Monslow", "preceding_text": "I hope that my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House will not be influenced by the sheer undiluted nonsense we are listening to now.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1276.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1296.1", "colnum": "1296", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter (Kingston-upon-Thames)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter (Kingston-upon-Thames)", "preceding_text": "ople who need them most. The House is indebted to the Joint Parliamentary Secretary first of all for a very clear and conscientious summary of the Bill, and secondly, which is always appreciated, for a very genuine and agreeable indication of the hon. Gentleman's own approach to the problems. As regards the Bill itself, the best commentary of all was given by the right hon. Gentleman the Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1296.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1296.1", "colnum": "1296", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter (Kingston-upon-Thames)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter (Kingston-upon-Thames)", "preceding_text": "ate what the right hon. Gentleman will say—a similar proposal, limited to action after 10 years. It is interesting, too, to recall what the then Opposition spokesman on Housing and Local Government said. The right hon. Gentleman is now Foreign Secretary, and I am sure that the House as a whole will want to send its best wishes to him in his recent distressing illness and wish him a rapid recovery.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1296.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1300.0", "colnum": "1300", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "the Economist a few days ago, it has a rather curious effect, because it offers greater inducements to local authorities to build at times when the Chancellor of the Exchequer has raised interest rates, presumably to curtail activity, and, conversely, offers less inducement to build at a time when the Chancellor of the Exchequer, with a desire to inflate the economy, has reduced rates of interest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1300.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1307.3", "colnum": "1307", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Boyd-Carpenter", "preceding_text": "xpenditure Survey Report for 1964, issued in 1965. This took a sample of local authority tenants and put them into different income groups. In the sample, 148 tenants proved to have incomes of less than £10 a week. I quote £10 a week, because this is the figure which the right hon. Gentleman has adopted for the purpose of defining poverty in the Housing Subsidies Bill. There are 193 in the sample—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1307.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1317.1", "colnum": "1317", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"£70.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Member wants to argue it like that, he can, but the two cases are entirely different. The council tenant receives a subsidy from the Government—sometimes as much, as in this Bill, as £45 or £50 a house. But the man buying his own house is not getting Income Tax relief to anything like that extent—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1317.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1318.2", "colnum": "1318", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: \"Rating relief.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "s typical of the cloth cap, soup kitchen mentality of the Labour Party. Every man his own council tenant. It is a mistake to deny the ordinary man in the street the right to buy his own house. I know that the Minister will assert that we are not denying him that right, but every step the Minister is taking makes it more difficult for the man to buy his own house. There are the high interest rates.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1318.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1318.2", "colnum": "1318", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "an to buy his own house. There are the high interest rates. [AN HON. MEMBER: \"Rating relief.\"] Let us not come on to that hoary chestnut. We could have a wonderful time with that. The building industry is now at a certain level, so more council houses are to be built. The result will be that fewer houses will be built for owner occupation. My right hon. Friend read an extract from a recent survey.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1318.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1318.2", "colnum": "1318", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "s at this moment a big falling off in the number of houses being built for owner occupation. I suggest that the Minister gets out of his Ministry and goes around talking to some of the builders. He will then find out the facts of life. If it is right to subsidise council tenants under the Bill, why is it not right to subsidise the would-be house purchaser? Or have we ditched \"Mr. Three Per Cent.\"?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1318.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1320.1", "colnum": "1320", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Cooper", "preceding_text": "I have not done so badly over the years. This afternoon we have heard mention of Milner Holland. What the Minister and the Joint Parliamentary Secretary should understand is that Milner Holland was a grave indictment of Labour policy over 25 years.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1320.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1321.2", "colnum": "1321", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Frank Allaun", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Frank Allaun", "preceding_text": "p—the rats, the bugs, the lice and the filth—it is terrible. And look at that place\"—pointing to the rickety outside lavatory—\"it's a disgrace\". He grew so angry that he pulled a Mills bomb out of his pouch and tossed it on the outhouse, which went up in smoke. They sat there for another five minutes, and then the father turned to his son and said, \"Son, tha shudna dun that; thi Ma were in there\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1321.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1340.0", "colnum": "1340", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hattersley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hattersley", "preceding_text": "complicated without over-complicating them. I have never understood the argument which says that housing subsidies have to be simple. The people who enjoy them do not understand what a subsidy is, and, if they get it at all, they think that it is too little. The only people required to understand it are members of local authorities, who rarely do, and city and borough treasurers, who sometimes do.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1340.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1363.2", "colnum": "1363", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Allason", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Allason", "preceding_text": "This will take effect in 1968–69—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1363.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1374.1", "colnum": "1374", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Blenkinsop", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are Members on your own side?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Arthur Blenkinsop", "preceding_text": "essell) which seemed to me to be relevant to the Bill. I must say that I do not think that I have ever seen an Amendment for the rejection of a Bill so little supported by speeches in debate. The sincerity with which the Opposition have moved their Amendment is exhibited in the amount of support they have got from Members on their own side and in this Chamber—even at this particular moment of time", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1374.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1379.1", "colnum": "1379", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Page", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Page", "preceding_text": "per discrimination in the granting of the basic subsidy. I refer again to what the hon. Member for Walton said, because I know the district of which he was speaking. He made an extremely good case for selective subsidies in favour of areas such as Liverpool. The hon. Member for Salford, East (Mr. Frank Allaun) said that we aught to ensure that we centred our efforts on the areas most needing help.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1379.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1382.0", "colnum": "1382", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Page", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What is a proper rent?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Page", "preceding_text": "Bill in favour of the hardest-hit areas. It would also have been weighted in favour of local authorities who had adopted rent schemes. There has been some question today as to what is meant by a rent scheme or a differential scheme. My interpretation of it is that one should give the subsidy only to an authority which charged proper rents and made proper rebates, where necessary, from those rents—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1382.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1394.1", "colnum": "1394", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "ire to suppress. I turn now to the question of rents. I was solemnly told that I should have a mandatory authority to say that no local authority should receive a subsidy if its rent rebate scheme was not to my approval. The confidence which right hon. and hon. Members opposite have in my power of direction! I think that I would modestly deny myself this power! I simply say that this is something—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1394.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1397.1", "colnum": "1397", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "ustly treated by the tax law. On the other hand, it is also true that we still pay more per owner-occupier from the Treasury than we do per council house dweller. They are both things that we must deal with. I conclude by saying this to the Opposition. If they think that we should divide this money between council houses and owner-occupiers, let them wait for our next proposal for owner-occupiers—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1397.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1397.1", "colnum": "1397", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING SUBSIDIES BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crossman", "preceding_text": "e per owner-occupier from the Treasury than we do per council house dweller. They are both things that we must deal with. I conclude by saying this to the Opposition. If they think that we should divide this money between council houses and owner-occupiers, let them wait for our next proposal for owner-occupiers—[HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"]—and they will find that we will be announcing it this—Session—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1397.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-15", "file": "debates1965-12-15a.xml", "sha256": "662f4f4a112b4a71", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1416.2", "colnum": "1416", "heading": "Orders of the Day — HOUSING (SLUM CLEARANCE COMPENSATION) BILL", "cue_speaker": "Mr. MacColl", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes, you are.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. MacColl", "preceding_text": "I am sorry, Mr. Deputy Speaker. By leave of the House, I would like to explain to the hon. Member for Crosby (Mr. Graham Page) that we are not depriving anybody of anything.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-15a.1416.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1464.3", "colnum": "1464", "heading": "RHODESIA (INSURANCE CLAIMS)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"It fitted him.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Callaghan", "preceding_text": "I can assure the right hon. Gentleman that I was not necessarily putting the cap on his head when I made my first comment.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1464.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1484.1", "colnum": "1484", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What did Lord Montgomery say?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ember, signed by six field marshals, dealing with this point. It says: Twice in this century the Territorial Army has been the framework for military expansion in dire emergency. Neither World War developed according to the original expectations of the political experts and their military advisers at those times. Nothing is more certain than that any future war will develop along unexpected lines.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1484.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1487.3", "colnum": "1487", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "itorial Army responded fully to the calls which the nation made upon it. Few of us can have been unaware of the special place which the T.A. occupies in our national life. The tradition of voluntary service is woven into our social fabric. I am glad to carry the Opposition with me thus far, because if the Conservative Government had had their way there would have been no Territorial Army. In 1907—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1487.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1488.3", "colnum": "1488", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "ry and imposing new and uncertain liabilities on the Volunteers, would not, in a period of national peril, provide an adequate force for home defence, or prompt support for the Regular Army in the Field. In fact, that is a rather better Amendment than the one which the right hon. Gentleman has just moved. In 1907, the Opposition said, as the right hon. Gentleman said today, that it would not work—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1488.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1491.1", "colnum": "1491", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "I do not have the facts about the size of the T.A. Reserve of officers at the moment—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1491.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1491.1", "colnum": "1491", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "I do not have the facts about the size of the T.A. Reserve of officers at the moment—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Why not?\"] The list in Annex A concerns all the major reserves, Regular and Territorial, and I thought that that would be all that the House would require—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1491.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1494.0", "colnum": "1494", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "An Hon. Member", "cue_text": "He is not a right hon. Gentleman.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Douglas Glover", "preceding_text": "I would ask the right hon. Gentleman whether we may take it that the Territorial Army Associations are to continue and to be consulted?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1493.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1499.1", "colnum": "1499", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "I am only trying to save the time of the House—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1499.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1499.5", "colnum": "1499", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "I am not sure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1499.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1499.5", "colnum": "1499", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "I am not sure—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"]—that this Parliamentary term was used, but I have heard hon. Members opposite, certainly privately and in deputations, use stronger words—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1499.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.0", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "I did not say that any hon. Member had—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.3", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It is not a point of order.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. William Yates", "preceding_text": "Further to that point of order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.5", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Withdraw.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "I can perhaps explain exactly why—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.7", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Rain.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "yed with great enthusiasm by the right hon. Gentleman, is surely contrary to the experience of every one of us. I know of no insurance company—although I bow to the superior commercial knowledge of some hon. Members opposite—which will issue a policy without a very precise specification of the risks to be insured against. One cannot take out an insurance policy against the unforeseen, the unknown—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.7", "colnum": "1500", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"When?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "ite another matter. In the appalling event of such an attack, the requirement for help of all kinds would be unlimited. Military units would have a part to play; and there are at any time a substantial number of regular units of all three Services in this country. However, all aspects of civil defence are under examination within the Government, and our conclusions will be announced in due course.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1500.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1505.1", "colnum": "1505", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "It would trespass on the time Of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1505.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1505.1", "colnum": "1505", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Yes.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mulley", "preceding_text": "It would trespass on the time Of the House. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I am quite willing to read them out and to comment on them, if that is the wish of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1505.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1531.7", "colnum": "1531", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Crawshaw", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Rubbish.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Crawshaw", "preceding_text": "wance has been made for wastage or unavailability of personnel. This proposal will have an adverse effect on recruiting for the Regular Army. I believe that this scheme will not work without the good will of the T.A. Associations. I believe that it is taking away something which has existed for many years and has formed an association between the public and the Regular Army which is almost unique.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1531.7"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1538.3", "colnum": "1538", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Sir Frank Pearson", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Chicken feed.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir Frank Pearson", "preceding_text": "where human rights may be at stake and where the presence of a disciplined force may be absolutely vital to maintain the structure of society, the presence of that force is not justifiable because what it could do is not commensurate with the probable cost. I have never heard a more appallingly unconvincing argument from someone who is supposed to be responsible. What, anyhow, is the saving to be?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1538.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1560.6", "colnum": "1560", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hamling", "preceding_text": "The White Paper was published only last week, so the hon. Gentleman cannot have made many speeches. I know that he is pretty good, but he has not made one speech.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1560.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1572.1", "colnum": "1572", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "preceding_text": "artments. Bearing this in mind, would he say what he means, in this context, by saying that 'ultimately' there will be a saving of £20 million per annum? In how many years can we look forward to this saving?\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 29th July, 1965; Vol. 717, c. 701.] This has been called in aid again and again. There is no change of attitude at all by my hon. and learned Friend or by the Liberal Party.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1572.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1572.1", "colnum": "1572", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS \"Chameleon.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "preceding_text": " £20 million per annum? In how many years can we look forward to this saving?\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 29th July, 1965; Vol. 717, c. 701.] This has been called in aid again and again. There is no change of attitude at all by my hon. and learned Friend or by the Liberal Party. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] If I may be allowed to complete my speech without further interruptions. I will try to show how that is so.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1572.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1572.1", "colnum": "1572", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "preceding_text": "I should be grateful if I could make my speech in my own time and in the way I choose. I come next to the point which I was trying to make when I was interrupted. We have heard about areas like Scotland, where units of the Territorial Army are almost 100 per cent. up to strength. This is a great tribute to that area of the country and to the sense of public service which our Scottish friends have—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1572.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1572.1", "colnum": "1572", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Where are your hon. Friends?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bessell", "preceding_text": " to that area of the country and to the sense of public service which our Scottish friends have—[HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"] I hear cheers of \"Hear, hear\" from hon. Members on the other side. Yet this new plan would deprive, for example, the Western Isles, the Orkneys and Caithness of their present Territorial force. The practical defence of the whole of the Highlands would be based at Inverness—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1572.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1579.0", "colnum": "1579", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Powell", "preceding_text": "use on this matter, because we have to condemn these proposals which, in the course of this debate, have hardly found, in any part of the House, more than one or two friends, and those very grudging friends. Yet this is a matter of transcendent importance. Though we must divide and fight about it in the Division Lobbies, I beg the right hon. Gentleman and the Government, in the name of the nation—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1579.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1585.1", "colnum": "1585", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr. Denis Healey)", "preceding_text": "tively to draw volunteers for this Reserve. To answer the point asked by the Leader of the Opposition about cost and savings, if we recruit to 80 per cent. of the establishment of the units—and this will mean doing very much better than the previous Government did in the existing Territorial Army, because they succeeded in recruiting only 105,000 men for an establishment of 190,000. If we do that—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1585.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-16", "file": "debates1965-12-16a.xml", "sha256": "ff7f96b830e7a041", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1588.1", "colnum": "1588", "heading": "Orders of the Day — TERRITORIAL ARMY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Healey", "preceding_text": "th units for that particular purpose. We decided against it, for two reasons. The first reason is that the likelihood of nuclear attack on the country is very small so long as our alliance remains united and so long as the deterrent power of the alliance's weapons is available to discourage such attack. I hope that hon. Members opposite will treat the problem with the seriousness that it deserves.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-16a.1588.1"}
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{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-20", "file": "debates1965-12-20a.xml", "sha256": "bba70b05281ed950", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1685.6", "colnum": "1685", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF LABOUR", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Thornton", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No:", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Thornton", "preceding_text": "It would appear that the hon. Gentleman seems to get some satisfaction out of what he calls the failure of the incomes and prices policy—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1685.6"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-20", "file": "debates1965-12-20a.xml", "sha256": "bba70b05281ed950", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1696.3", "colnum": "1696", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer the question.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I had the great help when I was in the United States of seeing the Motion on the Order Paper from the right hon. Gentleman and his colleagues, which I am glad to say was treated with just about the right degree of importance we would all attach to it.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1696.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-20", "file": "debates1965-12-20a.xml", "sha256": "bba70b05281ed950", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1714.1", "colnum": "1714", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"And the south.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "My hon. Friend knows very well that the reason why I particularly chose this episode is the enormous publicity that has been given here and elsewhere to the effects of American bombing in the north—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1714.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-20", "file": "debates1965-12-20a.xml", "sha256": "bba70b05281ed950", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1714.1", "colnum": "1714", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Stewart", "preceding_text": "reements. We have now to ask: are the two sides willing to negotiate on this basis? There, I have to tell the House again, as I have told it before, that if we are to take the statements of the parties themselves, we have a clear statement by the United States and South Vietnam of their willingness to negotiate, and the clear statement by the Government of Hanoi of its unwillingness to negotiate —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1714.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-20", "file": "debates1965-12-20a.xml", "sha256": "bba70b05281ed950", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1824.0", "colnum": "1824", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Hear, hear.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "ve conditions. He said that some of them were getting easier to solve—he spoke of agriculture, E.F.T.A. and about the Commonwealth—but these were all dealt with effectively in the negotiations which were conducted by my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition. The really difficult conditions among the five are those about independence of foreign policy and the right to plan our own economy.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1821.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-20", "file": "debates1965-12-20a.xml", "sha256": "bba70b05281ed950", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1824.1", "colnum": "1824", "heading": "Orders of the Day — FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Maudling", "preceding_text": "ern world in which we live, that we can only operate through international groups. If one is to operate through an international group, how can one at the same time maintain the integrity of one's foreign policy? We believe that this is inconsistent one with the other. The main objection is the condition about planning the economy. The Prime Minister has said what he thinks about the Common Market", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-20a.1824.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1854.5", "colnum": "1854", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — LOCAL GOVERNMENT", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Bell", "preceding_text": "In regard 10 the matter of delay, does the Minister realise that in this case the end excuses all? His decision will be welcomed by all who value the beauty of the Chiltern Hills. We shall be happy to welcome the Minister to the stewardship of the local hundreds.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1854.5"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1870.6", "colnum": "1870", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — RHODESIA", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The country is not being led in this direction. I am not certain that pressures for deploying troops in Rhodesia could be any stronger than the pressures we have already had in these last few weeks, but since we have no policy at all—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1870.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1882.2", "colnum": "1882", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"It still is.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Edward Heath", "preceding_text": "According to the announcement of this week's business, today was to have been the second day of a foreign affairs debate in which we should have reviewed the world situation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1882.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1882.4", "colnum": "1882", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "If the hon. Gentleman looks at the list of economic measures, he will find that to be true. Any further step, therefore, can be only the use of force, which is abhorrent to us on this side of the House and, I believe, to many hon. Members in all parts of the House.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1882.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1882.4", "colnum": "1882", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "t, for their part, quite rightly have placed their own Amendment to that Motion on the Order Paper. This Amendment illustrates the difference which now, alas, exists between the Government and the Opposition, because the Amendment calls on the House to support the Government \"in all measures\", without qualification, which must, of course, include the use of British forces as the Government decide—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1882.4"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1883.1", "colnum": "1883", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "me Minister has himself spoken of such intimidation. There is a task to be done here as well, and I believe that it is right to speak of the Rhodesian people as a whole, of all races. I want now to speak of the difference of objective which seems to be appearing between the two sides of the House. In the Prime Minister's statement of 10th December I believe that he moved into a dangerous position.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1883.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1883.1", "colnum": "1883", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "onwealth Secretary's remarks, but he did not do so. He went back on both statements, and, indeed, went much further than the Commonwealth Secretary, for he said: We cannot negotiate with these men, nor can they be trusted, after the return to constitutional rule, with the task of leading Rhodesia in the paths of freedom and racial harmony.\"—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 10th December, 1965; Vol. 722, c. 771.]", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1883.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1883.1", "colnum": "1883", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "tatement qualifying the arrangements he is prepared to make to reach a solution. I will express our anxieties very clearly on this point to the Prime Minister. What he has done in this way is to commit all his personal prestige and the prestige of the Government as a whole, to use the current phrase of some hon. Members opposite, to toppling the Smith régime, and there lies the real danger—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1883.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1883.1", "colnum": "1883", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": " our anxieties very clearly on this point to the Prime Minister. What he has done in this way is to commit all his personal prestige and the prestige of the Government as a whole, to use the current phrase of some hon. Members opposite, to toppling the Smith régime, and there lies the real danger—[ Interruption. ] Yes, and for this reason. The Prime Minister will be under constant pressure—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1883.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1887.1", "colnum": "1887", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "st tell him that we on this side are determined to do all we can to prevent actions by the Government being determined by questions of personalities rather than by policies which we believe to be wise. I wish now to turn to the methods that have so far been used to bring about the return to legality. They are economic and financial. We have supported these measures which the Government have taken—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1887.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1887.1", "colnum": "1887", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "his, also; that in the timing of some of the measures he has taken in the economic field particularly—not the first batch, but the second batch, and, again, those in Washington last Friday—he has given the impression that he has succumbed to the heavy pressures to which he has been subjected, and this can only raise further anxieties about the pressures to which he will be subjected in the future.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1887.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1887.1", "colnum": "1887", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ed in which the economy or law and order is reduced to chaos, or to anything near it. The effects of these economic measures are bound to take time, and I would emphasise again to the Prime Minister that it is essential that there should be discussions in Rhodesia before there is any question of wrecking the economy, or of law and order breaking down. The third and deep anxiety is that this Order—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1887.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1887.1", "colnum": "1887", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ntial that there should be discussions in Rhodesia before there is any question of wrecking the economy, or of law and order breaking down. The third and deep anxiety is that this Order—[ Interruption. ] I have already said that it is essential that the Government should find means of keeping the channels of communication open either with the régime or with anyone outside the régime—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1887.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1890.1", "colnum": "1890", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Sit down.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Sydney Silverman", "preceding_text": "Mr. Sydney Silverman (Nelson and Colne) rose —", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1890.0"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1891.2", "colnum": "1891", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Answer.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "The Prime Minister has never been prepared to give the assurance in the House that the other means, which he has mentioned, and which he mentioned in his same statement, would be used but not a limited operation.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1891.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1893.1", "colnum": "1893", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Order.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Force against whom?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1893.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1893.6", "colnum": "1893", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"They have\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Heath", "preceding_text": "ed not be so. If the Government's purpose is working out and people are changing their minds and attitudes, then surely there is a possibility that this situation, too, will change, even if it has not done so already. What is necessary is that the Government's own proposals should be spelled out clearly. If they believe that amendments are necessary to the 1961 Constitution, let them specify them.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1893.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1898.1", "colnum": "1898", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "s was well within his rights, to devote the whole of his speech to Rhodesia. I shall come to those points later. At this stage, I say only that it seemed to me that his speech was more concerned with the passions behind him than with the problems in front of him. I sometimes wish that the right hon. Gentleman would look at the problem which we face in Rhodesia as what it is, a grave moral problem—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1898.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1898.1", "colnum": "1898", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Cheap.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "that he can deal with the whole thing as though it were a point of order at the Tory Party conference or a meeting of the 1922 Committee. However, I was glad of one thing he said more than once, when he expressed his utter repugnance to the use of force at all for settling disputes of this kind. I agree with him. That was the Chief Whip at the time of Suez who used his very considerable expertise—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1898.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1898.1", "colnum": "1898", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister (Mr. Harold Wilson)", "preceding_text": "ing willingness on the part of others who are fighting in Vietnam. I shall not weary the House with the whole record of instances—the resolution of the 17 uncommitted nations, the Gordon Walker mission, the proposed U Thant mission, the proposed Commonwealth Peace Mission, the visit of my hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance and the rest.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1898.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1909.2", "colnum": "1909", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"Such as?\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " the brisk, crisp, comradely and fruitful nature of our discussions on every single point which we covered. I doubt whether relations between our two countries have been closer and more frank and marked by clearer understanding, even when we did not agree—and, of course, there are important issues on which it is well known that we do not agree than probably at any time since the Second World War.—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1909.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1909.2", "colnum": "1909", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " basis for unity and agreement on the Rhodesian question. The right hon. Gentleman has anxieties, and I am going to deal with these later. I understand them, and I understand his feelings about them. I think that he is wrong to take them as the basis for the kind of speech he made and the kind of action he is taking, but I understand his difficulty. He has been through an extremely difficult time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1909.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1909.2", "colnum": "1909", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I said it in Rhodesia before the illegal declaration. I said it to Mr. Smith, although there were some who felt that I had weakened our position by doing so, and that I ought to have said that we were prepared to use military force, or to have left him in doubt. I know that many people thought this, particularly in Africa. Because I thought it right to be utterly frank on this, as on other things—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1909.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1909.2", "colnum": "1909", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " if my predecessors had been as frank with him as we had—these were his words—then this problem would not have been left to us. I will stand by what I said to him on that occasion and I have said this before. I said that my immediate predecessor had been as completely frank on this issue as I had. It is all on the record. He was as frank on that occasion as I have been. There may have been others—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1909.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1916.0", "colnum": "1916", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "I was going to come to the Beira problem. I hope that the right hon. Gentleman will allow me to deal with it in my own way.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1916.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1916.0", "colnum": "1916", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " it in my own way. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"] I intend to deal with it. But the right hon. Gentleman must recognise that at this point in my remarks I was speaking about those who had advocated the use of military force for unseating the illegal Government in Rhodesia. That is not what we are talking about. The question of any form of force to make the oil sanction more effective is entirely different.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1916.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1917.1", "colnum": "1917", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "he Cape to Beira for putting through the pipeline. I said yesterday that if that happens we shall have to consider this problem. There is more than one way of dealing with it. We might take legal action, for example, to close the pipeline. I hope that this is a way in which we could do it, by making it illegal for that pipeline to be used as far as it is on Rhodesian soil. That is one possibility.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1917.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1920.0", "colnum": "1920", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member has tried this before from the back benches. He is deluding himself. He can go to the United Nations and do his legal hairsplitting there. He would have a pretty thin time.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1920.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1920.2", "colnum": "1920", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "The Prime Minister", "preceding_text": " right hon. and hon. Members opposite take the view that we would not do anything in the Kariban situation if that power were cut off. They are the great believers in the deterrent, but the deterrent must be credible. That is why their deterrent never was. This is a deterrent. That was why the right hon. Gentleman was never himself a credible independent deterrent. That is why nobody believed him.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1920.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1989.1", "colnum": "1989", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "An HON. MEMBER: \"What about the Africans?\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "is, at what price? The bitterness and the hate and the defiance already engendered in Rhodesia passes belief. The Prime Minister must do more than add up the statistics and hope for a quick kill. It is the duty of a statesman to sense the spirit and heart of a people and to know what happens if that heart is broken. If the heart of the people of Rhodesia is broken, then what will happen in Africa?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1989.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1989.1", "colnum": "1989", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": " Government may make for the future Constitution of Rhodesia for a certainty that the Africans will have majority rule in the country. The wrong way to deal with the Africans is to tag along behind those extremists who want force. When force is demanded, as it certainly will be, what I am afraid of is that the British Government will then be able to find no logical reason for resisting it because—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1989.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1993.2", "colnum": "1993", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "The Prime Minister has made one speech—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1993.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1997.2", "colnum": "1997", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "Smith—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1997.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1997.6", "colnum": "1997", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "I want to conclude. I was saying that in this matter the question of the oil Order which follows is naturally very much in our minds, and in a crisis of international proportions each of us must think with great care before he acts. I can give only my own conclusion after the debate. The Prime Minister was, we thought, asking for a blank cheque on the use of force.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1997.6"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1998.3", "colnum": "1998", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "I am asking the right hon. Gentleman to do what the House wants for one moment, and that is to allow me to conclude my speech. I am saying that it would be easy to vote against oil sanctions. I think that the Government's policies have been ill-conceived, but I want to make sure that the message which goes out from this House tonight, and in particular from these benches—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1998.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1998.3", "colnum": "1998", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Sir A. Douglas-Home", "preceding_text": "t oil sanctions. I think that the Government's policies have been ill-conceived, but I want to make sure that the message which goes out from this House tonight, and in particular from these benches—[ Interruption. ]—the Prime Minister is behaving like a schoolboy who is unable to contain himself. Neither the right hon. Member for Easington (Mr. Shinwell), nor the mutterings of the Prime Minister—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.1998.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2012.0", "colnum": "2012", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "selves. But do not let us go too far against people of our own race, our own kith.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2012.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2012.2", "colnum": "2012", "heading": "FOREIGN AFFAIRS", "cue_speaker": "", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh.\"", "preceding_speaker": "", "preceding_text": "In the vote which I hope we shall have in a minute or two—and I assure the Chief Whip that I shall sit down in 90 seconds—we shall be saying, \"We will support you in the action you have taken but do not during the Recess try to go galloping on in matters which may lead to somebody, whoever it may be, shooting and leading to trouble.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2012.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2024.1", "colnum": "2024", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Give way.\"", "preceding_speaker": "The Attorney-General", "preceding_text": "No, I cannot give way; I must continue.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2024.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2030.1", "colnum": "2030", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "cue_text": "AN HON. MEMBER: Who are the patriots now?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. E. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "hat several hon. Members on the other side of the House are revolting against their leaders. This breaks my heart. Of course, I am sorely tempted to encourage them: the Labour Party will gain considerably from a split in the Tory ranks. But I beg them not to revolt against their leaders. We have to weigh the political advantage which may accrue to the Labour Party—and there may be a snap election—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2030.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2032.1", "colnum": "2032", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I believe that it is a good Order.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2032.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2032.1", "colnum": "2032", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Shinwell", "preceding_text": "I believe that it is a good Order. [ Interruption. ] What is wrong with hon. Gentlemen opposite? Why can I see one of them glaring at me so? I assure him that I am not troubled by the severity of the look he is giving me. His judgment is very faulty and defective.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2032.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2036.1", "colnum": "2036", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Dr. Miller", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Oh\".", "preceding_speaker": "Dr. Miller", "preceding_text": "I appreciate that, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and I shall try to confine my observations to this particular sanction. We must apply the oil embargo, and we must apply it forcibly—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2036.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2036.3", "colnum": "2036", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Lieutenant-Commander S. L. C. Maydon", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Lieutenant-Commander S. L. C. Maydon", "preceding_text": "The hon. Member for Glasgow, Kelvingrove (Dr. Miller) talked about giving the Africans something. He seems to have failed to realise that the imposition of sanctions in general, and this sanction in particular, will remove from many hundreds of thousands of Africans something which to them is probably the most valuable thing in their lives—stable employment on good wages.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2036.3"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2039.0", "colnum": "2039", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": "ouglas-Home) said that he would, too. What we have is a straightforward rebellion against the Front Bench on the U.D.I., and what the House as a whole objects to is the cowardice of the Tory Front Bench in having given as its only advice in the matter of this most serious of sanctions that hon. Members should abstain from voting. What is the country at large to make of such a piece of manoeuvring—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2039.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2040.1", "colnum": "2040", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Richard", "preceding_text": "frican Nationalist Party in Rhodesia are opposed to the imposition of this oil embargo? I have seen no such information in the Press. If any right hon. or hon. Gentleman can give me that information I will willingly give way to him. The hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) was at least honest when he said that the basis of his opposition to the Order was that he did not trust the Prime Minister.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2040.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2047.1", "colnum": "2047", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "preceding_text": "and learned Member for Hertfordshire, East (Sir D. Walker-Smith), who said that failure of sanctions might involve resort to force by the use of a blockade. That is perfectly true, but the resort to force by the use of a blockade will be a much less harmful alternative to the people of Rhodesia and the people of Africa as a whole than the resort to force by other Powers in the continent of Africa—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2047.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2047.1", "colnum": "2047", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Eric Lubbock", "preceding_text": "rice (Mr. Wall) may not agree with what I have to say, but I hope that he will listen to me with the same respect that I listened to him. Not all Conservatives follow the line which has been expressed this evening. I am very pleased that that is so and that there is a cross-current of opinion which makes this a non-political matter. I would like to treat it as such, if I may be permitted to do so—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2047.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2053.0", "colnum": "2053", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Braine", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Braine", "preceding_text": "There is one question which has not been asked tonight and which, so far, has not been answered.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2053.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2054.1", "colnum": "2054", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "Certainly calculations have been made. Her Majesty's Government would not enter into a commitment of this kind without having made careful calculations.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2054.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-21", "file": "debates1965-12-21a.xml", "sha256": "6119b4bab6f137f7", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2054.1", "colnum": "2054", "heading": "RHODESIA (OIL EMBARGO)", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "cue_text": "Interruption.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Hughes", "preceding_text": "Certainly calculations have been made. Her Majesty's Government would not enter into a commitment of this kind without having made careful calculations. [HON. MEMBERS: \"Answer.\"] This is a phased operation. As I have tried to explain—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-21a.2054.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-22", "file": "debates1965-12-22a.xml", "sha256": "6e8388bff5a7cf84", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2101.2", "colnum": "2101", "heading": "Oral Answers to Questions — MINISTRY OF DEFENCE", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "Oh.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Raphael Tuck", "preceding_text": " my hon. Friend think that if that is the policy of the War Office it is about time that it was changed in cases where the Department itself is responsible for the man's death, since it happened because of negligence? Would he not agree with me that what was done only serves to dig the knife more deeply into the wounds of the afflicted parents, and that the whole thing is an absolute damn scandal?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2101.1"}
{"kind": "attributed_speech", "date": "1965-12-22", "file": "debates1965-12-22a.xml", "sha256": "6e8388bff5a7cf84", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2102.2", "colnum": "2102", "heading": "FAIRFIELDS SHIPYARD", "cue_speaker": "Hon. Members", "cue_text": "What is it?", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Rankin", "preceding_text": "Would my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs care to answer the Question of which I have given him Private Notice?", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2102.1"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-22", "file": "debates1965-12-22a.xml", "sha256": "6e8388bff5a7cf84", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2103.2", "colnum": "2103", "heading": "FAIRFIELDS SHIPYARD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Hear, hear.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "report of the Geddes Committee in February, and whilst obviously any attempt to get rid of restrictive practices and to bring in the unions is welcome to us, I believe that the whole country will see the method now selected by the First Secretary as being only the beginning of an extension of nationalisation into the private sector, precisely on the lines laid down in \"Signposts for the 'Sixties\".", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2103.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-22", "file": "debates1965-12-22a.xml", "sha256": "6e8388bff5a7cf84", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2103.2", "colnum": "2103", "heading": "FAIRFIELDS SHIPYARD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"No.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Barber", "preceding_text": "te. Will the right hon. Gentleman tell us why he has completely reversed the policy of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who now, significantly, seems to have been pushed completely out of the picture and who only a month ago announced to the House a holding operation which involved the provision of loan capital without the slightest hint that the Government might provide equity capital? May I ask—", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2103.2"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-22", "file": "debates1965-12-22a.xml", "sha256": "6e8388bff5a7cf84", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2106.0", "colnum": "2106", "heading": "FAIRFIELDS SHIPYARD", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "cue_text": "Laughter.", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Brown", "preceding_text": "As regards decision-making, questions of company policy and actions will be controlled by the new board when it is established. We are now discussing with the partners the composition of that board and the details, and no one is going into this with any intention of trying to dominate others.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2106.0"}
{"kind": "bracketed_cue", "date": "1965-12-22", "file": "debates1965-12-22a.xml", "sha256": "6e8388bff5a7cf84", "speech_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2159.0", "colnum": "2159", "heading": "ANTI-SUBMARINE TRAINING SCHOOL, LONDONDERRY", "cue_speaker": "Mr. Mayhew", "cue_text": "HON. MEMBERS: \"Of course.\"", "preceding_speaker": "Mr. Mayhew", "preceding_text": "t his regional policy had been 100 per cent. successful so far, but no previous Government have done half as much as he has in this business of regional planning. I find extremely striking the figures quoted by the Home Secretary in the last debate about the bringing of new industry to Northern Ireland and the fact that at that time there were more men in jobs in Northern Ireland than ever before.", "preceding_id": "uk.org.publicwhip/debate/1965-12-22a.2159.0"}